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21-C: Australia to Leave Somalia by 2016

Asbena
15-03-2006, 23:56
Current Operations in Somalia
-----Remove Warlords
-----Stop terrorist attacks from Somalis
-----Reestablish the Somalian Border
-----Replace Mogudishu as the capital and center of the Somalian Government
-----Modernize Somali with western goods

Currently 30,000 Australian Troops are stationed throughout Somalia they are the overseer's of the project by Australian businesses and industrial factories. The plan is to rebuild Somalia as a powerful nation, complete with full electricity and water availibity to all citizens. The project includes a total social and welfare revamping.
Asbena
15-03-2006, 23:56
On the Construction Lists:

120 Hospitals
12 Power Plants (Coal/Gas Powered)
Reconstruction of 4,000,000 homes and businesses
Laying down 1,800,000 miles of wire
Digging in 800,000 miles of sewage/water systems
Clearing 400,000 hexacres for farming
Repairing/clearing 250,000 miles of dirt road
Asbena
15-03-2006, 23:57
Another operation is to purge bacterial sources from lakes and rivers to make them drinkable, this operation is expected to last 5 years. The plan is to make the water in Somalia safe to drink without the threat of water-borne sickness the currently plagues the people. Since the troops moved into Somalia the problem has been largely quelled with mass distribution of water purifiers and pumps that would allow the impurities to be removed easily. Such operation had an economic boom on the Australian market which was the sole producer of water purifers, so much so that the companies stock rating increased by fourteen times as 4 million units were ordered from the military to aid in Somalia. These water purifers are being paid for by Somali's that are currently helping to rebuild their shattered nation. The production of water purifiers started three years prior to the invasion along with Australia's movement to Somalia with Operation Humanity. Such interests helped to boost Australian businesses and their economic power with such demand of equipment.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:01
The purification of the rivers is helped largely by building cleansing plants. The water purifiers will be completed in 2012 that will completely make Somalia's water supply safe and accessable as soon as the sewage/water system is completed. Somalias are currently funding this project on the side with the Australian military as this is one of the most potential life-saving operations in Somalia to fix the problem of water-borne illness and provide farms with plenty of safe water to grow plants and crops. The removal of the diseases will largely reduce the medical costs and problems of the Somali people on the largest and most viewable short-term scale that is being seen every day. What used to be brownish or dank water is now clear blue and the Somali's like the ablity to produce their own clean water from dirty water.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:06
The engineers that are currently over seeing the operation, upgrade and functioning Somali power plants report a 20% increase in efficent production of power. The energy demands currently met the needs of Somalia in the past, but the next operation have put major strain on this and thayt is why twelve additional power plants began construction two years ago and they are just coming online now to give Somalia a massive power supply that is able to be sold to nearby countries to actually begin the restoring process in nearby Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti. Australia is currently suggesting that power be sold for little charge or no charge to the countries, until things in Somalia pan out. The energy grid for Somalia is only 30% complete, but by 2015 it will be completed.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:10
Businesses in Somalia are largely run by Australians and the key export of Somalia is becoming a huge success. Agriculture is showing a massive boom, with the previous two years harvests being over 500% more successful and profitable for Somalia. Farmers were worried that the crops might be too plentiful and would reduce cost, but they agreed to subsidizing the farm to sell the food to starving Somalis and a business. This agriculture business is highly successful and is making many villages profitable by feeding the cities. Already there has been a 40% reduction in the cases of mal-nutrition as food becomes plentiful and cheap across Somalia.
Naktan
16-03-2006, 00:13
[ooc: whoa... and the Australian GDP was what in 2006? [$649.9 billion (2005 est.)]...

what you're proposing costs a lot, and even with economic growth by Australia, I seriously doubt that the 2011 would effectively cover all of the reconstruction and construction costs for what you're proposing:

for the 250,000 miles of road?

