Sanctions Against Eonopolis
Socialist Whittier
28-03-2006, 14:48
Due to the murder of communist people by the government of Eonopolis, the Whittier government has no choice but to impose economic sanctions on their regime.
All persons who are Eonopolitan citizens who are in Whittier whether on vacation or business have arrested by the secret police and are now being interrogated for committing the high crime of espionage.
All ships and bearing the Eonopolitan flag that enter Whittier waters are subject to a thourogh search and all contraband will be siezed and the operators of the ship tossed into a Whittier prison where they will stay forever.
All Eonopolitan aircraft are prohibited from operating in Whittier air space. Those on the ground at Whittier airports have been siezed and the pilots and flight attendants arrested for espionage.
The spies will be released only when Enopolis government releases the innocent communist freedom fighters that they are threatening to kill.
Arbeiterreich
28-03-2006, 14:59
Due to the murder of communist people by the government of Eonopolis, the Whittier government has no choice but to impose economic sanctions on their regime.
All persons who are Eonopolitan citizens who are in Whittier whether on vacation or business have arrested by the secret police and are now being interrogated for committing the high crime of espionage.
All ships and bearing the Eonopolitan flag that enter Whittier waters are subject to a thourogh search and all contraband will be siezed and the operators of the ship tossed into a Whittier prison where they will stay forever.
All Eonopolitan aircraft are prohibited from operating in Whittier air space. Those on the ground at Whittier airports have been siezed and the pilots and flight attendants arrested for espionage.
The spies will be released only when Enopolis government releases the innocent communist freedom fighters that they are threatening to kill.
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The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich
To: Nations of the World
From: Ministerium der Leute für internationale Relationen
The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich voices its support for the United Socialist States of Whittier and condemns the acts of the fascists in the govenrment of Eonopolis for their crimes against the freedom warriors of Marxist-Leninism.
Minister Frederik Grubel
Minister for International Relations
Madnestan
28-03-2006, 15:02
OOC: You can't possibly know if there are ANY Eonopolians in your country. Eonopolia is poorer than Burundi, so I doubt if too many of its people are on vacation your country. Besides that, in this huge NS world, it would be one hell of a coincidense if there were any of his planes in SW. If he even has airplanes.
It doesn't seem likely your embargo has too big effect on him either... There are thousands and thousands of potential trade partners in NationStates, remember?
But anyways;
IC:
Official response
Madnestan condemns these unjustified actions of Socialist Whittier against the legal government and sovereign state of Eonopolis. They are dealing with criminals in their country, and the way they do it is completely their own business. Since none of your citizens were hurt, your actions against possible Eonopolians in SW are completely illegal and unmoral.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
The Gate Builders
28-03-2006, 15:19
Statement of the Holy Ministry of Humanitarian Actions
The Conclave of the Tribunal Church wholeheartedly condemns this action of a tiny government hoping that by making enough of a nuisance of itself it will gain recognition. Hercules transport planes carrying aid will be sent toEonopolis to counter the (negligable) effect this loss of Whittier(an?) business may have.
Socialist Whittier
28-03-2006, 15:27
OOC: You can't possibly know if there are ANY Eonopolians in your country. Eonopolia is poorer than Burundi, so I doubt if too many of its people are on vacation your country. Besides that, in this huge NS world, it would be one hell of a coincidense if there were any of his planes in SW. If he even has airplanes.
It doesn't seem likely your embargo has too big effect on him either... There are thousands and thousands of potential trade partners in NationStates, remember?
But anyways;
IC:
Official response
Madnestan condemns these unjustified actions of Socialist Whittier against the legal government and sovereign state of Eonopolis. They are dealing with criminals in their country, and the way they do it is completely their own business. Since none of your citizens were hurt, your actions against possible Eonopolians in SW are completely illegal and unmoral.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
OOC: You have it backward. He can't have any in my nation unless I say he has people in my nation. Just like I can't say there are Whittierites in your nation, unless you say there are Whittierites in your nation.
It is up to the nation owner what nationalities he has in his nation. Cause there are bound to be some of his people in my nation, and in other nations, regardless of whether he is poor nation. They can go to other countries on scholarships and stuff like that. They don't have to be rich.
Further, embargoes are effective cause not everyone rps with everyone. That narrows considerably the potential "ineffectiveness" of sanctions by narrowing the nation involvement pool. A sanction's effects depend not on the total number of nations in the NS forum, but rather on the number of nations actually participating in the rp, that accept or reject the sanctions.
IC: We call on Madnestan to stop supporting criminal governments guilty of gross violations of human rights.
Whittier will always stand with and behind communist freedom fighters whereever in the world they are found.
The Secretary General is holding meeting with top staff to decide the next step. (ooc: next step after Eonopolis replies)
Socialist Whittier
28-03-2006, 15:30
Statement of the Holy Ministry of Humanitarian Actions
The Conclave of the Tribunal Church wholeheartedly condemns this action of a tiny government hoping that by making enough of a nuisance of itself it will gain recognition. Hercules transport planes carrying aid will be sent toEonopolis to counter the (negligable) effect this loss of Whittier(an?) business may have.
OOC: Whittierite
IC: The Whittier Foreign Ministry wishes to know why the Conclave is supporting criminals who have threatened to engage in genocide against innocent peoples.
Madnestan
28-03-2006, 15:48
OOC: You have it backward. He can't have any in my nation unless I say he has people in my nation. Just like I can't say there are Whittierites in your nation, unless you say there are Whittierites in your nation.
It is up to the nation owner what nationalities he has in his nation. Cause there are bound to be some of his people in my nation, and in other nations, regardless of whether he is poor nation. They can go to other countries on scholarships and stuff like that. They don't have to be rich.
Further, embargoes are effective cause not everyone rps with everyone. That narrows considerably the potential "ineffectiveness" of sanctions by narrowing the nation involvement pool. A sanction's effects depend not on the total number of nations in the NS forum, but rather on the number of nations actually participating in the rp, that accept or reject the sanctions. OOC: Nope, you're wrong with this one. If he says that no Eonopolian citizen was in SW, then that's the way it was - unless there is a real reason to assume otherwise (like having very close relations, beeing neighbours or somethnig ).
It is the basic rule of NS RP - the player behind a nation has the final word over his citizens. Others may of course ignore him, if something competely stupid or impossible is said about them (like that they are all gays, they have no teeths or they all love their despot, all of which I have witnessed BTW) but in this case saying that there weren't any Eonopolians in SW is as reasonable as to say that there aren't any Uganda citizens in Honduras. Which I find rather easy to believe. A tiny nation putting another little one under a trade embargo has very, very little effect.
IC: We call on Madnestan to stop supporting criminal governments guilty of gross violations of human rights.
Whittier will always stand with and behind communist freedom fighters whereever in the world they are found.
The Secretary General is holding meeting with top staff to decide the next step. (ooc: next step after Eonopolis replies)
Madnestan stands behind the legitimate government of Eonopolis. They have done nothing except rounding up some traitors and criminals, but since you already admitted you are ready to take actions against sovereign nations to support some political movements I don't even expect you to understand international laws.
Stay therefore warned - any acts of agression against Eonopolis without it's straight and unmistacable provocation are quickly dealt by our own armed forces.
Warchief Tamujid
From The Office of the President of the Republic
We, The Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog, here by declare that trade and tourism with the nation of Eonopolis, to be official cut off. All ships and aircraft from the said nation are not allowed in The Liberal Democratic Republic's airspace or waters.
President Wolfgang Lichtenburg
The Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog
Socialist Whittier
28-03-2006, 16:07
OOC: Nope, you're wrong with this one. If he says that no Eonopolian citizen was in SW, then that's the way it was - unless there is a real reason to assume otherwise (like having very close relations, beeing neighbours or somethnig ).
