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News Thread of France, 1872 RP (closed)

Madnestan
11-04-2006, 18:31
Republic of France

Head of State:
Adolphe Thiers (Conservative Party (AKA Right Wing Bourgher Bastards))

Head of Government:
Prime Minister Jules Dufaure (Moderate Republicans)

Legislative Body:
2-House Parliament, consisting National Assembly and the Senate.

Parties/Political groups that refuse to aknowledge the system and it's legistlative power:
Anarchosyndicalist Labour Union, Socialist Party, Communists, Left-Wing Alliance.

Capital: Paris

Population: No Clue, trying to find out...

Colonies:
Africa
Algeria
Gold Coast,
French West Africa (not more than strong influense and a chain of trading posts and bases along the coast yet),
French Equatorial Africa (the same as above),
Djibouti (most of it).

Oseania:
Nouvelle-Calédonie,
Nouveau-Dauphiné,
Tahiti.

Kindoms of Samoa and Tonga are considered as puppets.

America:
Martinique, Guadeloupe, and Dominica in Caribbean,
French Guyana.
Yucatán peninsula,
St. Pierre et Miquelon and fishery rights in the Gulf of St. Lawrence.

Asia:
Pondicherry, Karikal, Yanaon, Mahé, and Chandernagore in India,
Comoros, Mauritius and Réunion,
Cochin-China (a base in Indochina),
Cambodia as a protectorate.



Military:

(coming later)


International relations:

Allied to:
N/A

In war against:
N/A

Belligerent Disposition:
Germany,
Spain.

Friendly Disposition:
Britain,
Russia,
Ottoman Empire.
Manarth
11-04-2006, 20:49
Ha! Tagged before Ottomans could do it!
Kroando
11-04-2006, 21:00
This should help your population problem. (http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Europe/francec.htm)
Ottoman Khaif
11-04-2006, 22:49
Ha! Tagged before Ottomans could do it!
Damn you Manarth...I'll get you for this..
Madnestan
12-04-2006, 11:48
Just to let you guys know, I'm out of the city for few days now, back in tuesday - propably unable to post until then.
Waldenburg 2
16-04-2006, 22:05
OOC EDIT: Sorry forgot to say disregard, I wrote so many letters
Madnestan
17-04-2006, 21:37
We don't feel like commiting suicide at this point. Sorry.
Franberry
17-04-2006, 21:40
Argentina would liek to send a team of diplomats to France. To establish (or expand) the Argentinian embassy in Paris
Madnestan
17-04-2006, 21:45
Argentinian approach is accepted with rejoice. May our relations in terms of both economy and diplomacy grow strong and bring prosperity to both of us.
Madnestan
17-04-2006, 22:57
France claims Tunisia and Algeria as its protectorates!
To make this announcement affect in the real life;

A strong naval force, built around the Provence Class Broadside Ironclads
Flandre, Gauloise, Guyenne, Magnanime, Provence, Revanche and Savoie and three of newest and strongest naval vessels ever built by the French docks - Ocean Class Central Battery Ships Ocean, Marengo and Suffren, has sailed out of the port of Marseille.

In the numerous transport ships the bulk of Armeê de Nord Afrique, 14,000 thousand men of infantry and 6,800 men of cavalry, is carried to occupy Tunisia. They are unloaded in Biserta, and moved to occupy the capital Tunis. In the meanwhile 26,000/3400 more men are being prepared for further expansion in the North Africa.

This army, commanded by General De Chilrand, is ordered to avoid bloodshed with Italians who are apparently acting agressively in the region also, but if these refuse to cooperate (=step back) use of brute force is not excluded as an option.
Safehaven2
17-04-2006, 23:14
A letter is delivered to the French government in Paris informing them if they somehow did not know about the Italian operations that just recently occured in Tunisia and asking France to halt its operations. In the letter it also states Italies willingness to negotiate with France over Tunsia and North Africa.