The engineer's estimate for a project involving 14 miles of Interstate 70 roadway in Utah was $20,950,859. Bids were submitted on March 10, 1987, for completing the project within 320 working days. The three low bidders were:


1. Ball, Ball & Brosame, Inc., Danville CA $14,129,798
2. National Projects, Inc., Phoenix, AR $15,381,789
3. Kiewit Western Co., Murray, Utah $18,146,714

Assuming the prices from 1987 are constant [of which they aren't], those 14 miles of Interstate highway would cost $252,317,821,428.57 [i.e. $252 TRIL]. Granted that this is an Interstate highway, it's pretty nice. So let's take the assumption that it takes about $10,000 to build one mile of that extensive road system [one mile of road being the cost for moving earth and vegetation for construction, laying the concrete, the concrete itself, and initial maintenance of the road surface. Taking that estimate, you get a tab of a whopping $2,500,000,000 [i.e. $2.5 TRIL]. Try cutting the costs on that? That's just the roads...]
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:18
Australia's troops are aiding in setting up medical facilities until the hospitals are completely supplied and stocked.While the demand of the troops is overwhelming the ability to care for the Somali's diseases is dire, so dire that the new medical students of Somalia are allowed to begin practicing medicine and surgery and care of patients with only four months of training. These are specifically met to the current issues at hand. Malnutrition, sickness, disease and other forms of bacterial illness. The current system is that medical officers of Australia identify what the probable illness is and sends the sick person to the specific doctor to be healed in the area that they are suited to. Medicine is a big problem, antibotics are being heavily abused and are being taken when not needed. Other patients are unable to recieve the medicines they need as a result of others infront of them that need the pills. The medical part of Operation Humanity is severely lacking and if Australia was not under trade embargos, would be able to procure the medical supplies they so dearly need. Australia has been providing stainless steel knifes and medical equipment to Somali hospitals, but sterlization of the tools is not often done, most are rinsed with purified water before surgeries and examinations, but this is a drawback of the influx of patients that are coming to the hospitals.
Naktan
16-03-2006, 00:19
And you're missing an important part in improving the local economy:

-you're hiring Australians for business in Somalia...
-the only real miltary force present is the Australian force; where's Somalia's army?
-again, the Australian engineers are taking up a lot of jobs that Somali people could be taking...
-where's the free and fair elections?
-this whole project seems to make Somalia more dependent on Australia for economic support, and it really doesn't help the other countries in the region if Australia is sucking Somali jobs from the people there...
-that note about the "Somalias are currently funding this project on the side with the Australian military" [post 2]...you're making them pay for your military to do stuff on their territory?

France totally abhors this proposal, and is suggesting a UN resolution send peacekeeping forces into Somalia to promote the national sovereignty of Somalia in this instance...

[ooc: this isn't helping you...]
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:20
And you're missing an important part in improving the local economy:

-you're hiring Australians for business in Somalia...
-the only real miltary force present is the Australian force; where's Somalia's army?
-again, the Australian engineers are taking up a lot of jobs that Somali people could be taking...
-where's the free and fair elections?
-this whole project seems to make Somalia more dependent on Australia for economic support, and it really doesn't help the other countries in the region if Australia is sucking Somali jobs from the people there...
-that note about the "Somalias are currently funding this project on the side with the Australian military" [post 2]...you're making them pay for your military to do stuff on their territory?

France totally abhors this proposal, and is suggesting a UN resolution send peacekeeping forces into Somalia to promote the national sovereignty of Somalia in this instance...

[ooc: this isn't helping you...]

OOC: WAIT DAMMIT STILL POSTING!
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:23
The Education System proposes by Australia is severely lacking and as a need to have more skilled workers in Somalia, the military is currently offering courses and information to Somali's on how to teach others, it is hoped that by 2017 that the beginning of a national school system is going to be run by the Somali government. Though this process is a long one, Australia is assured that it cannot care for this sector completely and is relying heavily on the local government to make this happen.
Naktan
16-03-2006, 00:25
OOC: WAIT DAMMIT STILL POSTING!

