NationStates Jolt Archive

ICCD is currently taking bids for the following contracts: The total funds available for all projects is 3 Trillion G$ or prox 4.5 Trillion NS$ to be divided amongst the forces

Stealth MIssle Corvette/frigate with capacity to transport airborn and marine forces system must also have landing space for a vtol craft or helicopter the size of an osprey/harrier or larger . MIssle systems are to be medium or long range. The ideal landing area is 'enclosable' able to weather a large storm and offer armour protection for the craft such as a deployable shell, that will not compromise the stealth characteristics. ICCD has some corvette models however it would like to exand the role of it's next generation missle corvettes to be able to be more task capable in exanding the type of craft that the craft can hold. NO DIESEL

Supercaviated Stealth Surface/Subsurface attack/counter missle/torpedo defence and underwater troop transport craft. These subs are to serve a variety of 'workhorse roles' capacity to deploy a number of UMV's and stealth seal like operations. Heavy Priority is placed on an enviornment that can transport troops for a week or two in a manable environment, must be able to support deployment of UMV's via torpedo/missle tubes.. arms compliment must accept missle/torpedo and UMV delivery. System must be stealth of the highest degree. NO DIESEL.

APC - needs to be STEALTH this involves thermal paint, camo, high speed and armour protection a MUST. Must also have mine and explosive protection. To carry up to 20 soilders, also must be convertable to field medical, transport role and accept module units for communications/sensorts. Must be shield from NBC to realistic levels including radius of matter melt. i.e. heat resistant, blastback radiation sheiled EMP shielded etc.. etc..

Accepting contract submissions for stealth aircraft must be able to preform intel, on the flight air defence and small payload devlivery- general must outperform the ICCD Blackhole Whitesteam
accepting submissions for search and rescue, sensor, special ops insertion helicopters
accepting submission for advanced tilt rotor troop and equipment transport


willing to consider other contract suggestions such as arms, armour body armour, power armour, tanks, artillery, backpacks, field kits, construction/engineering etc.. would like to be capable for tropical/subtropical and temperate climates, island and amphibious warfare is high priority also mountain and hilly warfare.

ICCD will only accept the best and at a reasonable price. This is an oppourtunity to advertise your storefront.. this 4.5 Trillion is an annual fund for contracts of 'foreign' states that is part of ICCD's emerging security force policy.

Willing to consider other contract suggestions such as arms, armour body armour, power armour, tanks, artillery, backpacks, field kits, construction/engineering etc.. would like to be capable for tropical/subtropical and temperate climates, island and amphibious warfare is high priority also mountain and hilly warfare.


Pale Rider Arms whole-heartedly recommends several of our own designs that fit these categories, namely the M25 High Velocity Assault Rifle, the Akuma Powered Battle Armor, and the PRA standard NBC warfare suit. All are available at reasonable prices, and all are at the cutting edge of modern warfare.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/PRA%20junk/M25BullpupRifle.jpg

Length: 560mm
Barrel Length: 491mm
UGL Barrel Length: 214mm
Cartridge: 6mm x 50mm high velocity caseless, 30mm grenade
Muzzle Velocity: 5000 fps
Ammuntion: 60 6mm, 6 30mm grenades
Modes of Fire: Safe, Semi Auto, 3 round burst, full auto, grenade
Mass (Empty): 4.1 kg
Mass (Fully Loaded): 6.42 kg
Features: Recessed top mounting rail, integral smartgun system
Cost: 2700 USD (includes set of smartgun goggles)

The successor to the popular M22 series HVAR, the M25 was designed as a lighter version of the M22, while maintaining its accuracy and firepower. In order to meet these goals, a bull-pup configuration was adopted, shrinking the over all size of the weapon. The 40mm grenade launcher was replaced with the smaller 30mm variant, not only reducing weight but increasing logistical efficiency, as it shares its ammunition with the GL series of launchers. Other features were improved, notably the addition of a full integral smartgun system, as well as a large magazine.

Pale Rider Arms NBC Warfare Suit
Pic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/viridian_1_1024x768.jpg)

The latest in Pale Rider Arms protective gear, the NBC Warfare Suit is standard issue to Otagian military forces. Weighing in at 45 lbs, the suit is composed of artificial spider-silk, with numerous hard plates protecting vulnerable locations on the body. The suit is resistant to small arms fire and virtually immune to stabbing and tearing.

