NationStates Jolt Archive

IC Description: Fliers were sent to every leader of just about every country. Nerotika had come out with a new idea, a tournament. The tournament was a computer simulation fight between the nations of the worlds top elite tast forces. Nerotika has set up the challenge and awaits any nation who dares respond to the fight. The Stadium built by nerotika was like a concert hall except instead of musicians on stage there were large tubes. The tubes were what sent the soldiers into the simulation and above that were 4 TV screens, extremly large. Next to the screens were more screens only smaller. Big enough for people to see, the screens were to capture a first person view of each soldier visitor on the left and home on the left. Sence nerotika would be the home team more often they wrote Nerotika on the left side, it was to light up and glow red once the games begun so everyone knew which side they were on.

Stadium List
Nerotika Central Nagalonia Stadium(NCNS) Located on Sachenn Island, Nerotika
Frozopian Stadium (FS) Located on Sachenn Island, Nerotika

Stadium Simulation Discriptions
NCNS: Urban Environment. Downtown of a city, just the downtown part. Building are bombed out, skyscrappers are collaped in and there are wreckages of tanks and APC's.

Nation Rosters

Nerotikan SET Force Algera (SET= Special Elite Task)
Lt. Karl Danes
Lt. Kustrov Pullotics
Sgt. Andrew Hurandas
Sgt. Vladd Kustivotz
Sgt. Arronica Kulstrat

Frozopian Royal guard:
Lt. William David's
Lt. Conor Anderson
Sgt. Elliot Swift
Pvt. James Gore
Pvt. Michas Rapf

Bravo Team of SSOU (Snake Special Ops Unit)
Lt. Daniel Conners
S/Sgt. Earl Hickey
Pvt. George Donegal
Pvt. Tom Johnson
Pvt. Norm Hooten

A Lesser Land SF Team
Lt. John Fricky
Sgt. Diana Smith
Sgt. Bosko Angst
Pvt. Andy Stroker
Pvt. Nospe Reader

Axinon/Riveaou Shadowwalker core
William Larvonic
Duce Machina
Lethon Larvonic
Thoren Winevon
Ramsey Patricson

Nikocujo Team:
Lt. Col John Rutger, SFOD-D
Major Jeff Walters, SFOD-D
Captain Sean Fuller, Green Berets
Lieutenant Grant Phillips, Navy SEALS
Sgt. Major Mike Digman, USMC Force Recon

Velkya Halo Force:
Unknown names

Nakanaorian Spec Ops Team:
7587703
10124910
82886869
1001211201
11066927

Galashiels Zulu Squad:
Flight Sargeant Watson
Corporal Bain
Bravo:
Sargeant Watt
Corporal Hicks
Charlie:
Sargeant Swan

New Feluca [The Xeno] Fire team (1st Airborne Expeditionary Unit.)
Captain Masterson - Fire Team Leader
Corporal Jones - Radio and Communications
Private Wise - Rifleman
Private Oust - Grenadier
Private Rome - Support

FSF(Frenzian Special Forces):
Sgt Brook (Fire Team Leader)
Corporal Andrews (2 I C)
Pte March(Gunner)
Pte Leslie (Engineer)
Pte Carter (Radio)

Praetorian Guards (Demon 666):
Col. Nikolai Vlaslov
1st. Lt. Kinjiro Ayanami
Sgt. Kenji Masuki
Lt. Col. James Bradley
Col. Richard Wilcox

Participating Nations
Nerotika
Frozopia
Snake Eaters
Demon 666
Axinon
Nikocujo
Velkya
Nakanaori
Galashiels
The Xeno
Frenzia

RULES
1. Each team must only have 5 people.

2. NO GODMODDING.

3. Weapons must be modern/post-modern. NO FUTURE TECH (Or past tech...but that shouldn`t even be a question) To clear post modern read this: Post modern guns are weapons that have been purposed to companies and may come into service before 2020.

So have fun with this, right now I just want lists of squad members (This is just a sign up thread)

Is this intended as a lethal force competition, or a simulation only.
Also how will weaponry be chosen.
Lastly will it be a capture the flag/king of the hill type, or last man standing type?

bump

Im going to start changing alot of what i've already said...so if you have any suggestions or questions just ask. Im still looking for people to join as well.

Bump

I'm willing to set up another stadium, but this one based in the frozen Frozopian country side, maybe with a couple of abandonned villages in the centre. Interested?

My squard:

Frozopian Royal guard:

Lt. William David's
Lt. Conor Anderson
Sgt. Elliot Swift
Pvt. James Gore
Pvt. Michas Rapf

I'm willing to set up another stadium, but this one based in the frozen Frozopian country side, maybe with a couple of abandonned villages in the centre. Interested?

My squard:

Frozopian Royal guard:

Lt. William David's
Lt. Conor Anderson
Sgt. Elliot Swift
Pvt. James Gore
Pvt. Michas Rapf

Yeah thats fine...I've change the setting though so this way no one looses there soldiers (If they are the best your nation has you dont want to loose them in some tournament) I dont know if you were reading my old post on top or my edited one so read the edited one and you`ll see what I mean by changed the setting.

Aw I preferred the fight to the death style. Oh well no biggy.

Aw I preferred the fight to the death style. Oh well no biggy.

yeah but this way it can become like a sport type thing. No one dies so it can go on longer with more matchs. Also Im going to do a discription of each stadium's simulation (Mine is an Urban environment after a carpet bombing) So if you plan to make a stadium I need a name and a discription of your simulation

This could be held in your stadium couldn't it? Unless you want me to host it.

So I just need the computer generated version description: Just a desolate Frozen country side based on real life Frozopian territory, with two small villages in the north and south of the map: The rest hilly and forrested terrain.

This could be held in your stadium couldn't it? Unless you want me to host it.

So I just need the computer generated version description: Just a desolate Frozen country side based on real life Frozopian territory, with two small villages in the north and south of the map: The rest hilly and forrested terrain.

I suppose but then it wouldn`t be conveniant for your nations fans to watch the fights. All you would have to do is take a concert hall, add a few screens so everyone can see whats happening and have the program set up. Or I can take Sachenn Island and turn that into a stadium holder. Like have every nation who is participating build a stadium there and then the fights take place on the Island (See my map for details on where Sachenn is)

SO EVERYONE KNOWS. Nerotika will supply the computer simulators, your nation though must make the progam and the stadium.

