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E20: New Foreign Possessions Thread

Cylea
25-03-2006, 00:10
Maps of the World in E20 can be found below. Please post any corrections that need to be made or suggestions for improvement. I will attempt to answer them as soon as possible.

Oh, and if you dont know what E20 is, go here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472407

The E20 Year (as of May 8, 2006) is 1958


Main E20 World Map: (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20Worldmapforposting11.png)

Map of PC Nations: (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20Playersmapforposting5.png)

Zoomed-in Map of Europe: (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20EuropeMapforposting2.png)

Zoomed-in Map of East Asia: (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20PacificMapforposting4.png)



And of course, the link to the old thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428273
Cylea
25-03-2006, 00:13
Membership in the British Commonwealth of Nations: (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20CommonwealthMapforposting5.png)

Members of the Seoul Conference Treaty (SCT): (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20MapofSCTnationsforposting1.png)

Members of the Arab League: (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/ArabLeagueMapforposting.png)

Members of the European Economic Community (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/EECMapforposting.png)

To Come:
--Misc Space Alliances
--any other pacts i have missed?

If anybody wants their organization on a map, just TG me or post what nations are a member of it and I will try to get it added.
The Lightning Star
25-03-2006, 00:38
Sweet World Map :D

I have a recommendation, though; why not save your picture files as .PNG files? As you have probably noticed, JPEG pictures aren't that high quality, while BMP pictures are too large. PNG pictures are small (a picture that would be 1 meg with BMP is only like 100k with PNG), and it is of fairly high quality.
Cylea
25-03-2006, 01:26
Sweet World Map :D

I have a recommendation, though; why not save your picture files as .PNG files? As you have probably noticed, JPEG pictures aren't that high quality, while BMP pictures are too large. PNG pictures are small (a picture that would be 1 meg with BMP is only like 100k with PNG), and it is of fairly high quality.

Best Idea ever--thanks.

Should be done switching those all out in the next few minutes.
The Lightning Star
25-03-2006, 01:36
Best Idea ever--thanks.

Should be done switching those all out in the next few minutes.

The thing is, though, that you can't convert them from JPEG files, unfortunatly. You have to convert them from BMP files, or else they keep the JPEG's wonderful quality.

But I see you switched 'em out OK, and they're pretty darn fine looking, if you ask me :)
The Lightning Star
25-03-2006, 01:42
Also; I thought Russia was split up into successor states. I must be wrong, though.

*shrugs*
Galveston Bay
25-03-2006, 01:49
Also; I thought Russia was split up into successor states. I must be wrong, though.

*shrugs*

you are, the US made a point to keep Russia intact, it was the Union that split up
The Lightning Star
25-03-2006, 02:44
you are, the US made a point to keep Russia intact, it was the Union that split up

Ah, I see.

Why didn't you guys split Russia up, though?

Also also (I have alot of questions, eh? :p) When did Liberia get absorbed into the United Kingdom?
Cylea
25-03-2006, 03:05
Ah, I see.

Why didn't you guys split Russia up, though?

Also also (I have alot of questions, eh? :p) When did Liberia get absorbed into the United Kingdom?

Questions are fine. That one is a mistake--I'll get it fixed.
Malkyer
25-03-2006, 03:09
Nice map.

One question: Why are South Africa's colonies listed as PC nations, but no other colonies are?
Cylea
25-03-2006, 03:11
Nice map.

One question: Why are South Africa's colonies listed as PC nations, but no other colonies are?

In general, I was under the impression that they were closer to being absorbed directly by your nation than other colonies were. I can change them back if you would prefer.
Malkyer
25-03-2006, 03:13
In general, I was under the impression that they were closer to being absorbed directly by your nation than other colonies were. I can change them back if you would prefer.

Don't worry about changing them, I was just curious. They are essentially part of South Africa in all but name, after all.
Cylea
25-03-2006, 03:16
Don't worry about changing them, I was just curious. They are essentially part of South Africa in all but name, after all.

cool-thats sort of what i guessed. I just wanted to give you the option since a) people should have some say in what their nation looks like on the map and b) i was about to change the map anyway (i forgot to add the aral sea to that one)
Galveston Bay
25-03-2006, 05:23
Ah, I see.