It is the basic rule of NS RP - the player behind a nation has the final word over his citizens. Others may of course ignore him, if something competely stupid or impossible is said about them (like that they are all gays, they have no teeths or they all love their despot, all of which I have witnessed BTW) but in this case saying that there weren't any Eonopolians in SW is as reasonable as to say that there aren't any Uganda citizens in Honduras. Which I find rather easy to believe. A tiny nation putting another little one under a trade embargo has very, very little effect.
IC: We call on Madnestan to stop supporting criminal governments guilty of gross violations of human rights.
Whittier will always stand with and behind communist freedom fighters whereever in the world they are found.
The Secretary General is holding meeting with top staff to decide the next step. (ooc: next step after Eonopolis replies)
Madnestan stands behind the legitimate government of Eonopolis. They have done nothing except rounding up some traitors and criminals, but since you already admitted you are ready to take actions against sovereign nations to support some political movements I don't even expect you to understand international laws.
Stay therefore warned - any acts of agression against Eonopolis without it's straight and unmistacable provocation are quickly dealt by our own armed forces.
Warchief Tamujid[/QUOTE]
ooc: why are you and I arguing it when it is between me and Eonopolis? It is up to him. I was just responding to you saying there wasn't any. Unless Eonopolis is your puppet. If he wants the rp to go forward he might accept that some of his citizens were in my nation just like some of mine would be in his so he can retaliate in kind if he wanted to. I just need to know how many of his people were in mine. If it was a lot, a few, a very small amount.
IC: Whittier has no intention of being the aggressor. We only defend ourselves and fellow socialists.
OOC: waiting for Eonopolis.
BTW, SW is not a tiny nation, the population is about 1.4 billion.
Socialist Whittier
28-03-2006, 16:14
OOC thread here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10654627#post10654627
Madnestan
28-03-2006, 16:15
ooc: why are you and I arguing it when it is between me and Eonopolis? It is up to him. I was just responding to you saying there wasn't any. Unless Eonopolis is your puppet. If he wants the rp to go forward he might accept that some of his citizens were in my nation just like some of mine would be in his so he can retaliate in kind if he wanted to. I just need to know how many of his people were in mine. If it was a lot, a few, a very small amount.OOC: Meh, just a bad habit of mine. I always start barking when I see something beeing said wrong, or think so. In any case, your basic statement was false - YOU can't say that another country has people in your country, even though you can say that there isn't any, if you have banned that or something. This later way of saying of yours sounded much better.
IC: Whittier has no intention of being the aggressor. We only defend ourselves and fellow socialists.
We are glad to hear that.
Warchief Tamujid
OOC: waiting for Eonopolis.
BTW, SW is not a tiny nation, the population is about 1.4 billion.
OOC: Heh, good point. Then let's change the example a bit: You're like Uganda and China. Better? ;)
Arbeiterreich
28-03-2006, 16:33
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The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich
To: Eonopolis
From: Ministerium der Leute für internationale Relationen
CC: Involved Nations
Whilst we stand by our Whitterite comrades in this matter, the People's Republic would prefer not to see harm come to the oppressed proletariat of Eonopolis which would come about from sanctions and other actions that may occur. To that end, we would like to offer the proposal of extradition, where the leaders of the Communist freedom fighters within Eonopolis are transferred to the People's Republic rather than executed for attempting to defend the true people of the world.
Minister Frederik Grubel
Minister for International Relations
The Gate Builders
28-03-2006, 17:12
OOC: Whittierite
IC: The Whittier Foreign Ministry wishes to know why the Conclave is supporting criminals who have threatened to engage in genocide against innocent peoples.
The Conclave believes that it is not the right of any nation to carry out actions against a state which is already impoverished, and which could result in further misery for the people of said state.
To: Socialist Nations aganist Eonopolis
From: The Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog
We are captialist, but thats not the point. I will deploy a intelligence sub in international waters near the nation in question. We need to know what they are thinking. We ask if you any info we find.
International Waters near Eonopolis
The Tranton-Class intelligence sub, RNS Idato prowls the deeps until it reaches the ideal spot. The sub deploys it's floating wire, so it can pick up enemy com. and radar signals with the risk of detection because the wire stops at 50ft below waterline.
OOC: Has Eonopolis even Posted on This Thread?
IC: The Imperial Repubic of Hataria will not join in this War to be, but it will Uphold The Sanctions against Eonopoils
Madnestan
28-03-2006, 18:11
OOC: I think he said in other thread that he's landlocked. Anyways, are you guys alraedy going to attack him? Understandable in OOC but pretty silly in IC, since he hasn't done more than rounded up few political enemies yet...:rolleyes:
Anyways, we all should wait him to say something before doing anything hasty methinks.
Eonopolis
28-03-2006, 18:58
Due to the murder of communist people by the government of Eonopolis, the Whittier government has no choice but to impose economic sanctions on their regime.
All persons who are Eonopolitan citizens who are in Whittier whether on vacation or business have arrested by the secret police and are now being interrogated for committing the high crime of espionage.
All ships and bearing the Eonopolitan flag that enter Whittier waters are subject to a thourogh search and all contraband will be siezed and the operators of the ship tossed into a Whittier prison where they will stay forever.
All Eonopolitan aircraft are prohibited from operating in Whittier air space. Those on the ground at Whittier airports have been siezed and the pilots and flight attendants arrested for espionage.
The spies will be released only when Enopolis government releases the innocent communist freedom fighters that they are threatening to kill.
For your information my proud nation cares not what some dirty Communist Leader thinks of the choices I make for the betterment of my country. The Communist leaders you speak of have already been killed, and sanction hurt us not!
Bah! And to think that any Eonopolitan would vacation to any pathetic country, let alone yours, is preposterous. And spies, spies in your nation from mine! We care not what goes on in your pit!
Down with Communism! Up With the Dear Leader! Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader of the Peoples Causes the Great General Dante Spano
Eonopolis
28-03-2006, 19:00
Statement of the Holy Ministry of Humanitarian Actions
The Conclave of the Tribunal Church wholeheartedly condemns this action of a tiny government hoping that by making enough of a nuisance of itself it will gain recognition. Hercules transport planes carrying aid will be sent toEonopolis to counter the (negligable) effect this loss of Whittier(an?) business may have.
Trust us brother nation, their pity "sanctions" have done nothing to stain our nations prosperity.
But aid is always welcomed.
Long live Eonopolis! Down with Communism!
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader of the Great Lands of Eonopolis General Dante Spano
Eonopolis
28-03-2006, 19:03
OOC: You can't possibly know if there are ANY Eonopolians in your country. Eonopolia is poorer than Burundi, so I doubt if too many of its people are on vacation your country. Besides that, in this huge NS world, it would be one hell of a coincidense if there were any of his planes in SW. If he even has airplanes.
It doesn't seem likely your embargo has too big effect on him either... There are thousands and thousands of potential trade partners in NationStates, remember?
But anyways;
IC:
Official response
Madnestan condemns these unjustified actions of Socialist Whittier against the legal government and sovereign state of Eonopolis. They are dealing with criminals in their country, and the way they do it is completely their own business. Since none of your citizens were hurt, your actions against possible Eonopolians in SW are completely illegal and unmoral.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
We thank out brother nation Madnestan for it's wholehearted support of Eonopolis in the last days.
Let us come together to continue the tradition of national sovereignity!
Long live Eonopolis! Long live Madnestan! Long live the General!
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Eonopolis
28-03-2006, 19:05
To: Socialist Nations aganist Eonopolis
From: The Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog
We are captialist, but thats not the point. I will deploy a intelligence sub in international waters near the nation in question. We need to know what they are thinking. We ask if you any info we find.
International Waters near Eonopolis
The Tranton-Class intelligence sub, RNS Idato prowls the deeps until it reaches the ideal spot. The sub deploys it's floating wire, so it can pick up enemy com. and radar signals with the risk of detection because the wire stops at 50ft below waterline.
Eonopolis is a landlocked nation get it into your puny minds. No intelligence in the world seems to work when you can not even realize the fact that my nation has no "water" surrounding it.
Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Eonopolis
28-03-2006, 19:06
OOC: Has Eonopolis even Posted on This Thread?
IC: The Imperial Repubic of Hataria will not join in this War to be, but it will Uphold The Sanctions against Eonopoils
There shall be no war with Eonopolis as long as I am in charge, no war at all.
Peace and only peace shall prevail
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
OOC:It was not send to you. You just did whats call godmod.
The Cassiopeia Galaxy
28-03-2006, 19:46
OOC:It was not send to you. You just did whats call godmod.
OOC Yep. Eonopoils is close to being a Godmoder, class 3.
Madnestan
28-03-2006, 19:50
OOC:It was not send to you. You just did whats call godmod.
OOC: How could anyone have known to whom was it sent? You didn't say it was "Secret transmission to .....", just "IC:", and for what I know things that are posted in IC and not marked with a "SECRET"-text are meant for everybody.
Eonopolis
28-03-2006, 19:50
OOC:It was not send to you. You just did whats call godmod.
OOC: In way previous messages on other threadsI layed out the geography of Eonopolis, saying it was a landlocked nation
Skinny87
28-03-2006, 19:55
OOC: How could anyone have known to whom was it sent? You didn't say it was "Secret transmission to .....", just "IC:", and for what I know things that are posted in IC and not marked with a "SECRET"-text are meant for everybody.
I've been watching this thread, and I'm in 100% agreement here. Unles it reads 'SECRET' or 'SIC' the information labelled under 'IC' is known to all, even if they have to work for it - sonar searching for subs etc.
Red Tide2
28-03-2006, 20:49
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM RED TIDE GOVERMENT
"Due to recent threats by foreign nations threatening to violate the rightful national sovereignty of the nation of Eonopolis, we proclaim our full support for the rightful and legitimate goverment of Eonopolis. We offer them a trade agreement, a embassy exchange, aswell as economic and military aid. Any attempted invasion of Eonopolis will NOT be looked kindly upon."
End Message
TOP SECRET MESSAGE TO EONOPOLIS GOVERMENT FROM RED TIDE GOVERMENT
"We can begin the immediate airlift of military advisors and equipment. We can provide you with any ground based, conventional weapon you need. We will NOT supply you with WMDs, we can, however, SELL you the proper equipment to manufacture them. We do not recommend that until you develop a good enough economy. Finally, our recommendation is to prepare for a possible airborne invasion by the communists. We have determined this to be the only possible way they can attack us."
End Message
Eonopolis
29-03-2006, 00:50
To Our Dear Brother Nation of RedTide2,
We thank you for supporting a nation's sovereignity, something that in this day and age is quickly disappearing thanks to the evil ways of Commies and human scum.
Currently, we have sent an team to establish an embassy in your nation, and through that embassy we hope to maintain close and warm relations with your nation.
Long live the Friendship Between RedTide2 and Eonopolis! Long live the General!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
The Gate Builders
29-03-2006, 13:23
OOC Yep. Eonopoils is close to being a Godmoder, class 3.
[Yeah, like you have any right to mention godmoding.]
Socialist Whittier
29-03-2006, 13:48
OOC: Keep the ooc comments in the ooc thread. Not here.
Bertling
29-03-2006, 14:29
[To: The The People's Republic of Eonopolis]
[From: Gen. Jonas Stoeregaard, Minister of External Affairs]
[Re: The threat of Communist Imperialism to Global Security]
As instructed by His Most Just and Righteous Majesty, King Harald II of Bertling, I hereby offer our support. We hold the right of each nation to govern its own citizens as they see neccesary to be what stands between order and chaos. Further, we believe that the single greatest threat to the Global Community is the onslaught of the Communist warmongers.
We offer You an exhange of embassies, to be effected as soon as You see fit. We further offer to open trade between our two sovereign nations.
Respectfully,
Gen. Jonas Stoeregaard
Minister of External Affairs
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--encoded message--
[delivered to Eonopolian diplomats in a neutral country]
We are prepared to help you in your struggles by lending you one hundred Counter-Insurgency Specialist to help train your troops, we are also prepared to sell you military equipment, should you need it. In addition, should you require funds to bolster your defences, we are prepared to extend a loan (up to $500.000.000)
Eonopolis
29-03-2006, 19:05
To Our Brother Nation Bertling,
Your friendship is warmly accepted! A team has already been sent to your capital with hopes of establishing an embassy.
Communism has no chance against the power of Eonopolis and it's many allies which include:
Kurona
Bertling
Madnestan
Pythogria
Amazonian Beasts
Fight us and you shall see our wrath!
Long live Eonopolis and it's aliies! Long live the General!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader of the Sovereign Nation of Eonopolis
Praetonia
29-03-2006, 19:46
Diplomatic Communique - Ministry of Industry - via - Foreign & Commonwealth Office
Rg: Eonopolis PRIVATE
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Sir,
With regard to your current economic predictament --
His Majesty's Government views with displeasure the attempt by Bolshevik tyrannies such as Socialist Whittier to impose their will upon your state and, although neither His Majesty nor his Government approve of your alleged actions against suspected dissidents per se, it is their belief that the action taken in response has been unnecessarily heavy-handed and damaging.
It would be to our mutual benefit, therefore, for your Government to open Eonopolian markets to Praetonian investment, which would precipitate the rapid construction of factories by such companies as Imperial Chlor-Alkali, Imperial Airways and Lloyds' Nitro-Munitions. Noting the impending invasion of your nation by aforementioned Bolshevik tyrannies, the Confederate of Praetonian Industry would be forced to lobby, on behalf of its members, for protection for Praetonian investment in Eonopolis. A petition which, of course, His Majesty's Government shall have no choice but to accept, leading the near-immediate deployment of Praetonian land and naval forces to protection specifically the factories themselves but on a wider scale their workforces and the general stability of Eonopolis. Armaments would also be supplied to Eonopolis by the Praetonian Government.
An agreement of this sort would, as you can see, prove profitable for Praetonian business and investors, as well as your own economy through taxation, added employment and improved training, and would go a long way towards ensuring your wider national security. Should such an agreement prove unacceptable, then we shall, of course, readily part in peace for Eonopolis to make its own fate.
Yours Sincerely,
Sir Tobias Gregory,
Permanent Undersecretary for the Ministry of Industry
Eonopolis
29-03-2006, 19:50
Diplomatic Communique - Ministry of Industry - via - Foreign & Commonwealth Office
Rg: Eonopolis PRIVATE
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Sir,
With regard to your current economic predictament --
His Majesty's Government views with displeasure the attempt by Bolshevik tyrannies such as Socialist Whittier to impose their will upon your state and, although neither His Majesty nor his Government approve of your alleged actions against suspected dissidents per se, it is their belief that the action taken in response has been unnecessarily heavy-handed and damaging.
It would be to our mutual benefit, therefore, for your Government to open Eonopolian markets to Praetonian investment, which would precipitate the rapid construction of factories by such companies as Imperial Chlor-Alkali, Imperial Airways and Lloyds' Nitro-Munitions. Noting the impending invasion of your nation by aforementioned Bolshevik tyrannies, the Confederate of Praetonian Industry would be forced to lobby, on behalf of its members, for protection for Praetonian investment in Eonopolis. A petition which, of course, His Majesty's Government shall have no choice but to accept, leading the near-immediate deployment of Praetonian land and naval forces to protection specifically the factories themselves but on a wider scale their workforces and the general stability of Eonopolis. Armaments would also be supplied to Eonopolis by the Praetonian Government.
An agreement of this sort would, as you can see, prove profitable for Praetonian business and investors, as well as your own economy through taxation, added employment and improved training, and would go a long way towards ensuring your wider national security. Should such an agreement prove unacceptable, then we shall, of course, readily part in peace for Eonopolis to make its own fate.
Yours Sincerely,
Sir Tobias Gregory,
Permanent Undersecretary for the Ministry of Industry
Of course we agree Brother nation!
