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From Multiland Department of Environmental and Scientific Affairs.

Multiland Renewable Energy Proposal.

It is estimated that around 50% of Multiland’s energy (for electricity etc.) could be produced by solar power. This leaves 50% to be accounted for by other means.

To account for the 50%, a renewable source is required that will not pose a threat to wildlife.

Wave power will be used for some of the energy – the turbine and generator will be placed high enough above the sea so that waves will not enter into them, but still low enough to gain sufficient power from the air that has been forced into them from the waves. We estimate that this will produce approximately 10% of our energy, leaving us with a 40% gap to fill.

To fill this gap, we are proposing one of the following:


Wind turbines encased in special material. Air will be able to enter from the sides only. Due to this, there is much less of a threat to wildlife.

Continue using non-renewable energy, though the amount of usage would be reduced by 40% due to the solar power and the wave power.

Form an agreement with a hotter country to install solar panels in that country. The panels would then be connected to the Multiland National Power station in the same way as telephone lines.


The latter is the most acceptable, however, it must be noted that no country has agreed to this yet and that any country that is likely to agree may charge a high amount of money for this. Due to the latter, it would be advisable to come to some kind of agreement which also benefits the country involved, therefore potentially reducing (or even eliminating, if the benefits to the other country are great enough) the cost.

Would any country like to step forward? What would be your price and what would you require in return?

Pythogria has an excess of electricity from it's solar power project. We'l lgladly sell you 500,000 megawatts for $1 Billion a month.

Pythogria has an excess of electricity from it's solar power project. We'l lgladly sell you 500,000 megawatts for $1 Billion a month.

The Multiland Department of Environmental and Scientific Affairs (MDESA) appreciate your kind offer, however, this would not be financially viable.

We would kindly request that you consider offering a lower fee, or if this is not possible, is there something that Multiland could provide in return that would eliminate (or significantly reduce) the fee?

A. Dude, MDESA.

The Multiland Department of Environmental and Scientific Affairs (MDESA) appreciate your kind offer, however, this would not be financially viable.

We would kindly request that you consider offering a lower fee, or if this is not possible, is there something that Multiland could provide in return that would eliminate (or significantly reduce) the fee?

Well, we could provide it for $500 million a month. Would that work?

Well, we could provide it for $500 million a month. Would that work?

The MDESA will discuss your kind discount and get back to you tomorrow.

A. Person, MDESA

We shall also give you give you 500,000 Megawatts for a price of $500 a month.

Sir Jacob Macomber, Minister of Energy

Pythogria, after detailed discussion, we are unable to accept your offer.

Findan, your offer looks very appealing. However, would it be at all possible to arrange some discount if we were able to assist you with something taht you require?

We currently have a low crime rate due to our progressive social policies and would be happy to share them with you and work together with you.

We would also be happy to come to some arrangement over whatever else you can provide if you are able to offer a discount to Multiland.

We ask for a discount of $150, bringing the total cost down to $350 dollars a month.

Our current exchange rate is 4.3743 muls = $1 (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Multiland)

A. Person, MDESA

We may have some better alternatives if you have access to the ocean. We can offer 1 Megawatt wave power stations. These cost $4 million each. They consist of multiple underwater wave energy turbines. Where you have strong currents these can be a better investment than wind. They must be maintained underwater which requires some doing. They are very similar in appearance to wind turbines but they aren't visible from shore and do not interfere with airborn wildlife.

We have the capacity to build offshore wind barges to your specifications. These will cost $3 million per megawatt.

To further expand your energy base, we can also offer geothermal turbine generators. These are fixed installation where there is ready access to steam. It costs $5 million dollars for a 1 megawatt station.

If you are truly concerned about the environment another option is available, it is called a biorefinery-- this produces ethanol, methanol, or biodiesel, nontoxic industrial chemicals made from plant feedstocks, bioplastics and biopolymers. Everything that an oil plant would produce using biomass feedstocks. A basic one will cost you $6 million dollars to build. It will give you approximately 1 megawatt equivalent of ethanol, plus a wide variety of advanced ecologically safe materials.

We may have some better alternatives if you have access to the ocean. We can offer 1 Megawatt wave power stations. These cost $4 million each. They consist of multiple underwater wave energy turbines. Where you have strong currents these can be a better investment than wind. They must be maintained underwater which requires some doing. They are very similar in appearance to wind turbines but they aren't visible from shore and do not interfere with airborn wildlife.

We have the capacity to build offshore wind barges to your specifications. These will cost $3 million per megawatt.

To further expand your energy base, we can also offer geothermal turbine generators. These are fixed installation where there is ready access to steam. It costs $5 million dollars for a 1 megawatt station.

If you are truly concerned about the environment another option is available, it is called a biorefinery-- this produces ethanol, methanol, or biodiesel, nontoxic industrial chemicals made from plant feedstocks, bioplastics and biopolymers. Everything that an oil plant would produce using biomass feedstocks. A basic one will cost you $6 million dollars to build. It will give you approximately 1 megawatt equivalent of ethanol, plus a wide variety of advanced ecologically safe materials.

Commonalitarianism, we appreciate your reply. We have already considered using, and intend to use, wave energy. The turbines would be above water, using the air forced into them (by the waves) to create power. Unfortunately, the amount of power is dependant on the waves, which means that sometimes no energy will be produced, hence our conservative estimate of this type of energy providing 10% of Multiland's power requirements. We do not want to use underwater turbines due to the threat posed to animals.

