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OOC: First of all... The Kingdom of Danteri (it used to be a kingdom...) has recently had a new king ascend to the throne - King Danteri the Seventeenth. As part of his plans for the nation he has inherited, he has instated conscription - always an ominous sign - and, is ordering hundreds of cannons to be forged in the foudries of Nord-Lund. It seems that this monarch is planning something...

Danteri City, The Kingdom of Danteri:
The officers rode fine horses, their uniforms resplendant, shinning in the sun. They wore the green and white of the Imperial Danteri Army, with enough gold braid to make any commoner a rich man. Such were the ways of Danteri.
The old king didn't ride - he hardly could, after all, could he? Instead, King Danteri the Sixteenth was carried through the streets of his capital in state, wearing the crown for the last time. Like he always had in life, he wore the sort of clothes that one might have expected a wealthy commoner to wear - a black silk suit, so subdued that he would hardly have had to change his clothes for mourning.
His son wore a uniform - that of one of the famous Royal Guard hussars, although one that bore no insignia of rank... save that of the golden crown at his throat. The old king had never worn a military uniform in all his life, had hated the thought of wasting money on petty wars... his son, it seemed, did not share his disdain for all things military.
As the crowd reached the cathedral, it became obvious what this was to be - it was to be a warrior's funeral, like the old kings had had. Although it was his right as king, the old king had never insisted on assembling the Royal Guard for any affair, no matter how severe... his son had ordered them assembled on the first occassion at which he could.
No sooner had the earth fully covered the coffin of the old king than the new one was rushing off, saying that he had urgent buissiness... he had cannons to order built.

Thousands of young men from the farms and the towns are being conscripted into the Danteri army. The Imperial Army already has a large number of men in it considering the long time since the last war, but thousands more are being conscripted. Also, to equip these thousands, the Absolute Monarch King Danteri the Seventeen has raised taxes throughout his kingdom. Many complain bitterly, and he is already an extremely unpopular figure with his people... but, when he has the cannons on his side, what need does he have for their love?

- Taxes have been raised throughout Danteri.
- Tens of thousands of men have been conscripted into the Danteri Army - the Danteri Army can now be considered to be on a war footing.
- Rifles, kits and uniforms for all of the conscripts are being assembled through government contracts with major production centers. This represents a major investment of the resources of the Danteri government, and a sure sing that they're Up To Something...

The average infantry man in the Imperial Danteri Army is a conscript. He is marched off, trained, then made to fight for a cause he often knows nothing about... as such, he suffers from poor morale.
The training given to the average Danteri soldier, however, is excelent. They are brutally disciplined, and so will follow most orders... they also know a bit about fighting with knives, bayonets and their rifles. Accuracy is given some consideration, but isn't really focused on.
As for their kit:
- Uniform: This is before the days of camouflague, after all, so: The average Danteri soldier wear a bright "emerald" green uniform jacket, made of wool in the case of the average soldier, silk in the case of the officers. The rest of their uniform is white wool or silk.
- Helmet: The Imperial Danteri Army equips its average soldier with a spiked helmet similar to those worn by German soldiers in WWI.
- Kit: The miscilaneous kit of the average soldier consists of an ammunition pouch made of leather, a leather belt and bandolier, a canteen made of tin, a backpack of leather for rations etc., and a bedroll.
- Boots: The boots worn by Danteri soldiers are steel-shod heavy leather monsters. They are, however, good for marching. Each soldier has two pairs - one for dress, one for marching.
- Weapons: The secondary weaponry carried by Danteri soldiers varries widely, a farmer might carry a scythe, a woodsman an axe, a miner a pick, and so on. However, all soldiers are issued the following:
- Rifle: The primary weapon of the Imperial Danteri Army is the Nord-Lunder rifle: it is a rifled weapon, with a long-ish barrel, that fires a bullet with about .35 caliber. This rifle is more similar to the Prussian Needle Gun than to any other weapon, and has a fairly middling rate-of-fire. It also has a bayonet mount...
- Bayonet: The Imperial Danteri Army bayonet is a wicked looking eight inch blade, serrated, with a sharp point at the end. The bayonet can be used as a knife in a pinch, but is more often used by attaching it to the bayonet mount of the rifle, then using the rifle as a pike that can also, handily enough, fire bullets. When the bayonet is attached, there is a slight loss in accuracy with the rifle.
- Machete: A sort-of sword used for cutting wood (and enemies), this blade is fairly common issue.
- Secondary Weapons: Each soldier has their rifle and bayonet, yes, but they also carry a variety of secondary weapons. Only officers, cavalry men and the occassional lucky common infantry soldier has a pistol. Most carry secondary weapons they are at least mildly familiar with - as I said before, farmers with scythes, miners with picks and so on. Also, each man has a sort-of sword - more like a machete, really, which they use for a variety of purposes - but, also for cutting down men.

