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United Islamic Republic- E20 (Closed)

Warta Endor
02-04-2006, 19:28
Overview of the Republic

Official Name: The United Islamic Republic
Short Names: The UIR, UIR
Territory: Modern Day Iran and Afghanistan save a small portion in the South East.
Government: Republic, Slightly a Theocracy

Population: Roughly 30 million

Head of State(s)
Ayatollah Seyyed Ruhollah Khomeini (Caliph)
Vice (???) Ayatollah Mohammed Zahir Shah (Responsable for Afghanistan)
Vice Ayatollah Mirza Kuchak Khan (Responsable for Iran)

Political:

Allies:
All SCT nations

Very Friendly:
France

Friendly:
USA, Egypt, Syria, Scandinavian Union, Remaining Nations

Weary:
None

Extremely Cautious:
None

At War:
None

Short History:

After belonging to the Middle Eastern Union (Iran) or falling under USSR influence (Afghanistan) for nearly half a century, both countries were annexed by the Federated Asian States after the Third World War. Soon, unrest broke out after some discontent with the Federal Government. Soon, two major Independence Movements appeareed, the United Islamic Republic in the west and the Communists in the East and South. After a long and bitter war, the FAS Government was "removed" under Western Pressure after the use of Mustard Gas near Kabul. A new Government called for a referendum in which all the Republics could vote for rejoining the FAS or independence.

This Referendum was (ofcourse) succesful for the UIR and an independant Republic was born.

Recently, a final treaty in which the borders were established was signed with the FAS.

Military:
6 Mech. Inf. Divisions
3 Armored Division
2 Mech. Artillery Group
1 Mechanzied Flak
3 Flak Units
3 Mujahideen Division
8 Reserve Mujahideen Divisions
2 Parachute Brigades
4 Mountain Brigades
2 Special Forces Parachute Battalions
5 Garrison Units
1 HQ Unit

3 Mirage III’s
2 Helicopter Gun ships
2 Helicopter Transports
2 Mirage V’s
2 J35 Draken
12 Expert Pilots

2 Corvette Units
1 ASW Helicopter
3 Frigate Units

3 IRBM Units
3 Silos

Tehran: Flak Unit, Mujahideen Division, 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Armored Division, 1 Mechanized Division, 2 Mirage III, 1 HQ unit

Kabul: Flak Unit, Mujahideen Division, 1 Armored Division, 1 Mechanized Division

Bandar: Flak Unit, Mujahideen Division, 1 Mirage III

Kerman: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Mechanized Division, 1 Parachute brigade, 1 Helicopter Gunship, 1 Helicopter Transport

Yazd: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Mechanized Artillery

Kandahar: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Parachute Brigade, 1 Helicopter Gunship, 1 Helicopter Transport

Jalalabad: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Mechanized Division


Guarding UIR's Western Border: 1 Armored Division, 1 Mechanized Division, 1 Mechnized Flak, 1 Mechanized Artilery, 2 Mirage V's

Current Tech Level Level 7.5

1. Level 3+ social spending for at least 10 years (yup)
2. Has reached at least 75% of economic productivity maximum for at least 5 years (Nope)
3. Created a communications satellite network alone or be paying a portion of the cost of one. (Yup)
4. Has the ability to build nuclear power plants. (yup)
5. Has an airline and tourist industry. (Yup)

Tech Level 8

1. Level 3+ social spending for at least 10 years (yup)
2. Has reached 75% of maximum economic productivity for at least 5 years (nope)
3. Has placed a man in orbit either by itself or in conjuction with 2 other nations. (yup)
4. Has the ability to build nuclear power plants. (yup)
5. Has an airline and tourist industry. (yup)
6. Spent 5 point a year for 5 years on building an electronics industry (yup)

If I've made mistakes, or if you want to make a comment, feel free to post.
The Lightning Star
02-04-2006, 21:28
Official Statement by the Federated Asian States

In an effort to strengthen ties with the UIR, the government of the FAS notifies that it is releasing all prisoners taken during the war. Also, the FAS would like to open trade with the United Islamic Repubic (OOC: That way, I can direct my merchant fleets to trade with you, so you can get merchant points too).
Safehaven2
02-04-2006, 21:33
The Scandic Union would like to aplaud the UIR on getting its independence. We would like to inform you that in light of your independence and your support of our cause in Saudi Arabia we will be donating large sums of money to rebuild your nation(8 points, more next year). We would also like to offer to sell modern military equipment to the UIR. Perhaps, later on, an agreement could be signed to bind our two nations together as more than just friends, but partners and allies.
Koryan
02-04-2006, 21:46
The United Republics would like to meet with the Islamic Republic and discuss it's policies. We have heard of extremism in your government and did not support you in the civil war due to it. However, we wish to hear the words directly from you. Egypt does not support extremism and never will. However, if you are a true republic and have rights for minorities, we apoligize for not joining the civil war for you and offer aid if you need it.
Abbassia
03-04-2006, 13:43
The Republic of France would like establish formal diplomatic contacts with the United Republics, we hope that the recovery of the region from recent would be swift and prosperous...

We have noticed that you currently have no air capabillity, we are considering to scrap our Dassault Mystere IV fighters in favour of its newer brother, this would be a shame though, don't you think? perhaps you might make good use of them, for a negotiable price? (A low one is extremely possible)

We are also considering investment in your region aswell, but several members of parlament have, unfortunately, cast their unfounded doubts on the relative stability of the region, maybe if we put down these doubts by taking this first step of cooperation then plans can continue?

Regardless of your choice, we wish you well...
Galveston Bay
03-04-2006, 16:04
ooc
why wary of US? The CIA is funneling 6 points to you, and US led the world in condemning the FAS chemical warfare attack on Kabul, demanding a FAS pullout and independence for Persia.
Warta Endor
03-04-2006, 20:03
Official Statement by the Federated Asian States

In an effort to strengthen ties with the UIR, the government of the FAS notifies that it is releasing all prisoners taken during the war. Also, the FAS would like to open trade with the United Islamic Repubic (OOC: That way, I can direct my merchant fleets to trade with you, so you can get merchant points too).

