NationStates Jolt Archive

January of 1950

The Islamists have gained control of three of the republics of the FAS (Iran, Caspian Republic, and Pakhtunistan) and have driven government forces out of the republics. Bands of Mujahideen have been making incursions into the Western Frontier territory, controlled by the military, and have seized the local oilfields for the United Islamic Republic.

Meanwhile, the Communists are in control of 4 republics (Sindh, Balochistan, Greater Bengal, and Dakshina Nad), and have driven government forces out of their republics. However, an attempt to seize the Indian Navy based in Madras failed, as the fleet fled to Mumbai. Naxalite Infantry divisions have been busy trying to secure the vast area controlled by the Peoples Democratic Republic of South Asia, by doing things such as stopping riots threatening merchant establishments. They have been un-able to mount any offensives.

The republics still loyal to Yahya Khans government (Agastan, Khalistan, Ladakh, and Manmasseh as well as the Union Territories of the Western Frontier and the Andaman and Nicobar Islands), meanwhile, have been in a state of dis-array, as the military has been putting down local rebels trying to assist either the Communists or the Islamists. This has rendered them un-able to make any offensive moves. Meanwhile, in the Western Frontier, Mujahideen Divisions have been seizing oil fields in the name of the UIR, leaving local forces based in Bandar Abbas and Tabriz to try and stop their incursions. Meanwhile, any incursions into the small republic of Manmasseh by the Naxalites has lead to disaster for the invaders, as the defending Jewish militias have proved to be more than a match for the poorly-trained Naxalites.

Side Note: Although the Communists and Islamists are worlds apart doctrine-wise, there is a general agreement that neither side will attack each other. At least, not until they have taken down the Central Government.

Primary Bases of Operation for the Islamists:

Qom (Capital)
Kabul
Kandahar
Tehran
Rasht
Peshawar

Primary Bases of Operation for the Communists:

Calcutta (Capital)
Dhaka
Madras
Bangalore
Hyderabad
Karachi
Quetta

Primary Bases of Operation for the FAS:

Agra (Capital)
Lahore
Leh
Mumbai
Lucknow
Srinigar
Chittagong

Leaders of the Islamists:
Seyyed Ruhollah Khomeini (Caliph)
Mohammed Zahir Shah
Mirza Kuchak Khan

Leaders of the Communists:
Charu Majumdar
Aga Khan III
Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy (Premier)
Mir Ahmed Yar Khan

Leaders of the FAS:
Yahya Khan (President)
Sengge Namgyal II
JFR Jacob PVSM
Tara Singh
Jawaharlal Nehru

Britain makes a formal offer of military aid to the official government of the FAS.

The following troops have been made available for dispatch within two months if necessary. With further reinforcments available upon call up of the Territorial Army.

17th Independent Alpine Brigade (1 highly trained alpine brigade)
Army Air Auxillery (1 transport helicopter unit and 1 highly trained pilot unit for helicopters)
1st Army Headquarters (HQ unit)
1st Mechanised Division (1 highly trained mechanised division)

Along with air and naval support provided by elements of the Indian Ocean Fleet:
1 attack submarine unit
10 destroyers, 2 squadrons of 5.
20 corvettes, 1 patrol of 20.
10 frigates, 1 flotilla of 10.
40 missile/torpedo boats, 1 group of 40.
1 Heavy missile cruiser(HMS Carlisle)
1 Light missile cruisers(HMS Nottingham)

and 1 Fleet carrier battlegroup (HMS Eagle) temporarily seconded from the Pacific Fleet.

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In response to Oman, Kuwait etc. requests, the following units have been dipatched to Middle Eastern Commonwealth borders with Pakistan, Iran etc.

16th Independent Air Assault Brigade (1 elite paratrooper brigade)
18th Independent Marine Mechanised Brigade (1 elite mechanised brigade of marines)
Along with 1 pilot and a C54 aircraft unit

Germany responds to the call of the Middle Eastern Countries and sends the Brandenburg Army Group of 2 Elite Mechanized Infantry Divisons, 1 TA-183 and Elite Pilot, 1 Mechanized Artillery and Mechanized Flak

I now have the maps ready for the first couple of month's conflict. No foreign troops have arrived yet and it is the first few days of the Civil War. I will take command of the splinter nations and TLS will control the FAS. No troops built this year will see action until the third turn (6 months). Foreign troops will arrive next turn (2 months away).

