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To all nations:

Geneticon is in search of a shotgun that can be used by our law enforcement. We wish the weapon to be cheap and affordable. We would like it to be pump-action with about 8-12 rounds per load to fire. We also want it to have some serious firepower with a very good range. Weight is not a problem, as long as its under like 20-25 pounds.

We will take the very best offer and award a large contract to the gun we think is the best.

Thank you,
Secretary Paul King
Department of Defense
Geneticon

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bump... come on people... i'm offering billions.

generally speakign rnage and shotguns tend not to go together unless youa re really wanting some sort of rifled slug gun version?

Oh and are you looking for a weapon that uses the huge rnage of 12gauge ammo out there or soemthing that uses it's own calibre of ammo?

generally speakign rnage and shotguns tend not to go together unless youa re really wanting some sort of rifled slug gun version?

Oh and are you looking for a weapon that uses the huge rnage of 12gauge ammo out there or soemthing that uses it's own calibre of ammo?

I don't mean the range of an assault rifle, but I would want it to atleast rival the best shotguns availble. Maybe in the 120-150 meter range.

Any ammo (as long as it's MT) is suitable.

I might be able to pull soemthing together for you, give me till monday to knock soemthign up.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385111

M53 Shotgun

The M53 Shotgun is a Remington 870 Marine Magnum. It is available in a standard variant with a full butt and barrel and a smaller version for use with assault rifles, primarily the M30. The M53 Shotgun is to provide forces with expanded and devestating firepower for CQB.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/m53.jpg

Status: In-service [A1/2]
Caliber: 12 gauge x 70mm
Action: Pump
Fire Mode: Semi-auto
Overall Length: 38.50" [A1]; 17.00" [A2]
Barrel Length: 18.00" [A1]; 10.00" [A2]
Weight: 7.50 lb. [A1]; 5.75 lb. [A2]
Magazine: 6 rounds [A1]; 3 rounds [A2]
Rate of Fire: 2 rounds per minute [A1]; 3 rounds per minute [A2]
Effective Range: 45 meters [A1-shot]; 100 meters [A1-slug]; 4.50 meters [A2-shot]; 18 meters [A2-slug]
Muzzle Velocity: 404 meters per second [A1-shot]; 579 meters per second [A1-slug]
Underwater Shoot: No
Chamber Pressure: 11,500 psi
Equipment Availabilities: Laser, flashlight
Cost: $600
Service Life: 15,000 rounds

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M55 Automatic Shotgun

The M55 Automatic Shotgun is an indigenously produced SPAS-12 Shotgun. The M55 is used primarily by prison guards and law enforcement officals. The M53 Shotgun remains a staple of military use but the M55 can be alternatively used. The M55 is not an automatic weapon, per say, but instead it can be fired using two modes. It allows for the traditional pump action and can utilize a semi-automatic action. The M55 has a folding buttstock for asssistance with short areas and storage.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/m55.jpg

Status: In-service [A1]
Caliber: 12 gauge x 70mm
Action: Pump action or gas operated semi-automatic
Fire Mode: Semi-auto
Overall Length: 27.95" [folded]; 41.00" [unfolded]
Barrel Length: 21.50"
Weight: 9.63 lb.
Magazine: 8 rounds
Rate of Fire: 4 rounds per minute
Effective Range: 40 meters [shot]; 95 meters [slug]
Muzzle Velocity: 381 meters per second [shot]; 488 meters per second [slug]
Underwater Shoot: No
Chamber Pressure: 11,500 psi
Equipment Availabilities: Laser, flashlight, flash suppressor
Cost: $1,000
Service Life: 30,000 rounds

I offer these two, the M55 being newer and semi-automatic, in a way, whereas the M53 is your standard pump action.

M90 shotgun( standard army shotgun for special forces)

Power,loud,pump action magazine-fed firing a 8 gauge magnum(3.5)rounds with stong recoil.Devastatin at close range in confinded quarters. it come with a flashlight mountied under the barrel

We would reccomend the FN Tactical Police Shotgun. It can be purchased at our storefront by following the link provided on my signature. It can also be found here: http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/sg_tactical.htm


Thank you for your interest.