We accept both proposals, and in return we will free the Prisoners of War we have in our hands. We also request that any Muslem who wants to move to the UIR, may move without any hindrance or harm to be done to that person and it's family.

The Scandic Union would like to aplaud the UIR on getting its independence. We would like to inform you that in light of your independence and your support of our cause in Saudi Arabia we will be donating large sums of money to rebuild your nation(8 points, more next year). We would also like to offer to sell modern military equipment to the UIR. Perhaps, later on, an agreement could be signed to bind our two nations together as more than just friends, but partners and allies.

We thank you warmly, and we will never forget the aide you've given us during our fight for freedom and now. We are in need of modern equipment, especially Aircraft.

We invite your Head of State (or his/her Representatives) to visit the UIR and see what their help has created.

The United Republics would like to meet with the Islamic Republic and discuss it's policies. We have heard of extremism in your government and did not support you in the civil war due to it. However, we wish to hear the words directly from you. Egypt does not support extremism and never will. However, if you are a true republic and have rights for minorities, we apoligize for not joining the civil war for you and offer aid if you need it.

We invite you to visit Teheran for a conference, or we can send representatives to Cairo to discuss both our views.

We assure you that we are not an extremist nation. Kurds have fought alongside Shiites, Turmens, Pashtuni and many other minority groups. Why wouldn't we give them equel rights if they've bled as any other citizen? We gladly accept your proposal of aid if you're willing to give it.

The Republic of France would like establish formal diplomatic contacts with the United Republics, we hope that the recovery of the region from recent would be swift and prosperous...

We have noticed that you currently have no air capabillity, we are considering to scrap our Dassault Mystere IV fighters in favour of its newer brother, this would be a shame though, don't you think? perhaps you might make good use of them, for a negotiable price? (A low one is extremely possible)

We are also considering investment in your region aswell, but several members of parlament have, unfortunately, cast their unfounded doubts on the relative stability of the region, maybe if we put down these doubts by taking this first step of cooperation then plans can continue?

Regardless of your choice, we wish you well...

We gladly receive your ambassador in Teheran, as we will send one to paris ourself.

We are indeed seriously lacking in Aerial ability and we seek to build an airforce. Name your price and we will buy the said plane.

We would welcome French investments in our country, and as we will struggle with all our might to maintain peace, we see no objection. We forgive those representatives in your parliament as it is their duty to question bussinesses of their government.
Warta Endor
03-04-2006, 20:06
ooc
why wary of US? The CIA is funneling 6 points to you, and US led the world in condemning the FAS chemical warfare attack on Kabul, demanding a FAS pullout and independence for Persia.

ooc. well, we haven't forgotten the blocade of the Guld by British and American ships. With wary I just mean that the UIR are just watching what course the US and GBR will take against the UIR.
Galveston Bay
03-04-2006, 20:43
ooc. well, we haven't forgotten the blocade of the Guld by British and American ships. With wary I just mean that the UIR are just watching what course the US and GBR will take against the UIR.


the US quietly informs the UIR that the blockade wasn't aimed at the UIR, but was an effort to end the war as bloodlessly as possible and points at subsequent US actions that have been in the UIR favor (see previous post)
Safehaven2
03-04-2006, 22:47
We thank you warmly, and we will never forget the aide you've given us during our fight for freedom and now. We are in need of modern equipment, especially Aircraft.

We invite your Head of State (or his/her Representatives) to visit the UIR and see what their help has created.



We would love to set up a meeting as soon as possible, our two nations have much to discuss. The president of the SU will be making a trip to the Middle east region as a whole next month and we will be sure that the UIR is visited.
The Lightning Star
04-04-2006, 00:01
We accept both proposals, and in return we will free the Prisoners of War we have in our hands. We also request that any Muslem who wants to move to the UIR, may move without any hindrance or harm to be done to that person and it's family.

Of course, anyone who wants to emigrate will not be stopped. They have few reasons too, of course, but if they want too, we shall not stop them.

OOC: This isn't a "Muslim-Hindu" split like the partitions of India were. The Muslims left India in RL because they were afraid they wouldn't have any power, and in this history the Muslims are very powerful indeed. Also, take into account the majority of the UIR is Shi'ite, and the vast majority of Pakistani citizens are Sunni's.
Elephantum
04-04-2006, 02:52
We too would like to try to establish better relations with our newest regional neighbor. During the FAS Civil War much disinformation was spread about both sides, and regrettably, much of it was untrue. The UIR we have seen has been much more tolerant and better than we feared. We would like to extend diplomatic relations, perhaps beginning with an embassy exchage (Damascus for Tehran) In addition, perhaps Crown Prince Amin could make a stop in Tehran on his way home from Beijing.
Abbassia
04-04-2006, 14:48
We gladly receive your ambassador in Teheran, as we will send one to paris ourself.

We are indeed seriously lacking in Aerial ability and we seek to build an airforce. Name your price and we will buy the said plane.

We would welcome French investments in our country, and as we will struggle with all our might to maintain peace, we see no objection. We forgive those representatives in your parliament as it is their duty to question bussinesses of their government.

Excellent! We eagerly await the arrival of your representative in Paris, as for the fighters, we are willing to consider selling them to you at the low price of 1 point for the both, which is half what they wuld originally cost.
Galveston Bay
04-04-2006, 17:00
The US pushes for formal diplomatic relations (embassy) and also pushes for getting the UIR into the UN
Warta Endor
09-04-2006, 18:42
the US quietly informs the UIR that the blockade wasn't aimed at the UIR, but was an effort to end the war as bloodlessly as possible and points at subsequent US actions that have been in the UIR favor (see previous post)

The US pushes for formal diplomatic relations (embassy) and also pushes for getting the UIR into the UN

The UIR welcomes the US Ambassador warmly, with a small ceremony and a reception by the Ayatollah.

ooc. Status Change to Friendly

We would love to set up a meeting as soon as possible, our two nations have much to discuss. The president of the SU will be making a trip to the Middle east region as a whole next month and we will be sure that the UIR is visited.