Any orders from the FAS will need to be TGed to me ASAP so that I can begin the conflict.

The Syrian Air Force, consisting of 100 Saab 29 fighter bombers and associated pilots, along with one mountain brigade, can move to Oman or Kuwait if they desire our help in securing their borders.

The USEA mobilizes the following units to be shipped through Burma to Agartala in two months:
(Point of origin in brackets)

1st Marine Light infantry Brigade (Nha Trang)
2nd Marine Air Support Wing [AD1 Skyraider light bomber unit] (Nha Trang)
1x Expert pilot (Nha Trang)

1st Army Head Quarters Unit (Saigon Military Acadamy)
2nd Infantry Corps (Saigon Military Acadamy)
3rd Infantry Corps (Saigon Military Acadamy)
5th Mechanized Infantry division (Xam Nua)
6th Airborne Brigade (Hanoi)

1st Air Transport wing [C47 transport unit] (Hanoi)
1x Expert pilot (Hanoi)


The Marines, their aircraft and the Airborne brigade will fly to Agartala and the rest will travel by rail through Burma. Mean while a squadron of destroyers will leave Cam Ranh for the Indian ocean where it will blockade all rebel shipping.

OOC: Just for the record, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10569144&postcount=31) is each countries military at the start of the war, and I'd put the economies but the Economic Thread isn't working for me :(.

South Africa makes an offer of assistance as well, volunteering to send the following forces to support the FAS government:


4th Mechanized Infantry Division (elite)
6th Mountain Brigade (elite)


These forces will depart Durban as soon as they are assembled, and will coordinate with British and other allied troops to assist the FAS in putting down the rebellion. If desired, a squadron of the South African Navy may be sent as well.

(OOC: Whew, looks like Jolt was fixed :))

The FAS accepts all foreign aid, including troops, stating that "the twin scourges of Communism and Islamism are too powerful for us to defeat on our own."

I will act out the first couple of turns this afternoon (1st turn, just indians, 2nd turn foreign reinforcements begin to arrive) and post results later. I have general strategies from most people, but what is the general aim of the USEA forces? Any particular regions they wish to attack?

January/February

1st Turn Results:

FAS wins initiative, then the Communists, then Islamists.

Weather is typical tropic winter, mud on northern plains, bad going in mountainous and hilly regions.

FAS Turn

1 Light Infantry division from Tibetan border airlifted (using 4 transport units) to Chittagong on the Burmese border.

Armoured division from Lahore is moved to Peshawar.

Armoured division from Agra is moved using stratgic rail move to (Western) Hyderabad.

Navy (1 corvette unit) is moved towards the Persian Gulf to start blockade tactics.

The HQ in Persia, under threat from Islamic attack is moved North towards Tabriz.

Communist Turn

The Two Light Infantry divisions in Calcutta and Dacca launch an attack on the recently arrived light infantry at Chittagong. The defending infantry just hang on and survive the assault, though they are disordered in doing so. The first Indians to die in battle in the civil war. Though disordered, it seems that they can hold on for next turn and relief from USEA forces, being airlifted in and moving by rail from Burma.

Elsewhere, a light division from (Eastern) Hyderabad moves, by rail, to Nagpur.

Islamist Turn

A light infantry division and mechanised division from Persia move to just outside Tabriz to be in a position to attack the garrison and HQ there next turn.

A Mechanised infantry division in Afghanistan moves towards Kabul, hoping to aid the garrison there.

A mechanised infantry division in Persia moves towards Banadar Abbas to try to attack it in the next few turns. An Infantry divison from Afghanistan does the same.

Summary

Not a lot of action this turn, mostly maneovering to set up attacks next turn. Though the disrupted unit in Chittagong could be in trouble if the Communists can attack it before the USEA brigade can be airlifted in.

I will act out the first couple of turns this afternoon (1st turn, just indians, 2nd turn foreign reinforcements begin to arrive) and post results later. I have general strategies from most people, but what is the general aim of the USEA forces? Any particular regions they wish to attack?