Why didn't you guys split Russia up, though?

Also also (I have alot of questions, eh? :p) When did Liberia get absorbed into the United Kingdom?

a peaceful democratic and strong Russia suited US plans for postwar balance of power, and since the US Army, along with the South Africans and British and Scandic Union actually conquered Russia, the US was in position to get its way.

Now the US and Russia have a mutual defense treaty.

evil grin

anyone ever read Jerry Pournelle?
Malkyer
25-03-2006, 05:32
anyone ever read Jerry Pournelle?

Oh snaps! Not the CoDominium!

And I don't even have the space travel capability to colonize Frystaat...
Galveston Bay
25-03-2006, 05:34
Oh snaps! Not the CoDominium!

And I don't even have the space travel capability to colonize Frystaat...

that was the original plan, before the player involved left in a huff
Malkyer
25-03-2006, 07:16
that was the original plan, before the player involved left in a huff

Well, we've got the French Foreign Legion, so we at least have the precursor to the Line Marines...
Lesser Ribena
25-03-2006, 23:08
Just a note on independence of British colonies for you:

Britain officially announces that by the next years (1952) end the following nations will have full and complete independence from the UK:

The Gambia
Nigeria
Ghana
Senegal
Togo

The above countries have essentially been self governing for a while now and should have enough experience of it to become successful nations. They will, of course, be offered membership in the Commonwealth of Nations.

In addition the following countries will unite with Kalimantan and Sulawesi to forma new nation at the end of 1953. Until then they will nominally have dominion status as a group allowing them to function autominally until independence:
Malaya
Singapore

In addition Sierra Leone is given status as a "Special Autonomous Region" for want of a better name and given autonomous rule, though still reportable to Britain and technically still British soil. This is to avoid any complications in relation to the ESA base.
Cylea
26-03-2006, 01:09
Just a note on independence of British colonies for you:

Britain officially announces that by the next years (1952) end the following nations will have full and complete independence from the UK:

The Gambia
Nigeria
Ghana
Senegal
Togo

The above countries have essentially been self governing for a while now and should have enough experience of it to become successful nations. They will, of course, be offered membership in the Commonwealth of Nations.

In addition the following countries will unite with Kalimantan and Sulawesi to forma new nation at the end of 1953. Until then they will nominally have dominion status as a group allowing them to function autominally until independence:
Malaya
Singapore

In addition Sierra Leone is given status as a "Special Autonomous Region" for want of a better name and given autonomous rule, though still reportable to Britain and technically still British soil. This is to avoid any complications in relation to the ESA base.

Thanks for the update. Do you have any ideas for the name of the nation that will have Malaya, Singapore (the assumed capital) and Kalimantan/Sulawesi? I was thinking maybe "Greater Malyasia" but any other suggestions would be nice.
New Dornalia
26-03-2006, 02:13
Thanks for the update. Do you have any ideas for the name of the nation that will have Malaya, Singapore (the assumed capital) and Kalimantan/Sulawesi? I was thinking maybe "Greater Malyasia" but any other suggestions would be nice.

Technically in RL, the name Malaysia was inaugurated to cover the new nation made up of Sabah, Sarawak, Malaya and Singapore, so the name Malaysia itself would be fine (though with Kalimantan/Sulawesi, it might be a little different). Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia on that:

In 1961, the Tunku mooted the idea of forming "Malaysia", which would consist of Singapore, Sabah, Sarawak and Brunei, all of which were then British colonies. The reasoning behind this was that this would allow the central government to control and combat communist activities, especially in Singapore. It was also feared that if Singapore achieved independence, it would become a base for Chinese chauvinists to threaten Malayan sovereignty. To balance out the ethnic composition of the new nation, the other states, whose Malay and indigenous populations would balance out the Singaporean Chinese majority, were also included. [1]

