NationStates Jolt Archive

It is 2006. Tensions between Israel and Iran escalate until Iran declares war on Israel. The United States, backing up Israel, declares war on Iran. Threats of nuclear weapons are being thrown around, but will it happen?

You can control any of these countries(and others if I miss them):
The United States of America: Blaglug
The United Kingdoms: Kulikovo
France: Ravea
Germany: Zukariaa
Spain: Los Mexico
Russia: Palixia
Iran: Quaon
Israel: Cravan
Afghanistan
Iraq
China: Dongara
Japan: Khurgan
North Korea: Socialist Intellectuals
South Korea
Canada: Pythogria
Mexico
Norway: Markiria
Sweden
Finland
Romania
Italy
Greece: Freising
Australia: San Haven
India: Chellis
Pakistan
Indonesia: Capitalist Free States
Polestine
Thailand: 23Eris
Lebannon: Geneticon
Ireland: Drexel HillsVille

And more!

You cannot use your NationStates country. Things would get messy.

Current Map:
http://www.maj.com/gallery/ZukaZuka99/NS-Maps-And-Stuff/wwiii_map.png

Alliances:
The Freedom Alliance
USA, Germany, Israel, Chad, Kenya, Ethiopia, Egypt, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Lebennon, Turkey, Ottoman, Australia, New Zealand, Canada

Allied With The US
Chad, Kenya, Ethiopia, Egypt, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Lebennon, Turkey, Ottoman, Australia, New Zealand, Canada

Iran Allied
Libya, Yemen, Sudan, Solmalia, Tunisia, Syria

Destroyed Countries:

USA is me.

China for me.

I'll take France.

The UK for me, chaps

The Union of Sovi---erm... The Russian Federation...

and if possible I'd like to be a Mod, and I'll do the maps...

OOC-You guys can get started anytime. :P

[German Leadership]
We Support the US in this conflict. We will support them however they need.

Alliance?

******
Sure, you can mod and do maps.

Zukariaa']OOC-You guys can get started anytime. :P

[German Leadership]
We Support the US in this conflict. We will support them however they need.

Alliance?

To German Government

The United States would accept an alliance with Germany.

Signed,
President George W. Bush

[German Leadership]
We thought so. Call on us whenever you need help!

OOC-What shall we call it?

Zukariaa'][German Leadership]
We thought so. Call on us whenever you need help!

OOC-What shall we call it?

To German Government

We appreciate your assistance.

Signed,
President Geoerge W. Bush

OOC: Perhaps the Freedom Alliance?

(OOC:Shouldn't you make this the OOC section, and you can make a seperate IC section?

OOC-Sure. Added it to the Alliance list.

(OOC:Shouldn't you make this the OOC section, and you can make a seperate IC section?
Doesn't really matter. If everyone else wants it, than sure.

OOC: Can I do Sweden?

OOC-Of course.

-Bumptastic-

I think I may join in as Israel, merely because I adore their tanks. *drools at picture of Merkava* So, yeah, put me down for Israel.

I think I may join in as Israel, merely because I adore their tanks. *drools at picture of Merkava* So, yeah, put me down for Israel.

Ah! Forum AND Alternate History RP ally!

Ah! Forum AND Alternate History RP ally!

Hells yeah!

Might as well add you to the Freedom Alliance. :P

Zukariaa']Might as well add you to the Freedom Alliance. :P

I was gonna ask anyway, Zuk. :p

Should I post a seperate thread for the actual war, or is it fine in here?

Zukariaa']Should I post a seperate thread for the actual war, or is it fine in here?

Seperate thread, I say!

Seperate thread, I say!

Ay, seperate thread!

Hmm, Ninjas... So uh.. Indonesia If that's alright.

Indonesia will remain neutral in this conflict, however, we will remain opento trade with both parties for the time being.

I'll take good ol india, if nobody minds.

Can I be Iran? I'd like to play as a nutcase! :D

Since Iran is taken (Damn it!) I would like North Korea please..


Mohahahahahaha!

I'll be Canada.

*Kicks Pythag for being the USA*

You'd better be American. Else, I'll vote you out.


'Cause you know. I have to have an American as America.

I'll be Canada.

*Kicks Pythag for being the USA*

You'd better be American. Else, I'll vote you out.


'Cause you know. I have to have an American as America.

Pyth is Canadian.

*cough*
...Too many.. people.. O_O

you should also add to the Alliance all nations that are allied with the USA.