Stadium room on Sachenn is now avaliable.
a list of nations who have space on Sachenn are in the first post.

(Frozopia do you want to build a stadium here?)

Actually I would prefer the stadiums close together. I will build it on the island.
And my map will involve an old medieval Castle.

ok so we got your map...anyone else wanna join?

Sure, why not. I'll send in a squad. It's the

Bravo Team of SSOU (Snake Special Ops Unit)
Lt. Daniel Conners
S/Sgt. Earl Hickey
Pvt. George Donegal
Pvt. Tom Johnson
Pvt. Norm Hooten

You only asked for lists of squad members for me, so I'll let you decide the next move.

Ok this is good, we could use some more but other than that I like where this is going. I just want to test the RPing skills of some of the people here so maybe later today i`ll start the IC thread, the test is going to be agenst computer generated terrorist militiamen. unless you want to post what you can do here (Meaning if your bored) I want you to post you men going into the computer simulation, what they do, how they organize themselfs, how they go about distroying the simulations. No one dies so its OK to godmode I just want to see how you do things. I`ll post the first one in the IC thread when I get it up and running. Later that is.

umm...anyone notice that the International Incidents Consolidation (Or whatever) Sticky has 6 post and 6,666 views? thats kinda close to the whole 666 thing ya know?

I know we can't use Future tech weapons, but what about Post Modern or our own weapons?

I know we can't use Future tech weapons, but what about Post Modern or our own weapons?

Well... in if it's a modern day simulation, I would assume that your weapons would come pretty close. Not only that, but Post-Modern is anything that's not coming into service within ten years (( at least, it was the last time I checked it)

weapons I would accept run around the range of going into service before 2020, my military uses the XM-8 a gun thats suppose to come out in 2008 at least. So post modern works as long as its not like lasers or smart bullets thats chase down their targets. I think that makes sence. I`ll add it to the rules in a sec.

Hm ok. What map we gonna do the test on? I'm looking forward to this......

weapons I would accept run around the range of going into service before 2020, my military uses the XM-8 a gun thats suppose to come out in 2008 at least. So post modern works as long as its not like lasers or smart bullets thats chase down their targets. I think that makes sence. I`ll add it to the rules in a sec.
Sorry, have to say this: The XM8 was cancelled by the US military until further notice.

Anyway, I already know the weapons I'll be using.

Sorry, have to say this: The XM8 was cancelled by the US military until further notice.

Anyway, I already know the weapons I'll be using.

ok so I overlooked that...but they did build prototypes and the contract hasn`t exactly been shunned. I still like the gun thought ^.^

So everyone knows im going to start the thread to this either later today, or tommorrow at the latest. Before I do though, how about we make this like the military olympics or somthing? So then we have a catchier name that should get attention. Just a suggestion.

Last note, i`ve decided to ask for weaponry lists. Just revise your roster with your name and weapon.

Be advised, I live in the UK. Currently, it's 21:54... so, my responses might be late.

I think it would just be a chance for elite units for to exchange their ideas and methods, as opposed to a competition.

As for weapons lists, I'll put it here:
Lt. Daniel Conners - HK G416 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/HK416_D145RS.jpg) with attached HK AG36 40mm grenade launcher.Also carries a Glock 20C, Remington 870MCS shotgun (http://ss.hl2files.com/pictures/weapons/Remington%20870MCS/weapon_REM-870MCS.jpg)

S/Sgt. Earl Hickey - HK G36E (http://www.advanced-armament.com/images/products/g36.jpg), FN Five seveN (http://br.geocities.com/francoatiradorwp/fiveseven.gif)

Pvt. George Donegal - SIG 551 (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SACJAkoUr7*uWG*rRDtzsbDYv71E4Kbshk8xEJVoAlTnGMu*G7hcfAn4V3pwejVIU!crxsB9V4rGxKl8lnS3jLA2GKw7KOzh1ZS MMYHn*2s4AAAAynIBAg/Sig%20551-3.JPG?dc=4675489517103968319), HK USP Tactical (http://www.gunshopfinder.com/hk/usptactical.jpg), Remington 870MCS shotgun (http://ss.hl2files.com/pictures/weapons/Remington%20870MCS/weapon_REM-870MCS.jpg)

Pvt. Tom Johnson - L85A2 (http://www.bf2.be/page/wapens_unlockbaar_files/l85.jpg), Browning HP (http://www.arsenal.dvc.pl/galeria/browning-hp9swosw.jpg), Remington 870MCS shotgun (http://ss.hl2files.com/pictures/weapons/Remington%20870MCS/weapon_REM-870MCS.jpg)

Pvt. Norm Hooten - M249 'Minimi' SPW (http://www.groundsystems-index.com/images/fnherstal/SPW.jpg) (Special Purpose Weapon), Glock 17

All primary weapons are equipped with:attached x4 sight,and a suppressor (except the Minimi, which does not carry a suppressor)
All team-members carry M67 Frag Grenades, smoke grenades and white phos. grenades.
They are also all wearing the Interceptor body armour and PLCE webbing.

Lt. John Fricky:XM8,FRANCHI SPAS-15,and two HE grenades
Sgt. Diana Smith:XM8,FNP-90,and two shrapnel grenades
Sgt. Bosko Angst:M249 SAW,LAR grizzly,and four HE gernades
Pvt. Andy Stroker:M650,FNP-90,and two HE grenades
Pvt. Nospe Reader:XM8,a re-modeld M79


well there they are in all there glory.lets get it going.you can find any of these guns at http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm

Axinon/Riveaou Shadowwalker core
William Larvonic
Duce Machina
Lethon Larvonic
Thoren Winevon
Ramsey Patricson

All armed with A-2 assult rifles (custom design, based heavely on the AK-108 with slightly longer effective range) with attached grenade launcher, Glock 17, and two smoke grenades. If I cannot use the A-2, tell me and I will choose a new weapon.

I would like to bump this and add that more members would be a nice thing...

Ive updated the roster list, I still need a few more countires to parcipate but other than that its good so far.

Alright, in two days the IC thread will be created so this is your last chance to join.

Axinon could you please add rank titles to your roster?

I wish we could get about three more teams before the games begin so come on people JOIN UP.

I'll enter my Halo Force.

Names are unknown.

I'll enter my Halo Force.