The Marines and Airborne will go south to secure Chittagong while the army will make a push on Dhaka

The Korean Government has finalized its contribution to help defend the rightful Government of Yahya Khan:

Korean Expeditionary Force:

1 attack submarine unit
1 Mountain Warfare Brigade
1 Parachute Brigade (and accompanying C47 Unit)
1 unit of IL-28/H-5 Light Bombers
2 units of Pilots
1 Infantry Division

The submarines will be to intercept supply shipments to rebel forces (if any), and the Bombers will provide air support. The troops and all land forces and air forces will be sent via overland train to Chittagong.

Ayub Khan, leader of the opposition to Yahya Khan, makes a suprise statement stating that he is throwing his support behind the FAS in the Civil War, stating that "any dis-agreements that he had with the President pale in comparison to the threats of communism and islamism to the Federated Asian States". General Yahya Khan then allowed Ayub to return to the FAS to serve in the military. Promoting him to Field Marshal in command of the Western Front, this is seen largely as a move that Yahya Khan would rather not make but has to, in order to secure the support of the people. Ayubs positioning is also interesting; he will be put in charge of defending the Western Garrisons that are under seige. If he fails, he will be seen as an incompetant man who could not defend the Western Garrisons. If he succeeds, he will be seen as a man who could repel some rag-tag attackers (and that's not saying much).

Ayubs positioning is also interesting; he will be put in charge of defending the Western Garrisons that are under seige. If he fails, he will be seen as an incompetant man who could not defend the Western Garrisons. If he succeeds, he will be seen as a man who could repel some rag-tag attackers (and that's not saying much).

Looks like he may be in trouble then, the Islamists have some good troops facing those garrisons...

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The Marines and Airborne will go south to secure Chittagong while the army will make a push on Dhaka

OK will do.

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The Korean Government has finalized its contribution to help defend the rightful Government of Yahya Khan:

Korean Expeditionary Force:

1 attack submarine unit
1 Mountain Warfare Brigade
1 Parachute Brigade (and accompanying C47 Unit)
1 unit of IL-28/H-5 Light Bombers
2 units of Pilots
1 Infantry Division

The submarines will be to intercept supply shipments to rebel forces (if any), and the Bombers will provide air support. The troops and all land forces and air forces will be sent via overland train to Chittagong.

Right got it. The Korean troops may have to wait until next turn, as much of the rail infrastructure in Burma is already dedicated to USEA useage and it takes time to organise other modes of transport. The subs will go into action imediately alongside the British naval contribution, they will be involved mainly in stopping supplies and arms getting to the Rebels.

March/April

2nd Turn Results:

FAS wins initiative luckily, then the Communists, then Islamists.

Weather is typical tropic early spring, mud on northern plains, bad going in mountainous and hilly regions.

FAS Turn

A light division from the Tibetan border moves to Afghanistan and waits for reinforcements alongside and armoured division outside Kabul.

An Armoured division from Western Hyderabad moves towards Bandar Abbas to attempt to relieve the defenders there.

New Allies:

Britain.

Bulk of Indian fleet moves into the Maldives region, though 1 missile cruiser unit, 1 corvette patrol and 1 destroyer squadron sally forth from Rangoon harbour to patrol the Andaman islands, Nicobar islands and Ceylon area for smuggling in aid of the communists. 2 Merchant marine units from the PDRSA are detained and handed over to the custody of the FAS to do with as they please.

A HQ unit and a mech division utilise the Suez Canal and head for Bombay. An alpine unit (Gurkas) and a marine unit are airlifted to Bombay to begin operations against the Communists. A British airborne unit and transport land in Oman.

Germany

2 Mech divisions, 1 fighter, 1 mech artillery and 1 mech flak unit are transported to Oman and Saudi Arabia to control the border there.

USEA

1 airborne brigade, 1 marine light infantry brigade are airlifted to Chittagong along with their transport. An army HQ, 2 inf corps and a mech division are headed for Dacca via Burmese rail.

Communist turn

1 light infantry unit moves from Dacca (relinquishing it to the approaching USEA forces) and aatacks a nearby FAS Light Infantry division. In a battle which could have easily gone either way, the FAS unit is destroyed but leaves the attacker disrupted.

One Light Infantry division is moved from Dacca to defend Calcutta.

One Light infantry division moved to East Hyderabad from Nagpur to defend Madras from British forces. The mountainous terrain here gives them an advantage over any attacker.