[ooc: the posts that you've already posted say enough about your intentions in Somalia...

all that you've stated are plans to tie Somalia more directly into your dependency - no where [except in your title] have you listed plans for a military and political withdrawal from Somalia...]
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:29
The reconstruction of housing is a joint effort by the proper government and the Australian government to meet the demands of the cities, which have been severely abused in recent years. Ever since the fall of the Somali government in 1991, the proper maintaince and operation, construction and care for the buildings have been up to the people that occupied them. In many cases the housing of the cities is inadequet and must be torn down and rebuilt, though the conditions may be bad, the livablity of the buildings still stands and only severely damaged buildings are being torn down and rebuilt in small economic sizes with non-descript cookie-cutter features.

The labor provided for the housing effort, much of the same along with the agricultural, medical, engineering, educational, law enforcement, and services is being provided largely by the Somali's with local governments at the head of the decision making process, except for areas of Somaliland and Puntland, which are under control of the military.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:37
The Transitional Federal Government consisting of a 275-member parliament was established in October 2004 of Mogudisho is currently at the center of Australian and Somalian plans to fix the nation. The unicameral government is the primary driving force for repairs of Somalia. Although an interim government was created in 2004 other governing bodies continue to exist and control various cities and regions of the country, including the self-declared Republic of Somaliland, Australia's forceful removal of the twin nations within Somalia has made the hand of the Transitional Federal Government powerful.

Australian military officals can only help keep the peace and oversee the operation of the Transitional Federal Government that is currently being overwhelmed and is trying to grab full control of the northern parts of Somalia.

There is talk of placing the former Prime Minster Dishu at the head of a democratic party with the cabinet members made of the clans in a form of democratic/federalism style government. Australia only encourages that Prime Minister Dishu be made head of Somalia as his record to keep Somalia under control has been successful. Australia will not attempt to remove Prime Minister Dishu from his position and believes that Somalia will recognize the leader as the proper ruler of Somalia.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:44
Australian troop removal will commence at 2012 will a steady reduction of 10,000 troops by 2013. These troops will lower the amount stationed in Somalia from 40,000 to 30,000 after the Dome of the Rock issue is solved.

In 2013 a proposed reduction of an additional 5,000 troops is being heard of. This is depending largely on Somali's ability to take charge of itself with Dishu at the head. Although Dishu promises he will not back down from Australian aid and businesses, he wishes the troops leave even if their is severe problems as long as they do not threaten the Federal Government.

In 2014, another 10,000 troops are expected to return home, dropping the total number of troops in Somalia to just 15,000. This is largely do to the military's optimistic response to Dishu wanting to get Somalia under control, by 2014 the military believes that a large part of troops will not be needed to secure Somalia.

In 2015, all 15,000 troops are expected to return home by 2016, as economic aid to Somalia is continued, but the established law enforcement and central production of the country is transferred back into Somalia. Somalia will be its own sovereign nation will a direct tie to Australia as an ally and economic trade partner for many decades to come.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:45
OOC: Okay this is the major crap out of the way...will post this to the other threads as a long single post to end this stupid crap once and for all.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 00:59
Australia's backing out of troops does not mean that Somalia will be left defenseless. Australia is going to leave its tanks, 16 F-18's, 10 patrol boats, a border-length Metal Storm ADWS. The old Leopard I's are going to be entrusted to Somalia and a full complement of rifles and Metal Storm rifles to the police. This high-tech solution will hopefully prevent other nations from attacking Somalia or causing a revolt within Somalia.

Australia is also giving away old business computers to Somalia to aid in the governments rise to power. With increased data management and internet connections, the Somali state will be better prepared and able to handle issues without going through each clan.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 01:14
The affect on Somalia that Australia has will greatly increase the nations GDP by leaps and bounds that will be quite missed.

In 2005: $4.825 billion
In 2006: $4.940 billion
In 2007: $5.059 billion
In 2008: $5.180 billion
In 2009: $5.304 billion
In 2010: $5.940 billion
In 2011: $6.652 billion
In 2012: $7.450 billion (Predicted)
Asbena
16-03-2006, 01:23
Australian currency is expected to replace the Somali Shilling in 2011 that will give a proper currency that will not be abused as Somali businesses have in the past. At its height of abuse, the Somali Shilling was worth just 1/22000 of the American dollar. This is largely responsible to businesses that print their own money to use.