The suit is entirely sealed, with air filtration, and carries an attached 10lb oxygen tank for when the gas mask's filters won't cut it. Needless to say, ten pounds of oxygen is not enough for a prolonged engagement, and is simply intended to provide enough air to proceed to a safer environment.

The helmet is hard ceramics, and contains a variable frequency short range radio, night vision goggles, and the aforementioned gas mask.

COST: 10,000 USD

Akuma Powered Battle Armor

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/blaesa/Akumapowerarmor.png

The second in the PRA line of powered battle armor, the Akuma is at the pinnacle of PRA technology. Incorporating a wide variety of systems into its three meter frame, the Akuma is ready for anything.

Armament
Continuing in the tradition of PRA multipeds, the Akuma is equipped with a single power armor-grade universal weapons mount, which replaces the armor’s primary hand and forearm. This system is capable of mounting a variety of weapons, which include:
13mm machine gun (PRA GPHMG variant)
20mm chaingun
40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher
Iron Rain Gatling Shotgun (10 gauge)
30mm high velocity battle rifle
Thunderclap 60mm cannon
Ammunition for the weapon systems is for the most part belt-fed, with ammunition stored in a heavily armored backpack.

The second arm is unarmed, although the hand is capable of a full range of motion and thus is capable of using most weapons intended for infantry. The Akuma above is shown with a modified PRA shock bokken and chaingun.

PRA has also experimented with a series of back-mounted weapons, with limited success. While not yet included in the Akuma’s load out, Pale Rider Arms has high hopes that a later version may mount these weapons.

Interface
Included in the Akuma is a standard PRA datajack, allowing the pilot to plug directly into the power armor and operate it via direct neural interface. As usual, the armor features full ASIST (artificial sensory induction system technology), and prevents neural signals from the pilot’s brain from reaching his body, thus preventing injury. The pilot sits inside the chest of the armor, his legs extending to the upper greaves. His arms are contained entirely within the torso, and his head is contained directly below the helmet, which serves as a sensor platform and general target.

Sensors
The Akuma boasts a full sensor suite, with visible spectrum and infrared cameras scattered across the armor (one cluster in the head, one on the back, and one in the chest). The head also contains ultrasonic sensors, used to detect opponents using high grade optical camouflage. Also integrated into the armor is a full smartgun system, providing precision targeting information to the operator.

Armor
The Akuma provides an excellent degree of protection to its pilot, with up to seven centimeters of composite armor between the pilot and the outside world. The armor also features optional OLED camouflage, allowing it to act as an extremely effective sniper.

Power and Propulsion
Continuing in the tradition of other PRA power armor, the Akuma is powered by a polonium RTG, the same model as that found in the Tetsu no Kami. The half kilo of polonium provides power for up to six months before needing to be refueled. The RTG is, of course, heavily shielded.

The Akuma uses a unique method of propulsion: Instead of relying on servos and pistons like many primitive suits of power armor, the Akuma features a complete artificial musculature, precisely duplicating the range of movements of the human body using electroactive polymer artificial muscles (EPAM). By running an electric current through these materials, bundles can be made to expand and contract, flawlessly simulating the actions of the human body.

The Cost
The Akuma is available for the cost of 500,000 USD.

Further Pale Rider Arms products can be found at our storefront on the International Mall. (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?act=SF&f=156)

ICCD is very interested in your PRA suits. Are they EMP sheilded?


* 13mm machine gun (PRA GPHMG variant) what type of 13mm round is this.. ICCD uses a 12mm standard round can this gun be converted to accept 13mm or 12 mm? or just the 12mm all ICCD's ammo types are incremental of 12mm


* 20mm chaingun to a 24 mm

* 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher - can this be converted to our small explosive device roughly equivlent to a 40mm grendade but also capable of short propelled small mortar rolls etc..

* Iron Rain Gatling Shotgun (10 gauge) - is it posible to convert this to 0.94488189 inches give or take, as that is are standard shotgun ammo size however we would like the barrel modified and the loader modified to accept four 12mm 'regular rounds' the fireing to be acceptable for burst or single fire settings 1,2,3,4

* 30mm high velocity battle rifle, we would like this upgraded to a 36 mm fire capacity
* Thunderclap 60mm cannon, we would like this to be modifed to a 72 mm

Ammunition for the weapon systems is for the most part belt-fed, with ammunition stored in a heavily armored backpack. We would like the ammo backpack to be extrareinforced and the crew compartment blastout.. meaning if the ammo detonates it will eject the pilot out.

