3 Hours Remain(21C, Closed, ATTN Australia)
Official message to Australia
3 hours remain on before the ultimatum has passed.
Jeddah, Red Sea Coast
42 F-15E's sat on the airstrip of the Prince Abdullah Air Base in Jeddah, and 20 Eurofighters to the south. The Harpoon missiles shined on the Hardpoints of the F-15E's, ready to deliver it's payload against the Australian fleet if it chose to ignore the Saudi Message. As the sun began to set, the base lit up, shining light upon the planes as they sat idlely, ready for use at a moments notice. The Patriot missile systems around the base looked to the sky, ready to shoot down anything attempting to enter the bases Airspace.
The previously dispatched fleet moved into attacking position at the top of Saudi Arabia's Red Sea coastline. The ships were ready to deal with the possiblity of defending the Dome of the Rock if need be. It would be very easy with a full spred of missiles to the heart of the enemy protests.
OOC- Do you have the list of what ships are there ? I want to know what i will be attacking.
[ooC: Attacking position? that's just plain belligerent
And what's your reason for going to war with Australia, Saudi Arabia?]
[ooC: Attacking position? that's just plain belligerent
And what's your reason for going to war with Australia, Saudi Arabia?]
(Blantent Aussie Imperialism, Movements in Somalia, and wearyness of Aussie fleet in the Red sea.) (As Mac said, a nation can choose to attack for a variety of reasons, especially considering no one in the world likes Australia right now)
(Blantent Aussie Imperialism, Movements in Somalia, and wearyness of Aussie fleet in the Red sea.) (As Mac said, a nation can choose to attack for a variety of reasons, especially considering no one in the world likes Australia right now)
[ooc: please tell me that the MAIN reason is because of Somalia...because you might make more friends that way...]
(OOC- The other stuff was leading to it, but Somalia pushed it over the edge.)
OOC: The fleet is responding to Israel needing help at Dome of the Rock. That's why they are there.
(OOC- The other stuff was leading to it, but Somalia pushed it over the edge.)
OOC:I been in Somalia for two years already. I doubt you are going to start a war up JUST NOW about it!
OOC:I been in Somalia for two years already. I doubt you are going to start a war up JUST NOW about it!
(OOC-yes i know, the House of sauds were annoyed with your invasion of Somalia, and are fed up with it and decided to take action)
OOC: That doesn't make any sense. >.> The ships I sent were also the ones I was sending up in the Spain thread (which I'll try to find).
OOC-The complications of everything you have done in the area, there, thats easier to understand(Worded alot easier)
OOC-The complications of everything you have done in the area, there, thats easier to understand(Worded alot easier)
OOC: We haven't done anything though.... so whatever...
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 03:16
OOC: I don't think he really needs a reason.
IC: Israel warns Saudi Arabia to stand down, as this is already a tense time.
OOC-The complications of everything you have done in the area, there, thats easier to understand(Worded alot easier)
[ooc: There's a UN resolution on it...just say that...]
Warning to Australia
One Hour remains until the deadline is past. This is your last chance.
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 03:27
Warning to Australia
One Hour remains until the deadline is past. This is your last chance.
OOC: Which ships are you planning to be attacking? The ones on the Coast of the Red Sea? And what is it you want him to do...?
OOC: Which ships are you planning to be attacking? The ones on the Coast of the Red Sea? And what is it you want him to do...?
OOC-On the Dujibu-whatever thread, he was ordered to remove his fleet from the red sea within the next 48 hours, or face reprocussions, and chose to ignore it.
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 03:35
OOC-On the Dujibu-whatever thread, he was ordered to remove his fleet from the red sea within the next 48 hours, or face reprocussions, and chose to ignore it.
OOC: You're already commited to Yemen aren't you? You don't have enough to take on both do you?
Haneastic
15-03-2006, 03:36
he probably does. Yemen would recieve all his army, and Australia would probably get hit by the navy and air force
OOC-On the Dujibu-whatever thread, he was ordered to remove his fleet from the red sea within the next 48 hours, or face reprocussions, and chose to ignore it.
OOC:You don't have rights to the waters. That isn't a right to attack them. Naktan will point that out, espically since they are moving to the canal and towards Israel. BTW events like this happen apart (and not on a RL time scale) and not all relative.
The United States urgently requests that Saudi Arabia reconsider its current course of military action. The last thing the world needs in these perilous times is yet another military action in a troubled portion of the world.
We also request Australia at least attempt to appease the Saudi's, and remove your ships from the area. They can aways come back once an agreement has been reached.