Names are unknown.

sooo...you`ll be in the games but you dont have a name list? oh well whenever you can get it to me that would be fine.

I'll join. I'll give my roster later. my spec ops extensively use melee weapons as well as ballistics. ummm... i'll post soon. currently at school, so the filters don't let me do much. most of my troops use HK G36k or other varients, as well as mp5k.

do you need a map or something? an arena?

No, I just won't have any real names on my troops.

This IS a clandestine force, if you recall.

Tactical Long Range Recon/ Fast Action Force

Lt. Col John Rutger, SFOD-D
Long Range Sniper school, jump school, ranger school, SF training in Ft. Bragg NC:
-as 50 .50 caliber long range rifle,
-Remington M24 306 scoped long arm,
-S and W tactical .45

Major Jeff Walters, SFOD-D
jump school, ranger school, SF training in Ft. Bragg NC:
-SCAR L 5.56,
-USP tactical .45,
-tactical combat shotgun

Captain Sean Fuller, Green Berets
jump school, ranger school, SF training in Ft. Bragg NC:
-SCAR L 5.56,
-Colt SF .45,
-AT4 anti tank multi purpose launcher

Lieutenant Grant Phillips, Navy SEALS
Passed midshipman Naval Academy, Speacialized individual assesment, SF officer training:
-SCAR H 7.62,
-Sig P228 .40,
-12 g. Combat shotgun

Sgt. Major Mike Digman, USMC Force Recon
Training at Ft. Wayne, officer candidate school, officer school, FR officer training, individual role assesment:
-M249 5.56,
-M9 9mm,
-C4 demolition charges

Note: SCAR L and SCAR H are both FN weapons. Currently in developement in USSOCOM. It will be the primary weapon of Green Berets, US SEALS, and the newly formed USSOCOM varient of the USMC force Recon.

Galashiels
Elite Zulu Team

We wish to apply to this tournament, in reply to your flier that you sent to our nation.

We believe this is the ultimate chance to show our prowess to the rest of the world, even if we are ultimately a young nation.

OOC: Can I enter? Just wanted to ask before I go do my roster.

Yeah you can join, I just need a roster from you Galashiel and same with you Nakanaori

Zulu Squad

Alpha

Flight Sargeant Watson:
L-85A3 5.56mm Rifle
w/ M203A2 40mm Grenade Launcher and SUSAT
M9 9mm Pistol
Hand Grenades
HE 40mm's and Timed 40mm's
40mm Flares
Hi-Power Radio

Corporal Bain:
L-86 5.56mm Light Support Weapon
w/ High Capacity Drum Mags and SUSAT
M9 9mm Pistol
Hand Grenades
Smoke Grenades
Door Charges, C4 and Thermite

Bravo:

Sargeant Watt:
L-1A2 7.62mm Rifle
w/ SUSAT
M9 9mm Pistol
RPG-29 Hi-Power Anti Tank Weapon
Extra AT Rockets
Hand Grenades

Corporal Hicks:
M-60A2E4 7.62mm General Purpose Machine Gun
w/ SUSAT Night Ilumination Sight
M9 9mm Pistol
Extra Ammunition
Hand Grenades
Smoke grenades

Charlie:

Sargeant Swan:
L-96A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle
w/ Quick Bolt Attachment and HiPower Night Sight
MP-5K 9mm Submachine Gun
w/ M9 Mag / MP5 Mag Twin Adapter
Smoke Grenades
HiPower Binoculars
C4

Thats it, I think,

My standard Squad size is 6, so your 5 member rule completely buggered that up :P

New Feluca would like to submit a fire team from the 1st Airborne Expeditionary Unit. Or, 1st AEU.

Captain Masterson - Fire Team Leader
FSCA Armor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10236350&postcount=44)
A1 Assault Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214164&postcount=24) - 12 clips
AP1 Striker Combat Pistol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214238&postcount=25) - 6 clips
M1 Frag Grenade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216610&postcount=27) - x5
M50 Flash-Bang (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216797&postcount=32) - x3
100 round ammunition belt for SAW x2

Corporal Jones - Radio and Communications
FSCA Armor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10236350&postcount=44)
A1 Assault Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214164&postcount=24) - 9 clips
AP1 Striker Combat Pistol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214238&postcount=25) - 5 clips
M1 Frag Grenade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216610&postcount=27) - x4
M50 Flash-Bang (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216797&postcount=32) - x2
Batallion Radio
100 round ammunition belt for SAW x2

Private Wise - Rifleman
FSCA Armor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10236350&postcount=44)
A1 Assault Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214164&postcount=24) -16 clips
AP1 Striker Combat Pistol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214238&postcount=25) - 7 clips
M1 Frag Grenade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216610&postcount=27) - x7
M50 Flash-Bang (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216797&postcount=32) - x3
AT1 Anti-Tank (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216701&postcount=30) - 3 rounds


Private Oust - Grenadier
FSCA Armor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10236350&postcount=44)
A1 Assault Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214164&postcount=24) -12 clips
M200 Grenade Launcher Attachment (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216677&postcount=29) -12 rounds
AP1 Striker Combat Pistol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10214238&postcount=25) - 5 clips
M1 Frag Grenade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216610&postcount=27) - x5
M50 Flash-Bang (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216797&postcount=32) - x3
100 round ammunition belt for SAW

Private Rome - Support
FSCA Armor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10236350&postcount=44)
M100 SAW (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216659&postcount=28) - 1,150 rounds
M1 Frag Grenade (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10216610&postcount=27) - x1
M90 Claymore - x4
M91 AP Mine - x3

Alright, you're using British standard weapons, except the M60, but I can forgive :D. The rifle (both the SA80 and the older, but more powerful, SLR), the L96 and the LSW. Nice, I like British things (seeing as I am British).

One thing: the current issue L85 is the A2 model, and it can't carry the M203. It is able to carry the H&K AG36 launcher though, which is also a 40mm grenade launcher, so in practice it operates in exactly the same way.

Plus, all SUSAT's are night-vision capable to some degree, due to the 'T' standing for Trilux, a compound which offers some form of night-vision. However, it's not as good as pure night-vision goggles. To show you how truly sad I am :p SUSAT stands for Sight Unit Small Arms Trilux.

I'm nitpicking really, it's just that I'm really into realism with RP's. Irregardless, it's a good line-up of weapons, explosives and heavier firepower. I look forward to seeing if you can live up to your line-up.