The second arm is unarmed, although the hand is capable of a full range of motion and thus is capable of using most weapons intended for infantry. The Akuma above is shown with a modified PRA shock bokken and chaingun.

we would like the datajack modified to ICCD model military nueral connector.

We would like the sensors expanded to cover the entire EM range, as well as have sonar and atmospheric ecolocation, in the ultrasonic sensor suite, we would also like a boom mic capacity installed.
we would also like to include a noise cancleation/speaker system. we can supply the software for this if required.
a secure communications system installed.


we would also like the software portion to be programable and have the smartgun systems 'automated or to have the piloting done via remote or 'preprogramed' or done via our ai/ci combat systems. We can always make an ai/ci robot to pilot however having the system inbuilt as an ai/ci capable i.e. autopilot & combat computer. If you can't do that without increasing the price as long as it is expandable for our engineers it should be ok.

Can you make the composite armour laser resistant? or EM absorbant? Something like the Glitterboy systems if you are familiar with them

We do have reactors so the polonium can be obtained... is there some way to rig the power core to act at a nuke or neutron bomb? if it is set to detonate? even a small reaction.

Is the artificial muscle system EMP sheilded.. I think that it being emp shielded and having air purifiers and an internal air and water supply is a must.. also sweat absorbance humidity reduction. /heater/cooler/

we would like the second arm to have a tool kit inserted around the hand.. like a swiss army knife including a plug in for computer interface, an optic wire, laser both for ranging, accoustic and other purposes.

We would like a computer system inbuilt like the pdas we just bought. voice control, movement control touch control. we need the cockpit to require retina and fingerprint piloting authoirzation as well as pilot smart card.

we would also like the ammopack to be 'ejectable' and boostable. we would like the ammopack and weapons to be 'replaceable' in case of damage or otherwise and where the ammo backpack is a storage unit or a rocket for jump assistance or Samas type lift even if for short durations like a rotor system.


we would like the suit thermally sheilded and cammoflauged.
we would like the suit NBC shielded.

Above all we would like to insure that all items are module based for future upgrading.. this includes both the software and the hardware.

<Email message>
<from> Crookfur Consultancies (sales@cc.co.stra)
<to> ICCD Maritime procurement department.
<subject> Re: Your Corvette requirement

Dear Sirs,
From reading your intimated requirement for the aquisition of a "stealthy corvette" design we feel we may be able to provide a solution.

Before we make a full proposal we would ask a couple of questions to enable us to provide you with a more satisfying solution.
Firstly would it be aceptable if a more "traditional" hanger arrangement was used to store the aircraft in the instance of inclemant weather?
Secondly when you reffer to Missile systems do you mean, Surface to air, surface to surface or land attack missiles?
Thirdly and lastly, we feel pushed to inquire as to the reasons behind your stated disapproval towards diesel engines, when such engines generally provide the safest engine choice for this size of vessel or at least play a part of a CODAG system.

We thank you for taking time to consider our enquiries and look forward to fulfilling your requirements as closely as possible.
Yours
Jason McIntyre
Head of Sales
Crookfur Consultancies.
</email>

ICCD is very interested in your PRA suits. Are they EMP sheilded?
The suits' outer armor should work as a faraday cage, defending against most EMP attacks. However, we don't reccommend testing this, as any electromagnetic radiation that does manage to bypass the outer layer would play merry havoc with the EAP musculature, quite possibly injuring the pilot. Computer systems, however, are contained in their own individual faraday cages.

* 13mm machine gun (PRA GPHMG variant) what type of 13mm round is this.. ICCD uses a 12mm standard round can this gun be converted to accept 13mm or 12 mm? or just the 12mm all ICCD's ammo types are incremental of 12mm
The round's precise dimensions are 13mm x 105mm. We can adapt all weapons to your specifications, although there may be a nominal fee to do so.

* 40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher - can this be converted to our small explosive device roughly equivlent to a 40mm grendade but also capable of short propelled small mortar rolls etc..
The AGL should be able to fire these with little to no modification.