As for the cavalry, they basically carry the same gear, except:
- Boots: Their boots are designed for riding, not marching.
- Uniforms: All cavalry uniforms are silk, unlike the uniforms of the common infantry men. Most cavalry men are a good deal richer than their unmounted comrades - they have to be able to affoard their horse...
- Secondary Weapons: All cavalry men carry at least two or three pistols, plus a sabre. (They also still have their machete, but most just use such a blade for cutting wood...)
- Primary Weapon: Rather than the long-barreled rifle of the infantry, these mounted riders carry carbines, cut to be easily fit into a saddle holster, easily drawn and fired one handed. However, as the carbines are still bolt action, some cavalry men favor a rarer but still common weapon: a sort-of military shotgun, like a sawed-off double-barreled shot-gun, which also fits into the saddle holster.
- Horses: There is no delicate way to put this - Danteri horses are of terrible quality. Only the Royal Guard cavaly has anything like good quality mounts, and many cavalry units mostly fight unmounted, as their mounts are too inferior to be of much use in a charge. As such, the cavalry charge has fallen out of favor in Danteri.

Artillery: Prior to the war, there wasn't much of an Imperial Danteri Army artillery core. Now, the Danteri Army has several hundred guns of various types. The varieties of guns are as follows:
- Siege Guns: These are big, heavy, guns that have to be deployed, and are mostly only used for sieges. The varieties in the Danteri Army are as follow:
- 60 pounder: Biggest in the army, capable of reducing a stone wall to a ruin in just a few hits, as for what it does to men... well, it isn't pretty.
- 20 pounder ("mortar"): A lighter siege gun, mostly used for firing explosive shells over the walls - this is a "mortar", and so fires a shell which falls to the ground to explode.

- Field Guns: these are lighter pieces, used in the field, to harrass and disperse the enemy.
- 12 pounder: The standard cannon of the Imperial Danteri Army, this cannon can smash the infantry squares of the period with massive effect.
- 12 pounder ("mortar"): Another standard variant of this era, the 12 pounder "mortar" acts like the 20 pounder, but on a smaller scale. This one still fires shells that fall to earth, as opposed to cannon balls that travel in a line.
- 6 pounder: The lightest variety of cannon, this cannon is used for light work - and for rapid movement. It can be rapidly redeployed, so is used in a "close support" role.

I'm currently in a RP of this era already, but this concept of yours seems interresting also... I'd just like to hear some more details. I mean, what are the rules? Are we supposed to enter as with our own populations? Do you have a map? And what exactly is the tech level, it's not like there were bolt action magazine rifles in the Franco-Prussian war.

OOC: I mis-entered it - remember the Prussian Needle Gun? I meant to imply something like that, not a bolt-action magazine rifle. Sorry for the confusion! As for the map, I have a map of Danteri, and could make one with all of the nations that want to get involved sharring borders. That way, naval warfare won't play that big a part... although, there could always be an "England", off on its own... as for tech level, I was just thinking about that era before World War One, where there were big iron ships but... no machineguns! You know what I mean - cavalry charges, lines of infantry... all that stuff.

One thousand men shouted in unison, going through the various hand-to-hand combat drills of the Imeprial Danteri Army. They were sweating, tired, miserable... but, under the watchful eyes of some 100 experienced soldiers who had been called in for use as training officers, they continued to strike out the drill, smashing wooden enemies with the heavy metal rifles they trained for close combat with. The idea was, if they could do the move a hundred times with a heavy metal weapon, they could certainly do it with the far lighter weapon they would wield in the field.
Over all of this madness, the King stood, resplendant in a shinning green silk dress uniform. Beside him stood the Minister of the Army, newly appointed from the rank of Colonel in the cavalry, and the rather flustered training officer.
The training officer spoke, finally, saying:
"These men will be well trained, m'lord, on that I stake my life! They'll be ready m'lord, I'm certain they will!" The King gave him a patronizing smile, then replied, with sarcastic tone,
"Well, dear friend, there are some things you don't seem to know. Just because my father did not come here, did not care about the military, does not mean that I do not care about it. You should call me 'your majesty'... now, remember that, or else. As for the men being ready... they had better be. They will be needed soon enough..."

The frontier was quiet at night - no one had tried anything in years, and so peace had dulled the senses of the guards. Now, however, Danteri spies, clad in unmarked black silk, slipped through the marshes and streams without a noise.
They had a special task, set out for them by their king himself - they were to go into the territory of another nation, and spy out the locations and strengths of his border guard units... paying special attention to the locations of any artillery.
With stealthy step and stride, the scouts, the spies, crossed the fens, and made good progress for the nearest town. They had a lot of work to do before dawn.