We indeed have much to discuss. We would welcome your President with respect and friendship. We once again thank you for your help in the Independance War, without you it is likely that we would still be a part of the FAS.

Of course, anyone who wants to emigrate will not be stopped. They have few reasons too, of course, but if they want too, we shall not stop them.

OOC: This isn't a "Muslim-Hindu" split like the partitions of India were. The Muslims left India in RL because they were afraid they wouldn't have any power, and in this history the Muslims are very powerful indeed. Also, take into account the majority of the UIR is Shi'ite, and the vast majority of Pakistani citizens are Sunni's.

We thank you for your consideration.

ooc. I was kinda thinking of the India-Pakistan split and the following exodus. And I'm trying to become the Major Muslem Power in the World. And what kind of effect would this have on my population? An extra 500000 or something?

We too would like to try to establish better relations with our newest regional neighbor. During the FAS Civil War much disinformation was spread about both sides, and regrettably, much of it was untrue. The UIR we have seen has been much more tolerant and better than we feared. We would like to extend diplomatic relations, perhaps beginning with an embassy exchage (Damascus for Tehran) In addition, perhaps Crown Prince Amin could make a stop in Tehran on his way home from Beijing.

We would surely welcome your ambassador! One of our Diplomats is about to leave for Damascus.

We would also welcome the Crown Prince warmly.

As neighbours, it is important to become close friends.

ooc. I saw you are working on a Nuclear Program, may I hop along? I'm planning to develop some Nuclear Powerplants etc.

Excellent! We eagerly await the arrival of your representative in Paris, as for the fighters, we are willing to consider selling them to you at the low price of 1 point for the both, which is half what they wuld originally cost.

The Representative is on it's way to Paris (ooc. Shall we continue in your thread?). We accept your offer for the sale of the planes, we thank you greatly for the cheap bargain which it is.

ooc. Can everyone who gives aid to the UIR please tell me how much he/she donates? It would help me greatly for my Building Plans for the coming year.
New Dornalia
09-04-2006, 21:18
The Empire of Korea would like to recognize and establish relations with the UIR, in the hopes of establishing peace and possible trade.
Safehaven2
10-04-2006, 01:56
OOC: Your getting 6 points from us this year. Also, we can set up a conference later.
Elephantum
10-04-2006, 02:00
On the nuclear power issue, perhaps it is best to wait a while before we work on an issue as high profile as this. While the relationship is definitely something to be improved, moving too far too fast will only anger groups in both of our nations. We also wish the UIR luck on its application to join the SCT however.

(OOC: We really do, as the SCT inches towards the Middle East, it provides a precedent if we need new powerful friend)
Abbassia
14-04-2006, 07:12
Greetings and good tidings,

We are pleased at the way our relations have prospered, we have the best hope that this shall continue.

As you know the mid-east crisis has put strain on oil prices across the globe, leading to what may be an economic recession, but we are keeping our hopes high that a solution may show itself in the future.

The only way to restore optimisim back to the global market is to try to increase the amount of oil extracted, this is why we would like to help your fair nation by building infrastructure to increase your output.

(OOC: how much did oil infrastructure cost again?)
Galveston Bay
14-04-2006, 08:08
ooc
oil infrastructure varies from country to country depending on conditons. In this case the UIR (iran in this case) has some oil production already, which can be expanded for 5 points (giving it 2 more oil points)
Abbassia
15-04-2006, 15:58
So does the UIR accept?
[NS]Parthini
15-04-2006, 21:34
The Kaiser approaches the Ayatolla about the posibility of purchasing the island of Kish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kish%2C_Iran) for the Kaiser's personal use. He tells the UIR to name its price.

He also reminds the Ayatolla that cooperation in selling the island could allow the Kaiser to convince the Reichstag to recognize the UIR and perhaps even allocate financial aid.
Abbassia
16-04-2006, 11:09
The French Government again asks for confirmation upon the offer to expand the UIR Oil infrastructure for 5 points by French Companies?
New Dornalia
16-04-2006, 19:26
SIC:

The Korean Government, hearing of France's offer (OOC if that was secret, this part will be fixed), offers points for expanding the UIR's oil infrastructure, and also throws in aid in setting up an airforce to sweeten the pot (OOC2: Mainly, offering you a Dassault Mirage jet unit and a unit of pilots, considering I need to fix the financial belt, as it were).
Safehaven2
17-04-2006, 16:20
The UIR is going to recieve 10 points in aid this year from the SU.

(I Know its a bit late but I just did my build today)

Also, the SU would like to inquire about the possibility of signing an official alliance treaty.
Warta Endor
20-04-2006, 21:13
ooc. sorry for the late reply guys, but I've been busy the last couple of days.

SIC.

To Korea

We think your offer is very tempting, especially with your promised help in building our Airforce. Since we're allies in the SCT, you also have aWe will accept your offer.

ooc. How will this work? I assume I'll pay 5 points, and get 2 more Oil points?

SIC.

To France

We thank you for your offer to help expanding our Oil Production, but we have to reject it after much consideration. We hope you won't be offended by our action, as we would like to remain friends.

*Enclosure*

The UIR promises it will aid the Republic of France if it gets attacked in any kind of way, no matter who the attacker is.

SIC.

To Germany

We regret to say that we cannot sell the Island of Kish. We hope that our actions do not deteriorate our relations.

SIC.

To SU

As we have proclaimed our neutrality for the moment in the European Conflict, we have to refuse the gracious offer of alliance. We fear to get sucked in another devastating war which will seriously damage our nation.