Islamist Turn

1 mech division, 1 light infantry division launch an attack upon the besieged garrison at Tabriz. In bitter street fighting and after repeated assaults the attackers break through and take the city. The defending garrison is all but wiped out (survivors taken prisoner) as is the army HQ there. The attackers lose a light infantry division in the fighting and the remaining mechanised infantry is disordered.

One mechanised division and one light infantry division, perhaps inspired by the success of the attack to the North, launch an attack upon Bander Abbas, knowing a FAS armoured division is on it's way. The attackers don't fare so well here. The mechanised unit defending manages to disorder both attacking units and no ground is gained or lost.

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Local commanders on all sides call for additional reinforcements and in particular army HQ units to reorganise their troops.

Next turn:

Korean troops arrive in the theatre and foreign troops already present wil begin offensive operations, all sides are eager to claim the first victory ahead of their rivals.

In a message to the international community the Peaple's Republis of South Asia has underlined the goals of their uprising:

1- The ouster of the illegitimate millitary dictatorship which deposed the legitimate democratic representative government of the people of South Asia.

2- Carrying out an agenda for the restoration of the principles of democracy iin the nation and upholding national elections.

3-To put the membership of South Asia in any international orginisation before the South Asian Parlament once restored to the hands of the people, this is to verify the legitamacy of the membership.

4-To seek peaceful comprimise with the republics which do not want to be part of South Asia, this is not limited to the possibility of holding plebicites in such areas.

The People's republic asks from various nations who have deemed it nessecery to entagle themselves in the violence which is yet to come to respectfully reconsider as we have no quarrel with them. We hope that you will withdraw is the bloodshed of your men is unessecary in this matter of internal affairs.

We ask the international community to ignore the dictatorship's propoganda, we are not the Trotskiests who strive for world domination, nor are we the fanatics who would use weopons of no honor against our rivals; We are not the red communists of Russia and Germany. But we are the people who strive for a government of the people, by the people for the people.

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Secret IC:

The agents of the people begin to spread our plight in the dictatorship controlled areas, their aim is to vest the spirit of the revolution into those who remain undecided in their path.

Attempts of contact are made with several army officers and politicians who are thought to not to be too supportive of the dictatorship and were strong supporters of former president M. Jinnah. Contact is also attempted with Jawaharlal Nehru, one of the major leaders in the FAS to obtain his opinion and perhaps work out a comprimise to restore democracy to the nation.

In a message to the international community the People's Republic of South Asia has underlined the goals of their uprising:

1- The ouster of the illegitimate millitary dictatorship which deposed the legitimate democratic representative government of the people of South Asia.

2- Carrying out an agenda for the restoration of the principles of democracy iin the nation and upholding national elections.

3-To put the membership of South Asia in any international orginisation before the South Asian Parliment once restored to the hands of the people, this is to verify the legitamacy of the membership.

4-To seek peaceful comprimise with the republics which do not want to be part of South Asia, this is not limited to the possibility of holding plebicites in such areas.

The People's republic asks from various nations who have deemed it nessecery to entagle themselves in the violence which is yet to come to respectfully reconsider as we have no quarrel with them. We hope that you will withdraw is the bloodshed of your men is unessecary in this matter of internal affairs.

We ask the international community to ignore the dictatorship's propoganda, we are not the Trotskiests who strive for world domination, nor are we the fanatics who would use weopons of no honor against our rivals; We are not the red communists of Russia and Germany. But we are the people who strive for a government of the people, by the people for the people.




A response from The United South East Asian States is sent to The People's Republic of South Asia.

Comrades, the government of the USEA have asked me to send this message, your goals are admirable and just but you path is not.
True socialism and equality for all men will never be gained by force of arms but by force of words. Socialism born of death develops an unshakeable addiction for it and becomes yet another oppressive state.
Even now our forces are moving to protect people of the Federated Asian States from being subjected to a possible autocratic regime.
Believe me comrades we do not wish for death and hope your goals are achieved, but your current path has no future but death.
USEA forces will soon advance on Calcutta itself, we ask that you surrender to them and we will argue your case for reform with the true government of the FAS.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Ai Quoc.



(T3h great Ho Chi Minh Daddy himself Speaks!!)

OOC: Just a note, the SU just sent the Islamists 14 points of aid, and is offering them military equipment and training if needed. Also, what do the Turks have to say about this? I know they were anti-FAS from what GB told me, and these islamists are their fellow Muslims.

