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OOC: I want an MT war.

Jenrak
28-04-2006, 21:19
Anybody want to invade me? My MT military is rebuilt, improved from my short involvement in Jagada, and I'm willing to fight with anybody that has a good idea to incite a war.

I enslave people (excessively).

I use chemical and biological weaponry.

I'm a religious fanaticist.

I'm a corporate capitalist.

There's alot more reasons.

I use very unorthodox tactics. So you might find me making wierd strategic moves in a war.

I'm going to work. When I be back, if there's a response to this, I'll be happy.
Khurgan
28-04-2006, 21:22
*Sigh* I want a decent war, but none of your reasons work for me (I do all but the third, and I couldn't give a crap about religious fanatics). Of course, we are direct competitors...
Czardas
28-04-2006, 21:24
I might with my Krazy Kommie (tm) puppet, Devlyn, as Czardas is involved in tons of RPs right now and tied up with a postwar economy.
Amazonian Beasts
28-04-2006, 22:24
Gladly I'll invade, but I'll have to base it off the religious aspect, since I practice all the others in my nation...
Spit break
28-04-2006, 22:41
to easy of a job ill join in and support AB
Willink
28-04-2006, 22:49
Im up for it.
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 00:42
to easy of a job ill join in and support AB

You sorely underestimate MT Jenrak.

A note, if you're going to RP, Spit Break, I expect more than one line posts and less than average RPing, no offence.

Amazonian Beasts, if possible, you can make the starting thread.

Though I suggest anybody willing to fight me take a read on my factbook to gain some info on how my military works.
Spit break
29-04-2006, 00:43
as do you under estimate the power of the allies
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 00:46
as do you under estimate the power of the allies

I don't think I do.
Spit break
29-04-2006, 00:47
then you know your doomed
Velkya
29-04-2006, 00:51
No need to be bitter, guys.
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 00:51
then you know your doomed

I admit, I don't know much about FT technology, but trust me - this is going to be pure MT. I know much more about MT tech than FT tech, and believe me, you'll be fighting not only my military (which thrives off war), but also in a climate that pushes invaders to sea.

For example, my climate alone drove Kahanistan's intervention back, not my military. My forces didn't even arrive there to touch his troops.
Pythogria
29-04-2006, 00:51
then you know your doomed

Actually, I probably won't help you.
Spit break
29-04-2006, 00:52
Actually, I probably won't help you.
when you come into this am talking about me AB and others
Pythogria
29-04-2006, 00:53
when you come into this am talking about me AB and others

They wouldn't help either.
Spit break
29-04-2006, 00:55
w/e ill play this by ear
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 00:58
I can make it, but if you want it up fast, then I'm probaly not the guy to look at...I'm in the process of making a quite lengthy FT reference thread that will take a long time. If anyone else wants to, than that's cool, and I'll find somewhere to jump in.
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 01:00
I can make it, but if you want it up fast, then I'm probaly not the guy to look at...I'm in the process of making a quite lengthy FT reference thread that will take a long time. If anyone else wants to, than that's cool, and I'll find somewhere to jump in.

No problem.

Anybody want to start it?
Spit break
29-04-2006, 01:02
na i got a curse if i start it then it will die lol
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 01:09
I'd like to get involved i've just done my military (my army is mainly done (i'm just making sure about my anti tank/anti air weapons) and my airforce is done on combat aircraft (but no helicopters/transport/tankers decided on yet)).

i'm only 400 and something million so if you guys are much bigger (I've tried going to your ns page from clicking on your names on here but it just says done with errors on page (dam uni system) but doesn't show anything)
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 01:11
I'd like to get involved i've just done my military (my army is mainly done (i'm just making sure about my anti tank/anti air weapons) and my airforce is done on combat aircraft (but no helicopters/transport/tankers decided on yet)).

i'm only 400 and something million so if you guys are much bigger (I've tried going to your ns page from clicking on your names on here but it just says done with errors on page (dam uni system) but doesn't show anything)

I am 3 point something billion.
Spit break
29-04-2006, 01:17
Population 644,000,000

Defence: $427,752,401,940.86

troops: 322,000,000
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 01:22
your troops are 50% of your pop??!?!
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 01:23
are you?

don't worry i'm not a prat who will say "lolz my army is teh uber I beat you noob!!!" as i've had idiots do that to me before who decide that their army will just be unfeasable and do stupid things (like they forgot that they have to supply them or pay them....) and thats no fun for anybody

my armed forces are going to be about 1.5 million when finished (at least till I pass the billion mark) but at the moment with a major change in equipment most of them will be retraining so i'll have much less to call on

just a thought though if your on 3.? million as a population does this mean you've reduced your population?
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 01:23
your troops are 50% of your pop??!?!

It's called Militia.
Pythogria
29-04-2006, 01:24
are you?

don't worry i'm not a prat who will say "lolz my army is teh uber I beat you noob!!!" as i've had idiots do that to me before who decide that their army will just be unfeasable and do stupid things (like they forgot that they have to supply them or pay them....) and thats no fun for anybody

my armed forces are going to be about 1.5 million when finished (at least till I pass the billion mark) but at the moment with a major change in equipment most of them will be retraining so i'll have much less to call on

just a thought though if your on 3.? million as a population does this mean you've reduced your population?