Danteri City was lit as though it were day with the light of ten thousand torches as the 1st Imperial Army Infantry Division marched through the streets, torches lifted high, rifles at their shoulders.
It was almost midnight, but a crowd had still assembled, a massive number of people, children running about and singing, babies lifted so that they might see the soldiers marching out of the city... it was a festive occassion, patriotic banners were everywhere, girls blew kisses at the officers, and laughed at little jokes as though it were a dance, boys rushed along, trying to match the pace of the march, admiration clear on their faces as they stared at the ranks in their fine uniforms of emerald green.
After the ten thousand soldiers on foot came one hundred Royal Guard Hussars, resplendant in emerald silk, their horses adorned with garlands. Many of the cavalry men were singing the national anthem, and that song soon spread - within minutes, the entire city seemed to be singing. It was a stirring occassion, true... but it was also another reminder of just how unused to war the people of Danteri were. If they were used to war... they wouldn't have sang when their sons and fathers and brothers marched off to fight and perhaps be maimed or killed.
The troops were massing on the fronteirs, and war seemed near.

The scouts returned at dawn, clothing tattered, panting from exhaustion. They were greeted by a tight-lipped officer in the standard emerald of the Danteri Army, who nodded to each in turn, before accepting their reports. He had stayed up all night waiting for their return - he now faced a long day writting reports and preparing lists of enemy forces, but he was almost exstatic - war would soon be here, and he would have helped to play a role in the formation of the tactics that would bring the Kingdom of Danteri its swift and total victory.

OOC: Sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes...
The tinny, independant, Dukedom of Justinia would be the first target of the Imperial Danteri Army. As such, King Danteri the Seventeenth couldn't help but smile when he stood on a hill top and watched the battle bellow - here the Danteri cavalry were charging, a rare sight, and breaking the Justinian infatry squares. It was a slaughter - already, the fighting was quite a ways inside the Dukedom of Justinia, and the small river town of Breachton was only a mile away... if Breachton fell, then the way would be open for a full push towards the Justinian capital within a few days.
As was, things were progressing just fine - the Justinians were under-prepared for war, and as such didn't have the artillery with which they might hold their own. It was really a matter of the rate at which the artillery train could advance - the cavalry had swept aside any serious opposition within hours, and now all that remained was for the artillery and infantry to attack Breachton and force its surrender... victory seemed certain now, as the more powerful nations nearby did nothing, and... for King Danteri the Seventeenth, as he stood on a hill and watched his men win an easy victory, war seemed glorious.

- The Dukedom of Justinia has been invaded, and seems likely to fall. So far, some 1,500 Justinians have perished for only 300 Danteri dead as the Danteri cavalry sweeps aside the poorly trained and poorly equipped Justinian militia units they have so far met in battle.

Thirty thousand Danteri soldiers marched towards Breachton in an orderly fashion, forming squares and firing their rifles at anything that moved. Danteri cavalry from the 1st Royal Guard Hussars circled, cutting off the fleeing collumns of refugees, then running them down, hacking with their sabres and firing their pistols. Hundreds of civilians are dead, their bodies laying in the sun... reports of mass slaughter of those civilians who remained behind in the outer farming communities has drawn some concern - apparently, the Danteri soldiers are engaging in systematic looting...
Near Breachton, the Danteri army met its first serious opposition - Justinian soldiers in civilian garb hid in trees, firing at the oncoming Danteri army, snipping officers. They withdrew before they could be caught... but that didn't stop the Danteri soldiers from taking out their anger on the local civilians. Hundreds were executed by firing squads, their bodies bayoneted to be sure they were dead, then thrown into the nearest well or river in an attempt to poison the water supplies. By the end of the second day of the invasion, King Danteri the Seventeenth and his army had almost reched Breachton, and had suffered only about 200 casualties.

Cannons boomed, men and horses screamed... the sounds of a real battle were everywhere for the first time. Breachton was a mid-sized town on a river, with only three bridges... its populace had mostly either fled or was now fighting.
On the Danteri side of the river, men were screaming as the Justinian cannons on the other side smashed apart the fragile wooden houses they had taken cover inside of.
The Danteri soldiers had taken the half of the town that they now held with relative ease - now it was a matter of crossing the river when two of the three bridges had been blown apart with gun-powder.
The Justinian soldiers were brave, they were fighting for their homes and their families... but, the Danteri soldiers had better weapons and training, and it showed.
Three times the Danteri infantry tried to force their way across the last bridge that still stood, as their mortars lobed shells into the Justinian defensive positions... three times, they were forced back with heavy, bloody casualties. Things weren't going accoarding to plan.

OOC: I am liking the idea, i may join in.

Sure I'll join, could you by chance give me some more materials to work with, like a map? Could I use Moorington and it's 1 billion pop or my own created country that just shares it's name? A map would be nice also, did I mention a map? Yeah need a good map.

