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First off, Im sorry if this is in the wrong place. I really didnt know where to post it where it would be correct and gain the exposure of a certain group on Nationstates in order to answer my question. Sorry if it is once again.

Anyway, I have a question about organising the military.How would you got about dividing my 3million odd men into some sort of structure? Would I simply go 1st Infantry Division, 2nd etc., or would it need to be different to be realistic? How many men should be in each "division"?

Your help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

If this isthe wrong place let me know and I will turn it into an RP post.

First off, Im sorry if this is in the wrong place. I really didnt know where to post it where it would be correct and gain the exposure of a certain group on Nationstates in order to answer my question. Sorry if it is once again.

Anyway, I have a question about organising the military.How would you got about dividing my 3million odd men into some sort of structure? Would I simply go 1st Infantry Division, 2nd etc., or would it need to be different to be realistic? How many men should be in each "division"?

Your help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

If this isthe wrong place let me know and I will turn it into an RP post.

The structure of a military is known as its TOE or in long version Table of Organization and Equipment: Authorized levels of personnel and major equipment in formations and their subunits. You can break it down into divisions, you could also do Brigades-Regiments-companys so on. Or you could just list the Corps.

The two best places to start would be here (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/army/unit/toe/index.html) and here (http://www.army.mil/organization/unitdiagram.html)

They give you a break down per each unit and list additional unit types.

If you have anymore questions I be glad to answer them the best I can.

For a small nation like yours (and mine) the regimental system is better that the divisional one. My nation is 10 million and obviously can't support a large army of 1 or 2 million.

Yes, but mine is 231 million, and therefore I thought it could. My reasoning was the US has a population of about 290million if i am correct, so by the time I got it all sorted out Deltara would be at around 290million as well.

Start off with a Battalion or Regiment of 800-1000 men each.
Put 3 together to make a Brigade
Have 3 Brigades to make a Division.

Have an Anti Tank Regiment
An Anti Aircraft Regiment
Some form of Heavy Machine Gun Battalion
Recon Regiment of Armoured cars
3 Arty Regiments
A Ammunition Battalion
A Petrol Battalion
Other base units...

Sorry that is so rough.

You need to organise in a basic pyramid structure, starting at the bottmom with companies of, say, 100 or 200 men, and using between 3 and 8 to make up the next unit in size, going up in increments to batallion, regiment, brigade and/or division. You can use support units to attach to combat units, either at regiment or brigade/division level (eg, Military police, Air Defence, Medical, Command, Recon etc.)

One question, on the second link in your post, United Earthlings (and thanks for the info while Im at it), what exactly is a "ARNG Division"? Thanks in advance.

One question, on the second link in your post, United Earthlings (and thanks for the info while Im at it), what exactly is a "ARNG Division"? Thanks in advance.

Army Reserve National Guard. or in short form ARNG. :)

and if you have anymore questions I be glad to answer them to the best of my ability.

Thanks for all the help you have given me so far, but a few more questions (your not getting rid of me that easily :p ).


So the ARNG are the reserves basically?
I have only divided mine (see factbook for how its done) into divisions, because I thought that the corps and field army would be always changing; am I right in this assumption?
Does the diagram mean that there should be 2 integrated divisions for every 10 active divisions, and 8 ARNG divisions? That seems like an awful lot of reserves. Does integrated mean a support unit by any chance?


Thanks in advance.

You could always try to read my Military Factbook; It contains info on how my military is organized, quite to RL examples. Check it Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=474309)

Thanks for all the help you have given me so far, but a few more questions (your not getting rid of me that easily :p ).


So the ARNG are the reserves basically?
I have only divided mine (see factbook for how its done) into divisions, because I thought that the corps and field army would be always changing; am I right in this assumption?
Does the diagram mean that there should be 2 integrated divisions for every 10 active divisions, and 8 ARNG divisions? That seems like an awful lot of reserves. Does integrated mean a support unit by any chance?


Thanks in advance.

1. Well yes and no. The National Guard Units are a multi purpose unit. They were orginial created way back during WW2 for should war break out a trained reserve of personnel would be available to start the foundation of new divisions. Today they have taken on a unique role of their own. Thier mostly used for civil defense and support (think natural disaters- Katrina). However, they're were/are National Guard units serving in Iraqi, I'm not 100% sure but I thinks that the first time National Guard units have been sent overseas.

2. again yes and no. War is always evoliving. It takes on a life on its own. Armys have to meet the changing nature of warfare and that leads to how an army is organized. Some change little, some change alot. For example- those units serving in Iraqi and Afgan have undergone many changes, while those say servering in the states or in Europe have pretty much stayed the same for the last 2-8 years.

3. No, but the diagram shows how the United States Army is organized. You can copy that for your Army down to the letter or just use it as a basis. Its really up to you. Integrated means part/half of the division is on active duty and the other half in the reserves.

I hope that answer your questions.

Thanks so much for that, its much appreciated!