NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: This is to the folowing players:

India-Waterhelper
Iran-Safehaven2(Alt Aus2)
Islamic Federation-Palixia
Kurdistan-NPC (controlled by Sel Appa)
Lebanon-NPC (controlled by Geneticon)
Pakistan-Wakenfield
Saudi Arabia-Willink
United Arab Emirates-Zactarn Prime

And any other Arab nations I may have missed.

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Message sent to Muslim world by Israel:

As you know... our heritages have long clashed over the Temple Mount is Jerusalem. Now, with the East side in our control through the treaty, we feel that it is our perogative to do what we want with teh mount.

Our goal is to establish peace. Within the past few months, Israeli civil unrest has been becoming out of control.

(Attached is a video of Israeli's with tools, rushing towards the Dome of the Rock, while Israeli police hold them back)

Many of our citizens and police have been killed in this time. We have come to the conclusion, that we cannot hold our citizens back forever. They are determined to rush at the Dome of the Rock, and tear it down brick by brick with their bare hands.

This is a dire situation. We wish to keep peace with our Middle Eastern brothers. This tension is mounting. Our police will only be able to hold the civilians off for another 3 hours.

You have two hours to repsond to this message. We suggest you drop all matters and pay close attention to this, then give your response.

You have a choice to make, you may allow us to move the Dome of the Rock safely to Mecca, which we can assure you will be handled with great care. The building will arrive in one piece and great condition, and Israel will make all the arrangements and pay for the move ourselves. We will even pay for it's upkeep in Mecca.

Or... you can tell us that we do not have permission to move the dome, in which case it will be destroyed by the citizens an hour after the deadline.

We are sorry that this situation exists, but it is a result of your holy dome that this problem has arisen. We will give you great honor by preserving your great structure, but ONLY with your approval.

You have 2 hours to respond... the clock in ticking. Once you have come to a conclusion, Saudi Arabia must give us the reponse.

We beg you to think clearly, and make a decision that is in the best interest off your building and the world. Please make a decision that will establish peace.

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OOC: You have 1 RL day to respond to this. The Arab nations may discuss this matter in this thread, via messages to each other. When you have reached aa decision, have the Saudi Arabia player make an official response.

Be wary what you do... :D

Message sent to Muslim world by Israel:

As you know... our heritages have long clashed over the Temple Mount is Jerusalem. Now, with the East side in our control through the treaty, we feel that it is our perogative to do what we want with teh mount.

Our goal is to establish peace. Within the past few months, Israeli civil unrest has been becoming out of control.

(Attached is a video of Israeli's with tools, rushing towards the Dome of the Rock, while Israeli police hold them back)

Many of our citizens and police have been killed in this time. We have come to the conclusion, that we cannot hold our citizens back forever. They are determined to rush at the Dome of the Rock, and tear it down brick by brick with their bare hands.

This is a dire situation. We wish to keep peace with our Middle Eastern brothers. This tension is mounting. Our police will only be able to hold the civilians off for another 3 hours.

You have two hours to repsond to this message. We suggest you drop all matters and pay close attention to this, then give your response.

You have a choice to make, you may allow us to move the Dome of the Rock safely to Mecca, which we can assure you will be handled with great care. The building will arrive in one piece and great condition, and Israel will make all the arrangements and pay for the move ourselves. We will even pay for it's upkeep in Mecca.

Or... you can tell us that we do not have permission to move the dome, in which case it will be destroyed by the citizens an hour after the deadline.

We are sorry that this situation exists, but it is a result of your holy dome that this problem has arisen. We will give you great honor by preserving your great structure, but ONLY with your approval.

You have 2 hours to respond... the clock in ticking. Once you have come to a conclusion, Saudi Arabia must give us the reponse.

We beg you to think clearly, and make a decision that is in the best interest off your building and the world. Please make a decision that will establish peace.

_____________________

OOC: You have 1 RL day to respond to this. The Arab nations may discuss this matter in this thread, via messages to each other. When you have reached aa decision, have the Saudi Arabia player make an official response.

