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Ma'aseh: Naqah (Operation: Cleanse):

The morning after the Universal Summit and Ultimatum
0100 hours

A soft footfall was heard in the early morning. The message had been sent, "Ma'aseh: Naqah" had begun. A construction worker moves slowly on the Temple Mount, surveying the scene. It will be the last time he sees the Dome of the Rock in this position.

All precautions have been taken. The Muslim world had no idea that the move would begin tonight. They would soon find out though... when the sun came up in about 6 hours.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert stood on the Mount, watching the workers operate very carefully and quietly. This is the day... he thought, The day we bring cleansing to Israel...

Twenty minutes later, all had been completed on the Mount. The dome had been removed carefully with the latest technology from its foundation, and was now ready to be moved to Mecca...

The Prime Minister now headed back to his office, deep in thought while his limo turned down the street. Let's hope this all works...

The car came to a halt within a few moments, and Ehud stepped out and walked into the building. He climbed to flights of stairs, and crossed the hall. he pushed open a heavy door, found his chair, and slumped into it. He then hit a button on his desk.

"Yes?" replied a young woman.

"Natalie, send the appropriate message, all is ready."

"Yes sir."

Within moments, a secret message had been sent to the construction workers, and military (Jamming of all other transmissions was sent up to assure that no one would intercept the message):

"Greeting, children of Israel. Today is a fantastic day in our history, and you are to become a part of it. In fact, you are it. Today, you will cleanse Israel of the Infidels, and bring peace to our beloved homeland. Indeed, our homeland which was created by God... the Everlasting to Everlasting. Operation: Cleanse is based on a key verse found in the Holy Scriptures.

Joel 3:21 states, 'For I will cleanse their blood [that] I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.'

Children of Israel, today is the day of cleansing, we will cleanse the blood of our fathers and ourselves, by cleansing the heathens among us, and removing their building from our midst.

Therefore, go and fulfill the prophecy, and return the Mount of Zion unto the Israeli people!"

Ehud sighed as he let go of the button. What a day this will be...

Success was not assured, but every attempt would be made to keep the Dome of the Rock safe while in transit. The Israelis cared very much about keeping the building in good condition. Only if the Muslims attacked, would the Dome be in danger.

Two groups of Sabras (each one hundred strong), 500 elite foot soldiers, and constant Aerial coverage would be sent as the escort for the dome.

At 0130 hours, the convoy moved out. The troops encircling the Dome with the utmost care.

The massive Dome was held on a large moving platform hauled by several huge trucks (not to mention an engine of its own), and would take three weeks of transit to arrive safely on the borders of the city Mecca.

Ehud stared at a satellite image of the convoy moving out. Then suddenly, the image disappeared. Ehud gasped, "What just happened?!"

Then he remembered, Ah yes... the jamming is now working quite nicely... they won't be able to spot us till sunup.

OOC: Good job on that writing, this is very speculative. What will happen next?

Let's hope no Muslims attack eh?

OOC: Good job on that writing, this is very speculative. What will happen next?

Let's hope no Muslims attack eh?

OOC:

Thank you.

I don't know... maybe I'll get spotted. A LOT depends on what Wllink does. Then... well... we'll see.

OCC: So are you going to try and make Israeil Completely Jewish? It would be hard to do the Muslims, never mind the Christians...

OCC: So are you going to try and make Israeil Completely Jewish? It would be hard to do the Muslims, never mind the Christians...

OOC: We'll see...

Transmission to israel

Greetings, i am King Abdullah the second. Let me assure you, i understand western politics, their regards for religion, and how neccisary it is for peace to happen in the middle east. I will personally accept the DOR transfer, and US troops will provide escort to mecca.(I can not assure you that our military will not shoot at you.) A little problem that has occurs is the average muslims. Pardon my language, but you have pissed them off. I can assure you they will be waiting at the border for the transfer, ready to pelt rocks and scream at your transports. I can understand the importance of the spot for you, but my only wish is that the grave remains untouched. If it is touched, i can assure you that nearly the entire muslim world will declare open religous war upon israel. Please contact me privately if you need any more information.

OOC: From the other threads...

IC:Australian frigates and missile Frigates stationed off the coast of Israel will be providing aid just incase of attack on the moving transport. The 8 frigates (3 normal, 5 missile frigates) will be prepared to strike any target that Israel claims is a threat to the operation. Australia's goal is to not piss off the 8 million Somalians that are barely under their control as is. The success of Israel's operation and Australia's protection is a matter that will determine Somalia's future.