* Thunderclap 60mm cannon, we would like this to be modifed to a 72 mm
Sadly, this will not be possible. The Thunderclap uses its own specially designed dual-stage round. Upgrading the bore would require designing an entirely new round.

We would like the ammo backpack to be extrareinforced and the crew compartment blastout.. meaning if the ammo detonates it will eject the pilot out.
Sadly, this will not be possible. While we can reinforce the backpack, ejecting the pilot would also remove his legs and arms, which in all likelyhood would be lethal.


we would like the datajack modified to ICCD model military nueral connector.
This can be done quite easily.

We would like the sensors expanded to cover the entire EM range, as well as have sonar and atmospheric ecolocation, in the ultrasonic sensor suite, we would also like a boom mic capacity installed.
These can be done, although the ultrasonic sensors are essentially what you described (echolocation/sonar).

we would also like to include a noise cancleation/speaker system. we can supply the software for this if required.
This can be done relatively easily, running it through the standard speaker system already in place.

a secure communications system installed.
A radio is already included, and encryption can be managed by the onboard computer.
OOC: I missed a few details such as this in the write-up, I'll add them in soon.
we would also like the software portion to be programable and have the smartgun systems 'automated or to have the piloting done via remote or 'preprogramed' or done via our ai/ci combat systems. We can always make an ai/ci robot to pilot however having the system inbuilt as an ai/ci capable i.e. autopilot & combat computer. If you can't do that without increasing the price as long as it is expandable for our engineers it should be ok.
The suit is, interestingly, already capable of movement sans pilot, although remote operation is prone to jamming, and thus discouraged by PRA. Your AI systems should have no trouble, however.

Can you make the composite armour laser resistant? or EM absorbant? Something like the Glitterboy systems if you are familiar with them
OOC: Ah, another Rifts fan? I actually sell GB's too, although those are more for the FT crowd.

IC: A laser-resistant laminate can be added, although this will greatly increase visibility.

We do have reactors so the polonium can be obtained... is there some way to rig the power core to act at a nuke or neutron bomb? if it is set to detonate? even a small reaction.
Polonium is not fissile, so using it in a self-destruct mechanism is essentially impossible.

we would like the second arm to have a tool kit inserted around the hand.. like a swiss army knife including a plug in for computer interface, an optic wire, laser both for ranging, accoustic and other purposes.[quote]
This can be done.

We would like a computer system inbuilt like the pdas we just bought. voice control, movement control touch control. we need the cockpit to require retina and fingerprint piloting authoirzation as well as pilot smart card.
Such systems can be built in, although we personally feel that the various alternate control systems are overly redundant.

[quote]we would also like the ammopack to be 'ejectable' and boostable. we would like the ammopack and weapons to be 'replaceable' in case of damage or otherwise and where the ammo backpack is a storage unit or a rocket for jump assistance or Samas type lift even if for short durations like a rotor system.
PRA does not currently offer flight-packs for our power armor, although an experimental system is currently in the works. If it is successful, we will gladly supply you with more details. As for the ammunition, the backpack is already modular and is changed out with the UWM, and can be quickly reloaded by properly trained technicians.


we would like the suit thermally sheilded and cammoflauged.
we would like the suit NBC shielded.
Thermal shielding will be quite difficult. The high amount of thermal radiation from the Polonium RTG will inevitably cause the suit to be warmer than its surrounding environment, and any efforts to prevent heat leakage will most likely increase the interior temperature to an untenable level.

Camoflague is tenable, although would render any Glitter Boy-esque laser-resistant surfaces useless.

Above all we would like to insure that all items are module based for future upgrading.. this includes both the software and the hardware.
Most important components (computer, weapon systems, RTG) are modular already, and can be replaced quickly and efficiently. Software, of course, is quite easy to replace.

Note that any and all changes noted above will increase the price of each individual unit. Initial estimate for the upgrades is an additional 15,000 USD.

<Email message>
<from> Crookfur Consultancies (sales@cc.co.stra)
<to> ICCD Maritime procurement department.
<subject> Re: Your Corvette requirement

Dear Sirs,
From reading your intimated requirement for the aquisition of a "stealthy corvette" design we feel we may be able to provide a solution.