Be wary what you do... :D

OOC: I know I'm not part of the 21C RP, but still... Ho'shit you could have just opened a can of serious blood sucking worms. You know there will 99.99999% likely be a very, very angry backlash. Still, it'll make for a great RP to watch, lol.

OOC: I know I'm not part of the 21C RP, but still... Ho'shit you could have just opened a can of serious blood sucking worms. You know there will 99.99999% likely be a very, very angry backlash. Still, it'll make for a great RP to watch, lol.

OOC: This has been in the works a long time... check out the summit to see.

Like I said... be wary.

This is an interesting situation, however, I must know weither it is better to save the DotR by moving it to Mecca, or leave it undisturbed to be destoryed. Neither way will be uncontroversal, and since i don't have time to Cavass Pakistan on which way is the most popular, I will make a desition here and now.

The DotR may be moved, on the terms that the graves are undisturbed.

This, as you understand, may get me in trouble from the people who would have in the other way. But, I had little choice but to do so.

That is all.

OOC: Interesting... any other thoughts from the nations?

[OOC: ALL MUSLIM NATIONS!!! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

If you don't reply and you don't agree, your people are going to be very angry at Israel, and France wouldn't like that...

If you don't reply and you do agree...you should still reply...

France would like to see this happen, but we think that Israel should not act without the input of Muslim nations, which means that you need to reply...]

[OOC: ALL MUSLIM NATIONS!!! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

If you don't reply and you don't agree, your people are going to be very angry at Israel, and France wouldn't like that...

If you don't reply and you do agree...you should still reply...

France would like to see this happen, but we think that Israel should not act without the input of Muslim nations, which means that you need to reply...]

OOC: What he said... :D

The Lebanon government is too broken down to respond to this message. Lebanon is currently in shambles. In this case, they will adhere to the wise counsel of Pakistan.

OOC- I can decide weather my government would be in shock, or in total anger. I can assure you that 1,000's of muslims would journey to DOR, and hold it themselves.

[ooc: what is SA's opinion?]

OOC- I can decide weather my government would be in shock, or in total anger. I can assure you that 1,000's of muslims would journey to DOR, and hold it themselves.

OOC: You can't... the border is stroctly closed by the military.

(Check my N/D thread for more info.)

Besides... 3 hours isn't enough time... and if you were percieved as a threat... you are taking a huge risk.

OOC: Geneticon would this apply to our Somalian people because they are Muslim?

[ooc: what is SA's opinion?]

OOC: That's what I'm waiting for.

OOC: Geneticon would this apply to our Somalian people because they are Muslim?

OOC: I suppose... but they would likely just agree with whatever Australia thought.

On behalf of the Somalis, Australia urges Israel to hold the Dome of the Rock at all costs.

Message to Israel:
India will take no official stand as India is mostly Hindu, but since we are the second largest nation by number of Muslims we encourage you to move the dome of the rock.

OOC: 3 RL hours left... so far the consensus seems to be to move it.

Iran will make it simple for Israel to understand, touch our holy sites and it is war, a total war.

OOC: Seriously, this is the STUPEDEST thing you can possibly do. You think terrorism is bad in the real world now? You think anti-semitism(sp?) is bad in the real world now? Your asking for the Jews of the world to be persecuted, and it won't just be in the Middle East.

Iran will make it simple for Israel to understand, touch our holy sites and it is war, a total war.

OOC: Seriously, this is the STUPEDEST thing you can possibly do. You think terrorism is bad in the real world now? You think anti-semitism(sp?) is bad in the real world now? Your asking for the Jews of the world to be persecuted, and it won't just be in the Middle East.

your a little late.

OOC: Could you direct to me thread where you moved teh rock?

OOC: Could you direct to me thread where you moved teh rock?

OOC: Haven't done that yet... been very busy today... I'll write a reply to all this after dinner.

Rather than ignore Iran's comments, we will accept them... and consider that we make our decision an hour after the reply.

OOC: I'd expect similar reactions from other Muslim nations, with even more violent reactions from actual Muslims across the world.