0600 hours

A buzzing went off in Ehud's office, and he slammed the button like an alarm clock.

"What is it Natalie?" he said groggily.

"Sir, we have recieved a message from the King of Saudi Arabia personally."

"Put it through the computers."

"Yes sir."

Ehud shifted in his chair, and swiveled it around to view the screen. It was dark black, and it took the very tired Ehud about 30 seconds to realize that the screen was off. With sudden realization, he flipped the switch on.

Bad idea! his brain roared at him. The bright screen nearly blinded his unadjusted eyes, and he had to cover them for two or three minutes before he could bare the pain of looking at the bright screen.

Finally, he mustered his courage and stared it down, his eyes finally adjusting.

He pulled up an email from Natalie containing the message.

Well, well... hello Abdullah... he blinked several times.

After finishing the message... he quickly typed up a reply and clicked the send button on his monitor. Then he smacked the big black button on his desk, "Natalie, I've just sent you a reply... forward it to King Abdullah immediately."

"Yes sir." replied the girl.

Ehud released his pressure on the black circle and leaned back in his chair. Thank God for their cooperation...

---

Natalie had been actively at work since 1 a.m. and she pulled up the email from Ehud and quickly forwarded it.

She had a special feeling about this day, and was happy to be an active part of it. But then again, she had her reserves about the day, her brother was among the soldiers sent to protect the Dome on the convoy.

She breathed a silent prayer as she hit the forward command. I wonder... she thought... she couldn't resist to see what Ehud had replied.

She smiled as she read the reply. Always the gentleman aren't we Ehud? the aide pondered.

Message sent to King Abdullah:

Thank you sir, you are most kind to allow us to make this move. I assure you that the graves have all been preserved. This was of utmost importance to use while we worked on the project, and i personally oversaw it to assure the graves went undisturbed. The convoy will enter Saudi Arabia near Tabuk, and then head due South to Mecca.

---

An hour earlier:
0700 hours

The convoy roared on, and the rumble of the numerous tanks could be heard from miles away likely.

Major General Gadi Eizenkot, who had personally been chosen by the Prime Minister to head up Ma'aseh Naqah, drove along in his command jeep overlooking the operation. Thus far, they had seen nobody as they rumbled accross the desert. They would be entering Jordan in a few hours, where they would likely encounter some resistance.

They would head down as South as possible and then cross just north of Al-Aqabah, leaving Jordan as fast as possible. Then they would get to Saudi Arabia, where Eizenkot hoped it would be easier to move in.

They would have to be very careful while they crossed Jordan.

Secret message to Australia:

Once we drop the DotR off in Mecca, our bagaining chip is gone, and we will have troops deep behind hostile terrority. Is it possible that Australia could provide transportation for 200 Sabras, 500 foot soldiers, and a few jeeps? We just would need a lift back to the southern tip of Israel.

If so, we will meet your transports just south of Jeddah.

[ooc: I know what Saudi Arabia said, but still...]

[SIC to Israel: Did the Saudi Kingdom give consent to this? We certainly hope so, seeing as the actions that have been made are now irreversible.]

[SIC to Saudi Arabia: Is Saudi Arabia aware of the fact that Israel is moving the Dome of the Rock to Saudi Arabia and as it stands [although our satellites lost tracking just a while ago], their convoy has left Jerusalem for sites near Mecca? If so, does Saudi Arabia consent to this decision?]

OOC: He gave his consent... I accepted the consent of Pakistan... it is irreversable. We are glad that SA is being reasonable. And rightly so.

SIC to France:

Yes, Saudi Arabia did give consent. Thank you for your concern... but we believe that this will now go over very cleanly.

OOC: He gave his consent... I accepted the consent of Pakistan... it is irreversable. We are glad that SA is being reasonable. And rightly so.

[ooc: the reason why I said that was because it was SIC to Israel...France technically doesn't know but we really, really do want to know before anything seriously happens...]

SIC:
Aramaki responds grimfully, "Throwing military retrieval operations in Saudi Arabia would start a war we do not want to be blamed for starting. However the operation will take long enough so that our boats will be able to handle the operation. We will begin preparations immediately, our future in Somalia is in the balance, they see this movement as nessessary to prevent destruction of the holy monument, which a less dishonor then having it moved to Mecca. Support is waning on our side, but hopefully this will go smoothly."