He meant billion.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 01:24
oops miss read it there (sorry its 1:30 am here and i'm running on caffine and sugar (hmmm sugar) at least till the people I share halls with shut up (I hate fridays...))
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 01:26
oops miss read it there (sorry its 1:30 am here and i'm running on caffine and sugar (hmmm sugar) at least till the people I share halls with shut up (I hate fridays...))

No prob. Part of it is my fault for putting the typo in.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 01:27
It's called Militia.

its called force only really usefull if your invaded or in a long drawn out war where you have to get resonably able people for the mincer in a hurry

not that i'm saying thats a bad thing
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 01:28
well as your a somewhat larger nation then me (understatement of the year award goes to....) you could invade me and then i'll hope madly that people come to my aid
Willink
29-04-2006, 01:31
No problem.

Anybody want to start it?


How exactly large of an invasion are you looking for ? And exactly what do you want to happen ?(IE lose ground, then fight invaders up, ect..)

Spit break, please stop talking.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 01:36
i'd be willing to send a resonable force as a part of a coalition (a bit like a finland to your germany...)

But i'm really too small to go up against a country of jenrak's size (even if I ignore a working up period for my military after its recent change in equipment)
Spit break
29-04-2006, 02:35
your troops are 50% of your pop??!?!
crap i messed up lol
there 5%

32,200,000
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 02:37
Never too early to start war, Bronidium...
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 02:49
I know but with a population that size their military must surely be at least 6 times larger then mine so me attacking on my own would be suicidal
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 02:55
So? You'd have me here as well...and I have a decent military budget in the trillions and a big army...
Spit break
29-04-2006, 02:58
my army is large too and a good budget me and AB will help you
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 02:58
How exactly large of an invasion are you looking for ? And exactly what do you want to happen ?(IE lose ground, then fight invaders up, ect..)

Spit break, please stop talking.

I'm looking for a good war. Not to point where I have to RP a resistance group (since I hate RPing as those), but losing a couple cities and such would be alright in my book. Though I will have to call in some allies or friends to help me if it looks like it's going to be a dogpile against me.
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 02:59
A good war I can provide you...heck, after fighting that one with Kraven...
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 02:59
Very well then shall I start the IC thread?

I'll make an agressive move and leave the next part up to you.
Willink
29-04-2006, 03:02
I'm looking for a good war. Not to point where I have to RP a resistance group (since I hate RPing as those), but losing a couple cities and such would be alright in my book. Though I will have to call in some allies or friends to help me if it looks like it's going to be a dogpile against me.

Im already allied with you :). I wouldn't mind helping defending, if AB and someone else invades.
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 03:02
Sure, but I'm probaly done posting for tonight...I'll be back a la manana (laptops don't have the enye feature)...
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 03:02
Very well then shall I start the IC thread?

I'll make an agressive move and leave the next part up to you.

Okay. So far I'm allowing:
-Amazonian Beasts
-You
-Spit Break IF you write with proper grammar and spelling
-Willink, though I'm very blank what you're going to do, so I'll need more info on that

I'm willing to lose, though losing would be in my term fighting every single citizen to the death, and my country will do it - the Gods demand faith!
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 03:03
Im already allied with you :). I wouldn't mind helping defending, if AB and someone else invades.

I didn't know you were an ally. Shows what I know... -_-
Willink
29-04-2006, 03:05
I didn't know you were an ally. Shows what I know... -_-


Since October of 05 i belive. I also have major trade agreements with you too apparently. O.o
Spit break
29-04-2006, 03:06
Oh sorry about that I tend to do that from time to time.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 03:16
The Jenrak incident

Thats the name of the thread (hope you like the name).

If my spelling/grammer goes a bit funny please excuse me i'm dyspraxic and welsh so its all a bit odd really sometimes.
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 04:23
Since October of 05 i belive. I also have major trade agreements with you too apparently. O.o

That is certainly 'o.O' worthy.

Meh, good enough.

Okay, I will post.
Ftagn
29-04-2006, 07:05
Hmmm... It might be a little late, but I could help on the side of the invaders. My nation is, by your description, pretty much the same as yours (Militaristic capitalist fanatics) but the Eternal Emperor is always looking for opportunities to take more land and slaves for the Empire.

I have around 2.6 billion population and a huge military, so I'd probably only contribute a few troops to help out. Y'see, I haven't had the opportunity to get involved in any type of large scale warfare and I want experience. I generally have pretty good grammar, which seems to be a good thing around these parts.

If anyone doesn't mind, that is. I'll wait for a response before I post anything in the war thread.
Chellis
29-04-2006, 07:18
I could come in, as a small role. My professional forces are about 20-25m large, and I have the ability to project power with them better than most nations. However, chellis is isolationist, and sending huge numbers of the professional army, not to mention "den cityeon", the soldiers as part of the compulsary 2 years of service, would be devastating politically.

Would expect invasion troops, if I joined, to be maybe 500k strong, mostly the presigeous and highly trained troops... But its all good. Would be nice to get some war practice in, after so long of being away from it.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 12:17
yes please any troops you can pledge would be great because really even if I manage to get more troops (I think that if my people were to mobilise and train extra troops I could get to 10million plus) but it would be unbalanced with a much lower ratio of armoured regiments and artillary would be a problem (I see a lot having to make do with light tanks/tank destroyers and AMOS) as well as engineers. It would also be mainly army (its hard to expand your navy and air force that quickly) so i'd need support in those ways.
Northford
29-04-2006, 14:11
Is this still open? I'd like to RP in the thread a neutral observer.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 14:34
I thought I'd just post what my army is at the moment so you all know.

