NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: This is a chance for you to pose Questions to the Kraven High Command, Ic'ly, It doesn't matter if you hate or Fear Kraven, Your questions will be answered, at the same time, this will act as an Embassy thread, so If you want to form an Alliance with Kraven, or at least engage in Diplomatic Talks, then do so here, I will update this first Page with a list of Nations with Embassy's within the Supreme State, Thanks


== The Supreme State ==

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/HorusGodEmperor/Flags.jpg

The World is a Violent place, and with Violence must come an Answer, and we are that answer, We Will Answer the call with fist and blade... We Will Answer!

With this Violent world rises A New World Order!, Devoted to Peace, Prosperity and Obidience, a Safe Society for one and all...

This new World order is the Supreme State, and with it will come the Guardians of Civil Law and Order... The Capitol Police.

They will Protect and Serve, where chaos ensues they will bring about order with the brutal and swift application of resonable force, but with this force comes myth, and myth that must be answered, Why?

These questions have never been answered, and now here we stand before you now, to answer these questions, to ensure that this myth is desolved, to ensure that everyone will here our Voices and Know Our Reasons!

We bring to you now, the option to ask these questions, to end the doubt, to cast aside the lies, to cast aside the veil of Darkness....

Your Ambassadors are welcome to form Embassies with us, to establish Ties...

Our Goal is Absolute, and Our Logic Is Undeniable...

Here.. We Stand...

The High Command

--- Totalitarian Goosestepping Jackbooted Bump ---

Here's one.

Do you intend world domination?

Here's one.

Do you intend world domination?


The Supreme State's Response:

Not Domination, but rather Absolute Unification, Our Ultimate Goal is to Unify every race, every person and every nation into one Solid Entity, free from Crime, Disorder, Chaos and the Thought Criminals that spread the seeds of Hate and Terrorism.

The High Command

If I wanted to become a member of the Kraven Bloc do I just state my intentions or do I have to perform some fancy ritual?

In response:

So by "Unification" you mean destroying human lives?

If I wanted to become a member of the Kraven Bloc do I just state my intentions or do I have to perform some fancy ritual?


The Supreme State's Response:

If you wish to become part of the Supreme State, and become one of the many Slave States that now flourish under The Iron Fist of our Rule, then you may do so by openly stating your support, The Overlord State and its Slave States will then carry out the means necessary to facilitate the change in power.

The High Command

In response:

So by "Unification" you mean destroying human lives?


The Supreme State's Response:

To Completely Facilitate this Change in power, and to create the balance of The New World Order, some of the less understanding individuals, will have to make certain... Sacrifices.

The High Command

The Supreme State's Response:

Not Domination, but rather Absolute Unification, Our Ultimate Goal is to Unify every race, every person and every nation into one Solid Entity, free from Crime, Disorder, Chaos and the Thought Criminals that spread the seeds of Hate and Terrorism.

The High Command

For once your cause actually sounded justified. Until you get past the fact you'll kill anything that gets in your way and oppress those you conquer. You rape the land, burn the towns, and kill the people. Not the greatest method ever.

However, the Empire does have a question for you:
Who would you consider your biggest rival (rivals if there are more than one) in this current war? Who poses the biggest threat to you?

I have seen information in the Factbook regarding equipment that your ground forces are equipped with. However, I am wondering what sorts of aircraft does The Kraven Corporation possess?

ooc: This is sort of like iRobot in which the robots begin oppressing the citizens against their will and with violent (and sometimes deadly means) for their own benefit and safety.

Is your vision of the future a jackboot stamping on a human face, forever?

For once your cause actually sounded justified. Until you get past the fact you'll kill anything that gets in your way and oppress those you conquer. You rape the land, burn the towns, and kill the people. Not the greatest method ever.

However, the Empire does have a question for you:
Who would you consider your biggest rival (rivals if there are more than one) in this current war? Who poses the biggest threat to you?


The Supreme State's Response:

At the Moment we have no threats, we see no one as a threat as We will not allow our Goal to be stopped, our Goal is Absolute and our Logic Undeniable, no one will change this fact, Automagfreek and the Invasion of the Kraven Mainland was only a minor set back in the Ongoing Campaign of Kraven and The Supreme State.

The High Command

Dear Kraven High Command,

Do you think we Tocrowkians are cool?

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

OOC: Somebody's a little proud happy. :p

Instead of becoming a slave state (OOC: and losing out on Toopoxican goals) Toopoxia would like to become an Ally of Kraven, and possibly settup an embassy within it's borders.

The Supreme State's Response:

At the Moment we have no threats, we see no one as a threat as We will not allow our Goal to be stopped, our Goal is Absolute and our Logic Undeniable, no one will change this fact, Automagfreek and the Invasion of the Kraven Mainland was only a minor set back in the Ongoing Campaign of Kraven and The Supreme State.

The High Command

All right, rephrased, who do you see as most likely to cause the largest setbacks?

I have seen information in the Factbook regarding equipment that your ground forces are equipped with. However, I am wondering what sorts of aircraft does The Kraven Corporation possess?