Although Singaporean Chief Minister Lee Kuan Yew supported the proposal, his opponents from the Singaporean Socialist Front resisted, arguing that this was a ploy for the British to continue controlling the region. Most political parties in Sarawak were also against the merger, and in Sabah, where there were no political parties, community representatives also stated their opposition. Although the Sultan of Brunei supported the merger, the Parti Rakyat Brunei opposed it as well. At the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in 1961, the Tunku explained his proposal further to its opponents. In October, he obtained agreement from the British government to the plan, provided that feedback be obtained from the communities involved in the merger. The Cobbold Commission, named after its head, Lord Cobbold, conducted a study in the Borneo territories and approved a merger with Sabah and Sarawak; however, it was found that a substantial number of Bruneians opposed merger. A referendum was conducted in Singapore to gauge opinion, and 70% supported merger with substantial autonomy given to the state government. [2] [3]
Elephantum
26-03-2006, 02:32
Out of curiosity, are Bahrain and Qatar part of the UK, Oman, Saudi Arabia, each other (Qatar conquered Bahrain once, and ended up moving the capital there, then the Qataris kicked them out of Qatar, probably one of the only cases of the conqueror seceding from the conquered), or both separate nations?
Galveston Bay
26-03-2006, 10:24
Out of curiosity, are Bahrain and Qatar part of the UK, Oman, Saudi Arabia, each other (Qatar conquered Bahrain once, and ended up moving the capital there, then the Qataris kicked them out of Qatar, probably one of the only cases of the conqueror seceding from the conquered), or both separate nations?

Oman managed to get both during the Third Great War (thus giving it some oil along with the rest of the UAE oil)
Kordo
26-03-2006, 17:24
tag
Cylea
26-03-2006, 22:17
LR, will Brunei be joining Malaya, Singapore, and north Indonesia in forming Malaysia?
Koryan
27-03-2006, 01:31
Palestine's joined the United Republics.
The Lightning Star
27-03-2006, 01:42
Palestine's joined the United Republics.

United Republics?
Koryan
27-03-2006, 01:45
The United Republics of Egypt and Sudan (the pan-Arabism confederation)
The Lightning Star
27-03-2006, 01:48
The United Republics of Egypt and Sudan (the pan-Arabism confederation)

OOoooOOOOoooOOOoooOOOOoooOOOoooOOOooooOOOoooOOOoooOOOohhhh.


I had a Pan-asian confederation. But then the west got all pissed off at me using a few chemical weapons and toppled the government, thus leading to it getting splintered...
[NS]Parthini
27-03-2006, 01:55
That and you had somethink like 7 big ethnicities and 5 major religions. Palestine and Egypt are homogenous and are both Sunni. It's more like Prussia and Hanover joining, whereas yours was like Russia, Germany, Finland, France, Spain, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Manchuria, Mongolia, Turkestan and Rumania joining.
Cylea
27-03-2006, 01:59
Palestine's joined the United Republics.

Thanks. I have that added to my map on this end, but I am waiting to post a new version until the dust has settled over any new borders in the FAS
Sharina
27-03-2006, 02:07
Mongolia and Tibet have officially re-joined China.

Mongolia = 1951.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10645834&postcount=196

Tibet = 1952.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10645900&postcount=197

I have approval for these.
Cylea
27-03-2006, 03:15
Mongolia and Tibet have officially re-joined China.

Mongolia = 1951.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10645834&postcount=196

Tibet = 1952.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10645900&postcount=197

I have approval for these.

Well, I'm not one to challenge approval. I'll take an IC sec to wish an congratulations from Australasia to China and its people on their rebirth from the ashes of what seemed at times to be constant war.

Now then, Mongolia was already shown as part of china. I will add Tibet on the next edition of the map, which will be up as soon as the borders in the former FAS become official.
Sharina
27-03-2006, 03:20
Well, I'm not one to challenge approval. I'll take an IC sec to wish an congratulations from Australasia to China and its people on their rebirth from the ashes of what seemed at times to be constant war.

Now then, Mongolia was already shown as part of china. I will add Tibet on the next edition of the map, which will be up as soon as the borders in the former FAS become official.

Thanks, much appreciated. :)
Cylea
27-03-2006, 18:10
LR, will Brunei be joining Malaya, Singapore, and north Indonesia in forming Malaysia?

Bump for response
Lesser Ribena
27-03-2006, 18:58
Sorry I must have missed that.

No, probably not. The Sultanate of Brunei has a long history of independence and turned down a RL opportunity to do so in the 50's and 60's.

