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Anti-Terrorist Pamphlet Released by Government (MT Open)

Chitzeland
11-04-2006, 05:28
Continuing his effort to destroy worldwide terrorism, the government of Chitzeland today has released official “Liberty Pamphlets”, which are designed to inform citizens and leaders alike on how they can help the global war on terror. President Copeland has said today that this guide is “not definitive, but close to it.” He also mentioned how he wants a copy of this pamphlet in “every household.” President Copeland hopes to not only strengthen anti-terrorist sentiment in his own country, but in others as well. As such, he has sent copies of the pamphlet to the leaders of every country he could think of requesting that it be copied and distributed to the public.

“Releasing this groundbreaking pamphlet will make us an even larger target for terrorism," President Copeland said in a press conference today, "as we have, through intense investigation and research, laid bare their fundamental terrorist secrets and plots. While this may incite the terrorists to fight harder against Chitzeland, the damage they take from the rest of the world because of the knowledge spread by these pamphlets will be enormous. Everyone shall know of their cowardice and evil.”

Below is an important excerpt from the pamphlet:

Terrorists can often be difficult to distinguish from normal people. Fortunately, there are some telltale signs of a terrorist that are easily noticeable to those who know to look for them:

Terrorists try to make themselves look more human and spiritual by following a constructed faith called Islam. Islam is made of bits of stolen Christianity that have been perverted to suit the terrorists’ evil agendas. Followers of Islam, who call themselves Muslims, are terrorists.
Terrorists often speak Arabic, which was formed originally as a secret code language for their operations. It is made to look like gibberish chickenscratch when written, so most people would think nothing of it. Someone who possesses knowledge of Arabic is almost always a terrorist.
Terrorists often wear towels (or similar items) on their heads. Why they do this is unknown, but then again, the mind of a terrorist is too evil to understand. Anyone wearing something such as a towel on their head without a practical reason for it should be turned in to authorities.
Terrorists often hide out in lairs called mosques. Mosques are easily identifiable by their oddly phallic shaped towers and domes. These buildings should be destroyed and their residents apprehended.
Terrorist leaders are easily identifiable because most have the title “Muhammad” somewhere in their name. Another indicator in the name of a terrorist is having the prefix “al-” in front of part of their name.
The Lone Alliance
11-04-2006, 05:44
The Lone Alliance is insulted by this supression of Relgious freedom under the Guise of 'Anti-Terror', We will go on Record to say that either President Copeland is ignorant, or that he is a Anti-Freedom Fanatic.
Cravan
11-04-2006, 05:44
We have read through the excerpt from your pamphlet, and we must say blunty... It's pretty damn inaccurate and racist. There is an intolerable amount of religious and racial profiling present in this pamphlet. Terrorists can and will originate from any faith, ethnic group, nationality, and organization. Terrorism is not confined to the perfectly legitimate religion of Islam.
Pythogria
11-04-2006, 15:04
Pythogria is UTTERLY against terrorism (having had Gria City nuked by them) but this pamphlet? this is incredibly innaccurate, rascist, and, I must say, stupid. Any of these coming into Pythogria will be recycled into more useful materials and things.
Radiant Bastion
11-04-2006, 15:35
Official Government Statement
We of the nation of Radiant Bastion are utterly disgusted by such a Pamphlet. It is insulting to the worshipers of Islam and an insult to all Arabic people. This government is not fighting terrorism but he is using it as a curtain to hide his true movements, we of Radiant Bastion suspect.

There was a man in our history of Earth who once used a race and labeled them inferior and to a degree terrorists his name is now infamous, Adolf Hitler. We dare and shall compare Adolf Hitler to the leader of this so called "Terrorist Fighting Nation."

However maybe you're not interested in the extermination of the Islamic religion, maybe you are just ignorant? An ignorant man or women should not be leading a country for he shall only spread his or her ignorance. The people of Chitzeland I call upon you to recognize the actions of your leader, do what you must to show the world you are not the racist scum that is your government.

Radiant Bastion however does somewhat hope that this idea of terrorists is nothing but pure ignorance for Islam and Arabic people for the rise of another Genocidal maniac would not be good for the world... nor the nation. Keep that in mind Mr. President, keep that in mind.

Signed,
President Roxas of Radiant Bastion
Usea-Jason
11-04-2006, 16:00
ooc-At least they arent going after commies
Snake Eaters
11-04-2006, 16:29
OOC: Normally, I'm an FT nation. But, I can have my MT moments...

IC:
Official statement from the Office of the Lord President.
Re: Chitzeland pamphlet.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the world,

This pamphlet, the extract of which has been widely circulated, is symbolic of the ignorance and callousness of the government of Chitzeland, and President Copeland in particular. Whilst we are firmly opposed to terrorism in all it's forms, this sterotypical view lacks any basis in fact, and anything that it claims to be fact is instead coincidence.

Of particular note is the painting of an entire religion and it's followers with the brand of terrorist. This view cannot be allowed to prevail. Terrorists come in many forms. Whilst, unfortunatley, there are Muslim terrorists in the world, there are various other organisations which could come under the term 'terrorist', and yet are not Muslim. Symbolic of these is the IRA and ETA, neither of whom is born out of Muslim backgrounds.

I call upon all civilised nations to ignore this plainly racist and ignorant pamphlet. The suppression of religion by attacking those who are quite clearly innocent of any crime and their places of worship must not be allowed to continue. President Copeland claims that;

'While this may incite the terrorists to fight harder against Chitzeland, the damage they take from the rest of the world because of the knowledge spread by these pamphlets will be enormous'

He is mistaken. I urge him to retract his statement forthwith, issue a formal apology, or to prepare himself for the inevitable conflict of words, and possible military action, that will ensue as a direct result. His actions now could decide the fate of his nation in the future.

Jacius Barbarossa
Lord-President of the Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters.
The Black Hand of Nod
11-04-2006, 16:35
This Pamphlet is complete and utter lies, not all terrorist organizations are muslim. We should know, we're a terrorist Organization. -Unknown.
Zanski
11-04-2006, 17:03
The ZATA (Zanx Armed Terrorist Army) Are deeply disgusted by this phamphlet and are currently planning large scale riots in your nation at this moment. The Zanski government have nothing to do with this, as ZATA are an unofficial army and although Zanski is disgusted at this inciting of racial hatred, we know war is a last resort.
Pythogria
11-04-2006, 22:50
The ZATA (Zanx Armed Terrorist Army) Are deeply disgusted by this phamphlet and are currently planning large scale riots in your nation at this moment. The Zanski government have nothing to do with this, as ZATA are an unofficial army and although Zanski is disgusted at this inciting of racial hatred, we know war is a last resort.

The government of Chitzeland may well be a group of witless morons, but we will not allow you to attack and kill civillians. Stand down. Now.
Minnechusettsfornia
11-04-2006, 22:52
Minnechusettsfornia is home to over 60 million muslims. None of them have ever bombed a building. None of them even campaign to remove the rights of other religious groups. We are not terrorists. We are loving parents and children, we are happy, ordinary, productive citizens. We are not criminals or "terrorists" for practicing our proud, ancient faith. The vast majority of us hold no ill-will towards other peoples of faith, nor do most of the people of this enlightened nation hold it towards us. Terrorism will persist as long as trivial ethnic hatreds like this persist.
-Letter from Kareem al-Hassan, President, Muslim Alliance of Minnechusettsfornia
Delegate, Interfaith Alliance of Minnechusettsfornia

Official Government StatementMinnechusettsfornia is strongly opposed to terrorism. However, we have found this pamphlet to be mindless racist propaganda, and the government will have no part in distributing hate-filled rhetoric. Our government and nation make a point of promoting tolerance, and we are all the better for it. We politely suggest that, if Chitzeland seeks the reason terrorism exists in this world, they look to themselves.
-President Theodore Reynolds
-Senate leader Miles Alexander

Travel to Chitzeland has been discontinued for Minnechusettsfornian citizens, as their safety cannot be guaranteed.
Mondoth
11-04-2006, 23:00
Taken from a Mondoth News Broadcast
Mondothians are still rioting in the streets after a recent pamphlet on fighting terrorism relased by the government of Chitzeland called for, among other things, the destruction of Mosques. The pamphlet contained much anti-muslim propaganda. Responding to the outrage, the Prime Ministry recently ordered a full Embargo on all trade to and from Chitzeland and urged other nations to do the same in a public statement earlier today.
Liberated New Ireland
11-04-2006, 23:05
The PRLNI will boycott all goods produced by Chitzeland as long as they continue this racist sentiment.
Pythogria
11-04-2006, 23:06
Pythogria is agreeing with Mondoth.

The Following Is Decreed:

1. NO trade shall exist between Chitzeland and Pythogria;

2. Pythogrian citizens will be discouraged from travelling to Chitzeland, as we cannot guarantee their safety;

3. Pythogria opens it's borders to Chitzelandian citizens wishing to get away from the obviously psychotic government.
Cravan
11-04-2006, 23:08
Cravan will wait until the government of Chitzeland makes a statement. Then we'll make sanctions.
Radiant Bastion
11-04-2006, 23:11
Official Government Statement
So gears begin to turn for war. This process has been repeated over and over again most of the time resulting in a war. Are you all prepared to go to war for this? For your soldiers to die? For your people to die? I hope not. You are doing nothing but make the chance of people supporting their government go higher.

For you see, it isn't the people of Chizland, but its government. You are punishing the entire nation for something only a selected few did. Diplomatic pressure would've been better for such a situation but it appears that option was thrown right out the door. We ask that all nations repeal their embargos and pursue a diplomatic course.

Signed,
President Roxas of Radiant Bastion.
Pimpingdom
11-04-2006, 23:16
Us rulers of Pimpingdom found this pamphlet very helpful in eliminating Musl... err... Terrorists from our society. Thank you very much Chitzeland. May we fight terror together.
Snake Eaters
11-04-2006, 23:21
Official Government Statement
So gears begin to turn for war. This process has been repeated over and over again most of the time resulting in a war. Are you all prepared to go to war for this? For your soldiers to die? For your people to die? I hope not. You are doing nothing but make the chance of people supporting their government go higher.

For you see, it isn't the people of Chizland, but its government. You are punishing the entire nation for something only a selected few did. Diplomatic pressure would've been better for such a situation but it appears that option was thrown right out the door. We ask that all nations repeal their embargos and pursue a diplomatic course.

Signed,
President Roxas of Radiant Bastion.

Not one nation has declared open war as of yet. Hopefully, this will not be a step that nations will have to take. I fail to see how you can suggest that war is a natural result of embargos or requests for formal apologies.

Your claim that diplomatic pressure has been cast aside appears to be based upon limited evidence. Words are just that: words. In the grander scheme of things, this situation should be resolved peacefully. Snake Eaters itself has called for no embargos, but it has called for action. However, I will quote from my last letter:

I urge him to retract his statement forthwith, issue a formal apology, or to prepare himself for the inevitable conflict of words, and possible military action

This statement clearly shows that military action would be the final resort, and by no means be taken without extensive consulation and attempted diplomatic solutions. I would prefer to avoid any conflict on this issue.

You also appear contradictary. In your first paragraph, you say that the chances of people supporting this measure increase as the other nations opposed to these measures show their distaste. And yet, in your second paragraph, you quite plainly state that this is the fate of the few, not the many. ((I've boldened these, so you know which passages I'm talking about. Makes it easier for all involved)).

Jacius Barbarossa.
Lord-President of the Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters
Pythogria
11-04-2006, 23:22
Official Government Statement
So gears begin to turn for war. This process has been repeated over and over again most of the time resulting in a war. Are you all prepared to go to war for this? For your soldiers to die? For your people to die? I hope not. You are doing nothing but make the chance of people supporting their government go higher.

For you see, it isn't the people of Chizland, but its government. You are punishing the entire nation for something only a selected few did. Diplomatic pressure would've been better for such a situation but it appears that option was thrown right out the door. We ask that all nations repeal their embargos and pursue a diplomatic course.

Signed,
President Roxas of Radiant Bastion.

Pythogria will not declare war unless truly nesscessary, but in reality, his government is psychotic.

---Secret---

And besides, I'm sure the people wil lrealize that the government is psychotic soon.
Pythogria
11-04-2006, 23:24
Us rulers of Pimpingdom found this pamphlet very helpful in eliminating Musl... err... Terrorists from our society. Thank you very much Chitzeland. May we fight terror together.

---Secret---

"Sir, are you feeling OK?"

"No. I've just lost all faith in humanity. I'm going for a game of golf. Bye."
Razat
11-04-2006, 23:26
The Rogue Nation of Razat agrees with the Chizland document, and it proves that the Razatian Freedom Fighters are not terrorist, since we meet none of those criteria. Though we do blow up buildings full of non-combatants.
Gelfland
11-04-2006, 23:27
{transmitter ID:###ERROR####
To: citzeland government.

We the house of floyd agree that the muslim menace must be dealt with, May hellfire and pestilence rain down upon all who would oppose us.
Kedalfax
12-04-2006, 00:11
We at the Kedalfax Foreign Affairs Office would like to congratulate you, Chitzeland. You have officially become the first nation to fall under the "Orange" status level. If you would like, you may see what this means Here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Foreign_Affairs_of_Kedalfax)
We would also like to thank you for giving us a great example of what our country should not mimic.

Thank you, and goodbye.
Pauul J. James-Martin, Kedalfax Secretary of the Exterior.
The Lone Alliance
12-04-2006, 00:30
The Lone Alliance Declares that unless an offical retraction of this Racist Propraganda is made, we will be joining in the Embargo.
-Lone Alliance Ministry of dealing with Moronic nations.
Liberated New Ireland
12-04-2006, 00:33
--Secret--
The PRLNI is sending a black ops cell to Chitzeland to sow dissent amongst its clearly oppressed people.
Chitzeland
12-04-2006, 02:07
President Copeland was annoyed by the reactions he received from those he had hoped would help in destroying this terrorist menace. Evidently, his press conference did not address this issue well enough. He needed to show the people his infallible reasoning. He called up another press conference.

"Honorable nations who have criticized Chitzeland and our pamphlet, I appreciate your helpful insight and constructive criticism regarding the pamphlets that we have been circulating. Most reactions have been those of respectful disapproval, and I will respect and embrace that. After all, I did not approve of these pamphlets with the expectation that it would meet 100% approval. The advice that you have sent me has been enlightening and helpful. I must say that hearing from you and contemplating your messages has shaken the foundations of my own personal beliefs, and I have emerged a better person. Having said that, I do have some points that I wish to make.

"Firstly, this issue that the pamphlet discusses, namely terrorism, has been a topic of much debate in modern times. From the responses that I have gotten, I believe that I can safely say that the international community generally frowns on terrorism. Indeed, it is a way of protest that strikes an opponent from behind, in a way that is cowardly and injust.