Army
50 Armoured regiment
120 MBTs
30 tank destroyers
30 light tanks
Recon company (250 men)
1000 infantry (with infantry fighting vehicles)
engineer demi company (125 men)
Mortar demi company (125 men)
Artillary demi company (125men)
Anti air craft demi company (125men)
125,00 men

200 infantry regiments
1500 infantry (with infantry fighting vehicles)
engineer demi company (125 men)
Mortar demi company (125 men)
Artillary demi company (125men)
Anti air craft demi company (125men)
Recon company (250 men)
30 light tanks
30 tank destroyers
Total 500,000 men

100 support regiments
2 medical companies (500 men)
2 Mechanical companies (500 men)
1 comunication company (250men)
5 supply companies (1250 men)
Total 250,000 men

10 Pioneer regiment
Mortar demi company (125 men)
Artillary demi company (125men)
Anti air craft demi company (125men)
Recon company (250 men)
30 light tanks
30 tank destroyers
sniper demi company (125 men)
6 engineering companies (1500men)
Total 25,000 men

10 artillary regiment
10 artillary companies (2500men)
Total 25,000men

10 Mortar regiment
10 mortar companies (2500 men)
Total 25,000 men

20 air defence regiments
10 air defence companies(2500 men)
total 50,000 men

Air force
5 air mobile regiments
1500 infantry
engineer demi company (125 men)
Mortar company (250 men)
Anti air craft demi company (125men)
Recon company (250 men)
30 light tanks
30 tank destroyers
Total 12,500 men

20 air defence regiments
10 air defence companies(2500 men)
total 50,000 men

25 supply regiments
2 medical companies (500 men)
2 Mechanical companies (500 men)
1 comunication company (250men)
5 supply companies (1250 men)
Total 62,500 men

150 tornado squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
75,000 men

20 attack helicopter squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
10,000 men

20 transport helicopter squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
10,000 men

30 tranport squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
15,000 men

5 tanker squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
5,000 men

2 awac (like the sentry can't remember how to spell the acronim)
25 air craft (500 men)
1,000 men

3 recon squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
1500 men

20 training squadrons
25 air craft (500 men)
10,000 men
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 14:36
yeah its still open

and sorry about that last one being so long i'll have to put it all in its own thread sometime
Amazonian Beasts
29-04-2006, 14:38
Ok, I'm back...I'll find something to post soon...
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 15:49
Anybody else can join. If you want to help me, I'll pay you back. If you are invading me, then cool.
Willink
29-04-2006, 17:05
If i had my military spreadsheet out i could list some stuff....

Anyway, Ill post as soon as actual hostilities start.
Bronidium
29-04-2006, 18:22
Jenrak i'd like more information on these "viz-turrets" and the modifications made to the abrahms (for example are you still using a faster but less fuel effecient turbine or are you on standard)
Devlyn
29-04-2006, 20:16
As stated in post #3, I'll probably join in against Jenrak.
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 20:19
It's pretty much all in my factbook...-_-

But the Vizi-Turrets are five giant cannons per each, pretty much. They shoot out camera controlled shells that explode on contact, and then release noxious fumes.

My modifications on the small number of Lihure tanks I have (which are my only tanks, sadly enough) is that I am using a faster, but much more power hungry turbine. I've doubled the engines and increased the tank's fuel storage, so it moves faster, but it still works in the same amount of time. I've also switched the frame of the Lihure to be more adaptable (eg I can now latch on railguns or rockets to them much easier).
Devlyn
29-04-2006, 20:30
The DPO is a nation of about 2.5 billion citizens, rabidly socialist and highly concerned with human rights (hence our motivation). We have a large military budget (around $26-27 trillion); total military forces of about 50 million, divided evenly among the various branches (10:1 logistics ratio; about 5 million combat troops max.). The air force is modernising, navy is all-new, while armoured/mechanised forces are ridiculously massive but rather expendable and prone to breaking down.

My factbook is really incomplete, but it provides a good idea of where Devlynia actually is.
Jenrak
29-04-2006, 20:32
The DPO is a nation of about 2.5 billion citizens, rabidly socialist and highly concerned with human rights (hence our motivation). We have a large military budget (around $26-27 trillion); total military forces of about 50 million, divided evenly among the various branches (10:1 logistics ratio; about 5 million combat troops max.). The air force is modernising, navy is all-new, while armoured/mechanised forces are ridiculously massive but rather expendable and prone to breaking down.

My factbook is really incomplete, but it provides a good idea of where Devlynia actually is.

Cool.
Bronidium
30-04-2006, 02:45
so I take it they are much smaller calibre and your resonably safe in NBC gear....

okay cool as long as you don't go mad with the future tech (i.e. perfect rail guns are bad, ones you can have on a tank that need lots of maintanance are good)
Jenrak
30-04-2006, 16:28
so I take it they are much smaller calibre and your resonably safe in NBC gear....

okay cool as long as you don't go mad with the future tech (i.e. perfect rail guns are bad, ones you can have on a tank that need lots of maintanance are good)