[ooc: the reason why I said that was because it was SIC to Israel...France technically doesn't know but we really, really do want to know before anything seriously happens...]

OOC: lol... just realized that... and changed my post.

The 5 CSN frigates assumed a defensive position near the Austrilian ships who were joining on this mission. 3 of them were Missile frigates, 2 were gunboats. They eyed the Austrilian frigates warily.

OOC- Geneticon, are you planning on bringing tanks to SA !!?? Because they are not stupid enough to allow 200 Sabra's into the nation..

OOC: What garbage...Australia is a clean nation lol! They are all neat-freaks compared to the USA.

OOC: What garbage...Australia is a clean nation lol! They are all neat-freaks compared to the USA.

(OOC: LOL, ain't that the truth. Not for long though. Well, at least until 2075-00, when I intend to form the US into a fully green country, hydrogen cars, Antarctic bases helping to prevent polar ice cap meltdowns, etc.)

OOC- Geneticon, are you planning on bringing tanks to SA !!?? Because they are not stupid enough to allow 200 Sabra's into the nation..

OOC: heck yeah... although they are totally not at the ready. We have to bring them in to assure the protection of the Dome. They are the escort.

OOC- My air force will keep an extreamly close eye on you then.

(OOC: LOL, ain't that the truth. Not for long though. Well, at least until 2075-00, when I intend to form the US into a fully green country, hydrogen cars, Antarctic bases helping to prevent polar ice cap meltdowns, etc.)

OOC: Hydrogen cars do not reduce pollution alone. Antarctic bases sure....:rolleyes:

200 tanks is alot...the Saudis will be upset lol!

OOC- My air force will keep an extreamly close eye on you then.

OOC: That's ok... so will mine.

Secret message to Australia:

Once we drop the DotR off in Mecca, our bagaining chip is gone, and we will have troops deep behind hostile terrority. Is it possible that Australia could provide transportation for 200 Sabras, 500 foot soldiers, and a few jeeps? We just would need a lift back to the southern tip of Israel.

If so, we will meet your transports just south of Jeddah.

[ooc: that's almost like expeditionary army!!! that's fodder begging for a strike...down-size your tank population and if you need the mechanized ability, just add more APACs...tanks are too sensitive and perhaps expensive to waste on an expedition...and it doesn't help to know that the size of your force leaves a very large dust trail for satellites to track...]

OOC: By re-opening the routes you'll be freed of the garbage just intime for the TDP facilities to come online. (It's been 3 NS years already! Can you believe it!?)

[ooc: that's almost like expeditionary army!!! that's fodder begging for a strike...down-size your tank population and if you need the mechanized ability, just add more APACs...tanks are too sensitive and perhaps expensive to waste on an expedition...and it doesn't help to know that the size of your force leaves a very large dust trail for satellites to track...]

OOC: We are not expecting violence, and we believe the DotR is worth such a large task force. And we don't care if we get spotted now, it would be stupid to think we could waltz into SA without being spotted.

Besides, we have constant Aerial coverage to avoid an airstrike.

OOC: Hydrogen cars do not reduce pollution alone. Antarctic bases sure....:rolleyes:

200 tanks is alot...the Saudis will be upset lol!

(OOC: I seriously suggest you read up on the news sometime. The US leads bases (10-100 people scientific bases) internationally up and down in the poles. FFS even China's gotten a piece of the action with their own polar research ship, the Snow Dragon. Hydrogen cars don't. What's your point? Say it, and maybe I can counter it.)

OOC: Please continue your talk of polution and such in your own threads... and please delete these messages which do not relate to Operation: Cleanse from this thread.

OOC: Please continue your talk of polution and such in your own threads... and please delete these messages which do not relate to Operation: Cleanse from this thread.

[ooc: oh the irony of that...]