I'm interested! Just give us a map of the region so we can claim territory, etc. Thanks

LOL, your the same mate who posted in the one WWII thread for Finland, I see some humor in it. Once we get up our countries I'll try not to attack you ;) . Hope you stay around.

LOL, your the same mate who posted in the one WWII thread for Finland, I see some humor in it. Once we get up our countries I'll try not to attack you ;) . Hope you stay around.


Yup, that was me! Too bad that died. I was looking forward to playing that too.

"Once we get up our countries I'll try not to attack you "...Ok, but if we transfer our military numbers (minus technology), my country has a 150,000,000 man army...fighting me won't be easy :)

I was just joking anyhow ;) , WWII RPs are just now what they used to be. I am trying to get a good formula going and one of these days I am getting all the people who are interested and seem competent to join one. The farthest I have gotten is to do these things...

1.) Get a starting dat and how fast everything goes.
2.) State rules, a lot of them.
3.) Make sure you have a good core base of people, drifters can pick up the other smaller nations.

So if anyone is looking over do these things, or not.

So Wanderjar, have any good WWII RPs anywhere?

I was just joking anyhow ;) , WWII RPs are just now what they used to be. I am trying to get a good formula going and one of these days I am getting all the people who are interested and seem competent to join one. The farthest I have gotten is to do these things...

1.) Get a starting dat and how fast everything goes.
2.) State rules, a lot of them.
3.) Make sure you have a good core base of people, drifters can pick up the other smaller nations.

So if anyone is looking over do these things, or not.

So Wanderjar, have any good WWII RPs anywhere?

Right now i'm RPing in the fairly popular Chitzeland Conflict. It's kind of a break off of the Kraven Corp. Wars, since i'm at war with Pudu in it, and he's a Kraven Ally. If you wanted to do a WWII RP, i could do it well. I have background in history (i.e Know all the battles, weapons used, read pretty much all the books on the conflict, etc.) I'll look forward to contributing to it, whenever you get another one started :) . I know you were kidding. It's kinda hard to transfer emotion through a message, but i was trying to be funny. It just takes a while to get used to my sense of humor :D

Also, if you start a new one, and redo it from the previous,

A. I claim Germany!!!

B. Don't make it have to be by the book, by that i mean History book. The most fun RPs are the ones that I, not the mod, choose what i'm doing. (By "I", i'm not meaning myself per se, but rather the individual player. Just had to clear that up....i'm sure some smart ass trying be funny would call me on that! :D ) For example, If someone took over Cuba, and made it become Fascist and take over the entire Carribean, and then South America, and then North America even, then let them! Or another interesting concept i heard from a video game (Hearts of Iron 2), where there is a Confederate Revolution in the South, and America faces this problem. Also combined into it which could make it interesting is a Southern Adolf Hitler against blacks (no racist connotation intended) (Yes i realize there is a book series done on the same concept. If you all didnt know that, then i just made a fool out of myself.) Or even more interesting, Adolf Hitler not doing the Holocaust, but rather using the additional manpower as loyal German troops....interesting concept actually, never thought about that one much...

C. Some rules should prohibit Atom Bombs. I liked that in your previous RP. The last thing i'd want to happen is that all of a sudden, some new RPer decides to randomly Nuke Berlin....unrealistic, uncool. I know that goes against my earlier statement, but you have to have boundaries, or it will be a catastrophie.


I hope that gives you some more ideas, i dont mean you have to use any of those Scenarios mentioned, i just used them to say, let the RPers choose where they want to lead the story. Not necessarily by the book.

OOC: All right, I have a map... I just have no idea how the heck I'm going to post it... how do you post maps, etc.?

All right, I've already claimed the nation marked Danteri, obviously, but... there are others still up for grabs. Who wants what, because I've got:

- An island nation, sort-of like England.
- A big northern nation (think Russia in terms of geography)
- A little northern nation caught in between Danteri and the big northern nation.
- A southern nation that has a nice bottle-necked border with Danteri.
- Others could exist, but they'd have to be island nations or on another continent.

All right, I've already claimed the nation marked Danteri, obviously, but... there are others still up for grabs. Who wants what, because I've got:

- An island nation, sort-of like England.
- A big northern nation (think Russia in terms of geography)
- A little northern nation caught in between Danteri and the big northern nation.
- A southern nation that has a nice bottle-necked border with Danteri.
- Others could exist, but they'd have to be island nations or on another continent.


Heres what you do. If you have a scanner, scan the image, and it will be on your computer. Then use the insert image icon to upload it into the thread.

I want the Britain-esk Island.

bump

Okay, I tried to post, but it didn't work. I don't have a way to put the map on the internet, so that might be the problem... I don't know... I'll try to figure it out, but the links I made didn't work...

Of course, Wanderjar, you now have the "placed" island.