The UIR Officialy proclaims it's neutrality in the growing European Conflict.
Warta Endor
20-04-2006, 21:19
The Republic's HMilitary headquarters have ordered Two Mujahideen Divisions to be Deactivated, namely the Divisions Stationed in Kabul and the Khandahar. The Soldiers will stiil remain close to their base so that they can be called up quickly if necessary. If this is a first step to complete Deactivation of the Mujahideen Divisions, who have fought so heroicly in the War of Independance, remains unknown.

ooc. Several generals want to completly motorize the Armed Forces, but others, seeing the growing shortage of Oil, want to become less dependant on Oil.
Abbassia
20-04-2006, 21:51
To France

We thank you for your offer to help expanding our Oil Production, but we have to reject it after much consideration. We hope you won't be offended by our action, as we would like to remain friends.

*Enclosure*

The UIR promises it will aid the Republic of France if it gets attacked in any kind of way, no matter who the attacker is.

The French Ambassador chuckled as he read the message "I knew we should have made another offer, C'est La Vie...":

From the French Government:

"We aree never offended by our friends and to prove this the French Government asks you to take the 5 points anyway as an "Economic Grant" to your fair nation.

We hope for a continued relationship of prosperity and friendship

The French Forign Office"
New Dornalia
21-04-2006, 01:27
ooc. sorry for the late reply guys, but I've been busy the last couple of days.

SIC.

To Korea

We think your offer is very tempting, especially with your promised help in building our Airforce. Since we're allies in the SCT, you also have aWe will accept your offer.

ooc. How will this work? I assume I'll pay 5 points, and get 2 more Oil points?


OOC: Technically, I fork over the points, and you get to produce more oil to export to other nations.

SIC:

One unit of Dassault Mirage Jets from the IKAF is currently being transferred to you as we speak. We are also sending the pilots to help form the basis of your modern airforce.

Korea would also like to inquire about possibly buying oil once expansion of infrastructure is completed.
Warta Endor
22-04-2006, 07:32
SIC.

To Korea

You can buy oil from us, what is the exact amount (in points) you want? If teh production is expanded to 5 points, we have 2 spare oil points which will open for purchase.
New Dornalia
23-04-2006, 03:39
SIC.

To Korea

You can buy oil from us, what is the exact amount (in points) you want? If teh production is expanded to 5 points, we have 2 spare oil points which will open for purchase.

SIC:

Perhaps we will buy one.
Safehaven2
25-04-2006, 00:33
The UIR will be recieving 10 points this year in aid. We would also like to request an alliance now that the situation in Europe has cooled down.
Warta Endor
01-05-2006, 21:13
The UIR will be recieving 10 points this year in aid. We would also like to request an alliance now that the situation in Europe has cooled down.

We thank Scandic Union for their aid. Since the situation has cooled down, we think an alliance is negotiable. We hereby invite a SU diplomat/minister to Teheran for a conference and perhaps a tour of the Battlefields of the Civil War.
Warta Endor
02-05-2006, 12:49
A Reorganization will be started this year (1957) in the Military.
Two "Groups" will be created, who will form the core of the army:

1st. Group-Kabul

2 Mech. Inf. Divisions
1 Mech. Artillery Group
1 Armored Division (To be Build in 1958)

2nd. Group-Teheran

2 Mech. Inf. Divisions
1 Mech. Artillery Group
1 Armored Division

The Mujahideen Divisions will be distributed as following:

Mashhad- 1 Mujahideen Division
Bandar Abbas- 1 Mujahideen Division
Ahwaz- 1 Mujahideen Division

The UIR Airforce will be stationed in Kabul, Teheran (The Mystere IV's) and Bandar Abbas (The Mirage III).

Ayatollah Khomeini has announced that free and fair elections will be held in June 1960. All political parties may join the elections, the more the better. The registration of political parties must be done before January 1960.
Haneastic
03-05-2006, 22:51
To: The United Islamic Republic
From: Japan

We would like to purchase oil from you in the near future (OOC: 1960), if you could sell us 6 poiunts, that would be best, but we would accept anything less as well.

We have also learned of your lack of a navy. We are willing to sell you 2 corvette units, and as many as 3 frigate units, depending on how many you want, for lower prices. (pre 7.5 ships of course)

OOC: you're getting 4 points from me each year for shipbuilding and RE
Safehaven2
03-05-2006, 23:06
We thank Scandic Union for their aid. Since the situation has cooled down, we think an alliance is negotiable. We hereby invite a SU diplomat/minister to Teheran for a conference and perhaps a tour of the Battlefields of the Civil War.

Our foriegn minister will make a trip to the UIR then to talk on the matters.

Also, we are willing to sell the Saab Draken and any other armaments you need. We could also secure the sale of Polish and Ukrainian designs.

OOC: Just assume he's there.
Abbassia
04-05-2006, 07:49
Greetings,

We are glad to see how your nation is quickly developing, we would like to offer you the purchase of the armored AMX-30 - one of our noteworthy and versitile designs- for your armed forces. Our good relations entitles you to a discount of course.

We would like to further offer you our investment in the UIR's future: 15 points of investment in exchange for one point a year for 15 years begining on 1965. We hope that future relations may provide even better opportunities of prosperity.

The French Forign Office
Warta Endor
04-05-2006, 10:43
To; Japan

We currently produce 5 points of oil, so it's impossable to export 6 points of oil to Japan. What do you offer in return?

We are interested in buying 2 Corvette Units and 1 Frigate Units.

To; Scandic Union

We will welcome your minister when he arrives. How much do you want for 2 units of Draken planes?

To; France

We accept your offer of help, which is greatly needed.

We are also interested in the offer for the AMX 30. How much would you aks for enough vehicles to equip two armored divisions and four mech. inf. divisions? (ooc. any idea how much tanks that are in total?)

Meanwhile...

The plane with the SU minister of Foreign Affairs arrived in Teheran. On the Tarmac was an honory guard and the waiting Vice-Ayatollah (ooc. I still think it sounds stupid) Mircha Kurzak Khan. Once the whole ceremony had taken place and the officials were in the Conference Room, the meeting began.