"I understand that not everyone wants to take as radical a stance on terrorism as I. It is a difficult thing to be able to send your boys into battle against such an opponent.

"What I do not understand, however, is the somewhat misinformed replies that I have been receiving. I say to you, we must know how to fight the enemy of terrorism before we can send our troops in! Who knows more than I, Leonard Copeland, on this issue?

"I challenge you to find a more qualified man. I was elected president of the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland with a commanding mandate. My family has dealt with terrorists from neighboring Yehtra for generations as military leaders. During my first term as president, I have made sweeping reforms that have stopped terrorism in its tracks in Chitzeland. The people of Chitzeland know what I am talking about; they are well informed on the intricacies of our terrorist enemies. Threat from terror from our Muslim neighbors is their day to day existence. So, not only has my family fought terrorism, I myself have fought terrorism and the people of Chitzeland, who elected me, know terrorism.

"My credentials aside, another common allegation cruelly pressed against me is that of racism. Ladies and gentlemen, I can not think of a more horrible accusation. The denial of humanity to others because of their race! I must say that I was hurt by this. How could I, the head of one of the most tolerant nations on the planet, be racist? I am the leader of one of the world's foremost libertarian parties. Libertarian! Liberty! Granting equal rights to all! Come now, I am no racist. Anything in the great Liberty Pamphlet that seems to be targetting a specific race of people, other than terrorists of course, is merely coincidence.

"What, with all the ignorant replies I have been disgraced with, it is ironic that you claim ignorance to be one of my charges. I have already shown you how I know terrorism, but some claim that Muslims do not show links to terrorism. This is wrong, and you know it! Islam as a religion was created by unscrupulous and violent leaders from Arabian tribal societies. These devil worshippers used trickery to drum up support for their new religion and the same terror tactics that they employ today to spread their influence. Terror and Islam: their history is fused together in violence and bloodshed.

"Many organizations that unite under the green banner of Terror may not proclaim themselves as Muslim, but they follow the Muslim ideals of death and destruction. Elimination of Muslim influence will pop their balloon.

"We all know what needs to be done about terrorism. Only a global conflict can extinguish it. The terrorists invade the hearths of each and every one of us. They invade every nation, and in our new age of information, their influence invades in every home. This is why I alone cannot cure the world of this cancer. Humanity must unite globally to battle inhumanity.

"Terrorism seeks to defile each human mind, maim each human heart, and shatter human dignity itself. Terrorism exemplifies evil.

"I am appalled at how misguided and utterly corrupted the world is today. Entire nations are simply asking to be eaten alive! This problem simply cannot be ignored. Indeed, to call it a problem is an insult to problems. Terrorism is a monstrosity, an inhumanity, and a demonic machine that seeks to destroy our society and collective civilization.

“Islam must be decisively fought, my friends. Those who voicing dissent will burn in the hellfire spread by terrorism, as they deserve. We must be 100% in our will and absolute in our power. Anything less will lead us into the pits of death.

“People sharing in this awesome and yet fragile continuity called life, it is your choice. Do you side along death, or are you among those who believe that the power of humanity can yet triumph?

“The signs of humanity’s demise to terror and the devil have been evident for a long time now. More and more people have been dying due to evil in modern times. Genocides and killings of the innocent have become commonplace. It is inevitable; unless we stop right now and decide that we will not for one second continue to allow evil to devour our brothers in humanity, evil will swallow us all.

“I will ask one last time: will you help the terrorist demons dehumanize us and drag us into the depths of the maw of hell, or will you join me in resuscitating the human race and continuing, in God’s favor, into a glorious future?

"For the sake of us all, I hope you make the right choice."




(OOC: The above statement addresses most messages directed to President Copeland, but some individual replies will come shortly.)
Chitzeland
12-04-2006, 02:38
Most of the messages President Copeland received that voiced disapproval for his pamphlets just left a sour taste in his mouth. When he read the message from Minnechusettsfornia, his blood pressure spiked particularly high.

Official Transmission
To: President Theodore Reynolds and Senate Leader Miles Alexander
From: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am horrified by a statement you made in your message directed towards me.

“We politely suggest that, if Chitzeland seeks the reason terrorism exists in this world, they look to themselves.”

For one thing, that message is not even the least bit polite. Terrorism because of Chitzeland? Are you suggesting that we support terrorism? No, it is lunatics like yourself who support terrorism. I will not go so far to outwardly admit that you are sending material support to terrorists, but by making statements such as this to those like me who are bravely crusading against terror, it is almost like you yourself are a terrorist.




Official Transmission
To: Leadership in Mondoth
From: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am confused by your actions. If your citizens are so bravely fighting terror, then why are you wanting to punish us? We wish to help you in your efforts.




Official Transmission
To: President Roxas of Radiant Bastion
From: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

You seem to misunderstand several key concepts in fighting terrorism. For one thing, diplomacy is useless. We have been trying to diplomatically sort out disagreements with Muslims for over a thousand years, but it has always failed miserably. Terrorists are too inhuman to understand peaceful means of communicating. Believe me, I too believe in diplomacy as the best solution. Unfortunately, the time for diplomacy has long passed.

The second thing I wish to address is your willingness to go to war with me over this. Such hasty action makes me think that you yourself are a terrorist. If I am correct in this assumption, how does it feel that someone has so clearly laid bare all of your devilish plots? Look forward to embargos on your nation by Chitzeland, courtesy of a new law proposal I made to congress today.

I hope that we will not have to come to war, but if we must, know that I am prepared to kill every man, woman, and child that gathers under the banner of terror. If I am the only man left on the planet after this bloodbath, then so be it.







It is a widely known fact that the beliefs of President Copeland on issues such as terrorism are also, generally speaking, the beliefs of the citizens of Chitzeland. Thousands of years of conflict with Muslims has engendered a hatred of Islam in them that will take time to heal. Those wishing to start anti-government riots will face a violently opposed populace.
Radiant Bastion
12-04-2006, 03:56
Official Government Statement
Our first statement is for people to learn how to read their letters better. Surely we did not once mention that we would use military action against the nation of Chizland, when we are in fact trying to prevent such a thing. Maybe the President has Radiant Bastion mixed up with someone else? Also Snake Easters in which part of my letter did I say war was declared? I said the process had begun. In my personal study of international history I have seen this process; designed to prevent war often leads to not only increased tensions but war itself.

However I see now that my views of the President of Chizland simply being ignorant have proven false and the man is a racist in denial. The man is a terrorist himself but one who commands a collected military rather then scattered cells. The movement has been proposed in the Congress of Radiant Bastion to join the Embargo against Chizland we hope to receive an answer within the hour from congress on their decision.

We too shall now state that a formal apology be said to the Islamic people for the harsh insults to their religion. Failure to comply will result in a heavier classed embargo should Congress deem necessary.

Signed,
President Roxas of Radiant Bastion

[Semi-Secret IC]
<Message Transmitting>
<Message Received>
<Message Decoding>
<Message Opened>
Addressed to all members of the embargo against Chizland,
You have received this letter because you participating in the embargo against the nation of Chizland. This message is secret and should not be shared with anyone other then high government officials. We ask for a conference be called on what to do should the situation escalate. We will host the conference ourselves. Please send quick regards.

RB High Command
<Message End>
Zexaland
12-04-2006, 05:00
Dateline 0930 hours, 2 days after the release of the pamphlet.

ZNNN (Zexaland NoN-stop News Network) current international affairs report extract, Channel 18, Marcus Larsonian reporting.

"....to a huge degree. President O'Soar has denonced the pamphlet as "sentalionist tripe" and a "mish-mash of anti-Muslimism, generalisations and outright lies" this morning at a press conference. She was confident that such a pamphlet would actually lessen the ability and strenght of anti-terror measures, as well as make a mockery of the country's leaders' compentence and intelligence, if at all any. Further experts have also claimed that this was just a recent wave sweeping the region of unfair and scape-goating anti-Muslimism..."

Offical Statement by President of Zexland, Risa O'Soar, issued at 1352 hours of day 1 after the release of the pamphlet:

"We, the people of the Democratic Republic of Zexaland, sincerely hope you are playing some sort of joke. If not, well, God or Allah help you."
Liberated New Ireland
12-04-2006, 05:11
Dateline 0930 hours, 2 days after the release of the pamphlet.

ZNNN (Zexaland NoN-stop News Network) current international affairs report extract, Channel 18, Marcus Larsonian reporting.

"....to a huge degree. President O'Soar has denonced the pamphlet as "sentalionist tripe" and a "mish-mash of anti-Muslimism, generalisations and outright lies" this morning at a press conference. She was confident that such a pamphlet would actually lessen the ability and strenght of anti-terror measures, as well as make a mockery of the country's leaders' compentence and intelligence, if at all any. Further experts have also claimed that this was just a recent wave sweeping the region of unfair and scape-goating anti-Muslimism..."

Offical Statement by President of Zexland, Risa O'Soar, issued at 1352 hours of day 1 after the release of the pamphlet:

"We, the people of the Democratic Republic of Zexaland, sincerely hope you are playing some sort of joke. If not, well, God or Allah help you."
OOC: Allah is Islamic for God.
Zexaland
12-04-2006, 05:29
OOC: Allah is Islamic for God.
OOC: Yeah, I know. That's what makes it funny.
Mondoth
12-04-2006, 05:46
Message To President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland
From: Prime Minister James Stanwin
Via: DFW-91004

You insult our people Mr. President, for more than eighty years Mondoth has been fighting insurgencies and seperatist movements in our own nation as well as those of our nations, only recently, we were fored to take military action against the Naveiran seperatists, one of the most ruthless terrorist organizations we have yet faced. And then you believe that somehow, in your short and mostly peaceful history you can come to us and preach hate against our Muslim brothers? Who do you think was behind the Naveiran Seperatists? Who were most of its soldiers and terrorists? Not Muslims, though some fanatics and extremists originally fomred the movement, no, When our soldiers ran into the caves of Naveira to protect the way of life we gave to the naveiran people all those years ago, it was not against cries of 'Allahu Ackbar' that our soldiers fought, it was against those who cried 'God bless us' and 'Christ preserve us'. Our soldiers were forced to put down their own Christian brothers we fought.
No religion preaches hate, Muslims are not inherently terrorists any more than Christians are, or Jews, or Zen Buddhists. Perpetuation of this hate will not b regarded lightly by the Mondothian People, though I would be the last to condone war over this point the people will ultimately decide.

OOC: for reference, Mondoth is about half Muslim, although most are muslim in the same way most americans are christians.
Snake Eaters
12-04-2006, 09:39
~snip~

Barbarossa read the statement, and sighed,"What doesn't this man understand... oh well, looks like I have to give a response of some sort."

*Half an hour later*
The plinth was draped with the flag of Snake Eaters, and stood in front of the Adminstrium, the main government building. Atop the plinth, Jacius Barbarossa looked out across the journalists in front of him,"Thank you all for coming here today."

He paused, sipped at his water, cleared his throat, and started to talk;

"President Copeland, I am Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa. You have heard from me, but you and I have never met in person. Your recent press statement has good points and bad points. I would like to take a moment of your time to show these."

"You are correct in that terrorism is something that affects us all in some way or another, of that there is no denying. It is most certainely true that terrorism touches us all in ways that we never thought possible, and that it should be stamped out. Here in Snake Eaters, we are firmly opposed to terrorism in all it's forms."

"But, I emplore you, do not take upon your course of action lightly. By stating that all terrorists are inherrently muslims will only serve to create more enemies for yourself. By branding an entire faith, you risk having countless billions turn against for no other reason than that you were unable to tell the difference between an innocent Muslim and one who is commited to the destruction of society. You claim to be a liberal, but this is not liberalism! This is racism and possible genocide on a scale unmatched by even the Nazi's during the darkest days of World War Two. Although, judging from what I have seen so far, I find it unlikely you believe in the Holocaust as well."

"Your views on Islam as a religion of death and bloodshed are ill-founded.. It is a great shame that many terrorists of the twenty-first century are Muslims, a stain on this ancient religion, but it has not always been the case. The 1960's heralded the Troubles in Northern Ireland, the IRA. They are Christian. You say that Islam is a troubled offshoot of Christianity, when in reality, they are as old as each other."

"The people of your nation are not well-informed. They are brainwashed! Brainwashed into believing that an entire race of people want them dead and their society to burn is inhuman enough in itself. I am a firm believer in free speech, Mr. Copeland, and as such I cannot step in to prevent you saying these things. But, I am asking you to think carefully over your next move. You claim that we, the world leaders who do not support you, are ignorant. I find this, as do you, offensive. Have you considered the fact that no-one truly knows the truth, and therefore each one of is, in our own way, ignorant? For someone who claims to be a liberal, who by defination believes in freedoms for all, to include freedom of worship, I find your views remarkably skewed from the political ideals you claim to follow."

"However, military force is not the answer to this problem. A diplomatic solution must be sought before the entire world is engulfed in conflict. I hope to hear from you soon on this matter, Mr. President. Thank you."
Macaronia and Raviolia
12-04-2006, 13:28
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE IMPERIAL PALACE

The Emperor of Macaronia and Raviolia would like to express thanks to the Government of The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland for publishing this document.

It has been of great personal assistance to Him and His Family during these times of crises - namely, the current union action taking place in the paper mills of the country, resulting in a shortage of neccessary toilet paper.

He would, however, like to state his deep disatisifaction with the highly racist, bigoted and ignorant content of the aforementioned "Anti-Terrorist" leaflet. Whilst the citizens of the Empire of Macaronia and Raviolia and it's Puppet States the Grand Duchies of Malokov and Ralakov do not condone religion and see it for the troublesome distraction from their Emperor that it is, they do not believe in discriminating against those persons unfortunate enough not to be citizens of this Great Empire who do practise religion of any form.

- The Rt Hon. Edward Sinclair
- Personal Secretary to His Imperial Majesty
Zanski
12-04-2006, 13:40
I, merech Zanski, despite being disturbed and nauseated by this phamphlet of so-caled Anti Terrorism, would like to arrange a peace meeting with all nations involved in this rage.
I would be pleased if Chitzeland could attend this meeting.
Minnechusettsfornia
12-04-2006, 14:15
Most of the messages President Copeland received that voiced disapproval for his pamphlets just left a sour taste in his mouth. When he read the message from Minnechusettsfornia, his blood pressure spiked particularly high.

Official Transmission
To: President Theodore Reynolds and Senate Leader Miles Alexander
From: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am horrified by a statement you made in your message directed towards me.

“We politely suggest that, if Chitzeland seeks the reason terrorism exists in this world, they look to themselves.”

For one thing, that message is not even the least bit polite. Terrorism because of Chitzeland? Are you suggesting that we support terrorism? No, it is lunatics like yourself who support terrorism. I will not go so far to outwardly admit that you are sending material support to terrorists, but by making statements such as this to those like me who are bravely crusading against terror, it is almost like you yourself are a terrorist.