In Tunisia a similar note is delivered to the French General De Chilrand outside of Tunis(OOC: I'm assuming I have control of Tunis? I did get there first but thats up in the air I guess?) asking him to halt for now while the two governments work things out back home. Italian troops are ordered not to foray any deeper into Tunisia than they already are, but in area's that have already been occupied they are to consolidate.

In Italy itself the rest of the navy is ordered to begin mobilizing in case the negotiations break down, or don't even start to begin with.
Madnestan
17-04-2006, 23:28
French government is willing to open negotiations, but it's claim over Algeria and Tunis are permanent. Our troops will take control over these countries in planned schedule.
Italian presence in the country can be discussed, if You're willing to keep troops in there to secure Your citizens and property until the area is completely secured by the French Army.

OOC: You said that a small force was sent, on few ships. This is not enough to occupy a whole country. I thought it ment you took over the key posessions in Tunis or something?
Safehaven2
17-04-2006, 23:46
OOC: The infantry contigent is indeed small, just 6,000 men plus officers and only a few cannon. The fleet is a decent sized one, led by the two modern Roma class battleships. My troops are only in control of Tunis and a small area around it.

IC: General De Chilrand is told that if he attempts to move his troops into the city of Tunis the italian troops in the city will be forced to defend themselves and the city. He is asked to stop outside of the city and let things be worked out at the table by the diplomats back home. In the city of Tunis defenses are prepared while the navy puts out to sea and prepares to make a run for Sicily if fighting breaks out before reinforcements can arrive. From Italy a second fleet is being sent down to reinforce the original fleet.


The French government is asked just to stop for now so that negotiations can take place, perhaps your claims are permaneant but let us talk first before you grab everything.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 00:07
French troops move to besiege the city while most of the cavalry is beeing sent to secure the coastile both East and West from the city. Troops will not open fire upon the Italians as long as these do not provocate them to do so.

Battle fleet moves in front of the city of Tunis, forming a blockade.

Second load of troops is being transported over from Marseille, escorted by Ironclads Couronne, Magenta, Solferino, Surveillante, Valeureuse and Heroine.


Diplomacy:

After three days wait, the French troops will move to the city of Tunis. They will not shoot at the Italians unless fired upon. If more troops are sent in, this will be considered as a hostile act and the troops will move even if those three days haven't passed yet.


OOC: 6,000 men in two ships? Plus cannons? That's helluva lot. But, the distance was indeed very short so I guess it's acceptable... Though it was propably the one of the most uncomfortable troop transportations ever :p Bedtime now, btw.
Ottoman Khaif
18-04-2006, 00:12
OOC: France you owned Algeria since 1830.....bear that in mind..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_rule_in_Algeria
Safehaven2
18-04-2006, 00:20
OOC: It wasn't just two ships, there were more smaller ships, I said the fleet was led by the two Roma battleships, as in they were the main ships, not that they were the whole fleet.

IC: The second fleet is sent as quickly as possible from Taranto. The second fleet led by the four sister battleships Castelfidardo, Regina Maria Pia, San Martino and Ancona and the Conte Verde plus 22 other ships is ordered to meet up with the first fleet between Sicily and Tunisia. The first fleet is ordered out of Tunis harbor immediatly and to Sicily to meet up with the second fleet.

In the city of Tunis the "garrison" is preparing for a siege and a possible direct assualt, gathering supplies and preparing defenses.


Another note is passed to the French making it known that Italy is willing to negotiate French control of Tunisia but that something needs to be given to Italy in return for giving up control of Tunisia.
Ottoman Khaif
18-04-2006, 00:23
Realism Mod Speaking

Remember guys if any battles are to be fought out, please TG the War Mod Clan and Naval mod Manarth your war orders and etc. Just making that clear..now lets get this fight start over Sand..
Middle Snu
18-04-2006, 00:34
The Brazilian troops that were sent to Greece had dallied. Their commander, Alfonso Oldilon, knew that his troops enjoyed the higher pay they received in their journeys.