*scratches head*

Q?
Bronidium
30-04-2006, 23:50
visi-cannons (from your description) and rail guns
Jenrak
01-05-2006, 00:01
Vizi-Turrets! Turrets!
The Transylvania
01-05-2006, 06:17
Sorry, I’m late guys. Been doing things for the last couple of days. Invade Jenrak, you play with the big dogs. Well, am I a big dog? Nope, Alpha Wolf sounds better. Run for your lives because the Count will be mad as Hell. Nobody touches Jenrak without having the Count getting mad.
Bronidium
01-05-2006, 12:16
okay turrets then but is my impression correct
Devlyn
01-05-2006, 13:16
Is this going to be used as a de-facto OOC thread?
Bronidium
01-05-2006, 13:38
well it seems to being used as such

just to point out AMOS is an advanced swedish/finish mortar system

i'll put a link to info later when I find it again
Jenrak
01-05-2006, 20:32
well it seems to being used as such

just to point out AMOS is an advanced swedish/finish mortar system

i'll put a link to info later when I find it again

Okay.
Amazonian Beasts
01-05-2006, 22:25
I finally got a post up!!! Stupid finals and all...
Jenrak
01-05-2006, 22:51
I finally got a post up!!! Stupid finals and all...

Finally...geez.
Bronidium
02-05-2006, 00:43
don't worry we've all been to the exam hell (mine is in two weeks for 3 weeks joy)
Jenrak
02-05-2006, 20:38
don't worry we've all been to the exam hell (mine is in two weeks for 3 weeks joy)

Huh?
Czardas
02-05-2006, 20:44
I'll have a post up tonight Jen, in all likelihood.

T_T
Jenrak
02-05-2006, 20:46
I'll have a post up tonight Jen, in all likelihood.

T_T

Coolio.
Ftagn
04-05-2006, 02:18
Whoops, I had been putting my OOC comments into the main thread.

So yeah...

Jenrak, when you said your Lihure tanks can have rail guns attached, are you meaning that you use railguns? That's fine as long as they have the drawbacks associated with railgun technology today, i.e. high energy usage and rails deteriorating rapidly.
Jenrak
04-05-2006, 02:24
Whoops, I had been putting my OOC comments into the main thread.

So yeah...

Jenrak, when you said your Lihure tanks can have rail guns attached, are you meaning that you use railguns? That's fine as long as they have the drawbacks associated with railgun technology today, i.e. high energy usage and rails deteriorating rapidly.

I don't use railguns. My lihure tanks can just be fitted with them. I have them, but their drawbacks force me not to use them. I'd rather use a reliable weapon instead.
Ftagn
04-05-2006, 03:44
I don't use railguns. My lihure tanks can just be fitted with them. I have them, but their drawbacks force me not to use them. I'd rather use a reliable weapon instead.

Ok, just wondering.

Do you happen to have any good maps of your nation? Perhaps with cities marked and such? That would be helpful.
Jenrak
04-05-2006, 03:55
Ok, just wondering.

Do you happen to have any good maps of your nation? Perhaps with cities marked and such? That would be helpful.

Not marked with cities, no. Just know that Ouridna is what you want to take if you want any chance of getting safely onto the Jenrakian mainland.
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 00:47
I've never written such a long post before. I hope I adequately responded to all of the imminent doom coming down on my navy.

On Willink's fighters: Yeah, they do seem quite PMT. I usually play my nation as PMT, and I know what it looks like...

Try not to clutter up the thread with OOC anymore, folks. Talk about the RP here!
Spit break
05-05-2006, 00:50
as soon as the Naval battle begins my plans will start, it will shock all and chnage the course of Jenrak History
Jenrak
05-05-2006, 01:02
as soon as the Naval battle begins my plans will start, it will shock all and chnage the course of Jenrak History

Ok. And truly.

OOC here. The fury is overwhelming.

And Ftagn, the Vizi-Lords haven't arrived yet. I had them stationed originally near Haasdra to defend, but I decided to move them to the beach. They are en route as of now.

Also note, the only shoreline that is possible to landed on is the beaches of Ouridna, the large port city. The rest of the way is covered in cliffs. So to have a strong beachhead position, you need to take the city of Ouridna which is crawling with Temsplaces and Sadicistra.
The Transylvania
05-05-2006, 01:13
as soon as the Naval battle begins my plans will start, it will shock all and chnage the course of Jenrak History

Okay, just one thing. I don’t like backstabbers. It will be a change in your history, too.
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 02:06
Ok. And truly.

OOC here. The fury is overwhelming.

And Ftagn, the Vizi-Lords haven't arrived yet. I had them stationed originally near Haasdra to defend, but I decided to move them to the beach. They are en route as of now.

Also note, the only shoreline that is possible to landed on is the beaches of Ouridna, the large port city. The rest of the way is covered in cliffs. So to have a strong beachhead position, you need to take the city of Ouridna which is crawling with Temsplaces and Sadicistra.

Whoops, didn't notice that. Assume the superdreadnought is carrying on attacking fortifications and attacking cruisers until they arrive.

Well, then they're heading for the beaches of Ouridna. I have my own elite soldiers, a little more conventional, but elite none the less...

Oh, I appreciate constructive criticism, BTW. This poor noob is still very inexperienced at RPing.

If you were wondering, my night vision goggles are generation 4 and can switch between thermal imaging and image enhancement depending on the situation. If you've heard of Splinter Cell, think of the goggles that Sam Fisher wears. They're like that.
Amazonian Beasts
05-05-2006, 02:11
If Willinik is using PMT fighters, can we not use PMT as well...
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 02:14
If Willinik is using PMT fighters, can we not use PMT as well...

