1010102 unviles the "cheney" shotgun
the need for an automatic shotgun in the 1010102ian army was clear. 1010102ian designers went to work and designed the cheney shotgun named for the designer, dave cheney.
cheney shotgun
length 40 inches long
weight 7.5 lbs
ammo cap. 12
range 150 feet best effective range
rounds per minute 60
gauge 8
That's not funny.
In fact, this could be considered spam.
Pythogria
20-04-2006, 04:42
That's not funny.
In fact, this could be considered spam.
I support you in that accusation.
what thats the best gunn desinger in my country dave cheney.
Still not, funny, and still spam.
how many other weapon unveils by other nations have there been? why aren't they spam?
Because they aren't three sentences long, and don't have a stupid joke in them, mostly.
Blakhole
20-04-2006, 04:52
umm... wat time r u in??
anyways, a military using a shotgun?? shotguns dont fire a round a second, very unlikely, impossible to be honest!!
Obviously, you know nothing about urban warfare.
Shotguns are largely ineffective on open ground, yes, but in a close quarters environment (such as a building), they are effective because of their close range shot dispersal (an obvious advantage) and their ability to blow doors down. Plus, fully automatic shotguns such as the Jackhammer can fire more than one round per second, IIRC.
the need for an automatic shotgun in the 1010102ian army was clear. 1010102ian designers went to work and designed the cheney shotgun named for the designer, dave cheney.
cheney shotgun
length 40 inches long
weight 7.5 lbs
ammo cap. 12
range 150 feet best effective range
rounds per minute 60
gauge 8
Also, there's no way in hell you'll be able to have buckshot be effective at half a football field away.
Obviously, you know nothing about urban warfare.
Shotguns are largely ineffective on open ground, yes, but in a close quarters environment (such as a building), they are effective because of their close range shot dispersal (an obvious advantage) and their ability to blow doors down. Plus, fully automatic shotguns such as the Jackhammer can fire more than one round per second, IIRC.
Indeed. The United States used them to great advantage in WWI, and they were a key asset in trench warfare. The Germans said the Americans were fighting dirty with shotguns, yet they were the ones with gas...
Also, there's no way in hell you'll be able to have buckshot be effective at half a football field away.
this is my first personal weapon design. so maybe 75 feet.
Pythogria
20-04-2006, 05:07
this is my first personal weapon design. so maybe 75 feet.
Um...
No.
Maybe like, 10...
Um...
No.
Maybe like, 10...
No, shotguns do get decent range. My effective range is about 20 yards with a 12ga and a choke for turkey.
Pythogria
20-04-2006, 05:09
No, shotguns do get decent range. My effective range is about 20 yards with a 12ga and a choke for turkey.
Shows how much I know.
But 75 feet?
Um...
No.
Maybe like, 10...
1 quick question: have you ever shot a shotgun? a 10 gauge can hit target the sige of a man at 60 feet with full choke.
Indeed. The United States used them to great advantage in WWI, and they were a key asset in trench warfare. The Germans said the Americans were fighting dirty with shotguns, yet they were the ones with gas...
Germany:
U-Boats
Jets
V-1/2 Rocket Systems
Wolfenstein
Really, they have no right to cry "foul play".
Germany:
U-Boats
Jets
V-1/2 Rocket Systems
Wolfenstein
Really, they have no right to cry "foul play".
Well, that was WWII, but still the general idea.
Pythogria
20-04-2006, 05:12
1 quick question: have you ever shot a shotgun? a 10 gauge can hit target the sige of a man at 60 feet with full choke.
No, but really, you will not be using shot guns at 75 feet.
Will you?
I'd think an assualt rifle is better in that role.
Jets
V-1/2 Rocket Systems
Wolfenstein
that was WW2 he said WW1
1 quick question: have you ever shot a shotgun? a 10 gauge can hit target the sige of a man at 60 feet with full choke.
That's nice.
