NationStates Jolt Archive


Toy Soldiers off to War!(development thread, Infantry systems)

Mini Miehm
08-04-2006, 02:45
It seems everyone is doing this now, so I might as well record my advances to cut bitching.

Project Wild Thing:

Recently acquired by the Miehmish, there were many new, and slightly less than willing recruits. Much as the Space Marines and Spaven epitomized combat skill for so long, now would a new weapon terrorize all that stood before them. Doomhammers. All the deadly skill and intelligence of the Space Marines, with the unbridled power and ferocity of the Ork. When complete there will be several chapters of Doomhammers, able to equal a Dreadnought in battle with ease. They were not so dangerous as TRUE Space Marines, due to their still rather limited intelligence, but they would be more numerous, and more powerful. And with the assistance of Human officers, they might even be equal in tactical engagements.
Naggeroth
08-04-2006, 03:13
[OOC: Right...time to screw this idea, NOW, before it becomes a problem.

1) Explain to me HOW you got your hands on the Space Marine Organ Implants? How did you get your hands on Gene Seed, Procedures to create the new Marine and the people to simply create the New Gene Seed?

2) Explain to me how, with no previous mention of your knowledge of Space Marine creation abilities, with no previous chapters, no Previous Marines at all, did you create your first batch of Marines an ENTIRELY new type, editing the Gene Seed to do something that the Emperor Couldn't do, because if he could Marines would have been better, how are you assured its going to work first try?

Honestly Miehm, this is just plain trying to make yourself stronger, honestly have no mention of any knowledge of Marines and yet now you bring this out? The Marine is YEARS of Work, It takes YEARS to create a chapter, and you would need at least a chapter before you could start making hybrids, unless you have something else. Chron has never shared his Marine tech with you, so tell us WHERE you got it, and how your going to create a "Better" Version of Space Marines, on your first try no less.]
Franberry
08-04-2006, 03:32
[OOC: Right...time to screw this idea, NOW, before it becomes a problem.

1) Explain to me HOW you got your hands on the Space Marine Organ Implants? How did you get your hands on Gene Seed, Procedures to create the new Marine and the people to simply create the New Gene Seed?

2) Explain to me how, with no previous mention of your knowledge of Space Marine creation abilities, with no previous chapters, no Previous Marines at all, did you create your first batch of Marines an ENTIRELY new type, editing the Gene Seed to do something that the Emperor Couldn't do, because if he could Marines would have been better, how are you assured its going to work first try?

Honestly Miehm, this is just plain trying to make yourself stronger, honestly have no mention of any knowledge of Marines and yet now you bring this out? The Marine is YEARS of Work, It takes YEARS to create a chapter, and you would need at least a chapter before you could start making hybrids, unless you have something else. Chron has never shared his Marine tech with you, so tell us WHERE you got it, and how your going to create a "Better" Version of Space Marines, on your first try no less.]
OOC: Everyone mods, cuz everyone makes stuff up. He dosent have to get his tech from anyone. There are lots of people who rip off Star Wars, yet this guy isent allowed to rip off Warhammer?
Amazonian Beasts
08-04-2006, 03:34
OOC: I think he got the Orks from the Toophian market, as well...
Tannelorn
08-04-2006, 03:55
ooc actually he has had chaos space marines for some time. He isnt making true SM, but chaos marines. I know i am going to be facing a brigade or so in battle, i accept this because he has had access to the warp,thanks to Chronosia and others. He learned it. His nation is very much like the old Kilrathi empire. He gains things from people he defeated, or stolen from other allies and enemies. I noticed this through his RP. His good stuff tends to come from conquest. Nothing wrong with it, the fact that he is developing on a new technology he just gained isnt so bad. However some of the canon is needed to understand how the Chaos marines reproduce.

They create gene seed in the same way as SM, in cultures taken from the gene seed of fallen warriors. This gene seed is corrupted..and very dangerous. Its impossible to control chaos unless you are chaos, and then its not control.