Nakanaorian Spec Ops Team

7587703
Primary: HK G36K
Secondary: HK MP5Ka4
Secondary: HK USP
Melee: Black nonreflective kodachi
Other:

8 HE fragmentation grenades
2 flash bangs
2 smoke grenades
extra ammuntion
silencer for primary and secondary weapon
NOD
NBC gear


10124910
Primary: HK G36E
Secondary: Colt 1911
Melee: Black nonreflective kodachi
Other:

8 HE fragmentation grenades
2 flash bangs
2 smoke grenades
extra ammuntion
silencer for primary and secondary weapon
NOD
NBC gear


82886869
Primary: HK MP5
Tactical Shield
Secondary: HK G36K
Secondary: Colt 1911
Melee: Black nonreflective kodachi
Other:

8 HE fragmentation grenades
2 flash bangs
2 smoke grenades
extra ammuntion
silencer for primary and secondary weapon
NOD
NBC gear


1001211201
Primary: M16 w/ M203 grenade launcher
Secondary: HK USP
Melee: Black nonreflective kodachi
Other:

8 HE fragmentation grenades
2 flash bangs
2 smoke grenades
extra ammuntion
silencer for primary and secondary weapon
NOD
NBC gear


11066927
Primary: HK G36K
Secondary: HK MP5Ka4
Secondary: Colt 1911
Melee: Black nonreflective kodachi
Other:

8 HE fragmentation grenades
2 flash bangs
2 smoke grenades
extra ammuntion
silencer for primary and secondary weapon
NOD
NBC gear

Alright, you're using British standard weapons, except the M60, but I can forgive :D. The rifle (both the SA80 and the older, but more powerful, SLR), the L96 and the LSW. Nice, I like British things (seeing as I am British).

One thing: the current issue L85 is the A2 model, and it can't carry the M203. It is able to carry the H&K AG36 launcher though, which is also a 40mm grenade launcher, so in practice it operates in exactly the same way.

Plus, all SUSAT's are night-vision capable to some degree, due to the 'T' standing for Trilux, a compound which offers some form of night-vision. However, it's not as good as pure night-vision goggles. To show you how truly sad I am :p SUSAT stands for Sight Unit Small Arms Trilux.

I'm nitpicking really, it's just that I'm really into realism with RP's. Irregardless, it's a good line-up of weapons, explosives and heavier firepower. I look forward to seeing if you can live up to your line-up.


The GPMG is just far too heavy for Spec Ops use, I think - they are absolutely massive!

The A3 version is my update, kinda my own thing. I hated getting all the "your rifle is an unreliable piece of crap" comments, so its kinda reworked. The front plastic casing is modified so it can accept the M203, which has proved itself to be reliable - I just don't trust em Germans. Even though they modified the L-85 in the first place...hmm....

Basically, these are SUSAT's with proper night vision modifiers on them. I knew about the Trilux, it's jsut it really isn't that good. Great Scope, though.

I look forward to seeing how your...interesting blend of weapons goes :D I have a nice ammo-friendly line up going, it should be good seeing if it works.

HK rock.

i think it would be interesting if we just had our spec ops teams totally unarmed then issued a totally alien (unfamiliar) gun and see how they fair against each other.

The A3 version is my update, kinda my own thing. I hated getting all the "your rifle is an unreliable piece of crap" comments, so its kinda reworked. The front plastic casing is modified so it can accept the M203, which has proved itself to be reliable - I just don't trust em Germans. Even though they modified the L-85 in the first place...hmm....

I look forward to seeing how your...interesting blend of weapons goes :D I have a nice ammo-friendly line up going, it should be good seeing if it works.
The blend looks interesting, but in actual fact all of those weapons are 5.56mm. It's the pistols that are all different, and that's based on different tastes. The reasons they are different is because I encourage my Spec Ops teams to have their own personal weapons. Still learn to use everything else, but if you know your own weapon inside out, you know what it's capable of.

The A2 isn't a crap weapon. It was designed for the climate we live in, and in those climates is far superior to anything else in the world in terms of accuracy and reliability. However, the problems started when it went out of the area is was designed for, which was an oversight when it was designed. The A2 worked out a lot of those kinks. It's still more reliable than the M16, which you have to clean so more reguarly. I've got one of my guys carrying the A2 as the marksman of the team, beacuse it's so accurate.

~sbi[~
It'd be pretty hard to give a well-trained Spec Ops team a completley unfamilar weapon, as they'd have been trained in the identification and service of plently of weapons, and all of them share some similarity.

well this is going well. Alright i`ll update.

When will we know results?

Nerotika SET Force Weapons List (Thought I should get this down...so everyone knows, the weapon list wont be on the roster. If someone wants to see the guns the troops use they can look for the weapons post themselfs. Also, I like the armor Xeno is using, its the same kind Im using, very nice...very nice^.^)

All troops use FSCA Full body Armor as well as four clips of ammo for each gun all carried on a belt. All guns can be found at world.guns.ru

Lt. Karl Danes
XM-8 Assault Rifle (Grenade Launcher Attached)
Colt .45 A1911 Pistol
2x Frag Grenade
2x Smoke Grenade

Lt. Kustrov Pullotics
FN SCAR
Type 05
Auto Mag model 180 .44AMP
4x Frag Grenade

Sgt. Andrew Hurandas
XM-8 Assault Rifle
Interchangable MG option parts for XM-8
Colt .45 A1911 Pistol
3x Frag Grenade
3x Smoke Grenade
3x Flash Bang Grenade

Sgt. Vladd Kustivotz
XM-8 Assault Rifle (Scoped)
PP-2000
4x Flash Bang Grenade
2x Frag Grenade

Sgt. Arronica Kulstrat
FN SCAR (Grenade Launcher Attached)
Colt .45 A1911 Pistol
M1 Garand Rifle
4x Frag Grenade

When will we know results?

Results as in?

If its not to late I would like to join.If there is a choice I would like the Frozopian Stadium.

FSF(Frenzian Special Forces)

Sgt Brook (Fire Team Leader)

C-7-A1,Browning 9mm,3 frag grenades,2 smoke grenades.

Corporal Andrews (2 I C)

C-7-A1,Browning 9mm,3 frag grenades,2 smoke grenades.

Pte March(Gunner)

C9-A1 Light Machine Gun,Browning 9mm,2 frag grenades,1 smoke grenade.