OOC: Just a note, the SU just sent the Islamists 14 points of aid, and is offering them military equipment and training if needed. Also, what do the Turks have to say about this? I know they were anti-FAS from what GB told me, and these islamists are their fellow Muslims.

OOC: Hurrah, someone is helping the Islamists.

By the looks of it, the Communists (who I kinda wanted to win :() are going to get owned by the end of the year, but the Islamists are going to develop a pretty strong hold on their territory. Hell, they might even absorb the Communists republics of Sindh and Baluchistan if the central Communist government falls...

OOC: Just a note, the SU just sent the Islamists 14 points of aid, and is offering them military equipment and training if needed. Also, what do the Turks have to say about this? I know they were anti-FAS from what GB told me, and these islamists are their fellow Muslims.

they wouldn't like either the FAS or the Islamists... but would probably do something to free Afghanistan (at least the Turkmani part)

OOC: Just a note, the SU just sent the Islamists 14 points of aid, and is offering them military equipment and training if needed. Also, what do the Turks have to say about this? I know they were anti-FAS from what GB told me, and these islamists are their fellow Muslims.

You should probably inform Warta Endor and he can tell me what he wants to build.

As to the Turks, I believe Parth is sorting out NPC reactions (I know there's a big reaction coming up this turn anyway!)

I saw the help (and I'm very happy with it!) Scandic Union sends me. :D

May/June

3rd Turn Results:

Order:
Communist
FAS (and allies)
Islamist

Weather is typical tropic spring, mud on northern plains, bad going in mountainous regions.

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Communist turn

Light Infantry division (disordered) from NE of Patna moves to defend Calcutta.

LI division in Calcutta moves towards Madras

Remaining two LI divisions (Hyderabad and Madras) maintain their present positions, awaiting reinforcements before resuming the offensive.

7 shipping units are dispatched to the Islamists.

FAS turn:

South African troops enter the theatre via the Indian Ocean and are en route to join British forces against the communists in the East.

FAS corvettes reach the mouth of the Persian Gulf and begin to mount a small blockade across it to prevent smuggling. Frigates, Subs and Destroyers from the British fleet rush towards them to assist alongside the first Korean forces in the area, the submarines.

British Fleet off Rangoon move to blockade Madras.

British mechanised marines and alpine units move to the mountains near Madras to be in a position to attack the division there when reinforcements arrive.

British aircraft carrier and 2 cruisers move to Mangalore coast. British Sea HAwk aircraft launch a sortie against the mountain defenders and fail to cause any damage whatsoever in the harsh environment.

FAS Armoured division, asssisted by British paras dropped from nearby Oman go into action against a disordered Islamist light infantry unit outside Bandar Abbas and destroy it for no loss.

British HQ and trained mech division disembark at Bombay.

USEA forces occupy Dacca (1 mech div, 1 HQ, 2 Infantry corps). This allows the light bomber unit to occupy an airbase and they will begin bombing raids next turn.

Remaining USEA units (1 marine, 1 airborne brigade) leave Chittagong to one FAS disordered infantry division and join the rest of their forces in Dacca.

The USEA assault the disordered infantry in Calcutta and take it without loss. Suffering 2 disordered results for the infantry corps. One of these is removed by the HQ at the end of the turn, leaving one disordered unit.

Islamists

Saudi Arabia declares it's official support for the Islamists in Persia and Afghanistan. The bulk of the Saudi Army (6 infantry divisions and one artillery unit) are ferried across the Persian gulf to land in Persia. The German troops on duty in the area claim to have seen nothing of such an incident.

1 mechanised islamist unit from Tabriz heads for Afghanistan on the road network.

1 disordered mech div withdraws from outside Bandar Abbas to Isfahan to reorganise.

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Other events.

Britain announces that it will not attack Saudi forces until negotiations are attempted, but will continue to attack the Communists in the East and South. Britain calls for a truce between the Saudis and the FAS so that alternative courses of action can be suggested. Growing opinion in Britain is that "it is not our war" and that the troops should be brought home soon.

One British mechanised division from the UK is posted to Ceylon to maintain order there.

Also, from next turn: New builds start showing up as do the Koreans.

NB: Saudi involvement suggested by NPC mod, and not just something I made up!