The United States urgently requests that Saudi Arabia reconsider its current course of military action. The last thing the world needs in these perilous times is yet another military action in a troubled portion of the world.
We also request Australia at least attempt to appease the Saudi's, and remove your ships from the area. They can aways come back once an agreement has been reached.
OOC: If they are on the way (though in range of Israel) to help Israel and have to pass through the canal, is that really a problem? The Saudi's have no right to dictate the location of the ships though. Considering that this event is months after the Spain incident potentionally.
OOC: If they are on the way (though in range of Israel) to help Israel and have to pass through the canal, is that really a problem? The Saudi's have no right to dictate the location of the ships though. Considering that this event is months after the Spain incident potentionally.
(OOC: Look, the point is, what I've suggested is the best course of action to take right about now in order to avoid conflict, regardless of the time frame. Listen to the US! Beacon of Democracy baby! *Cranks up "America, Fuck Yeah!".*)
OOC: I don't know where this three hour BS came from...or one hour or wtf...he's making up crap I think.
OOC: I don't know where this three hour BS came from...or one hour or wtf...he's making up crap I think.
(OOC: Blame it on fluid time. The best part of NS.)
[ooc: i would agree, except that his reasons are semi-legitimate...I would argue that he's being reckless right now...and I'd like it better if we had a positie post by Australia from wherever he wrote it on the issue of Somalia, because that will defuse a whole bunch of stuff going on now...]
[ooc: i would agree, except that his reasons are semi-legitimate...I would argue that he's being reckless right now...and I'd like it better if we had a positie post by Australia from wherever he wrote it on the issue of Somalia, because that will defuse a whole bunch of stuff going on now...]
i'll look...
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 04:20
[ooc: i would agree, except that his reasons are semi-legitimate...I would argue that he's being reckless right now...and I'd like it better if we had a positie post by Australia from wherever he wrote it on the issue of Somalia, because that will defuse a whole bunch of stuff going on now...]
OOC: this was the entire reason I warned Sel not to give Saudi Arabia away... if it falls into the hands of a player who likes lots of war... it could get ugly.
OOC: this was the entire reason I warned Sel not to give Saudi Arabia away... if it falls into the hands of a player who likes lots of war... it could get ugly.
[ooc: give ANYONE who likes war ANY nation and you'll get hell from it...this is all coming from Somalia and Yemen and the Dome...inevitably, it'll somehow end in war, seeing as Saudi Arabia and Australia have poised their fleets and though France may try to intervene diplomatically, there is little chance that it'll stop anything before the fighting starts...]
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 04:28
[ooc: give ANYONE who likes war ANY nation and you'll get hell from it...this is all coming from Somalia and Yemen and the Dome...inevitably, it'll somehow end in war, seeing as Saudi Arabia and Australia have poised their fleets and though France may try to intervene diplomatically, there is little chance that it'll stop anything before the fighting starts...]
OOC: Well... I have to support Australia... we have an agreement... it could get ugly quick.
OOC: Well... I have to support Australia... we have an agreement... it could get ugly quick.
it must have been deleted or its before page 68 in the OOC thread..
[ooc: give ANYONE who likes war ANY nation and you'll get hell from it...this is all coming from Somalia and Yemen and the Dome...inevitably, it'll somehow end in war, seeing as Saudi Arabia and Australia have poised their fleets and though France may try to intervene diplomatically, there is little chance that it'll stop anything before the fighting starts...]
OOC-(Im not going to war for the hell of it, you are threating peace in Eastern Africa(Which is convinently a 10 min flight from SA, if you did not notice, i am also getting sick of the massive overwhelming amount of bickering and whining in this RP, can't you guys just have fun ? Isn't that what NS is for in the first place ? I hate to go on a rant, but Asbena, please, actualy try to rp besides finding each little way that my plan is wrong or un-legit)
Hataria- I only have ONE Mechinized battation in Yemen(I have around 12 all together.
As for the war part, yes, i enjoy war, but for the hell of it, no. If any nation should be talking about legitmate reasons of war, Israel should not be one of them. Sure, my reasons may be semi-legit, but was the Israeli attacks on the Six day way legitamate ? Was the invasion of Iraq legitimate ? I suggest you all get over yourselves and get on with the rp.
OOC-(Im not going to war for the hell of it, you are threating peace in Eastern Africa(Which is convinently a 10 min flight from SA, if you did not notice, i am also getting sick of the massive overwhelming amount of bickering and whining in this RP, can't you guys just have fun ? Isn't that what NS is for in the first place ? I hate to go on a rant, but Asbena, please, actualy try to rp besides finding each little way that my plan is wrong or un-legit)
Hataria- I only have ONE Mechinized battation in Yemen(I have around 12 all together.
