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The Kedalfax office of foreign affairs, in association with The Digital Network, is proud to announce the completion of the International Extradition Treaty. The treaty is an agreement made in an attempt to further justice, even across international boundries.
The treaty may be found here: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/IET
If your nation agrees to the terms of the treaty, it may sign. It is open to UN and non-UN members alike.

If you have any questions, you may post here, on the talk page, or telegram me.

Thank you for your time,
Kedalfax (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Kedalfax) Secretary of the Exterior, Pauul J. James-Martin

OOC PS: I'd appreciate it if you signed the wiki page yourself, but if you can't, don't know how, or don't want to, I can do it for you.

The President of the Secularist Kingdom of Maraque intends to sign this treaty as soon as possible.

Sincerely,
Foreign Affairs Minister

The nation of Bioligin will have to refrain from signing this treaty, as we serve as a haven for those who are not wanted else where. This is why we were founded, this is why what we will continue.

Office 31
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Druid Province, Armed Holy Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu



TO: Kedalfax
FROM: Bureau of Justice, Foriegn Affairs Office
SUBJECT: Signing of International Extradition Treaty



Greetings. Asgarnieu wishes to sign the International Extradition Treaty immediatley. Few nations recognize the importance of Justice these days, but you are an exception. We thank you, and will sign as soon as possible.



Respectfully,

Marcus G. Vaughn, II
Senior Justice Officer
Armed Holy Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

OOC: I would say that this is an infringement on national sovereignty and all that junk, but it only effects those that sign... so Ill go with the last option.

OOC: Like Red Tide, I'd post one of my usual spiels about national sovreignty, right to enforce your own laws, etc. but it doesn't apply to anybody except those who want it to, so as Purina's bitch, I vote the last option.

The republic of Ustia agrees with the treaty and will also sign

TO: Kedalfax
FROM: Nerobi Narabbian Foreign Affairs Minister, Karatus Inferious
SUBJECT: Signing of the International Extradition Treaty

We agree to the terms of the treaty and would be honored to be a part of this pact as we Nerobi Narabbians are always trying to form and join international alliances and trade arraignments. We are presently a part of a larger body, the Acerbus Concordia, and so will bring the entire empire under this Treaty. In addition to Nerobi Narabba the members include: Untera, Ohrder, Lemanruss, and Unparadise. We are pleased to join this lawful alliance. Good day.

OOC: Blech, no torture or any of that sort...can't say I agree. Seeing how the last option seems popular, I'll go there.

Does Meow mix actually deliver?
(bump, of sorts)

Not having many nations kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

The City of Oka, Royal Palace,
#01 1st Ave.
Emperss Kinimoto, and the Royal House


THE EMPIRE OF MAGIC SORCERY


We will accept the treaty on a trial basis. We will closely examin the treaty over a period of 90 [NS] days (9 RL) If we find the treaty fair, unbaised, and respectful of our national soverignty, we will adopt in full.
And with your permission present this treaty to the League of Nations, for possible adoption.

The nation of Eonopolis scoffs at the treaty, and officially sanctions all signatory nations.

Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano

And with your permission present this treaty to the League of Nations, for possible adoption.

Permission is granted, as long as you credit me.

M.S. Tells Enopolis not to worry, because everyone hates the facists nation anyway

The nation of Eonopolis scoffs at the treaty, and officially sanctions all signatory nations.

Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Sorry I didn't say this in the last post, but I got to scoffs and figured that the rest wasn't worth reading. Look, this treaty is not for everyone. In case I haven't made this clear, you are not affected by it unless you sign it. It's not like one of those UN resolutions that 49% of the nations vote against, but you still have to follow. This is entirely voluntary. There is no need to sanction anybody. However, I had not even heard of you until now, so I really don't care.

Who cares about a nation that sounds like Kleenex?

Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano

Keh dahl fax. kleen ex
3 sylables vs. 2
L at the end of the second sylable vs. l at the bigining of the first.
I'm sorry, but just because both start with k, end with x, and have an l, doesn't mean they sound alike.

Who cares about a nation that sounds EXACTLY like a wine store (http://www.enopolis.net/)?

And also, I would appreciate if this thread didn't turn into a Dissathon. If you want to be nasty about this, go to a different thread.

I poop on your command of the English language.

Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano

The STHD respectfully declines

The Government of Mondoth is interested in this treaty, however we do have some reservations to be addressed before we sign.
First, Mondothian law includes several 'Refugee Acts' that give provisions for giving foreign nationals, who in some cases might be considered criminals by their home nation, immediate citizenship with all rights and priveldgies thereof. We are wish to know whether this treaty would require us to extradite a erson granted citizenship under one of these Refugee Acts.
We also wish to know if we would be required to extradite persons to nations we are currently at war with. And Finally, we wish to know whether we would be required to extradite foreign defectors to our nation, in or out of war.
Thank you.

The Government of Mondoth is interested in this treaty, however we do have some reservations to be addressed before we sign.
First, Mondothian law includes several 'Refugee Acts' that give provisions for giving foreign nationals, who in some cases might be considered criminals by their home nation, immediate citizenship with all rights and priveldgies thereof. We are wish to know whether this treaty would require us to extradite a erson granted citizenship under one of these Refugee Acts. We also wish to know if we would be required to extradite persons to nations we are currently at war with. And Finally, we wish to know whether we would be required to extradite foreign defectors to our nation, in or out of war.
Thank you.
Part 1: Yes, I am pretty sure it would, but only if the refugee committed the crime in another member language.
Part 2: As I look this over, I notice that I had not mentioned that. I think that you would, but I also think that would be a good ammendment. Remember that you can't vote on an ammendment without being a member.
Part 3: You would not be forced to take people in. If you wanted to try them for these crimes, you would be allowed to, but if you didn't, you wouldn't have to.


As to you, Eonopolis, I would like to respectfully ask that you no longer post in this thread. You have made the point quite well that you do not like the treaty, so no more further contributions are nececcary. And by the way, while I am no English major, my command of the English language is quite good, and it is more than likely that any error you may see is probably a typo, as my command of typing is nowhere near what I would like it to be.

Ammendment 1: Extradition Durring Time of War
If two signing nations are at war over issues not relating to the treaty, the treatment of criminals, or the judgement of guilt, the nations may refuse extradition of criminals to the warring nation. If a nation is beleived to be violating the treaty, including statements on the judging and treating of criminals, the nation can be suggested for ejection by placing a resolution on the talk page.

AFter due consideration, The Mondothian People have decided not to sign this treaty. Though we believe strongly in justice persuing criminals over national boundaries and will endeavor to cooperate with the signatories of this treaty in all possible instances, we cannot in good concience agree to extradite any person falling under the protection of the Refugee acts as these people havebeen denied rights as human beings in their home nation and have come to Mondoth in order to escape that persecution. While we do not believe any member of this treaty can or will persecute its people in any way that would make them elgible for Refugee ac protection, the lack of any prequisites in this regard for entering ito this pact is a concern that we cannot ignore.

Alright, that's fine. Is anyone going to vote on that ammendment?

The PDSRA would like to sign and support this treaty, but sadly we cannot do so, due to a point of detail. Any defendent extradited to Ariddia would not be tried by a jury of his or her peers, because that is not how our judiciary works (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ariddian_government_and_judiciary#The_Judiciary) (see mainly the third paragraph).

Louis Jacobson,
Secretary for External Affairs, PDSRA

Well that's too bad.

Just a reminder: If your nation has an NSWiki page, add {{Template:IET}} to the page, prefferably at the top.

Why am I the only one who voted? Come ON! We need PROGRESS! And MORE SIGNERS!

From the Desk of the Chief Governor - Motherland of Anagonia
To: Treaty people
From: Chief Governor Dunan Ruu

We would gladly sign this treaty, and would love to be a part of a new beginning for Justice and Unity throughout the world.

HOWEVER, we do wish to sign the Extradition treaty, as we do not have, ourselves, a death penalty.

Thank you.

OOC:

Might as well do the NSWiki thing for me, I'm not good at it! gah..

So you are signing? Will you be waiving the 103 rights? (The right to refuse extradition if death peanalty might be administered)

By a vote of the Parliament of the Imperial Land of Findan, May 10, 1336 After the Founding, The Imperial Land of Findan Hereby ratifies the International Extradition Treaty.

Emperor Samuel III

Prime Minister Count Sir David Thaxton

Foreign Minister Baron Sir Charles Hassahoff

Justice Minister Dame Hilary Harrington

Chief Justice Sir James Thesin, Chief Justice of the Imperial High Court

Yes, we will.

Cool. Anybody else? Maybe someone wants to vote on the ammendment?

Ammendment went through. By the way. Thought y'all should know.