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OOC: The Kraven Corporation and Father are out there, a fat cat, spinning his webs with his tentacles in every pie...

Shouldn't be too hard to spot then.
(graciously paraphrased from the Thin Blue Line)

Just our of curiosity, how many nations are fighting Kraven now? This seems to be, well, everywhere. Even over in the NationStates forum where my own forces are slowly being duped into becoming involved in a war against a Kraven slave state.

ooc: I'm not.

who? ive never even heard of them outside of the thread titles... :confused:

OOC :

I'm not .

ic the empire is ocupied crushing mationbuds revels

IC :

The Galactic Empire of Mationbuds wishes to thank Sephiroth once again for its dedication to assist us in quelling the rebellion .

Regards ,
Sith Lord Darth Bane , Grand Adviser 2
and
Martin Luther , Grand Adviser 1
and
Dictator Darth Matter , Dictator of the Galactic Empire of Mationbuds

OOC: I'm kinda against him, but not actually fighting him right now, as it seems EVERYONE else is.

OOC: I'm against him ICly, and I've fought him before briefly, but ATM I'm not in armed conflict with him....yet. Until all the other fronts close down, and focus on mine, then I shall.

I'm not actively fighting him, actually trying to avoid it. It is hard when he's trying to invade you though...

Orezia...

CHECK YOUR RP.

Lol... I replied to ya.... and you ain't replied to me yet I think

There is a whole score of us about to begin a multi-national campaign against him in the arterus island thread.

Got a link to the Arterus Thread please?

A majority of 'good' nations are fighting Kraven because they know they're too weak to take on AMF.

A majority of 'evil' nations don't care.

Another thing is, that although I'm new, I've read things, and asked people, and they all say that if you leave AMF alone, he'll leave you alone.

Kraven just starts trouble for the sake of it.........

No. He starts trouble ICly because that's his role-play style (terror, inhumanity, oppression, evil and eternal war) and his nation works. That's how he's become well known (add the fact that he has role-play experience from other games), by having his own niche - something AMF himself found out through various trial and error over the ages from NS legends before AMF's time.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=478089&page=36

there's the arterus island thread.

Not fighting Kraven. Yet anyway.

OOC: I've been out of the loop for so long I'd be of little help. I am curious, however, as to the nature of the conflict, etc.

Warfare is my buisness, and buisness seems to be pretty good at the moment. My nation has been running weapons (modern-tech only), supplies, advisors, and numerous other items to warring nations for some time now, and always welcomes more business. Being a mercenary nation, various forces are avaliable for hire and deployment on very short notice.

/raises blood-spattered hand/

OOC: I'm fighting him, and ICly I hate him. OOCly, however, I have the utmost respect for him, having become such a big name in the NS community in so little time, and just because he is a likeable guy. Great RPing style, interesting storyline, and almost nonstop action prove for some great RPing fun.

And about the whole Kraven and AMF thing:

We attack and try to hold back Kraven because he actively tries to bring the world under his influence through the use of excessive force. We don't attack AMF because AMF is as close to isolationist as you can get. There's no reason to really attack AMF, unless you truly want to get raped.

Only because they have no imagination, and require an evil opponent to kill.

I used to beat on him for fun, not because he was evil, there's a difference.

We aren't at war, yet; however, we have secretly deployed special forces troops to Kahanistan, which is undergoing invasion by Kraven. With luck, our involvement will remain secret...

Nope currently not at war with anyone but then Crookfur has onyl really juts enmerged from its long slumber.

I'm not at war with Kraven, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Considering he provokes it of course. Has anyone noticed that people tend to side with the defender, and hardly ever the agressor?

Romanar plans to remain neutral, and the IC reason is that we're not sure whose side to be on. We only know of Kraven and AMF by reputation, but we do know that AMF detonated a WMD.

The OOC reason is, I'm still inexperienced at RP, and more so at warplay, and I think this is out of my league.

Romanar plans to remain neutral, and the IC reason is that we're not sure whose side to be on. We only know of Kraven and AMF by reputation, but we do know that AMF detonated a WMD.

The OOC reason is, I'm still inexperienced at RP, and more so at warplay, and I think this is out of my league.

AMF detonated... What was it, 36 nukes a few days ago? Yeah, they get nuke-happy sometimes. But there's nothin' wrong with that at all. We do it, too, sometimes.

LOL

I am.

And I agree with Crave, (Cravan for you all)

Kraven is a nice guy and I like him OOC.

AMF detonated... What was it, 36 nukes a few days ago? Yeah, they get nuke-happy sometimes. But there's nothin' wrong with that at all. We do it, too, sometimes.

Against innocents?