So they'll stay as part of the Empire for now, but will be amongst the next batch of independent states, alongside Eastern Africa and anywhere else outside of the Pacific and Carribean Islands.
Cylea
27-03-2006, 20:16
works for me. Once the new borders in the FAS are set the new map will be ready then.
Cylea
31-03-2006, 04:51
New Map for late 1952 posted--includes chinese annexation of tibet, independence of british commonwealth nations, Indonesia, and Malaysia.
Sharina
31-03-2006, 05:02
New Map for late 1952 posted--includes chinese annexation of tibet, independence of british commonwealth nations, Indonesia, and Malaysia.

China's starting to look sexy. Haha. :p
Canadstein
31-03-2006, 05:12
Ok on the front page the first map has a purple country underneath Russia. What is the name of the purple country?
Sharina
31-03-2006, 05:24
Ok on the front page the first map has a purple country underneath Russia. What is the name of the purple country?

Central Asian Republic (all the "-stan" nations merged into one nation)

A side note:

We do need a map key so people will know the names of each nation and what color they correspond to. This could be done in a seperate picture file so not to detract from the quality of the E20 map by cluttering the map itself with color keys.
Galveston Bay
31-03-2006, 06:16
what is the current status of FAS occupied Afghanistan and Persia?
Sharina
31-03-2006, 07:44
what is the current status of FAS occupied Afghanistan and Persia?

They're supposedly now the UIR (United Islamic Republics).
Galveston Bay
31-03-2006, 08:29
They're supposedly now the UIR (United Islamic Republics).

I have realism issues with that, but for now, the US is funding seperatist groups in Persia, Afghanistan, and the Hindu portions of India. (see US economic post for 1953)
The Lightning Star
31-03-2006, 12:54
I have realism issues with that, but for now, the US is funding seperatist groups in Persia, Afghanistan, and the Hindu portions of India. (see US economic post for 1953)

Wait; seperatist groups?!?! I thought they were just democratic parties! If I find out they are seperatist groups, they're going down. The people of the FAS want to avoid civil war at all costs, so the only way to take down seperatist groups is to do it fast and early.
The Lightning Star
31-03-2006, 12:56
They're supposedly now the UIR (United Islamic Republics).

They are indeed. If you look on the main thread, I'm trying to get Warta Endor to get on so I can finalize the borders.
Cylea
31-03-2006, 15:36
Central Asian Republic (all the "-stan" nations merged into one nation)

A side note:

We do need a map key so people will know the names of each nation and what color they correspond to. This could be done in a seperate picture file so not to detract from the quality of the E20 map by cluttering the map itself with color keys.

I'll get working on the map key this afternoon after classes. It's times like this that i find myself fully in favor of multiple annexations like the FNS and Scandic Union...
Elephantum
31-03-2006, 19:15
If you're in that sort of mood, what if large swaths of the middle east were"accidentally" made the same color as Syria (slides stack of cash under table)
Sharina
31-03-2006, 20:54
If you're in that sort of mood, what if large swaths of the middle east were"accidentally" made the same color as Syria (slides stack of cash under table)

LOL, I love that. :p
Galveston Bay
31-03-2006, 22:01
Wait; seperatist groups?!?! I thought they were just democratic parties! If I find out they are seperatist groups, they're going down. The people of the FAS want to avoid civil war at all costs, so the only way to take down seperatist groups is to do it fast and early.

ooc
try if you please... however, I do not accept that Persians and Afghanis are going to accept willingly continued Pakistani domination, nor do I think that the Hindus and Sikhs consider themselves countrymen of the Persians and Afghans, who have centuries of history invading and killing them.
The Lightning Star
31-03-2006, 22:02
Not so fast, guys. Aleady two such "superstates" have pretty much collapsed; the FAS and the USSR. I wouldn't be so anxious to start another one...
The Lightning Star
31-03-2006, 22:03
ooc
try if you please... however, I do not accept that Persians and Afghanis are going to accept willingly continued Pakistani domination, nor do I think that the Hindus and Sikhs consider themselves countrymen of the Persians and Afghans, who have centuries of history invading and killing them.