Respectfully,

Jonathan T. Barnes
CEO and President of Military Armament Company, Incorporated

1.. :!: M101 Super-Nova Shotgun $1000
2.. :!: M102 Street Cleaner Auto-ShotGun $1600
3.. :!: M12 MasterKey Shotgun $600
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M101 Super-Nova Shotgun
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/Nova.jpg
Name: M101 Super-Nova
Designed by: Benelli/PD joint project (Italy,Tyrador,TPM)
Caliber: .08 Gauge
Action: Pump-Action
Total Weight: 3.2kg
Magazine capacity: 8 round tube magaizne
Rate of fire: aprox. 65 rounds per minute
Effective range: 200-300 meters
This the most powerful pump-action shotgun on the market, borrowing design aspects from the Benelli Nova, this is an entirely new weapon. It accepts a variety of attachments and comes with an aimpoint red-dot sight.(reflex 2d sight)
Price
$1000
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M102 Street Cleaner Shotgun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/STRTCLNR.gif
Name: M102 Street Cleaner
Shotgun Caliber: .08 Gauge or .12 Gauge
SMG Caliber: .45 ACP or 9mm Parabellum
Action: Automatic
Total Weight: 10 pounds
Magazine capacity: .12/.8 gauge = 12/10 round drum | SMGs = 30 round clip
Rate of fire: Shotgun=240 RPM SMG=900 RPM
Effective range: 200-300 meters
The Street Cleaner Auto-Shotgun/SMG combines the Protecta/StreetSweeper auto-shotgun with the MAC-10/11 Sub-Machine gun. This weapon is invaulable in CQ combat. We recommend these for Spec Ops, SWAT teams, and Elite Infantry. It comes with a reflex 2d sight, folding stock. and can mount a bayonet and sling.
Price
$1600
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M-12 MasterKey Double Barrled Shotgun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/M-12.jpg
Name: M-12
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix
Made by: Phoenix Dynamix
Action: Single
Total Weight: 6lbs
Range: 200 meters
Gauge .08
Capacity 2 rounds, 6 to 10 can be held externaly
The MasterKey .08 gauge shotgun fires either AP(armor piercing) or soft point slugs. It can fire one barrel at a time or both at once. It is a perfect secondary weapon to be issued to your forces who require the knockdown power of a shotgun, and dont want to carry alot of wieght.
Price
$600
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bump...

are there any other submissions before I make a decision.

OOC: Sorry for the delay in getting these done.

IC:
Crookfur Consultancies would like to present 2 slightly different shotgun designs for your consideration.

First we have the CX-4 (working designation) Long barrel design:
http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/images/policelongbarrelshotgun.jpg
Model: No1 CX-4 Long barrel
Operation/fire mode: pump action only
Round: Any 12gauge ammunition including 3.5” magnum shells
Weight: 4.7kg unloaded
Magazine capacity: 7 3.5” rounds 8 3”rounds or 9 2.75” rounds
Length: 1,170mm
Barrel length: 630mm
Rate of fire: N/A
Add-ons: Stock can be replaced with a folding version, full length top rail and side and bottom rails forward of the pump handle

Pros: long barrel for enhanced accuracy, able to use just about any 12 gauge ammuntition, high ammo load.
Cons: Unweildy, difficult to manouver in restricted spaces, heavy, slow to fully reload.

Secondly we have the CX-5 Magazine fed shotgun
http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/images/policemagazinefedshotgun.jpg
Model: No2 CX-5 magazine fed
Operation/fire mode: pump action only
Round: 3” 12 gauge
Weight: 3.4kg unloaded
Magazine capacity: Standard box: 7 rounds, drum: 12 rounds
Length: 980mm
Barrel length: 430mm
Rate of fire: N/A
Add-ons: Stock can be replaced with a folding version, optional longer barrel (up to 21”), optional rail system.

Pros: handy and easy to manouver, light, high ammunition capacity (with drum), fast to reload
Cons: restricted to 3" 12 gauge roudns only, difficult to use from a prone position.

Costs: both versions can be purchased for about $850, production rights are also availble.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10844536&postcount=12783

Yo Gene, take this and send it to me ASAP.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10844536&postcount=12783

Yo Gene, take this and send it to me ASAP.

done.

has a shotgun been picked or do i have design a new one >_>

has a shotgun been picked or do i have design a new one >_>

Not yet... but I'm leaning toward Lay's M55 unless a better one is offered.

I can actually offer my M76 Tactical Shotgun, which is better than either my M53 or M55. The M55 I find to be a heavy shotgun when you want to really punish someone. Guard houses, prisons, air bases, security detail, etc. are great for that (hunting too) whereas the M53 is definitely a combat shotgun. The M76 actually serves to do the job of both.