Pte Leslie (Engineer)

Remington 870 Shotgun,M72 anti armour,Browning 9mm,C-4,1 frag grenade,3 smoke grenades.

Pte Carter (Radio)
C-7-A1,Browning 9mm,3 frag grenades,2 smoke grenades.

I would name my weaponry, but Im crap with technical stuff and they all use Frozopian own weapons.

Basically they all use Semi-Automatic rifles, with 2 snipers, and a selection of pistols, grenades, flashbangs and smoke grenades.

Also kevlar armour.

Screw that last comment. What do you think about the SCAR? Statisticaly, the L is a better with control. But it is a 5.56. The 7.62 is a heavy weapon. That's why commando teams that use Kalashnikov weapons prefer the AK74 which is the 5.56.

Screw that last comment. What do you think about the SCAR? Statisticaly, the L is a better with control. But it is a 5.56. The 7.62 is a heavy weapon. That's why commando teams that use Kalashnikov weapons prefer the AK74 which is the 5.56.

Alright, once more I must demostrate me sadness and lack of a real life. Nah, I'm just kidding, I do have a real life, but this is an interest.

The AK74 uses the 5.45mm Russian round. It's smaller than the 5.56 NATO, and tumbles more, thus making it's injuries worse. Not an accident, before anyone asks.

The SCAR? The SCAR-L (5.56mm) is always going to be more controllable, because it uses an intermediate round. The H, like you say, is a 7.62mm. Packs more power, but it's heavier and gives a nasty recoil. On the plus side, it can use more than one kind of 7.62mm ammunition, so it's really personal choice. You stand more chance of knocking a man down with one shot with the 7.62 though.

I also ask the question as to when we will begin.

If its not to late I would like to join.If there is a choice I would like the Frozopian Stadium.

FSF(Frenzian Special Forces)

Sgt Brook (Fire Team Leader)

C-7-A1,Browning 9mm,3 frag grenades,2 smoke grenades.

Corporal Andrews (2 I C)

C-7-A1,Browning 9mm,3 frag grenades,2 smoke grenades.

Pte March(Gunner)

C9-A1 Light Machine Gun,Browning 9mm,2 frag grenades,1 smoke grenade.

Pte Leslie (Engineer)

Remington 870 Shotgun,M72 anti armour,Browning 9mm,C-4,1 frag grenade,3 smoke grenades.

Pte Carter (Radio)
C-7-A1,Browning 9mm,3 frag grenades,2 smoke grenades.

nope not to late to join, i`ll add you now. The thread will start tomorrow so you all know, and im going to set up matchs as well. It will be random, I dont know I think i`ll write your names on pieces of paper and just toss them around till I get results.

Go read Black Hawk Down, and combat histories from Vietnam. The 5.56mm is just not powerful enough to deck a man in one shot - the 7.62 is more than enough, generally.

Still, I arm some of my troops with 5.56 weapons - they are lighter and more use as a mobile squad.

Go read Black Hawk Down, and combat histories from Vietnam. The 5.56mm is just not powerful enough to deck a man in one shot - the 7.62 is more than enough, generally.

Still, I arm some of my troops with 5.56 weapons - they are lighter and more use as a mobile squad.
Read Black Hawk Down. Randy Shugart used a Vietnam-era M14, whilst the other Delta operators were mostly using 5.56 carbines, like the CAR-15. Also, don't forget that they were using green-tip rounds, generally used against body armour, not unarmoured men, that's one of the reasons they weren't getting one shot kills.

5.56 weapons are much more common these days due to weight issues. Also, you can carry more rounds for the same weight. I do the same thing for the MT version of my nation for the basic infantry.

Alright, once more I must demostrate me sadness and lack of a real life. Nah, I'm just kidding, I do have a real life, but this is an interest.

The AK74 uses the 5.45mm Russian round. It's smaller than the 5.56 NATO, and tumbles more, thus making it's injuries worse. Not an accident, before anyone asks.

The SCAR? The SCAR-L (5.56mm) is always going to be more controllable, because it uses an intermediate round. The H, like you say, is a 7.62mm. Packs more power, but it's heavier and gives a nasty recoil. On the plus side, it can use more than one kind of 7.62mm ammunition, so it's really personal choice. You stand more chance of knocking a man down with one shot with the 7.62 though.

I also ask the question as to when we will begin.
From what i gather from my uncle who is a government contractor, The new SCAR prototype is going to fit different magezines from hostile weapons. If they run out, they just grab a couple from a dead guy and they're good to go.

Edit:I read through and found my answer,the Frozopian arena is more open so instead of one of my riflemen I will have a sniper.Instead of the C9-A1 my gunner has he will carry C6-A1.

when is the main thread going to be started?

From what i gather from my uncle who is a government contractor, The new SCAR prototype is going to fit different magezines from hostile weapons. If they run out, they just grab a couple from a dead guy and they're good to go.
Sounds about right. That's the rumours I'd heard as well.

You say PMT is allowed? How allowed is it? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=447922)

You say PMT is allowed? How allowed is it? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=447922)
I think, personally, that destroys the spirit of this idea. But that's just me.

ummm..looks more futuristic then PMT but yeah i`ll go with the whole distroying the idea of things and such. Just stick with things that actually could be real...in like ten or fifteen years.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN, HERE YA GO EVERYONE

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10807556#post10807556

Do I have to wait for all of the other teams to fight before I get to or are all of the battles happening at the same time.Also which arena is this taking place at?

I'm not RPing with late-PMT stuff, I'm afraid. Those suits would vastly put the battle in your favor.

BTW, my troops exact araments are secret, but there's nothing in there heavier than a man-portable, shoulder fired, recoiless rifle. Basically, a five man team with two riflemen (both equipped with Kriegzimmer RRs), a SAW gunner, a sniper, and a spotter.

And I use a round around 6.2mm for a balanced effect on my main infantry rifles, but 5.56mm is used on smaller, lighter rifles.

Despite the fact that the restriction is five men? You have to get rid of one, Velkya, or you're breaking the rules.

Also, would like to include my own map: link (http://uk.media.ps2.ign.com/media/568/568333/img_2348399.html)

That's the exterior to the building. Inside, it's like any other office block, only completley trashed. There's also some wide open spaces like storage bays.

Get rid of the spotter. There's no need for one in most of these maps.