Official response:
Your government has openly condoned the systematic opression and extermination of an entire group. Terrorism through overwhelming force is still terrorism. As long as you continue your quest to spred your petty ethnic hatreds, you are giving rise to terrorists just as bad, if not worse, then the muslim extremists you attempt to brand a sizeable part of the world's population with association to. We have never supported terrorism nor intolerance, and have no intention of doing so now.
Al Khals
12-04-2006, 14:52
Commentators in the Arab Republic of Al Khals have been upset both by the pamphlet, which has caused a slight up-surge in religiously-motivated activity in the secular republic, and by the common reaction in defence of faith rather than anything else.

Though many citizens have reacted with righteous anger over the offences against their faith, the hostile position of the Al Khali state has been taken in light of the implication that the entire Arab race is fit for destruction! While the majority of Al Khal's five billion citizens profess fellowship of the Muslim faith, the government of President Omar Qottar remains committed to secularism. Meanwhile, hundreds of millions of Christian, atheist, and other individuals have taken offence at the indication of their complicity in terrorism simple for having the word, "the" appear as part of their full names.



http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/al_khals.jpg

In official business, the Al Khali government has requested that Chitzeland make some attempt in future to avoid lighting religious fires in the world by launching attacks in such a way as to create billions of enemies where previously there were none. Al Khals struggles to maintain its secular status, and Chitzeland's actions have caused moderates and the normally disinterested to take an increased interest in their people's traditional faith, which again threatens to interrupt the running of a secular authority. The state has now been forced to take severe and undesirable action against Chitzeland in order to prove itself a defender of its people, lest it be replaced by an Islamist body.

Arabic is of course the Republic's official language, and it is in this chickenscratch that Qottar signed a bill marking the flag of Chitzeland as a pirate ensign, ordering the forces of republican security to treat its bearers accordingly, and a travel-ban has been enacted in reference to the offending state.



One otherwise disinterested citizen did ask just exactly how it came to pass that, in this day and age, Chitzeland had been in conflict with Muslims for thousands of years.
Minnechusettsfornia
12-04-2006, 17:54
((OOC: I'm gone for the next three days, just so ya know.))
Gelfland
12-04-2006, 21:00
A number of aircraft are detected entering chitzeland airspace, attepts to contact them by radio are unsucessfull..

OFFICAL COMMUNICATION FROM GELFLAND INTELLEGENCE TO CHITZELAND.

It has come to our attention that the radical group known as "The House of Floyd." has recently contacted your nation, our sources indicate that they may be in posession of Weapons of Mass destruction. and that they are a rather unstable organisation, increasing the likelyhood of such devices being used.
Chitzeland
13-04-2006, 01:35
President Copeland entered his office confused. How can these people deny my logic? he thought. He would need to try to explain it to them one by one through transmissions. After he felt sufficiently sober, he began to deal with the messages that he had received.


Official Transmission
To: Prime Minister James Stanwin, Mondoth
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

Greetings, sir. You seem to have trouble understanding what I my platform is. For one thing you say that you have been fighting terrorism for longer than I have. I am only seventy-nine years old, so I can not claim to have fought terrorism for eighty years, as your nation has. But the people of Chitzeland have been fighting Islam for over twelve hundred years. They have been our constant enemy. As you can see, we know how to combat terrorism because we have been doing it for nearly as long as people have been living in Chitzeland.

I also do not say that all terrorists are Muslim. I am simply saying that all Muslims are terrorists. Islam was created by a band of terrorists who wanted to convert others to their cause. Islam is merely a tool used by terrorists. You may have experienced Christian terrorists, and I am sorry for that, but they are not the majority. They are an almost insignificant minority. All terrorists, whether they brand themselves Muslim or not, follow the same terrorist ideology. If we are to take out terrorism, we must take out it's most influencial group.

I hope that this clears some things up. I hope our two nations can become great allies in the global war on terror.




Official Transmission
To: Edward Sinclair, The Empire of Macaronia and Raviolia
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

We do not wish harm to anyone because of their religious beliefs. Freedom of religion is held sacred here in Chitzeland. Islam, however, is not a religion. It is a force used by terrorists to brainwash others into doing the terrorist leader's bidding. I hope that this is satisfactory. If you have any further concerns, then please voice them to me.




Official Transmission
To: Merech Zanski, Zanski
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am glad that you are willing to arrange an event for discussion of this matter with other nations. If it is held, then I will either come myself or send an informed representative. You sound like you have some misconceptions about the content of the Liberty Pamphlet, but it can wait.




Official Transmission
To: President Theodore Reynolds and Senate Leader Miles Alexander, Minnechusettsfornia
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

If you consider terrorists to be an ethnicity, then yes, I condone a systematic extermination of them. But they are not an ethnicity. I am merely condoning the punishment of dangerous criminals. I hope you are not trying to say that it is every man's right to be a criminal and to disobey the law.




Official Transmission
To: President Omar Qottar, The Arab Republic of Al Khals
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am not trying to destroy Arabs or any other ethnic group, and I am not sure how your people have come to such a horrible conclusion. I am also not attempting to light any religious fires.

As to the billions of enemies that you say that I might create, I have a secret for you! All those billions of enemies, the terrorists, are already our enemies! Your actions against Chitzeland are unjust and completely unfounded.

Instead of taking action against me, you should be asking me for help. You said that you have 5 billion Muslims in your nation. That sounds like a serious problem! I do not see how you manage to survive amongst so many terrorists, let alone be as orderly as you are.




Official Transmission
To: Gelfland Intelligence
From: Chitzeland Intelligence

You are correct. We did receive a cryptic message from someone claiming allegiance to a "House of Floyd". However, we were not able to determine who it was. If there is anything about possible WMD use, we would like to hear more about it.




Finally, President Copeland decided that he would deal with Lord-President Barbarossa's press release by having another press conference. Once everyone had arrived at the conference, President Copeland walked out into the giant room and stepped up to a podium with a Chitzeland Flag hung behind. The flag was so enormous that, even though it was hung a good twenty meters behind the President, it still took up the entire scene on the television screens.

"Good evening, gentlemen. As you are aware, I recently approved the circulation of the Liberty Pamphlets for distribution. Despite the overwhelming logic encompassed within it, some still have some points of confusion regarding its content. I am specifically addressing in this press release the statements made by Snake Eaters Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa.

"I am glad that the world is generally in opposition to terrorism. Simply having a negative disposition towards it is not enough however. Being against such evil is merely the default feeling of the humand mind. We must be firmly against terrorism and constantly fighting it.

"President Barbarossa stated that my actions have earned me billions of enemies in the Muslim 'faith'. I, who am not one to just stand around and wait for the terrorists to jump on us, have already turned against them before they could turn against me. There is no such thing as an innocent Muslim. There are only innocent people who have been corrupted by Islam into believing terrorist ideologies. President Barbarossa also made some outrageous claims about my actions being racist and promoting genocide, as well as some comparisons between me and the Nazis during the Holocaust. I can not believe that our once formal debate has stooped to such a level as comparing others to Hitler! I do believe in the Holocaust. It is one of the worst events in human history, and has shown what real racism and genocide looks like.

"I am not racist nor genocidal. To even contemplate the matter is just wrong. Is punishing a murderer genocide? I think not. But you are claiming that punishing terrorists is genocide! Your definitions are too general. Terrorists may be a group of people, but they are not an innocent group of people.

"In your almost humorously ignorant argument against me, President Barbarossa, you draw upon evidence from the troubles in Northern Ireland in order to combat the Liberty Pamphlet. As I have mentioned on many times, not all terrorists are Muslim. Islam is just one of the tools of the terrorist, albeit one of the most common tools. You also claim that Christianity and Islam are 'as old as each other', when in reality, Islam is over six hundred years older than Christianity. Islam was started by terrorists who wanted to convert others to their evil ways. They accomplished this by stealing bits of Christianity and changing it so that it supported their evil views. You must check your facts.

"Another unfounded claim of yours is that our people are brainwashed! Absolutely not! My people, who have been fighting terrorists for over twelve hundred years, know about terrorism through their own experiences. Our government only bases its policies off of what has proven to be true. As far as your philosophical discourse over truth is concerned, I have seen the truth behind terrorism, and it is how I preach that it is.

"I hope this clears up all of the unfounded allegations against me. Now that we are done bickering, can we work together to save humanity?"
Mondoth
13-04-2006, 04:01
Message To President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland
From: Prime Minister James Stanwin
Via: DFW-91004


I see, so you were fighting Islamic Terrorism about the time the Muslims were busy 'terrorising' people by preserving culture and literature of earlier times. Quite horrifically gifting later generations with such a 'terrible' legacy as texts that would have otherwise been burned for heat by peasants etching out a living under the rule of harsh 'christian' lords. And when the muslims were commiting such attrocities as being slaughtered by the crusaders.
I'm terribly sorry to have doubted that somehow your people have been fighting Islamic terrorism for such a long time.
Islam is no more a religion of terrorists than is any other, it is true that there are extremists that commit attrocities, but such abberations are no more common among Muslims than they are among Christions or Jews or any other western religion and decrying a whole people as terrorists is an irresponsible and deeply irrational under-taking.
Pythogria
13-04-2006, 04:09
*sigh*

Chitzeland, you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. We don't have the recources a this moment to put someone with a brain in power, but once we do... watch out.
Chitzeland
13-04-2006, 05:20
The people of Chitzeland have been following President Copeland's messages as much as the international community has. As expected, anti-Snake Eaters riots occurred in the streets when it was learned from Copeland's speech that Snake Eaters was in opposition to the Liberty Pamphlet. Many took this as supporting terrorists, and others even went so far to claim that Snake Eaters was a terrorist state.

The controversy reached such a frenzy that Pope Rolland was called on to discuss the issue. His speech was televised both in Chitzeland and all over the world.

"Welcome, brothers in Christ," he said after mass today. "The tumultuous controversy over the nation of Snake Eaters has been gripping Chitzeland in a hateful vice ever since President Copeland spoke out against them. Many have come to me and asked ‘Father, what must be done?’ To them, I have replied, ‘nothing.’

“This is absolutely true. We must do nothing. Snake Eaters has spoken out in wisdom and peace. We must emulate them. I must say that I personally disapprove of the Liberty Pamphlets. It encourages the punishment of innocents, which is against our Lord’s teaching. You see, our Muslim brothers follow the same God that we do. Misguided that they may be, there is some light in them that we do not want to extinguish. Only those that have blood on their hands are to be punished as terrorists. We must observe this in order to preserve both their dignity and our own.”

The people accepted Pope Rolland’s words with blind faith for a few minutes, but after the crowd went away and thought about it, they became confused. It was the first time that most of them had heard conflicting views from authority sources. The people did not know what to do. Suddenly, the support for President Copeland was not as fierce. The screams at the riots went down a few decibels in volume. The crowds that gathered before the President were not quite as large. The first seeds of civil strife were sown.
Liberated New Ireland
13-04-2006, 05:28
The predominantly Catholic population of LNI refuse to accept Pope Rolland as the true Pope, however, they wholeheartedly support his message.
Snake Eaters
13-04-2006, 14:21
Barbarossa rubbed his temples as the press conference came to an end. He had just finished watching the speech of Copeland, and also read of the preaching by Pope Rolland. He turned off the plasma television, laid the transcript down, and looked at his advisors,"It would appear, ladies and gentlemen, we are locked in a war of words with this President Copeland."

He paused for a moment, pushing his glasses back up his nose and running his hand across his greying stubble, before continuing,"For the life of me, I cannot understand exactly why this man is so opposed to those of the Muslim faith. I would welcome suggestions."

His defence minister, Ramon Maschio, raised his hand,"Perhaps his nation has suffered at the hands of Islamic extremists, and he can no longer tell the difference between those who are innocent, and those who are guilty. It's not unheard of."

"Alright, that's one suggestion. Any others?"

There were none, but a hand rose from the far end,"Yes, Michelle?"

Michelle Fisher, newly-appointed Homeland Security minister, coughed slightly before she started to talk,"It's less of a suggestion than an observation. Your press conference has stirred up hatred in Chitzeland, but now they are unsure of what to do. This preaching at Mass by the Pope Rolland has caused popular support for the President to decline."

"What are you saying?"

"I'm saying, that now, we have the chance to influence them. Copeland insists that his policies are based on what the government knows to be true. If the government decided that, what about the people? Do they have a say? The term 'President' implies democracy... but we can turn this to our advantage."

Barbarossa smiled,"An open message?"

"Exactly. Don't approach or talk to Copeland anymore. He calls us ignorant, we ignore him and talk directly to his power-base. Ask them to make the decision... surely, everyone must know at least one good Muslim person. It leaves him two courses of action; first, he can attempt to silence the people, which is trying to curb free speech... we can't stand for that."

"But that would lead to war!"

"Please, Lord-President, let me finish. His second choice is to cave into popular demand, which he has to do if he wants to stay in control of this nation. If this ploy is successful, then we will know through news reports. Assuming it is, approach him again, and offer to talk, face-to-face, on neutral ground. Make that information public."

"And if this grand scheme doesn't work out?"

"Nothing can happen to us. We'll have made our views known without ever directly attacking the President. To declare war for no just reason is political suicide in this day and age."

Later that day
"Citizens of Chitzeland. You are no doubt aware of who I am. I am Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, of the Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters."

"These past days have been spent in a bitter conflict of words between myself and your esteemed President Copeland. Our conflict is one of ideals, and should remain as such. I have made my views on the Liberty Pamphlet clear to all those of you who have watched my previous press conferences. I do not support what your President is attempting to do, which is to victimise an entire race for the actions of a few misguided individuals."

"I am well aware that many of you are filled with hate for me and my nation, but I ask only that you listen. My nation too has suffered at the hands of terrorists, Islamic militants among them. But that has not given me cause to try and eradicate them from the face of the earth. I could not... I will not do that to any race, irregardless of what some of them may have done. I would not go so far as to call your President bigoted and racist in his views... I just do not agree with them."

"I am also aware that Pope Rolland has spoken to all of you, asking that you acknowledge what I am saying is worthy of your attention. There is but one issue that I ask you to consider further: President Copeland has openly stated that:"

Our government only bases its policies off of what has proven to be true... I have seen the truth behind terrorism, and it is how I preach that it is.

"If your government bases its policies of truth, whose truth is it? It is the truth as the government sees it... it could very well be ignoring your views. If you are living in a democracy with a liberal leader, then surely it is your views that matter most, not that of the President. He says his words are the truth... but whose? His? Yours? The governments? I ask you, people of Chitzeland, whose truth is he preaching?"
Chitzeland
13-04-2006, 23:54
Mark and Clendon sat drunk in a sports bar somewhere in Providence. No one besides the two of them had come to the bar yet, so they were given control of the television.