Arbeiterreich
30-03-2006, 11:33
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The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich
To: Eonopolis
From: Ministerium der Leute für internationale Relationen
The People's Republic would like to re-offer our possibility of extraditing the Communists to our nation rather than executing them.
Minister Frederik Grubel
Minister for International Relations
Socialist Whittier
30-03-2006, 11:47
The Gilgax spy sattillite is now being used to take photos of activities inside Eonopolis. (OOC: It flies over 5 times a day. Not over Eonopolis specifically but over the general area)
Meantime, the government has banned potato chips made in Eonopolis from being imported into the UPR. Potato chips and soda pop were chosen as the first items to be banned under sanctions.
TOP TOP TOP Secret
Meantime, A Spy Agency central Amanda Bertrand had just completed recovery. She and Matt Deamon would infiltrate Eonopolis. The espionage plan was complex.
They would pose as refugees from some country and collect information on the workings of Eonopolis, its government and its society. They would also snoop around to find out the state of the communist insurgency.
They had just had plastic surgery to make themselves look like Eonopolans.
The rules were clear though, if they were caught they were on their own. There would be no connection to the Whittier government which would deny they even existed. If caught, they knew they would be killed. But their cause was just and righteous.
Socialist Whittier
30-03-2006, 11:50
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The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich
To: Eonopolis
From: Ministerium der Leute für internationale Relationen
The People's Republic would like to re-offer our possibility of extraditing the Communists to our nation rather than executing them.
Minister Frederik Grubel
Minister for International Relations
TOP SECRET COMMUNIQUE
To Arbeiterrich
We are sending a team of intell agents to learn about Eonopolis communist people. Once we get back the info from their mission, we may mount a rescue mission to evacuate the communists from Eonopolis. Your support, should such a plan become necessary, would be appreciated.
Arbeiterreich
30-03-2006, 12:53
TOP SECRET COMMUNIQUE
To Arbeiterrich
We are sending a team of intell agents to learn about Eonopolis communist people. Once we get back the info from their mission, we may mount a rescue mission to evacuate the communists from Eonopolis. Your support, should such a plan become necessary, would be appreciated.
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The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich
TOP SECRET
To: The United Socialist States of Whittier
From: Office of the Arbeiters-Reichmarschall, Vorsitzender Alexander Neuberger
Greetings my Comrades,
In the event of a rescue operation to save the valiant Communist freedom fighters of Eonopolis, my nation stands by you. We have only a limited means of deploying infantry and armoured vehicles, but due to the small nature of this strike we will provide you with all the support we can in such an occurence, be it military or logistically.
Alexander Neuberger
Vorsitzender: Reich-Kommunist-Partei Des Arbeiters
Arbeiters-Reichmarschall: Die Prachtvollen Revolutionären Bewaffneten Kräfte der Volksrepublik von Arbeiterreich
(President: Worker's Empire Communist Party
Worker's Empire Marshall: The People's Revolutionary Armed Forces of the People's Republic of Arbeiterreich)
Socialist Whittier
30-03-2006, 13:27
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The People's Republic of Arbeiterreich
TOP SECRET
To: The United Socialist States of Whittier
From: Office of the Arbeiters-Reichmarschall, Vorsitzender Alexander Neuberger
Greetings my Comrades,
In the event of a rescue operation to save the valiant Communist freedom fighters of Eonopolis, my nation stands by you. We have only a limited means of deploying infantry and armoured vehicles, but due to the small nature of this strike we will provide you with all the support we can in such an occurence, be it military or logistically.
Alexander Neuberger
Vorsitzender: Reich-Kommunist-Partei Des Arbeiters
Arbeiters-Reichmarschall: Die Prachtvollen Revolutionären Bewaffneten Kräfte der Volksrepublik von Arbeiterreich
(President: Worker's Empire Communist Party
Worker's Empire Marshall: The People's Revolutionary Armed Forces of the People's Republic of Arbeiterreich)
Top Secret:
We appreciate your support on the matter. We expect the operation to be very small and subtle so force should not be a question. If an evacuation is in order, our spies will establish an underground railroad like network in Eonopolis to shelter the Eonopolis communists until they are out of the country.
Eonopolis
31-03-2006, 00:21
The Gilgax spy sattillite is now being used to take photos of activities inside Eonopolis. (OOC: It flies over 5 times a day. Not over Eonopolis specifically but over the general area)
Meantime, the government has banned potato chips made in Eonopolis from being imported into the UPR. Potato chips and soda pop were chosen as the first items to be banned under sanctions.
TOP TOP TOP Secret
Meantime, A Spy Agency central Amanda Bertrand had just completed recovery. She and Matt Deamon would infiltrate Eonopolis. The espionage plan was complex.
They would pose as refugees from some country and collect information on the workings of Eonopolis, its government and its society. They would also snoop around to find out the state of the communist insurgency.
They had just had plastic surgery to make themselves look like Eonopolans.
The rules were clear though, if they were caught they were on their own. There would be no connection to the Whittier government which would deny they even existed. If caught, they knew they would be killed. But their cause was just and righteous.
Whatever we laugh at you all you commies try to do! You say we make potato chips and soda pop! Ha! No we do not!
LONG LIVE EONOPOLIS!
And for your pitiful information, at this very moment the communist "movement" is being qaushed by not only Eonopolis, but it's allies.
Sincerely,
The Dear Leader General Dante Spano
Socialist Whittier
31-03-2006, 15:14
OOC: check this out, this thread is actually on google.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=socialist+whittier&btnG=Google+Search
Pythogria
31-03-2006, 15:51
OOC: Wow. It got there.
IC:
Pythogria condemns the actions of Socialist Whitter, and alerts them to the fact that should they attack Eonopolis, that they will be repulsed-- by us.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
31-03-2006, 16:07
MESSAGE TO PYTHOGRIA: TOP SECRET
Greetings ally. This is Rey Eduardo del San Acero, ruler of Edoniakistanbabweagua. I am pleased to inform you that my country will be sending supplies to you via tanker, the Diamondback. We hope that this will assist you in any upcoming war and I will continue to supply you nation as long as need. You may also share these supplies with the nations that are involved with this sanction. Our position is neutral, but we will help you if attacked.
Good luck as to I hope this will not turn into a war.
Rey Eduardo del San Acero, ruler of Edoniakistanbabweagua
Bobghanistan
31-03-2006, 16:09
The Glorious El Presidente Bobski of Bobghanistan gives his whole-hearted support to Eonopolis in their battle against Commies. We know of the trouble that Communists can cause and we support any and all means that are used to prevent the spread of Communism.
We are prepared to offer vast amounts of humanitarian and military aid to Eonopolis in their fight against the evil Reds. We are preparing a small detachment of 1000 of our C-17 transport aircraft to airlift whatever supplies Eonopolis requests. Each of these aircraft will be escorted by 2 F-22 Raptors and 2 Typhoon F.2s, just in case any commies try to interfere.
Should any nation decide to intervene militarily against our Eonopolian friends, they will be met with the full force of the Greater Bobghan military.
Eonopolis
31-03-2006, 21:08
Bobghanistan,
We thank you brother nation! You and other nations show how important it is to stop the red menace harming the lives of everyone as it spreads around this proud capitalist world.
Down with Communism!
Long Live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Edoniakistanbabweagua
31-03-2006, 21:17
===TO THE HONORABLE EONOPOLIS===
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As ruler of the Dominion of Edoniakistanbabweagua, I do not completely agree with the methods of getting rid of the communists. However, you are the ally of Pythogria and thus I want to extend to you a peaceful trade pact to allow resources to be HALO dropped to your country by our S-18's as well as supplies via navy. We will continue to assist you in defense against the sanctions upon your country
Rey Eduardo del San Acero
Ruler of the Dominion of Edoniakistanbabweagua
Socialist Whittier
31-03-2006, 21:34
Bobghanistan,
We thank you brother nation! You and other nations show how important it is to stop the red menace harming the lives of everyone as it spreads around this proud capitalist world.
