NationStates Jolt Archive

In order to create a safer universe, it is the belief of the founders of this orginization that an alliance must be formed. The alliance must be secret at least in part. Above all, supportive and helpful for all nations involved, as well as furthering its agenda and keeping word of the alliance to a minmum. The alliance must be affirmative, and capable of working with nations of all political and/or religious idealology. The alliance must be exclusive, allowing only trustworthy and reliable nations to be a part. The alliance must be formidiable, a key player in the domestic, international, universal, and all other levels. Therefore, it is with this resolve that this alliance is created.

- President Keith Johnson's Handwritten Address concerning CASS

Collective Alliance of Secure States (CASS)

Membership:

Geneticon (Founder)
Pythogria (Founder)
Amazonian Beasts
Cravan
The Horde of Doom
Mer des Ennuis
Drexel Hillsville

Articles:

Article 1: Basic Citizen Rights

All citizens of all CASS member states shall be given the following rights:

A. The right to own property or possessions, except those declared illegal;
B. The freedom of speech, so long as said speech is not intended to offend;
C. The right to live in peace and privacy;
D. The right to a full and free education;
E. The right of protection, be it police or military;
F. The right to all necessities;
G. The right to believe in whatever they wish to, be it a religion or idea;
H. To be protected by the entirety of the law;
I. To have equal rights regardless of beliefs, race, color, social standing, or any other conditions.

Article 2: Nuclear Act

Nations within CASS are permitted but not encouraged to posess nuclear weapons. It is the belief of this group that nuclear weapons are important to control for defense purposes, yet they are a horrible weapon with huge destructive power and great liability. Therefore, CASS establishes these standards:

A. No nation within CASS under a population of 150 million people may posess nuclear weapons.
B. Nuclear warheads will be limited to only 10,000 warheads per every 500 million people within the said nation.
C. Nuclear weapons may not be used by a CASS nation against a nation under the population of 40 million.
D. Nuclear weapons are strongly suggested to be contained for show only, and not for use, and any CASS nation who uses nuclear weapons must first always recieve approval from 1/2 of the member nations before the weapons can be used.
E. Nuclear weapons may not be used without a just cause.
F. Nuclear weapons may never be aimed at civilian targets unless their is a just cause. In this special case, 3/4 of the member nations must approve the action before it will be permitted.
G. All above guidelines are null and void if said member nation is attacked first with nuclear weaponry and uses nuclear weaponry in a retaliatory strike.

Invited Nations:

N/A

Pythogria suggests that in the Articles, rules regarding the treatment of citizens, the economy, and WMDs be written. We suggest each citizen be given some form of basic rights and be given education. Oh, and put a reasonable WMD limit. Nobody needs 10 trillion warheads. We only own 5,000, for goodness sake!

Pythogria suggests that in the Articles, rules regarding the treatment of citizens, the economy, and WMDs be written. We suggest each citizen be given some form of basic rights and be given education. Oh, and put a reasonable WMD limit. Nobody needs 10 trillion warheads. We only own 5,000, for goodness sake!

OOC: ok... but no limit on other types of weapons like biological or chemical, as well as air force and the rest of the military. No limits on those. But I like your suggestions. Care to write the articles here, and then I'll copy them in? (or we can modify them and then copy them) That way, we're both founding it.

OOC: ok... but no limit on other types of weapons like biological or chemical, as well as air force and the rest of the military. No limits on those. But I like your suggestions. Care to write the articles here, and then I'll copy them in? (or we can modify them and then copy them) That way, we're both founding it.

OOC: Article:

Article 1: Basic Citizen Rights

All citizens of all CASS member states shall be given the following rights:

A. The right to own property or possessions, except those declared illegal;
B. The freedom of speech, so long as said speech is not intended to offend;
C. The right to live in peace and privacy;
D. The right to a full and free education;
E. The right of protection, be it police or military;
F. The right to all necessities;
G. The right to believe in whatever they wish to, be it a religion or idea;
H. To be protected by the entirety of the law;
I. To have equal rights regardless of beliefs, race, color, social standing, or any other conditions.


Sound good?

OOC: I am very interested in this, but I must ask: Do you have specific restrictions on WMDs drawn up yet?

OOC: I am very interested in this, but I must ask: Do you have specific restrictions on WMDs drawn up yet?

OOC: No, but 10,000 warheads is fine, knowing you're a responnsible nation.

OOC: No, but 10,000 warheads is fine, knowing you're a responnsible nation.


OOC: Wooooo! I get to keep my massive arsenal! Yay!

However, I will wait a little while before joining, but I know I will.