M76 Tactical Shotgun

The M76 Tactical Shotgun is a new, lightweight, highly defensive shotgun manufactured by the LDC. It is a unique design meant to take into accoun the flaws of the M53 Shotgun and the M55 Automatic Shotgun, of which there were few. The M76 Tactical Shotgun offers an 18.00 inch barrel like the M53 and is only available in 12 gauge. It is made to fire both buckshot and high-powered slugs with extreme effectiveness. This seven-round magazine shotgun offers one round more than the M53 but one less than the M55; however, its accuracy is far greater than both, especially at longer ranges. Equipped with a Picatinny Rail system, the shotgun can mount sights, flashlights, lasers, and a whole host of other equipment. One of the greater features is a recoil reduction system, which is placed in the interior of the stock. The baffled tube holds 14 oz. of mercury, which raises the deltaT that the shot's impulse gets spread out over, thus lowering felt recoil. This means more accuracy and much quicker shots, especially in combat situations. Unlike the M53 and M55, the M76 has a far better corrosion resistance system and rated for marine environments for up to six weeks longer than both the M53 and M55. It is also far cheaper than either the M53 and M55 and rated for up to 25,000 rounds.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/m76.jpg

Status: In-service [A1]
Caliber: 12 gauge x 70mm
Action: Pump
Fire Mode: Semi-auto
Overall Length: 40.35"
Barrel Length: 18.00"
Weight: 6.75 lb.
Magazine: 7 rounds
Rate of Fire: 4 rounds per minute
Effective Range: 50 meters [shot]; 125 meters [slug]
Muzzle Velocity: 420 meters per second [shot]; 600 meters per second [slug]
Underwater Shoot: Yes
Chamber Pressure: 11,500 psi
Equipment Availabilities: Laser, flashlight, scope
Cost: $300
Service Life: 25,000 rounds

I can actually offer my M76 Tactical Shotgun, which is better than either my M53 or M55. The M55 I find to be a heavy shotgun when you want to really punish someone. Guard houses, prisons, air bases, security detail, etc. are great for that (hunting too) whereas the M53 is definitely a combat shotgun. The M76 actually serves to do the job of both.

M76 Tactical Shotgun

The M76 Tactical Shotgun is a new, lightweight, highly defensive shotgun manufactured by the LDC. It is a unique design meant to take into accoun the flaws of the M53 Shotgun and the M55 Automatic Shotgun, of which there were few. The M76 Tactical Shotgun offers an 18.00 inch barrel like the M53 and is only available in 12 gauge. It is made to fire both buckshot and high-powered slugs with extreme effectiveness. This seven-round magazine shotgun offers one round more than the M53 but one less than the M55; however, its accuracy is far greater than both, especially at longer ranges. Equipped with a Picatinny Rail system, the shotgun can mount sights, flashlights, lasers, and a whole host of other equipment. One of the greater features is a recoil reduction system, which is placed in the interior of the stock. The baffled tube holds 14 oz. of mercury, which raises the deltaT that the shot's impulse gets spread out over, thus lowering felt recoil. This means more accuracy and much quicker shots, especially in combat situations. Unlike the M53 and M55, the M76 has a far better corrosion resistance system and rated for marine environments for up to six weeks longer than both the M53 and M55. It is also far cheaper than either the M53 and M55 and rated for up to 25,000 rounds.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/LDC/m76.jpg

Status: In-service [A1]
Caliber: 12 gauge x 70mm
Action: Pump
Fire Mode: Semi-auto
Overall Length: 40.35"
Barrel Length: 18.00"
Weight: 6.75 lb.
Magazine: 7 rounds
Rate of Fire: 4 rounds per minute
Effective Range: 50 meters [shot]; 125 meters [slug]
Muzzle Velocity: 420 meters per second [shot]; 600 meters per second [slug]
Underwater Shoot: Yes
Chamber Pressure: 11,500 psi
Equipment Availabilities: Laser, flashlight, scope
Cost: $300
Service Life: 25,000 rounds

I'm liking this.

Me too. It really is a great system. I took the Nova from Benelli and really went to town on it. However, don't be dissuaded, the M55 Automatic Shotgun is a real killer. I use it in my Galapagos prison, Nova Prospekt. The guards there really love it.

