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New Service Rifle Required!

Orezia
15-04-2006, 17:04
The Orezian Armed Forces is in need of a new service rifle to replace the ancient AK-47s the Armed Forces are currently using. We have a few requirements for the new service rifle, requirements that no manifacturers at home can support us with. The rifle

should be in a bullpup configuration
must be servicable by both right-handed and left-handed individuals
must have a caliber between 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm
must cost less than $1,800 per rifle
must be rugged and able to sustain usage over extended periods of time without cleaning
must be able to operate favorably in tropical conditions with temperatures ranging between -0°C to +50°C
must be able to fit bayonet and 40mm grenade launcher

We are looking for roughly a hundred thousand rifles, and will seriously consider every offer presented.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 17:06
The Orezian Armed Forces is in need of a new service rifle to replace the ancient AK-47s the Armed Forces are currently using. We have a few requirements for the new service rifle, requirements that no manifacturers at home can support us with. The rifle

should be in a bullpup configuration
must be servicable by both right-handed and left-handed individuals
must have a caliber between 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm
must cost less than $1,800 per rifle
must be rugged and able to sustain usage over extended periods of time without cleaning
must be able to operate favorably in tropical conditions with temperatures ranging between -0°C to +50°C
must be able to fit bayonet and 40mm grenade launcher

We are looking for roughly a hundred thousand rifles, and will seriously consider every offer presented.

Pythogria can sell you production rights to our ZA-1.

Name: ZA-1 Assualt Rifle

Manufacturer: ZefTec

Construction: polymers, with some plastic parts (such as sides of handle)

Length (Weapon): 39 inches

Length (Barrel): 19.88 inches

Weight of weapon (Loaded): 7 lbs

Weight of weapon (Unloaded): 6.5 lbs

Cartridge used: 5.56 x 45 mm

Sights: Universal Mounting Rail (takes most scopes, comes with one), plus iron sights

Effective Range: 700 meters

Cost: $1,000 USD per rifle

Other: 20mm or 40mm grenade launcher or mortar optional. Uses VIOLA SmartGunSystem to link with compatible battlesuits.
Axinon
15-04-2006, 17:53
We would like to offer you our general infantry weapon, the A-2

Designed By: Axinon Defense Corp/Rivieaou Military Systems
Manufactured By: Rockville Firearms Company
Ammunition: 7.62mm x 39mm
Length of Weapon: 950 mm
Length of Barrel: 430 mm
Weight of Weapon (Loaded): 8 lbs
Construction: Various plastics and other synthetic materials, for strength and comfort
Sight: Comes with the standard iron sight, essentially the same as the one used on the AK-47. It accepts a wide range of scopes, however. And if your nation's scopes are not compatible we would be glad to sell you scopes, for a small fee.
Rate of Fire: 600 Rounds Per Minute
Effective Range: 670 meters
Cartridge Size: Normal-30 bullets, can accept 80 bullet drum cartridges too.
Price: 850 USD

The A-2 is a refinement of the A-1, which is in turn based on the AK-103. The ergonomics have been improved, allowing the user to switch between full auto, semi-auto and safety without taking a hand off the trigger or lowering the gun. However, it is at heart an advanced derivative of the AK-47, and thus should be very easy for your army to adapt to using. Its major upside is an advanced BARS (Balanced Automatic Recoil System) eliminates a large amount of the recoil the rifle generates, allowing superior accuracy when using fully automatic fire. We are currently working on cross-compatibility with the new G-1 Combat Suits under development, and if you desire we can make your new rifles cross-compatible with most battle suits free of charge. However, if your battle suit uses a strange system, we may need to charge. Our guns are useable for both Righties and Lefties in their standard configuration. As our guns are based of the rugged AK-47, they have supreme reliability, and can function properly in almost any environment.
Russkya
15-04-2006, 17:58
OOC: Do you want the bayonet and the underbarrel grenade launcher to be fitted at the same time? Typically the bayonet lug, when mounted under the muzzle, is used in the fitting of UBGLs, but if you do what the Russians did with the AN-94, then you fit the lug to the side of the muzzle and then a GP-30 and the bayonet can be attached at the same time.
The Minuteman
15-04-2006, 18:06
Have you considered the AK-74? It's only slightly smaller caliber(5.45mm x 45mm) than what you are looking for. It is also not a bullpup. They are however common, reliable, and especially cheap.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 18:08
Have you considered the AK-74? It's only slightly smaller caliber(5.45mm x 45mm) than what you are looking for. It is also not a bullpup. They are however common, reliable, and especially cheap.

They are also inferior to most NS rifles. In reality, most real designs are utterly roasted here.

example:

My Von Grapple-class battleship meets an Iowa-class.

Who wins?

Me. I have a better computer, more guns, I'm faster, can turn better, have AA, and anti-ship missiles, and carry a missile silo.
Witoslawski Syndicates
15-04-2006, 18:17
Would you settle for the Abakan, also known as the AN-91/94?