Message for the World from the leaders of the United Islamic Republic

People of all faiths around the world, behold as the brave sons of Allah defeat the Infidel Troops of the Federated Asian States and her allies. We can easily archieve our goal, bringing all the muslems within the FAS under Allahs banner. But to show that the world that the Islam is not a warlusting religion, we offer the Federated Asian States the following:

The United Islamic Republic will cease it's hostile actions against the Federated Asian States if:

1. The troops of the Federated Asian States withdraw from Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan (ooc. I used the modern day names here).
2. The FAS let all Muslems who want to live in the UIR leave, without doing them harm and with a compensation for lost property.
3. In return we will let people of other faiths who wish to leave the UIR go unharmed and with a compensation for lost property.
4. All FAS vessels, and the vessels of it's allies, end the blocade of the Persian Gulf.

To the Allies of the Federated Asian States, I say this.

We have done you no direct harm, so why do you wage war against us? Give us a chance, let us live in peace. Help us bring the people of the UIR to the modern world (with other words, donate some production left overs!).

To all Muslems, whereever you are in the world, I say this.

Support the just cause of you Muslem brothers. Come to the Islamic Republic to help building a modern society, or if your a bravehearted man (or woman) join in the fight against the infidels.

Allah ou Akhbar!

Seyyed Ruhollah Khomeini

ooc. There may be some mistakes in here, please correct me if there are.

USEA forces occupy Dacca (1 mech div, 1 HQ, 2 Infantry corps). This allows the light bomber unit to occupy an airbase and they will begin bombing raids next turn.

Remaining USEA units (1 marine, 1 airborne brigade) leave Chittagong to one FAS disordered infantry division and join the rest of their forces in Dacca.

The USEA assault the disordered infantry in Calcutta and take it without loss. Suffering 2 disordered results for the infantry corps. One of these is removed by the HQ at the end of the turn, leaving one disordered unit.



Eh... I have a real problem with my Commanders taking the inititive and going beyond their orders.
Anyway their next orders are too leave the disorded infantry corps at Calcutta to reorder itself and them move towards Hyperabad where they will wait until the rebels give a response to our request for them to surrender.

Also don't forget my squadron of ten destroyers that are in the area blockading rebel shipping.

Sorry about that, it seemed like a sinsible move at the time. But at least there's no real harm done, to be honest you rolled very unluckily to get both infantry disordered. I'll be sure to keep your local commanders on a tighter rein in the future and that they stick to the word of their orders.

Don't worry your destroyers are in the area. It's just that as the Communists got the first turn they managed to sneak out some shipping units before FAS and allied ships could put the blockade into action.

The People's republic asks for a cease-fire as to continue negotiations with the USEA on how to resolve the conflict.

To UIR

If the FAS accepts your offer, we will recognize your independence. Until then, we must recognize you as a threat, as you fight a nation helping our own. If, however, we are able to build relations, we would like to strengthen ties with a new Islamic nation.

To Western Arabia (SECRET)

If you find yourself threatened by the alliance between the UIR and the Saudis, we shall come to your aid in an instant. Allowing the Shi'a Persians and incestous Saudis to overthrow the rightful sherif of Mecca would be a crime against Islam.

Sorry about that, it seemed like a sinsible move at the time. But at least there's no real harm done, to be honest you rolled very unluckily to get both infantry disordered. I'll be sure to keep your local commanders on a tighter rein in the future and that they stick to the word of their orders.

Don't worry your destroyers are in the area. It's just that as the Communists got the first turn they managed to sneak out some shipping units before FAS and allied ships could put the blockade into action.

The same thing happened in the Chinese civil war, Vietnamese infantry units adavanced nearly two hundred miles into chinese territory after being ordered to guard the border.

OOC: By the way, guys, I may not have made this clear, but this isn't a civil war aboust secession. This is a civil war about who controls the FAS.

Also, the UIR does not control Pakistan. All of Pakistan that it controls is the NWFP. Sindh and Baluchistan are independent republics (in fact, the Balochistan Republic consists of southern Afghanistan, as well as south-eastern Iran as well).

By the way, this is a map of the regions and who they're alligned with:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/CivilWar.png

Green is Islamists, Red is communists, and Blue is nationalists/current government.