Down with Communism!
Long Live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
did you get my telegram?
Official Imperial Communique
To Eonopolis
We condemn the threats and sanctions which the communists have placed against you, and will support you economically. I am afraid we will not be able to support you militarily due to problems we are having abroad, but we will give you any supplies you may need. We hope you succeed in your struggle against the communist threat.
Eonopolis
01-04-2006, 22:02
===TO THE HONORABLE EONOPOLIS===
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As ruler of the Dominion of Edoniakistanbabweagua, I do not completely agree with the methods of getting rid of the communists. However, you are the ally of Pythogria and thus I want to extend to you a peaceful trade pact to allow resources to be HALO dropped to your country by our S-18's as well as supplies via navy. We will continue to assist you in defense against the sanctions upon your country
Rey Eduardo del San Acero
Ruler of the Dominion of Edoniakistanbabweagua
Brother nation of edoniakistanbabweagua and cravan, the nation of Eonopolis thanks you!
Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
H-Town Tejas
01-04-2006, 22:49
ENCRYPTED MESSAGE TO SOCIALIST WHITTIER
The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas support your sanctions against the fascist nation of Eonopolis, and would like to help out in any way possible. However, since their bumbling leader has somehow made allies of powerful nations, the PRH-TT would appreciate if you kept our aid on the low. As mentioned before, though, we want to help in any way possible, so just tell me if you need help with this.
Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister
Madnestan
01-04-2006, 22:57
Madnestan refuses to continue trade and diplomatic relations with nations that decide to take part in this unjustified trade embargo against our trusted ally, People's Republic of Eonopolis.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
Bobghanistan
03-04-2006, 13:09
Bobghanistan,
We thank you brother nation! You and other nations show how important it is to stop the red menace harming the lives of everyone as it spreads around this proud capitalist world.
Down with Communism!
Long Live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
The 1st, 3rd, 5th and 9th Bobghan Carrier Strike Groups have set sail from Bobghanistan to support the great nation of Eonopolis in whatever means necessary. If required, we are also prepared to provide an Aerial Supremacy Legion in order to 'dissuade' unfriendly nations from performing espionage flights over Eonopolis.
Madnestan
03-04-2006, 13:22
OOC: Just BTW, his country is filled with foreign troops from atleast three nations, and is lanlocked.
Socialist Whittier
03-04-2006, 13:42
Top Secret:
Amanda and Matt boarded the cruiseship was to take them to a neutral nation. From there they would take another cruise ship to Eonopolis to "see the sights". They had been given a wad of cash in US currency, and American checks with access to about $25 million, money to be used to gain information. They now John and Jane. And they looked like Eonopolians.
Bobghanistan
03-04-2006, 18:28
OOC: Just BTW, his country is filled with foreign troops from atleast three nations, and is lanlocked.
OOC: Hence Aircraft Carriers. Nothing like a bit of force projection! I'm also not sending any troops at present. I have enough combat and transport aircraft to lend support in those ways alone.
IC: The El Presidente has authorised me to invite the leaders of Eonopolis and all other opponents of the Commie menace that infests our world to a Summit in Skaro City, the capital of Bobghanistan. At this summit we shall discuss what action to take against Communism and also how we might share intelligence in order to better counter Commie infiltrators.
This great Summit shall be marked by a military parade of 1 million of His Excellency's most loyal troops, a flypast of a small number of GBAF aircraft, say 20,000 or so, that will be followed by a grand banquet. A public holiday has been declared for all in Bobghanistan to witness this great event.
T. Selleck: Minister in Charge of Manliness - Hairy Chest and 'Tache Division
Eonopolis
15-04-2006, 19:50
ENCRYPTED MESSAGE TO SOCIALIST WHITTIER
The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas support your sanctions against the fascist nation of Eonopolis, and would like to help out in any way possible. However, since their bumbling leader has somehow made allies of powerful nations, the PRH-TT would appreciate if you kept our aid on the low. As mentioned before, though, we want to help in any way possible, so just tell me if you need help with this.
Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister
We are powerful, yes indeed. The nation of Eonopolis is proud in it's fight against communism!
Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear And Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 19:52
If any of you attack Eonopolis, I wil luse my KAbalt Orbital Cannons. it's that simple. Oh, and I'm trading with him. So really, your sanctions are not affecting him.
Eonopolis
15-04-2006, 19:53
OOC: Hence Aircraft Carriers. Nothing like a bit of force projection! I'm also not sending any troops at present. I have enough combat and transport aircraft to lend support in those ways alone.
IC: The El Presidente has authorised me to invite the leaders of Eonopolis and all other opponents of the Commie menace that infests our world to a Summit in Skaro City, the capital of Bobghanistan. At this summit we shall discuss what action to take against Communism and also how we might share intelligence in order to better counter Commie infiltrators.
This great Summit shall be marked by a military parade of 1 million of His Excellency's most loyal troops, a flypast of a small number of GBAF aircraft, say 20,000 or so, that will be followed by a grand banquet. A public holiday has been declared for all in Bobghanistan to witness this great event.
T. Selleck: Minister in Charge of Manliness - Hairy Chest and 'Tache Division
OCC: Sorry, family emergency wasn't around here lately.
To our Friend Bobghanistan,
We accept your invitation with glee (T-Gram us with more info please).
Communism shall die!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Eonopolis
15-04-2006, 19:53
If any of you attack Eonopolis, I wil luse my KAbalt Orbital Cannons. it's that simple. Oh, and I'm trading with him. So really, your sanctions are not affecting him.
Indeed, thank you brother nation Pythogria!
Pythogria
15-04-2006, 19:55
Indeed, thank you brother nation Pythogria!
No problem. We're against Communism, after all.
(Althogh, Socialism does work.)
Eonopolis
16-04-2006, 00:31
No problem. We're against Communism, after all.
(Althogh, Socialism does work.)
Eonopolis has no problem with socialism, although we do not practice it ourselves.
We take issue with the Red Menace of Communism that must be stopped at all cost.
Down with Communism!
Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Socialist Whittier
16-04-2006, 18:44
If Eonopolis had no problem with socialists then why does it boast of killing communists. When you boast of persecution of communists, it means that you are also killing socialists. Regardless, you actions against the communists of your nation was serious violation of human rights.
Our government simply refuses to recognize your government and all trade between our nations remains banned.
If Eonopolis had no problem with socialists then why does it boast of killing communists. When you boast of persecution of communists, it means that you are also killing socialists. Regardless, you actions against the communists of your nation was serious violation of human rights.
Our government simply refuses to recognize your government and all trade between our nations remains banned.
(OOC: Actually, it doesn't. Solcialism and Communism, although similiar in some ways, are two completely different ideologies. Communism is far more extreme in its programs and measures. For a socialist nation, I'm surprised you didn't know this.)
Pythogria
16-04-2006, 18:55
If Eonopolis had no problem with socialists then why does it boast of killing communists. When you boast of persecution of communists, it means that you are also killing socialists. Regardless, you actions against the communists of your nation was serious violation of human rights.
Our government simply refuses to recognize your government and all trade between our nations remains banned.
Very well. He never needed your trade anyway.
And no right says, "Right to riot." In his nation he is perfectly within the law. You may not agree with it, but it's his nation. Now goodbye, and don't come back.
Eonopolis
16-04-2006, 19:01
Socialist Whittier:
Eonopolis scoffs at your nations inability to recognize the basic philosophy that your nation is based on!
Down with Communism!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Socialist Whittier
17-04-2006, 14:28
(OOC: Actually, it doesn't. Solcialism and Communism, although similiar in some ways, are two completely different ideologies. Communism is far more extreme in its programs and measures. For a socialist nation, I'm surprised you didn't know this.)