OOC: Article:

Article 1: Basic Citizen Rights

All citizens of all CASS member states shall be given the following rights:

A. The right to own property or possessions, except those declared illegal;
B. The freedom of speech, so long as said speech is not intended to offend;
C. The right to live in peace and privacy;
D. The right to a full and free education;
E. The right of protection, be it police or military;
F. The right to all necessities;
G. The right to believe in whatever they wish to, be it a religion or idea;
H. To be protected by the entirety of the law;
I. To have equal rights regardless of beliefs, race, color, social standing, or any other conditions.


Sound good?

OOC: Sounds good for the first.

OOC: Sounds good for the first.

OOC: Ok then... what about the economy? What should we allow/disallow?

OOC: *Cough* *I would love to do this* *Cough*

OOC: *Cough* *I would love to do this* *Cough*

OOC: *hack* Good *hack*

OOC: So am I invited?

OOC: So am I invited?

OOC: Yes.

DSC had gotten the letter, altough how he did not know. Somehow it had got past security, and made it into the Vault. It seemed a good idea, a secret alliance that would not judge it's members very much.

The perfect thing he needed.

As little as he knew, he had deciphered that Pythogria was in it. He had not forgotten the nations help to his cause in the war. The thought of his tanks rolling alongside his was quite fanciful indeed. DSC had decided

He would join.

DSC had gotten the letter, altough how he did not know. Somehow it had got past security, and made it into the Vault. It seemed a good idea, a secret alliance that would not judge it's members very much.

The perfect thing he needed.

As little as he knew, he had deciphered that Pythogria was in it. He had not forgotten the nations help to his cause in the war. The thought of his tanks rolling alongside his was quite fanciful indeed. DSC had decided

He would join.

The Horde is now fully part of CASS.

Do we have a symbol?

Do we have a symbol?
http://www.top-tattoo-designs.com/tattoo%20design/tribal/tribal-symbol.gif

Maybe this?

http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:ak92BTJpSBplOM:http://www.trials-online.com/images/store-det-symbol.jpg

Or this?

http://www.nuug.no/pub/herman/lm/vs1/firewire-symbol.png

Perhaps?

http://www.blackwyrm.com/Extras/Algernon/Art/Symbol%20-%20Serpent%20Queen.png

Could this be it?

OOC: how do i join the CASS?

OOC: how do i join the CASS?

OOC: I invite you. I'll send a letter.

IC:

To: Calatine

From: CASS

CASS, the Collective Alliance of Secure States, invites your glorious nation to take part in this alliance.

--CASS

How about this. (http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7025/islands0nu.png)

It looks secure, and it carries that whole secret society vibe.

As the President received the letter he looked it over. It was from the CASS and he decided he would join. OOC: i'm not very good with roleplaying posts :p

As the President received the letter he looked it over. It was from the CASS and he decided he would join. OOC: i'm not very good with roleplaying posts :p

OOC: Well, OK.

And Horde, nah, I just don't like it.

so what symbol do we have?

so what symbol do we have?

Which one do you want? Can you present a suggestion? Vote for one. I vote the tribal symbol.

This? (http://www.worldofdarkness.com/images/CircleoftheCroneSymbol.jpg)
And lets hold back on recruiting for a couple of days. lets decide policy first, get some experiance and then look for promising nations. This must be kept a secret society.

This? (http://www.worldofdarkness.com/images/CircleoftheCroneSymbol.jpg)
And lets hold back on recruiting for a couple of days. lets decide policy first, get some experiance and then look for promising nations. This must be kept a secret society.

Yes, agreed on policy.

But that symbol... that makes us look like an evil society...

i vote the tatoo one as well

i vote the tatoo one as well

Tatoo: 2 Votes

i vote the tatoo one or the http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn...det-symbol.jpg one

What about this? (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Skull_and_crossbones.svg/400px-Skull_and_crossbones.svg.png)

OOC: A lot happens in the short course of time...

IC: The Amazonian Dominion fully and whole-heartedly agrees to the alliance proposal, and looks forward to the rise and spread of the ordeals of CASS.

OOC: I like the tatoo one as well...

thats cool

i don't mind which symbol we get

Pythogria welcomes Amazonian Beasts to CASS.

OOC: So, tatoo it is.

i think we should have a song what about this one?
http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/Patriotic%20-%20US%20Army%20Song.mp3

i think we should have a song what about this one?
http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/Patriotic%20-%20US%20Army%20Song.mp3

OOC: Perfection

http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/Patriotic%20-%20US%20Coast%20Guard%20Song%20-%20Semper%20Paratus.mp3 or this one

http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/Patriotic%20-%20US%20Coast%20Guard%20Song%20-%20Semper%20Paratus.mp3 or this one

OOC: That's even better!

or mabye this one http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/Full%20Metal%20Jacket%20Military%20Cadence.mp3 this one has words but it's a army song

Liked the Coast Guard one...

yea the last one is a bit weird

Liked the Coast Guard one...