Khan:"First of all: welcome to the United Islamic Republic! We hope your journey here has been pleasent. But let's turn to bussines.

Now the situation in Europe is somewhat more stabilized, we think an alliance between the UIR and SU can benefit both of us. Though the UIR is a peaceloving nation, we will defend our allies when and where ever possible. What exactly is your proposal?
Safehaven2
04-05-2006, 21:13
OOC: Pay whatever it says in the military thread for the Drakens, I think like 3points?

IC:
The Foreign Minister, Carl Souffer, sat down and listened to Khans opening remarks before responding.

"Things have been pleasent, thank you. I must also say that I am glad things have cooled down in Europe. As for our proposal, while what we are proposing is an alliance it would not just be military. We would like a mutual defense treaty but beyond that perhaps a trade agreement and an invitation to join the economic pact between us, the Turkics, Ukraine and Poland?"
Warta Endor
04-05-2006, 21:36
Kahn thought for a moment and frowned. He scribled a short note and then he answered:

I'm afraid joining the economic pact would be a bit difficult since we're member of the Seoul Conference Treaty. I'm sure we can work together in an economical field (we're a big oil producer and planning to expand our production) but joining a pact...no, I'm afraid that's impossible.

The Military Alliance is more probable, but it depends on several factors.

ooc. Ok, I'll add it to my budget. Will you give aid in 1958?
Haneastic
05-05-2006, 01:35
OOC: never miond I only need 4 because of my energy. Also, I sold my frigates so I can sell you the corvettes for 3 points each. If you want destroyers I have 2 units of those
Abbassia
05-05-2006, 07:17
WE, did you recieve my TM?
Warta Endor
05-05-2006, 16:54
OOC: never miond I only need 4 because of my energy. Also, I sold my frigates so I can sell you the corvettes for 3 points each. If you want destroyers I have 2 units of those

ooc. I'll budget 6 points for the two corvettes. After some consideration I've decided that a navy is not a priority.
Safehaven2
05-05-2006, 23:22
Kahn thought for a moment and frowned. He scribled a short note and then he answered:

I'm afraid joining the economic pact would be a bit difficult since we're member of the Seoul Conference Treaty. I'm sure we can work together in an economical field (we're a big oil producer and planning to expand our production) but joining a pact...no, I'm afraid that's impossible.

The Military Alliance is more probable, but it depends on several factors.

ooc. Ok, I'll add it to my budget. Will you give aid in 1958?

OOC: Ya, I be giving aid.

IC:
I had hoped for something deeper than just a military agreement but we have no problem with making one. I'm assuming a defensive agreement maybe with basing rights?
Warta Endor
05-05-2006, 23:47
Khan: A defensive alliance is certainly possible, however Ayatollah Khomeini decides in the end to ratficate any alliances and other deals the UIR signs. Personaly I don't see any objections, maybe the SCT can object in one way or another.
Safehaven2
05-05-2006, 23:54
That is understandable. We hope he agrees with your decision.
New Dornalia
06-05-2006, 00:04
OOC: Hey, WE, is that purchase of one oil point confirmed?
Warta Endor
06-05-2006, 17:29
OOC: Hey, WE, is that purchase of one oil point confirmed?

ooc. Yup, as is the sale of two points to Japan BTW.

IC.

One fighter wing (Dassualt Mystere III, Kabul), Two Mujahideen Divisions (Ahwaz and Bandar Abbas) and One Mech. Division (Kabul) will be stationed in Kadahar to join War Excercises in the Baluchistan area. This will be the first test since the reorganization and the civil war.

Meanwhile


Khan: "Sir, we'll have to accept! They have been very fair and reasonable towards us! It will be a good treaty, for both parties involved!"
Khomeini: "You know we can't do it. We are already a member nation of the SCT, signing another alliance would certainly do us more harm than good. Imagine, the SU is involved in another conflict, and we'll have to support them, we're allies after all. But, the official SCT stance towards the situation is anti-SU. What do we do then? We'll lose face whatever we decide. Economic Cooperation, yes, a formal military and economic alliance, no. No, we don't do it. I'm sorryy Khan, I know you've worked har. Go now and tell the Minister...
Safehaven2
06-05-2006, 20:33
"Economic cooperation? So basically I came here for nothing. For years we've given you more support than any other nation, including the SCT, no other nation backed you in your war for independance, we've asked twice to make our friendship a public thing and twice we've been rebuked, even after fixing the obstacles that got in the way of the first offer.

What reason have we given you to turn us down, twice? Look at our other allies around you, the CAR, Kashgaria, Turkey, Azerbaijan, all of them recieve huge amounts of support from the SU yearly, we are loyal to each and every one of them and have modernized them all. We have built them modern militaries, nuclear power and a space program. Thats is what you would have to expect from us as an ally, more than the SCT is giving you. But instead, it seems you are more than willing to take our money but not so willing to anounce to the world our friendship you proclaim so loudly in private with us.

It is now obvious enough, you do not care about the SU and what we've done even though we've offered you everything we could. You have just been using my nation, and I am embarrassed to say I did not see it till now. Goodbye." Minister Souffer got up and calmly left the room on his way back to Stockholm.
Warta Endor
06-05-2006, 21:25
Khan just sat where he was, shocked and angry. He got up and went to his office. There he first took a cup of coffe and then phoned Khomeini...

Khan:"Yes, it's me. Well, the talks blew up. The minister got a bit...upset and walked away."
Khomeini:"Didn't you stop him? Or say anything?"
Khan:"I couldn't! He was gone before I could react! If you had just listened to my advise, all this could have been prevented! We lost an important friend and possible ally! I hope our "friends"of the SCT are happy now. We remained faithfull to them...Pah!"
Khomeini:"Calm down, my friend. Take a nap and come here at 4 PM. We need to discuss this thing, and you really should calm down! The SU won't stay angry for long, I think. And even if they stay angry... we don't need them..."
Khan:"Fool! Idiot! Can't you see what happened!?!?"