Grunting as they went, the group of men slowly slid the heavy mortar into place. It was a new piece, recently delivered by Iran among dozens of other weapons, to Irans allies in Lebanon and Syria. Finally getting the mortar in place the first shell plopped in before quickly thumping out, heading towards the tiny Israel town of Gonen which sat less than a mile from the newly freed Golan Heights. Two men struggled to get another heavy 120mm shell into the tube and another thump was heard. The shells were huge, 120mm was a small artillery piece and would do a lot of damage. After a minute of firing they packed up and scurried off to a new position, but not before they'd left several ruins in Gonen, a 120mm shell would smash a house. The mortar attack was by far not the only thing that was occuring that day, dozens of other attacks raged over the border, most minor and inconsiquencial happenings, but many like the mortar strike weren't. Northern Israel would be on the recieving end of heavy mortar and rocket fire every day, Iran was prepared to make sure Israel got no rest. Tons of weapons, many of them modern equipment purchased in Spain by Iran, were being delivered to Hezbollah and other groups like it in Lebanon, Syria and Palestine, and no secret was being made of it. In fact, Iran was asking prominent and rich Muslims worldwide to bankroll the actions occuring in northern Israel. For now the weapons sent were just rockets, mortars, light artillery pieces and the ammunition for them and small arms, although heavier equipment, and more direct support, has been promised should Israel cross the border in anyway.


OOC: Pretty shitty, but I'm busy and I had to put some kind of summary up. I'll do something much better tommorrow.

While Saudi Arabia could not take the same stance as Iran, they also began to provide money and small arms to groups in palestine, the west bank, and lebanon. Warehouses captured in yemen discovered masses of stocked up military equipment, hundreds of RPG's, 12 T-62's and 18 T-72's, and even military grade explosives, all which was shipped into lebanon and handed out freely. Saudi Arabia sent messages to the Yemenese people telling them to head to lebanon and palestine and fight the evil israeli menace, or face death.

[ooc: the UAE annexed Palestine a while back... This is probably going to turn to hell...]

[ooc: the UAE annexed Palestine a while back... This is probably going to turn to hell...]

OOC: Most likely.

OOC: Yeah... first of all, all of Sothern Lebanon has recently fallen under Israeli control, and Lebanon has a lot more problems than just a Dome. They are being invaded, so you can't really funnel money to them, or set up mortars there... they can't recieve money if they have no organization, and any person who attacked from the Lebanon border would be shot on site.

The Golan Heights attacks are another thing, but we will soon deal with them. Blowing up a few buildings isn't too bad. But, you are also godmodding to say your bombs hit their targets.

Besides that, go ahead and attack, we get attacked constantly anyway.

[ooc: has any actual fighting started, because we'd really hate that...]

[ooc: has any actual fighting started, because we'd really hate that...]

OOC: Except for Lebanon (which is for a totally different reason)... no.

Israel has already closed borders a long time ago, and these isolated attacks will not be a problem. We will simply tell all civilians to move inward in the country, and destroy any isolated terrorists that get near the border on site. They can hardly hope to be a bother unless they engage an all out war.

We don't care if they attack the borders, the key is that their is no terrorism within the borders.

A day later
Convoy
0500 hours:

A day later, the weary convy continued its march through the desert. It had had to cross above Al-Aqaba the day before, and it had met resistance here and there from outraged Muslim civilians. But so far, no organized attacks had met the group.

Major General Gadi Eizenkot was hastily awoken from his sleep, and he pulled himself up in his jeep seat, while the convoy began to move.

"Status?"

"We've been harrased all night by radicals, but nothing big enough to do any damage, no losses or wounds sir..."

"Good... let's drop this building where it belongs and get the heck home."

Gadi Eizenkot had realized very quickly that recent estimates of the trip were way off. They would reach Mecca in three days, rather than the three weeks which were expected. There was nothing to hold them up. They would be in Mecca tommorow.

They rumbled accross Ma'an and approached the border of Saudi Arabia.

"Hopefully they don't see our little task force as a threat, though I expect a little resistance once we get into the more heavily populated areas. We'll head due south-south-east once we cross the border Captain."

"Yes sir. Wiring message to the rest now..."

The Major General leaned back. Ma'aseh Naqah was going off without a hitch so far.

---

Israel
0800 hours:

Ehud walked into his office.

"Natalie, what's going on with the convoy?"

"They crossed the border to Saudi Arabia 2 and a half hours ago sir, their headed straight for Mecca, being careful to stay away from heavy Muslim population."

"And rightly so... any messages for me?"

"No sir, but I do have a report."

Natalie handed the Prime Minister a sheet of paper. Ehud took it and shoved his door open, then collapsed into his office chair.

He read the report:

Report from border:

We are recieving attacks from isolated rockets, mortars, and various other kinds of attacks. As our orders have dictated, we have not fired upon anyone who has not come within suicide bombing striking distance, but we are having a hard time dodging all of these attacks. So far Israeli casualties are 3 dead and 36 wounded from these attacks, and we have had to shoot 3 Islamic radicals who seemed to be rushing at us with bombs strapped to their backs. We will hold the border at all costs, but we recommend sending people away from their homes if they live along the border.