OOC: I already knew that in rl. I posted that to advance the rp. The problem is that Whittier is actually a socialist nation which as you noted is less extreme than a communist nation. What I've done is introduce some miscommunication between governments. So at this point, when you talk about killing commies, whittier thinks you are talking about killing socialists too, cause in many parts of the world, most people don't know there is difference. So when they talk about killing commies, they lump the socialists in with the commies. Americans are notorious for this so I got the idea from them. But that is because most Americans are very knowledgable about things political. That is why the US vote rate is so low. Most Americans don't vote in rl and they don't really care.
I don't know if that makes sense to you.
Socialist Whittier
17-04-2006, 14:30
Very well. He never needed your trade anyway.
And no right says, "Right to riot." In his nation he is perfectly within the law. You may not agree with it, but it's his nation. Now goodbye, and don't come back.
OOC: was that last part meant to be ic or ooc?
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 16:25
OOC: was that last part meant to be ic or ooc?
OOC: IC. I always mark OOC.
Socialist Whittier
18-04-2006, 16:09
OOC: IC. I always mark OOC.
OOC: Ok.
IC: The UPR has no plans to invade Eonopolis. But we will not trade with them. They are guilty of violating the fundamental laws of human rights.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 16:10
OOC: Ok.
IC: The UPR has no plans to invade Eonopolis. But we will not trade with them. They are guilty of violating the fundamental laws of human rights.
The breakup of a riot by non-lethal means, or lethal means if needed, is not a crime of human rights. Oh, and defie, "human rights" internationally.
Socialist Whittier
18-04-2006, 16:16
The breakup of a riot by non-lethal means, or lethal means if needed, is not a crime of human rights. Oh, and defie, "human rights" internationally.
They said they killed people just for being communist. That is a crime against humanity. We will only be satisfied when Eonopolis agrees to let an international team of inspectors inside their nation to examine their treatment of the communists. If, as they claim, they did nothing wrong, they should have no problem with international observers going inside their nation to see if their claims are true.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 16:17
They said they killed people just for being communist. That is a crime against humanity. We will only be satisfied when Eonopolis agrees to let an international team of inspectors inside their nation to examine their treatment of the communists. If, as they claim, they did nothing wrong, they should have no problem with international observers going inside their nation to see if their claims are true.
As far as I know, Eonopolis has committed no such crime. And perhaps you are just a little biased? If not utterly?
Now, I have to stand for his nation here. Leave him alone.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 17:16
Why to send any inspectors? There is no problem anymore. The traitors, those who stood up against the legitimate government, have been dealt with. Pythogrian and Madnestian security forces have cleaned the country, and the traitors, were they communists, fascists, socialists, whatever, are either dead or in the concentration camps.
There is nothing to inspect at this point, really.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 17:19
Why to send any inspectors? There is no problem anymore. The traitors, those who stood up against the legitimate government, have been dealt with. Pythogrian and Madnestian security forces have cleaned the country, and the traitors, were they communists, fascists, socialists, whatever, are either dead or in the concentration camps.
There is nothing to inspect at this point, really.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
No. The violent ones, I captured and tried. Very few are dead. And I only set up camps to get them away from your squares of barbed wire. Mine are just prisons.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 17:22
No. The violent ones, I captured and tried. Very few are dead. And I only set up camps to get them away from your squares of barbed wire. Mine are just prisons.
OOC: Didn't we agree to unite our camps? In that thread? I think we did, have to check it out though. And if we did, my troops did indeed do half of the guarding which means helluva lot of "attempts to escape", "attacks against guards" and "refusals to cooperate" etc...
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 17:23
OOC: Didn't we agree to unite our camps? In that thread? I think we did, have to check it out though. And if we did, my troops did indeed do half of the guarding which means helluva lot of "attempts to escape", "attacks against guards" and "refusals to cooperate" etc...
OOC: No, you gave your prisoners to me.
Madnestan
18-04-2006, 17:28
OOC: No, we agreed to cooperate and unite our camps, using your camps since you didn't like my simpler and cheaper solution. I never "gave" them to you. We obviously just misunderstood eachother. Regardles, there is nothing to inspect right?
It's like I said. They're either killed or in camps. Why are we debating?
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 17:29
OOC: No, we agreed to cooperate and unite our camps, using your camps since you didn't like my simpler and cheaper solution. I never "gave" them to you. We obviously just misunderstood eachother. Regardles, there is nothing to inspect right?
It's like I said. They're either killed or in camps. Why are we debating?
OOC: Well, the job is done.
SECRET IC TO MADNESTAN, AB, EONOPOLIS, ETC.:
I say we just ignore him, build the nation up again, and leave it be.
Shazbotdom
18-04-2006, 22:11
IC:
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT MESSAGE
TO: All Involved
FROM: Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
Although our government is a Democratic Socialist regeme, we believe that it is the sole right of a government to operate as they believe. We will not take any part in the blockade or the sanctions against the Nation of Eonopolis and will allow any travel from Eonopolis through our nation. We deplore that the nations in question find a peaceful solution to this and not push for any type of war, given it an economic war or a military war. We thank all governments involved for your time in reading this message.
Eonopolis
19-04-2006, 02:00
Eonopolis is a proud and valiant nation which takes ANY and ALL measures necessary to put down dissent from the Red Menace within our nations borders.
International inspectors will never be allowed in our nation, bah! We stand alone and proud alongside the brother and sister nations which so courageously fight with us.
Down with Communism! Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader Against the Red Menace and of Eonopolis the Great General Dante Spano
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 02:02
Eonopolis is a proud and valiant nation which takes ANY and ALL measures necessary to put down dissent from the Red Menace within our nations borders.
International inspectors will never be allowed in our nation, bah! We stand alone and proud alongside the brother and sister nations which so courageously fight with us.
Down with Communism! Long live Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader Against the Red Menace and of Eonopolis the Great General Dante Spano
---Secret---
I sggest you stop throwing insults from behind us. We will not protect you against an aggravated war.
Socialist Whittier
19-04-2006, 13:52
OOC: Since it's not clear what agreement you two had, I am just going to assume that some of them were killed and some of them are still stuck in your camps. It's reasonable to assume that POW's might try to escape, but not all of them.
Pythogria, your comments are sounding like they are directed at the person behind the nation, not the nation itself. I'm not saying they are, I'm just saying they are coming off that way.
IC:
To the government of Eonopolis, Madnestan, and Pythogria.
From Jeremy Mires, New Diplomatic Envoy
The other guy was fired cause he wasn't getting results.
Our government is prepared to end sanctions, if the remaining communists being held in your camps are allowed to leave for our country where they will be given refugee status. Of course we cannot accept any that have committed certain crimes such as murder of civilians, rape, maiming, and stuff like that. But we are asking that the rest be allowed to come to Whittier.
We are prepared to pay for their transport, visas, etc.
As for the ones who have committed real crimes:
if the crimes were serious, we cannot accept them.
if the crimes were minor, like stealing or espionage, we will accept them as refugees after they have done their time in your jails.
I don't know if my predecessor made you any offers but this what I am offering. All offers made by my predecessor are null and void.
Socialist Whittier
19-04-2006, 13:59
My government is prepared to reach settlement on this matter as we have other matters that require our attention.
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 14:59
OOC: Since it's not clear what agreement you two had, I am just going to assume that some of them were killed and some of them are still stuck in your camps. It's reasonable to assume that POW's might try to escape, but not all of them.
Pythogria, your comments are sounding like they are directed at the person behind the nation, not the nation itself. I'm not saying they are, I'm just saying they are coming off that way.
IC:
To the government of Eonopolis, Madnestan, and Pythogria.
From Jeremy Mires, New Diplomatic Envoy
The other guy was fired cause he wasn't getting results.
Our government is prepared to end sanctions, if the remaining communists being held in your camps are allowed to leave for our country where they will be given refugee status. Of course we cannot accept any that have committed certain crimes such as murder of civilians, rape, maiming, and stuff like that. But we are asking that the rest be allowed to come to Whittier.
We are prepared to pay for their transport, visas, etc.