I'm not going to bother with a map :P I'll just kick all your asses on your home turf :D

The sniper-spotter thing is essential to a sniper team. I'll nerf a rifleman.

I'm not going to bother with a map :P I'll just kick all your asses on your home turf :D
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Despite the fact that none of it is real, just simulations. Interesting...

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Despite the fact that none of it is real, just simulations. Interesting...

You know what I mean.

Nah, I did a Special Forces RP ages ago with Special Forces, The Meccabees and Space Union, but that was against regular forces who you also controlled, not other teams. So this should be interesting.

Hope everyone RP's to a decent standard, I can see a lot of far-stretched godmodding. The usual blend of shooting grenades out the sky, never being killed by a frag and seeming to be everywhere at once. I hope theres none of that, anyway.

You know what I mean.

Nah, I did a Special Forces RP ages ago with Special Forces, The Meccabees and Space Union, but that was against regular forces who you also controlled, not other teams. So this should be interesting.

Hope everyone RP's to a decent standard, I can see a lot of far-stretched godmodding. The usual blend of shooting grenades out the sky, never being killed by a frag and seeming to be everywhere at once. I hope theres none of that, anyway.

This raises the question of: who were you before then? This nation only has 12 posts on the forum.

1st nation: Freedom Country
2nd nation: Kazakhstania
3rd Nation: Freedomia

This is my 4th nation. Freedom Country was one of the first 500, I believe. Got him to way over 10,000 posts.

I think I did a project with you at some point in the past. I probably did, you seem like the kinda knowledgable person I'd do that with, as a pose to "LOL GUNS LOL" from everyone else :D

1st nation: Freedom Country
2nd nation: Kazakhstania
3rd Nation: Freedomia

This is my 4th nation. Freedom Country was one of the first 500, I believe. Got him to way over 10,000 posts.

I think I did a project with you at some point in the past. I probably did, you seem like the kinda knowledgable person I'd do that with, as a pose to "LOL GUNS LOL" from everyone else :D
Your second nation I remember... cannot remember where though.

There isn't a spot open for this, is there?

I love how people sign up for this stuff, then never post.

If there is a spot open, I'm well up for it. :D
Why do I always miss this stuff in the early stages? Frozo is the only guy who'll have seen me RP here, so I'm happy to go through a qualifying round if you want.
Assuming you say yes, my force will be five of the Terror Incognitia Royal Marines. These will be;

Colour Sergeant Nomara, carrying an HK ACR, with low-light sight for engagement to 600m. (standard equipment)

Sergeant Knox, carrying HK LSW (ACR based), loaded from a 300-round box. Same sighting arrangement.

Corporal McNamara, carrying Alliant XM 25 grenade launcher.

Lance Corporal Keane, standard weapons load.

Lance Corporal Cameron, standard weapons load.

All members are equipped with the US Army's '2010' Future Combat System Program Body Armour (only with a lot of the computerised complication removed to make it more rugged; basic comms and tactical functionality only); small quantities of hand-thrown fragmentation, 'flash-bang' and smoke grenades (all pretty standard, those); five spare magazines for their weapon (except the LSW gunner, he has three) - with the HK ACR, that means two alongside the clip currently loaded and three in PLCE.
Apart from the HK LSW, as far as I can tell all these weapons have been prototyped, just not brought into service (yet?). The body armour likewise.

I can add some more people during the second round, so just wait untill then...till then though feel free to watch the matchs progress.

OOC I just realized...

NEROTIKA YOU STOLE MY IDEA ><...

Too late to sign up?

I can add some more people during the second round, so just wait untill then...till then though feel free to watch the matchs progress.

Ok, thanks. Sounds good.

Also I might replace some inactive people...so far I think im going to replace A Lesser Land cause I was in a RP with him awhile back and he didn` do much. So actually if you want to take his place you can

pyschotika...yeah you can join up, but like I said it would have to be second round or if someone goes inactive.

Are we waiting till after your match then we go to ours?

Hmm, I'd like to join, but before i make a roster i wana know if i can use my nations own weapons (pretty much equal to modern weapons) and i also wana know if chemical warfare is allowed?

Also i would like to propose a map, concisting of a large blown to hell industrial area with lots leaked hazardous material, made upp of a few broken factory buildings with lots of catwalks, broken machines and rubble while the terrain on the outside is pretty much a stalingrad exaguration.

Are we waiting till after your match then we go to ours?

no you can go, but I think the next match is Frozopia and...Galashiels or however its spelled.

i'll wait. i want to see ur match. my opponent is "afk"

Replace my opponent, please. He hasn't posted at all.

I'm still watching this thread; if you want to jump in I can post as soon as the Arsenal-Villareal match is over...
(21:30 British time) ((2/1/4 hours))

i'll wait. i want to see ur match. my opponent is "afk"

ok so we need to replacments, I need one sence mine just disappeared. and Xeno needs one...if you would like Xeno I could bump you up agenst me?

ok so we need to replacments, I need one sence mine just disappeared. and Xeno needs one...if you would like Xeno I could bump you up agenst me?

Doesn't particularly matter to me.

Doesn't particularly matter to me.

alright then its going to be me and you, our match can go either right now or we can wait.

alright then its going to be me and you, our match can go either right now or we can wait.

Whatever you'd like.

yay! people started RPing!

sence nerotika took me off first round roster, i`ll take on Terror Incognitia instead, but I demand to be on in first round.

sence nerotika took me off first round roster, i`ll take on Terror Incognitia instead, but I demand to be on in first round.

He took you off because you weren't around. We're not waiting on you.

I'm happy to take on A Lesser Land, but only if it will be considered a part of the broader RP, in other words if others are happy with that.

I'm happy to take on A Lesser Land, but only if it will be considered a part of the broader RP, in other words if others are happy with that.

alright i`ll arange that, when the matchs ahead of you are up then you can go. Right now the two stadiums that are up are being used. If you want a map create a stadium and make a map of your map. Let it be small though sense it is one 5 on 5 squad based.

I'll pass on a stadium thanks. And unless you advise otherwise I'll wait to post my guys' arrival in Nerotika until a match is over, so as not to interrupt the flow of things.

I have a problem with scopes that can see through thick stone walls. It's not possible, and doesn't look hugely likely in the next decade. Thermal vision through thin walls... acceptable.