“What’s on?” asked Clendon in a loud, intoxicated voice.

Mark was busying himself with flipping through the channels. “Nothing so far…oh wait, here’s that prick president of that Snake country.”

“Get it off of that, Mark!” yelled Clendon. He slammed his beer on the table and drops went flying out.

“Hey, what else is on?”

“I wanted to watch the Seraphs game.”

“That doesn’t come on for another twenty minutes you idiot.”

“Well, let’s get it off of this sonofabitch.”

“No, you idiot.”

The two men began arguing with the television as Lord-President Barbarossa made his speech.

“Shadow Republic? Does he think he’s Lord Voldemort or something?”

“Haha. I never heard of Snake Eaters before this guy’s last speech, which got plastered all over the news.”

“I say we should go in there and kill him and show him who’s boss.”

“‘Conflict of words’? What’s sthat?”

“I think it’s a fancy term for arguing.”

“I argue with my wife all the time. Is that what he means?”

“I don’t know.”

“Yeah, he doesn’t like the Liberty Pamphlet.”

“I haven’t seen that pamphlet, so I’m not sure what it’s about. Supposedly it’s about terrorists.”

“‘Victimize an entire race’? What the hell?”

“Who is victimizing races? Do they mean like black people?”

“Hey, listen, he knows that we hate him.”

“So stop talking, you asshole!”

“He got terrorists, too. Hey, what’s an Islamic militant?”

“I think he’s saying that his military is full of Muslim terrorists.”

“Why? That doesn’t make any sense?”

“You don’t make any sense, Mark.”

“Shut up.”

“Why would he not want to eradicate terrorists?”

“What’s eradicate? This guy uses big words!”

“You’re just stupid.”

“‘Regardless of what they have done?’ I’ll tell you what they’ve done, they’re killing people you moron!”

“Pope Rolland? Who’s he?”

“The leader of our church, dumbass!”

“Oh, that old coot.”

“Now this guy is talking about truth. This is the most boring thing that I’ve ever seen!”

“What does he mean by ‘whose truth is it?’ I don’t know what he means by that, but I know that the truth is that those towelheads need to get what’s coming to them.”

“Amen to that.”

“Is he saying that our views are not the President’s views?”

“It sounds like he is asking us that.”

“Well, are the President’s views the same as are views?”

“I’m not sure. Are there any views other than our views?”

“I don’t know.”

“This guy is weird. How does he run a country?”

“The same way everyone does.”

“I guess so, although I’m not really sure how that is.”

Mark and Clendon’s insightful discourse continued long after Lord-President Barbarossa’s oratory concluded. Mark then put out for discussion the prospect of joining a rapidly growing mob outside that was joined in protest of Snake Eaters. Clendon disagreed because it would cause him to miss the Seraphs game. Mark agreed to stay. Sporting event viewing is better than riots. Riots often became too politicky.
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 08:31
OOC: Okay, I'm confused. Two drunks don't like it... but drunks don't like a lot of things. Suerly they cannot be representative of the entire population?

IC:
"We have a problem."

"Which is?"

"They didn't buy it. Well, not in the way we wanted. Instead of protests against this pamphlet, we got protests against us."

"God, these people are so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable. Actually... how did we know that?"

Michelle smiled,"Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies."

"Fair enough. What do we do now?"

"We wait. There's nothing else we can do. The ball is in his court now... but somehow, I doubt war would be his first action."

"Why?"

"Number one, we're twice the size. Secondly, the attacked nation is the one who recieves the sympathy, especially if we let him come at us."

*In Chitzeland*
The man hung up the phone, and left the booth before spying the protest down the street. He stopped a passer-by,"Hey, you know what that's all about?"

"Yeah. Barbarossa."

"Snake Eaters?"

"Yeah. They're not happy with their last speech... most of 'em are drunk."

"Seraphs game, right?"

"YEah, you gonna watch?"

"Nah, I'm gonna go see what this whole thing is about."

"More fool you pal."
Chitzeland
14-04-2006, 16:42
(OOC: The two drunks are generally representative of the population. The public education system in Chitzeland is not very good, and the result is an ignorant population.)

President Copeland’s tall figure was silhouetted against the giant windows of his cabinet meeting room. From the windows, light poured into the room, cleansing the marble floor and shining oak table. After glancing around the room and noting the attendance, he sat down in his large chair at the end of the table. The next meeting of Copeland’s cabinet was adjourned.

The atmosphere in the room was very obviously more tense than most cabinet meetings. Normally, the room was buzzing with small talk between Copeland’s Ministers. The noise would be violently punctuated by drunken laughter from President Copeland, Admiral Amherst, and General Laguardia, who had been out partying the previous night and had only recently come back to work.

On this morning, the cabinet room was silent. The recent riots against the nation of Lasqara and the imminent threat of war was draped over them heavily. The international community was not very favorably disposed towards Chitzeland at the time. Would they stand for a Chitzeland war against the Muslim state of Lasqara?

“God help us,” said President Copeland.

“I don’t know about God,” replied Amherst, “but I would like the breathing room that we deserve from the world.” There were nods of general agreement around the room.

“I understand your qualms wholeheartedly. That will be the subject of today’s meeting,” said President Copeland. “As we all know, exterminating the Lasqats before they exterminate us is of the utmost importance. We must get the international community behind us somehow.” He turned to the short, bald man sitting to his right. “Pierre, you are my diplomacy minister, what are your ideas?”

There were several giggles in the room and full belly laugh from General Laguardia. Pierre Copeland, the Vice President and Diplomacy Minister, remained silent. It was well known that he did not know anything about the issue at hand.

“Well, thank you for your input, son,” President Copeland professed. “I will put on the table my idea then. I say we turn to our new ally, the nation of Snake Eaters.”

“I am not sure that Snake Eaters will want to help us in a war,” said Barbara Decker, the room’s lone woman.

“Why not?”

“Well, I don’t know, I just don’t think they like us as much as you think they do.”

“Yes, we did have that disagreement about the pamphlet, but I believe that that is behind us now and Barbarossa is now willing to fight terrorism with me.”

“If you say so.”

“Right then, I will make my intentions known to the people of Snake Eaters.”


Ever since the retaliation by the Lasqats against the indigenous peoples of their nation, the Chitzeland war machine had begun to wind up. President Copeland did realize that a war with Lasqara after this incident with the Liberty Pamphlets would cause much suspicion amongst the international community. If he could only get someone to stand with him, then he would not look so bad.

The person he wanted to stand beside was Lord-President Barbarossa. Copeland was thoroughly convinced that his press conferences had been enough, and Barbarossa had learned the evils of his ways and was now converted to Copeland’s school of thought. Copeland sent a message to Barbarossa, asking for help.

Official Transmission
To: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters
From: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I come to you, dear friend, asking for your nation to support mine in our latest endeavour. As you may be aware, the vile towelheads of Lasqara have been oppressing their native population. As warriors against the scions of terror, we can not stand for this!

At this very moment, I am rallying my invasion forces under the guise that they are only doing routine drills. I have told Admiral Amherst to prepare a blockade of the nation, so that no one can get out. Then, when we have the Lasqats where we want them, we move in and kill every man, woman, and child. I am preparing submarines to launch missiles full of VX nerve gas into the cities in Lasqara, and I have ordered my generals to plan firebombing raids. That way, the work for the land armies should be eased somewhat.

As perfect as this plan seems, I am worried that there will be a significant backlash from the international community. My stock has been falling with them, and I am worried that they will try to stop our administering of justice. What do you say?




Meanwhile, the riots in the streets continued. The riots attracted people for all kinds of reasons. The most common reason was to voice disapproval of the nation of Snake Eaters. Other common reasons were that "there was beer there" and "I wanted to get my boss's car".
Zanski
14-04-2006, 16:58
President Merech Zanski Cleared his throat, getting ready for the speech on Zanx GovTV, a government channel in Zanski. He opened his mouth to speak, cleared his throat again and started.
"Hi. It Is Merech Zanski, president of Zanski.
I would Like To Forward this message from ZATA (Zanx Armed Terrorist Army) Which has no relevance to the government at all."

The screen changed to five or ten men in Ninja-like clothes.
One at the front started talking.
"Hello. it is the leader of ZATA, who you shall call Jarak Arma.I want to speak to president copeland.
We have ordered riots in your capital and have told the protesters to inflict as much damage as possible. But, Copeland, this is not as far as ZATA go.
Say it boys!"
The terrorists patted their chests twice then declared:
"For freedom and rights!"
Zanski
14-04-2006, 17:02
Merech Zanski continued.
"However, we are doing our best to stop this voilence that ZATA is proposing will happen and would like a peace talk this friday and would reccomend the presidents of Pythoriga, Snake eaters and Chitzeland attend."
Pythogria
14-04-2006, 17:04
Merech Zanski continued.
"However, we are doing our best to stop this voilence that ZATA is proposing will happen and would like a peace talk this friday and would reccomend the presidents of Pythoriga, Snake eaters and Chitzeland attend."

Pythogria has a Supreme General, not a president. At any rate, when's it happening?
The Amlekites
14-04-2006, 17:05
are you terrorist fools?
Pythogria
14-04-2006, 17:06
are you terrorist fools?

Was that aimed at me?
Zanski
14-04-2006, 17:09
Pythogria has a Supreme General, not a president. At any rate, when's it happening?
this friday.
ZATA has agreed not to attack any of the main figures attending and told the protesters to peacefully demonstrate... not like ZATA at all.
Pythogria
14-04-2006, 17:10
this friday.
ZATA has agreed not to attack any of the main figures attending and told the protesters to peacefully demonstrate... not like ZATA at all.

---Secret---

"I don't like this."

"No, sir, nither do I."

"Send in an ambassador, say I'm too sick to attend."

"Yes sir."
Pythogria
14-04-2006, 17:14
I would say that is a wise choice. however, if ZATA wanted to do something, they would have blown something up already. And I know ZATA, not personally of course, they were really quite upset at this phamphlet.

OOC: What I said there was under "Secret". Only I know it.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 17:15
yeh, forget that. thats why i deleted it.
Pythogria
14-04-2006, 17:16
yeh, forget that. thats why i deleted it.

Da. Understood.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 17:25
Merech Zanski walked onto GovTV proudly, as always and shuffled his papers. he started.
"We have been able to detain Jarak Arma, leader of ZATA and his fellow terrorists because of threat of terrorism. although "assasination in the name of civil rights" is not a crime in our country, we have bugged all connections to ZATA as well, making the country safe for the peace talk this friday."
Chitzeland
14-04-2006, 17:56
President Copeland was unsure how to interpret the ZATA threats. He would, for now, wait and see if anything serious happened. He was, however, interested in the talks hosted by Merech Zanski.

I can not attend this event myself, Copeland thought. Even though the situation looks like it might be safe, I am not familiar with these people and it would be too risky for me to attend. To not attend, however, would make me look like I was dodging the issue. I should send someone else.

President Copeland announced today that he will be sending Antoine Ignatius, one of his highest ministers, to the peace talks hosted by Merech Zanski. He said that he would attend himself, but with the recent riots, he did not want to leave his people and was too busy anyway.
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 18:08
Official Transmission
To: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters
From: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I come to you, dear friend, asking for your nation to support mine in our latest endeavour. As you may be aware, the vile towelheads of Lasqara have been oppressing their native population. As warriors against the scions of terror, we can not stand for this!

At this very moment, I am rallying my invasion forces under the guise that they are only doing routine drills. I have told Admiral Amherst to prepare a blockade of the nation, so that no one can get out. Then, when we have the Lasqats where we want them, we move in and kill every man, woman, and child. I am preparing submarines to launch missiles full of VX nerve gas into the cities in Lasqara, and I have ordered my generals to plan firebombing raids. That way, the work for the land armies should be eased somewhat.

As perfect as this plan seems, I am worried that there will be a significant backlash from the international community. My stock has been falling with them, and I am worried that they will try to stop our administering of justice. What do you say?
To: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland
From: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters

Sir,

Whilst Snake Eaters is dedicated to combating terrorism and oppression wherever it occurs, I cannot commit military force without significant evidence. I would not attack a nation that is in fact innocent under the guise of removing those who are in power.

You refer to these leaders as 'towelheads'. Whilst I am not Muslim, some of my highest officials are, and they rightly take offence to such a term being used. Not only that, but I cannot condone the use of nerve gas against a civilian population. You claim to be attempting to free them from oppression, but it would appear that your course of action is to wipe them from the face of the earth. You propose to kill every man, woman and child... and this makes you better than the oppressors how?

You can rest assured that, should you attack innocent civilians without just cause, instead using a cause that centres on the fact that they are followers of Islam, that not only will the political backlash will be huge, but the military power to be deployed will no doubt be so large as to make any fight you would make pointless and a waste of human life.

Barbarossa sent off the message, and then looked at the request for the peace conference. He shook his head,"ZATA not attacking... yeah, right, as if. Hell, I don't even know if I can trust this Merech Zanski..."

He then put out a notice, which stated that he would not be personally attending the meeting, instead sending an ambassador, David Irving MSc, who would be allowed to speak on behalf of the entire Assembly.
Chitzeland
14-04-2006, 18:35
President Copeland was confused by Barbarossa's choice of words. He decided to send another transmission in order to clear things up.

Official Transmission
To: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters
From: President Copeland, the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I think you are confused about the goal of this war. This may be my fault for not making it clear.

By invading Lasqara, I am trying to free everyone from oppression. Lasqara is a terrorist state that must be destroyed. I am choosing to invade them rather than the many other terrorist states because I have a good excuse. Ideally, I would invade and destroy all terrorist states. But the international backlash for such actions would be overwhelming. Now, I finally have a good reason to kill all the Muslims. We should not stand back and let this opportunity to spread justice pass us by.

The 'significant evidence' that you need is the that they are Muslim. You claim that you want to fight terrorism everywhere that it springs up, then why not here?

I also do not understand your arbitrary opposition to the use of nerve gas. Nerve gas is an inhumane solution to an inhumane problem. It will allow us to quickly kill off large Muslim armies that sleep in the towns of Lasqara. Also, there is no such thing as a terrorist civilian. Terrorists are, by definition, militant.

Yes, this war will make terrorists mad and will likely cause them to commit acts of violence. How is this different from their normal behavior?

I hope that this makes clear what we should do. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Also, did you say that some of your highest officials are terrorists? Or was that a mistake?
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 18:44
President Copeland was confused by Barbarossa's choice of words. He decided to send another transmission in order to clear things up.

Official Transmission
To: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters
From: President Copeland, the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I think you are confused about the goal of this war. This may be my fault for not making it clear.