As for the ones who have committed real crimes:
if the crimes were serious, we cannot accept them.
if the crimes were minor, like stealing or espionage, we will accept them as refugees after they have done their time in your jails.
I don't know if my predecessor made you any offers but this what I am offering. All offers made by my predecessor are null and void.
OOC: My nation tends to assume Communism often means "dictatorship". And if it is, that means there's one person to talk to, right?
IC:
Pythogria is prepared to accept this.
Socialist Whittier
19-04-2006, 15:17
OOC: My nation tends to assume Communism often means "dictatorship". And if it is, that means there's one person to talk to, right?
IC:
Pythogria is prepared to accept this.
OOC: well communism is pretty much a dictatorship, but its dictatorship of a small group than of an individual. But when you actually talking to the government's envoy, you are talking to one person.
I avoid confusion, but by referring to "your government" when I can. That way message gets to which ever official is responsible for the matter at hand. I think it is also part of the reason a lot of older nation's prefer character development rps. But if you haven't been around long enough to know whose who in the various governments on NS, it is less confusing to simply use the term "your government" until you learn more about the other nations' governments and their various officials.
Some people use their national leaders in all rps, I try to use diplomats and cabinet ministers and sometimes, average citizens though those are more complicated.
The leader only comes to announce if there is war, sanctions, or to condemn bad actions by other nations. Basically only for serious stuff.
IC:
Mr. Mires "I am pleased with the Pythogrian government's position on this matter. It is my hope that the governments of Madnestan and Eonopolis will recognize the virture of our offer as well."
Pythogria
19-04-2006, 15:23
OOC: well communism is pretty much a dictatorship, but its dictatorship of a small group than of an individual. But when you actually talking to the government's envoy, you are talking to one person.
I avoid confusion, but by referring to "your government" when I can. That way message gets to which ever official is responsible for the matter at hand. I think it is also part of the reason a lot of older nation's prefer character development rps. But if you haven't been around long enough to know whose who in the various governments on NS, it is less confusing to simply use the term "your government" until you learn more about the other nations' governments and their various officials.
Some people use their national leaders in all rps, I try to use diplomats and cabinet ministers and sometimes, average citizens though those are more complicated.
The leader only comes to announce if there is war, sanctions, or to condemn bad actions by other nations. Basically only for serious stuff.
IC:
Mr. Mires "I am pleased with the Pythogrian government's position on this matter. It is my hope that the governments of Madnestan and Eonopolis will recognize the virture of our offer as well."
OOC: I'll remember that.
Eonopolis
20-04-2006, 02:55
No deal.
Eonopolis is an independent nation that bows down to no demands of the international community.
Down with Communism!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Pythogria
20-04-2006, 17:53
Given Eonopolis's newest edict by it's new agency, Pythogria has joined in sanctions against Eonopolis.
Socialist Whittier
20-04-2006, 23:43
No deal.
Eonopolis is an independent nation that bows down to no demands of the international community.
Down with Communism!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
The Union of People's Republics regrets your decision.
Due to a recent policy Eonopolis has enacted which is a blatant act of discrimination on those which can cause no harm to the government, all trade has ceased between our nations. Cravan will not intervene if the Communists and Socialists take action against Eonopolis.
Eonopolis
21-04-2006, 17:45
Due to a recent policy Eonopolis has enacted which is a blatant act of discrimination on those which can cause no harm to the government, all trade has ceased between our nations. Cravan will not intervene if the Communists and Socialists take action against Eonopolis.
As if we were trading with your plague embattered, hellhole pit that you call a "nation"
Down with Enemies of Spanoism and Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Edoniakistanbabweagua
21-04-2006, 17:56
As if we were trading with your plague embattered, hellhole pit that you call a "nation"
Down with Enemies of Spanoism and Eonopolis!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
TO THE ESTEEMED RULER OF EONOPOLIS: PRIORITY ALERT
The Edoniakistanbabweaguan Dominion would like to say that although we will supply you with resources, we ask that you reconsider Socialist Whitter's proposal about the exodus of the communists to his country. In this way, the communists will be out of your country and you will no longer have to deal with them. We also ask that you may refrain from insulting other countries as that will only worsen the situation. I truely hope that you can see how this plan will help both sides in this sanction.
Respectfully Yours,
Datijao Eduardo del San Acero
Shazbotdom
21-04-2006, 18:21
OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION
To: Leadership of Eonopolis
From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
I have no clue why you have a political agenda against other nations. The Empire itself does not have anything against you. Other nations dont' have anything against you, except your policies, and you blatantly badmouth anyone who doesn't agree with you. I also don't understand why you say that you can take on other nations, when your nation is rather weak compared to others. I will take my nation for example. My GDP Per Capita is almost 14 times larger than yours. My Defence budget is more than 70 times yours.
Do you really think that if you pick fights with much larger nations that you will win? All we are doing is saying that we don't agree with your policies and you call our nations a "plague embattered, hellhole pit" when your nation is a lot worse off than ours is. I suggest that you watch what you say before it gets you into a lot of trouble.
Eonopolis
22-04-2006, 01:55
I find it funny that you weaklings think that merely placing sanctions on our powerful nation will hurt us.
Spanoism and Eonopolis Forever!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Pythogria
22-04-2006, 01:56
I find it funny that you weaklings think that merely placing sanctions on our powerful nation will hurt us.
Spanoism and Eonopolis Forever!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
OOC: yo udo realize without my trade you would be, in effect, screwed, right?
Shazbotdom
22-04-2006, 02:14
OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION
To: Leadership of Eonopolis
From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
It is you who are mistaken if you think that your nation is strong. Your economy is labeled as "weak" while mine fluctuates between "Thriving" and "Powerhouse". I would watch your tone little nation. My military is almost as large as the entirety of your nations population. I suggest that you decist from calling other nations "plague embattered, hellhole pit" when your nation isn't that good itself.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
22-04-2006, 03:15
I find it funny that you weaklings think that merely placing sanctions on our powerful nation will hurt us.
Spanoism and Eonopolis Forever!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
TO THE ESTEEMED RULER OF EONOPOLIS: PRIORITY ALERT
We are still continuing to send you resources. However, as your ally, we kindly ask you to please consider the plan given to you by Socialist Whittler. It will help all the nations and the people to end this sanction and not harm the lives of anyone.
Respectfully Yours,
Datijao Eduardo del San Acero
Madnestan
22-04-2006, 03:49
OOC: yo udo realize without my trade you would be, in effect, screwed, right?
OOC: How come? I dare to claim to be his main trading partner at the moment.
Pythogria
22-04-2006, 04:21
OOC: How come? I dare to claim to be his main trading partner at the moment.
OOC: Well, at very least, it won't be lucrative.
Northford
22-04-2006, 15:51
Due to your treatment of our allies, the Pythogrians, and Craven, our esteemed international partner, Northford has deemed that you are to be banned trade with us henceforth.
While we may not have any official trade agreements, all private citizens of Northford have, from this moment on, banned from trading with you.
Furthermore, we are banning any ship flying your colours in our ports, including the new Red Bridge developement.
Any ship breaching this bann will be treated hostile, and sunk.
OOC: Dude, tone down the insults..,.
Eonopolis
22-04-2006, 22:04
Northford,
I laugh at the stupidity of all nations who still believe Eonopolis is surrounded by a large body of water, idiots!
Long live Madnestan!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Northford
22-04-2006, 22:33
Umm.. I hate to break it to you, but just because you're land locked, it doesn't mean you don't have shipping.
I presume that private citizens are allowed to own ships, even if they are not based in your country.
Or is the owning of a boat banned if you're landlocked?
Pythogria
22-04-2006, 22:36
Northford,
I laugh at the stupidity of all nations who still believe Eonopolis is surrounded by a large body of water, idiots!
Long live Madnestan!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Eonopolis,
We laugh at the stupidity of your leadership.
May Eonopolis Meet an Unspeakable and Bad Fate,
Supreme General Khonsu Izakabad
Madnestan
22-04-2006, 22:41
Khonsu and Dante, I also laugh since I'm happy to see how you're both having fun despite all this debate and disagreement!