On the topic of the thread, everyone sides with AMF because they are too afraid to side against him. Every nation who says "that if you leave AMF alone, he will leave you alone" is lying. I have seen him step into conflicts and destroy the shit out of other nations just to show his viewpoint on things. Although thats not really that wrong, or out of step in NS gameplay, it has been done by your "innocent" country. Plus those nations who are saying that are halfway kissing ass, like many other nations, because they want another excuse to side with the so called "invincible" AMF. Yes AMF is a good RPer, but he shouldn't the only reason to sacrifice your IC ideals and side with him.

On that note, I am on the fence about openly supporting Kraven. I recently fought a war alongside of him, something I consider that may have brought us slightly together. I wouldn't be able to openly support Kraven only because I have many of my military assets tied up with another war. With most of my assets in another war I cant risk contracting war with AMF. I have to do more thinking about it.

My country is no great fan of AMF but for the most part if you leave him alone he leaves you alone. If you can give us some examples of AMF going after people we would like to know.
Both AMF and Kraven seem to be top role players and they seem to put a lot of work into any thread they are on.
Tarlag is not currently involved in the war but with the way this conflict is expanding we will be drawn in sooner or later.

Eh, I don't intend to fight Kraven outright. Unlike the AKA and AMF I don't go for the roots. I go for the seeds. Kraven has seeds in Macabees, HailandKill, Jenrak, Translyvania (even though they're at war I suspect some alliance in the future). I'd much rather beat these guys, one by one, and then go for Kraven.

Also because I hate it when thousands of nations jump on a single country thinking that due to so many nations against this one country they will win. With Kraven--all the rulebooks are trash and scraps of paper. I know how the Kraven War Machine works to an extent (heck, I GAVE him 13 million CP to use from Jagada, even after Extermination).

If I do join in the fight against Kraven, which I will have to considering there is NO WAY my peopl would reaslitcally side with him--I'd probably just fight to keep his allies out of the war to keep him in AMF's sights. Then again, I'm no fan of AMF ICly, and I'd love to see him get the same treatment everyone is giving Kraven.

Someone should help 'rebuild' the Kraven Corporation. And more people should help him, it gets boring when its 500 against 1(figurativilly(sp?) speaking)

All though rebuilding or even joining Kraven would be some interesting role playing it would be a death sentence for the country that did so. With so many nations looking to stop a mud hole in Kraven giving him anything would draw you in on the losing side.

OOC: The Kraven Corporation and Father are out there, a fat cat, spinning his webs with his tentacles in every pie...

Shouldn't be too hard to spot then.
(graciously paraphrased from the Thin Blue Line)

Just our of curiosity, how many nations are fighting Kraven now? This seems to be, well, everywhere. Even over in the NationStates forum where my own forces are slowly being duped into becoming involved in a war against a Kraven slave state.


More importantly, how does he survive all these wars?

Although not an actual slave state, I take my orders from him, to a degree.

You should all follow my example and become a slave state.

No, really, its fun. I had no real reason for existing before. Now I actually have a goal instead of just drifting from topic to topic.
Thats just me, though.

Zukariaa']You should all follow my example and become a slave state.

No, really, its fun. I had no real reason for existing before. Now I actually have a goal instead of just drifting from topic to topic.
Thats just me, though.

My reason for existing is the destruction of opression and all that fun, yet nasty stuff.

My reason for existing is the destruction of opression and all that fun, yet nasty stuff.
Bleh. I've never liked any of that goody-goody junk. It gets annoying when you play games or watch movies where the good guys win no matter what. I'm always rootin' for the bad guys, always have.

Although, thats not saying Kraven is bad. Kraven only wants complete unification. Shouldn't be too bad, eh?

That's a fun, if not occassionally a key part of being the villain and making a good villain Zukariaa, believing that what you're doing is good and absolutism. :)

Anyway, I role-play as the 90% benign, peacemongering and honorable nation with a just as honorable leadership in a constitutional federal republic with parliamentary representative democracy.

I'm not good or bad. I'm very pragmatic. "Kick balls, grab cash, run, don't get caught!" kind of pragmatic. With a little fascist militarism thrown in for laughs, so I hopped on the supreme overlord state wagon.

Destroying Kraven is like killing a name. You can eradicate it all you want, but it survives somewhere, somehow.

I'd discourage any gigantic invasion that could destroy Kraven. Its really would be no fun if he was gone.
I doubt total destruction could happen, either way.

I'm not. Should I be?

I'm not. Should I be?

Yar. You should not.

I gave my Puppet Toopoxia as a Slave State, I was just gonna ally with him but my puppet is way small to effect anything major, I'm RPing again with my major nation and hope to be slowly turning it evil again.

All though rebuilding or even joining Kraven would be some interesting role playing it would be a death sentence for the country that did so. With so many nations looking to stop a mud hole in Kraven giving him anything would draw you in on the losing side.

If a group of nations allied with him, that would give you an interesting situation and an enemy cant/wont just crush them like a bug(Though I have the impression that Kraven isnt being crushed at all).

I wouldnt mind helping him out, Offcourse I'd do it with a puppet nation, because this is my 'nice' republic.