That'd be cool, but I don't think Jenrak had that in mind when he specifed MT.
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 02:20
Oh, and I'm confused... Is the darkness caused by it being night, or by the chemical fog?
Spit break
05-05-2006, 03:02
Okay, just one thing. I don’t like backstabbers. It will be a change in your history, too.
.......................well am not on your team am i?
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 05:56
.......................well am not on your team am i?

Transylvaina is helping Jenrak. So, ostensibly, you're on his team. If you betrayed Jenrak, you'd be betraying Trans here also.
Bronidium
05-05-2006, 10:57
If we have to go through the town then we flatten the town simple.

I'm thinking we knock out their radar network then bomb the place with HE, cluster, phosphorus and chemical.

Then we shell it to blases, then we land with flanking movements by air landed troops to either side.

If we do this we should be able to do this with much reduced casulties (we don't want a Dieppe here)
Bronidium
05-05-2006, 11:23
oh and just for the recored as none of my enermies have done anything about it or commented on it in any way i'm assuming that my actions against your merchant fleets have borne fruit and killed large amounts of shipping now.
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 15:07
If we have to go through the town then we flatten the town simple.

I'm thinking we knock out their radar network then bomb the place with HE, cluster, phosphorus and chemical.

Then we shell it to blases, then we land with flanking movements by air landed troops to either side.

If we do this we should be able to do this with much reduced casulties (we don't want a Dieppe here)

Umm.. that could be a problem, because I'm rushing all my troops onto the beaches there to escape all the bombs, shells, and napalm that is coming down on my fleet.
Not that the beaches will be safer, but then they would actually get to fight back.
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 15:09
oh and just for the recored as none of my enermies have done anything about it or commented on it in any way i'm assuming that my actions against your merchant fleets have borne fruit and killed large amounts of shipping now.

It's better not to assume things, it can be considered god-modding.
Maybe his shipping routes are protected? Or something. I dunno.
The Transylvania
05-05-2006, 16:04
Oh, and I'm confused... Is the darkness caused by it being night, or by the chemical fog?

It is a chemical fog.

Transylvania is helping Jenrak. So, ostensibly, you're on his team. If you betrayed Jenrak, you'd be betraying Tranny here also.

It is Trans or JWolf, nothing else. Read my sig to find out why I said that.

Umm.. that could be a problem, because I'm rushing all my troops onto the beaches there to escape all the bombs, shells, and napalm that is coming down on my fleet.
Not that the beaches will be safer, but then they would actually get to fight back.

Sorry to said this but the only way to get to land is being guard by Jenrakian Navy and his stone fortress islands and The Nightmare, my first defense line. If you get pass Jenrakian with your cargo ships, they will enter The Nightmare. Talk to Jenrak about it before you call what I just said BS.

Are you going to role-play the losses of your fleet? Just to tell you, you can shot the missiles down but the warhead will set hit some and put fire on everything it hits.

And one more thing, use the OOC thread for OOC posts. That was centered at the people who posted OOC posts in the IC thread.
Jenrak
05-05-2006, 20:52
If we have to go through the town then we flatten the town simple.

I'm thinking we knock out their radar network then bomb the place with HE, cluster, phosphorus and chemical.

Then we shell it to blases, then we land with flanking movements by air landed troops to either side.

If we do this we should be able to do this with much reduced casulties (we don't want a Dieppe here)

It would be prudent to capture Ouridna, or else I'll use your forces as a media outlet and pull in Elite Sandurian Kanderskayes and Rithman-naar Aircraft. Right now I am doign waht is logical in real life - Jenrak is fighting a defensive war, and its conquered colonies aren't helping that much. If Ouridna is leveled, then not only will you force a full retaliatory strike from all my colonies as well as mainland Jenrak, but you'll be fighting elite Rith aircraft and Sandurian tanks.

I keep my conquered areas intact to gain the things inside. Levelling places wastes ammo. Remember your country is right now under a strained economy because of the war. To level Ouridna, I'm assuming you have pulled in quite an amount, no? Therefore your economy is going to be on a temporary discourse, and henceforth if you do successfully level the city, then your country's economy will be crushed forever.

Not to mention your own allies need to take the city. If you bombard it, then you'll be killing your friends as well, and right now I can field up a larger and more powerful land and naval army (seeing as this is my homeland).

oh and just for the recored as none of my enermies have done anything about it or commented on it in any way i'm assuming that my actions against your merchant fleets have borne fruit and killed large amounts of shipping now.

Nope. I have withdrawn all my trading units, though I have not made an official announcement since I know you would pull in your units. I'm intent on keeping you in the dark and still searching for merchant ships. It's impossible to starve me out as I have two other conquered areas to sustain, by land. The largest one, Hsac, could keep me sustained for a couple decades. Also, it's situated on the eastern end of Jenrak. It's easier to go through Jenrak to destroy Hsac, and that's hard enough as it is.

If you did kill any of my merchant ships, I would have RPed their deaths. But at the moment of wartime, I called them back, which was days before you launched your units to hunt them down.

Oh, and I'm confused... Is the darkness caused by it being night, or by the chemical fog?

The darkness is caused by the fog. It's my newest chemical. It deposits light minerals in the air that attaches to existing Jenrakian chemicals already present from decades of chemical warfare. If touched by the skin or inhaled or through any form of the body, it begins to deposit at the blood behind the retinas, causing permanent blindness. My soldiers are vaccinated so the minerals break-up before they reach to their destination, but my vaccine has not been officially announced to the public.