AN-94 Technical Summary

Caliber: 5.45 mm
Empty Mass: 3.85 kg (8.5 lb)
Firearm action: Gas actuated selective fire and Delayed Recoil
Manufacturer: Izhmash
Barrel Length: 405 mm (16.2 in)
Overall Length: 943 mm (37.7 in)
Magazine: 30 rounds
Maximum Range: 700 m (2296 ft)
Effective Range: 400 m (1312 ft)
Cyclic ROF: 1800 or 600 round/min


The Abakan is very rugged and very accurate. It is based on the previous Kalashnikov series (which is why it's so rugged and needs not to be cleaned for extended periods of time), but it also has delayed recoil (making it extremely accurate).

If you wish to discuss buying 1 000 units of these or more, then post in this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477671) thread.
Orezia
15-04-2006, 19:16
We have carefully studied each rifle offered, but none of them fits our demands. We will not accept any rifle that isn't bullpup, nor will we accept any rifle which used ammunition which is smaller than the 5.56 NATO round [most preferably the caliber should be around 6mm - 7mm due to the poor killing power of the 5.56]. As for the bayonet / grenade launcher, if both can be fitted at the same time, that'd be great but it is not a requirement. We are still searching for usable weapons.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 19:17
We have carefully studied each rifle offered, but none of them fits our demands. We will not accept any rifle that isn't bullpup, nor will we accept any rifle which used ammunition which is smaller than the 5.56 NATO round [most preferably the caliber should be around 6mm - 7mm due to the poor killing power of the 5.56]. As for the bayonet / grenade launcher, if both can be fitted at the same time, that'd be great but it is not a requirement. We are still searching for usable weapons.

Pythogria wil lmodify the ZA-1 to what you need.
Gwazzaria
15-04-2006, 20:04
While we do not have the productive capability this would require, we would be happy to propose one of our designs. If you require someone to produce the weapon, beyond your own factories, we'd like to suggest our comrades Bertlingian Defense Technologies, Inc. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=475634)

This rifle is not actually bullpup in design, with the magazine fitting in horizontally behind and slightly above the barrel.

The Mk. 223 Assault Rifle
Rotating bolt, gas operated
Ammunition: 6.5mm Grendel
Frame: Polymer
Weight: 3.3 kg unloaded
Length: 952mm, with standard barrel
Magazines: 42, 70, or 100 round heptagonal magazine
RoF: single-shot, three-round burst, or full 700 rpm
Effective Range of Fire: 500-600 meters
Picatinny rails above and below barrel.
Spent casings eject from bottom of gun, making it effectively ambidextrous.
Sparta Infensus
15-04-2006, 20:05
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Ammunintion: 6.8 SPC Caseless. It has the accuracy of 5.56 with the range and kick of 7.62
Manufacturer: Sparta Infensus Armed Forces Research
Length of the Weapon: 1130 mm
Action: Gas, semi-auto
Magazine: 40, 100 rounds detachable flat mag.
Barrel Length: 609.6 Millimeters
Muzzle Velocity: 1219.2 meters/second
RPM Clocks: These can be chosen while editing the internal parts.
1400 RPM - Slowest Clock
1800 RPM - Normal Clock
2200 RPM - Fastest Clock
Wear and Tear: Can survive about 800,000 rounds without a barrel change.

Like the it's G4, G5, and G6 counter part used instead of using low power 4.7 caliber rounds this uses 6.8 SPC to get the job done with a chamber and barell made up of Alumina-Oxide it's melting temprature is that near melting a diamond. It also is lighter than any assault rifle on the battle field as it uses Titanium-Fullerenes, and Alumina-Oxide, as well as Kevlar. This composition means that it can take 6 freight trains moving at 330 MPH per square centi-meter. Roughly the size of ones finger nail. Now only Sparta Infensus has access to this material at the moment and is the only one whom can produce it for so cheap. This rifle is a brain child having an effective range of 700 yards, and uses a delayed recoil system in which the reciprocating barrel's shock is absorbed by a air-chamber in the back. The air is then slowly let out as the barrel applies more pressure killing recoil dead. It also does not use the G-11's twisting of the bullet system alloing this gun to fire at a full clock of 2200 RPM, similar to an XM-134 minigun without the 6 barrels. Though it shoots at 1800 RPM to reduce the risk of misfires. The weapon is ridden with RAIL mounts for GL's, LAM, Scopes etc.. etc... This rifle beats out any other on the battlefield and only for 1,800$ Also with the use of caseless ammunition and without the complexity of the G-11 this weapon is probbably more rugged than the AK-47 as it can't jam and doesn't have vary many moving parts.
The Beltway
15-04-2006, 20:08
OOC - I could get one together tomorrow, if you're willing to wait til then...
Orezia
15-04-2006, 20:17
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/78587copy.png

Ammunintion: 6.8 SPC Caseless. It has the accuracy of 5.56 with the range and kick of 7.62
Manufacturer: Sparta Infensus Armed Forces Research
Length of the Weapon: 1130 mm
Action: Gas, semi-auto
Magazine: 40, 100 rounds detachable flat mag.