Australia will commit one wing of Hawker Hunter fighters and one squadron of five submarines to fight in India with its Commonwealth friends. The government offers its apologies for the delay (ooc: got distracted from the internet by the real world, but lets just say the opposition party delayed things in parliament) and hopes to provide ground troops and other forces as the public is weaned onto the idea of fighting for such a just cause.

By the way, this is a map of the regions and who they're alligned with:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/CivilWar.png

Green is Islamists, Red is communists, and Blue is nationalists/current government.

underdeveloped, tribal Assam is communist?

Hey How come I didn't have any millitary there? That could've help me survive an extra turn or something :(

OOC: By the way, guys, I may not have made this clear, but this isn't a civil war aboust secession. This is a civil war about who controls the FAS.

Don't worry, the political implications are far from over for the central government.

Isn't there any word from those politicians and army officers? It is strange how a person as socialist as Nehru could deny his socialist comrades...

Thanks for the map and info LS, it made a lot clear! But I thought the communists were only in the South and East? And I doubt the hindu population would accept a (sort of) Fundementalist Regime...

underdeveloped, tribal Assam is communist?

Greater Bengal is communist, yes.

Listen, like in all republics, not everyone agrees with what happens. However, majority rules, and since the majority of the population of Greater Bengal are poor, and since in real life the east and south of India are the "strongholds" of the Communist Party of India, I figured they were a perfect place for a communist government. After all, who supports communism more than the dis-enfranchised, jobless, poor-as-dirt underclasses?

Thanks for the map and info LS, it made a lot clear! But I thought the communists were only in the South and East? And I doubt the hindu population would accept a (sort of) Fundementalist Regime...

The Communists are in the South, East, and Baluchistan/Sindh. I'll tell you why with those two last ones;

Baluchistan has always been a pretty socialist place. After all, since the mean old imperialists have always been keeping them down, and in the dirt, they have taken a liking to socialism.

Sindh, on the other hand, is the traditional homeland of the Pakistan Peoples Party; another rather socialist party. Now, in modern days, Karachi is only well known for it's terrorists, but way back when, Karachi was one of the most socialist places in all of Pakistan, seeing how it is the third biggest city in the world (in terms of population. If you're counting Metropolitan areas, Karachi is the 13th largest), and it's full of poor people.

Thanks for the explanation! It also gave me some more info on Southern Asia ;)

I'll get the next summary up later tonight, I am one turn behind schedule (due to school and work), but should catch up by Monday as that is an Admin day and has no months attached to it.

July-August

Turn 4

Islamsists, Communists, FAS

Islamists

3 Saudi infantry divisions (with artillery support) attack Bandar Abbas, The defenders fight well (ie. rolled high!) and the attackers suffer one division destroyed and the other two disordered before destroying the defending mechanised division.

One Saudi div moves to garrison Tabriz, one heads for Kabul, one garrisons Isfahan.

One Islamist mech div heads for Kabul

Communists

One Light Infantry div occupies Cocanda and prepares it's defence.

Other units hold position to await reinforcements next turn.

The 7 shipping units heading for the communists try to run the FAS blockade, 4 of them make it and are transferred to the Islamists. 3 units are interred and transferred to FAS control.

FAS

Korean Alpine brig, Para brig and Inf div arrive in Western Burma alongside one air transport, one light bomber and two pilots.

Korean sub unit starts blockade of Cocanda and Madra alongside USEA destroyers and British missile boats, corvettes and destroyers.

British frigates, destroyers and subs in the gulf begin a blockade, freeing up the FAS corvettes to patrol the gulf to dissuade Saudi reinforcements.

USEA troops in the North East reorganise one inf corps in Calcutta and send the rest on to Hyderabad, knowing that their airfield will be protected by the Korean forces moving up.

British alpine troops and marines in SE are joined by a mechanised div and a HQ unit from Bombay.

A Fleet Air Arm sortie from the offshore carrier fails once more to disorder the mountain defending communists.

The British paras near Bandar Abbas are picked up by helicopter and disembarked at Bombay as they are weak in defence and prolongued fighting.

FAS western defences hold firm in the knowledge that they will probably be reinforced before an Islamist assault can begin.

South African mech div and alpine brig disembark from transports at Bombay and act a central reserve for next turn alongside the British paras and helicopters.