A second attribute is that the heat is insane during the Jenrakian July. It reaches a high of 70 degrees celsius usually during the noon, and that's enough to frythe skin off your bones. Chemicals are deployed during those temperatures because of two effects:

-Your suits will get unbearably hot without proper cooling systems, and your soldiers will start to fade in and out of consciousness
-If you take your suits off, you will go blind.


Hope it clears things up.

Also, no PMT. So Willink, if possible, I'd like you to resort to your more-futuristic MT fighter you have available.

I know it sounds wierd.
Ftagn
05-05-2006, 21:12
OK. I see now.

But wouldn't your own people be affected by the temperature? Or do they have really good air conditioning? I don't think you can vaccinate against deadly heat...

For reference, my suits use liquid cooling, with little fans powered by body heat. It wasn't meant for such temperatures as you describe, so I don't know how well it'd work.

I haven't RPed much damage to my fleet yet, but assume it's taking heavy damage. Hopefully your forts would be taking damage back, as stone (is it really stone?) fortresses make nice targets for sustained bombardment.

I'm expecting to take heavy casualties, but for the purposes of RP, Ftagn military commanders are not known for caution or subtlety...

I'll post again later.
Jenrak
05-05-2006, 21:20
OK. I see now.

But wouldn't your own people be affected by the temperature? Or do they have really good air conditioning? I don't think you can vaccinate against deadly heat...

For reference, my suits use liquid cooling, with little fans powered by body heat. It wasn't meant for such temperatures as you describe, so I don't know how well it'd work.

I haven't RPed much damage to my fleet yet, but assume it's taking heavy damage. Hopefully your forts would be taking damage back, as stone (is it really stone?) fortresses make nice targets for sustained bombardment.

I'm expecting to take heavy casualties, but for the purposes of RP, Ftagn military commanders are not known for caution or subtlety...

I'll post again later.

My soldiers are used to this insane heat, though they're still human, hence why only my Temsplace and Sadicistra - they're my elite soldiers, the Sadicistra the more dangerous, and they are both equipped with large group cooling systems. They're pretty much hiding in cooled areas along the shoreline.

My forts are being hit, and they are stone, but it's only an asthetic view. The Argus were part of Jenrak since the Ascheran empire, and the forts initially were militaristic installments, but they eventually became nothing more than historical objects. The Jenrakians found themselves hard to take out a majority of the fortresses on the Argus because the majority of the castles are embedded into the cliffs, henceforth they just keep them there. So it's just there to look good. The Vizi-Turrets around them, however, aren't. They're actually there to fight.
Jenrak
05-05-2006, 21:32
If anybody has MSN they'd like to share, I'd like to know.
The Transylvania
05-05-2006, 21:45
*Sits on my hands and waits for a post about the invader fleet*
Amazonian Beasts
05-05-2006, 21:47
If anybody has MSN they'd like to share, I'd like to know.
finsnumber13...though I'm not always on

I'm also listed as Amazonian Beasts...
Jenrak
05-05-2006, 21:48
Indeed.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 00:39
*Sits on my hands and waits for a post about the invader fleet*

I'm feeling like I'm the only invader here...
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 00:41
If anybody has MSN they'd like to share, I'd like to know.

I'm downloading Trillian right now, a chat client that supports MSN among others... I'll post again with my account soon.

EDIT: I've created an account specifically for NS. It's ftagnNS@hotmail.com. I'll be logged on until late tonight, hopefully.
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 00:43
I'm feeling like I'm the only invader here...

Looks like it.
Jenrak
06-05-2006, 01:09
Bronidium, get your OOC posts to here.
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 01:14
Jenrak, I am right. The enemy fleets would have to go through [The Nightmare to get to the city. I love saying The Nightmare. Sound awesome. The name works because it is a nightmare to the enemy ships.
Jenrak
06-05-2006, 01:20
Okay. The Nightmare. Hey, it does sound cool.
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 01:36
See told you. All fear The Nightmare.
Jenrak
06-05-2006, 01:39
Makes sense.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 03:16
Ummm... how effective would incindiary weapons be against modern ships? As far as I can tell, not much. There's no jets on the aircraft carriers to set on fire, and every one is inside the ships. Using napalm and flamethrowers and such against smaller targets like tanks works better, as the intense heat cooks the crew alive. But...Ships with a foot of steel plating as armor aren't so susceptible.

I'd say you could set off some missiles and such, detonate ammo on the smaller boats...

I'm still waiting for my allies to post something.
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 05:16
Well, they will wonders when they have the right targets. The missiles are aimed at bridges of those ships. Each warhead has the same power as a 750 pound napalm bomb. More targets could be the runways of the carriers, melt the runways and your planes can’t land. Awesome right?

The missiles could hit anywhere and cause chaos. Say one missile hit’s a door that leads down into the ship, then another one hit that same door. And another and etc. Melting the door, locking the crew in the under part of the ship.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 05:41
Well, they will wonders when they have the right targets. The missiles are aimed at bridges of those ships. Each warhead has the same power as a 750 pound napalm bomb. More targets could be the runways of the carriers, melt the runways and your planes can’t land. Awesome right?

The missiles could hit anywhere and cause chaos. Say one missile hit’s a door that leads down into the ship, then another one hit that same door. And another and etc. Melting the door, locking the crew in the under part of the ship.