Khan hung up and left his office. Half an hour later he was on his bed in his residence. We've missed the train he thought No way this is going to happen without consequences! We've lost a friend because Khomeini wants to remain friends with the SCT nations, which include our former oppressors! He seriously needs to sort his priorities. If he had supreme powers...No, better not think of that. he's a good rules, eventhough he made a serious mistake today. Slowly he drifted into the land of dreams...

ooc. As you can see, a rift is appearing in the leadership of the UIR. You can say Khan is very pro-SU, with Khomeini and Zahir Shah on the other side being pro-SCT. This could have some consequences in the future...
Abbassia
07-05-2006, 08:45
A cheerful French Ambassador contacts his Friends in the UIR government and asks for a small meeting between two humble officials, there is a small hint of a possible agreement to be made in addition to the usual tete-a-tete...
Warta Endor
09-05-2006, 14:32
The French Embassador is always welcome to dicuss matters of state.

ooc. you may start :)
Abbassia
10-05-2006, 07:53
"I Graciously thank you for receiving me, monsieur" The ambassador spoke in a most sunny way while sipping his cup of tea on that evening, "As you know, since the birth of the fourth republic of France, we have always tried to help the many fledgling nations that are emerging quite frequently at these times as much as possible, something other nations have sadly failed to percieve. Not to imply of course, that a nation as yourself with such a rich history and culture is fledgling and inexperianced, indeed your wisdom in both domestic and forigen policy is to be commended.

My friend you are sitting on top of what probably could be the most valuable substance in existance, the black gold, or the Texas Tea as the Yanks call it, my friends at the oil ministry informs me that you have ample supply of this petroleum (OOC:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10853886&postcount=663).

The third Republic will initiate a program in 1960 to regulate our energy resources due to the high demand and we woud like to negtiate a contract to regularly purchase 4 points of oil from you starting then. We hope you would agree to this business deal from this humble diplomat.

Other matters brought me here today, my government feels that some sort of a diplomatic treaty is required to reflect our friendship and close relations, they were hoping for a full military alliance, but I explained how you were binded to your comitments to the SCT, therefore I came up with another alternative: A treaty to gurantee the independance of the UIR, granting us a casius belli if a hostile action threatened your independance, In addition to this we propose a treaty of economic cooperation where we reduce tariffs between our two nations.

However if you decide that such treaties are too soon, we will understand.

Finally an offer of millitary assistance: we will upgrade your Mystre's to Mirage IIIC as a sign of goodwill.

I await your answer, this tea is most excellent"
Safehaven2
15-05-2006, 01:42
The Scandic amabssabor in the UIR is told to inform the UIR government that they should not expect aid from the Scandic Union this year.
Haneastic
16-06-2006, 15:08
New UIR Military:

6 Mech. Inf. Divisions
3 Armored Division
2 Mech. Artillery Group
1 Mechanzied Flak
3 Flak Units
3 Mujahideen Division
8 Reserve Mujahideen Divisions
2 Parachute Brigades
1 HQ Unit

3 Mirage III’s
2 Helicopter Gun ships
2 Helicopter Transports
2 Mirage V’s
11 Expert Pilots

2 Corvette Units

In 1963:

1 ASW Helicopter
3 Frigate Units
3 IRBM Units
3 Silos
4 Mountain Brigades
2 Special Forces Parachute Battalions
5 Garrison Units



Tehran: Flak Unit, Mujahideen Division, 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Armored Division, 1 Mechanized Division, 2 Mirage III, 1 HQ unit
Kabul:Flak Unit, Mujahideen Division, 1 Armored Division, 1 Mechanized Division
Bandar: Flak Unit, Mujahideen Division, 1 Mirage III
Kerman: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Mechanized Division, 1 Parachute brigade, 1 Helicopter Gunship, 1 Helicopter Transport
Yazd: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Mechanized Artillery
Kandahar: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Parachute Brigade, 1 Helicopter Gunship, 1 Helicopter Transport,
Jalalabad: 1 Reserve Mujahideen Division, 1 Mechanized Division


Guarding UIR's Western Border: 1 Armored Division, 1 Mechanized Division, 1 Mechnized Flak, 1 Mechanized Artilery, 2 Mirage V's



All units are Highly Trained
Abbassia
17-06-2006, 12:12
The French Forign Minister arrives at Tehran before Checking in at his Hotel to rest before meeting with the UIR representative.
Haneastic
17-06-2006, 13:28
The Ayatollah Seyyed Ruhollah Khomeini himself came to greet the French ambassador. When the ambassador came into the conference room, the Ayatollah stood and extended his hand in gretting. "How was your trip, my friend?"
Abbassia
18-06-2006, 09:11
"Good have been better, mon ami, However I remain optomistic about the prospects, so I gather everybody is jumpy about the current situation, no? With massive preperations here and there it would be hard not to..."
Haneastic
18-06-2006, 18:22
The Ayatollah shook his head, "yes, the situation in the Middle East is a dangerous place to be these days, with everyone wanting something and everyone ready to take it by force. But was there something particular that you wanted out of this meeting?"
Abbassia
18-06-2006, 20:23
"Ah stright to the point I see, Well there has been some concern back home that with the explosive situation in the Middle-East, a conflict may spark any day, as you recall the last time this happened was at a much smaller scale affecting the Global Market, a much more intense situation may develop if this situation explodes.

We believe that it is in our mutual interest that this does NOT happen, not only will the oil market Crash but several of my countrymen who invested heavily in your country might see a great loss in their ventures and even the technical personel who preside in your nation may be put at jeopardy as well.

Not that I persume that you would be the aggressor of course, but members of parlament back home are very concerned and would like an assurance -even if unofficial- that no unprovoked -as defined by international law- aggressions are to be made from the UIR.