As for the war part, yes, i enjoy war, but for the hell of it, no. If any nation should be talking about legitmate reasons of war, Israel should not be one of them. Sure, my reasons may be semi-legit, but was the Israeli attacks on the Six day way legitamate ? Was the invasion of Iraq legitimate ? I suggest you all get over yourselves and get on with the rp.
Hataria isn't here.
Sel Appa doesn't want constant war, haven't you read that already!? I'm trying to AVOID it.
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 04:37
OOC: Actually... both the Six Day War and Iraq were legitimate.
(OOC: So you'll take my suggestion then. It's the only way! Lol.)
*Cough* Search found something: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10572478#post10572478
OOC-(Im not going to war for the hell of it, you are threating peace in Eastern Africa(Which is convinently a 10 min flight from SA, if you did not notice, i am also getting sick of the massive overwhelming amount of bickering and whining in this RP, can't you guys just have fun ? Isn't that what NS is for in the first place ? I hate to go on a rant, but Asbena, please, actualy try to rp besides finding each little way that my plan is wrong or un-legit)
Hataria- I only have ONE Mechinized battation in Yemen(I have around 12 all together.
As for the war part, yes, i enjoy war, but for the hell of it, no. If any nation should be talking about legitmate reasons of war, Israel should not be one of them. Sure, my reasons may be semi-legit, but was the Israeli attacks on the Six day way legitamate ? Was the invasion of Iraq legitimate ? I suggest you all get over yourselves and get on with the rp.
[ooc: was Australia's invasion of Somalia legitimate [and I'm still waiting for that post...]? no...look at the outcry from the world... if you have good reasons, you might have more friends :)]
Aramaki said, "That will be business for another day. It shouldn't be till at least 2015 before we can consider pulling out."
[ooc: what does that say? consider?]
[ooc: was Australia's invasion of Somalia legitimate [and I'm still waiting for that post...]? no...look at the outcry from the world... if you have good reasons, you might have more friends :)]
OOC- Well yes, but i would prefere getting the Rp actually going, without half of the rp'ers OOC'ly compaining about EVERY LITTLE THING ! In the nearly a year i have been here, the only nation i have ever seen even aproach this Insubordinate level is the Helghan Empire in his first weeks.
OOC- Well yes, but i would prefere getting the Rp actually going, without half of the rp'ers OOC'ly compaining about EVERY LITTLE THING ! In the nearly a year i have been here, the only nation i have ever seen even aproach this Insubordinate level is the Helghan Empire in his first weeks.
[ooc: if this is done for the debate, then start the thread...but France will not like the results...]
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 04:43
OOC- Well yes, but i would prefere getting the Rp actually going, without half of the rp'ers OOC'ly compaining about EVERY LITTLE THING ! In the nearly a year i have been here, the only nation i have ever seen even aproach this Insubordinate level is the Helghan Empire in his first weeks.
OOC: Flashes of IAN? (Dare I speak his name) ;) ...
Hey.. let's just be positive about this and have fun... but let's also be realistic. And BTW... complaining about complaining isn't helping at all.
OOC: Flashes of IAN? (Dare I speak his name) ;) ...
Hey.. let's just be positive about this and have fun... but let's also be realistic. And BTW... complaining about complaining isn't helping at all.
[ooc: he wasn't here when the most detested and abominable name wrecked havoc on this world...]
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 04:45
[ooc: he wasn't here when the most detested and abominable name wrecked havoc on this world...]
OOC: :p
OOC: Flashes of IAN? (Dare I speak his name) ;) ...
Hey.. let's just be positive about this and have fun... but let's also be realistic. And BTW... complaining about complaining isn't helping at all.
OOC- I relize that, just need to get my rant out. :), but Seriously, Asbena, can you try and be reasonable ?
You understand you do this, we call on our allies...but thing is I don't WANT A DAMN WAR WITH YOU! Sel is getting pissed, your motives are crap for one and we just got over a HUGE misunderstanding with mac, LET THE DAMN THING GO.
I'm going to bed, last post here for me for now.
OOC- I relize that, just need to get my rant out. :), but Seriously, Asbena, can you try and be reasonable ?
[ooc: the question is not CAN...the question is WILL...]
[ooc: the question is not CAN...the question is WILL...]
>.> Did you read the above post? I am not going to press Sel anymore...diplomacy first. If that fails then war... a sudden attack is possible, but is stupid and senseless. Up to him.
