NationStates Jolt Archive

Here's the official OOC thread. Use it for any major ooc stuff. I'll keep an updated list of links here for easy access.

Links:
Entrance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473944)
Downing FTLi (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477325)

I'll start off.

Since when were responce times 0?

Not zero, it took a few seconds. You know how fast my ships are, and being within my own territory would be me a boost as well. On top of that, your vessels appeared right after your scouts left, as you claim, therefore my ships would still be on stand by, and would only need the word that an attack occured for them to mobolise against you. Don't see your problem.

The attack's at the borders of the Republic, though. To have that much firepower there that instantaneously is pretty impressive. Unless the Republic isn't as large as I think it is, of course.

No, they came with my scouts, using my scouts to mask their entrence into the field. After that they spent days in STL hunting and stalking your stations, using their passive sensors. Furthermore, isn't here a procidure to go through before a jump, or is your crew accostomed to just jumping without warning? Chain of command to go through, few moments between steps as people look at the intel, etc?

To quote myself:
Using STL stealth drives and under heavy cloak, the Kazeci frigates began to seep throughout the empire. When one found an FTLi station, it would sit with it, piggy-backing on its FTL jumps and following it.

Nope, it's basically a two man operating room, with a big clock that tells them when to hit a big button that makes them jump randomly along the field. Plus, my guys owuld have monitered the rifts quickly after your guys left, not days after.

And Gar, the Taledonian defensive strategy is same as the ancient Roman one. We have "mobile armies" which sit along close to the borders and make up our forces. Their unique positionings give them the ability to reach the border, or somewhere within the Empire quickly, as to allow minimum damage to the Empire's assets.

I'm also wondering what this 'rift' that my ships supposedly create is that you use to monitor them.

And I meant the jump procedure on your ships.

And Gar, the Taledonian defensive strategy is same as the ancient Roman one. We have "mobile armies" which sit along close to the borders and make up our forces. Their unique positionings give them the ability to reach the border, or somewhere within the Empire quickly, as to allow minimum damage to the Empire's assets.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Just one more question: How many solar systems are held by the Republic?

I lied. Second question: How many of these big ships does the Republic have? I checked the tech page, and it just gives the stats on these godly ships, but doesn't say how many the Republic has actually managed to construct.

Yeah, I know you meant the jump procedure, I was just explaining that if there is trouble, they don't need to do anything but hit the button and away they go.

And the rift, well, I thought you would understand that. Even cloaked ships would be stopped by the field, and anything within the field that hasn't been given clearance gives off a distortion within the field itself. In your case, since there is no visible ships, they just distort the field, hence the rift.

OOC: Tal, to determine whether or not your FTLi will actually touch my upgraded craft, I need to ask you a few questions.

1 - Exactly how far does your FTLi extend? Is it just in-system FTLi, or does it go around all the empty space of your empire (if goes around all the empty space of your empire, it wouldn't have the strength to stop a shuttle with a half-dead drive, let alone warships)

2 - Wankery. I'm assuming, since you have such wanky FTL, you're going to balance it out by having inferior weapons and shields to those of us who chose to build superior weaponry and the like. If you're going to do another "I'm running from Chronosia with magiczors" wank, I'm going to be mightly annoyed.

OOC: Tal, to determine whether or not your FTLi will actually touch my upgraded craft, I need to ask you a few questions.

1 - Exactly how far does your FTLi extend? Is it just in-system FTLi, or does it go around all the empty space of your empire (if goes around all the empty space of your empire, it wouldn't have the strength to stop a shuttle with a half-dead drive, let alone warships)

2 - Wankery. I'm assuming, since you have such wanky FTL, you're going to balance it out by having inferior weapons and shields to those of us who chose to build superior weaponry and the like. If you're going to do another "I'm running from Chronosia with magiczors" wank, I'm going to be mightly annoyed.

I wish I would have read up on the Taledon tech stuff before I decided to RP within the Republic. As to point 2... yeah... seriously. Impossible to fly with any speed in their territory, they have near-instant travel ships with incredible armour and weaponry... back in the day when I used to do sci-fi rp, I'd avoid rping with that kind of group. :p What's the point when you can't do anything, and it's horrifically one sided?
On the one hand, it's nice to be on the same side as someone who plays godly forces for a change... on the other hand I feel like I'm cheating. :p

Gar: Not sure how many, can't really give an estimate for myself, as I judge things differently. A galaxy to me is like a solar system, and everything is just wierded up for my guys. Don't ask.

And how many big ships, well, depense on what big ships your talking about. Got about twenty Imperial class battle cruisers out there I think.

Oh, and you can do things, it's just so that you can't go "Oh, I jump directly to your capitol, undermining all your defensive formations and going right for the head cheese, yup, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it bitch." I hate that, and have had it done before. I find it more fun if an enemy has to come in, and move through slowly(as in not FTL), taking on every force along the way. Makes for better RPs, and it saves my ass a bit.;)

And I don't have godly armour that is indestructable. You need to view that from an IC perspective. Taledonians are very vain, and we believe we are superior to most others, hence why we say all our stuff is the best. Incredible armour and weaponary as you call it, is basically the same as everyone else's.