I see... I've been doing some research on Napalm, and I found out it burns at up to 1,200 degrees celsius, which is well enough to soften steel down to 50% of integrity. I'll RP my fleet's imminent death soon...
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 05:53
See my attack was cooler then nukes. The Count will be happy.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 06:14
See my attack was cooler then nukes. The Count will be happy.

Hehehe... fire... hehehehe.

Y'know, when I committed such a small navy to this, I figured I'd have back-up. Truce and reconciliation sounds like a good policy unless my allies start helping.
Jagada
06-05-2006, 06:24
Well I was going to jump back into this war--ignoring my first entry due to many changes I've made. But now...seeing as how Ftagn is alone--it might as well stay out. I'm not very well going to attack Jenrak and Translyvania--might as well just invade Ftagn again--same result.
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 06:30
Yes, fire. It is fun to play with. @Jagada: It is okay.
Jagada
06-05-2006, 06:36
Trans you have a TG.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 06:38
Well I was going to jump back into this war--ignoring my first entry due to many changes I've made. But now...seeing as how Ftagn is alone--it might as well stay out. I'm not very well going to attack Jenrak and Translyvania--might as well just invade Ftagn again--same result.

I'm sure they wouldn't hold any grudges against you if you helped me out a bit. :D

Though, it might be against your principles to help an imperialist aggressor like me.
Jagada
06-05-2006, 06:40
Yes it would Ftagn--also...I am not ashmed to admit the Count and the crazy Jenrakians could whipe the floor with Jagada. So supporting you wouldn't be very good.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 07:02
Yes it would Ftagn--also...I am not ashmed to admit the Count and the crazy Jenrakians could whipe the floor with Jagada. So supporting you wouldn't be very good.

You think they're crazy?! I'll show you crazy! You ain't seen nothing yet!!

But you're right, it's probably a little too late for that.
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 07:10
You think they're crazy?! I'll show you crazy! You ain't seen nothing yet!!

Nobody is crazier then me. I have some crazy ass plans, if my flame attck does not take out your flagship.

Jagada: You have a TG!
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 07:23
Nobody is crazier then me. I have some crazy ass plans, if my flame attck does not take out your flagship.

Jagada: You have a TG!

I don't want to give anything away, but it'll be pretty drastic.

Plus, there's a million crazy people in landing craft, both small and large, speeding insanely towards the beach, and I know some of them have to get through the Nightmare (TM). At this point, there is no way for them to get back home as the fleet is dead, and the only way to get help is to take the town...

Bah, it's too late now. I'll post tomorrow.
Jenrak
06-05-2006, 16:00
A million? Oh good. The Sadicistra won't go hungry.

This is the Annirak Era. So a truce and safe passage home would be allowed, if reparations paid. If Jenrak was in the previous era (Authaulus Era), it'd be a fight to the death.

Funny how absolute power changes.

Nobody is crazier then me. I have some crazy ass plans, if my flame attck does not take out your flagship.

With Cajun Accents.
Ftagn
06-05-2006, 16:53
A million? Oh good. The Sadicistra won't go hungry.

This is the Annirak Era. So a truce and safe passage home would be allowed, if reparations paid. If Jenrak was in the previous era (Authaulus Era), it'd be a fight to the death.

Funny how absolute power changes.



With Cajun Accents.

Keep in mind that some of them are in tanks... big tanks. And some small tanks. But, I guess that's what yer temsplace are for, eh?

Cajun accents are the best. :)

I gotta go do some work, but I'll be back to post later. Around 4 or 5 PM for me (Pacific time).
The Transylvania
06-05-2006, 19:42
With Cajun Accents.

Yup, all fear the Cajun accents. lol
Jenrak
06-05-2006, 21:49
Keep in mind that some of them are in tanks... big tanks. And some small tanks. But, I guess that's what yer temsplace are for, eh?

Cajun accents are the best. :)

I gotta go do some work, but I'll be back to post later. Around 4 or 5 PM for me (Pacific time).

Yep. My Temsplace are there as an anti-armour unit, my Sadicistra anti-infantry.
Assis
06-05-2006, 22:02
The Commonwealth of Assis regrets to inform you
that it is in no position to assist you at this present time.

We are currently going through one of the worst population
crisis ever, following the massive number of casualties
suffered during last night's WW77.

Should our circumstances improve significantly
in the next decades, we will be happy to reconsider
your offer at such time.

I want to know more about the Assis Population Crisis.
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481173)
Jenrak
07-05-2006, 01:36
Advertising your thread in mine...great.

Meh.
Ftagn
07-05-2006, 02:17
My posts up, but it's shorter than I would have liked. I hope I didn't miss anything.

Ah, and Jenrak, I don't think I ever knew exactly how many ships you brought... care to enlighten me?

Oh yeah, and there's still a ton of my fighters hanging around, but they have no place to land with the carriers' flight decks on fire...
Assis
07-05-2006, 02:31
The people of the Commonwealth of Assis regrets to inform you
that we don't have any textile production facilities working in the country,
due to a shortage of workforce resulting from the war.

Consequently, we will have no need for advertising
in the foreseeable future. Should this situation change,
we will certainly accept your most generous offer
of a free advertising space for our ailing textile industry.

In difficult times like these, you kind words shall not fall
in deaf ears. Once again, the people of Assis would like to thank you
from the bottom of our hearts.

I want to know more about the Assis Population Crisis.
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481173)
Jenrak
07-05-2006, 04:41
My posts up, but it's shorter than I would have liked. I hope I didn't miss anything.