Ehud grimaced. I knew this time would come...

Then he smiled and hit the button on his desk turning on the intercom.

"Natalie, reply to the border message that they are fully authorized to take out anybody who dares to attack the border. They are seen as terrorists. Have constant flyovers with aircraft that can take out targets if need be. Make sure they are equipped with ECM."

Ehud paused to sigh.

"And Natalie, tell them not to go too far from the borders, and only send a small amount of men to take out the enemy, we need to keep everyone we can on a hard defense on the border."

"Yes sir."

"One more thing girl, make sure that every civilian close enough to be hit with mortar fire on the border is evactuated inward, give them the old Palestnian homes."

Ehud let go of the button. It would be a long day. I hope we don't have to go retake the Golan Heights...

/IC to Israel
Sense it appears that the movement of the DoR is going to be relatively peaceful, the CBSS would like to recall its frigates to their home harbor if Israel does not believe they are needed any longer.

/Secret IC - If you give us a target, perhaps we can reduce the amount of resistance in lebanon for you. we have been looking for a reason to test our weapons in the field. Perhaps if the test goes well and Israel is interested, we could sell some of the new frigates to your navy. For a fair price of course.

SIC to CBSS:

Thank you... we think that it will be peaceful, but we have yet to see what Iran will do.

In any case, if you wish to attack a target in Lebanon, we have found (via satellite) a detatchment of Lebanese mechanized/foot military in the Jbail district. We are sending you the exact location now... thank you for your help.

If the test is successful, we might very well be interested in these ships.

The pair of Alexander class frigates turned broadside to the shore. On each ship two pairs of 80mm Coil-Railguns aligned with their designated target.

"Capitan, the reactor shows optimal output. The cordinates have been input into the targeting computers and the targets have been spotted by recon vehicle. It appears to be 4 APC's with an accompanyment of foot soldiers. From what we can tell they are carrying mortars. Sir, One of the APC's appears to be towing an artillery piece. If that were to get within range of any civilian areas in Israel.."

The Capitan nodded. "Fire when ready"

The lights on the ships momentarily dimmed as the primary power output of the ship switched from movement to firing. There was a low hum of capacitors being charged then a sudden KRAAAKOOOOOM as 4 1 kilogram soild projectiles were fired from their guns at nearly mach 9. In less then a second they impacted their targets. The sheer force of the impact causing 2 of the APC's to implode. There was a second KRAAAKOOOOM as the second frigate fired a second later removing the other 2 APC's from existance.

"Report" barked the Capitan.
The Ensign looked over the recon feed "The firing was successful. .. sir.. there is not much left to identify."
"Good. Tell the engineers they need to look at a way to keep power fully online during firing. I dont like the idea of loosing any engine power during that." The Capitan sat back down. "Contact Israel. Of course, they probably heard the shots from there."

Jbail District Coastline, Lebanon
1310 hours

Gershum Al-Janubalexa sat on a rock, sipping a concoction. He stared accross the desert, seemingly looking through his fellow freedom fighters.

!@#$%^ those Israelis... was the thought that ran through his mind.

He was awaken from his trance by the words from his comrade, "Who do those ships belong too?"

Gershum looked to his right. Israeli craft? It couldn't be Israeli...

A huge sound split the silence in two, and Gershum jumped to his feet.

WHAT IN THE...

It would be the last thought he would ever have. The area was impacted within less than a second, and the APCs and their guards vaporized with the scream of the round that destroyed them.

As the smoke cleared, all that remained was two holes. No APCs, no Gershum.

---

Jerusalem, Israel
1313 hours:

Ehud looked up as he was handed a report by Natalie.

"What's this?"

"Help from the CBSS."

"Thank the Maker. What have we got here..."

He looked down at paper and saw that the attack on the Jbail Coast had been successful.

"Good gracious!" he exclaimed as he looked at the images of what had survived the attack. The picture was empty except for two rather large craters.

He looked up at Natalie.

"Tell the CBSS thanks, and tell them we're definitely interesting in buying some of those ships."

OOC: Railguns...you don't have, Cen. Sorry, but not even the USA has them yet.

OOC: Railguns...you don't have, Cen. Sorry, but not even the USA has them yet.