I say it now, because otherwise we'll degenerate into shouts of 'GODMODDER. I pwn you n00bs with my u1tra-5uper 5c0pe5!' And so on and so forth.

And for the record, anyone who speaks l33t speak... gah, I might just have to declare war on you ;) should you use in it anything other than a slightly humourous context (see above)

I have a problem with scopes that can see through thick stone walls. It's not possible, and doesn't look hugely likely in the next decade. Thermal vision through thin walls... acceptable.

I say it now, because otherwise we'll degenerate into shouts of 'GODMODDER. I pwn you n00bs with my u1tra-5uper 5c0pe5!' And so on and so forth.

And for the record, anyone who speaks l33t speak... gah, I might just have to declare war on you ;) should you use in it anything other than a slightly humourous context (see above)

ummm yeah...exactly thats totally what I was thinking...now if only I understood who or what you were talking about.

Yes, I can understand that. But to be able to see me, there must be a hole in the wall, or you have to be peering round a wall.

No matter how small the hole, the image of a white hot dot in the middle of a blue cold stone wall will show up on any scope.

Also, if you are peering round the wall, the air around someone has a slight IR signature as well, as it is heated up by the person. So even if only the side of your face and the rifle are showing round the corner, the air around the person will draw attention.

What I am saying as that I am NOT seeing through the wall. I am seeing the holes in it. And it's slightly suspicious when several of these IR dots dissapear and reappear on the other side of the castle, you know what I'm saying?

Just say if you have a fundamental problem with seeing holes in a wall and I'll change my tactics. :rolleyes:

BTW, an AT rocket would only produce a hole about the size of a dime in a stone wall. ermm... i'm at school and there are filters, so i'll post the link later on tonight. The rocket wouldn't collapse the tower, lest blow a hole in the wall. if it did, it would have to directly hit the person to kill, but can instead cause overpressuring and incapacitate him.

Yes, I can understand that. But to be able to see me, there must be a hole in the wall, or you have to be peering round a wall.

No matter how small the hole, the image of a white hot dot in the middle of a blue cold stone wall will show up on any scope.

Also, if you are peering round the wall, the air around someone has a slight IR signature as well, as it is heated up by the person. So even if only the side of your face and the rifle are showing round the corner, the air around the person will draw attention.

What I am saying as that I am NOT seeing through the wall. I am seeing the holes in it. And it's slightly suspicious when several of these IR dots dissapear and reappear on the other side of the castle, you know what I'm saying?

Just say if you have a fundamental problem with seeing holes in a wall and I'll change my tactics. :rolleyes:

It depends on the size of the hole really. You'd have to be very specific about how big the holes in the walls are going to be. For example, although the spot of heat is a good theory, what it's literally like the eye of a needle kinda hole. You've got to watch that, because otherwise you'll be going around saying you can see everything all the time, which is a) godmodding and b) ruins the spirit.

Hm I wish I had been keeping up with this OOC thread, because so far I've been letting Galash run his way.......

So my new reinforced oppinion. I think its unfair that you can spot my troops who are inside the building: On the battlements and in the tower yes, but mainly no elsewhere...

I will wait for galash's post on the whole exploding tower incident. I've editted it once, but if I did this wrong then I may have to re-edit it.

ok, so i've found the site for the AT4.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/23-25/23250068.gif

the above is from a military field manuel.
Field Manuel (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/23-25/index.html)

By the way, it isn't in the rules of the game that you can't bring an AT rocket with you. The Xeno has effectively brought an M-136 and Veklya has some recoilless rifles (of Carl Gustav aka the M3 AT Weapons System fame), so I see nothing wrong there.

I'll look at it the murder holes in a slightly nicer light. If you remember Bisons / Dark Terror, he'd have been shooting at the snipers inside by now. Generally, murder holes are large enough for the rifle and scope, plus room to move it around for different firing angles. I'd give it about 20cm by 20. Depends on the distances really - at a few hundred metres that would be visible through a scope (since a trained sniper can hit someone between the eyes at 300m).

Anything more than that and it might be difficult to make out - distances weren't made clear in the map I was given.

Also, the RP-29 fires the PG-29V warhead. More info at http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl04-e.htm

"When used against buildings or entrenchments, the PG-29V can penetrate more than 1,5 meter (5ft) of concrete or brick wall and then cause significant damage to troops beyond the wall."

By the way, that is a US field manual for the AT-4. the RPG-29 is NOT like the AT-4 - different warhead, different ball game.

Erm by Murder holes I mean old medieval ones. Im not sure if you meant they were 20 by 20 (because I thought they were smaller) but you make it sound like your talking about modern ones (if they exist, which I guess they do) because you say you leave room for sniper flexibility.

Im willing to join and set up a Third arena, this time on one of my islands.

Any smaller than 20 by twenty and its totally impractical for a modern rifle. Sure, you could probably fit the barrel through something about 5 by 5, but you wouldnt be able to see out. Similarly, if its about 12 by 12, you could fit the rifle and scope through, but would have a firing angle of a couple of degrees.

Trust me, 20 by 20 is the minimum for effective sniper usage, medieval or not.

OOC: My point was it was medieval and didnt give a damn about modern sniping, but since I've kind been using them to sniper I guess your right.

*twiddles thumbs whilst he waits for his match. Lightbulb flashes*

Why not have a few other threads, to allow different matches in different threads?

*twiddles thumbs whilst he waits for his match. Lightbulb flashes*

Why not have a few other threads, to allow different matches in different threads?

*Brakes his lightbulb*

NO...bad, bad you dont do that NO.

*Pulls out a squirt bottle and squirts him.*

*Breaks his lightbulb*

NO...bad, bad you dont do that NO.

*Pulls out a squirt bottle and squirts him.*
Well... that was random. If this wasn't purely OOC, you would feel the wrath of the Cobra..

Seriously though, that was uncalled for. Let us not degrade into stupidity.

When you make seperate threads, people tend to wander off and forget about them.

When you make seperate threads, people tend to wander off and forget about them.

exactly...thats why I did the stupid little intermission thing. Sorry for that but it was all I could think of doing.

so yah im makeing an arena on sacheen island so deal with it

http://www.colossalcave.com/images/cavern_map.gif this is the map ohhhhhhhhhhh spoooooooooooooooky cave

T.I. do you want to go now?