Underwater shooting is an issue of keeping cartridge dry as well as having atmospheric oxygen provided for the explosion. This can only be solved by hacing an airtight chamber or using specialized ammuntion. Corrosion is not the problem. I'd also like to know how you put all those snazzy features together for 300$ when a single shot .22 rifle with iron sights only would cost more -_-

Underwater shooting is an issue of keeping cartridge dry as well as having atmospheric oxygen provided for the explosion. This can only be solved by hacing an airtight chamber or using specialized ammuntion. Corrosion is not the problem. I'd also like to know how you put all those snazzy features together for 300$ when a single shot .22 rifle with iron sights only would cost more -_-

It may cost him more, but I'm getting a huge bargain in my opinion.

Can you make something better and offer me something cheaper? If you can, I'll buy from you.

It may cost him more, but I'm getting a huge bargain in my opinion.

Can you make something better and offer me something cheaper? If you can, I'll buy from you.
I am already writing up stats and making the custom pic :) although im not gonna lie its gonna cost more than 300$

I am already writing up stats and making the custom pic :) although im not gonna lie its gonna cost more than 300$

ok... I'll wait for it.

Underwater shooting is an issue of keeping cartridge dry as well as having atmospheric oxygen provided for the explosion. This can only be solved by hacing an airtight chamber or using specialized ammuntion. Corrosion is not the problem. I'd also like to know how you put all those snazzy features together for 300$ when a single shot .22 rifle with iron sights only would cost more -_-

Mass production. We're fielding just under 1,000,000 of them for the military and at least that much for law enforcement. Civilians can also buy a special version. The RL Benelli Nova is only 300 something dollars, as listed on their website. The features I have added aren't all that much more.

M107 Combat/Police Shotgun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/gr2.jpg
Name: M107 Combat Shotgun/Police
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix Contract Entry for GE
Caliber: .08/.10/.12 Gauge available
Action: Pump-Action / Semi-Auto
Total Weight: 9 pounds loaded
Magazine capacity: 8 round tube magaizne
Effective range: 260 meters
This is the latest shotgun from Phoenix Dynamix designed to fill a contract It was designed using input from TPM's for Spec Ops, SWAT teams, and weapons designers from all departments. It features a sheathed rail system which can accept a reflex 2d sight, m68 aimpoint sight or night vision sights. The stock can be unbolted and replaced with a folding stock without using tools. and it can mount a bayonet or tactical flashlight under the barrel. Laser dots, extra shells and a sling can also be mounted with ease.
Price: $1,000 (special low price!)

We might also add that all TPM weapons can fire underwater using "TPM Special Ammo" (available at the main store) although that would be hardly a concern for police units, since the housing is sufficent to keep the action dry in simple rain conditions which is most likely the worst water conditons police would face.

Mass production. We're fielding just under 1,000,000 of them for the military and at least that much for law enforcement. Civilians can also buy a special version. The RL Benelli Nova is only 300 something dollars, as listed on their website. The features I have added aren't all that much more.
But the features you listed would still bring it up to at least twice the price, even with mass production. But then again you are free to sell them for cost and not make more than a few cents profit, I don't understand while your supposedly "worse" shotguns cost more than your "better" one.

But the features you listed would still bring it up to at least twice the price, even with mass production. But then again you are free to sell them for cost and not make more than a few cents profit, I don't understand while your supposedly "worse" shotguns cost more than your "better" one.

R&D, limited use, etc. All of the "features" are really just carried over from the Benelli Nova. The corrosion resistance, rail system, and underwater capabilities are all that has been added, that is about it. That isn't that much money. The other models aren't indigenously produced either, they are a Remington 870 Marine Magnum and a SPAS-12, which were produced in far lesser numbers and were not of any indigenous nature. The lessons from those two helped with the M76 meaning that a lot of the R&D on those wasn't necessary for the M76.

That 300 meters is a slug shot, right? It also looks like it has a very short barrel. On average, slugs don't go much further than 125 yards without becoming ineffective. SABOT slugs can give you a little further. 300 meters is quick long for a slug, especially if it has a short barrel. If it has a very long barrel (i.e. more than 18") it would be maybe possible but, at the same time, make the weapon bulky.

M107 Combat/Police Shotgun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/gr2.jpg
Name: M107 Combat Shotgun/Police
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix Contract Entry for GE
Caliber: .08/.10/.12 Gauge available
Action: Pump-Action
Total Weight: 9 pounds loaded
Magazine capacity: 8 round tube magaizne
Effective range: 300 meters
This is the latest shotgun from Phoenix Dynamix designed to fill a contract It was designed using input from TPM's for Spec Ops, SWAT teams, and weapons designers from all departments. It features a sheathed rail system which can accept a reflex 2d sight, m68 aimpoint sight or night vision sights. The stock can be unbolted and replaced with a folding stock without using tools. and it can mount a bayonet or tactical flashlight under the barrel. Laser dots, extra shells and a sling can also be mounted with ease.
Price: $1,000 (special low price!)