OOC: I meant Hindu separatist groups. The Persians and Afghani's are the UIR. There was a plebiscite, and the UIR voted 87% in favor of secedding, so we let them go. Now I'm trying to negotiate the border. I just need Warta Endor to get on...
Cylea
02-04-2006, 20:58
Map of World should be updated with the independence of the UIR, Indonesia, and Malyasia. The color key is in progress, (up through americas and most of africa) but may take some more time as this coming week is going to be pretty busy at school.

Also, big shout out to TLS for using a map of negotiations btwn FAS and UIR that fit exactly onto the one I was using. It made switching the borders sooo much easier.
The Lightning Star
02-04-2006, 21:20
Map of World should be updated with the independence of the UIR, Indonesia, and Malyasia. The color key is in progress, (up through americas and most of africa) but may take some more time as this coming week is going to be pretty busy at school.

Also, big shout out to TLS for using a map of negotiations btwn FAS and UIR that fit exactly onto the one I was using. It made switching the borders sooo much easier.

You are welcome. I figured it would be easier.
Cylea
03-04-2006, 04:40
PC map updated to include UIR, Mexico and Italy


i have far too much fun doing this...
[NS]Parthini
03-04-2006, 22:18
PC map updated to include UIR, Mexico and Italy


i have far too much fun doing this...

OOC: Maybe you should make a map that includes terrain and one that has economic and military alliances :p
Cylea
04-04-2006, 00:12
Parthini']OOC: Maybe you should make a map that includes terrain and one that has economic and military alliances :p

If I thought I could get away with a terrain map that looked good I would call you on it. I may put together a series of maps though of all the major Economic/Military alliances though.

::evil laugh of sickness::
Cylea
05-04-2006, 16:09
Map of the British Commonwealth is up. If anybody wants their alliance/organization on a map, just TG me or post what nations are a member of it here.
Ato-Sara
05-04-2006, 16:23
The following nations are in the SCT.

Empire of Korea
United South-East Asia
The Republic of China
The Republic of Pakistan
The Republic of the Phillipines
The Empire of Japan
The Union of Burma


Edit: and because I was bored I went and did it myself:

SCT Territory map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/E20WorldmapSCTterritory.png)
Cylea
05-04-2006, 18:48
The following nations are in the SCT.

Empire of Korea
United South-East Asia
The Republic of China
The Republic of Pakistan
The Republic of the Phillipines
The Empire of Japan
The Union of Burma


Edit: and because I was bored I went and did it myself:

SCT Territory map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/E20WorldmapSCTterritory.png)

very nice, and thanks. SCT is posted on the front page now.
Elephantum
05-04-2006, 18:56
Once I get a confirmed list of AL members I'll post it here. Italian N Africa may join, and I have to check on the status of a few nations (whats the status of Algeria?)
Galveston Bay
05-04-2006, 20:18
Once I get a confirmed list of AL members I'll post it here. Italian N Africa may join, and I have to check on the status of a few nations (whats the status of Algeria?)

ooc
Algeria is currently an NPC country (and a US ally) and has close relations with Morocco (also a US ally)
Cylea
14-04-2006, 02:05
all these plebecites are going to complicate matters...
Isochronous
14-04-2006, 03:39
Any chance I could RP Canada? Or any other nation for that matter? A conglomerate of Austria/Hungary/Netherlands perhaps?
Malkyer
14-04-2006, 03:47
You should telegram Sharina, our Chief Moderator, if you meet the requirements posted in the main thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472407
Cylea
14-04-2006, 17:51
map of the arab league is posted. Let me know if there is a correction to be made--i havent been following that organization as much as i should be.
[NS]Parthini
14-04-2006, 18:00
I think you should put the European Economic Community.

Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Burgundy.
Elephantum
15-04-2006, 02:38
Arab League needs Algeria I think, but you might want to wait until the Arabia situation and Italian N. Africa are sorted out.
Cylea
17-04-2006, 01:43
EEC is posted. I'll add algeria to the arab league, but if that is wrong or something changes, it shouldnt be any trouble to make some more changes.
Cylea
17-04-2006, 05:52
hrmmm...