Like the it's G4, G5, and G6 counter part used instead of using low power 4.7 caliber rounds this uses 6.8 SPC to get the job done with a chamber and barell made up of Alumina-Oxide it's melting temprature is that near melting a diamond. It also is lighter than any assault rifle on the battle field as it uses Titanium-Fullerenes, and Alumina-Oxide, as well as Kevlar. This composition means that it can take 6 freight trains moving at 330 MPH per square inch dropped on ones finger nail. Now only Sparta Infensus has access to this material at the moment and is the only one whom can produce it for so cheap. This rifle is a brain child having an effective range of 700 yards, and uses a delayed recoil system in which the reciprocating barrel's shock is absorbed by a air-chamber in the back. The air is then slowly let out as the barrel applies more pressure killing recoil dead. It also does not use the G-11's twisting of the bullet system alloing this gun to fire at a full clock of 2200 RPM, similar to an XM-134 minigun without the 6 barrels. Though it shoots at 1800 RPM to reduce the risk of misfires. The weapon is ridden with RAIL mounts for GL's, LAM, Scopes etc.. etc... This rifle beats out any other on the battlefield and only for 1,800$ Also with the use of caseless ammunition and without the complexity of the G-11 this weapon is probbably more rugged than the AK-47 as it can't jam and doesn't have vary many moving parts.
I am interested, but I'd like some more specifications on it. Such as weight, rate of fire, length of barrel, chamber pressure, speed of the round when it exits the barrel, how much wear and tear it can sustain, how many rounds fired before the barrel/weapon needs replacement, etc.

Beltway: Yeah, I can wait. The more weapons, the better.
Sparta Infensus
15-04-2006, 20:18
"Those are all mentioned in the description except barrel length and muzzle velocity which I will be adding in a few seconds..."
Orezia
15-04-2006, 20:44
"Those are all mentioned in the description except barrel length and muzzle velocity which I will be adding in a few seconds..."
What I cannot find anywhere:
Weight of weapon
Rounds fired before barrel replacement is necessary
Barrel length [in metric, please]
If bayonet is possible to attach
Speed as round exits barrel [also in metric, please]
Chamber pressure
Sparta Infensus
15-04-2006, 20:49
What I cannot find anywhere:
Weight of weapon
Rounds fired before barrel replacement is necessary
Barrel length [in metric, please]
If bayonet is possible to attach
Speed as round exits barrel [also in metric, please]
Chamber pressure"If you look at the picture you can see the excessive railmounts. It also mentions that in the description. that you can mount 'GL's, LAM, Scopes etc.. etc... ' also I just added muzzle velocity, barrel length, and I still need to add Chamber Pressure...."
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 20:54
M-41A Pulse Rifle



Type : M-41A Pulse Rifle 10mm with 30mm pump action grenade launcher and Digital Counter

Ammunition: 10mm explosive tip cassless standard light armour piercing round .M-40 Grenades

Capacity: 99 rounds

The M41A Pulse Rifle is the standard issue for all United Earth Military Marines. It fires a 10mm Explosive Tipped Case less Light Armour Piercing round. The M41 uses electronic pulse action to fire, controlled directly from the trigger. The internal mechanism, including the rotating breech, is mounted on free-floating rails within a carbon-fiber jacket. This assembly is recoil dampened to reduce the effects of muzzle climb during burst and full automatic fire. From the thumb selector, the weapon can be set to selective, four-round burst, or full automatic fire, the latter allowing a rate of fire up to the weapon's cyclic rate of 900 rpm.
The Phoenix Milita
15-04-2006, 20:57
M-4 Bullpup
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/M4B.gif
Name: M-4 Bullpup
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix redesign of Armalite\Colt(USA)
Ammo Types:5.56mm NATO(.223 Rem) or .224 BOZ
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt, auto/burst/semi-auto
Total Weight: 8.5lbs
Range: 900+ meters
ROF: 900 rounds per minute
Capacity: 30 round clip or 60 round drum
The M-4 bullpup is the perfect weapon to replace the aging M-16\M-4 series
in your military especially if you are set on using 5.56mm rounds and would
like a weapon similar to but better than the M-16/M-4.
The bullpup solves some of the jamming problems associated with the
M-16\M-4 due to the polymer eclosed action and carbon coated moving parts.
It is also much more accurate due to a barrel which is about twice as
long. The standard rail system can accept the mounting of scopes, sights,
laser aiming modules, tac lights, a bayonet, foward grip, bipod, M203X,
remington 870, M-8 shotgun, a sling and etc. basically anything that can be mounted
on an M-4 and then some.
Price
$800
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AR-47 Assault Rifle
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Name: AR-47
Designed by: Phoenix Milita DARPA
Caliber 7.62x39mm or 5.45mm
Action: Select fire (auto/burst/semi-auto)
Total Weight: 8lbs
Range: 800 meters
Rate Of Fire: 900 rounds per minute
Capacity 30 round clip or 60 shot drum
The AR-47 is a typical polymer composite assault rifle which closely resembles the colt M-16 series. The similarites are only skin deep however, the AR-47 was built to chamber and fire popular russian assault rifle ammuniton. (7.62mm oe 5.45mm) A spring system reduces recoil and improves accuracy over the kalishnakov series. The fact that the russian rounds are usually easy to find on most battlefieds makes logistics a whole lot easier. Able to accept most 5.45mm or 7.62mm magazines, the AR-47 are perfect for SOF who would rather make "battle field pickups" from dead enemy forces than carry large amounts of spare ammo. The AR-47 features a full piccatinny rail interface system allowing it to accept the M203X belt fed 40mm grenade launcher, sling, removable muzzle suppressor (scilencer), 0-4x scope, laser dot, and
TAC light, sights, scopes, a bipod, foward grip and a M-9 bayonet. This weapons sytem is perfect to use for Special of covert operations or it can be used to augment or serve as the primary weapon in armies which use the AK-47/74 usually.
Price
$1500
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AR-56 Assault Rifle
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Name: AR-56
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix
Ammo Types:5.56mm NATO(.223 Rem) or .224 BOZ
Action: gas operated, roatating bolt, auto/burst/semi-auto
Total Weight: 7.3lbs empty 9 lbs loaded
Range: 800 meters
ROF: 900 rounds per minute
Capacity30 round clip or 60 round drum
The AR-56 was built to replace the aging M-16\M-4 series in our Marine Corps and other units which use it. The AR-56 solves some of the jamming problems associated with the venerable M-16\M-4 line of weapons and is also more accurate due to a longer heavier barrel. The stock can be replaced with a collapsable or folding one and it can accept almost any accesory out there.
The AR-56's rail system can accept the mounting of scopes, sights, laser aiming modules, tac lights, a bayonet, foward grip, bipod and a sling etc.
Price
$1200
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FC-57A1,2,3 Assault Rifle
A Joint-Project (made by Phoenix Dynamix on contract from Freedom Country[ex-Nation])
6.62mm Hollow Point or AP rounds, 20mm HE or HEAT shells no longer in production 250,000 copies available only.
Total Weight: 8.5 kg
Range: 1000 meters (6.62mm) 500 meters (20mm)
ROF: 250\60 rpm
Price
$1200
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OOC; this picture is of the FC-57B Assault Rifle, i think with minor modifcations we could produce them with a 40mm GL attached.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/FC-57.jpg