We might also add that all TPM weapons can fire underwater using "TPM Special Ammo" (available at the main store) although that would be hardly a concern for police units, since the housing is sufficent to keep the action dry in simple rain conditions which is most likely the worst water conditons police would face.

So this was created just for me?

If so, would it be possible to buy the exclusive domestic production rights? (No one else can buy them or use them)

So this was created just for me?

If so, would it be possible to buy the exclusive domestic production rights? (No one else can buy them or use them)
yes and yes


@Layarteb the 300 meters happens to be for the armor pierceing slug and that range was stolen from a real life DARPA designed AP slug that was developed for that underbarrel lightweight shotgun attachement, but the round was never produced.

yes and yes


@Layarteb the 300 meters happens to be for the armor pierceing slug and that range was stolen from a real life DARPA designed AP slug that was developed for that underbarrel lightweight shotgun attachement, but the round was never produced.


O O O...link me to that I want it!

What's the barrel length on this?

I know of the FRAG-12, which would go 200 meters. Is that it or something better?

Any particular reason why neither of the Crookfur Consultancies offerings, both of which met all of your requirements and weren't particualrly expensive, haven't been short listed?

As for PM's new design you are looking at at least a 20" barrel judging by the tube magazine capacity.

its a .pdf which used to be on www.darpa.mil
I can not find the article anymore it was designed to be compatible witht he XM-26 lightweight shotgun system and was tested with a mossberg 500 series



It's a 16 inch barrel and holds 8 rounds in the intergral underbarrel tube magazine which is entirely doable considering u would have one round above the tube itself

its a .pdf which used to be on www.darpa.mil
I can not find the article anymore it was designed to be compatible witht he XM-26 lightweight shotgun system and was tested with a mossberg 500 series



It's a 16 inch barrel and holds 8 rounds in the intergral underbarrel tube magazine which is entirely doable considering u would have one round above the tube itself

It might be the FRAG-12. That's a pretty good system there. I forgot what size barrel they tested on with 200m so I'll dig that up but I got a 18.00" barrel so I can get the same range as you and a little more ;).

We have adjusted the maximum range to 260 meters since the 300 meters was achieved in laboratory conditons on a partially assembled, prototype M-107
;p

Yes it is the FRAG-12. Mighty little beast.

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=741

Yes it is the FRAG-12. Mighty little beast.

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=741
yes, that is probably the weapon the round I was thinking of was ultimatly incorparated into but it is the not the system which I saw orignally on DARPA. The darpa one was fired from a mossberg pump action.

this could be the weapon the round I was thinking of was ultimatly incorparated into but it is the not the weapon which I saw on DARPA. The darpa one was fired from a mossberg pump action.

Yeah this can be fired from a lot of stuff. Actually they list the barrel for the AA-12 as between 13 and 18 inches and the effective range at 200 meters so perhaps it doesn't get a little more range for a bigger barrel, though that wouldn't make much sense.

Nice, I just sold 1,100,000 shotguns with another 100,000 possibly coming. Man do I feel the money come rolling in. The more we make the cheaper they get and the more profit I get.

I have made my decision. Order coming soon.

(OOC: I'll order after dinner.)

Coolio.

:: eagerly awaits ::

Guess I lost. Good fight Phoenix.

Guess I lost. Good fight Phoenix.

Actually no...

You both won.

I have decided to purchase 100,000,000 M-76s.

Total Cost is 30 billion USDs.

I also have decided to purchase the exclusive domestic production rights. If acceptable, I will buy them from Pheonix for 30 billion USDs.

Money is wired to both of you upon confirmation.

The truth is, they're both great weapons which serve different uses, and I want them both. So I'll buy them both.

Oh well. Figured you had TG'd the winner. In that case, yes I can supply 100 million of these for $30b. The LDC doesn't offer production rights though.

Oh well. Figured you had TG'd the winner. In that case, yes I can supply 100 million of these for $30b. The LDC doesn't offer production rights though.

That's ok... I only want the rights to the weapon he made.

Thank you, please deliver them as soon as possible.