Happy to. Main thread is a bit busy, people have said they want it all to stay on one thread....don't know how to solve that one. But yeah, I'm happy to start fighting.

ok so i`ll set it up for y'all, just post an arrival post and then also post somthing about your troops arriving at the arena.

whenever Frenzia is ready, i'll be!

Do I win by default, since my opponent hasn't bothered to post in the IC thread for 3 days, but has been posting regularly elsewhere?

I'm ready,as I said before I want to fight in a village at night,during a mustard gas attack.The village will be surrounded by a forest and one team will start 1 kilometer north of the village and one will start one kilometer south of the village.

ok... lol. care to draw a map? mustard gas... owwiee...

Out of curiosity, I am not allowed to join at this point, right?

Out of curiosity, I am not allowed to join at this point, right?

People are still allowed to join its just were still on the first two matchs, maybe thrid if A lesser Land ever posts. If you want infact if anyone wants to take A Lesser Lands position agenst T.I. then go ahead. Round two will be more orginized so you might want to get back to me wheen that comes up.

ROLL CALL

I need to know who's still here, please say no one abandoned us. I am to lazy to scroll down so the dude talking about the mustard gas map. If you want to go now agenst that Naka blahde blahde guy then just post arrival to arena. I just going to claim that there are like four arena's in this, if you want t make a map then go ahead and do that, or just look for a small village map that you can use.

So I was thinking about the other threads in this and it might be that we will have to, BUT only either I or whoever else I appoint as a coordinater can create the threads, and they will be on a list on the first page in this thread. Sound good?

I'm here, ready and waiting for my match against whoever. I'm happy for that to be 666 if we want to play it that way.

I'm still around, just waiting to make sure Velkya is still here, and also the fact that these matches have taken forever to do. Not anyone's fault.

still here, waiting for frenzia for map or something...

So can I join?
Team roster has been sent:
All 5 are members of the elite Praetorian Guards, of which there are only 10.
1. Col. Nikolai Vlaslov
2. 1st. Lt. Kinjiro Ayanami
3. Sgt. Kenji Masuki
4. Lt. Col. James Bradley
5. Col. Richard Wilcox

Ok sorry,I'm still here.I don't really want to make a map,if you want to make one you can.

So can I join?
Team roster has been sent:
All 5 are members of the elite Praetorian Guards, of which there are only 10.
1. Col. Nikolai Vlaslov
2. 1st. Lt. Kinjiro Ayanami
3. Sgt. Kenji Masuki
4. Lt. Col. James Bradley
5. Col. Richard Wilcox

your going to take ALL place agenst T.I. so go into the MST thread and post your arrival, T.I. sorry about the slow timing. ALL is going to be officialy pulled out of this for inactivity.

Phew, that was fun. :) Your guys needed to do more shooting, Nero. :p

I've posted in that thread

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/daretorun/Mapflat.jpg

Here it is Frenzia!!! The map. you start in the hills to the south, i start on the plateau in the north.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/daretorun/MovementMap1.jpg

Movement Map for Frenzia and Nakanaori's match.

How did you make this map...well, what I mean is what did you make it with.

I searched for "village" on Yahoo! images. Downloaded the buildings and trees and rivers from the site (http://www.overseer3d.com/Gallery/Cc). I used photoshop to edit the landscape and stuff. If you want maps, I could make them, i guess... just tell me the parameters and key features and i'll try to make one. the units are just photoshopped circles with lines. I keep them on different layers so i can move them around.

I searched for "village" on Yahoo! images. Downloaded the buildings and trees and rivers from the site (http://www.overseer3d.com/Gallery/Cc). I used photoshop to edit the landscape and stuff. If you want maps, I could make them, i guess... just tell me the parameters and key features and i'll try to make one. the units are just photoshopped circles with lines. I keep them on different layers so i can move them around.

Well...think you can make me a map?

I wanted somthing more detailed at least...like have a full discription and all you would have to do is make a small four block thing, a line of houses or somthing to some of them...I`ll explain it more if you agree.

sure... i'll make one for you... you want a four-block town type thing? like a street with houses? A full description....? of the map or of the buildings and streets and such? or of the making process? ime confused. I'll try to get the buildings as detailed as possible, but i'm only using photoshop, so... yea...

sure... i'll make one for you... you want a four-block town type thing? like a street with houses? A full description....? of the map or of the buildings and streets and such? or of the making process? ime confused. I'll try to get the buildings as detailed as possible, but i'm only using photoshop, so... yea...

Basically like a four way intersection with the four blocks set around, you can even make the intersection kinda slanted with a traintrack running through it. I want it to kinda look like it was inside of a city so a regular store type place, or an outdoor mall (A long building with various stores) just put in. You dont need to go into much detail outside of he squard sence im saying that the city in in complete devestation, or maybe its in the middle of a city battle or somthing. Either way along one side though houses would be good, I wish I could draw a map but...thats why im asking you to I cant draw anything that good, I could maybe draw a rough draft or somthing...but that would take awhile. Anyway I dont know if that discription is to confusing but it kinda makes sence I hope.

OOC: Meow.

[ Is there still room for another squad? ]

So.. erm. Since I won my match, what am I supposed to be doing? :p

wait for the others i guess!

What's the status of the other matches anyway?
Cuz I think ours should be done soon.

Frenzia and I just started. He's lost one man. The rest of the team is healthy. my team is full and healthy.

So.. erm. Since I won my match, what am I supposed to be doing? :p

Well I can set you up against...wait who won the Galashiels vs (That other dude)'s match?

Ok... so mapped out the church as best i could.

Map One - See through church
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/daretorun/Townflatflat.jpg

Map Two - Expanded Church for Enhanced Viewing
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/daretorun/Town2.jpg

neritoka, i can't make ur map, i'm just too busy with other things, sorry!:(

Well I can set you up against...wait who won the Galashiels vs (That other dude)'s match?

Meh. I'm not too keen on that. Those guys went on foooooorever in their squad vs squad match. I hate playing against people that refuse to take logical casulties.

Besides dude.. you need to step in and put the law down on the MST thread. There's people tossing 10lb packets of C4 around at point-blank range and refusing to take casulties.

Demon tossed a lump of C4, then accepted that the men doing the chucking were as dead as the man (of mine) who had it chucked at him. The problem that leaves us with is everyone on both sides now being dead.
So we need a judgement on who's won, alternatively to play some form of decider (one-on-one?)

Like I said, I'll take a one-on-one.