The Supreme State's Response:

The Supreme State uses a variety of Aircraft, mainly Kraven produced and maintained VTOL Attack craft and Assault VTOLS, these are primarly designed to support ground forces and provide limited air superiority Cover, however The Supreme State is looking to improve and Update its Airforce, so that it is brought in line with the capabilities of the ground forces.

The High Command

Is your vision of the future a jackboot stamping on a human face, forever?


The Supreme State's Response:

Humanity will have to make some Sacrifices, Brutal control methods are a must to keep inline a chaotic and disorganised world, for our Goals to be acheived it is a must.

The High Command

The Supreme State's Response:

Humanity will have to make some Sacrifices, Brutal control methods are a must to keep inline a chaotic and disorganised world, for our Goals to be acheived it is a must.

The High Command
A "yes" would have sufficed, thank you.

The political and civil service members of the Ollish Foriegn Department had given great thought to this release from Kraven. After a day of rangling, compromise and argument they had finally decided on the following message;

TRANSMISSION TO KRAVEN

"Screw you, arseholes!!"

END TRANSMISSION

The political and civil service members of the Ollish Foriegn Department had given great thought to this release from Kraven. After a day of rangling, compromise and argument they had finally decided on the following message;

TRANSMISSION TO KRAVEN

"Screw you, arseholes!!"

END TRANSMISSION
Hehe, last time someone tried to do something like that, they're communication network got taken over.
And then the thread got retconned *squints at pythogria*

The political and civil service members of the Ollish Foriegn Department had given great thought to this release from Kraven. After a day of rangling, compromise and argument they had finally decided on the following message;

TRANSMISSION TO KRAVEN

"Screw you, arseholes!!"

END TRANSMISSION


The Supreme State's Response:


This nation here, has proven our point in three simple words, for Humanity to continue in its existence, nations like these must be stamped out and exterminated, it allows fools to run the government, and most probably has very lax laws on inter marital relationships, only until these nations have been wiped out, cleansed and purged from existence will humanity be truely free and truely safe from Terrorism and Chaos.

The High Command

The Supreme State's Response:


This nation here, has proven our point in three simple words, for Humanity to continue in its existence, nations like these must be stamped out and exterminated, it allows fools to run the government, and most probably has very lax laws on inter marital relationships, only until these nations have been wiped out, cleansed and purged from existence will humanity be truely free and truely safe from Terrorism and Chaos.

The High Command

Wow. Reality is crumbling. I half-agree with you.

Hehe, last time someone tried to do something like that, they're communication network got taken over.
And then the thread got retconned *squints at pythogria*

OOC: Hey...

OOC: Hey...
OOC: just kiddin

But it isn't foolish to kill people who could fight for you?

The Empire has another question (Which probably can be answered by looking in your factbook, but I'm a very lazy person.):

Who are Kraven's officers? If the CP are bred to be strictly killing machines, how do you come about officers?

But it isn't foolish to kill people who could fight for you?

The Supreme States Response:

Our Logic Is Undeniable

The High Command

OOC: Hey...

"Hey" all you like. Idiots like this need a "screw you" every now and trhen.

The Supreme States Response:

Our Logic Is Undeniable

The High Command

I deny your logic....

The Supreme States Response:

Our Logic Is Undeniable

The High Command


That doesn't answer my question, that just makes your theory look more iggnorant. How is destroying people who could fight for you locial. It's foolish!

"Hey" all you like. Idiots like this need a "screw you" every now and trhen.
OOC: He wasn't talking to you.
I'm starting to think Kraven is right about your government.
"I deny your logic"?
I bet you make a lot of Chuck Norris jokes, too.

Instead of becoming a slave state (OOC: and losing out on Toopoxican goals) Toopoxia would like to become an Ally of Kraven, and possibly settup an embassy within it's borders.

OOC: He wasn't talking to you.
I'm starting to think Kraven is right about your government.
"I deny your logic"?
I bet you make a lot of Chuck Norris jokes, too.

No not at all. I just don't like people who post in II spouting the most anti-social policies they can think of just to provoke a response.

No not at all. I just don't like people who post in II spouting the most anti-social policies they can think of just to provoke a response.

OOC: The guy IS Kraven Corporation.

OOC: The guy IS Kraven Corporation.

So that means he can act like an arsehole? Uh hu, don't think so. If he can spout shit so can I.

OOC: The guy IS Kraven Corporation.
OOC: Who's Kraven Corporation?
Seriously, you just confused the hell out of me.

That doesn't answer my question, that just makes your theory look more iggnorant. How is destroying people who could fight for you locial. It's foolish!


The Supreme State's Response:

Very well, We shall inform, the uninformed.

The Fighting force of The Supreme States are specialy Bred Soldiers, called Capitol Police, to take the soldiers of Captured territories is an unacceptable frontline force, often prone to moral faliures, and dessertion, however in our Capitol Police forces, this is not a problem.

we do however recruit people into the Kreigsmarines, soldiers who operate in direct co-operation with the Kraven Secret Police.

The High Command

So that means he can act like an arsehole? Uh hu, don't think so. If he can spout shit so can I.