Ah, and Jenrak, I don't think I ever knew exactly how many ships you brought... care to enlighten me?

Oh yeah, and there's still a ton of my fighters hanging around, but they have no place to land with the carriers' flight decks on fire...

My entire offensive fleet. I'm not good with numbers, so I don't want to post numbers that sound too small, or don't want to sound wanky.
Ftagn
07-05-2006, 05:09
My entire offensive fleet. I'm not good with numbers, so I don't want to post numbers that sound too small, or don't want to sound wanky.

Yeah, I have that problem too. I spent a long time agonizing about the size of my fleet here, and if I could afford that many carriers. I found that a 30 trillion military budget could buy me thousands and thousands of carriers, but that would be so very unfair...

So, ah, what exactly is this Nightmare, and where is it?

These are your layers of defense, if I get this right:
1. Your navy.
2. The Argus island fortresses.
3. The nightmare (Cliffs lined with cannon? Where do the cliffs fit into the geography? The maps don't show it. And this is the only way through to the beaches, right?)
4. Your city.

It hardly matters anymore, but I just like to know these things. Y'know... for next time. :D
The Transylvania
07-05-2006, 05:35
3. The nightmare (Cliffs lined with cannon? Where do the cliffs fit into the geography? The maps don't show it. And this is the only way through to the beaches, right?)

A lot of Jenrak coast is lined with cliffs. Talk to Jenrak about it. I think the Nightmare is located near the city your transport are heading for.

Edit: Oh snap!!! I just read back, the Nightmare is located on the middle coastline between Jeviz'Kraa and Haasdra. I don't think that is close to the city you are heading for. Before I take my last post out, I will wait for Jenrak to say something.
Jenrak
07-05-2006, 15:54
....

You have one and two mixed up.

I've stationed my fleet behind the Argus, mostly since it's harder to destroy an Island, and thus they'll soak up the majority of your fleet's fire, and then you fight my fleet, which is firing behind the safety of the Argus.

The Nightmare, I believe, is situated on the Viraigius clifflines, the river that is between Jeviz'Kraa and Haasdra, indeed.

My coastline is entirely cliffs except for the city of Ouridna, my port city, which will need to be taken.

Then there is my city.

So yeah, you just have one and two flipped around.
Ftagn
07-05-2006, 17:24
Oh ok, I see how that works now.

Wait... so the nightmare is guarding a river between two other cities, and not Ouridna. That works for me. :)

Hopefully, I'll have another post up around 1:00 PM Pacific time.

Also, what type of chemical are your bullets dipped in?
The Transylvania
07-05-2006, 17:25
Oh snap, my post needs to go then. The Nightmare will not be under attack.
Jenrak
07-05-2006, 18:46
Oh ok, I see how that works now.

Wait... so the nightmare is guarding a river between two other cities, and not Ouridna. That works for me. :)

Hopefully, I'll have another post up around 1:00 PM Pacific time.

Also, what type of chemical are your bullets dipped in?

CND II, secretly known as Aulocos' child. It's used by my soldiers as a means to make sure when an enemy is shot, they die. If my soldiers just slightly penetrate the skin, or hit a part of the body that has no vital organs, then they still die because the poison will do the rest. Like my other secret projects, the only vaccination are ones my military have. It's taken four years for them to develop the vaccination with state of the art medical systems and the most advanced machinery they could get.

It immediately travels through to the direction of the blood-stream they enter, and thus it can't be commonly tracked. It hits hard on whatever organ it lands on. Here's what happens:

If Waist or lower:
-Thighs of the afflicted become shrunken and sinew on the legs rip apart.

If Heart:
-Deposits and fungus-look alike bacteria clot the left atrium.

If brain:
-Loss of motor functions and multiple strokes.
Ftagn
10-05-2006, 06:16
So.. um.. planning on posting again sometime? :( You haven't posted in 2 days.
Jenrak
10-05-2006, 12:17
So.. um.. planning on posting again sometime? :( You haven't posted in 2 days.

I can't find it. I'm looking, but I have bad finding skillz
Ftagn
10-05-2006, 20:43
Here it is! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479979&page=6)
Jenrak
10-05-2006, 21:26
Here it is! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479979&page=6)

I will post as soon as I can.

A bit busy right now.
Ftagn
15-05-2006, 04:40
I'll have another post up soon. I'm a little busy right now.
Jenrak
15-05-2006, 12:24
I'll have another post up soon. I'm a little busy right now.

No problemo. I have alot of patience.
Ftagn
18-05-2006, 23:21
It just occurred to me that I'm going to be really, really busy for a few weeks. I don't want to keep you waiting for too long, so would it be too much to just say that you win? I don't know what you wanted to do, but the only thing I had left planned to do was detonate my carrier's nuclear reactors in an attempt to poison your land...

I can make an effort to write a post (it usually takes me a long time, 'cause I suck) or whatever, if you want me too. But basically, I'm gonna be gone for a while.
Jenrak
18-05-2006, 23:50
It just occurred to me that I'm going to be really, really busy for a few weeks. I don't want to keep you waiting for too long, so would it be too much to just say that you win? I don't know what you wanted to do, but the only thing I had left planned to do was detonate my carrier's nuclear reactors in an attempt to poison your land...

I can make an effort to write a post (it usually takes me a long time, 'cause I suck) or whatever, if you want me too. But basically, I'm gonna be gone for a while.

No problem. And my land's poisoned to an extent anyways, so it's kinda fruitless.