For all of the weapons: the bullet goes out really fast, the barrel can be used to fire 10,000+ rounds and idk what chamber pressure is :/
Sparta Infensus
15-04-2006, 21:02
OOC: Yay I so far beat out all of my competition, oh yeah and M41A dude. 10mm = .40 Cal bullets. Meaning your effective range is that of a pistol because .40 cal has a very broad surface area.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 21:05
OOC: Yay I so far beat out all of my competition, oh yeah and M41A dude. 10mm = .40 Cal bullets. Meaning your effective range is that of a pistol because .40 cal has a very broad surface area.

UEG, look at that post.
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 21:07
the M41A was desging for close combat
Orezia
15-04-2006, 21:08
United Earth Govenment, you don't need to spam the thread. Please stop, or I won't consider your rifle.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 21:09
the M41A was desging for close combat

Iy has the effective range of a PISTOL. Sure, most don't shoot 800 meteres-- mine don't-- but they do shoot 600. My sniper rifle shoots 800. This... 50 at MOST. Very bad idea. As a matter of fact, want to have a wargame? Three Pythogrian soldiers with ZA-1s versus four UEG soldiers with M41As.
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 21:10
United Earth Govenment, you don't need to spam the thread. Please stop, or I won't consider your rifle.

sorry
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 21:10
United Earth Govenment, you don't need to spam the thread. Please stop, or I won't consider your rifle.

Yes, UEG, I'll start a thread for our argument.
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 21:13
ok let have a wargame. with my speical forces.and the Marine ForcesWith the new M41A. The M41 Wont replace the standard AK-47 thats wat the reg army uses
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 21:14
ok let have a wargame. with my speical forces.and the Marine ForcesWith the new M41A. The M41 Wont replace the standard AK-47 thats wat the reg army uses

(Continue this in the thread I started. NO MORE SPAMMING.)
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 21:16
ok i got a bad habit doing that
Sparta Infensus
15-04-2006, 21:16
wrong a .22 pistol has a short range, but a .223 aka the 5.56mm bullet has a longer range. The range has more to do with the amount of powder and length of the barrel. And .40 caliber is 10.16mmOOC: I was close enought. And NO YOUR WRONG. Range does have to deal with the length of the barrel and the grains but for the most part the MASS of the bullet. Last time I checked nation states still obeyed the laws of physics and the laws of physics say something with more mass can traverse a greater distance with more energy. Here's an example.

Try to chuck a feather 20 feet at 90 mph. It isn't going to happen because of the feathers surface area and lack of mass to continue the KENETIC ENERGY you provided it with.

Do the same with a rock; and you have a chunk of mass flying at 90 MPH until;
1. Gravity Yanks it back to earth
2. 3rd Party Object gets stuck in it's path and takes the energy says Newton's law of inertia.

Now heres the relation of that example to bullets. The lighter one, the .223 Hornet bullet would have a good range but because of it's lack of mass it can't have the possible amount of range as well as joules of energy the the 5.56 or 7.62 bullets CAN have.

Look don't fucking talk to me about bullets. I'm a gun junkie KTHX.
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 21:21
does that mean i have to recamber the gun to a new round
Sparta Infensus
15-04-2006, 21:22
"WRONG. It was done by a Candian sniper team with a .50 BMG round. The bullet was in the air for 3.76 seconds before it raped it's targets face. STFU.. This kill was done with a Cheytac LRRS."
Orezia
15-04-2006, 21:24
I'm only going to say this once: Take this discussion away from this thread at once, or I'll call the mods to have it removed as spam.