NATO, AUSNZ, blah blah blah blah.

So yeah, put me down in the "Freedom Alliance"

BTW, I think you should call it just the Alliance because lets be honest....the USA side is always called "the Allies"


Also: A note for correct alignment (I've already basically thought the whole war through my mind before.)

Libya = Iran Allied
Yemen = Iran Allied
NKorea = Iran Allied
Sudan = Iran Allied
Chad = USA Allied (most occupied by Sudan)
Kenya = USA Allied
Solmalia = Iran Allied
Ethiopia = USA Allied
Egypt = USA Allied (yes! really!)
That A nation next to Libya = USA Allied (through France)
That T nation next to Libya = Iran Allied
Saudi Arabia = USA Allied
Lebennon = USA Allied (YES! They switched sides recently!)
Syria = Iran Allied
Turkey = USA Allied
A few nations in that region that I will post on later after I find my paper that shows nations that are allied with who.
Ottoman = USA Allied
UAE = I think Iran (I'll check back with you.)
Cuba = Iran Allied (through NK)

Umm...the usual Allies are all together.

NATO = USA Allied
Australia = USA Allied
New Zeland = USA Allied
Canada = USA Allied.

Pythag (Yes I call you that)

I'll switch nations with you.

Damn it USA has to be run by an Americam (ie Myself) because it just makes sense and I don't want some outsider thinking the USA is weak.

Pythag (Yes I call you that)

I'll switch nations with you.

Damn it USA has to be run by an Americam (ie Myself) because it just makes sense and I don't want some outsider thinking the USA is weak.

Fine, switch.

Algeria and Tunisia are the two unnamed nations you're missing...(the "T" and "A" nation on the list).

Ja! Im Norway.
To the United States Goverment.
We will back you up until Terhan has fallen from their we will then bomb Syria,North Korea and that stupid country in South America. Also we demand that the leader of Iran be shot or killed ASAP. If the United States and other nations fail too agree with these terms we will not be part of this war. We will also cut off all supplys to You, And we will shut down our embssay in Washington D,C.
____________________________________________________
To the Canadian Goverment,
We will not be in a War with you in it. You have shown to be a nitch to us, You critizens and profit off of the U.S. When your Political Party uses it as a way to get votes. You are cripple anyway so you need to go back home and go bow down to Your POT LEAVE FLAG!
_______________________________________________________

To Iranian Goverment,
Soon your country will fall in flames. I advise you that you surrender to the West or pay the price. We have Norwegian spys in Iran waiting to set bombs at your radio and news stations in Tehran. Since your news media comes 99.9%out of Terhan we have used those as targets to cripple your society. You have 1 week to report to the World and Surrender!

uh-huh...whatever you say...Canada and the US are close allies, btw Markiria...

Norway. You really have no choice because of NATO.

I'm sorry but that's just how the world is....unless you no longer want to be in NATO.

Will no one inquire of the Indonesians?

NKorea = Iran Allied

North Korea has desided to be neutral for now, read my post in the war thread..
Never take things for granted!


(oh, and Norway has gone mad. I knew I should have controlled them.. :p )

I am finding Region maps on the CIA Worldfactbook.

That map is out dated and deosn't show enough detail. :)

I think Norway has gone mad! Its getting a little arrogant. Whatever, its an ally for us. :P

-bumptastico!!-

New map. Thank you, Blaglug.

Np.

Hmm....things are going well...

Which things?

I wish to take Spain! Is it taken?

I'll take Australia! I will take the Howard Governent into war allied with the US & its allies!

You got it.

So when exactly are we going to start the actual RPing stage of this?

It is started, right now the world leaders are yelling at each other. :p

To the World Goverments
Norway is no longer in NATO. We are going to fight this war are way no matter what the world says. If any nations attack Norway. We will invade Denmark, We have a vision of Norwegians finally being heard throughtout the world, We will rule and Destroy Iran, We are also going to bomb North Korea, Spain has no right to join this war. This war isnt for quitters unlike some nations I know. Also we have sent spy's into Iran to bomb Iranian Facilitys and we are also going to Destroy buildings that post anti-america photos, Their media is going to be targeted too. Most of Irans leaders and Media are their. Once we destroy it Terhan will be no more, The Un or any other nations is going to stop us, Any nation who opposes will be targeted next. We are now sending forces into Syria to occupy the region until further notic!
LONG LIVE NORWAY!