HT: Covers about, oh god, I really don't want to think about it. Just think about it this way, you'll be stopped when you come close to any planet, the unoccupied space around them you can go around your merry little way, though we tend to position interceptors(frigates that pull ships out of FTL, got the idea from SW.)

And for 2, not wanking. Your right, as I have said before, can't remember exactly when, but I know I've said it. My nation specialises in speed, so of course my weapons and defenses wont be as good as that. But once again, we should remember the little formulas you shared with me before. I'm not gonna get into all that again, but tech is an extra remember, and with original tech you get the benifit of the doubt I believe.

Plus, stop wasting your time by writting the OOC tags in a thread designed for OOC, just a thought.

OOC: It makes me feel special. They're my tags, and you can't have them! Don't look at me! I'll poke you with my metal poking object!

*runs around screaming*

In all reality, though, this should be a fun little RP. I've only got a third of my strength against the Republic, (of course, we have the AoW and Covenant to back us up, which changes the odds considerably), but we're not really against the Republic. In fact, we'd really rather not trade blows with any Republican nation, bar Taledonia. It's essentially a surgical strike against Taledonia, where we're all attacking Taledonian worlds, and finishing up with a grand finale at Taledon. I mean, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Okay, I've made attempts to understand just how Tal's FTLi works before, but his last post makes all the pieces come together. Just think about it this way, you'll be stopped when you come close to any planet, the unoccupied space around them you can go around your merry little way, though we tend to position interceptors(frigates that pull ships out of FTL, got the idea from SW.)


Thus, I propose the following:
We forget that I ever tried to take out Tal's FTLi. If it's only around planets, I'm happy to RP with it. Is everybody okay with this? I just want a good RP, no flames and ooc bickering. I think this could solve the issue. However, I WILL HOLD YOU TO THE ABOVE QUOTE, TAL.

All settled?

Gar: Not sure how many, can't really give an estimate for myself, as I judge things differently. A galaxy to me is like a solar system, and everything is just wierded up for my guys. Don't ask.

And how many big ships, well, depense on what big ships your talking about. Got about twenty Imperial class battle cruisers out there I think.

Oh, and you can do things, it's just so that you can't go "Oh, I jump directly to your capitol, undermining all your defensive formations and going right for the head cheese, yup, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it bitch." I hate that, and have had it done before. I find it more fun if an enemy has to come in, and move through slowly(as in not FTL), taking on every force along the way. Makes for better RPs, and it saves my ass a bit.;)

And I don't have godly armour that is indestructable. You need to view that from an IC perspective. Taledonians are very vain, and we believe we are superior to most others, hence why we say all our stuff is the best. Incredible armour and weaponary as you call it, is basically the same as everyone else's.

Oh, okay... traveling through a solar system (named by your people as a galaxy) in 5 seconds is more than reasonable. I got confused when I read that galaxy part, and was thinking maybe you had developed space folding technology.

True, it would be annoying having someone show up directly at the homeworld of an empire, and surgically removing the heart of your command, but being unable to get there on anything faster than thrusters is the extreme in the other direction. But you explained that the field is generated around planets, with interceptors scattered around, so that makes more sense. I had envisioned this massive field encompassing multiple solar systems and all the space in between and that sounded a bit crazy.

I think I got confused about the overpowered tech because you were saying all of those things outside of character chat. You may want to try not putting all the racial IC flare into descriptives.

Again, thanks for clearing things up. :)

No prob.

And Kaz, I agree to your proposition, but never ever again try to do business with me when I'm watching porn! Geez, can't get any peace.

Gawd! You're supposed to sign off or put up the busy sign, MSN does that, you know. I'll start a thread for the invasion tomorrow.

Yar. This should be fun.

Well count me in

Sweet. We've got TFU on our side. Btw, TFU, we're doing a lot of war planning over at the AoW (http://s15.invisionfree.com/AllianceofWorlds/index.php?) forums, so, if you want to come along and plot, I'll give you access to our evil plotting forums.

:D

I'll join, but purely as a non-combatant, as I have no weapons technology yet. ;)

Your troops will be used, Gar, under the command of someone else appointed by the Senate.

Your troops will be used, Gar, under the command of someone else appointed by the Senate.

Troops is fine. No qualms about defending the Republic with those. But as of yet, we have not received any weapons technology to help with any sort of space combat. *points to Republic forums* :p

Hmm... Perhaps the new AoW would be a better place for you, we're full of nations willing to help....

Has anyone started this yet? I was going to, but had a forced absence. I'll start it tomorrow. Sorry, guys.

Lies, all lies! I'm sorry guys, but I just don't have the online time to do this for another month. If you'd like to start, I don't mind, just so long as you make fluid time provisions so that all of my allied forces attack simultaniously, no matter when they are actually RPed. (i.e. you can RP it now, but remember that you'll need ships to spare for defending from my forces)

Thanks for understanding.