Before we make a full proposal we would ask a couple of questions to enable us to provide you with a more satisfying solution.
Firstly would it be aceptable if a more "traditional" hanger arrangement was used to store the aircraft in the instance of inclemant weather?
Secondly when you reffer to Missile systems do you mean, Surface to air, surface to surface or land attack missiles?
Thirdly and lastly, we feel pushed to inquire as to the reasons behind your stated disapproval towards diesel engines, when such engines generally provide the safest engine choice for this size of vessel or at least play a part of a CODAG system.

We thank you for taking time to consider our enquiries and look forward to fulfilling your requirements as closely as possible.
Yours
Jason McIntyre
Head of Sales
Crookfur Consultancies.
</email>


Any design is acceptable for consideration and its full value and merits will be considered. Note that at the close of each year the quota for foreign purchases will be filled as much as is posible to spread goodwill in the security industry. A traditional hanger is fine, we are looking at capacity of the craft to handle a variety of landing and take off of air vehicles, stealth.
We are looking for all of the above missle capacities, in our previous corvets we used adjustable tilt and swivel and various locaions for hardpoints and an integrated payload distrobution system. Surface to Air is a priority surface, seabased to land territary. We have a number of subsurface launched missles that is subsurface to air subsurface to land that are usable as well. The boat should integrate with our payloads. The corvette is designed for coast gaurd, search and rescue and deterance against opposition risking aircraft or expensive vessels with the capacities of a missle damaging or destorying the craft. They are also used for transport of goods and materials as well as short term troop ferrying. We prefer hydrogen oxygen or methane fuel mixtures where posible or 'cores' although our smaller craft tend to be gas turbine, we have a renewable supply of methane. We find it is environmentally more feasable and frees up our oil reserves for other purposes, the ship may accept diesel in addition to other sources of power, however we do not use diesel as a primary fuel in our naval system we generally use gas turbine, or nuclear or in our newest systems fission, and we are working on a number of experimental drives. If we see an astounding deisel system we will consider it, deisel fell out of favour a number of years ago, it jus tinst clean enough for us and a number of other reasons. ICCD leaves it open to the designer our guidelines are just that, a guide, not the law, we are looking for the best if it is the best we will like it.

I was hacked while responding to your post but I'll attempt to resummarize everything I just lost.

A new version.

Increased hardening we can supply the depleted uranium metal if required. EMP resistance needs to be worked on

A new cockpit with robotic comparisons for the pilot so that the arms etc.. are not contained outside the cockpit area, this insures ejection is feasable.

All of the weapon conversion and payload requirements can be met, we will pay 10% of the production cost as a form of DPR for the production and produce the units.

laser based line of site communication to be added as well as mircrowave by extending the radiowave range to infrared, and even light spectrum, falling short of xray range although we would like to be able to filter the raditation produced in the core into this system if posible, perhaps allowing a directed radiation leak.

would like to use our optical chameleon system with a cooling system that is use core heat to excite matter creating kinetic energy which is transfered to peizoelectric energy the electricity is then used in a refrigeration unit to turn heat into cold. The second part was transfer of heat to make plasma of a material then having a plasma ejection tube if posible by making a temprorary electromagentic case that will disipate after a number of miliseconds, creating a jet of air, or perhaps by venting this plasma to the feet that have a magnetic barrier that they can then float on the plasma ejection upward like a form of plasma engine.. cool.

Polonium with beryllium can be used to make nuclear bombs. so if we add beryllium to the mix of teh polonium core it could be configed to act as a nuclear device.

The PDA is useful for a secondary recording and backup system, composition of out of the system programming of software and personal use for the pilot, and a number of other uses.

Keep us up to date on the flightpacks etc.. we have some of our own mech systems however we havn't produced anything but jump jets to date, although we have made a minuature robot samas system

It is ok if a layer gets damaged as long as it doesn't compromise any of the layers below it.

We are willing to pay up to a 50% increase in price for this larger unit.
We are looking at an initial run of 10,000 or 100,000 of the units. With spare parts etc..