A small, intense man, Oldilon wanted some action. Newly recruited, he narrowly missed the War of the Triple Alliance. Without a notable achievement on his part, he reasoned, there would be no promotions. Accordingly, Oldilon had volunteered for the mission to Greece, but was disappointed when he arrived in Europe and found that the disturbance was over. But now, with the Franco-Italian differences over Tunisia, he saw his chance to make a name for himself. After a short conference with his fellow officers, the Brazilian ship Helena Boliga set sail for Tunis.
Kilani
18-04-2006, 04:29
Germany throws it's support behind Italy, notin that Tunisia is the rightful property of the Italians and that the French are in no position to take it back. Bismarck promises that Germany will respond militarily should France press it's claim to the point of war.
Of the council of clan
18-04-2006, 04:51
Tagness.
Manarth
18-04-2006, 06:28
OOC: Already tagged it... but taking good note of what's going on.

IC: People in the US that are actually paying attention to European events (i.e. not too many) are glad they live far away from this sort of thing.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 15:49
Another note is passed to the French making it known that Italy is willing to negotiate French control of Tunisia but that something needs to be given to Italy in return for giving up control of Tunisia.

If Italy would, for some reason, want to take over Libya, it would have French support. Or is there something else You would specifically like to have?

Other option is that Italy keeps the city of Tunis and area of 5-10km around it, while the rest remains under French control.
Safehaven2
18-04-2006, 16:18
Response:

Tunis and the Cap Bon penisula which it sits next to are all we need from Tunisia, but in exchange for the rest of Tunisia we ask for either the return of Nice which was taken from Italy just a few years back or a sum of money.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 17:02
Tunis and Cap Bon are yours.

Nice, however, is part of France, and we can not turn the French citizens in there to you. We can however pay you a sum of 2,5 million pounds, and promise our support with Libya should we take it from the Danes.
UK's stand is currently unknown, but should they decide to not step in (which seems likely), we would give you free hands in the country with the exception of Tripoli and area west from there (OOC: Benghasi has equally good port). This can of course be negotiated further.
French troops have been ordered to withdraw from Cap Bon.
Safehaven2
18-04-2006, 18:06
Then Tunisia is agreed, 2.5 million is enough. Libya is a matter that will have to wait, although we do caution you, you warned us out of Algeria becuase it was your back your the same as Libya is ours, let Tunisia be a buffer, a dividing line, western Africa is yours to deal with. But again, Libya is a matter that will have to wait, we are gladdened that this issue was resolved peacefully before any blood could be spilled.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 18:13
You took the crown of Tunisia, the most important city and port of it, so we thought it would be only fair if we had Tripoli in exhange for that. We can pay for it also, if it comes to that. United Kingdom has let us unofficially (OOC: Via MSN) know that they would not support Denmark should we decide to take over Libya.

OOC: About Algeria, it has been a colony of France since 1830 already. Forget what I've been talked about it, I noticed this just recently but I'm sure the French government was aware of it :p
Safehaven2
18-04-2006, 19:22
We have no wish to meddle in your internal afairs and your planning for the future, but we can offer advice and on that note, it has been less than a year since your terrible and extremely costly war with the Germans, shouldn't you tread lightly on the international platform untill things are back in order domestically? How many of your soldiers really want to be sent to some desert just months after being released from captivity in Germany?
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 21:21
OOC: I know the situation, and I know what I'm doing.
Madnestan
20-05-2006, 19:18
La Républicain,16th September 1875