Yep, that's the best one.

and here are two more http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/(Bands)%20Navy%20Anchors%20Aweigh%20Fight%20Song.mp3
http://www.uspatrioticpictures.com/music/Patriotic%20-%20USMC%20-%20Halls%20of%20Montezuma.mp3

so are we going with the coast guard?

so are we going with the coast guard?

Yes.

ok. wait where are we going to put this stuff like the song and the symbol?

ok. wait where are we going to put this stuff like the song and the symbol?

Geneticon'll put it in the first post.

Front page? With everything else?

Front page? With everything else?

Yep, first post.

Lets take the lyrics to the coast guard one and customize em...

From North and South and East and West,
The CASS's in the fight.
Destroying subs and landing troops,
Our foes will feel our might.
For we're the first invaders,
On every fighting field.
Afloat, ashore, on men and Spars,
You'll find the Secure States shield.

We're always ready for the call,
We place our trust in Thee.
Through howling gale and shot and shell,
To win our victory.
"Semper Paratus" is our guide,
Our pledge, our motto, too.
We're "Always Ready," do or die!
Aye! CASS, we fight for you.

From Aztec shore to Arctic zone,
To Europe and Far East.
The Flag is carried by our ships,
In times of war and peace.
And never have we struck it yet,
In spite of foe-men's might,
Who cheered our crews and cheered again,
For showing how to fight.

SURVEYOR and NARCISSUS,
The EAGLE and DISPATCH,
The HUDSON and the TAMPA
The names are hard to match;
From Barrow's shores to Paraguay,
Great Lakes or ocean's wave,
The CASS fought through storms and winds
To punish or to save.

Aye, we've been "Always Ready"
To do, to fight, or die
Write glory to the shield we wear
In letters to the sky.
To sink the foe or save the maimed
Our mission and our pride
We'll carry on 'til Kingdom Come
Ideals for which we've died.

Eh?

where in his first post?

where in his first post?

I'd assume the beginning.

How long did it take you to come up with that?

Lets take the lyrics to the coast guard one and customize em...

From North and South and East and West,
The CASS's in the fight.
Destroying subs and landing troops,
Our foes will feel our might.
For we're the first invaders,
On every fighting field.
Afloat, ashore, on men and Spars,
You'll find the Secure States shield.

We're always ready for the call,
We place our trust in Thee.
Through howling gale and shot and shell,
To win our victory.
"Semper Paratus" is our guide,
Our pledge, our motto, too.
We're "Always Ready," do or die!
Aye! CASS, we fight for you.

From Aztec shore to Arctic zone,
To Europe and Far East.
The Flag is carried by our ships,
In times of war and peace.
And never have we struck it yet,
In spite of foe-men's might,
Who cheered our crews and cheered again,
For showing how to fight.

SURVEYOR and NARCISSUS,
The EAGLE and DISPATCH,
The HUDSON and the TAMPA
The names are hard to match;
From Barrow's shores to Paraguay,
Great Lakes or ocean's wave,
The CASS fought through storms and winds
To punish or to save.

Aye, we've been "Always Ready"
To do, to fight, or die
Write glory to the shield we wear
In letters to the sky.
To sink the foe or save the maimed
Our mission and our pride
We'll carry on 'til Kingdom Come
Ideals for which we've died.

Eh?


I'll let everyone else handle this.

ok i'm a bit confused but i deal with it later ok i have to go bye everyone

It's not bad, actually...a whole hell of a lot better than I could do.
I'll let everybody else comment on it though...

those are really good lyrics

So is that a yes?

Yes from me.

So... Yeah. Think I can join, now?

I dunno exactly how I should apply. I guess you send me a letter or something...?

OOC: Ok... we can't exactly allow everyone into this.

I'm VERY skeptical about allowing a nation with under 25 posts join this alliance. It worries me a bit.

Amazon, Cravan, Horde. You're all in. Calantine, I would rather hold off on letting you in till you get some more experience.

As for the song and symbol, I like the Coast Guard song, and the lyrics. I don't know exactly what picture you all decided on... but anyways.

Me and Pythogria still need to decide (between the two of us) on the rest of the articles before we can do much of anything.

It is the opinion of the Horde that every state should leave the question of WMD's to themselves. Yay or Nay?

It is the opinion of the Horde that every state should leave the question of WMD's to themselves. Yay or Nay?

I say we put an upper limit on though. Be safe here. Who needs 10 billion warheads?

Oh, and Geneticon, maybe an article on justification for nuclear action?

I say we put an upper limit on though. Be safe here. Who needs 10 billion warheads?

Oh, and Geneticon, maybe an article on justification for nuclear action?