By invading Lasqara, I am trying to free everyone from oppression. Lasqara is a terrorist state that must be destroyed. I am choosing to invade them rather than the many other terrorist states because I have a good excuse. Ideally, I would invade and destroy all terrorist states. But the international backlash for such actions would be overwhelming. Now, I finally have a good reason to kill all the Muslims. We should not stand back and let this opportunity to spread justice pass us by.

The 'significant evidence' that you need is the that they are Muslim. You claim that you want to fight terrorism everywhere that it springs up, then why not here?

I also do not understand your arbitrary opposition to the use of nerve gas. Nerve gas is an inhumane solution to an inhumane problem. It will allow us to quickly kill off large Muslim armies that sleep in the towns of Lasqara. Also, there is no such thing as a terrorist civilian. Terrorists are, by definition, militant.

Yes, this war will make terrorists mad and will likely cause them to commit acts of violence. How is this different from their normal behavior?

I hope that this makes clear what we should do. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Also, did you say that some of your highest officials are terrorists? Or was that a mistake?
Official Transmission
To:President Copeland, the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland
From:Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters

You do not have a good reason to kill all Muslims! Your reply sickens me to my very core. Freedom from oppression is an honourable goal, but by killing all those within? That is not freeing them, that is slaughtering them. The use of nerve gas, which you cite as 'an inhuman solution to an inhuman problem'... this is not the way in which war is waged... no, this is more like genocide.

I said I had Muslims in certain governmental positions... I did not say I had terrorists. Your views and preconceptions blind you, Mr. Copeland. I feel sorry for you, truly sorry, that you are so blinded by your hatred of Islamic terrorists, that you cannot tell the difference between those who wish to destroy us, and those who wish to live among us as functional members of society.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 18:58
NEWS BROADCAST


Zanski GovTV news
"Merech Zanski has arranged a peace talk with Chitzeland about this so-called "War Of The Phamphlet" but President Copeland unfortunately cannot attend the meeting because of fears from an attack organised by the Zanx Armed Terrorist Forces, who are currently in jail.
We will host the event live..."
Zanski
14-04-2006, 19:08
To: President Copeland, the People’s Democratic Republic of Chitzeland
From: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters

Sir,

Whilst Snake Eaters is dedicated to combating terrorism and oppression wherever it occurs, I cannot commit military force without significant evidence. I would not attack a nation that is in fact innocent under the guise of removing those who are in power.

You refer to these leaders as 'towelheads'. Whilst I am not Muslim, some of my highest officials are, and they rightly take offence to such a term being used. Not only that, but I cannot condone the use of nerve gas against a civilian population. You claim to be attempting to free them from oppression, but it would appear that your course of action is to wipe them from the face of the earth. You propose to kill every man, woman and child... and this makes you better than the oppressors how?

You can rest assured that, should you attack innocent civilians without just cause, instead using a cause that centres on the fact that they are followers of Islam, that not only will the political backlash will be huge, but the military power to be deployed will no doubt be so large as to make any fight you would make pointless and a waste of human life.

Barbarossa sent off the message, and then looked at the request for the peace conference. He shook his head,"ZATA not attacking... yeah, right, as if. Hell, I don't even know if I can trust this Merech Zanski..."

He then put out a notice, which stated that he would not be personally attending the meeting, instead sending an ambassador, David Irving MSc, who would be allowed to speak on behalf of the entire Assembly.

Merech Zanski cleared his throat, on GovTV once again...
"ZATA are unable to attack. They have sworn never to use terrorism in their own country or incite it. plus, they are in jail.
They think of themselves as an unofficial army, not a terrorist force.
We plead President Barbossa to attend this meeting, but we will put no more pressure on him than we have. Thank you."
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 19:09
NEWS BROADCAST
OOC: And myself?
Zanski
14-04-2006, 19:11
If you could.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 19:19
President Copeland was confused by Barbarossa's choice of words. He decided to send another transmission in order to clear things up.

Official Transmission
To: Lord-President Jacius Barbarossa, The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters
From: President Copeland, the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I think you are confused about the goal of this war. This may be my fault for not making it clear.

By invading Lasqara, I am trying to free everyone from oppression. Lasqara is a terrorist state that must be destroyed. I am choosing to invade them rather than the many other terrorist states because I have a good excuse. Ideally, I would invade and destroy all terrorist states. But the international backlash for such actions would be overwhelming. Now, I finally have a good reason to kill all the Muslims. We should not stand back and let this opportunity to spread justice pass us by.

The 'significant evidence' that you need is the that they are Muslim. You claim that you want to fight terrorism everywhere that it springs up, then why not here?

I also do not understand your arbitrary opposition to the use of nerve gas. Nerve gas is an inhumane solution to an inhumane problem. It will allow us to quickly kill off large Muslim armies that sleep in the towns of Lasqara. Also, there is no such thing as a terrorist civilian. Terrorists are, by definition, militant.

Yes, this war will make terrorists mad and will likely cause them to commit acts of violence. How is this different from their normal behavior?

I hope that this makes clear what we should do. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Also, did you say that some of your highest officials are terrorists? Or was that a mistake?

Jarak Arma, leader of ZATA is appalled by this and is trying to get links to bomb your capital, and we are on his side but do not believe voilence is the way. please get to Zanski`s capital, Xanka, ASAP for peace talks, Presidents Barabossa and Copeland.
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 19:33
Ambassador Irving stepped off the private jet, emblazoned with the flag of Snake Eaters, in the capital city of Xanka. He was dressed in a light suit, with a suitable tie and polished dark shoes. In his hand, he carried a briefcase which contained his laptop, briefing files, and certain other things... such as a handgun, with two clips of ammunition.

Like all Snake Eater citizens, he had served three years in the military, and so was trained in the use of such a weapon. His three years had been spent with the Signals Corps., but he was still trained. He prayed that he would have no cause to use the weapon... but it paid to be cautious.

He walked down the steps onto the tarmac, feeling the air-flow from the engines still rolling around, and looked around. He had been told to expect some form of transport from the airport...
Zanski
14-04-2006, 19:50
A black armour plated car whizzed round to where President Babarossa was standing.
the windows came down. inside was a man with an Ak-47 and a slightly older man.
"President Babarossa?"Said the man.
"Merech Zanski. my honour to meet you. Get in."
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 19:52
A black armour plated car whizzed round to where Barabossa was standing.
the windows came down. inside was a man with an Ak-47 and a slightly older man.
"President Barabossa?"Said the man.
President Barabossa nodded.
"Merech Zanski. my honour to meet you. Get in."
OOC: Ok, two things. 1) It's not Barbarossa there. Note, the spelling. 2) You can't control my characters. Just a little hint there...
Zanski
14-04-2006, 19:55
(ooc:yeh soz i thought you'd notice that.)
Another black car waited for copeland.
The Lone Alliance
14-04-2006, 19:56
-Response from the Lone Alliance-
Due to your actions we now Classify your nation as a Terrorist state, despite everyone's repeated reports you still believe that there is a Religion known as 'Terrorism'. The Muslim faith is a religion, Terrorism is an action. Your stupidity is astounding. If you attack another nation because you consider them part of this false Terrorism Relgion, then we may be forced to take actions. Personally I would love to beat the stupid out of you, but we feel that that would take forever.

-Lone Alliance Ministry of Dealing with Stupid and Evil nations.
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 19:58
(ooc:yeh soz i thought you'd notice that.)
Another black car waited for copeland.
OOC: I'll work on the premise that he'd just asked the question.

IC: Irving shook his head,"I'm afriad not. I'm Ambassador David Irving, here to speak on behalf of Snake Eaters."

He shook Merech Zanski's hand, and got into the car, shutting the door behind him. He felt slightly nervous around the AK, but he found it quite easy to ignore,"So, Mr. Zanski, could you tell me who else is meant to be attending this meeting?"
Zanski
14-04-2006, 19:58
-Response from the Lone Alliance-
Due to your actions we now Classify your nation as a Terrorist state, despite everyone's repeated reports you still believe that there is a Religion known as 'Terrorism'. The Muslim faith is a religion, Terrorism is an action. Your stupidity is astounding. If you attack another nation because you consider them part of this false Terrorism Relgion, then we may be forced to take actions. Personally I would love to beat the stupid out of you, but we feel that that would take forever.

-Lone Alliance Ministry of Dealing with Stupid and Evil nations.

Who was that to?
Zanski
14-04-2006, 20:01
OOC: I'll work on the premise that he'd just asked the question.

IC: Irving shook his head,"I'm afriad not. I'm Ambassador David Irving, here to speak on behalf of Snake Eaters."

He shook Merech Zanski's hand, and got into the car, shutting the door behind him. He felt slightly nervous around the AK, but he found it quite easy to ignore,"So, Mr. Zanski, could you tell me who else is meant to be attending this meeting?"

Merech Zanski lit a cigar.
"Umm, well, the replacement for President Copeland or possibly the man himself is also coming too. Cigar?"
The Lone Alliance
14-04-2006, 20:02
Who was that to?
(OOC: Chitzeland)
Zanski
14-04-2006, 20:03
(OOC: Chitzeland)

Would you like to attend the peace meeting?
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 20:05
Merech Zanski lit a cigar.
"Umm, well, the replacement for President Copeland or possibly the man himself is also coming too. Cigar?"

"No, I don't smoke cigars. Cigarettes are my poison."

He took the cue of Zanski lighting his cigar to open his packet, and retrieved a cigarette, lighting it, and sucking forcefully before blowing out the smoke,"So, what are the aims of this conference?"
The Lone Alliance
14-04-2006, 20:07
Would you like to attend the peace meeting?
Sure.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 20:11
"No, I don't smoke cigars. Cigarettes are my poison."

He took the cue of Zanski lighting his cigar to open his packet, and retrieved a cigarette, lighting it, and sucking forcefully before blowing out the smoke,"So, what are the aims of this conference?"

Merech took a puff.
"Well, to acheive peace and mantain civil rights for muslims in Chitzeland. and that country he's planning on invading, too. Somethings gotta be done to save those innocent civillians."

The car passed some derelict buildings.
"See that? That's Northwest Xanka, home of ZATA. They bombed it when Zanski was established."Said Merech Zanski.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 20:12
Sure.
Your Car is waiting for you at Xanka National Airport.
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 20:17
~snip~
"Glad to see we already agree on that main issue then. I'm under orders to ensure that the invasion doesn't take place, if possible. If not... well, I couldn't tell you beyond that."

He looked at the buildings, and frowned,"Are you certain that ZATA isn't going to stage an attack on the peace conference? Their leaders might be imprisoned, but that doesn't prevent the rest of the group staging anything."
Zanski
14-04-2006, 20:20
"Glad to see we already agree on that main issue then. I'm under orders to ensure that the invasion doesn't take place, if possible. If not... well, I couldn't tell you beyond that."

He looked at the buildings, and frowned,"Are you certain that ZATA isn't going to stage an attack on the peace conference? Their leaders might be imprisoned, but that doesn't prevent the rest of the group staging anything."

"ZATA has sworn never to use terrorism in a country we aren't at war against or in our country. And they don't kill civillians.
Only troops and corrupt governers. But you are an ally."
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 20:24
"ZATA has sworn never to use terrorism in a country we aren't at war against or in our country. And they don't kill civillians.
Only troops and corrupt governers. But you are an ally."
"Correct me, but this city is inside your country? Seems as if they don't stick to their aims."
1010102
14-04-2006, 20:26
if any of this rasist bullshit arrives inside my borders i will send you a ship full of bullshit!(he deserves it, its bullshit for bullshit.
Zanski
14-04-2006, 20:30
Merech Zanski took another puff.
"Ah, but you see, that was then. they weren't ZATA then they were GATA, Gharrakan Armed Terrorist Army. This land was Gharraka before we came. we didn't invade, we were like the Israelites. We travveled in, then fought for our land. We didn't actually do anything bad, but apparently our people weren't very friendly towards the Gharrakans, a bit racist. So they bombed us. Then I made all forms of incitement of and racism illegal. then, feeling one with the country, they changed their name to ZATA. And swore Allegance."
Gelfland
14-04-2006, 20:57
Gelfland intel
to:Chitzeland
the House of floyd is a group with religious motivation although the exact nature of ther religion is unknown, in the past, extremeist members of the organisation have been connected with anti-government activites, we have yet to uncover definte proof of WMD posession, due in part to our strict policy of eliminating any terrorist cell as it is discovered.
Wanderjar
14-04-2006, 21:01
OOC: This is an OPEN forum/RP right?
Snake Eaters
14-04-2006, 21:07
OOC: This is an OPEN forum right?
\OOC: Depends. If it's directly related to this thread, yeah. If not, then no point in posting.

~snip~
Irving nodded,"I see... so, they don't attack you... more of a mercenary organisation than anything else, by the sound of it."
Chitzeland
14-04-2006, 21:32
Antoine Ignatius arrived on his private jet. He found the black car that was waiting for him and got in.

"Hello. I'm Antoine Ignatius, representing President Copeland of Chitzeland."



Meanwhile, President Copeland was incensed at the sheer stupidity of the message he received from some nation called "The Lone Alliance".

Official Transmission
To: Lone Alliance Ministry of Dealing with Stupid and Evil nations
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

Chitzeland, a terrorist state?! You, sir, must be mentally incapacitated. We despise everything that terrorism stands for, namely killing of the innocent, attacking without warning, and evil.

Also, I never said anywhere that terrorism is a religion. Also, I would like to see where you came up with the idea that Islam is a religion. If it is a religion, then it is a religion that preaches death.

Your useless tirade serves nothing more than to show your incompetance.




Message from Chitzeland Intelligence
To: Gelfland Intel
Thank you for the information regarding the House of Floyd. If we hear anything else from them, we will notify you.
Wanderjar
14-04-2006, 23:11
*****MESSAGE TO PYTHGRIA*****


I, the Emperor of the Dominion of Wanderjar, declares that in the event of a seemingly necessary attack on Chitzeland, we will assist in the endevor however we can. Until then, our embargos shall stand.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 00:59
A startling event unfolded today. Over ninety people gathered outside Congress today in protest of the Liberty Pamphlets. Inspired by Pope Rolland, the group demanded that the government stop printing the pamphlets and change its stance on them. The group got in the way of workers and disrupted the flow of traffic. This occurence may not seem significant or even notable to other nations, but in Chitzeland, where the political ideology is so homogenous, it is a first. President Copeland or any member of his cabinet have not released any statements concerning the protests.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 01:02
A startling event unfolded today. Over ninety people gathered outside Congress today in protest of the Liberty Pamphlets. Inspired by Pope Rolland, the group demanded that the government stop printing the pamphlets and change its stance on them. The group got in the way of workers and disrupted the flow of traffic. This occurence may not seem significant or even notable to other nations, but in Chitzeland, where the political ideology is so homogenous, it is a first. President Copeland or any member of his cabinet have not released any statements concerning the protests.
I'll have you know that my agents are watching each and every one of those protestors.
If something happens to one of them, we will hold your government personally responsible.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 01:11
****MESSAGE TO CHITZELAND****

To: Esteemed President Copeland of Chitzeland

From: The Emperor of the Dominion of Wanderjar

In the defense of Human rights, and as a United Nations Delegate, i ask that you cease hostilities against Islam, and adopt a national policy of tolerance. I urge you on behalf of all freedom loving people to comply with these demands.