Thank you.
United Earth Govenment
15-04-2006, 21:27
Going To Withdraw The Gun Anyway So There.
Commonalitarianism
15-04-2006, 21:41
We have had a similar problem finding a high quality rifle. This has forced us to make our own. We incorporated several features from the AA-12- Auto Assault 12 into this gun, as well as the XM- 8. Low kick because of a constant recoil system. Almost no need to clean even after thousands of rounds are fired. This gun is made of a combination of lightweight biopolymers and forge cast steel. It is very easy to clean and disassemble because of its modular design. It can serve both as an infantry sniper rifle and a semiautomatic rifle. The rifle is highly accurate.

Shellshock Rifle
Length 1100 MM
Barrel 500 MM (Sniper Version)
Velocity 900 Meters/Second
Range: Accurate Fire 1000 Meters Harassing Fire 1200 Meters-- the range of a 7.62 MM sniper rifle.
Firing Life For Barrel: 15,000 Rounds.
Weight 4 kilograms
RPM-- 500 RPM, RPM Is limited because of the low recoil system, this improves accuracy-- it has the kick of a .22 rifle. Gun can be set to single shot, 3 shot, or automatic burst.
Bullpup Design
Magazine 30 Round Magazine (Bioplastic Encasement),
Rounds 7.62 MM Rounds -- This gun uses 7.62 mm rounds because most body armor can withstand 5.56 mm rounds.
System: Gas operated, constant recoil system.
Sights: Electrooptical Sights
Grenade Launcher: Side launched 40 mm grenade system. Underbarrel bayonet attachment.
Price $1500

We have developed a 7.62 MM armor piercing electroshock bullet. It pierces body armor, does regular damage, plus additionally it has an electroshock charge like a shock bullet, enough to knock a man cold out.
Praetonia
15-04-2006, 22:34
History

Following the development of new assault rifles by other nations using intermediary cartridges, the decision was made to produce a new Praetonian rifle with a new Imperial Ordnance round to use with it. The rifle is of the bullpup configuration, like all previous Praetonian assault rifles, and is designed to be able to operate at a longer range than assualt rifles such as the M16 and G36.

Ammunition

As well as a new rifle, a new round was needed to go with it. The new round had to be both light and small but also able to impart a large amount of energy to its target, and so a heavy caseless 6.3mm tungsten round, weighing 8.2 grammes, was developed with a suitably large 35mm charge behind it. The ammunition is believed to have an effective range of 750m when fired from the L63, assuming the operator is able to aim accurately at that distance.

The 6.3 x 35mm Imperial Ordnance round, as it is now known, is capable of penetrating most body armour carried by troops, especially at short range, and with practical certainty with burst fire. The round is also sufficiently powerful to penetrate several sheets of regular glass and thin steel whilst retaining the ability to inflict a lethal wound at the end of it.

A version of the 6.3mm round made of 'blended metal' is also in production, but this bullet has been limitted so far to special operations sections due to concerns about its penetrative capailities in a general combat scenario.

Weapon Layout

The L63 is arranged in a bullpup format, with the 40-round magazine or 80-round drum located to the rear of the weapon, with the pistol grip just behind the forward hand grip. The weapon is 800mm long, of which 550mm is barrel. The long barrel imparts considerable speed and accuracy to the bullet, whilst the bullpup format keeps the gun suitably compact.

The weapon is constructed primarily of aluminium alloys and light composite materials, and weighs 4.25kg fully loaded with a scope attached to one of its two detachable rails. The primary such rail is mounted above the gun, and is usually used for mounting a scope, and the secondary rail is mounted below the grip and is used for mounting a 40mm grenade launcher, torch, Etc. A 12" sword or 5" knife bayonet may be attached to the muzzle guard.

The L63 can fire single shot, burst or full automatic. The ammunition is fired electronically in order to allow the 3-round burst a RoF of 2,200 rounds / minute (or the whole burst fired in 0.08 seconds). The full automatic mode is limitted to 650 rounds / minute in order to avoid wasted ammunition, although it could theoretically go higher. Both rails carry a wire from the gun into suitably equipped accessories, allowing an underslung grenade launcher to be fired electronically from the same trigger as the KE weapon, and to feed information from the forward mounted laser rangefinder to the scope.

In order to save power, the gun has a recoil energy-reclamation outer barrel which recharges the battery (with a shelf life of 15 years) as the weapon is fired. Since the recoil of the rifle greatly exceeds the small current required to ignite the primer in a round, in theory the battery can last indefiantely without recharge. However, if energy-consuming accessories such as torches, the laser rangefinder and scope, Etc. are left on for long peroids it may be necessay to recharge the battery manually. In an emergency, rounds may be expended in order to recharge the battery, and a manual charging system exists in case the battery completely runs out of power and is incapable of firing another round.

Integrated General Scope (IGS)

Based on the British SUSAT, the L63 is equipped with a scope as standard - usually 4x magnification, although both 2x and 6x are available. The IGS, like the SUSAT, is carries a tritium illuminator for night fighting. Unlike the SUSAT, the IGS has an electronic overlay (which is not required for the operation of the scope) linked in to the weapon's laser rangefinder which displays the range of whatever the weapon is pointed at, giving the user vital information for adjusting his aim, as well as allowing him to report exact positions of enemy troops and vehicles.