OOC: Actually... in RL the US plans to use them in 2011... that would be now. Cen could easily have worked on the tech himself... and besides, this is a prototype ship, which has lots of problems... while in 2011 the US is planning to have the idea perfected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railguns#Theory_and_construction

SIC To Israel:
Argentina offers Israel their full support on this issue, and will help fight the terrorists along the border if needed. If you ever need the Argentinan air force, just leave us a memo. Argentina condamns any country who supports the terrorisim in Israel.

OOC: Actually... in RL the US plans to use them in 2011... that would be now. Cen could easily have worked on the tech himself... and besides, this is a prototype ship, which has lots of problems... while in 2011 the US is planning to have the idea perfected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railguns#Theory_and_construction

OOC: How can he have this technology!? Let alone two ships with this technology and have them operational, powered and capable of firing without damaging the system and having it break after the shots!?

I guess nobody ever reads my posts.. i've been reasearching this tech sense 2009. construction started in 2010 on the ships themselves. They were built along the lines of the liberty ships of the USA. Fast and simple. this was their field test. not to mention, The CBSS has a whole bunch of engineers from our mag-rail project that know magnetics. I've had a facility dedicated solely to this project for some time now & we has some people.. acquire the US design. If you look at modern tech, people can construct a railgun in their homes. Its really not that complex. The US has a limited budget set for their programs and a limited amount of ships being planned. Tons of red tape. We basicly made magnetics our primary focus of research (plus some other things.. but thats all noted for.)

Am I the only person who reads through everybody's R&D threads on their pages?


Btw, why yell about it alot? I'm going to be making this ships avaliable for sale...

OOC: It takes longer then a year to lay the ships down and do all the research for them. Sorry. It's just not possible yet.

[ooc: I believe that I've said this before, but just because the US has research for it and has certain time schedules for its completion doesn't mean that other countries have that same kind of technology. Granted the US is developing it, although I didn't about the 2011 arrangement, but I doubt that either CBSS or the previous states had any real research going on about it...you'll have to perform the research for the technology on your time

And Australia, you're not the best role model to be critiquing on this, seeing as you're going about your technological advances a little too super fast yourself, up on the TDP plants and cold plasma, et cetera...]

if you would have read the post, you would have seen that the construction style is modeled after the liberty ships of WW2. Liberty ships, which were constucted in under 50 days EACH. the first one took ~60 days to construct and after that the times only went down.

[ooc: this will be my last post on this thread...after this, I will post on the main OOC thread...

on that note, liberty ships were commercial merchant ships, not military vessels...]

OOC: Yeah... first of all, all of Sothern Lebanon has recently fallen under Israeli control, and Lebanon has a lot more problems than just a Dome. They are being invaded, so you can't really funnel money to them, or set up mortars there... they can't recieve money if they have no organization, and any person who attacked from the Lebanon border would be shot on site.

The Golan Heights attacks are another thing, but we will soon deal with them. Blowing up a few buildings isn't too bad. But, you are also godmodding to say your bombs hit their targets.

Besides that, go ahead and attack, we get attacked constantly anyway.

OOC: I said a few mortar shells hit a town? Not really much of a godmod right there, not like there was anyway you could stop the shells. But anyway, when you say you closed all your borders does that include your ports? Closing your borders is going to hurt trade. And are you evacuating ALL the ladn within range of arty and rocket fire from the Golan heights, cause thats some of your good farming land of which you don't have much, and its going to be a drain on your economy moving those people especially since they won't have a job when they move exc. And you do realize that seomwhere between 1/3 and 55% of your fresh water comes from the Golan.

But the major thing is, you invaded Lebanon? That means war with Syria, Syria has a LOT invested in Lebanon, something like a million Syrians cross the border to work in Lebanon daily. Not to mention the other ties betwen the two countries, why do you think Syria kept its troops in Lebanon so long and was so reluctant to "leave"(They never truly, completely left). War with Syria most likely means war with Egypt. But even so your going to face a bitch of a guerilla war in Lebanon, and yes there are plenty of groups I could funnel money and weapons to in Lebanon, plenty, most notably, but not just, Hezbollah.

But that brings up the question, who the hell is going to rp Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and even Jordan and the Palestinians? Cause they all will be major players in this.