Okay, I tried to post, but it didn't work. I don't have a way to put the map on the internet, so that might be the problem... I don't know... I'll try to figure it out, but the links I made didn't work...

Of course, Wanderjar, you now have the "placed" island.

Ok, go to the Help forum then, and ask them how to do it. I'm sure the Mods there will be more than happy to help.

The fighting on the last bridge that still stood had been reduced to a vicious melee. Dozens of soldiers from each side lay bleeding upon the bridge, rifles and pistols fired as men screamed and hacked at each other with knives, axes and other weapons.
It was a horror, with the dead piled deep, trampled beneath the living... men died in terrible ways, and the fighting continued... as the Justinian guns sat useless for want of powder.
Even as the melee continued, the gunners desperatly emptied the powder pouches of fallen soldiers, trying to improvise enough to be able to fire the guns again... they had just suceeded, when the melee slowed, as the Danteri withdrew... and a full charge of the Royal Guard Hussars came thundering down towards the Justinians.
Just as the cavalry men had come close, firing their carbines and pistols, the cannons boomed - grape shot tore man and horse into bloody bits. It was like something from hell.
Yet... for all the slaughter, the Justinians held, as the famed Royal Guard cavalry fled in disorder. It was a fine day for Justinia, and a sad day for Danteri, as their finest cavalry fled in disarray... Justinia held. That was all that mattered to the defenders.

Will do. Thanks!

"My liege," General Heinrich Liendenburg said, taking a bow, "The Forces of Danteri have taken a terrible beating by the Justinians."
"That does not befund me. Our isolated location prevents their matters from concerning us. Until we have recieved word of their request for treaty, we are effectively, neutral." Emperor Christoph Baker was firm in his statement, and the General walked away after another bow.

Ok, i'm claiming it first:

My Military's uniform colors are Light Grey, with the standard white straps that all militaries of the times had. The leadership is a Monarchy.

Our national symbol however is the Phoenix. (I'm changing the flag from the Communist one, to a more Germanic type flag, since our modern roots are German.)

Here goes nothing:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/Danteri/danterimappast.jpg
(Hope this works...)
OK, Wanderjar, you can give some more basic details as soon as you'd like.

So, is my country the one to the left, isolated from the rest of the map?

Just want to know where is where....

OOC: How do we determine our strenght of military? i've never done a past tech RP before
Do i need to find a past tech store??


I just want to do a good job on this one....

- First of all, your nation is the one marked "other nation three". That's the one on the right.
- As for tech, you can just look at a text on the armies of that era, and choose how you want your men equipped. Cost isn't so much of an issue with anything short of ships and cannons, but I would suggest you look at what was standard for the era we're going over, then make your decision.

Breachton was burning. When the Royal Guard Hussars had fallen back, the order had been given for the mortars to fire their shells into the city to try to start fires... they had suceeded.
Now, the Danteri infantry advanced through the burning streets, firing at anything that moved, killing men and women and children and dogs with dispassionate violence.
Here and there, a Justinian soldier, or a civilian with a hunting weapon, would fire a few shots at the advancing Danteri soldiers... they were almost always met with a hail of gun fire that silenced them quickly.
The bridge had fallen quickly, without much of a fight, as its defenders fled. Now, it was a time of advance, as the Justinians fled.
King Danteri the Seventeenth himself rode through the streets with a bodyguard of Royal Guard Hussars. He sniffed the smoky air, savored the scent of roasting flesh from the dead abandoned to burn, and smilled - victory was near, and war was glorious. Somehow, while he thought this, he managed to ignore the wounded Danteri soldiers limping back to their camp, the wounded Justinians being bayonetted, the civilians screaming as they were lined up against walls and shot... if they were lucky.
He had won, and that was all that mattered to him.

The firing squads worked through the night. No one was spared - every single Justinian man, woman and child was killed. The Danteri soldiers didn't really loot the city very thoroughly - they apparently were under orders to leave everything other than perishables for the Danteri Army Quartermasters office to loot.
The fleeing refugees from Breachton, who ammounted to about thirty thousand mostly unarmed civilians, were hunted down by the Royal Guard Hussars, under the personal command of King Danteri the Seventeenth. He gave a simple order:
"No pity, no mercy, no remorse."
With that, the refugees fates were sealed. Out of thirty thousand men, women and children, not one escaped death that night. When dawn came, King Danteri the Seventeenth ordered the chaplain to hold a mass giving thanks to God for their great victory, before the bodies of the thirty thousand murdered civilians were thrown into a gully and burned.
As for the remainder of the Justinian military, they have fled to their capital, where they're setting up a new defensive perimiter. Duke Justin the Fifteenth has petitioned any and all foreign powers to intervene on his behalf - however, at this point, the Dukedom of Justinia looks to be doomed, if left on its own.