Multiland is a vegan country (with some vegetarian exceptions in very limited circumstances) that cares passionately about animals. For this reason, the wind barges are of no use, though we appreciate the offer.

Whilst you may have the sufficent types of rocks available for us to use for geothermal energy, there is a safety concern over dangerous gases and minerals that may be produced. In addition, a geothermal site can run out of steam.

Biomass unfortunately still contributes to pollution - as the fuel is burned, it makes greenhouse gases. In addition, our research (though this currently needs to be confirmed) indicates that methanol is toxic and that Ethanol has the potential to increase the growth of Acinetobacter baumannii, a bacterium responsible for pneumonia, meningitis and urinary tract infections.

We do, however, appreciate your kind offer.

We are currently awaiting a reply from Findan

A. Person, MDESA

We accept your offer.

Sir Jacob Macomber, Minister of Energy

Excellent, thank you Findan.

How would the power be supplied to us? Would we be able to link it directly from your nation, and if so, in what way - would we be installing solar panels and linking them up to Multiland as originally suggested, or do you have something else in mind?

A. Person, MDESA,
Sum Won, Office of International Affairs,
John Nee, Depertment of Engineering
Bob Bing-about, Multiland National Power (part of the Department for Engineering)

OOC: *bump* Findan :)

We can also build 1 MW OTEC-- Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion barges. They would cost $3 million each. If you are in a warmer coastal area this would function well. We use them extensively near our cities. We have a closed cycle OTEC system that uses a safe gaseous substance. Indira (India) plans to build 180 such barges in the future. http://www.ioes.saga-u.ac.jp/english/about-india-otec_e.html

Excellent, thank you Findan.

How would the power be supplied to us? Would we be able to link it directly from your nation, and if so, in what way - would we be installing solar panels and linking them up to Multiland as originally suggested, or do you have something else in mind?

A. Person, MDESA,
Sum Won, Office of International Affairs,
John Nee, Depertment of Engineering
Bob Bing-about, Multiland National Power (part of the Department for Engineering)


This will be fine.

Dennis Martinez, Underminister for Energy Sharing

After hearing your situation our leader the great General Batula has purposed this idea. We have a great desert in the west that is very sparsley populated. We could allow your country to set up your solar panels there and run wire from our country to yours. We would also offer a portion of our police force to help secure your intrests.

What would we require? We think that 25% of the energy collected could be rerouted for our own use in our energy reserves. As you may be aware Nujala has just come out of grips of Civil War and our medical facilities have been rendered useless, if you could send aid to help rebuild and train new doctors we could see signing a treaty that would allow you to have these panels in our lands for the next seventy five years. After that renewal contracts can be discussed.

We await your reply.

Yinta Barlow
Secretary of Energy

After hearing your situation our leader the great General Batula has purposed this idea. We have a great desert in the west that is very sparsley populated. We could allow your country to set up your solar panels there and run wire from our country to yours. We would also offer a portion of our police force to help secure your intrests.

What would we require? We think that 25% of the energy collected could be rerouted for our own use in our energy reserves. As you may be aware Nujala has just come out of grips of Civil War and our medical facilities have been rendered useless, if you could send aid to help rebuild and train new doctors we could see signing a treaty that would allow you to have these panels in our lands for the next seventy five years. After that renewal contracts can be discussed.

We await your reply.

Yinta Barlow
Secretary of Energy

From the Multiland Leader:

The Department of Environmental and Scientific Affairs has contacted me. There is no way I'm putting our own requirements before the urgent needs of your nation.

With your permission, I would like to send emergency supplies immediately. We would also like to transfer some case via WestEastern Union if this will assist - just tell me how much you need.

I will also send doctors, some of whom will train doctors in your nation.

I will do all of this without wanting reward. We await your permission.

PJ, Multiland Leader

We do thank you offer but the people of Nujala are not beggers. We work hard for what we have. We are willing to negotiate for your great skill but we will not take them. It is not our way.


General Tungo Batula

We do thank you offer but the people of Nujala are not beggers. We work hard for what we have. We are willing to negotiate for your great skill but we will not take them. It is not our way.


General Tungo Batula

Whilst we feel it is not begging to accept generosity from others when it is offerred (rather than asking for that generosity - after all, you didn't beg for any generosity, it was just offerred to you in the same way a free product may be offerred to you in a store), we understand.

We will be happy to set up solar panels in your desert and provide you with 25% of it's power and whatever other aid you require, however, we would urge you to allow us send in aid immediately for the benefit of your citizens, before we set up the solar panels.

Multiland Leader

Very well I will send one of my Foriegn Minsters to handle the details. Until then our borders are open for your medical staff and aid. Nujala is truley blessed to have such allies.


General Tungo Batula

Very well I will send one of my Foriegn Minsters to handle the details. Until then our borders are open for your medical staff and aid. Nujala is truley blessed to have such allies.


General Tungo Batula

Nujala, to prevent any further possible misperceptions, we must make it clear that we are not an ally. We would usually help a nation that needed assistance regardless of our relationship with that nation.

We are glad to help you and after carrying out some research in regards to your nation, would most likely be happy to become allies with you

Multiland Leader