Ok... I'll write the nuclear article when I get a chance.

Updated with a Nuclear Act.

sounds great...let's have a secret alliance; doesn't that lead to WW I with everybody getting dragged into a massive war?

sounds great...let's have a secret alliance; doesn't that lead to WW I with everybody getting dragged into a massive war?

OOC: Usually... yes.

But the point of this alliance is that every member nation is large enough to take on a war himself. Overkill.

I do have one suggestion for an addition to the nuclear articles:

G. All above guidelines are null and void if said member nation is attacked first with nuclear weaponry and uses nuclear weaponry in a retaliatory strike.

That way, these articles stop members from carrying out devistating preemptive strikes on civilian targets, but can retaliate with nuclear weaponry if attacked by nuclear weaponry. It does seem fair to me.

I do have one suggestion for an addition to the nuclear articles:

G. All above guidelines are null and void if said member nation is attacked first with nuclear weaponry and uses nuclear weaponry in a retaliatory strike.

That way, these articles stop members from carrying out devistating preemptive strikes on civilian targets, but can retaliate with nuclear weaponry if attacked by nuclear weaponry. It does seem fair to me.

Ok... I'll ride with that.

Glad to get an invite, however I have applied for membership in the Militaristic Nation Defence Pact. Looking at the constitution of both, there doesn't seem to be a conflict. If necessary, I will withdraw from theirs. I do not necessarily agree with all parts of the constitution in this, specifically
-B. The freedom of speech, so long as said speech is not intended to offend - I don't care if it is offensive, just subserive
-D. The right to a full and free education (even though I do provide a free education, i don't see it as a right)
-G. The right to believe in whatever they wish to, be it a religion or idea - Not EVERYthing, just most things

Thats really it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481645

Glad to get an invite, however I have applied for membership in the Militaristic Nation Defence Pact. Looking at the constitution of both, there doesn't seem to be a conflict. If necessary, I will withdraw from theirs. I do not necessarily agree with all parts of the constitution in this, specifically
-B. The freedom of speech, so long as said speech is not intended to offend - I don't care if it is offensive, just subserive
-D. The right to a full and free education (even though I do provide a free education, i don't see it as a right)
-G. The right to believe in whatever they wish to, be it a religion or idea - Not EVERYthing, just most things

Thats really it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481645

Now that I look at those closer... I don't like them either. You bring up some good points.

Welcome to the alliance, I will modify the first post later today.

I do have an issue that may need to be addressed:

I am in the militaristic nation defensive pact. One of its members, leocardia, was attacked and called for Aid. I plan on responding to this, and may be required to invade one of the two nations attacking him. However, The Horde of Doom has shown support for the attackers, and I do not wish hostilities with the Hordian people. Any moderation would be appreciated.

I do have an issue that may need to be addressed:

I am in the militaristic nation defensive pact. One of its members, leocardia, was attacked and called for Aid. I plan on responding to this, and may be required to invade one of the two nations attacking him. However, The Horde of Doom has shown support for the attackers, and I do not wish hostilities with the Hordian people. Any moderation would be appreciated.

Leocardia attacked Pythogria earlier this year. He was defeated in this endevour by several nations who make up CASS. We view this nation as a threat, and will not tolerate it. Please either do not give him support or withdraw for their alliance.

This sounds cool but I take it that its invited nations only?

This sounds cool but I take it that its invited nations only?

No... all nations can apply... but only certain nations will be accepted.

No... all nations can apply... but only certain nations will be accepted.
Well in that case I'd like to apply...
>_>
<_<

Well in that case I'd like to apply...
>_>
<_<

Welcome to CASS!

Welcome to CASS!
Thanks, when I was looking up the CASS after you mentioned it to me, I came upon the Confederation of Allied States which has us listed as Enemies...

May I ask what that's about?

Thanks, when I was looking up the CASS after you mentioned it to me, I came upon the Confederation of Allied States which has us listed as Enemies...

May I ask what that's about?

hmm... I didn't even know we had any enemies... we're a pretty young alliance. In any case, we haven't been contacted about anything like that yet.

It could be a result of the Pythogria conflict a few days back.

hmm... I didn't even know we had any enemies... we're a pretty young alliance. In any case, we haven't been contacted about anything like that yet.

It could be a result of the Pythogria conflict a few days back.

Okay, I wasn't sure if it was some thing like a small problem with a single nation or maybe its just another alliance by the same initials...

Is Pythogria still here?

Is Pythogria still here?

I'm not sure... haven't seen him for like 3 or 4 days.

Unfortunetly, due to happenings in my nation, I must drop out of this alliance. I have noticed that I have come in conflict with a few of the points of Article 1...

I reget that I must leave...