The Friends of the UIR in parlament, including the President, have privately insenuated to inform you that if an unprovoked attack is made against the UIR, then France shall honour the treaty and support as much as we can. BUT if you are the aggressors I am afraid our hands will be tied.

I am also here in hopes to remind you of the close bounds of friendship our nation has with yours that probably match those you hold with your allies from the East, even though they have marked us with hostility and Paranoia we still hold our friendship dear and, as a friend, we advice you to consider the decision to go to a conflict where there is nothing to gain and a lot to lose, a mistake twice made by my own nation made when they blindly followed their allies into defeat and ruin.
Haneastic
18-06-2006, 20:29
" The UIR will do nothing, and we have recieved similar promises from the Japanese that we will take no actions in the Middle East as long as no attacks are made against us or our allies in Kuwait or Basra. We do not wish to see any more oil problems, though we fear that Sadaam may affect that"
Abbassia
18-06-2006, 20:49
I am pleased by this although I myself expected nothing less from our proud friends, I have another proposal from the Government of France; A French Airbase in Basra based on our two nations good relations, therefore Mr. Hussein will not be so free to attack your allies lest they face the anger of both alliances or at least, the combined powerful troops of the UIR and France.
Haneastic
18-06-2006, 20:56
"We would be happy to have a French Airbase built in Basra as long as UIR troops and aircraft are able to use it, we will naturally help guard the base with you"
Abbassia
18-06-2006, 21:00
Then It is agreed, The Following French Combination is suggested, along with the acceptance of the government of Basra:
-1 French Mirage V
-1 Expert French Pilot
-1 Highly Trained French Garrison
-1 Reserve HQ- Basran Officers
Haneastic
18-06-2006, 21:27
The UIR will put 1 Light Infantry Division and 1 Mirage II with an expert pilot in the base as well.

OOC: I think since Basra is a client state of the UIR, they will accept
Abbassia
18-06-2006, 21:30
Excellent I will announce it.
Ato-Sara
18-06-2006, 22:11
Then It is agreed, The Following French Combination is suggested, along with the acceptance of the government of Basra:
-1 French Mirage V
-1 Expert French Pilot
-1 Highly Trained French Garrison
-1 Reserve HQ- Basran Officers

The Basrans will most likely want to put one of their Mirage V units there as well.
Haneastic
18-06-2006, 22:13
They can put whatever military units there they wish
Warta Endor
28-06-2006, 17:07
I'll take over the UIR again...in the middle of this sh*t...:rolleyes:
Galveston Bay
07-07-2006, 07:50
Kurdistan requests information from the UIr regarding its views on the world situation
Abbassia
23-07-2006, 11:09
The Old French Ambassador to the UIR has since the begining of 1965 announced his retirement but is expected to reside in the UIR as he has fallen in love with the area and its culture.

A replacement is to be arrive shortly and is expected to hold a meeting with a representative of the UIR government about reconfirming existing treaties with France, this includes oil deals, the French Gurantee of the UIR and Basran independance, the Joint French-UIR-Basran Airbase in Basra, French Weapon deals and any other trade deals.

Also on the Agenda is the possibility of exending current treaties into a full alliance between the two nations due to favourable forign relations for a leangthy period of time (the quiet reason being the recent Belligerence of the neighboring Arab Federation). Aswell as to the possibility of renewing aid shipments (but at a reduced rate of 10 points per year) to help in the administration of Pakistan and other areas.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 14:15
The UIR is happy to recieve the new ambassador and to increase relations with France. A strong ally in Europe is always a good thing.

Kurdistan is informed that the UIR will stay out of the war and help pick up the pieces afterward
Abbassia
23-07-2006, 16:10
The French Representative welcomes this response and immediately confirms tha a shipment of 10 points aid will now regularly reach the government's koffers. Also a formal treaty of alliance will be drafted shortly to confirm the status of France as the UIR's Ally.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 16:15
The UIR is thankful for these aid packages and will repay France when it can.

The formal alliance is ratified and the UIR will be happy to extend this to any nation who wishes protection

OOC: like Kurdistan and Basra
Abbassia
23-07-2006, 16:23
OOC: Exactly what I had in mind.

The French Embassy makes quiet remarks that the French recognise Basra and Kurdistan as being within the UIR's sphere of influence and to help assure this, a second airbase is offered to be constructed in Kurdistan, if they accept of course.

Also in exchange for airbases in Kabul, Pakistan and Tehran, we would offer you the licence to acquire French Mirage F1 aircrafts. So as not to damage public opinion one these airbases will be refered to as an "airforce acadamy" and another might open within three years from the others.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 17:17
The UIR accepts France's offers
Abbassia
23-07-2006, 17:25
Excellent, here is our intended plan which would start in 1966:

1966: Base in Kurdistan:
-1 Mirage F1
-1 Expert Pilot
-1 Highly Trained Garison
-1 Kurdish HQ -reserve- "paid by me"

1967:
-Base in Pakistan "same as above"
-Base in Kabul "same"

1970:
-The Ayotallah Airforce Acadamy in Tehran "same as above but with a Mirage IV light bombers and without a French Garison"

Mirage F1 Designs will be released in 1966.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 18:22
The UIR accepts this and will place a Garrison unit, a Flak unit, and an F1 or Mirage G with an expert pilot at each base.