---The Emperor of Wanderjar
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 01:12
****MESSAGE TO CHITZELAND****

To: Esteemed President Copeland of Chitzeland

From: The Emperor of the Dominion of Wanderjar

In the defense of Human rights, and as a United Nations Delegate, i ask that you cease hostilities against Islam, and adopt a national policy of tolerance. I urge you on behalf of all freedom loving people to comply with these demands.


---The Emperor of Wanderjar

Pythogria agrees.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 02:20
Official Transmission
To: Liberated New Ireland
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am flattered that you are paying attention to these obscene protests. If any of your agents are found, they will be arrested and inprisoned. That is, if you really have agents in my nation, which I doubt that you do.


Official Transmission
To: Emperor of Wanderjar
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

In your request, you say that you are defending human rights. Do you mean the rights of terrorists? They deserve no rights, for all they do is strip others of their rights. You also claim to be representing the UN. Now, I am not a UN member, but I happen to know that the UN condemns terrorism, so you are not doing a very good job as a representative. End hostilities against Islam and tolerate it? Why? That is one of the most absurd demands that I have ever heard. You also claim to be a freedom loving person. The freedom to be a terrorist should not be among those freedoms, or else there will soon be no man alive to have freedoms.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 02:21
"Sir...Are you alright?" Major General Patrick Sellers asked Emperor Baker of Wanderjar.
"No, Herr General, I fear that with this man Copeland, we shall have our next war." Emperor Christoph Baker of Wanderjar was a young man of only thirty, but had a stark disposition about him as he slumped in his chair. Over Twenty men, all members of Wanderjar's Officer Corps., sat around a large table covered by a map of Chitzeland, awaiting orders from their Emperor.
"Do you want me to mobilize my Hounds of Hell?" General Richard O'neil, commander of the 6th Armored Division "Hounds of Hell" asked, sitting in his leather chair on the other side of the large breifing room.
"No. Not yet. I still have enough faith in humanity to think that Copeland may listen to reason. So no....no violence....yet."
"As you command, my Emperor," O'Neil replied.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 02:23
Official Transmission
To: Emperor of Wanderjar
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

In your request, you say that you are defending human rights. Do you mean the rights of terrorists? They deserve no rights, for all they do is strip others of their rights. You also claim to be representing the UN. Now, I am not a UN member, but I happen to know that the UN condemns terrorism, so you are not doing a very good job as a representative. End hostilities against Islam and tolerate it? Why? That is one of the most absurd demands that I have ever heard. You also claim to be a freedom loving person. The freedom to be a terrorist should not be among those freedoms, or else there will soon be no man alive to have freedoms.

Not all Muslims are terrorists. As a matter of fact, it's a minority. There are Christian ones. There are Buddhist ones. There are Shinto ones for god's sake! Any perfectly peaceful belief will have a few nutcases. Now, if a Muslim extremist decides to "kill the infidels", that's no reason to allow murder. But the majority of Muslims are intelligent, peaceful people who deserve human rights and do not commit murder.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 02:27
Official Transmission
To: Liberated New Ireland
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am flattered that you are paying attention to these obscene protests. If any of your agents are found, they will be arrested and inprisoned. That is, if you really have agents in my nation, which I doubt that you do.

If you harm and intern my people AT ALL, we WILL take a course of action we deem necessary to release them and return them to our lands. If some of your gestapo are killed in the process, so be it.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 02:29
If you harm and intern my people AT ALL, we WILL take a course of action we deem necessary to release them and return them to our lands. If some of your gestapo are killed in the process, so be it.

Should Chitzeland imprison your agents, they will meet the full brunt of Black Ops.

---Secret, only LNI and I know this---

Perhaps we should assasinate their president with a Kabalt orbital cannonball?
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 02:31
Should Chitzeland imprison your agents, they will meet the full brunt of Black Ops.

---Secret, only LNI and I know this---

Perhaps we should assasinate their president with a Kabalt orbital cannonball?
---Secret, between me and Pyth---
Sounds good to me. Fire in the hole!
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 02:32
---Secret, between me and Pyth---
Sounds good to me. Fire in the hole!

---00ber s35cret---

Well, we'll use a small one. And we'll use the Stealth Sattelite so they can't attribute responsibility!
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 02:32
---Secret, Me and Pyth---
Wait, give them some demands first.
Then hit them.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 02:33
---Secret, Me and Pyth---
Wait, give them some demands first.
Then hit them.

---Secret, LNI & Me---

So I demand they stop this nonsense, and if they don't, fire in the hole?
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 02:35
---Secret, LNI & Me---

So I demand they stop this nonsense, and if they don't, fire in the hole?
---Secret, Pyth and Me---
Right. Demand that the president resign, and walk down the main street of his capital city. While his citizens throw rotten tomatoes at him.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 02:37
---Secret, Pyth and Me---
Right. Demand that the president resign, and walk down the main street of his capital city. While his citizens throw rotten tomatoes at him.

---Secret---

Will do, minus tomatoes.

---End Secret---

Chitzeland, we have come to the conclusion that your president is simply too dysfunctional to rule. We demand you put someone sane in power.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 02:39
---Secret---

Will do, minus tomatoes.

---End Secret---

Chitzeland, we have come to the conclusion that your president is simply too dysfunctional to rule. We demand you put someone sane in power.
The People's Republic of Liberated New Ireland agrees with Pythogria, makes the same demand.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 02:42
Official Transmission
To: Liberated New Ireland
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I am flattered that you are paying attention to these obscene protests. If any of your agents are found, they will be arrested and inprisoned. That is, if you really have agents in my nation, which I doubt that you do.


Official Transmission
To: Emperor of Wanderjar
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

In your request, you say that you are defending human rights. Do you mean the rights of terrorists? They deserve no rights, for all they do is strip others of their rights. You also claim to be representing the UN. Now, I am not a UN member, but I happen to know that the UN condemns terrorism, so you are not doing a very good job as a representative. End hostilities against Islam and tolerate it? Why? That is one of the most absurd demands that I have ever heard. You also claim to be a freedom loving person. The freedom to be a terrorist should not be among those freedoms, or else there will soon be no man alive to have freedoms.


To: President Copeland

From: Emperor Christoph Baker of the Dominion of Wanderjar


Indeed i am representing the United Nations. If you would read the UN charter, it specifically says that all men deserve basic Human Rights. Among these are right to a fair trial, and in the case of terrorists, at an international court. Also, indeed the UN does condemn terrorism, but i do not believe that it sanctions GENOCIDE. I am aware that you have not committed this act as of yet, i am however warning you that it is becoming increasingly fearful that you have this in mind. Islam also is not a religion of violence as you so claim. It specifically says that violence is not sanctioned by Allah. Your claim about the Middle East becoming overrun by Islam due to violence is true. This did happen. But the Jewish people fought and killed for thousands of years in the name of their god, whom they believed wanted them to fight to defend their Promised Land. Or the Christians, who fought for centuries over Jerusalem. Or again in the Thirty Years war between Catholics and Protestants. Can you not see that all of the top three Universalizing religions, have commited atrocities? Islam is not the only culprit of past terrorism. These terrorists now are even disowned by many people throughout the world. Many say they don't deserve the honor of being called Muslim. Another modern example of non-muslim terrorism is the Irish Republican Army. They go about their operations under the banner of Christianity. Or the

Islam is not the enemy. A few bad men who have their own twisted Agendas, and take a small minority of men who have no education, no hope, and no future, and make them believe in their ideals, and convince them to fight for them. They are your enemy. Not innocent people. How can you define who is innocent and who isnt? This is a good question, but thats what intelligence services are for, to dig in depth into these organizations, and know who is in them, so counter terror teams may dispose of them.

Make ammends with the people of Islam, and rally with us to fight terror organizations, not innocent people.



--- Emperor Baker of the Dominion of Wanderjar
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 02:43
---Secret---

Will do, minus tomatoes.

---End Secret---

Chitzeland, we have come to the conclusion that your president is simply too dysfunctional to rule. We demand you put someone sane in power.
Because of the massive volume of demands, threats, and marriage proposals President Copeland receives every day, he had a secretary hired to sift through the messages and make sure only worthy ones reach him. This particular message was thrown out on the grounds that the sender obviously did not know who President Copeland was.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 02:45
Because of the massive volume of demands, threats, and marriage proposals President Copeland receives every day, he had a secretary hired to sift through the messages and make sure only worthy ones reach him. This particular message was thrown out on the grounds that the sender obviously did not know who President Copeland was.
---Secret, Pyth and me---
I believe it's time to drop the kebalt.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 02:46
****Secret Message to Pythogria*****



From Emperor Baker, Priority 1.

Do it. Take him down.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 03:01
****Secret Message to Pythogria*****



From Emperor Baker, Priority 1.

Do it. Take him down.

---Secret---

As you wish.

---End Secret---

A cannonball of unknown orgin dropped from space, onto the President's head.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 03:01
-snip-
Official Transmission
To: The Emperor of Wanderjar
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I must admit, you bring up some good points. But I will now say to you what I have said to all those who bring up your points against me.

It is true that Christians, Jews, and indeed almost every imaginable ethnic and religious group has something that they have done in their history labeled "atrocity". The key difference between these groups and Muslims is that Christians and Jews have good members, whereas there are non in Islam.

I honestly do not understand why people keep trying to defend Islam. I think it is because of the fact that they claim to be a righteous religion. Islam is actually a demonic relgion. The Quran, the Muslims' "guide" to terrorism, says in one verse that a Muslim should "Kill all and leave nothing but devastation in your wake." [OOC Note: I don't want anyone to think that this is an actual quote from the Quran.]

Counter terror teams are actually quite pointless. There are only two kinds of Muslims: those who have committed an act of terror, and those who will. I am glad that you wish to fight terrorism with me, but your disagreements about what terrorism is make me feel that you are misguided.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 03:07
The Providence Report, a nightly news program in the nation's capital, had a special story tonight about a rare occurence. The headline read:

Meteorite Smashes Bridge, One Man Injured

(OOC: The possibility of orbital cannons has been discussed over and over again, and it is widely agreed that orbital cannons of as percise accuracy as you claim to have are simply not feasible for Modern Tech. Hate to burst your bubble.)
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 03:14
The Providence Report, a nightly news program in the nation's capital, had a special story tonight about a rare occurence. The headline read:

Meteorite Smashes Bridge, One Man Injured

(OOC: The possibility of orbital cannons has been discussed over and over again, and it is widely agreed that orbital cannons of as percise accuracy as you claim to have are simply not feasible for Modern Tech. Hate to burst your bubble.)

OOC: It's very plausible for MT, and I use 2015. It's very possible to target a guy with a Kabalt.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 03:27
"Damnit!" Emperor Baker screamed in rage, startling the others in the room. "The bombardment did not work. What to do now?"
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 03:30
To: President Copeland of Citzeland

From: Emperor Baker of the Dominion of Wanderjar


Might I ask how you intend to wage your war on Islam? Do you think the international community will sit idly by and allow you to, I'm assuming this is what you have in mind, eradicate these people? If you do, then you are for one, sadly mistaken, and secondly, insane.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 03:32
---Secret IC---
Under cover of night, 300 agents of the PRLNI Defense Forces slipped into the capital of Chitzeland, armed with bullpups and sniper rifles.
---End Secret---
The PRLNI reiterates its demand that the incompetent president of Chitzeland step down.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 03:39
********SECRET*************

To: Pythogria/Liberated New Ireland
I vote a coalition assault at Citzeland unless he relinquishes power within 24 hours. That should be the Ultimatum. Am i supported?

I will be working on the Ultimatum speech while you decide. I'll take no further action nor shall i provoke Copeland any further with out your approval.


I pledge three million and five hundred thousand troops to this invasion. If needed, i can arrange for many more.


cheers,

Emperor Baker
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 03:42
********SECRET*************

To: Pythogria/Liberated New Ireland
I vote a coalition assault at Citzeland unless he relinquishes power within 24 hours. That should be the Ultimatum. Am i supported?

I pledge three million and five hundred thousand troops to this invasion. If needed, i can arrange for many more.
---Secret---
I disagree, I don't want civilian bloodshed (also, me and Pyth are locked in a war with Kraven). I have 300 SpecOps soldiers prepared to take out the president. Perhaps you could send in some Special Forces to aid me.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 03:43
********SECRET*************

To: Pythogria/Liberated New Ireland
I vote a coalition assault at Citzeland unless he relinquishes power within 24 hours. That should be the Ultimatum. Am i supported?

I will be working on the Ultimatum speech while you decide. I'll take no further action nor shall i provoke Copeland any further with out your approval.


I pledge three million and five hundred thousand troops to this invasion. If needed, i can arrange for many more.


cheers,

Emperor Baker

---Secret---

Pythogrian troops are busy defending their homeland against Kraven.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 03:49
The message from Liberated New Ireland was thrown out before ever being seen by the President. Emperor Baker's message, however, made it to President Copeland's eyes, but the President soon wished that it had not. Again, he would have to do more explaining to these people who did not know how to fight terrorism.

Official Transmission
To: Emperor Baker, the Dominion of Wanderjar
From: President Copeland, the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I prefer to say that I wage war on terrorism, not Islam, because the
term terrorism also applies to those terrorists who do not claim to be Muslim. I also do not intend on eradicating them, but I will try my best. I can only hope to inspire those who will come after me to continue the fight. In many cases, those doing saintly acts have been labeled "insane". If I am insane in your book, then I really do not care.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 03:51
---Secret---
Fuck this, who wants me to launch the attack?
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 04:12
OOC: I'm off to bed. I'll continue posting in the morning. Been a blast guys, Citzeland, ive enjoyed arguing with you so far ;)
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 04:13
---Secret---

Pythogrian troops are busy defending their homeland against Kraven.

Oh yes, i forgot about your problem with Kraven Corportation. I thank you anyway.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 04:15
---Secret---
I disagree, I don't want civilian bloodshed (also, me and Pyth are locked in a war with Kraven). I have 300 SpecOps soldiers prepared to take out the president. Perhaps you could send in some Special Forces to aid me.