OOC: I said a few mortar shells hit a town? Not really much of a godmod right there, not like there was anyway you could stop the shells. But anyway, when you say you closed all your borders does that include your ports? Closing your borders is going to hurt trade. And are you evacuating ALL the ladn within range of arty and rocket fire from the Golan heights, cause thats some of your good farming land of which you don't have much, and its going to be a drain on your economy moving those people especially since they won't have a job when they move exc. And you do realize that seomwhere between 1/3 and 55% of your fresh water comes from the Golan.

But the major thing is, you invaded Lebanon? That means war with Syria, Syria has a LOT invested in Lebanon, something like a million Syrians cross the border to work in Lebanon daily. Not to mention the other ties betwen the two countries, why do you think Syria kept its troops in Lebanon so long and was so reluctant to "leave"(They never truly, completely left). War with Syria most likely means war with Egypt. But even so your going to face a bitch of a guerilla war in Lebanon, and yes there are plenty of groups I could funnel money and weapons to in Lebanon, plenty, most notably, but not just, Hezbollah.

But that brings up the question, who the hell is going to rp Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and even Jordan and the Palestinians? Cause they all will be major players in this.

OOC: I apoligize for calling you out on a gomod... but please do not assess my damage... I can do that myself.

Besides that, YOU REALLY need to pay attention. I have a fantastic reason for invading Lebanon, and if you were paying attention you would have known about it 2 days ago, the reason why, AND would realize that I am NPCing Lebanon myself.

Please try and keep a closer watch. I've already lost over 200 killed in Lebanon and over 400 wounded, and that's just in teh first two days. It's already ulgy.

OOC: I said a few mortar shells hit a town? Not really much of a godmod right there, not like there was anyway you could stop the shells. But anyway, when you say you closed all your borders does that include your ports? Closing your borders is going to hurt trade. And are you evacuating ALL the ladn within range of arty and rocket fire from the Golan heights, cause thats some of your good farming land of which you don't have much, and its going to be a drain on your economy moving those people especially since they won't have a job when they move exc. And you do realize that seomwhere between 1/3 and 55% of your fresh water comes from the Golan.

But the major thing is, you invaded Lebanon? That means war with Syria, Syria has a LOT invested in Lebanon, something like a million Syrians cross the border to work in Lebanon daily. Not to mention the other ties betwen the two countries, why do you think Syria kept its troops in Lebanon so long and was so reluctant to "leave"(They never truly, completely left). War with Syria most likely means war with Egypt. But even so your going to face a bitch of a guerilla war in Lebanon, and yes there are plenty of groups I could funnel money and weapons to in Lebanon, plenty, most notably, but not just, Hezbollah.

But that brings up the question, who the hell is going to rp Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and even Jordan and the Palestinians? Cause they all will be major players in this.

[ooc: Palestine is annexed by the UAE...

If my hands weren't tied with all of these other stuff, I'd RP Syria or Egypt, but I don't think that I'd contribute that well...]

OOC: I apoligize for calling you out on a gomod... but please do not assess my damage... I can do that myself.

Besides that, YOU REALLY need to pay attention. I have a fantastic reason for invading Lebanon, and if you were paying attention you would have known about it 2 days ago, the reason why, AND would realize that I am NPCing Lebanon myself.

Please try and keep a closer watch. I've already lost over 200 killed in Lebanon and over 400 wounded, and that's just in teh first two days. It's already ulgy.

[ooc: while I'm the first to beg for reasons, what reason would Iran have to NOT go to war with Israel, seeing as they don't even recognize them as a true state or whatever...? That said, I'd be cautious about exploiting the fine tunes of diplomacy to wage war without regard, because even Iran would think twicec before actually going to war...supporting resistance groups is perhaps a realistic start so...okay...

Israel is going to run into trouble pretty soon...and I don't want to stick my pretty French fingers down the meat grinder...besides, I'll have plenty of hell with Italy anyway...]

OOC: I apoligize for calling you out on a gomod... but please do not assess my damage... I can do that myself.

Besides that, YOU REALLY need to pay attention. I have a fantastic reason for invading Lebanon, and if you were paying attention you would have known about it 2 days ago, the reason why, AND would realize that I am NPCing Lebanon myself.

Please try and keep a closer watch. I've already lost over 200 killed in Lebanon and over 400 wounded, and that's just in teh first two days. It's already ulgy.


OOC: I doesn't matter WHy your invading, just that you ARE invading, which IS going to cause Syria to go to war with you. And I'm sorry I haven't been paying attention, but as i posted in the main thread my computer went down two days ago and my computer time is extremely sketchy now.