They shall be shipped over as they become available. I'll try to ship up to one million at a time so it goes a little quicker. They'll be rolling off the assembly lines like nothing.

Actually no...

You both won.

I have decided to purchase 100,000,000 M-76s.

Total Cost is 30 billion USDs.

I also have decided to purchase the exclusive domestic production rights. If acceptable, I will buy them from Pheonix for 30 billion USDs.

Money is wired to both of you upon confirmation.

The truth is, they're both great weapons which serve different uses, and I want them both. So I'll buy them both.
Order confirmed as long as he The Phoenix Milita's Military and Phoenix Dynamix's security forces can still make use of them.

Order confirmed as long as he The Phoenix Milita's Military and Phoenix Dynamix's security forces can still make use of them.

Yes... only Geneticon and The Pheonix Militia are allowed to use this design. Thank you.

BTW... I need an arms section for my storefront. Are you willing to create some weapons for us to contract and sell there?

BTW... I need an arms section for my storefront. Are you willing to create some weapons for us to contract and sell there?
Now this is something I would do only if they were joint products, to be sold in both my store and yours.

Now this is something I would do only if they were joint products, to be sold in both my store and yours.

Done deal. Just create the weapons and I'll buy the selling production rights for each as we go along. That way I can have some arms at my storefront, and you can get paid. We have a double chance of selling the weapon at two different storefronts.

One of which you get the full profit for each one sold, the other of which you get a partial profit.

It makes sense all the way around.

OK

btw if you could put a request for weapons systems i will go alot faster, otherwisr I will just go with pistol /smg/ assault rifle /sniper rifle/ lmg

OK

btw if you could put a request for weapons systems i will go alot faster, otherwisr I will just go with pistol /smg/ assault rifle /sniper rifle/ lmg

I don't understand what you mean by this.

I need weapons of all types, those standards are good.

bump... any news yet Pheonix?

OOC: hold your horses now, I may be fast but I'm not that fast!!!!





Now introducing the AR-67 Line of assault weapons!

These weapons come standard in 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm(.270), 6.993mm(aka 7mm Minuteman), 7mm (.276 Pedersen) or 7.62mm (Soviet). Modified weapons chambered in .30-06 and 7.62mm NATO will be made available for small custom orders only and will not share all design aspects.
And here they are.
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AR-67 Assault Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/ar67.jpg
Name: AR-67
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: PD Select Fire (auto/burst/semi-auto) (gas operated rotating bolt)
Total Weight: 9lbs
Maximum Range: 800 meters
Rate Of Fire: 666 rounds per minute
Capacity 36 round mag
The AR-67 is an all new weapon designed to fire the "intermediate" class of ammuntion which has become popular as of late. More powerfull than 5.56mm and lighter than 7.62mm NATO, the rounds that the AR-67 can be chambered in range from 6.5mm Tyradorian to 7.62mm Soviet. The rifle is a classic bullpup design which allows for accuracy a M203X 40mm belt fed grenade
launcher or standard M203 can be added easily and it seamlessly fits into the housing of thegun.A number of sights and scopes as well as the standard 7.4 inch extra-long M-9 bayonet is availble. This version comes with a permanently attached iron sight topped with a rail system for mounting ACOG or aimpont sights. tac lights, lasers and other scopes. Side rails are also included for night vision accessories such as infa red lasers.
Price
$1500

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AR-67A1 Carbine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/ar67a1.jpg
Name: AR-67A1
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: PD Select Fire (auto/semi-auto) (gas operated rotating bolt)
Total Weight: 7.5lbs
Maximum Range: 690 meters
Rate Of Fire: 666 rounds per minute
Capacity 36 round mag or 42 round side mounted drum mag
The AR-67A1 is simply a shortend version of the Assault rifle but with more attachment points for accessories. This version comes with a foward grip, full rail system with detachable iron sights and mouting lugs for a bayonet, tac light and lasers as well as almost any type of optical device out there.
Price
$1450
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SR-67 Sniper Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/sr67.jpg
Name: SR-67
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: PD Smooth Action Semi-Auto
Total Weight: 9.4lbs
Maximum Range: 999 meters
Capacity 12 round magazine or in an emergency 36 round mag(its uncomfortable to use bipod with the 36 rd mag)
SR-67 Sniper Rifle is an fullyaccurized AR-67 with a PD Smooth Action© self-loading, semi-automatic firing mechanism, bipod and a longer, heavier barrel with a muzzle break. The basic iron sight is intergral but there is a rail system with backup old-style clasp and threads for mounting of every type of sniper scope out there.
Price
$1625

Stay tuned for a machine gun based on this design.