Will do. My Spetznaz will aid you how ever they can. I give you full control of 300 Spetznaz (Armed with Colt 1911 pistols, and G-36 assault rifles)
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 04:19
Will do. My Spetznaz will aid you how ever they can. I give you full control of 300 Spetznaz (Armed with Colt 1911 pistols, and G-36 assault rifles)
(OOC: Just be aware that it will be nearly impossible to sneak those in to Chitzeland. Airport security is much more strict. They will scan all your bags, open all your bags, and cut up suspcious clothing.)
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 04:27
(OOC: Just be aware that it will be nearly impossible to sneak those in to Chitzeland. Airport security is much more strict. They will scan all your bags, open all your bags, and cut up suspcious clothing.)
OOC: I already got 300 SpecOps troopers into your capital.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 04:53
OOC: I already got 300 SpecOps troopers into your capital.
(OOC: Well, you may want to use fluid time and RP how they got in here. The reason I didn't call you on them when you first mentioned it was that I assumed that they were the agents you said you had spying in my nation and they had simply went to the store and bought some guns. Also, I'll be sending you a telegram with some things to consider when you plan your operation.)
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 06:54
Emperor Baker set the letters from his allies Pythogria and Liberated New Ireland on the table before him.
"Well, Pythogria is tied up with military problems with Kraven Corporation, and so is New Ireland. So here are our options, invade ourselves, or use the option proposed by LNI."
A curious Brigadier General asked, "Which is, sir?"
A smile crossed Baker's face, "Use the GRU." A look of shock appeared on everyones face. The GRU were Wanderjar's cheif intelligence agency, used for espionage, and when the time was right, much like its Soviet Union predecessor, assassination.
"I want to send an expenditionary force consisting of 300 Spetznaz operators to LNI, for him to use in support of his own operators in the nation. General Alexander Flanders, you're the Spetznaz Commanding officer, make it happen."
With a even larger grin than his Emperors, General Flanders replied, "Right away, sir! It would be my pleasure."
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 06:54
OOC: This is my first RP, how am i doing?
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 06:58
OOC: This is my first RP, how am i doing?

OOC: Imncredibly well. Is uggest you join DW. It's in Asbena's "new system" thread.
Snake Eaters
15-04-2006, 08:16
OOC: And the policy of diplomacy went where? WE haven't even started discussing anything at the peace conference, and already you guys are trying to start a war. You all need to be a little more realistic in your RP'ing skills.

IC: Barbarossa's fist hit the table, almost shattering the glass top,"What the hell happened?"

"Looks like Pythogria was intending to attend the peace conference, and then changed their mind. Not only that, but this Wanderjar seems to have no wish for diplomacy."

"So, now what?"

"The possibility of war is undeniable."

"Chances?"

"I'd say, without us intervening, the chances of war are 70-30 in favour of it. We could redress the balance, but it would be difficult if war were to break out."

Barbarossa nodded,"Alright, send this message:"

TO: All nations
From: The Shadow Republic of Snake Eaters

We urge all those of you who feel that war is the only course of action to send one representative to the peace conference currently being held in Zanski, in the capital city of Xanka. Here, perhaps we can avoid the wasteful loss of life.
The Lone Alliance
15-04-2006, 08:43
Location: Zanski, Capital city of Xanka
"Good luck Mr.Prime Minister." The pilot said as the Delagate stepped off the plane. "Come now John, That was only during the Kravania War, I'm quite happy being the International Relations Minister."
"Whatever you say Verta." "Yeah Whatever I say."

He departed the plane and got in the Car to head for the peace meeting.
Zanski
15-04-2006, 09:31
Merech Zanski is sitting in his office, writing his speech for the Peace Conference. He picks up his phone and calls his secretary.
"Hello? Luna?"
"Yes, Prime Minister?"
"Phone the hotels where the world leaders or their replacements are staying. Send an armoured vehicle with one armed soldier in the front. tell the soldier to drive to the government building."
"Right away."
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 15:51
"Herr Emperor, do you desire to attend the Peace Conference?" General Michael Sanford, the Emperor's Aide, asked.
"Yes, that would be fine," He replied. "Get my car, if you would be so kind."
"Without delay m'lord,"
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 18:02
Another protest was raging outside the Capital Building. This time, the crowd was three thousand strong. They claimed to be supporting Pope Rolland and protesting the Liberty Pamphlets. One man had a megaphone and was leading the crowd in a chant of "Stop printing now!"

The thunderous crowd was silenced when eight AT-45's rolled on to the scene. Out of the back of the vehicles came several squads of soldiers. The soldiers rallied together and then marched forward in their grey trenchcoats towards the mob. A lieutenant ordered the crowd to disperse.

The crowd did not comply.

Tear gas was employed.

A rock was thrown.

Shots were fired.

At the end, 54 protesters lay dead and four more were wounded. As the AT-45's rolled away from the fleeing crowd, medical teams were brought in.

The government controlled television news did not provide coverage. News of incident was delivered via newspaper to a horrified public. Some remained in support of the Liberty Pamphlets, claiming that those who were killed deserved to die. The large majority, however, did not know what to think.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 18:04
Another protest was raging outside the Capital Building. This time, the crowd was three thousand strong. They claimed to be supporting Pope Rolland and protesting the Liberty Pamphlets. One man had a megaphone and was leading the crowd in a chant of "Stop printing now!"

The thunderous crowd was silenced when eight AT-45's rolled on to the scene. Out of the back of the vehicles came several squads of soldiers. The soldiers rallied together and then marched forward in their grey trenchcoats towards the mob. A lieutenant ordered the crowd to disperse.

The crowd did not comply.

Tear gas was employed.

A rock was thrown.

Shots were fired.

At the end, 54 protesters lay dead and four more were wounded. As the AT-45's rolled away from the fleeing crowd, medical teams were brought in.

The government controlled television news did not provide coverage. News of incident was delivered via newspaper to a horrified public. Some remained in support of the Liberty Pamphlets, claiming that those who were killed deserved to die. The large majority, however, did not know what to think.


---Secret---

"This has gone far too far, for long enough. Send in our Black Ops, and put theor president's brains on the wall!"

---Chitzeland, President's Residence---

Eight Black Ops agents waited for the perfect moment to strike, and kil lthe Chitzelandi President.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 18:09
---Chitzeland, President's Residence---

Eight Black Ops agents waited for the perfect moment to strike, and kil lthe Chitzelandi President.
(OOC: How did they get there?)
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 18:09
---Secret---

"This has gone far too far, for long enough. Send in our Black Ops, and put theor president's brains on the wall!"

---Chitzeland, President's Residence---

Eight Black Ops agents waited for the perfect moment to strike, and kil lthe Chitzelandi President.
---Secret---
Would you like my SpecOps to stage a diversionary raid on the various hardpoints we've discovered in Copeland City?
---End Secret---
The People's Republic of Liberated New Ireland will ask you one more time, President Copeland: Step down from your office. We will not idly sit by while you massacre your own citizens.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 18:10
(OOC: How did they get there?)

OOC: Well, I could have easily snuck in through an airport/port, given how you RP your populous.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 18:11
---Secret---
Would you like my SpecOps to stage a diversionary raid on the various hardpoints we've discovered in Copeland City?
---End Secret---
The People's Republic of Liberated New Ireland will ask you one more time, President Copeland: Step down from your office. We will not idly sit by while you massacre your own citizens.

---Secret---

Do so.

---End Secret---
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 18:12
---Secret---

Do so.

---End Secret---
---Secret---
I'm going to give him one more chance
---End Secret---
The PRLNI awaits a reply, Copeland.
Snake Eaters
15-04-2006, 18:23
Another protest was raging outside the Capital Building. This time, the crowd was three thousand strong. They claimed to be supporting Pope Rolland and protesting the Liberty Pamphlets. One man had a megaphone and was leading the crowd in a chant of "Stop printing now!"

The thunderous crowd was silenced when eight AT-45's rolled on to the scene. Out of the back of the vehicles came several squads of soldiers. The soldiers rallied together and then marched forward in their grey trenchcoats towards the mob. A lieutenant ordered the crowd to disperse.

The crowd did not comply.

Tear gas was employed.

A rock was thrown.

Shots were fired.

At the end, 54 protesters lay dead and four more were wounded. As the AT-45's rolled away from the fleeing crowd, medical teams were brought in.

The government controlled television news did not provide coverage. News of incident was delivered via newspaper to a horrified public. Some remained in support of the Liberty Pamphlets, claiming that those who were killed deserved to die. The large majority, however, did not know what to think.
"Sir!"

Barbarossa looked in horror at what had just happened, and then took the transcript of a phone call made to a fake company just afterwards, describing what had happened.

From: Barbarossa
To: Copeland

HOw do propose to explain this!? We are on the verge of a peace conference to prevent a conflict, and then this happens. Sir, your men have murdered innocents... I am no longer certain if I can trust you at this conference, and as such I am elevating the armed forces to secondary alert.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 18:42
OOC: Well, I could have easily snuck in through an airport/port, given how you RP your populous.
(OOC: I wouldn't think so. Airport security is very tight in Chitzeland, especially flights coming from other countries. The people of Chitzeland look on other nations as inferior, and as such rarely go out of their own country. Therefore, there is little traffic coming in to Chitzeland by air. Because of the jingoistic stance that Chitzeland takes on terrorism, extensive checks are performed by security crews right after passengers leave their planes. These checks include opening all luggage, reading all documents, brief checks on all electronic equipment, taking off and scanning all clothes, and a brief interrogation. Port security officials do not do quite as extensive checks, but they still perform most of the same procedures. Also, if you were to come in by boat, it would take several days. Then, there would be the task of entering the President's residence. The residence is not open to the public, and is guarded by a security team of over 120 counter terrorist specialists. If you want, you can RP your team trying to enter the country.)

Although the secretary considered throwing out yet another threat from some place called Liberated New Ireland, it was the third such message, so she thought she would hand it on to the President to see what he thought about it.

President Copeland was amused. He sent a reply:

Official Transmission
To: The People's Republic of Liberated New Ireland
From: President Copeland, The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzeland

I will have you know, sir, that the "massacre" you speak of had nothing to do with me. Also, the insurgents that were involved in the incident were attacking our soldiers with intent to kill. Our soldiers were only there to make sure that the mob did not harm some other civilians, which were protesting the protest.

I will obviously not step down. It would be a disservice to the people of Chitzeland, who elected me.

If you will please keep your nose out of our affairs, I would be thankful.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 18:47
OOC: OK, I'll enter my own way.

IC:

---Black Ops Sattelite---

The best team Pythogria had, Agents 001-016, were launched in an airplane from a satellite.

---Chitzeland---

The team landed the plane on top of a mountain over the capital city, and went down the mountain. Coming to a wall around the residence, they decided to scale it. Climbing, they found a guard on the wall, and blasted him with silenced ZA-1s.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 18:53
OOC: The PRLNI rarely sends letters, we usually send couriers, actually. PS, do you have cameras in your sewer system?

IC:
---Secret---
Pythogria, perhaps assassinating the president will turn him into a martyr.
It might serve our purposes better if we incite a revolution in the capital. The people seem to be on the verge of turning against the President.
---End of Secret---
The Bloody Sunday-style massacre was commited by soldiers under your command.
Perhaps you should read up on the PIRA before you execute your citizens so rashly.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 18:54
OOC: The PRLNI rarely sends letters, we usually send couriers, actually. PS, do you have cameras in your sewer system?

IC:
---Secret---
Pythogria, perhaps assassinating the president will turn him into a martyr.
It might serve our purposes better if we incite a revolution in the capital. The people seem to be on the verge of turning against the President.


---Secret---

That would certainly work. I'll fly in a speaker.

---End Secret---

A speaker was flown in exactly the same way.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 18:56
President Copeland was meeting in the war room with several of his generals.

"Sir, I am not sure of the likelyhood of another protest," began one general. "On one hand, the actions agaisnt these protesters has already spawned much outrage. On the other hand, they will be afraid to go out and protest because they might think that we would order our troops on them again."

"It is very simple, really," said Copeland. "Any protest must be met with an adequate force. Try not to kill any of the protestors, but use intimidation and arrest certain leaders in order to try and get the mob to disperse. Opening fire should only be a last resort. Make sure your men know that next time. I will not have my power dimininished when I need it the most."

From: Barbarossa
To: Copeland

HOw do propose to explain this!? We are on the verge of a peace conference to prevent a conflict, and then this happens. Sir, your men have murdered innocents... I am no longer certain if I can trust you at this conference, and as such I am elevating the armed forces to secondary alert.
Official Transmission
To: Barbarossa
From: Copeland

My sadness for what has happened today is indescribable. The troops were only there so that the protesters did not harm passing by civilians that toted a contradictory message. The problem was with miscommunication in the lower ranks, and the ones responsible have been appropriately taken care of.

Antoine Ignatius, my representative at the peace meeting, is a nice man. I have not gotten to know him very well, but he also served in my father's cabinet and he spoke very well of him.

We should not focus on events that distract us from fighting terror.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 18:56
---Secret---
My SpecOps have quietly been making contacts among the more rebellious citizens in the Chitzeland populace.
Snake Eaters
15-04-2006, 18:59
President Copeland was meeting in the war room with several of his generals.

"Sir, I am not sure of the likelyhood of another protest," began one general. "On one hand, the actions agaisnt these protesters has already spawned much outrage. On the other hand, they will be afraid to go out and protest because they might think that we would order our troops on them again."

"It is very simple, really," said Copeland. "Any protest must be met with an adequate force. Try not to kill any of the protestors, but use intimidation and arrest certain leaders in order to try and get the mob to disperse. Opening fire should only be a last resort. Make sure your men know that next time. I will not have my power dimininished when I need it the most."


Official Transmission
To: Barbarossa
From: Copeland

My sadness for what has happened today is indescribable. The troops were only there so that the protesters did not harm passing by civilians that toted a contradictory message. The problem was with miscommunication in the lower ranks, and the ones responsible have been appropriately taken care of.

Antoine Ignatius, my representative at the peace meeting, is a nice man. I have not gotten to know him very well, but he also served in my father's cabinet and he spoke very well of him.

We should not focus on events that distract us from fighting terror.

To: Copeland
From: Barbarossa.

I understand what you are saying. However, this incident does not bode well, and as such the armed forces will remain on secondary alert for the time being. I regret having to take this course of action, but I and my officials feel it necessery to ensure peace and stability should the time arise.

I have sent David Irving, a man who I hold in high regard, as the representative of Snake Eaters to this meeting.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 19:00
---Secret---
My SpecOps have quietly been making contacts among the more rebellious citizens in the Chitzeland populace.

---Secret---

Good work. Once this revolution suceeds, Chitzeland wil lFINALLY not be psychotic.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 19:05
OOC: Would it be possible to take over the government-controlled news to promote an anti-government message, "V for Vendetta"-style?
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 19:19
****SECRET MESSAGE****


To: Liberated New Ireland

From: The Emperor of Wanderjar


Remember, my GRU Spetznaz operators can be a valuable resource in a guerrilla war, this is what they are trained to do. Counter Terror, Counter Insurgency, or waging guerilla war, and training revolutionaries. Im sure you will use them well.