But anyway, we need someone to rp the Arab nations, I personally would like to rp Syria but I don't care as long as we get somebody to do so.

OOC: I doesn't matter WHy your invading, just that you ARE invading, which IS going to cause Syria to go to war with you. And I'm sorry I haven't been paying attention, but as i posted in the main thread my computer went down two days ago and my computer time is extremely sketchy now.

But anyway, we need someone to rp the Arab nations, I personally would like to rp Syria but I don't care as long as we get somebody to do so.

OOC: That's fair, you can RP Syria. You'll have to start a new N/D thread and then make a new post attacking me. Realize I already have half of Lebanon (including the capital) under my control so far though.

And read the Lebanon thread btw... it will help.

Let's get ready to rumble... Israel may die... we don't want war... we want peace. We never would have invaded if we weren't invaded by Lebanon in the first place...

IC:

Israel warns Syria not to interfere, because the UN is backing our invasion as we speak.

Realize I already have half of Lebanon (including the capital) under my control so far though.

How ??? I know the Lebenese military force is not the best, but i doubt they would lose that much ground so quickly, and Syria would be in there the second you crossed the border.

How ??? I know the Lebenese military force is not the best, but i doubt they would lose that much ground so quickly, and Syria would be in there the second you crossed the border.

OOC: The Lebanese military is almost nonexistent(Both my uncle and my cousin are members of it, my uncle being an officer). Without Syrian support Lebanon would be steamrolled, although holding it would be a different story. But yes, Syria would have stepped in a while ago, to late now though.

I'll get a post up for Syria soon, should I put it here or in the Lebanese D/N thread?

OOC: The Lebanese military is almost nonexistent(Both my uncle and my cousin are members of it, my uncle being an officer). Without Syrian support Lebanon would be steamrolled, although holding it would be a different story. But yes, Syria would have stepped in a while ago, to late now though.

I'll get a post up for Syria soon, should I put it here or in the Lebanese D/N thread?

[ooc: please make it seperate...]

* Warning, satire to remove one of the ships. Through discussion with mods it came to the conclusion that only 1 was feasable to exist*

The second rail testing ship suddenly glowed with a bright blue light.. then popped out existance as if it had never been.

"sir.. wasnt there just a ship there?"

The capitan looked over at the convoy.. "mm.. no. we just built one of these. too expensive to build two"

"oh.. " *i gotta get my eyes checked* thought the ensign.


*Standing on the bow of one of the type 22's, the chronomancer chuckled.. he loved it when people did things that were not feasable.. it gave him work. He popped back to his own timeline*

/ooc hahahahaha.. no.. i had to agree that i only had 1 ship, not 2. so i had to dispose of the second one that was "there" or was it.. who knows? its not there anymore..

OCC: Ah right. Forget my previous post.

Oh, and remember these will be very slow ships, unless you have, say, 5 nuclear reactors. Gauss guns need a lot of electricity, which could be used on the rotor. And these things need charging. Hench these could only be used as bombardment or long range ship sinking. Chances these rods would spilt over a distance too. Not as great as they turn out to be.

And has this infomation been made public? Shakir has some panicing to do :D

OOC: Before this breaks down....shouldn't we get on with it? Australian ships are still off by Israel, waiting to support if and WHEN they send target information.

/ooc no, it hasnt been made public. possably the only people besides israeli or cbss troops that saw the weapon clearly in use.. was at the recieving end of it. Thats what i think at least, there could be others.

Its a prototype. nothing to worry about for a few years.

GAUSS guns wouldnt take alot of juice, they are almost entirely based off magnetic energy. Rail weapons do require alot of juice.. hence the problems we are having with it.

OOC: It takes alot of power....and your rail guns would break or be damaged after every firing possibly. Its a nasty drawback.

/ooc the railguns tested in the 80's broke after every shot. if the US military is producing them to work on ships, they must have stopped that.

OOC: The US military...not you. Its highly likely that it will be ineffective and can fire only 1-2 rounds per minute if that's the case...or a working ship to say..

Look. all of this was delt with last night. i'm not argueing with another person. drop it.

OOC: Ah, I thought Gauss guns and Railguns were the same. I'm just saying that these arn't good for ship to ship combat. Shore Bombardment only. Therefore Pakistan won't invest in them. Like the RAF dosen't have Heavy Bombers.