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The Living Colombian Thread [1872 RP]

Truitt
21-04-2006, 23:05
OOC: This will be for both my factbook, updates, and military. Diplomacy will also be done in this thread, and so will trade.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/Flag_of_Gran_Colombia.png/250px-Flag_of_Gran_Colombia.png

Brief Follow-Up History (1819-1971)

Colombia began as a seperatist movement from Spain and in 1819, the Republic of Cundinamarca (Current-day Colombia and portions of Venezuela) headed a military and economic union named Gran Colombia, spanish for Great Colombia. Joining with it were other spanish revolutionaries, Venezuela (Including some of Northern Brazil) and Quito (Current-day Ecuador).

When Two other states, Panama (Same as present-day) and Gran Quito (Current-Day Northern Peru), or Great State, became independant from Spain they too were given the option to join Great Colombia. Panama quickly accepted, being mostly Cundinamarcan (Colombian) ethnic backgrounds. In 1824, three years after Panama joined, the offer was refused by Gran Quito. A military coup came just that year, and within three weeks Gran Quito joined Great Colombia.

Map of Gran Colombia at its Height (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Location_GranColombia.png)

Its capital was, and still is, in Bogota, which was once one of the three original capitals, one for politics (Bogota), economics (Caracas), and a cultural center (Quito).

Great Colombia, or Gran Colombia, was never used offically until historians needed a way to distinguish the two. The union was often refered to as The Republic of Colombia, or by many other South American countries, The United Central American States, as it shared political histories of revolution and unitement as the United States of America. The UCAS, as it was reffered to by many politicans in Venezuela and Quito, was notably the strongest economic, political, and militaristic nation in Central and South America. It infact was a rival in economics for the United States herself at her height.

This union, however, callapsed as racial seperatists, very few, fought a long and bloody war in Venezuela. Blame was thrown all over the UCAS, and eventually caused a peaceful break-up of the union in 1831. The only united countries that remained was that Quito and Gran Quito stayed united, Colombia and Panama remained united, and Venezuela still had territorial posession on a northern Brazilian Amazon provinces, which a war was waged and ended in a cease-fire with Gran Colombia and Brazil over a Mountain's resources, which ended in victory on the UCAS' part.

Since then, Colombia waged many wars for the united Quitos (name changed in 1843 to Ecuador because the equator ran through it) and a political coup was funded by the Colombians in Venezuela in hopes to cause a pro-Colombian coalition to gain power, which it did not.

Colombia has vowed to restore the glory, and made a statement in 1865 to march into the once-members of the union itself, but it was never carried out due a socialist movement in the nation which suceeded.

And that is where the timeline drastically changes...

Colombia as of 1872

Colombia since the days of Gran Colombia has changed drastically. Welfare is in little amounts, only making make-shift housings in cities where poverty is high, which is in little areas. Most of the population lives on granted land that the Colombian government owns and pays a 10% output rate to the government, with 90% going towards themselves and market.

Capitalism is only allowed on a public scale, and the existance of multi-province chains of buisnesses are extremely rare. Almost all major sectors, including mining, petrolium, and processing of raw materials are all state-owned. Colombia heads the world in State-controlled Economies.

Its economic rating is on the topple point of Poor and Below Average, which is well above any other economy in its regions of Central and South America. Its stabilization and population's support is also excellent, as Colombia is unified except for anti-militants in Panama, which is of no importance.

Colombia is ran by a dictator, Benito Marque, who is also the Colombian Fleet's Head Admiral of which gained power due to his socialist support in the socialist revolution.

The flag of Colombia is unchanged from that of the unified union from past decades, as the plan is to re-make the union, as many of the populations supported the government and its doings, which is best represented by Colombia herself.

Economics
Population: ~4,600,000
Chief Export: Cocoa, Coffee, Rubber
Chief Import: Petrolium, Building Metals, Gold
Largest Growth Independacy: Coffee
Largest Growth Dependacy: Gold
Largest Demand (Domestic): Gold
Current Status: Stable
Current Rating: Poor / Below Average
Current Issue(s): Cannot fullfil the demand for gold by the wealthy. Cannot build enough ships that the population demands for private trade, switching such buisness to private sector is in the process. Cannot build enough roads and other infrastructure to meet population's demand. National treasury is near-dry due to infrastructural improvements. Coffee's market has jumped in Canada, America, and France, all three new customers, but has drastically plumitted in all of Europe except for France. A large deficit is expected from last year's revenue due to military spending sky-rocketing.

Current Economic Issue (That Could Ruin Colombian Market): Coffee's lack of demand and the dependacy that Colombian exporters have on it.

Colombian Armed Forces
Population in Military: ~10,000

Army
5,600 armed with Spanish Rifles (Flint-Lock)

Navy
3 Destroyers (3 Atlantic)
2 Cruisers (2 Atlantic)
1 Frigate (1 Pacific)
Ottoman Khaif
22-04-2006, 00:13
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Manarth
22-04-2006, 00:44
As a Moderator

Navy
3 Destroyers (3 Atlantic)
2 Cruisers (2 Atlantic)
1 Frigate (1 Pacific)

You should probubly take a look at the Naval Technology thread. There is no such thing as Destroyers, and it's doubtful you'd have Armored Cruisers, as the British Empire has just begun construction. Wooden Frigates though are very possible.

Things that you could have are Coastal Moniters, a Barbette (i.e. Ironclad Ships of the Line) or two, wooden ships converted into Moniters, ect.

Be sure that you also check the Economics thread, and either ask me to modify your economics (nicely done by the way) to our system or do it yourself.

As the American Player

It can't hurt to make your flag look like the U.S. flag. Even if your country is horribly corrupt and full of human rights violations... A symbolic U.S. flag and economic dependance on the US... and we'll be best friends.
Truitt
23-04-2006, 17:04
OOC: Well, my knowledge of Colombia starts at 1904, so I am sure I am a little ahead of myself. If you don't mind, could you go ahead and change all the criteria to the standard for the Economics rules? I don't have enough time this whole weekend, as I am only on for a short period of time. As to the navy, I will re-do it to just wooden Moniters, since no American nation (besides Canada and USA) really has dependacy on its fleet. I am sure someone mentioned somewhere that Gran Colombia doesn't exist anymore, and I am sure I made it clear that it doesn't in my historic review...
Manarth
23-04-2006, 19:34
OOC: Well, my knowledge of Colombia starts at 1904, so I am sure I am a little ahead of myself. If you don't mind, could you go ahead and change all the criteria to the standard for the Economics rules? I don't have enough time this whole weekend, as I am only on for a short period of time. As to the navy, I will re-do it to just wooden Moniters, since no American nation (besides Canada and USA) really has dependacy on its fleet. I am sure someone mentioned somewhere that Gran Colombia doesn't exist anymore, and I am sure I made it clear that it doesn't in my historic review...

Will do; check the economics thread (first post on OOC thread for the link) for more info.
Of the council of clan
19-05-2006, 03:44
*poke*


I've got to get in contact with you IC about building a canal, are you still playing?