OOC: I'd expect similar reactions from other Muslim nations, with even more violent reactions from actual Muslims across the world.

Yep. XD

Although we can not request the same level of attack by Iran, moving the Dome of rock will result in the following things:

1. All Israeli citizens shall be deported from the country, all Israeli buisnesses and homes shall be razed.

2. Saudi Arabia shall close it's border with Israel, and fire upon anyone even approaching it.

3. Saudi arabia shall not report open acts of planning to conspire to terror-strike israel(Which will be nearly half the people in the country)

(Imagine the same effect if an a hijacked airline is crashed into the venetian by terroristsm, and how the extreamist christians would react)

If Isreal doesn't back down from this theat to move the Dome of Rock. Turkey will break all relations with the nation of Isreal.

OOC: To think Turkey was one of Isreal closet allies in Middle East and you had to do this...nice job...everyone in Muslim World is going to go crazy...

Safehaven do you still have MSN?

If Isreal doesn't back down from this theat to move the Dome of Rock. Turkey will break all relations with the nation of Isreal.

OOC: To think Turkey was one of Isreal closet allies in Middle East and you had to do this...nice job...everyone in Muslim World is going to go crazy...

Safehaven do you still have MSN?

OOC: There is no Turkey yet, that I am aware of...

OOC: There is no Turkey yet, that I am aware of...
OOC:Yeah we have Turkey player which is me, I been confirm already for a while now....

Australia will attack Saudi Arabia if even attempts attack on the Dome of the Rock by civilians or otherwise, Saudi Arabia's breaking of our contract and invading Yemen is reason enough to start a war. The religous monument MUST be protected at all costs. Australia would send troops if it were able to, but only if they are attacked will Australian troops in Somalia move to Israel.

OOC: Ok... I'll take your word for it... where is your N/D? I would like to talk some things over with Turkey.

IC:

Seeing how we recieved no official answer from Saudi Arabia (OOC: only threats), and seeing how the Islamic nations can not seem to agree, we will accept Pakistan's answer as the official one, as it was really the only answer. We also thank India for their support.

Thank you Australia... we will be friends for a long time Israel can see.

OOC: Saudi Arabia hasn't exactly been on Australia's good side, I.e Threats....suddenly terminating a 20 year contract. So it wasn't a hard decision lol!

Safehaven do you still have MSN?


OOC: Yes, but not on this comp.

Grunting as they went, the group of men slowly slid the heavy mortar into place. It was a new piece, recently delivered by Iran among dozens of other weapons, to Irans allies in Lebanon and Syria. Finally getting the mortar in place the first shell plopped in before quickly thumping out, heading towards the tiny Israel town of Gonen which sat less than a mile from the newly freed Golan Heights. Two men struggled to get another heavy 120mm shell into the tube and another thump was heard. The shells were huge, 120mm was a small artillery piece and would do a lot of damage. After a minute of firing they packed up and scurried off to a new position, but not before they'd left several ruins in Gonen, a 120mm shell would smash a house. The mortar attack was by far not the only thing that was occuring that day, dozens of other attacks raged over the border, most minor and inconsiquencial happenings, but many like the mortar strike weren't. Northern Israel would be on the recieving end of heavy mortar and rocket fire every day, Iran was prepared to make sure Israel got no rest. Tons of weapons, many of them modern equipment purchased in Spain by Iran, were being delivered to Hezbollah and other groups like it in Lebanon, Syria and Palestine, and no secret was being made of it. In fact, Iran was asking prominent and rich Muslims worldwide to bankroll the actions occuring in northern Israel. For now the weapons sent were just rockets, mortars, light artillery pieces and the ammunition for them and small arms, although heavier equipment, and more direct support, has been promised should Israel cross the border in anyway.


OOC: Pretty shitty, but I'm busy and I had to put some kind of summary up. I'll do something much better tommorrow.

Also, Ottoman Khaif, check tg's.

/ooc 2 things.
#1 I think you ment to post that.. here http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473206

#2 is any of that Secret?