The Shipyards at Wuller adn Farthing have exactly what you need for your stealth Guided Missile Corvette design request in our Mercury class Modular Combat Vessel

Mercury class- Modular Combat Vessel (Guided Missile) (LMV/H)
Dimensions: 70 m length; 16 m width; 3 m draught
Speed: +55 knots
Engine: Wuller and Farthing MHD-141 Hydro jets (x4)
Armament: 1x CIWS 2x anti torpedo decoy deployer 2x anti ship missile quads (Fires four nautilus anti ship missiles), 2x AMLS (10 cells, standard and anti ship missiles) 1x VLS (5 missiles any type)
Aircraft: 2 variable purpose helicopters or 2 VTOL attack/defense fighters
Price: 3.6 million

using the catalogue of Modular Combat Vessels, you can use our standard pieces to pich and choose among configurations to optimize this vessel for your needs.
(Unit pictured is the Guided Missile standard configuration.)
The Mercury Class Vessel Configurations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10433270&postcount=4)

The Complete FMCV Catalogue (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469065)

Also, as we offer equipment similiar to your requests for a Missile/Torpedo defense and Submersible Troop Carrier, we would like you to further explain the requirements for both of these requests so that we may better respond to your needs

Or you can see for yourself at The Nine Military Storefront (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385183)

<Email message>
<from> Crookfur Consultancies (sales@cc.co.stra)
<to> ICCD Maritime procurement department.
<subject> Re: Your Corvette requirement
Dear Sirs
Many thanks for taking the time to answer our questions, we now consioder ourselves able to provide you witha breif quotation and details on our submission.

First off details on our vessel:

CNM Angelica Class Special Operations Frigate

Dimensions:
Length: 145m
Beam: 17m
Draft: 8m

Displacement: 4060tons

Power plant:
3 CFPW T533 Multi fuel turbines linked to electric drive
Max Speed (full load sea state 4): 31knots
Max range (15knots): 15,000km
Compliment: 75 plus accommodation for up to 50 marines/special forces personnel
Boat facilities: Semi well deck at rear with room for 1 boat of up to 17m class plus 2 RiBs
Air craft facilities: 1 medium to large size helicopter/ VTOL
Weapons:
1x G71E 57mm Duel Purpose gun turret on forward deck
1x 8cell MK110 VLS, in amid ships super structure
1x 10 cell MK95 VLS on foredeck
2x 4tube SAM4B launchers, one on either side of the super structure
1x G52 40mm CIWS on aft helicopter hanger
2x Remotely operated 40mm CTA cannon mounts
2x 533mm torpedo tubes
Systems:
CFES-MK63 Air search and targeting radar
CFES-MK501 IRST system
CFES-MK708E Surface search radar
CFES-MK26E surface to surface missile targeting system
AN/WLR-1H Electronic Support Surveillance Equipment
CFES-MK902F sonar
CFES- MK21M data link
MK92CF Fire Control
MK119CF fire control
MF, HF, VHF, UHF Communications (Line of Sight & Satellite)
Cost: $320million per unit

Notes:
Engines: As multi fuel designs the turbines can be run on just about any combustible liquid, ranging from top grade jet fuel all the way through to vegatable oil, quoted performance/range data is for diesel.

Modularity:
Main gun: can be replaced by most small to medium calibre naval guns with a rough limit of a 100mm sized weapon
CIWS: Can be replaced with your preferred choice of CIWS such as phalanx or goalkeeper
MK95 VLS mount: can be replaced with VLS tubes to fire most common VLS short to medium SAMS such as Sea wolf mk2, naval MICA VL and ASTER-15
MK110 VLS: is able to accept most missiles capable of fitting into a Mk41 VLS cell, alternatively the VLS system can be replaced with fixed tube launchers for your prefered choice of Surface to surface missile.

As to our quote, as mentioned in the main stats of CNM Angelica the unit purchase price is $320million, on orders over 100 units we can offer offer a 15% discount. If production rights would be preffered a Full unlimited domestic production license, including domestic production rights to all applicable systems, weapons and ammunition, is availble for $172billion (ie only worth it if you intend to biuld more than 1000 units), a limited production licensing scheme can be negotiated along the lines of £10million plus $16million per ship to be produced.