OOC: which will help my air force in the event of an attack on me, cause no one wants to fight both of us
Galveston Bay
23-07-2006, 20:48
India recommends that Khalistan (Sikh area) remain independent
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 22:21
India is informed that the Sikh area will remian semi-autonomus, and it will be able to govern their internal affairs, but they will remain a part of the UIR

OOC: what was the rough population of Pakistan in 1965?
Ottoman Khaif
23-07-2006, 22:25
Ok, I have to ask this question. How is the UIR which is mainly Shia, going to handle a Sunni state like Pakistan, like how to govern it and manger the differents in beliefs and etc. Like ex. in Iran and Afghanistan, Persian is spoke and in Pakistan its Urdu mainly...just wondering...how it would work..
Galveston Bay
23-07-2006, 22:33
Ok, I have to ask this question. How is the UIR which is mainly Shia, going to handle a Sunni state like Pakistan, like how to govern it and manger the differents in beliefs and etc. Like ex. in Iran and Afghanistan, Persian is spoke and in Pakistan its Urdu mainly...just wondering...how it would work..

probably not very well
[NS]Parthini
23-07-2006, 22:38
India is informed that the Sikh area will remian semi-autonomus, and it will be able to govern their internal affairs, but they will remain a part of the UIR

OOC: what was the rough population of Pakistan in 1965?

The UIR is informed that the German Empire will not support UIR occupation of the Sikh peoples who clearly desire independance and the wishes to rule themselves.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 22:56
Ok, I have to ask this question. How is the UIR which is mainly Shia, going to handle a Sunni state like Pakistan, like how to govern it and manger the differents in beliefs and etc. Like ex. in Iran and Afghanistan, Persian is spoke and in Pakistan its Urdu mainly...just wondering...how it would work..


By spending lots and lots of points. However, if you notice from before, it won't be like Shia's ruling Sunni's, it will be both groups in the government. The judicial capital is in the process of being moved to Karachi. Plus many muslims in Pakistan will probably fear a vengeful India, seeking revenge for being controlled by the Muslims. Also, Pakistan has the second largest Shia population in the world, after Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pakistan_ethnic_80.jpg
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 22:59
Parthini']The UIR is informed that the German Empire will not support UIR occupation of the Sikh peoples who clearly desire independance and the wishes to rule themselves.

Germany is politely informed that India recommended such a thing and that the UIR is not forcing Sikhs to do anything, they will have the ability to control their domestic affairs, but the UIR will have military and foreign control

EDIT- I'm not even sure if you would have learned of this, it was between two governments and the UIR and India are pretty far down the line in your concerns
Ottoman Khaif
23-07-2006, 23:00
By spending lots and lots of points. However, if you notice from before, it won't be like Shia's ruling Sunni's, it will be both groups in the government. The judicial capital is in the process of being moved to Karachi. Plus many muslims in Pakistan will probably fear a vengeful India, seeking revenge for being controlled by the Muslims. Also, Pakistan has the second largest Shia population in the world, after Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pakistan_ethnic_80.jpg
That is true, Pakistan has a history of tenison between Sunni and Shia...many riots have broken out..they don't co-exist peaceful for the most part.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 23:01
That is true, Pakistan has a history of tenison between Sunni and Shia...many riots have broken out..they don't co-exist peaceful for the most part.

I'm sure there will be some fighting, especially at first, but hopefully things will somewhat quiet down after a while
Galveston Bay
23-07-2006, 23:40
Germany is politely informed that India recommended such a thing and that the UIR is not forcing Sikhs to do anything, they will have the ability to control their domestic affairs, but the UIR will have military and foreign control

EDIT- I'm not even sure if you would have learned of this, it was between two governments and the UIR and India are pretty far down the line in your concerns

Sikhs are willing to consider that, but will not accept conscription into the UIR military and reserve the right to provide volunteers to the British government (to earn foreign currency)
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 23:44
Sikhs are willing to consider that, but will not accept conscription into the UIR military and reserve the right to provide volunteers to the British government (to earn foreign currency)

The UIR will accept that, but inform the Sikhs that in the even of a war, some Sikhs may be drafted in an emergency.

OOC: the UIR army is volunteer anyway
[NS]Parthini
23-07-2006, 23:44
Germany is politely informed that India recommended such a thing and that the UIR is not forcing Sikhs to do anything, they will have the ability to control their domestic affairs, but the UIR will have military and foreign control

EDIT- I'm not even sure if you would have learned of this, it was between two governments and the UIR and India are pretty far down the line in your concerns

On the contrary!

The UIR has now topped the list of the biggest threats to the Middle East, not to mention the fact that you never specified that it was SIC.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 23:51
Parthini']On the contrary!

The UIR has now topped the list of the biggest threats to the Middle East, not to mention the fact that you never specified that it was SIC.

Ok but there's a few problems to this:

1. The Sikhs mentioned (according to GB) that they were willing to consider my offer, so it's not like I'm oppressing them

2. Middle East is not Pakistan

3. I never mentioned expanding into the Middle East

4. You're not in much of a position to do much right now
[NS]Parthini
23-07-2006, 23:57
1. I know your not oppressing them. That doesn't matter to me :)

2. Yes, according to many sources, the Middle East ranges from Egypt to India

3. You don't have to mention anything. Nor does it really matter if that's your intention. Prevention is the key.

4. My Middle Eastern Army, which is pretty close in size to yours, wasn't touched. Not to mention the fact that the AF would just love to smash up their big next door neighbor. And I'm sure the EEC Defense Clause means something.
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 23:59
Parthini']1. I know your not oppressing them. That doesn't matter to me :)

2. Yes, according to many sources, the Middle East ranges from Egypt to India

3. You don't have to mention anything. Nor does it really matter if that's your intention. Prevention is the key.

4. My Middle Eastern Army, which is pretty close in size to yours, wasn't touched. Not to mention the fact that the AF would just love to smash up their big next door neighbor. And I'm sure the EEC Defense Clause means something.

France is in an alliance with me, and the AF has asked me for help against Nigeria in Sudan. Plus I still have IRBM's
[NS]Parthini
24-07-2006, 00:16
Pretty sure France and Nigeria like me better.

And was that a threat?
The Lightning Star
24-07-2006, 00:18
The Middle East is from Egypt to Iran (Egypt is part of the middle east). The Islamic world is from Morocco to Pakistan
Haneastic
24-07-2006, 00:23
Parthini']Pretty sure France and Nigeria like me better.

And was that a threat?

Only if you feel the need to fight me