OOC: hold your horses now, I may be fast but I'm not that fast!!!!





Now introducing the AR-67 Line of assault weapons!

These weapons come standard in 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm(.270), 6.993mm(aka 7mm Minuteman), 7mm (.276 Pedersen) or 7.62mm (Soviet). Modified weapons chambered in .30-06 and 7.62mm NATO will be made available for small custom orders only and will not share all design aspects.
And here they are.
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AR-67 Assault Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/ar67.jpg
Name: AR-67
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: PD Select Fire (auto/burst/semi-auto) (gas operated rotating bolt)
Total Weight: 9lbs
Maximum Range: 800 meters
Rate Of Fire: 666 rounds per minute
Capacity 36 round mag
The AR-67 is an all new weapon designed to fire the "intermediate" class of ammuntion which has become popular as of late. More powerfull than 5.56mm and lighter than 7.62mm NATO, the rounds that the AR-67 can be chambered in range from 6.5mm Tyradorian to 7.62mm Soviet. The rifle is a classic bullpup design which allows for accuracy a M203X 40mm belt fed grenade
launcher or standard M203 can be added easily and it seamlessly fits into the housing of thegun.A number of sights and scopes as well as the standard 7.4 inch extra-long M-9 bayonet is availble. This version comes with a permanently attached iron sight topped with a rail system for mounting ACOG or aimpont sights. tac lights, lasers and other scopes. Side rails are also included for night vision accessories such as infa red lasers.
Price
$1500

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AR-67A1 Carbine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/ar67a1.jpg
Name: AR-67A1
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: PD Select Fire (auto/semi-auto) (gas operated rotating bolt)
Total Weight: 7.5lbs
Maximum Range: 690 meters
Rate Of Fire: 666 rounds per minute
Capacity 36 round mag or 42 round side mounted drum mag
The AR-67A1 is simply a shortend version of the Assault rifle but with more attachment points for accessories. This version comes with a foward grip, full rail system with detachable iron sights and mouting lugs for a bayonet, tac light and lasers as well as almost any type of optical device out there.
Price
$1450
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SR-67 Sniper Rifle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/sr67.jpg
Name: SR-67
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: PD Smooth Action Semi-Auto
Total Weight: 9.4lbs
Maximum Range: 999 meters
Capacity 12 round magazine or in an emergency 36 round mag(its uncomfortable to use bipod with the 36 rd mag)
SR-67 Sniper Rifle is an fullyaccurized AR-67 with a PD Smooth Action© self-loading, semi-automatic firing mechanism, bipod and a longer, heavier barrel with a muzzle break. The basic iron sight is intergral but there is a rail system with backup old-style clasp and threads for mounting of every type of sniper scope out there.
Price
$1625

Stay tuned for a machine gun based on this design.

OOC: Cool stuff... sorry for being so impatient.

For evrything you create, I will pay you 100 billion USDs initially, plus you'll recieve 25% of all profits on the items. Is this acceptable?

sounds good to me

HOLD ON!! Before you decide, look at mine!!
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SG-1A Riot-control "Blaster" Shotgun
http://www.geocities.com/mdor_site/images/equipment/shotgun1.jpg
Description:
The Blaster is a futuristic riot-control shotgun. Firing small packets, the 'batons' as they are called house an explosive battery that releases a low yield electrical charge on impact. The combination of kinetic force and stunning discharge are ample to stun, and render harmless, most humans, biobreeds, and robotic systems for a period of several minutes. Used in the same manner as a shotgun, the Blaster is quite popular in riot situations and prefered by most Roman MPs. Recent, more compact hunting versions of the Blaster have been appearing in the hands of freelance Roman hunters all over Lemuria. The infrared aiming scanner makes the weapon particularly good for stealth or night operations.
Type: Non-lethal riot control weapon
Operation: Gas
Type of fire: Single shot
Rate of fire: 24 rounds per minute
Sights: Infrared aiming device
Feed: 30 round tubular magazine
Weights: 4.3kg (Empty); 4.8kg (Loaded w/60 rounds)
Cost: $1,500 ea