Imagine trying to hit a man-sized target at 60 feet with full choke without the pristine firing conditions of the range, and instead trying to squeeze off an accurate shot while someone is trying to kill you in a hazy, noisy battlefield.
Well, that was WWII, but still the general idea.
Yes, that Germans fight dirty.
Those wankers.
That's nice.
Imagine trying to hit a man-sized target at 60 feet with full choke without the pristine firing conditions of the range, and instead trying to squeeze off an accurate shot while someone is trying to kill you in a hazy, noisy battlefield.
good point but with a slug its possible just like shooting an assault rifle. after removing the choke.
good point but with a slug its possible just like shooting an assault rifle. after removing the choke.
Actually, a slug is much less accurate than an assualt rifle round due to the fact that shotguns are smoothbore (decreasing the round's stability, which impacts the accuracy of the shell), and that a shell is quite heavy compared to a normal 5.56mm or 7.62mm round normally used in assualt rifles.
Add to the fact that most assualt rifles have RPM rates ten times this shotgun, along with more than twice the ammunition capacity and far more effective range, I'd have to negate the use of a solid slug in anything other than hunting large game.
Add to the fact that most assualt rifles have RPM rates ten times this shotgun, along with more than twice the ammunition capacity and far more effective range, I'd have to negate the use of a solid slug in anything other than hunting large game.
They're pretty damn good with large game, too. :p
Actually, a slug is much less accurate than an assualt rifle round due to the fact that shotguns are smoothbore (decreasing the round's stability, which impacts the accuracy of the shell), and that a shell is quite heavy compared to a normal 5.56mm or 7.62mm round normally used in assualt rifles.
Add to the fact that most assualt rifles have RPM rates ten times this shotgun, along with more than twice the ammunition capacity and far more effective range, I'd have to negate the use of a solid slug in anything other than hunting large game.
wrong
A shotgun is a firearm typically used to fire a number of small spherical pellets. The shot is usually fired from a smoothbore barrel; another configuration being the rifled "slug" barrel, which is used to fire a single projectile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun#Common_uses
wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun#Common_uses
...special rifled slug barrels
Yep...
You know, I think you have a problem admitting that you may be wrong about something.
Why waste money on a rifled shotgun when you can just as easily purchase an assualt rifle?
You know, I think you have a problem admitting that you may be wrong about something.
Why waste money on a rifled shotgun when you can just as easily purchase an assault rifle?
no i just know shotguns. i inly put the link so you could see that you are wrong.
Why waste money on a rifled shotgun when you can just as easily purchase an assault rifle?
because shotguns are good in urban combat and seeing that most combat happens in urban areas it is not a waste of money.
because shotguns are good in urban combat and seeing that most combat happens in urban areas it is not a waste of money.
No.
Shotguns are effective in close quarters, not general urban combat. A man on a rooftop can just as easily gun down a shotgunner as he could a rifleman.
Arkapolis
20-04-2006, 05:56
wat is wolfenstein?? nd y would v1/2 be dirty?? they were standard rockets!! jackhammers fire 240 rounds per minute coz they r actually firing 10shots at a time... as for urban warfare, if its indoor only then shotguns may be used, otherwise its submachineguns or assault rifles... even in iraq (baghdad): urban warfare, the US army is using an assault rifle the M16, the standard weapon is never a shotgun...
Submachine guns are a poor choice for mainstream military use due to their lack of stopping power and poor effective range. The only reason special forces and counterterrorist teams use them is because they're easily silenced and smaller than normal assualt rifles.
LEARN TO WRITE ENGLISH!
LEARN TO SPELLCHECK!
Shotguns are ineffective.
The description is utter crap.
You give no description or mechanical method for how it works either.
First things first....the barrel is over 3 ft MAJOR no-no!
The weight is WAY too little for the rounds it has and the recoil would bust your arm and the gun!
Shotguns have poor range. They are cheap and ineffective, but deadly.
Rework your stuff PLEASE. Why do I always have to be the voice of reason here, 1010102?