The scope is highly durable and constructed mainly of aluminium. Lense caps are provided to protect the lenses, and the electronic overlay view (as well as the rangefinder) can be turned off most of the time in order to conserve electricity. Ironsights are also available for the rifle, but are not generally used in Praetonian service.

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An L63 painted in Praetonian Field Khaki (light)

Specifications - General

Length (body): 800mm
Length (barrel): 550mm
Ammunition: 6.3 x 35mm Imperial Ordnance (caseless)
Ammunition Capacity: 40 + 1 rounds standard
Range: 750m (effective); 1600m (round becomes spent)
Weight: 4.25kg
Rate of Fire: Semi-automatic; 3 round burst (2,200 rpm); full-auto (650 rpm)
Muzzle Velocity: 972m/s
Accessories: 2x detachable rails for use with a variety of accessories; bayonet lug; recoil energy reclamation system

Production Cost: $2,100 / unit
Purchase Cost: $2,500 / unit

Specifications - Carbine

Length (body): 500mm
Length (barrel): 250mm
Ammunition: 6.3 x 35mm Imperial Ordnance (caseless)
Ammunition Capacity: 30 + 1 rounds standard
Range: 320m (effective); 1600m (round becomes spent)
Weight: 2.8kg
Rate of Fire: Semi-automatic; 3 round burst (2,200 rpm); full-auto (650 rpm)
Muzzle Velocity: 872m/s
Accessories: 1x detachable rail for use with a variety of accessories; bayonet lug; recoil energy reclamation system

Production Cost: $1,800 / unit
Purchase Cost: $2,200 / unit

Specifications - Squad Automatic Weapon / Marksman Rifle

Length (body): 920mm
Length (barrel): 670mm
Ammunition: 6.3 x 35mm Imperial Ordnance (caseless)
Ammunition Capacity: 120 + 1 rounds standard
Range: 910m (effective); 1600m (round becomes spent)
Weight: 5.8kg
Rate of Fire: Semi-automatic; 3 round burst (2,200 rpm); full-auto (650 rpm)
Muzzle Velocity: 1,025m/s
Accessories: 1x detachable rail for use with a variety of accessories; recoil energy reclamation system

Production Cost: $2,200 / unit
Purchase Cost: $2,600 / unit
Fits all of your criteria except the price.
Usea-Jason
15-04-2006, 22:47
Untill you get a new rifle,Might I sugest My countries AK-47 mod.It is the AJK-97.What it dose is replaces parts of the Standard military AK-47 with lighter materials.It's lighter weight sould help untill you deside upon a rifle to replace it.We could send you the intructions to make them for free,your choise to use them.

Mjr. Peter Alexandrov, UADF Arms Creations.
Scandavian States
15-04-2006, 23:05
Phoenix Defense Industries would be most pleased to provide the Republic of Orezia with personal weapons for their armed forces. Presently we offer for export two rifles, the M57 Pulse Carbine and M58 Pulse Rifle. Both have excellent service records with the Imperial Armed Forces and are very easy to service. Although not shown, attachment rails do exist for just about any accessory one could possibly want.


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M58 Pulse Rifle
Weight: 8.5 pounds
Overall Length: 35 Inches
Barrel Length: 24.5 Inches
Caliber: 6.25mm Imperial
Range (Effective): 600 Meters
Range (Max Effective): 850 Meters
Configuration: Bullpup
Rounds Per Magazine: 50
Action: Safe, Two Round Burst, Automatic
Accessories: Imperial Combat Optical Sight, IR laser pointer, flashlight, pump-action grenade launcher, suppressor
Price: 1500 USD

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M57 Pulse Carbine
Weight: 6.8 Pounds
Overall Length: 28 Inches
Barrel Length: 20 Inches
Caliber: 6.25mm Imperial
Range (Effective): 475 Meters
Range (Max Effective): 665 Meters
Configuration: Bullpup
Rounds Per Magazine: 30
Action: Safe, Two Round Burst, Automatic
Accessories: Imperial Combat Optical Sight, IR laser pointer, flashlight, pump-action grenade launcher, suppressor
Price: 1200 USD
Orezia
15-04-2006, 23:05
Fits all of your criteria except the price.
Indeed. You don't think you'd be willing to lower the price for the carbine to $1,800 per unit, would you? I'm very interested in it.
United Earth Govenment
16-04-2006, 00:35
this is newest model

Type : M-41B Pulse Rifle 7.56 mm with 40mm pump action grenade launcher and Digital Counter

Ammunition: 7.56mm explosive tip standard light Armour piercing round .M-40 Grenades

Capacity: 99 rounds

The M41A Pulse Rifle is the standard issue for all United Earth Military Marines. It fires a 7.56 mm Explosive Tipped Case less Light Armour Piercing round. The M41 uses electronic pulse action to fire, controlled directly from the trigger. The internal mechanism, including the rotating breech, is mounted on free-floating rails within a carbon-fiber jacket. This assembly is recoil dampened to reduce the effects of muzzle climb during burst and full automatic fire. From the thumb selector, the weapon can be set to selective, four-round burst, or full automatic fire, the latter allowing a rate of fire up to the weapon's cyclic rate of 900 rpm.