{I am making this up just for fun. I dont mean ANY of what is typed above, It just brings more flava to the game and triggers the War!

To the Spanish Goverment,
You have no right to join this war. You have shown to be a weak nation, I have seen in Norway that Spain was bombed and then pulled out of the War on Terror, That is stupid. If your nation joins WW3 I will send f2 bobmers to destroy Madrid. Your nation is pittyfull and has no right to live. I will also destroy Portugal by Sanctions witch will cripple its economy, To you spain let this be a Warning. You do not want Madrid to fall do you?

LONG LIVE NORWAY!

This is the OOC thread...

And not only that, this wouldn't be called WWIII, deffinatly not yet. This is still considered the War on Terror.

And seriously, you're going to get bombed if you keep that up.

Now go repost that in the IC thread.

I wonder if France went to war, what would happen..hmm...

@Norway

Stop being a complete and total ass.

Remember. I pwn the world. So stop being dumb. What you are saying would never happen. Norway = NATO Spain = NATO

Thus Norway doesn't fuck with Spain, else I'll have to get involved.

I rofl at the thought of Sweden in a war.

Sweden has a pretty good military though. Some nice equipment too.

Hey Zukariaa, if its possible, could I be Thailand? US Allied

I'll play Lebanon... if this actually happens.

Added you both to the list.

Ill take Greece

It is very confusing not know who is allied to who, and seeing as how some people have decided to mix up the natural order of things....

Everyone reply with this:

[Nation]: [Alliance or Neutral]

For now the Alliances are:

Freedom Alliance (USA-Isreal)
Liberation Alliance (Iran and Allies)


So, to start things off:

USA: Freedom Alliance.

Germany, of course!

Thailand: US aligned, but neutral for the moment

I wonder if France went to war, what would happen..hmm...

It would kick ass, thats what would happen, unless it was against russia, usa, or uk(very close here).

Anyways, India, neutral to a point.

It would kick ass, thats what would happen, unless it was against russia, usa, or uk(very close here).

Anyways, India, neutral to a point.

Or Germany - I think it's standard that Germany gives France a royal ass kicking every century or so.


As for the alignment of my country... Greece will be non-aligned to start with.

I'd be interested in claiming Japan. Just one question: how PMT will this be? Start from modern day and go from there with some predetermined calendar system?

Either way, I still want US-allied Japan...

I would be interested in playing a nuetral Ireland...

I had meant to put MT on it. :D

North Korea - Nuetral to a point, and always against the whestern countries, and seriously considering teatching norway a lesson (you know we have the third biggest army in the world, don't you Norway..)

North Korea - Nuetral to a point, and always against the whestern countries, and seriously considering teatching norway a lesson (you know we have the third biggest army in the world, don't you Norway..)

And your entire army is made up of undertrained, illequipped, fanatical peasants. :rolleyes:

Hmm, lets see.. China, the USA, Russia.. Those are all bigger, right?

Zukariaa']Hmm, lets see.. China, the USA, Russia.. Those are all bigger, right?

Well, I actually would believe PRK is up there with its conscription rate. Since the economy is already imploded, there are alot of soldiers in the PRK military. Russia's military is in a failing state, US does not have forced conscrtiption, and China........ nevermind.

What is PRK?
The US had better not have a conscription. The prisons would fill too fast. :P

Peoples Republic of Korea. The official designation.

I knew that.

Korea's economy is imploded?

And your entire army is made up of undertrained, illequipped, fanatical peasants. :rolleyes:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/army.htm

Not really

From Wikipedia:
North Korea has previously received international food and fuel aid from China, South Korea, and the United States in exchange for promises not to develop nuclear weapons. In June 2005, the U.S. announced that it would give 50,000 metric tons of food aid to North Korea. The United States gave North Korea 50,000 tons in 2004 and 100,000 tons in 2003. On 19 September 2005, North Korea was promised food and fuel aid (among other things) from South Korea, the U.S., Japan, Russia, and China in exchange for abandoning its nuclear weapons program and rejoining the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Moreover, there have been few economic improvements since 1999. According to the Ministry of Unification of South Korea, the GDP grew by 6.2% in 1999, 1.3% in 2000, 3.2 % in 2001, 1.2% in 2002 and 1.8 % in 2003. Similar figures have been projected for 2004 and 2005.