Never underestimate the power of humor!
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Armed Republic of Madnestan
Pythogria
22-04-2006, 22:41
Khonsu and Dante, I also laugh since I'm happy to see how you're both having fun despite all this debate and disagreement!
Never underestimate the power of humor!
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Armed Republic of Madnestan
I must agree.
Eonopolis
22-04-2006, 23:10
Umm.. I hate to break it to you, but just because you're land locked, it doesn't mean you don't have shipping.
I presume that private citizens are allowed to own ships, even if they are not based in your country.
Or is the owning of a boat banned if you're landlocked?
OOC: Don't know if I'm getting the message across to you all but Eonopolis is a totalitarian kinda fascist leaning regime, yes boat owning is banned damnit.
Pythogria,
It gives us great pleasure to see you angry!
Come friends, Eonopolis has done nothing to deserve this!
Up with Madnestand! Long live Eonopolis and Spanoistic Thought!
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Eonopolis
22-04-2006, 23:10
I must agree.
OOC: hmmmm....
Madnestan
22-04-2006, 23:12
OOC: Eonopolis, do you happen to have MSN? If you do, care to TG it to me or something? I'd like to chat with ya a bit.
Pythogria
23-04-2006, 01:12
OOC: Don't know if I'm getting the message across to you all but Eonopolis is a totalitarian kinda fascist leaning regime, yes boat owning is banned damnit.
Pythogria,
It gives us great pleasure to see you angry!
Come friends, Eonopolis has done nothing to deserve this!
Up with Madnestand! Long live Eonopolis and Spanoistic Thought!
Sincerely,
The Dear Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
OOC: got it a long time ago.
Secret IC:
"John, I think I know what we're going to do."
"What?"
"We're going to send Spano an... eMail."
"Sir, you aren't seriously considering..."
"Yes. I am. Send it."
An eMail was sent to Spano's personal computer. It contained 2 GB of anonymous viruses. The bast part? Untaracable.
Eonopolis
23-04-2006, 21:48
Dante Spano has no primative computers!
Pythogria, get a grip my former friend!
Long live Eonopolis! Down with the Red Menace and the Homosexual Order!
Sincerely,
The Dear and Eternal Leader General Dante Spano
Socialist Whittier
01-05-2006, 23:50
As our offer has been rejected, we have no choice but to continue sanctions against Eonopolis.
We request a meeting of nations to consult on our next course of action.
The Horde Of Doom
02-05-2006, 00:06
OOC: theres always war...
Socialist Whittier
02-05-2006, 00:31
OOC: I was thinking more of a ban his leaders ever leaving his nation, and a ban on aircraft entering or leaving his nation. Any aircraft violating the ban would escorted to an airfield where the plane would be impounded and the pilots/passengers fined and jailed.
Planes that refuse to go to the airfield would be shot down.
Bobghanistan
02-05-2006, 10:34
OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION
To: Leadership of Eonopolis
From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
It is you who are mistaken if you think that your nation is strong. Your economy is labeled as "weak" while mine fluctuates between "Thriving" and "Powerhouse". I would watch your tone little nation. My military is almost as large as the entirety of your nations population. I suggest that you decist from calling other nations "plague embattered, hellhole pit" when your nation isn't that good itself.
Your threats against our ally have been noted. Please be aware that his airspace is protected by the Greater Bobghan Air Force. We are also not bound, unlike yourselves, by UN resolutions banning the use of certain weapons.
OOC: I was thinking more of a ban his leaders ever leaving his nation, and a ban on aircraft entering or leaving his nation. Any aircraft violating the ban would escorted to an airfield where the plane would be impounded and the pilots/passengers fined and jailed.
Planes that refuse to go to the airfield would be shot down.
Aircraft flying to and from Eonopolis are under the protection of the GBAF. Any and all aircraft attempting to disrupt the free flow of air traffic to and from Eonopolis will be intercepted by Bobghan fighters. If any aircraft are shot down whilst attempting to exercise their right to free passage, then the GBAF will respond.
OOC: To anyone and everyone, please note that the Greater Bobghan military represents Greater Bobghanistan, an entity that encompasses both Bobghanistan and its protectorate of Fostralia, with their combined populations and resources, and NOT Bobghanistan alone.
Madnestan
02-05-2006, 13:33
OOC: People, please! Eonopolis and Whittier should be compared to, what, China and Rwanda? Russia and Tahiti? Except that both of those have more civilian airplanes...
Shazbotdom
02-05-2006, 15:38
Your threats against our ally have been noted. Please be aware that his airspace is protected by the Greater Bobghan Air Force. We are also not bound, unlike yourselves, by UN resolutions banning the use of certain weapons.
OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION
To: Leadership of Bobghanistan
From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
So you would defend a nation that has attacked someone for no reason? I guess that you are just as facist as he is when it comes to your international policy. If he so much as attacks a nation allied with the Empire, we will retaliate, no matter what.
Madnestan
02-05-2006, 16:25
I would like to point out that Bobghanistan responded to your threat against Eonopolis, and in that threat you did not speak about any agressions of that country, but the way of their leader, General Spano, spoke.
"I would watch your tone little nation. My military is almost as large as the entirety of your nations population. I suggest that you decist from calling other nations "plague embattered, hellhole pit" when your nation isn't that good itself.", Like you said it.
However, I haven't seen anyone attacking anywhere, no blood has been shed, so all this nonsense about war should be, in my humble opinion, ceased for now and saved for more serious situations.
This applies to not only Shazbotdom and Bobghanistan, but others too.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything in
The Heavily Armed Republic of Madnestan
Edoniakistanbabweagua
02-05-2006, 16:57
TO THE RULER OF EONOPOLIS
Due to your inability to compromise with this situation and the danger of open war with my people in it, I am hereby removing all aid from your country. Edoniakistanbabweagua will not be apart of either side unless our allies require our help.
Datijao Eduardo del San Acero
Bobghanistan
02-05-2006, 20:17
OFFICIAL PROCLIMATION
To: Leadership of Bobghanistan
From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
So you would defend a nation that has attacked someone for no reason? I guess that you are just as facist as he is when it comes to your international policy. If he so much as attacks a nation allied with the Empire, we will retaliate, no matter what.
Eonopolis has attacked with words, not military aggression. His actions against terrorists and dissidents in his own country is no concern of anybody but him. However, since interfering commie nations seem hell-bent on making what is effectively an internal issue into an international incident, then we feel obligated to assist in their defence.
We in Bobghanistan will support no aggression by either side. We will not join in any unprovoked aggression by Eonopolis. Should he initiate hostilities through unprovoked aggression, then we will withdraw our support. However, we will protect the right of Eonopolis to free trade with whomever wishes to trade with him, without the interference of nations who have no right to do so. We will also assist in the protection of his sovereign borders should they be violated without due provocation.
We were not the first to use military threats in this dispute, and we would like nothing more than to find a diplomatic solution. However, it should be noted that we are ready to defend ourselves and our allies should the need arise.
The government of His Imperail Majesty the Kaiser wishes for it to be known that Imperail and CPS (Co-Prosperity Sphere) forces stand shoulder to shoulder with our Bobghan allies and with the sovereign state of Eononpolis.
We cannot stand by and watch Leftist hoardes impose thier bankrupt ideology on a state that wishes simply internal order. To do so would blot the honourable name of Leeasia, the Alliance, and the House of Jenkins
Following a meeting with the Viceroy of our vassel state Nova Leeasia, the Chiefs of the Imperial Defence Staff were ordered to make ready a Stabilty Encouragment Group to maintain peace and order for the embattled people of Eonopolis.
Bobghanistan
15-05-2006, 21:58
We welcome our Leeasian Allies on the side of right, freedom and above all common sense.
Long live capitalism, Eonopolis, Bobghanistan, Leeasia and the Grand Alliance!