Full Weight 4.9kg
Muzzle Velocity 840m/s
Maximum Range 2.100m
Effective Range 500m
Rate Of Fire 900rpm
Full Clip 99
Axinon
16-04-2006, 03:21
We would like to inquire as to which of your requirements our entry (The A-2, see page 1) did not adheare.

Thank you..
Praetonia
16-04-2006, 10:10
Indeed. You don't think you'd be willing to lower the price for the carbine to $1,800 per unit, would you? I'm very interested in it.
Well if I did that I would be selling them for the same amount it costs me to produce them, so when you factor in administration, transport and suchlike, I would be making a net loss. However, I would be willing to slash $200 off the purchase cost of each model. Would this be acceptable?
Orezia
16-04-2006, 16:33
OFFICIAL STATEMENT

We thank all nations who have participated, but we have decided to opt for the Praetonian L63 carbine to replace the AK-47s currently in service. We have found that this rifle, while a tad expensive, has met or exceeded all our demands save for the price, but the features of the rifle more than make up for the high price. The Praetonian offer to slash the price by $200 per rifle has proved their willingness to come to an agreement, something which is look upon very favorably by the Orezian Government. We are therefore placing an order for a total of ninety-five thousand (95,000) L63 carbines with the Praetonian Imperial Land Defence Systems. We thank all nations for participating, and congratulate Praetonia for winning the contest.

We would like the carbines we have ordered to be delivered in a black color scheme, which is the color scheme the Orezian Armed Forces is currently going to employ on all its small-arms as of now. The cost of one hundred and ninety million ($190,000,000) dollars will be transmitted to your account upon confirmation of this order. We would also like to negotiate a deal where we can be allowed to produce the ammunition for the carbines (6.3x35mm caseless) with the Imperial Land Defence Systems.
Orezia
25-04-2006, 16:45
bump for Praetonia.
Orezia
26-04-2006, 20:50
OFFICIAL STATEMENT

Due to the lack of response from Praetonia, we are forced to cancel our order for 95,000 L63 carbines with the Imperial Land Defence Systems and look elsewhere for a suitable assault rifle for our armed forces.
The Phoenix Milita
26-04-2006, 21:12
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AR-56 Assault Rifle
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Name: AR-56
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix
Ammo Types:5.56mm NATO(.223 Rem) or .224 BOZ
Action: gas operated, roatating bolt, auto/burst/semi-auto
Total Weight: 7.3lbs empty 9 lbs loaded
Range: 800 meters
ROF: 900 rounds per minute
Capacity30 round clip or 60 round drum
The AR-56 was built to replace the aging M-16\M-4 series in our Marine Corps and other units which use it. The AR-56 solves some of the jamming problems associated with the venerable M-16\M-4 line of weapons and is also more accurate due to a longer heavier barrel. The stock can be replaced with a collapsable or folding one and it can accept almost any accesory out there.
The AR-56's rail system can accept the mounting of scopes, sights, laser aiming modules, tac lights, a bayonet, foward grip, bipod and a sling etc.
Price
$1200

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Otagia
26-04-2006, 21:17
Pale Rider Arms would be happy to supply you with the M25 HVAR, our latest assault rifle. While its cost exceeds the limit placed by your governent, it includes an integral Smartgun system, along with the goggles required to use it (a 1000 USD value).

M25 HVAR

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Length: 560mm
Barrel Length: 491mm
UGL Barrel Length: 214mm
Cartridge: 6mm x 50mm high velocity caseless, 30mm grenade
Muzzle Velocity: 5000 fps
Ammuntion: 60 6mm, 6 30mm grenades
Modes of Fire: Safe, Semi Auto, 3 round burst, full auto, grenade
Mass (Empty): 4.1 kg
Mass (Fully Loaded): 6.42 kg
Features: Recessed top mounting rail, integral smartgun system
Cost: 2700 USD (includes set of smartgun goggles)

The successor to the popular M22 series HVAR, the M25 was designed as a lighter version of the M22, while maintaining its accuracy and firepower. In order to meet these goals, a bull-pup configuration was adopted, shrinking the over all size of the weapon. The 40mm grenade launcher was replaced with the smaller 30mm variant, not only reducing weight but increasing logistical efficiency, as it shares its ammunition with the GL series of launchers. Other features were improved, notably the addition of a full integral smartgun system, as well as a large magazine.
Doomingsland
26-04-2006, 21:27
Official Corporate Transmission

Greetings,

We represent Doomingsland Defense Industries, one of the world's premier manufacturers of precision-built infantry arms. We would like to present you with the DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle for evaluation for your forces.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10318644&postcount=1

This rifle is easily one of the most accurate, reliable, and deadly weapons on the global market, currently. We urge you to consider the DR-83 for adoption for your armed forces.
Orezia
26-04-2006, 23:05
Doomingsland and The Pheonix Militia: Your weapons are nice, but they aren't bullpup design, which was one thing which I specified was needed for my militarys use. Sorry.