The city of Justinia, the capital of the Dutchy of Justinia, was built like a fortress, a single block of stone, once a small mountain, carved and cut into a fortress. Of course, that had been done in the middle ages, but still... it was an impressive fortress.
Needless to say, the town itself wasn't nearly so well defended - they had only a hastily-built earthen rampart to huddle behind while Danteri artillery used the houses and shops for target practice.
Hundreds died in the town, crushed in rubble, smashed by a cannon ball, torn apart by schrapnel from a mortar shell... it was a horror.
The Justinian army sat safely inside their fortress, watching as their capital was reduced to rubble and gravel. It wasn't fun.
The Justinian artillery was scattered, and of nowhere near the quality displayed by its Danteri counterparts, but still, it fired back, sending mortar shells and cannon balls flying at the Danteri lines in a paltry number compared to the incoming fire.
Still, even as the town burned, even as Justinian citizens died, the fortress towered over it all, the purple flag of Justinia flying over it all, as though to say, while this flag yet flies, Justinia lives.
Even with the latest and greatest in military technology, it would take the Danteri a long time to reduce the walls of the citadel... and while they were doing that, someone might, just might, come and save them.

The war had settled down into a definate pattern - a few ships of the Danteri navy made sure no one got out by sea, while the Danteri and Justinian artillery dueled.
The Danteri Army was busy digging massive siege works, digging trenches, setting up pallisades, constructing berms... they worked throughout the day, then slept in the mud at night.
No progress was being made at taking the Justinian citadel, but... the rest of Justinia was now under Danteri control, the people slaughtered almost to a man.
At this point, it looks like Danteri faces a long siege in Justinia.

Justinia is holding out, however futiley, fighting bravely as their cities and towns burn... they have said that they will never surrender, and they seem to mean it...

The Danteri artillery boomed, hurling iron death towards the Justinian citadel at high speeds... this war, which had so quickly proceeded up until this point, had become a slow war, a trench war, where no one could advance. It was the sort of war that had no glory, no victorious charges... just death from artillery or the far off sniper...

OOC: Anyone else want in? Three slots still open...

Hey! Could I make a new island grouping. I really don't mind where you put it just as long you try to make it along the lines of.....

1.) 4 Major islands (Think Japan)
2.) An assortment of little-bitty islands.
3.) Pretty close to the "Russian continent".

OOC: As for Moorington, check the map - how about the "Archipelago"?

The Justinian Citadel still stood, a defiance of all the might of the Danteri army. It was no longer so beautiful a sight - its surface had been scoured with artillery fire, and was now a mere shadow of what it had once been.
As for the siege works, they were impressive - a massive network of trenches, with dug-in artillery sites and berms...
The fighting had become a long, slow, war... neither side could force a victory with any speed at all, and so the fighting continued. With thundering booms, the Danteri artillery worked at reducing the Justinian fortress... while at the same time, the last few Justinian guns fired back in futile gestures of useless defiance.

Ill take the bottom peninsula, this seem like it could be an awesome thread. Maybe i could ally with that "England" nation?

I have to think of a name and everthing still though.

The southern peninsula is called the Republic of South Hold and is governed by a President with a seven year term. However, the president is the supreme ruler of the country during his reign (i.e.: he makes all the laws and rules absolutely).

The Army uniform is jet-black with silver rank insignias.

The Navy has a white uniform with silver insignias.

btw: if you guys dont want me to hav this nation, just tell me.

The Flag will be a silver climbing eagle holding a sword in one claw and a scale in the other. This will be set on a field of black

quick naval question:

Do we have steamships?

OK, The Appalacians can have the southern nation. No one's claimed it yet, after all...
As for naval vessels, all fleets have big "iron clads", although they're slow and unwieldly enough that some wooden ships are still in service for purposes other than direct, in the "line of battle" combat.

The first Danteri Navy ships steamed into Justinia harbor under light fire from the shore-defence guns in the Justinian citadel... over the next few hours, their guns reduced those gun emplacements to nothing.
After that, more ships moved in, firing their cannons and mortars (you know, those big old "mortars" that just fire explosive shells indirectly?) at the citadel, adding to the volume of fire directed against its crumbling walls. It was clear now that this siege would last - the only question was, would someone intervene before the citadel fell?

"The Republic of Southhold must stop this unjust invasion," said President Stephen Rameus.

"Sir are you sure about this?" asked Secretary of War Samuel Grant, "We don't want to move too many units from border patrol."

"Yes, of course I am General. Send the order to the fleet, i want that bombardment stopped," he ordered crisply. With the plan drafted, 30 Monitor class ships steamed toward the embattled Dukedom.

* * *

Admiral Marco Carsten Stood on the observation deck of his flagship, the RSS Redemption and oversaw preparations to set sail. The transport ships behind him were filled with South Hold's most experienced soldiers, plucked straight from the border. He estimated almost 100,000 infantrymen were berthed in those holds. He shrugged, they must be protected no matter who they carry, he thought. This triggered one of his rare smiles.