In 2000, the last recorded currency value was 11000 Somalian Shillings per $1. The abuse of businesses by printing their own money to cause inflation helped to wreck the business in Somalia, essentially having no limits or restriction on how much printable money was in existance or circulation, an inessence having inflation rate of 370% in just one year! (CIA Factbook 1999,2000 money comparison)
Gilabad
16-03-2006, 01:42
The Gilabadian government would like to assist in the reconstruction of Somalia. Gilabad has 25 C-5s loaded with food and medical equipment ready for deployment. 50,000 troops have been mobilized to eliminate the Habre Gedir militia and to track down Zihad Jarrah Aidid, a major drug trafficer in Somalia, and who has been trying to smuggle narqoutics into Gilabad. We are also bringing in GGU (Gilabad General Utilities) to rebuild the Mogadishu airport.
Asbena
16-03-2006, 01:47
OOC: Uh....Only 21-C people. Sorry. ^-^;
Gilabad
16-03-2006, 01:49
What do you mean by 21 century people?
Asbena
16-03-2006, 01:56
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467830
This thread.
Naktan
16-03-2006, 02:02
Australia's backing out of troops does not mean that Somalia will be left defenseless. Australia is going to leave its tanks, 16 F-18's, 10 patrol boats, a border-length Metal Storm ADWS. The old Leopard I's are going to be entrusted to Somalia and a full complement of rifles and Metal Storm rifles to the police. This high-tech solution will hopefully prevent other nations from attacking Somalia or causing a revolt within Somalia.

Australia is also giving away old business computers to Somalia to aid in the governments rise to power. With increased data management and internet connections, the Somali state will be better prepared and able to handle issues without going through each clan.

France prefers to have a UN moderated reconstruction, seeing as the Australian plan serves a grave injustice to the Somali people. France is setting a resolution on the table to allow UN peacekeepers in the area.

[ooc: you still haven't answered how you're going to pay for all this...]
Asbena
16-03-2006, 02:07
OOC: The Somali people are going to do most of the work, we are just providing billions in aid in exchange for businesses to be run in Somalia and fix the costs by a long and slow process....but the US is going to speed it up I think!

(I think it will cost $5 trillion to perform the operations, and I fixed the road to dirt roads...Somalia's GDP will grow INSANELY though. That's why we want UN backing as I said in Kyanges (though $5 tril is a hell of a lot...don't know why he is pushing to turn a 30 year project into a 20 year one with so much funding.)
Naktan
16-03-2006, 02:13
The Transitional Federal Government consisting of a 275-member parliament was established in October 2004 of Mogudisho is currently at the center of Australian and Somalian plans to fix the nation. The unicameral government is the primary driving force for repairs of Somalia. Although an interim government was created in 2004 other governing bodies continue to exist and control various cities and regions of the country, including the self-declared Republic of Somaliland, Australia's forceful removal of the twin nations within Somalia has made the hand of the Transitional Federal Government powerful.

Australian military officals can only help keep the peace and oversee the operation of the Transitional Federal Government that is currently being overwhelmed and is trying to grab full control of the northern parts of Somalia.

There is talk of placing the former Prime Minster Dishu at the head of a democratic party with the cabinet members made of the clans in a form of democratic/federalism style government. Australia only encourages that Prime Minister Dishu be made head of Somalia as his record to keep Somalia under control has been successful. Australia will not attempt to remove Prime Minister Dishu from his position and believes that Somalia will recognize the leader as the proper ruler of Somalia.

[ooc: is this an invitation to dictatorship or to democracy? Where is the voice of the people in Somalia?]
Asbena
16-03-2006, 02:17
OOC: That's to come LATER...this is the Australian report. If you noticed I put the message to the UN up. (I'm still not done with this jeeze) You kill my urge to complete this properly faster then anything else. :o

Edit: Somalia's Transistional Federal Government was not a democracy or dictatorship. It was basically a confederacy except they were not all equals. The north was a republic and Puntland was dicatatorship.