And a link to American Forces estimation of North Korea Military:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2003/n11182003_200311181.html

As of 2005, the government is estimated to have spent around 25% of the nation's GDP on the military (compared with 2.5% for neighboring South Korea)

Oh, and it is the fourth largest, not third, sorry..

China: Non-Aligned

I don't think it's a very good idea to use the PLA proactively. The PLA is imagined to be this massive wave of soldiers, when in fact, it's not that large. The actual ARMY of China (as in infantry guys), is only 1.6 million people, not much larger than the U.S.A. The U.S.A. has a much larger amount of it's population in the army than China does, and most of China's army...was not built for combat...:D

Or Germany - I think it's standard that Germany gives France a royal ass kicking every century or so.


As for the alignment of my country... Greece will be non-aligned to start with.

A standard that started, after the french were kicking german ass from roman times to napoleonic times.

I've gone over this, though. Germany simply doesn't have the airforce, nor airforce manufacturing ability, to wage successful war against France. Not only does France have a higher trained airforce easily, it has woeful fighters(the Tornado is more of a bomber than a fighter, and they don't even have the air defense variant, while they rely on F-4F's and, at most, a dozen or so typhoons), and France has signifigant force multipliers, such as independant AWACS, etc.

Germany would quickly lose the air war, and then its superior ground forces would be subject to constant bombing by one of the most advanced airforces in the world.

BTW, Iran, if you just leave the IAEA and NPT, the international community has no right to search your country, or even request it.

Err... anglad...

1. The US only has one squadren of raptors operational as of 2006. Unless you are giving your only squadren to israel, where they would have to completely teach the pilots how to use it, and modify it to use israeli weapons, etc, what you are doing is impossible.

2. Raptors, nor F-15's, can reach Iran from CONUS, without multiple refueling over land and sea(Probably 5 or more, easy). Take out Iran's air defense with HARMS from Superhornets, then use the heavy bombers, with superhornets providing air defense. Its just unrealistic to bring any signifigant number of fighters all the way to Iran, when so many refuelings are nessecary.

3. The F-14's have been officially retired. Just as well, Iran has them too, you might get into some confusing incidents if you use them as well.

1) There are other squadrons out there that are "not operational."
a) this war takes place a little after 2006.

2) I know. KC-130

3) Not in my book. The F-14 was an amazing fighter, and seeing as how I'm using the later modles (D and The supertomcat E)

Anymore questions on what I am doing?

The F/A-18 can't perform all the duties that need to be covered in a (classified) nuclear mission.

I'll take the RoK, if no one minds. (That's South Korea.)

1) There are other squadrons out there that are "not operational."
a) this war takes place a little after 2006.

2) I know. KC-130

3) Not in my book. The F-14 was an amazing fighter, and seeing as how I'm using the later modles (D and The supertomcat E)

Anymore questions on what I am doing?

The F/A-18 can't perform all the duties that need to be covered in a (classified) nuclear mission.

1. Yes, and they aren't going to be ready anytime soon. Go ahead and ship them to israel, it won't be flying them for at least two years. You might have a second squadren of raptors yourself, if its set in mid-07

2. Thats great. I hope you don't expect to refuel 60+ Aircraft 5 or more times every sortie, or you will quickly make this the most expensive military attack in history.

3. The F-14 was being downed by Mirage F-1's, a 3rd generation fighter, during the Iraq-Iran war. Its combat experience has not been positive. Regardless, the US retired the aircraft. They aren't being used. Most carriers don't have them on the ships at all anymore, and the ones that still have them there, have them not at operational status.

F-18E/F's can do everything but use the actual nuclear weapops, afaik. Its your most capable plane atm, with LO, AESA, great bombing ability, and great fighting ability.

I'll take the RoK, if no one minds. (That's South Korea.)

No one objects, thus I'll begin posting as South Korea.

When does the War start, Norway has bombs amming towards Iran and we are getting tired!

I will start it! Norway has launched bombs at Terhan and Iranian Ports:sniper:

I think it's dead... I know I don't really have time for it so if you do continue just think Iran nuked the fuck out of Israel.

*hiss*
Then Norway invaded Iran killed the leader and head cheifs and claimed Iran as a state of theirs. Then we poured millions of pounds of salt to make it so nothing grows their. Now Persia is gone and Norway is a bigger and wealthy,stronger country. Just remeber norway has nukes now!!!!!



Cuba,Veni,North Korea, Syria are all next!

We didn't ever get anywhere. It doesn't matter anymore.