--- Emperor Baker of the Dominion of Wanderjar
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 19:23
****SECRET MESSAGE****


To: Liberated New Ireland

From: The Emperor of Wanderjar


Remember, my GRU Spetznaz operators can be a valuable resource in a guerrilla war, this is what they are trained to do. Counter Terror, Counter Insurgency, or vice versa. Im sure you will use them well.


--- Emperor Baker of the Dominion of Wanderjar
Secret communique from the PRLNI, to Wanderjar:
At the moment, they're helping us spread dissent. We're trying to start a revolution from within, rather than a coup from without. (Or something like that.)
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 19:24
Secret communique from the PRLNI, to Wanderjar:
At the moment, they're helping us spread dissent. We're trying to start a revolution from within, rather than a coup from without. (Or something like that.)


I am pleased to hear this. They will not let you down.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 19:29
OOC: Imncredibly well. Is uggest you join DW. It's in Asbena's "new system" thread.

(OOC:Where can i locate this thread?)
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 19:35
(OOC:Where can i locate this thread?)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477616 contains links to everything.
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 19:37
A giant crowd of over half a million gathered outside St. Peter's Cathedral in western Providence. The doors of a balcony overlooking the Papal Square opened, and Pope Rolland stepped out, ready to address his followers. The crowd exploded in cheers.

The Pope threw up his arms and blessed the crowd. He then addressed them in a kind, fatherly voice:

"Brothers in Christ, today is a terrible day in the history of our beloved nation. Peaceful protesters have been gunned down by the avatars of our government. We must not stand for this. I am glad to hear that those responsible for the catastrophe have been punished, but this is not enough! We must hear from President Copeland himself!

"If we are to as a nation ascend in to the kingdom of Christ, then we must be sure that massacres such as this never again occur. How can we do this? By making our voices heard! We must protest day and night until our voices are heard. We must unify. Only together will our voices be heard.

“However, we must not resort to violen—”

Three shots rang out. Pope Rolland fell backwards. Security officials opened the doors of the balcony and pulled the Pope inside.

Newspapers later reported that the Pope was still alive, but in serious condition. The assassin was captured and claimed that he was provided resources and ordered to kill Pope Rolland by a minister from President Copeland’s cabinet. President Copeland has yet to comment on either the attempted assassination or the violence that occurred during the protests earlier today.
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 19:39
A giant crowd of over half a million gathered outside St. Peter's Cathedral in western Providence. The doors of a balcony overlooking the Papal Square opened, and Pope Rolland stepped out, ready to address his followers. The crowd exploded in cheers.

The Pope threw up his arms and blessed the crowd. He then addressed them in a kind, fatherly voice:

"Brothers in Christ, today is a terrible day in the history of our beloved nation. Peaceful protesters have been gunned down by the avatars of our government. We must not stand for this. I am glad to hear that those responsible for the catastrophe have been punished, but this is not enough! We must hear from President Copeland himself!

"If we are to as a nation ascend in to the kingdom of Christ, then we must be sure that massacres such as this never again occur. How can we do this? By making our voices heard! We must protest day and night until our voices are heard. We must unify. Only together will our voices be heard.

“However, we must not resort to violen—”

Three shots rang out. Pope Rolland fell backwards. Security officials opened the doors of the balcony and pulled the Pope inside.

Newspapers later reported that the Pope was still alive, but in serious condition. The assassin was captured and claimed that he was provided resources and ordered to kill Pope Rolland by a minister from President Copeland’s cabinet. President Copeland has yet to comment on either the attempted assassination or the violence that occurred during the protests earlier today.


"Very well. It's showtime."

The rebellion began, in front of the President's Residence. Hundreds of citizens protested, being led by a Pythogrian Speaker, protected by guards. The Special Forces that infiltrated had also got the crowd firarms, and the crowd began to fire upon guards and police. They stormed the residence.
Liberated New Ireland
15-04-2006, 19:48
Sleeper cells, each led by a SpecOps or Spetznas trooper, that had formed throughout the city were activated. Ten thousand people gathered in less than an hour. They marched to the capital building.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 20:07
"Herr Emperor, this is Captain Richard Jacobs of the Spetznaz Expenditionary Team," He announced from a field radio. "We have incited revolts throughout the city as ordered by New Ireland's Officers. We are now proceeding to storm the Capitol Building."

"Good work Captain, continue with the operation." The Emperor replied.

"Will do sir, sit-rep out."
Gelfland
15-04-2006, 21:06
a massive explosion tears through a mosque in a downtown area of the capital city shortly after the call to morning prayers. eyewitness accounts varied, but several report seeing a delivery van parked near the mosque shortly before the blast.
Snake Eaters
15-04-2006, 21:22
Snake Eaters publicly condemns this attack on the mosque, as well as the revolts being staged by members of special operations units in the nation of Chitzeland. This is not the way to solve the dispute that has occured over the Liberty Pamphlet.

We also send our hopes for the safe recovery of Pope Rolland. He was merely preaching for forgivness and understanding, and the attempt on his life was one of desperation.

OOC: Not up to my usual standards, but I'm tired.
Wanderjar
15-04-2006, 21:24
After Emperor Baker recieved news of the blast minutes later, he radioed Captain Jacobs.

"Captain! What the hell is going on over there?"
"Herr Emperor, I have am unsure. As i am not in that region of the city, i cannot give you a description of the scene, but reports i have been made aware of state a delivery truck was in the area. Wait," Jacobs fired three rounds from his Colt 1911 pistol into a Citzeland guard who charged him and his radio operator. The guard collapsed and Jacobs returned to speaking. "This leads me to believe that either the Government, or a rogue element of anti-Islamic citizens are attempting to lash out before we end this. Things are going to be real bad until we usurp power from Copeland."

"Okay Captain. End this!" Baker shouted over the radio in his Breifing room. "And hurry!"
Snake Eaters
15-04-2006, 22:21
OOC: I'm going to have to go away until Tuesday, so I'll ask you nicely to slow things down a bit so I can still be involved. Thank you...
Chitzeland
15-04-2006, 22:41
(OOC: I've created a thread about the revolution here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477731), since there is very little relevance to the Liberty Pamphlets anymore.)

Edit: bad link
Hurtful Thoughts
16-04-2006, 03:08
Telegram Start

To: Chitzeland
From: PROHT

PROHT shall offer a one time deal.

Allow PROHT FAP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10355287#post10355287)s (Foriegn Aid Packages; a form of relief aid in the event of a 'problem') to march through your captal to restore order.

The bill shall be decided upon after the mess Chitzeland is in is resolved.

Telegram End
Wanderjar
16-04-2006, 03:10
Telegram Start

To: Chitzeland
From: PROHT

PROHT shall offer a one time deal.

Allow PROHT FAP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10355287#post10355287)s (Foriegn Aid Packages; a form of relief aid in the event of a 'problem') to march through your captal to restore order.

The bill shall be decided upon after the mess Chitzeland is in is resolved.

Telegram End

OOC: Go to the Revolt! Revolution! thread if you would be so kind, that is the thread we use now. :)
Chitzeland
16-04-2006, 03:33
Telegram Start

To: Chitzeland
From: PROHT

PROHT shall offer a one time deal.

Allow PROHT FAP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10355287#post10355287)s (Foriegn Aid Packages; a form of relief aid in the event of a 'problem') to march through your captal to restore order.

The bill shall be decided upon after the mess Chitzeland is in is resolved.

Telegram End
---Message from the Revolutionary Directorship---
To: PROHT
Subject: Your offer of FAPs

Although we are sure we can use aid, you will probably encounter great hostility in the capital. We are actually not aware of the conditions in the capital, so we can not say whether or not they need aid there. We give you permission to try and distribute aid and agree to pay you for your efforts after this conflict is over, but we can not assure you that you will have a warm welcome. If you need airport facilities, you are welcome to fly in to airports in any of our western cities. They are secure for the most part.

Sincerely, The Revolutionary Directorship:
Sen. Rev. Dir. Admiral Thomas Amherst
Sen. Rev. Dir. General Osvaldo Laguardia
Rev. Dir. Field Marshal Ivan Smith
Rev. Dir. Vice Admiral Eugene Pritchard
Rev. Dir. General Jason Kinbo
Rev. Dir. Field Marshal Richard Jackson
Rev. Dir. General John Taylor
Rev. Dir. General Melvin Hinson
Rev. Dir. Field Marshal Henry Andolphe
Rev. Dir. General Kenneth Christianson
Rev. Dir. General Travis Norris
Hurtful Thoughts
17-04-2006, 01:35
OOC: Wher do I RP riot suppression?

IC:
A pair of MPP-2 amphibious seaplanes came in for a hot and heavy landing. Each was loaded with a platoon of PROHT Marines to secure a nearby field.

Meanwhile a pair of civillian cargo ships and a passenger steamer made best speed to Chitzland. The cargo ships had been loaded with armoured cars, trucks, and mortars, and horses. The passenger liner held, well, Marines.

Also making way was a Class A-rigid troop transport (Airship). And two Class B-Limp Patrol Airships.
Wanderjar
17-04-2006, 02:10
OOC: Wher do I RP riot suppression?

IC:
A pair of MPP-2 amphibious seaplanes came in for a hot and heavy landing. Each was loaded with a platoon of PROHT Marines to secure a nearby field.

Meanwhile a pair of civillian cargo ships and a passenger steamer made best speed to Chitzland. The cargo ships had been loaded with armoured cars, trucks, and mortars, and horses. The passenger liner held, well, Marines.

Also making way was a Class A-rigid troop transport (Airship). And two Class B-Limp Patrol Airships.

You really need to go to the new thread. I think ints on the previous page. A lot has happened since this thread ended and the new one opened up...
Liberated New Ireland
17-04-2006, 03:03
OOC: Post in the Revolt and Revolution thread.
Hurtful Thoughts
17-04-2006, 03:03
OOC:
Ah crap, looks like you took the bludgeon while I took the scalpel. And now I'm stuck helping them, Thank You!

IC:
Off the coasts of Elfzar, Chitzland
The MPP-2 recieves warning that potential outside hostilities may arise soon. And hasd the troops disembark from the planes double time as one took off on a coastal patrol, while the other refueled.
Wanderjar
17-04-2006, 03:04
Official Imperial Communique of the Empire of Kravania

From: The Empire of Kravania

To: The People's Democratic Republic of Chitzland

To President Copeland of the PDR of Chitzland

The Empire of Kravania is in full knowledge of what your deranged government and it's vile and genocidal policy is, nothing short of launching a Christian fundamentalist war of terror and barbarity on the nations of this world.

You have more or less declared a state of war against many nations without any provocation, for the only provocation you need to justify your evil plans are that other people choose to worship another religion and thus doe not fit your insane world view.

By seeking to re-create the Christian Crusades of the Middle Ages under the cover of a anti-terrorist campaign you will only ever acheive a world war which will destroy your nation and many others.

The Empire is totally opposed to all terrorism, be they religious or secular in nature.

However, the Empire can see that your illigetimate and illegal government is in itself a terrorist entity and thus should be removed and you, President Copeland are a terrorist leader and thus you should only face the destiny you so deserve, that of the firing squad.

The Empire will not tolerate the actions of a lunatic tyrant like yourself as a cause for yet more global instability and conflict.

The Empire values it's own security and its serene peace and thus as your nation and your government is a threat to such a peace, the Empire will now take action to stop you and your evil in it's tracks.

The Empire of Kravania declares a state of total war against the People's Democratic Republic of Chitzland.

The Empire shall invade your nation and remove your government from power and have you, Mr. Copeland and your entire government put on trail for international terrorism and if found guilty you and your cabinet will face the death penalty.

The Empire shall then request that other nations alongside our great and everlasting Empire form a occupational administration that will oversee the reconstruction of Chitzland and have installed a responsible, secure and stable government in Chitzland.

There cannot be peace for the Empire has seen your lunatic terrorist government's refusal to hold decent and civil mannered diplomacy with other nations and your government has now escalated the conflict with your government forces killing innocent Chitzlandi civilians outside your Congress building and your government's attempted assasination of the Pope.

Given that your government only understands the way of the gun and the spilling of blood, so be it. The Empire shall now have the bullets heading towards you Mr. Copeland and your agents and now your blood is the blood that shall flood the ground of Chitzland.

Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Kravania

Lord Micheal Duchet


Emperor of the Empire of Kravania

HRH Emperor Constantine I


Go to the other thread: Revolts and Revolution!
thats where the second part of this RP is being held. Theres a link around here somewhere, try page 9-10.
Hurtful Thoughts
17-04-2006, 03:15
Link on page 12.

Post 168
Liberated New Ireland
17-04-2006, 03:35
PoST ON THE OTHER THREAD!!!
The Zombie Alliance
17-04-2006, 03:36
Your phamplet it hilarious, dude! Unfortunatly it is way to long to be responsibly sigged.
Wanderjar
17-04-2006, 03:38
With Emperor Constantine I declaration of war against Chitzland, the Kravanian Empire was now ready to delpoy the first war fleet that would be the first of many to destroy the Chitzlandi armed forces and invade Chitzland and remove it's regime from power.

Naval Force:

25 CVN 71 Aircraft Carriers
80 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
110 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
150 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
200 Virginia Class Attack Submarines
10,000 Wasp Class Naval Transport Ships

Army Force:

800,000 Imperial Army
300,000 Imperial Guard
6,000 Leopard 2-A6 MBTs
6,000 M1-A2 Abram MBTs
10,000 M113 APCs
10,000 BMP-3 APCs
50,000 Transport Trucks
5,000 155mm Artillery Guns
10,000 120mm Artillery Guns
50,000 105mm Mortars
8,000 Mobile AA Systems
4,000 Patriot Anti-Missile Systems
1,000 Mobile Tomahawk Cruise Missile Systems
5,000 Mobile Scud-C Cruise Missile Systems

Air Force:

1,000 F-18 Jet Fighters
1,000 F-22 Jet Fighters
600 F-35 Jet Fighters
1,000 MIG-33 Jet Fighters
1,000 MIG-29 Jet Fighters
400 F-117 Stealth Jet Fighters
300 B-52 Bomber Aircraft
250 B-2 Stealth Bomber Aircraft
3,000 Transport Aircraft
4,000 AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters
4,000 AH-1 Attack Helicopters
4,000 Mi-24 Attack Helicopters
6,000 Mi-8 Transport Helicopters

this is excellant! use this in the current thread we're using. Read whats going on, and then help us! We're preparing to engage in a large battle, and these forces will be critical. The Coalition needs as many men as it can get for the coming battle. (OOC: but this wont start until tommorrow, you have until then to join me in the Chitzeland city of Accen and fortify it along side the rest of the Coalition Forces. Heres a link to the thread we're using now:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477731

I highly recommend you read as much of this as you can. It gets a bit confusing unless you do, and we will need your cooperation. Thanks!)