By an unfortunate coincidence yesterdy, the launching day of the newest battleship of our Navy - Central Battery Ship Colbert - also happened to be the day Prime Minister Jules Dufaure of the Conservative Party signed and ratified the much debated new law, The Law of Labour.
As we know, the law that re-introduces the ten hours regular working day and gives employers the right to extend it up to twelve without having to pay any extra compensation has faced stubborn resistance from the opposition. Especially outlawed "underground" parties and groups such as The Second Commune and Anarchosyndicalist Labour Union have been fiercely refractory in this matter, spreading their dangerous propaganda with unforeseen determination and intensity.
It had gone so far that even the usually more conciliatory and rational labour unions have done their best to prevent this law, threathening with the most unpatriotic way to organize illegal strikes and demonstrations. However, the bravery, determination and love towards our great nation that drives our government have managed to overcome all these problems that their short-sighted enemies have caused in futile attempt to stop them from fulfilling their duty - recovering and strengthening the French economy.
Demonstrations and marches were expected to take place, and Police and Gendarmerie had prepared to prevent violence and protect the civil order, but there was something they hadn't waited.

What had remained unknown to both our government and the great audience was the influence those underground groups, the cancer of our society, had in the glorious Navy of France. As the march in Marseille, in which few thousands of hooligans and mislead souls took part approached the War Port
and mounted Gendarmarie squadron moved to stop it - the mentioned launching seremonies of Golbert were just about to start - a group of approximately 130 sailors of Mediterranean Fleet marched out of their Naval Barracks, few blocks away, and ignoring their officer's orders and attempts to re-establish order these men, heavily rmed with sabers, revolvers and rifles moved against the Gendermarie who were already having difficulties with controlling the crowd. Approaching sailors started to shoot at our brave law enforcement troops (Later claiming that the shots were fired in the air to announce their presence. While it is true that at this point no one was injured, that is most likely just because of their bad aiming!), who were forced to return fire.

Several hundreds of men, of Foreign Legion, 12th Infantry Division and police mainly, were ordered to restore peace and disarm the sailors. At this crucial moment, almost the whole 114th Regiment of the 12th Division refused to obey their officers, joined the revolters and opened fire at the police. This recently conscripted unit was for the most part formed of Parisian workers and other unreliable members of lower classes, but it has still horribly soiled the shining shield of honour that the French soldier has carried since the ancient times.
Crews of numerous ships of Mediterranean Fleet also attacked their officers, locking them in their cabins while arming themselves and joining the skirmishes that took place all around the city.

The situation is now under control, criminals and rebels are now for the most part either shot or arrested, but in the city of Marseille martial law will remain in force until the very last of the buildings they took over during the riots have been forced to surrender and every single agitator has been disarmed and taken under custody.

"The Tragedy of Paris shall not be let to repeat itself", said Prime Minister Dufaure in his public speech last night, "and all means, I repeat ALL MEANS NECESSARY will be used to ensure that. Stability and internal security of France are now at stake, threathened by the same menace that caused the bloodbath three years ago. People of France, and especially the workers and peasants, remember your duty! Remember your country and it's honour! Do not let the greed overcome the solidarity and readiness to sacrifice for the country we all so deeply love."

Let us all hope that these words have been heard and listened by those they were meant for - let us all hope that the France will remain united.

Viva La France!


Jean-Jacques Rudiel, Editor-in-chief
Waldenburg 2
28-05-2006, 15:27
To: President Adolphe Thiers of the Republic of France
From: His Majesty King Rama V of Siam

Greetings, as you know Siam is despretely trying to modify it's army to face Burma's slavers who constantly attack our outlying villages. Therefore we offer to kill to birds with one stone, opening up trade with France and modernizing our army. Siam wishes to purchase 60,000 of your Chassepot rifles left over from the Franco Prussian War. As they are no longer your armies main rifle (This may not be the case RL France changed in 1877 but you might not have) we shall take them off your hands for the folllowing price.

1500 Ounces of Gold ($34,500 or 4312 Pounds)
5000 Ounces of Silver ($12,000 or 1500 Pounds)
And the main point of our offer the opening of the Island of Ko Samui to French trade. The island shall not be given but finally Frenchmen shall be able to conduct trade on dry land.

If this deal is unacceptable please contact us and we shall try to work out another.

Signed:
His Majesty King Rama V of Siam