You understand you do this, we call on our allies...but thing is I don't WANT A DAMN WAR WITH YOU! Sel is getting pissed, your motives are crap for one and we just got over a HUGE misunderstanding with mac, LET THE DAMN THING GO.
I'm going to bed, last post here for me for now.
[ooc: call on the allies, I really do think that Saudi Arabia really wants this war with you...on that note...]
The Republic of France is truly anxious to try and resolve this crisis from unnecessary bloodshed. We open Paris to host dialogues between your two countries to come to some diplomatic resolution on the matter. We strongly encourage both nations to cleave to peaceful means and we further desire an eviction of war from this crisis. Will both nations accept this proposal?
>.> Did you read the above post? I am not going to press Sel anymore...diplomacy first. If that fails then war... a sudden attack is possible, but is stupid and senseless. Up to him.
[ooc: I read it... after I posted it...]
You understand you do this, we call on our allies...but thing is I don't WANT A DAMN WAR WITH YOU! Sel is getting pissed, your motives are crap for one and we just got over a HUGE misunderstanding with mac, LET THE DAMN THING GO.
I'm going to bed, last post here for me for now.
OOC-
Do you want me to pull up all the stuff you have done(Massive Fleet, TFD, Logistics from hell) ?
As far as i can tell, nearly the entire world has shunned you. I dont perticularly want war with you either, i just want your damn fleet out of the Red sea, which you refuse to do.
(OOC: Did my requests earlier in IC disappear? Were they not seen, or... what?)
(OOC: Did my requests earlier in IC disappear? Were they not seen, or... what?)
OOC- Yes, i just saw it
IC:
Saudi Arabia would attened a peace confrence in Paris.
(OOC: Did my requests earlier in IC disappear? Were they not seen, or... what?)
[ooc: I think the word is "ignored"...]
OOC- Yes, i just saw it
IC:
Saudi Arabia would attened a peace confrence in Paris.
[ooc: that is happy news :D]
Seeing as the Saudi Kingdom is willing to send a delegate to Paris, will Australia come as well?
[ooc: seeing as the Aussies have hit the sack, I'll leave it open for him to decide...if there is any real protest, I'll wait to post a new thread...]
[ooc: I think the word is "ignored"...]
(OOC: EDIT: Forget it...)
Seathorn
15-03-2006, 06:34
(OOC: Well that's just great. What's the point in being the US if it's just ignored... And There's something strangely antagonistic in your attitude. Let's just be honest here. You don't think I'm up for this do you?)
ooc:
We just haven't seen much from the US, that's all.
France, Spain, Italy and Australia appear to be those most involved in the African conflicts, so unless the US starts to try to do something, lots, little attention is going to be paid to the US (yes, you issued a warning to SA, I know)
ooc:
We just haven't seen much from the US, that's all.
France, Spain, Italy and Australia appear to be those most involved in the African conflicts, so unless the US starts to try to do something, lots, little attention is going to be paid to the US (yes, you issued a warning to SA, I know)
(OOC: Yeah. I realize. Post was edited. Also, it was more a request to both sides. I'll just have to step up some more then.)
[ooc: blame No Taxes...the world is learning what happens when the US turns isolationist...we're happy to have an ACTIVE player playing the USA for perhaps the first time ever... [either that or it's been a realll long time since the USA ever did anything...].]
[ooc: blame No Taxes...the world is learning what happens when the US turns isolationist...we're happy to have an ACTIVE player playing the USA for perhaps the first time ever... [either that or it's been a realll long time since the USA ever did anything...].]
(OOC: I apologize for my previous comment... I don't usually say things like that. Really, sorry. TBH, it looked like he was doing quite a bit, though a check of the post dates tell otherwise. Sorry again.)
[ooc: since France is waiting for Australia's reply to the proposal to open dialogue in Paris to resolve this matter, I'm hoping that nothing serious comes out of it.
And don't worry USA...I saw your post get crammed with 4716389742826897578743225473738646383727811648372798455987984964930298211987593891683269278157849397 23821978438727819654830918323774625 different orders for military weapons [of which, most if not all are actually sold by private corporations that require US grants to sell to foreign nations, to whom the US rarely if ever allows the sale of new, modern equipment]... If you stay active, things will settle out for the better, and perhaps people will be smarter if they know that the USA will do something about it, rather than France...]
OOC: Mornin....Yes I said diplomacy first, but my ships have cleared the canal by now ICly and would be in the mediterranian.
Geneticon
15-03-2006, 12:43
OOC: Don't get discouraged... I've had 4 or 5 people ask me for Sabra production rights.
[ooc: is there any crisis involved with this anymore? or do you still need that conference?]