We look forward to hearing your reply

Yours
Jason McIntyre
Head of Sales
Crookfur Consultancies.
</email>

we would like you to further explain the requirements for both of these requests so that we may better respond to your needs


What we are looking for in the corvettes
-stealth
-ability to carry troops or cargo
-able to threaten ships or aircraft with missles, as coastal defense or ranged naval conflict
- good awareness ~sensors-secure satalite communications for both onboard computer systems and communications and other purposes
-sonar/atmospheric ecolocation, Infared, radar etc..
- integratability with other forces ammo payload etc..
- able to launch UMV's via launch platforms
- wasn't mentioned before, but ability to place and clear seabased mines, mines should be storble in the cargo area
- if posible riverine use although not a must
- mount points and hardened 'deck' positions for boarding operations ala coast gaurd
-ability to hold a osprey sized air vehicle or larger for take off and landing
- secure storage during storm for any air vehicles on the craft.
- not required but a bonus dockability from underside for resupply sub via undersea thether, with airlock etc...
- ability to launch sea and airbased UMV's, ability to launch seal like operations teams, boats and submersed vehicles, via torpedo tubes.
- emp shielded and NBC resistant
- able to withstand small arms fire and secure comonents from damage as much as posible
- anti missle defences CIWACS etc.. partriot like etc.. like a missle cruiser but 'smaller' in both payload and potentially systems tubes etc..

engines must be clean and silent methane is #@
Your initial design is being taken into consideration, any modifcations are welcome to your design, we will take a look at your modules and post back if required.


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The submersible troop carrier should have the following characteristics

supercaviated design for 'fast' underwater movement.
stealth
- methane, hydrogen/oxygen or nuclear engines or other suitable design
- thether capability with surface ships from underside
-good sonar and surface awareness
- EMP nuclear resistant
- emergency surfacing and onboard compression systems to remove bends potential
- deep sea operations capability the deeper the better.
- priority of antishipping
secondary anti air
third - nuclear and other missle payload capacity
- ability to be base for seal like operations teams
- ability to fire torpedos and subsurface to air missles - or to ground etc.. as well as launch UMV's.

any other additions welcome.

ICCD uses methane as a primary fuel source, with h/o's being the second largest fuel system.

systems such as onboard recycling, biogas collectors, solar/wind generation waste compositing

no dumping is permitted by any ICCD security force ships O emissions and sustained as much as posible is always strived for. any wastes should be storable and used if posible for operations periods of two months seaborn. transfer of wastes should be posible via sideport or underside tether port. or in case of submersibles surface tetherport

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Engines: As multi fuel designs the turbines can be run on just about any combustible liquid, ranging from top grade jet fuel all the way through to vegatable oil, quoted performance/range data is for diesel.
.........
Yours
Jason McIntyre
Head of Sales
Crookfur Consultancies.

<email
To: Jason McIntyre, Crookfur Consultancies
From: Dian Casa Militar
We like your engine how much does the engine system cost...
at first glance the price of the ship seems high, can you explain the merit of paying 320 million or 285 million for bulk for the ship?
</email>
Could you explain the cost breakdown of each component so we can rationlize the $320 million?

OOC: actually thinking about it 320mil is a bit much (a type 45 is a mere 335million or so) so i will likely drop the price to about $220million most of which is taken up by the electronics systems. i have never been terribly good at coming up with more than over all prices.
Give me a day or so to coem up with soemthing, as for the engines it is unlikely they will account for any more than 10% of the total cost.

Our ships run on Hydrogen/Oxygen fuel cells and are propelled by Magneto-hydro-dynamic thrusters for maximum speed and silence.
The Mercury class vessels low draft gives it a limited Riverine capability and. Mines can easily be sotred in the cargo spaces and the Mercury features attachment points for standard mine deplyoment rails.
Mounts for deck weapons are not a standard feature due to concerns that the mounts could compromise the vessel's stealth aspect, though they can easily be included, despite the lack of standard Weapon Mounts, the Mercury class ship's design is conducive to defense from boarding attacks.

Go to Geneticon Armed Forced Engineering (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479386) and take your pick there.

Cheap, Affordable, and powerful products.

Increased hardening we can supply the depleted uranium metal if required. EMP resistance needs to be worked on
This is agreeable.

A new cockpit with robotic comparisons for the pilot so that the arms etc.. are not contained outside the cockpit area, this insures ejection is feasable.
Sadly, this is not feasible. The armor is not large enough to displace the arms and legs into the torso. Without entirely redesigning the frame, this cannot be acheived.

laser based line of site communication to be added as well as mircrowave by extending the radiowave range to infrared, and even light spectrum, falling short of xray range although we would like to be able to filter the raditation produced in the core into this system if posible, perhaps allowing a directed radiation leak.
Polonium-210 (the isotope in use) does not produce useful radiation, merely releasing alpha particles. As these can be stopped by mere tissue paper, they are harmless as a weapon and relatively useless as a means of communication, as it will be halted by a small amount of atmosphere. Otherwise, we will be able to meet your request for laser comms.

would like to use our optical chameleon system with a cooling system that is use core heat to excite matter creating kinetic energy which is transfered to peizoelectric energy the electricity is then used in a refrigeration unit to turn heat into cold.
A refrigeration unit doesn't work that way. It merely moves heat from one place to another, and not nearly fast enough to prevent damage from a military-grade laser.