Otagia: Nice rifle, but it seems way too complicated for my conscripts to use. Besides, it's way too expensive for me. Sorry.
The Phoenix Milita
26-04-2006, 23:12
M-4 Bullpup
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Name: M-4 Bullpup
Designed by: Phoenix Dynamix redesign of Armalite\Colt(USA)
Ammo Types:5.56mm NATO(.223 Rem) or .224 BOZ
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt, auto/burst/semi-auto
Total Weight: 8.5lbs
Range: 900+ meters
ROF: 900 rounds per minute
Capacity: 30 round clip or 60 round drum
The M-4 bullpup is the perfect weapon to replace the aging M-16\M-4 series
in your military especially if you are set on using 5.56mm rounds and would
like a weapon similar to but better than the M-16/M-4.
The bullpup solves some of the jamming problems associated with the
M-16\M-4 due to the polymer eclosed action and carbon coated moving parts.
It is also much more accurate due to a barrel which is about twice as
long. The standard rail system can accept the mounting of scopes, sights,
laser aiming modules, tac lights, a bayonet, foward grip, bipod, M203X,
remington 870, M-8 shotgun, a sling and etc. basically anything that can be mounted
on an M-4 and then some.
Price
$800
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The Phoenix Milita
26-04-2006, 23:14
also, we may be able to rechamber the AR-22 Series of High Powered Assault weapons (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=gunz&action=display&thread=1103701142) to 7.62 or 5.56mm :)
Strathdonia
27-04-2006, 00:15
Crookfur Consulting Proudly Presents:
THE S1A5 Evolved Assault rifle
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Round: 6.25x43mm
Weight: 4.7kg (empty magazine)
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Length: 790mm
Barrel length: 570mm
Rate of fire: 650 rounds per minute
Max effective range: 600m (with sight).
Add-ons: Equipped as standard with 4x SUSAT optical sight and back up iron sights, these can be replaced with just about any other sighting system using the Rail Interface System (RIS).

The S1A5 is the very latest version of the Crookfur S1 assault rifle, one of the first major weapons system to use an intermediate cartridge. Using the almost ballistically optimum 6.25x43mm round, which offers performance vastly superior to 5.56mm NATO and at certain ranges in excess of that offered by 7.62x51mm NATO yet balanced by recoil barely more than that generated by 5.56mm NATO, the S1A5 offers exceptional accuracy whilst being a very comfortable rifle to use.
The new A5 model offers a number of improvements: the introduction of a fully modular RIS with 4 rail positions, the first available RIS with integrated power supply (basically the rifle has a big battery in the pistol grip that is connected to a number of "outlet" points on the RIS, these outlets are completely isolated when not in use so no chance of random shocks off the rifle, at the moment the number of compatible add-ons is limited to a single digital sighting system i am working on, but if you buy production rights I'm sure we can come up with a few ideas) and offers full compatibility with the new composite cased 6.25mm ULTIMATE ammo (it can still use conventional brass cased ammo), 6.25mm ULTIMATE offers even better performance than the standard 6.25mm ammo and is 35% lighter per round.

Costs:
Individual rifle:$850
Rifle with SUSAT sight: $1100
Unlimited production rights(rifle only):$85million
Unlimited production rights (rifle and ammo): $150million
Royalty fee based production rights (up to 3000units per year): Upfront $8million plus $60 per rifle produced (ammo rights included).
Royalty fee based production rights (over 3000units per year): Upfront $10million plus $40 per rifle produced (ammo rights included).

Ammo data:
Standard Ammo:
Bullet weight:6.48g (100grains)
Muzzle velocity:817m/s (2680fps)
Muzzle energy:2161J
Ultimate (composite cased)
Bullet weight:6.6g (102grains)
Muzzle velocity:840m/s (2760fps)
Muzzle energy:2329J
Orezia
27-04-2006, 00:47
[OOC: Bloody hell... I think we've got a winner!]

OFFICIAL STATEMENT

The Republic of Orezia have reviewed the rifles presented and after careful consideration decided to opt for the S1A5 Evolved Assault Rifle presented to us by Strathdonia. We wish to place an order for aquiring production rights for both the weapon and the ammunition which it uses. We wish to designate it the L4A1 Evolved Assault Rifle in Orezian service. If Shrathdonia approves of our request, the funds of one hundred and fifty million Universal Standard Dollars ($150,000,000) will be wired to your bank account upon confirmation of the order.

This weapon was chosen for several reasons, among other the fact that it is so far one of the few rifles submitted which meets all demands presented to it by the Orezian Armed Forces. Furthermore, the ammunition which the weapon uses have far greater likelyness of killing an enemy than the standard 5.56 x 45 mm NATO round many of the other designs were chambered in. This fact, among with the fact that Strathdonia offers unlimited production rights of both the weapon and of the ammunition which it uses speaks highly in favor of Orezia choosing this weapon for arming its armed forces.

We thank all companies for participating, and wish all those who didn't quite make it this time around the best of luck the next time.
Strathdonia
27-04-2006, 11:29
Crookfur Consultancies are delighted to have been selected to fufill the Orezian Military's rifle requirement.

The order is hereby approved and a license has been established, plans instructions and intial engineering samples will be dispatched forwtih as will personnel to aid the setting up of machining and tooling for rifle production.

Many thansk for choosing Crookfur Consultancies, we wish you all the best in the future.