There be the results of plebiscites that be needing posting, eh?
Haneastic
18-04-2006, 02:49
The SCT include the UIR i believe
Cylea
18-04-2006, 03:27
The SCT include the UIR i believe

mmm. News to me, but i suppose that makes sense. I'll add that to my map on my computer and post it if I can get it confirmed by another SCT member
The Lightning Star
18-04-2006, 03:28
It is in the SCT, it is.
Cylea
18-04-2006, 05:09
ten-four.

Map is updated, and thanks
Lesser Ribena
18-04-2006, 19:17
Just so your aware for the future

Britain publically announces it's intention to grant several more states their independence over the coming years. The situation will be as follows:

Cyprus- Full independence by the end of 1955, on the condition that it is split into two entities, the Republics of Northern and Southern Cyprus. Each republic will function seperately and be controlled by elected bodies based on the two house political system (like the USA), a president will lead each republic. Any citizens within Cyprus will be allowed to travel to whichever republic they wish prior to seperation, any costs incurred will be paid for by the British Commonwealth and Empire Office.

The final condition is that the current British base areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia remain in British hands as sovereign British territory and that a strip of land dividing each nation be controlled by Britain as well (see current UN Green Line), crossing between the two countries will be monitored by British forces at several checkpoint locations along the line, but it is to be otherwise sovereign territory of the Crown and guarded by a line of fences and guard posts.

OOC: This should hopefully stop any future conflicts there.

Kenya- Independence by 1962, once British investment has industrialised the nation

Tanzania- See Kenya

Carribean- Retained as part of Empire until industrialisation can be achieved, probably independent by 1970s

Ceylon- Independence by 1956, will be granted domestic autonomy immediately

Uganda- See Kenya
Rwanda- See Kenya
Congo- See Kenya
Gabon- See Kenya
Equatorial Guinea- See Kenya
Cameroon- See Kenya
Central African Republic- See Kenya
Chad- See Kenya

British Pacific Possessions and other smaller nations-To be granted independence on a case by case basis as wanted by populace, many may be retained as sovereign territory to maintain high standards of living there.

All nations to be offered membership of Commonwealth of Nations upon independence. Though veto can be exerted by the Commonwealth members on a case by case basis.
Cylea
18-04-2006, 20:27
Just so your aware for the future

Britain publically announces it's intention to grant several more states their independence over the coming years. The situation will be as follows:

Cyprus- Full independence by the end of 1955, on the condition that it is split into two entities, the Republics of Northern and Southern Cyprus. Each republic will function seperately and be controlled by elected bodies based on the two house political system (like the USA), a president will lead each republic. Any citizens within Cyprus will be allowed to travel to whichever republic they wish prior to seperation, any costs incurred will be paid for by the British Commonwealth and Empire Office.

The final condition is that the current British base areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia remain in British hands as sovereign British territory and that a strip of land dividing each nation be controlled by Britain as well (see current UN Green Line), crossing between the two countries will be monitored by British forces at several checkpoint locations along the line, but it is to be otherwise sovereign territory of the Crown and guarded by a line of fences and guard posts.

OOC: This should hopefully stop any future conflicts there.

Kenya- Independence by 1962, once British investment has industrialised the nation

Tanzania- See Kenya

Carribean- Retained as part of Empire until industrialisation can be achieved, probably independent by 1970s

Ceylon- Independence by 1956, will be granted domestic autonomy immediately

Uganda- See Kenya
Rwanda- See Kenya
Congo- See Kenya
Gabon- See Kenya
Equatorial Guinea- See Kenya
Cameroon- See Kenya
Central African Republic- See Kenya
Chad- See Kenya

British Pacific Possessions and other smaller nations-To be granted independence on a case by case basis as wanted by populace, many may be retained as sovereign territory to maintain high standards of living there.

All nations to be offered membership of Commonwealth of Nations upon independence. Though veto can be exerted by the Commonwealth members on a case by case basis.