"Give the order," he told the captain of the ship, "So it begins..."

* * *


A quick bit about my nation:

-Army Equipment (Infantry)
-Rifle: breech-loading standard infantry weapon
-Bayonet: Similar to Danteri, but without a serrated blade
-Kit: Misc. soldierly items such as canteen, mess kit, rations, small hatchet for chopping wood, Bowie knife for cutting food and enemies, etc.
-Boots: Black leather around steel sheath
(more on cavalry when I use them)

The border between Danteri and South Hold is patrolled by 3 armies worth of men. The Infantry and Artillery units of the first army have been taken for the invasion.

The spies had done their work well - the Republic of Southhold had excelent border defenses, true, but... they were only human. They had inevitable chinks, and it was these chinks in their defenses that were exploited now. The war began with a volley of artillery fire across the river Southhaven, hundreds of shots flying into the villages just across... the shelling continued without pause, meant to shock the enemy into inaction more than to hurt him, as the infantry crossed the river under the cover of the guns.

- 10,000 men of the 2nd Imperial Kriegsarmiee have launched a raiding attack against Southhold, under the cover of the 250 guns of their artillery.
(Note: This attack is being launched after the Southholders have shifted their armies around - it is launched only after it becomes obvious that they are mobilizing for war...)

- Lastly, this attack doesn't actually look that clever - the main 1st Imperial Kriegsarmiee is still in Justinia, besieging the citadel... if they can't make that citadel fall quickly, then they are going to be fighting a two-front war...

The cannons of the 1st Imperial Kriegsarmiee had finally forced a breach in the outer wall of the Justinian citadel. Now, it was simply a matter of taking and holding that breach...
Captain Harold Von Nord-Lund of the 1st Imperial Infantry Legion, charged beside his men, towards the breach. Only one man was in front of him, the standard-bearer of the unit... the gold-and-red colors of the Danteri flag fluttered overhead... then, the Justinians started firing, and men began to die...
It was bloody, as men fell and screamed and were trampled... Von Nord-Lund was the first man alive to reach the breach - he had his pistol out, and shot a Justinian through the head, bringing the purple-uniformed enemy down. He screamed, a raw, inhuman cry, and dropped his pistol, drawing his hacking sword in his left hand, his officer's sabre in his right...
The fighting was horrific at close quarters - the bodies soon piled up ten deep, as Captain Von Nord-Lund desperatly fougth eight enemies...
He had been the best swordsman in his entire academy class. He had won over thirty duels in his private life, and had been the champion swordmaster of the 1st Kriegsamiee for his entire career as an officer. He killed any Justinian who dared to face him in close quarters.
Just as he had almost taken the breach, as he stood atop the broken bodies of friend and foe alike, he saw a Justinian conscript, holding a rifle. He smilled - let the fool shoot! He was a swordmaster, a hero, he was - he never got to think the ironic word "invincible", never got to complete that thought. He might have been a swordmaster, might have been a hero, like in a story of old... but, guns kill such men as easily as they kill normal mortals. He fell onto the pile of the dead, and was forgotten, as the fighting continued.

The ten thousand men of the Second Kriegsarmiee have conducted their "raid", burning a few farms, hanging a few peasants, and fleeing back to Danteri, with the apparent point of the excercise being to show the Southholders that Danteri has some military ability...
Danteri lost 263 men. How many men were lost to the Southholders is unknown.

Marco Carsten watched as his ships lined up in the graying morning light. The transports were hanging back to escape the battle and Carsten was confident. His plan was to lure the enemy to his line with a few fast- moving frigates, and from the sound of things it was working. The sounds of battle were drawing closer and he could see the columns of smoke on the horizon.

The frigates lured the Danteri fleet right into the South Hold fleet's broadside. Carsten had "cappet the 'T'" and subsequently annihilated the Danteri fleet. Carsten ordered his fleet into the harbor and began the bombardment.

The transports moved in and the landing was successfully completed. As the army moved in, Carsten ordered the bombardment be increased.

* * *

Lieutenant Colonel Joseph Reingold urged his men forward into a charge against the Greencoats. He commanded the Third Republican Infantry Battalion of the First Army of South Hold. They had already broken into the fort but he was confident he could turn them back.

As the battle raged, the South Hold Artillery was set up, the naval bombardment continued, and the Danteri Kriegsarmiee began their ordered retreat. The intervention was a success so far, but how long would it hold?

In response to the raid, South Hold mobilized two reserve armies and moved them to the front on patrol.

They have covered all the Bridges and posted sentries along the entire river. The plan was a defensive one on that front.