OOC: I suggest you calm down. He's stating his nation's policies.

End of story. Allowed and encouraged. And how is he acting like an "arsehole"?

The Empire has another question (Which probably can be answered by looking in your factbook, but I'm a very lazy person.):

Who are Kraven's officers? If the CP are bred to be strictly killing machines, how do you come about officers?

Just making sure you see my question.

And I have a second question:

How can an Artificial Intelligence know what is best for humanity? Is our destiny not ultimately in our hands?

And if not, I have a simple question:
Why?

So that means he can act like an arsehole? Uh hu, don't think so. If he can spout shit so can I.


OOC: Wait... I don't understand any of this, you've taken OOC offence to something written Ic'ly. look there is a boundry between OOC and IC and you've just crossed it, I humoured you but my patience is getting thin...

So that means he can act like an arsehole? Uh hu, don't think so. If he can spout shit so can I.
Yeah, but he's saying stuff in character. You're just acting childish.
*starts taking deep breaths. breathes. something like that.*

So that means he can act like an arsehole? Uh hu, don't think so. If he can spout shit so can I.

OOC: Except that his shit makes for a fun RP. He isn't just trying to get a response, it is how is nation works and has for quite some time now (maybe since its creation, idk). You on the other are just posting your crap to get a response and be annoying. I would ask you to stop spamming his thread with your nonsensical ramblings

So that means he can act like an arsehole? Uh hu, don't think so. If he can spout shit so can I.
OOC: Thnk about it. Automagfreek's Sentiels didn't even subdue Kraven so you do have reason to worry. Most nations who have gone head-to-head with AMF have been wiped-out so...draw some conclusions from that.

Just making sure you see my question.

And I have a second question:

How can an Artificial Intelligence know what is best for humanity? Is our destiny not ultimately in our hands?

And if not, I have a simple question:
Why?

OOC: Seen iRobot?

The theory is that humans don't know what is good for them and will eventually wipe themselves out through war (i.e. nuclear holocaust). What the AI (in the movie and Kraven) is doing is subduing the human population so that they can't destroy each other... it is saving through oppression.

IT SITLL DOESN"T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

What logic is it to kill possible troops, even if you have super troops?

OOC: Seen iRobot?

The theory is that humans don't know what is good for them and will eventually wipe themselves out through war (i.e. nuclear holocaust). What the AI (in the movie and Kraven) is doing is subduing the human population so that they can't destroy each other... it is saving through oppression.

OOC: 'Fraid not but I have the gist of it.

However, what right would said AI have? Our fate is ultimately in our hands, is it not? If we want to blow the hell out of each other, we damn well should be able to blow the hell out of each other.

Instead of becoming a slave state (OOC: and losing out on Toopoxican goals) Toopoxia would like to become an Ally of Kraven, and possibly settup an embassy within it's borders.


OOC:Its late im going to sleep now, I'll get all further responses up tomorow at some points, Thanks for all those who participated and posted something worthwile

OOC: Seen iRobot?

The theory is that humans don't know what is good for them and will eventually wipe themselves out through war (i.e. nuclear holocaust). What the AI (in the movie and Kraven) is doing is subduing the human population so that they can't destroy each other... it is saving through oppression.

The AIs in the book (which was far superior to the movie, of course) had a much better solution. They just quietly manuevered society towards Utopia.

OOC: 'Fraid not but I have the gist of it.

However, what right would said AI have? Our fate is ultimately in our hands, is it not? If we want to blow the hell out of each other, we damn well should be able to blow the hell out of each other.

The AIs in the book (which was far superior to the movie, of course) had a much better solution. They just quietly manuevered society towards Utopia.

OOC: Look, I am not saying that The Father's (the Kraven AI) way of doing it is the best way or a moral way. I am not saying it is right to or not. All I am doing is explaining what his logic is...

OOC: Look, I am not saying that The Father's (the Kraven AI) way of doing it is the best way or a moral way. I am not saying it is right to or not. All I am doing is explaining what his logic is...

OOC: Oh, I know. I'm just voicing my opinion as well.

IT SITLL DOESN"T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

What logic is it to kill possible troops, even if you have super troops?
Because if those troops are fighting in the first place, whats to say they'll not fight when Kraven takes them over?

Instead of becoming a slave state (OOC: and losing out on Toopoxican goals) Toopoxia would like to become an Ally of Kraven, and possibly settup an embassy within it's borders.

The Supreme States Response:

We would welcome a Treaty between our two nations, your nation aided us in one of the various campaigns The Supreme State is currently operating in, and so we view your nation with some favour, once The Supreme State has set up a Perminant established base of Operations, your Embassy would be welcomed.

The High Command

IT SITLL DOESN"T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

What logic is it to kill possible troops, even if you have super troops?

The Supreme State's Response:

Once a Population has been pacified, the Kreigsmarines actively recruite from Citizens, most citizens decide that joining the Kraven Military rather than working in a factory, has more benefits, however, Soldiers of the former Government are generaly not permited to join any form of Military Establishment, due to the possibilities of uprisings, this may not seem like the most logical resoning behind our methods, but our Logic is Absolute.

The High Command