Acknowledged. I have to say ooc that I hope nigeria eats a lot of these places so that the map gets simpler again though. :rolleyes:

I'll be updating the map as the weeks roll by so it doesnt jump ahead of the year in E20. Thanks.
Cylea
21-04-2006, 17:41
ok, before i update the map for may 1955, let me run over what i think i need to change (colors and all):

--East Timor to Australia
--Cyprus (x2) independent
--Angola to South Africa
--Mozambique Independent
--Beylorussia Independent
--Corsica to France

Obviously, no change yet on Schleswig and Holstein, as that is up in the air. Have I missed anything?
Elephantum
21-04-2006, 18:08
I think St. Petersburg will be Russian, though that may be delayed (ask Safehaven)
Galveston Bay
21-04-2006, 18:14
ok, before i update the map for may 1955, let me run over what i think i need to change (colors and all):

--East Timor to Australia
--Cyprus (x2) independent
--Angola to South Africa
--Mozambique Independent
--Beylorussia Independent
--Corsica to France

Obviously, no change yet on Schleswig and Holstein, as that is up in the air. Have I missed anything?

Beylorussia isn't a done deal unless the Russians agree to it
Kordo
21-04-2006, 22:53
--Beylorussia Independent

Russia does not currently recongnize the vote for Beylorussian independence as valid and strongly urges all UN personal to leave the Beylorussian territory as soon as possible 'for their own safety.'
Cylea
27-04-2006, 19:39
maps updated for 1956.
Lesser Ribena
27-04-2006, 20:34
Cylea, Yemen is now an independent nation. I forgot about it until I got round to doing my NPC builds and suddenly remembered it! I'll count it as independent from the start of this year and post on the Commonwealth thread regarding admission.
Cylea
27-04-2006, 20:43
No problem LR, it's a simple enough fix. I'll go ahead and promote Yemen on the Commonwealth map too, as i see no reason the vote will not pass. Thanks.
Koryan
07-05-2006, 18:44
Btw, Baghdad (the eastern part of Iraq) and Arabia have merged into the Arab Federation.
Cylea
08-05-2006, 20:54
Btw, Baghdad (the eastern part of Iraq) and Arabia have merged into the Arab Federation.

sorry about the delay in reply. New map posted with that change and an independent ceylon
[NS]Parthini
08-05-2006, 21:59
Yugoslavia and Albania and Kosovo are part of the EEC.
Cylea
08-05-2006, 22:56
Parthini']Yugoslavia and Albania and Kosovo are part of the EEC.

Thanks Parthini. map is updated.
Lesser Ribena
09-05-2006, 13:38
Just a "heads up" all remaining British African territories will be fully independent by the start of next year. You may as well add them to the map now. They have been pretty much independent (domestically) since the start of this year. They'll also be candidates for Commonwealth admission.
Cylea
09-05-2006, 16:44
Just a "heads up" all remaining British African territories will be fully independent by the start of next year. You may as well add them to the map now. They have been pretty much independent (domestically) since the start of this year. They'll also be candidates for Commonwealth admission.

lol. As far as I am concerned from a map-maker's perspective, Nigeria can eat the whole lot of these. Makes my job easier...

Mostly kidding. ;) Thanks for the heads up, and I'll get on the changes.
Koryan
11-05-2006, 22:44
Okay, last change for a while and then the Middle East should be stable.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5757/00nk.png
Cylea
17-05-2006, 19:01
Okay, last change for a while and then the Middle East should be stable.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5757/00nk.png

sorry about the delay, and thanks for making a change so easy. My comp has been down lately, so I'll get the change posted as soon as I can. Thanks.
[NS]Parthini
27-05-2006, 02:14
Spain Czechoslovakia and Bulgaria (pending but I don't see a reason why not) are all members of the EEC.
Elephantum
27-05-2006, 02:52
Also, Italy (and colonies) are second-class AL members, so if you could color them a lighter color or something (like the Commonwealth map) that'd be great.
Cylea
28-05-2006, 16:04
Ok, I promise I'll get some changes done today. It has been far too long, and my apologies.

Italy a 2nd class member of the Arab League though? Really? Alright then...
Koryan
04-06-2006, 18:47
Italy a 2nd class member of the Arab League though? Really? Alright then...

Due to its control over Libya.
Cylea
06-06-2006, 01:20
Due to its control over Libya.

yeah, the arab league map is one of the few that is more up to date--that change should be in. The others I am lagging on.