Polonium with beryllium can be used to make nuclear bombs. so if we add beryllium to the mix of teh polonium core it could be configed to act as a nuclear device.
Alloying the polonium with beryllium will reduce its effectiveness as a power source, and merely create a neutron emitter, which will not create the violent fission reaction you are hoping for unless a considerable amount of uranium or plutonium is also added, further driving up the cost and decreasing effectiveness to an untenable level.

The PDA is useful for a secondary recording and backup system, composition of out of the system programming of software and personal use for the pilot, and a number of other uses.
An interface system for this PDA should be reasonably easy to add in.

Overall, with your modifications (alteration of the UWM, upgraded armor, optical camoflague, alteration of the datajack, addition of a tool kit, alteration of the sensors, and increased security measures), the unit cost is estimated to be 600,000 USD.

Our ships run on Hydrogen/Oxygen fuel cells and are propelled by Magneto-hydro-dynamic thrusters for maximum speed and silence.
The Mercury class vessels low draft gives it a limited Riverine capability and. Mines can easily be sotred in the cargo spaces and the Mercury features attachment points for standard mine deplyoment rails.
Mounts for deck weapons are not a standard feature due to concerns that the mounts could compromise the vessel's stealth aspect, though they can easily be included, despite the lack of standard Weapon Mounts, the Mercury class ship's design is conducive to defense from boarding attacks.


Is there some way perhaps to have retractable defences/mounts? regardless we will take 100 of these units upfront. the retractability is an added bonus.
we will consider this design for future purchases but may have some modifications required we will need the missle and torpedo delivery systems designed to ICCD size specifications. We are very pleased with this craft for cost economy

if 400 million will suffice then consider it done. we will continue to order 100 annually for 5 years. for a total of 2 billion for 500. modifications may be required for future years orders and cost adjustment will occur in your favour if more expensive for future modifications.. with clause for cancelation annually your choice.

Thankyou

Otagia - A new frame design is amible for us as pilot safety is a high priority. Added cost of designing this new frame hopefully can be seen as capable within the 50% price increase of the unit. Even if it is extended wider and higher, as long as more muscle can be added to compensate..
Polonium and Berylliam act as the igniter in a nuclear blast. We have recently purchased 50 short tons of of plutonium. If we can adjust the core to have a mechanism for intiating the plutonium core into place and igniting the unit, in tacticle nuke size we were invisioning 1 pound of plutonium per unit. we could also see about harnessing the plutonium as an additional power source through it's radiation output. Even if the strength of the blast changes depending on the ammount of usable material left.

The laser comm news is wonderful.

A refrigeration unit doesn't work that way. It merely moves heat from one place to another, yes that is the idea.. to harness it in a reactor.. which then superheats the material to conversion to plasma. the plasma can then be vented through a contained electromagentic pulse either to the foot jets or perhaps through the palm of the free hand. SInce the arms arn't in there anymore some ammon can be fed via the armed arm and the second one can be used for jetting.. as long as the heat is inteneral until released.. there should be an approximately equal ammount of heat on the outside of the unit if the refrideration / cooling systems are outside the plasma core. the plasma itself could be used to initiate the detonation system perhaps?


The price is stil very feasable if you can keep the price under 1 million we will order 10,000 units. for 10 billion.

EDIT: I read the critical mass of plutonium is around 7kg.. I am going to buy a second batch of plutonium which will mean I will have ample plutonium for critical mass. or around 9kg / mech.

So with this I envision an appoximate system using your skeletal frame with a larger cockpit area some reinforced sheilding and some new sensors and slightly larger calibre weapons, hopefully the bore increase doesn't reduce payload as since the design is would approximately be equivlent in size increase to bore increase.

Any issues work it out I'm ready to go at this point if it is feasable though.