SG-2 Shotgun
http://www.geocities.com/mdor_site/images/equipment/shotgun2.jpg
Description:
hotguns are common weapons. The standard contemporary shotgun has a variable sized breech capable of adapting to most shotgun shell sizes. While a single cassette would need to be loaded with identical shells, after being fired the shotgun would need to be manually (though easily) adjusted to accept other shell sizes. Reloading a shotgun seems to be slower than most other firearms, but the adaptability, reliability, and common use of these weapons make them very popular. Most armed troops use shotguns as an alternate weapon to mix with standard sidearms and firearms.
Type: Shotgun
Operation: Recoil
Type of fire: Selective, Single shot, 3 round burst or full automatic
Rate of fire: 40 shots per minute (Automatic)
Sights: Fixed, non-adjustable, aperture/post
Feed: 10 round removable casette
Weights: 3.8kg (Empty); 4.6kg (Loaded)
Cost: $2,000 ea

PPG-3
http://www.geocities.com/mdor_site/images/equipment/PPG-1.jpg
Description: N/A
Type: Plasmic discharge shotgun
Operation: Electrostatic discharge
Type of fire: Selective, Single shot or 3-round burst
Rate of fire: 50 rounds per minute (Single) or 125 rounds per minute (Burst)
Sights: Adjustable, notch/post
Feed: 25 round removable tubular plasma cartridge
Weights: 3.7kg (Empty); 4.6kg (Loaded)
Cost: $3,000 ea

HypnoTrancer Battle Rifle
http://www.geocities.com/mdor_site/images/equipment/hypnotrancer.jpg
Description:
-Rome- has many cybernetic drones functioning within it's borders and a special type of weapon was created to deal with the many threats they might encounter. The HypnoTrancer projects a beam of intense psychic and sonic energy that floods the target with sensory overload. Depending on the physical resistance of the target, it could be knocked out for quite some time (up to 60 minutes). Robotics and those heavily implanted with cybernetics (Bio-systems (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10837358&postcount=3)) tend to be more resistant.
Type: Battle rifle
Operation: PsychoSonic projection
Type of fire: Single shot
Rate of fire: 12 rounds per minute
Sights: Fixed, Non-adjustable, notch/blade
Feed: 30 round removable battery pack
Weights: 3.5kg (Empty); 4.3kg (Loaded w/60 rounds)
Cost: 15,000

Sorry Rome... already paid out two other guys. Nice weapons though, but they are too futuristic as well.

No, they aren't too futuristic for you! Well....actually, this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10837437&postcount=15) will explain it better.

No, they aren't too futuristic for you! Well....actually, this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10837437&postcount=15) will explain it better.

Sorry... Geneticon does not believe time travel is possible.

Very well, believe what you want. Don't be surprised if one day some of our star ships shows up on a "diplomatic" mission....*wink* haha :)

OOC:
most peopel consider Time Travel a godmod. I don't support it and almost 99% of NS doesn't support it.

Look here buddy, when you're on MY level of tech, YOU can tell ME that its godmoding ok? But until then, BACK OFF! My nation is VERY Technologically Advanced.

OOC:
most peopel consider Time Travel a godmod. I don't support it and almost 99% of NS doesn't support it.

Definitely part of that 99%.

Any more weapons coming Pheonix?

Yes
MG-68 Intermediate Machine Gun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/thrhr.jpg
Name: MG-68
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: Safe/Fully Automatic (gas operated rotating bolt)
Total Weight: 16.8lbs
Maximum Range: 660 meters (point target); 800 meters (area target w/bipod)
Rate Of Fire: 666 rounds per minute
Capacity: 32 round mag, 120 round drum, 150 round box mag, 500 round box, 1,000 round belt.
Price
$1650
Features quick change barrel and intergral bipod...

Yes
MG-68 Intermediate Machine Gun
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/thrhr.jpg
Name: MG-68
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix for Geneticon-Joint
Caliber: 6.5mm, 6.62mm/6.66mm, 6.8mm, 6.993mm, 7mm or 7.62mm
Action: Safe/Fully Automatic (gas operated rotating bolt)
Total Weight: 16.8lbs
Maximum Range: 660 meters (point target); 800 meters (area target w/bipod)
Rate Of Fire: 666 rounds per minute
Capacity: 32 round mag, 120 round drum, 150 round box mag, 500 round box, 1,000 round belt.
Price
$1650
Features quick change barrel and intergral bipod...

Looking awesome so far...

Any more? Or should I add what we already have?

One more thing, can you give me the code for text you used in each design. You can do that by putting PHP code around it. Thanks.

Like this:

I like waffles

just quote the post and take out the [quote] tags...

and ill do a handgun but u can add these for now