The outer walls held for three hours after the death of Captain Harold Von Nord-Lund. They held as the Danterians threw men at them with wild abandon, throwing away lives like they didn't matter... by the end of those three hours, almost two thousand Danteri soldiers were dead, for only five hundred Justinians. Yet, to put it simply, the Danterians had a whole lot more men to waste, and they had achieved their goal... now, they had only to take the next four lines of walls and defenses...

Danteri, ironclads can't have thirty ten inch guns as far as I know. Nor could they have that many sixteen inch guns. Find a record of this and I will revoke this comment, but I don't think you could. they didn't have any smaller weapons other than their main armaments, of which there were two.

Also, the Paris Gun? On an ironclad. Come on. Can we not do unrealistic bull?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_%28warship%29

OOC: Sorry for that post...

Danteri Class:

- One turret with two 10' guns build in.
- Two turrets with two 8' guns built in.
- Six un-turreted 8' guns on the deck, three to a side.

Carries enough coal for ten days of operation.

Tyrant Class

- One turret with two 16' guns built in.
- Two turrets with 10' guns built in.
- Ten unturreted 8' guns on the deck, five to a side.

Carries enough coal for eight days of operation, a prototype, with only one in service.

OOC: Sorry about the prior post - let's consider it a warning about coming up with technical information while inebriated, shall we?

The second wall was every bit as tough as the first, and had been built to hold. The designer had assumed the outer wall would fall to a truly determined enemy, but... the inner walls had been designed to hold. And, hold they had, against everything that could be thrown against them in oh so many wars before this one.
Now, the guns of the Danteri fleet and army pounded it with their powered death... it would hold for now, but the future was uncertain...

- The siege continues.

OOC: I know that those are still a lot of guns, but that's for the "ships of the line" etc. there would be fewer on skirmishers.

- There exist eighteen Danteri class warships, one Tyrant class warship and a number of lighter ironclads of the Freiburg design:

Freiburg Class Ships:

- Primary Weapon: One set of two 10' guns, set into a turret in the middle of the vessel.

- Other Weapons: Not really that many... basically, the crew has rifles, and that's it.

- Armour: Much thinner than that of the Danteri or Tyrant class, can stop small arms or light cannon, but against an 8' or 10' naval gun...

Battlefield Role: Not really a battle field ship, this vessel is a raider, designed to sneak in and hit wooden supply ships, or to raid civilian shipping, or to provide supporting fire for a land based operation, or for river duty... basically, this ship is second rate at every type of task except for out right battle, which it avoids. It's like a gun-boat crossed with a raider... the only problem is that, if a wooden ship has a favorable wind, it can easily out run this gun-boat!

Wooden Ships:

- Transport: A typical Danteri Navy Troop Transport is a large flat-bottomed wooden boat, not very practical for anything but shore-hugging, that can carry, in no comfort, 50 men. Of course, more could physically be crammed on, but...
(Note: Carries one gun, a prow-mounted five-pounder swivel gun.)

- Supply Ship: A supply ship could carry coal for the ironclads, food and water for the entire force, or supplies for the army. The typical supply ship is a sailing ship, large-ish, that can carry enough coal to resupply two ironclads for their ten days, enough food to keep the men on two such ships fed for about that long, or enough ammunition to last those ships for a few major battles. As such, this is actually the most common sort of ship in the Danteri navy - for every force of four ironclads, ten such ships are needed to keep them supplied if they are to go on long-distance operations.

- Raider: The "raider" simply refers to a fast sailing ship, mostly converted civilian ships, desidned to fill the role of a raiding vessel, hitting enemy supply lines or raiding their shipping. This sort of ship varries widely in quality and armament, but all have at least four guns... although some are reported to have entire broadsides...

The Justinian Citadel was proving to be a veritable bottom-less pit into which the Danteri Army could throw as much fire-power as they wanted, but still not triumph.
It held defiantly, its few remaining guns firing rarely now, as they were low on shells... still, when a Danteri force tried to storm the walls, they were cut down in a hail of gun fire.
Since the fall of the outer wall, the Danterians had made zero progress, advancing not at all, and lossing hundreds of men for a very small numbder of Justinians. It was a stalemate, and so it had been decided to hold back the infantry for now, and to simply try and shell the second wall into rubble, as they had done with the first wall.
With that decision, the bombardment had intensified - the naval vessels in the harbour were firing all of their guns now, not just the heavier ones, and the army in the field around the citadel was sending as much metal through the air as it could... mortar shells burst overhead, cannon fire boomed through the night, and final victory seemed oh-so-far away.

Sorry Danteri

I started my own region and I have to run it now. I'm not gonna be able to post anymore. Good Luck with this thread though.

Alright. I hereby proclaim this thread dead. May it Rest In Peace.

Well you did pretty good, if I start anything I will call you over. Could you also join The Honor Guard, an active RP community that I RP over at. Cool place overall, makje a puppet and join if your bigger nation can't.