However this project would take a great deal of time. The only reason my own projects take so short time, is because i go off technology i have already developed, and improve on it. The Tanhausser cannon project is going to take alot more time then the Ubeck accelerator did.

So mini, keep working on it..if you rush it make sure you note how screwed up the new guys are at first, due to a rush to produce such soldiers to conquer yet more territory. However if you take your time you will have something nasty.

He doesnt so much need the tech to make Chaos marines, as he needs the marines themselves to cooperate. And he has to ask nice. Because his marines will gleefully turn on him and devastate his lands if he doesnt. Unless of course his emperor is say, deposed by the Chaos Warmaster..Or deposes him.
Mini Miehm
10-04-2006, 20:00
ooc actually he has had chaos space marines for some time. He isnt making true SM, but chaos marines. I know i am going to be facing a brigade or so in battle, i accept this because he has had access to the warp,thanks to Chronosia and others. He learned it. His nation is very much like the old Kilrathi empire. He gains things from people he defeated, or stolen from other allies and enemies. I noticed this through his RP. His good stuff tends to come from conquest. Nothing wrong with it, the fact that he is developing on a new technology he just gained isnt so bad. However some of the canon is needed to understand how the Chaos marines reproduce.

They create gene seed in the same way as SM, in cultures taken from the gene seed of fallen warriors. This gene seed is corrupted..and very dangerous. Its impossible to control chaos unless you are chaos, and then its not control.


However this project would take a great deal of time. The only reason my own projects take so short time, is because i go off technology i have already developed, and improve on it. The Tanhausser cannon project is going to take alot more time then the Ubeck accelerator did.

So mini, keep working on it..if you rush it make sure you note how screwed up the new guys are at first, due to a rush to produce such soldiers to conquer yet more territory. However if you take your time you will have something nasty.

He doesnt so much need the tech to make Chaos marines, as he needs the marines themselves to cooperate. And he has to ask nice. Because his marines will gleefully turn on him and devastate his lands if he doesnt. Unless of course his emperor is say, deposed by the Chaos Warmaster..Or deposes him.

Danke Schoene Tannelorn. The fact that I intend to have MAYBE 1 in 10 survive the proccess the first time around gives an idea of exactly how messy this is going to be.

Project Wild Thing:

Early results promising. Losses so far minimal, only 100 dead. Unfortunately results with the accepting patients have been minimal. Wether or not any will actually survive the proccess remains unknown. More subjects will have to be allocated to this project before further testing can occur.
Mini Miehm
11-04-2006, 15:32
Project Wild Thing:

Losses now 70% Original subjects all dead, secondary subjects dieing. Rejection issues are primary concern. The Orkish physiology needs to either be modified, or the proccess must be changed. No solution presents itself. Requesting tertiary subjects, double original numbers of Orks. Hopefully having one success will give us some clue as to what to look for.
Mini Miehm
13-04-2006, 00:57
Project Wild Thing:

A single successful Doomhammer has been created. All of the other 400 trials so far have been failures. We are not certain WHY this particular specimen was a success. Yet. We are hoping that testing via nanobots and other non-invasive procedures, as well as genetic material and blood samples will be sufficient. The remainder of the Orks are being allowed to populate a planet, and we will be forced to wait for the next generation before we continue with the trials, unless a concrete discovery presents itself.
Mini Miehm
13-04-2006, 22:02
Project Wild Thing:

The single suvivor, "Orgrim", has been subjected to a battery of tests, and compared to the genetic material of several of the "failures" as well as several non-augmented individuals. In every case there was exactly one genetic deviation. How to incorporate this is a question we have not yet answered, but this may very well become the Primarch of the Doomhammers. His Geneseed will be necessary to create further Doomhammers. We are not yet sure how, if at all, this will deviate from the original proccess, but it may become an interesting proposition to create more if there are further complications. We have taken a sample of ten from the remaining population and we are proceeding with the next phase of testing.