Curse this real world and its distractions! :rolleyes:
Elephantum
06-06-2006, 02:19
An OA map would be helpful if you have time. Also, Belarus can be made independent when we hit 1962, if the world isnt nuking itself to bits.
Malkyer
06-06-2006, 02:54
Ukraine and the Phillippines are both player-controlled now.
Kilani
14-06-2006, 05:44
Benin and Niger have both been absorbed into Nigeria.
Cylea
15-06-2006, 00:52
Benin and Niger have both been absorbed into Nigeria.

something I always like to hear...
Cylea
09-07-2006, 17:32
Ok, I have finally found the files where I had the maps hidden and can get these things updated. Really sorry about the delays guys.

A question on Africa though. I know all British possessions are independent (though Sierra Leone remains under special status b/c it is a launch site?), but what is the status of Mauritania, Mali, Burkina Faso, Guinea, and Ivory Coast? Does Morocco control Western Sahara?

Thanks in advance. I hope to have these all fixed by the end of the week.
Cylea
13-07-2006, 00:52
Of course, I will probably hold off on posting until the dust settles. Wouldnt it be something if I finally get these things updated and then have to change them all?
Sukiaida
13-07-2006, 19:00
The curse of being apart of a GM board.
The Lightning Star
16-07-2006, 06:21
For when you finally update the map (which probably wont be for a few week sor so, seeing how the Twilight War isn't even over), this map might help:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/perfectmap.png

It's the regular wikipedia map, with the U.S. states and Canadian Provinces, as well as Antarctica and a few more islands.
Haneastic
16-07-2006, 17:44
I take it this map will be changed soon as a result of the break-ups?
Cylea
18-07-2006, 00:13
::hugs Lightning Star!!::

yes indeeds, the maps will need so much updating, it isnt even funny. New nations live... Old nations die... Assuming of course that this year ever ends. We've killed more ppl in 10 months than every war ever combined, right?

I may even start working on a map that has all the nuclear explosions in 1964 labeled in different colors for size...
Haneastic
23-07-2006, 14:22
The UIR now controls Pakistan
Cylea
30-07-2006, 21:33
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20Worldmap1970v1.png

Time to get this stuff updated again. Here's a rough map of the World in 1970. Please let me know all the stuff that is wrong or I have forgotten--once the main map is updated I can go around and fix all the others too.

Thanks!
Haneastic
30-07-2006, 21:41
Might want to show North Sudan-South Sudan divide.

I thinki Khazakastan is Russian and I have the rest of the CAR.

Those south African areas are officially part of the nation, so you might want to eliminate the interior borders.

Other than that it looks very good
Malkyer
30-07-2006, 21:50
Don't get rid of the internal border for Angola, as that's a UN mandate rather than a province or protectorate. Otherwise Haneastic is right.
Amestria
30-07-2006, 21:50
1. Kashmir is independent.

2. Tibet is de facto independent till China reassumes control.

3. The Sikh area of Punjab (the white area) noted on this map is an autonomous region of the UIR.

http://mission-online.net/roger/images/map-religion2.jpg
Haneastic
30-07-2006, 21:51
1. Kashmir is independent.

2. Tibet is de facto independent till China reassumes control.

3. The Sikh area of Punjab (the white area) noted on this map is an autonomous region of the UIR.

http://mission-online.net/roger/images/map-religion2.jpg

1. yes

2. Never declared independance

3. Sikh is semi-autonomous, it's still a part of my nation (as GB agreed in the old UIR thread)

EDIT- that's a map of India
Cylea
30-07-2006, 22:07
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20Worldmap1970v2.png

Slightly more updated. I know I need to divide Kashmir and Yemen out, but let me know what else needs to be fixed. Thanks.
Galveston Bay
30-07-2006, 23:42
1. yes

2. Never declared independance

3. Sikh is semi-autonomous, it's still a part of my nation (as GB agreed in the old UIR thread)

EDIT- that's a map of India

actually during an extended visit by the French Military, Tibet again asserts its indepdence in 1965
Haneastic
30-07-2006, 23:51
actually during an extended visit by the French Military, Tibet again asserts its indepdence in 1965

ah, it wasn't really announced so I didn't think it had happened yet