Britain consults with Korea and the USEA in relation to the formation of a centralised international airborne division. This division would be made up of the 3 paratroop divisions in the region plus their trasports (1 from USEA, Korea and Britain) and maybe the British helicopters. This formation would be stationed in Bombay and act as a central reserve, being used to either bolster a failing defensive line or else to drop behind enemy lines and exploit a breakthrough. The British CiC, Viscount Bernard Montgomery, stresses that this is only a proposal and noone is under any compulsions to accept. Though the British will maintain a centralised paratroop reserve brigade for use anywhere along the front in case of dire need by any force.

Britain consults with Korea and the USEA in relation to the formation of a centralised international airborne division. This division would be made up of the 3 paratroop divisions in the region plus their trasports (1 from USEA, Korea and Britain) and maybe the British helicopters. This formation would be stationed in Bombay and act as a central reserve, being used to either bolster a failing defensive line or else to drop behind enemy lines and exploit a breakthrough. The British CiC, Viscount Bernard Montgomery, stresses that this is only a proposal and noone is under any compulsions to accept. Though the British will maintain a centralised paratroop reserve brigade for use anywhere along the front in case of dire need by any force.

OOC: Monty?

IC:

The Korean Commander, Prince Wu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Yi_Woo), consents to the idea of an Allied Paratroop Division for now, though he might have to consult with HQ in Seoul.

The US covertly informs Oman that if it chooses to invade and dismantle the Saudi Regime, the US will support it. The Saudi interference in the FAS civil war is strongly disapproved of in Washington DC. The US is also willing to support a united Arabia under Omani rule. As long as steps toward that are taken carefully.

ooc
as a good chunk of the Saudi Army is elsewhere, this should be rather easy. The US will also provide intelligence information and communications equipment and advisors. As US oil companies have a sizeable investment in the area, and the Saudis are behaving recklessly, Eisenhower approves the action suggested by Dulles, head of the CIA.

This should also weaken the Islamists in the FAS as well.

The Egyptian Republic is disgusted that the Saudi Family would try to bring independence to a Shiite nation that have been known to issue religious edicts against Sunnism, let alone the allies of a communist faction (no, arab socialists are not commies).

Nassar of the Egyptian Republic and Naguib of the Sudanese Republic have declared war against the Saudi Family with high support from the Egyptian Senate but poor support from the Sudanese Senate (after all, why should Sudan give a crap?) The United Republics also call upon Jordan and Western Arabia to allow passage of Egyptian ground forces (or if they disagree we can go through Syria and Baghdad). The Republican convoy will include 3 Mechanized Divisions, 2 Infantry Corps, and maybe a Mechanized Artillery Division and Armored Corps (depending on weather and terrain conditions). Air support will not be dispatched just yet.

Secret Ultimatum to Saudi Family (All terms must be met before September 15th):
-Withdrawl of Arabian support from the Islamists
-The Saudi Family must step down from power unconditionally.
-The United Republics must be allowed to install a new, republican government in Arabia

Last but not least, Egypt and it's allies have already built a small military for the Rashidi Family (the rivals of the Saudi Family). We can work out the details of the new Arabia with them later.

ooc. Seems that a lot of different factions will fight for power in Arabia :cool:
But shouldn't my appeal to fellow muslems in the muslem world have some effect? I could imagine some riots or something.

Teheran Evening News

In his first reaction Seyyed Ruhollah Khomeini isn't pleased with the declaration of war by the Egypto-Sudanese Republic against our Saudi allies.

I believe the United Egypto-Sudanese Republic isn't handling according to it's natural interests. Eventhough me might belong to different factions, we still are fellow muslems, fighting for a just cause. I'm dissapointed and I believe the ordinary citizen in the street is also dissapointed in his or her government.

What military moves will follow is not clear. Transporting troops across the Gulf is difficult since the blocade and intensive patrols by the FAS and the British.

Other News: our victorious allies take Bandar Abbas after Heavy Fight page 3
Our Mujahideen in Afghanistan page 5 etc.

Secret Message, to be distributed to mosques throughout the muslem world
Your Muslem brother are threatend, even by their fellow believers! All help is needed, bring disorder in the streets of your country. Protest against the betrayal by Egypt and other muslem govenrments.

OOC: Monty?

Yep, he's one of the most senior generals in the British Army and has been sent to where the bulk of that army is concentrated.

IC: Britain supports the Egyptian ultimatum and adds weight to it by suggesting that non-compliance will result in a British declaration of war as well. Though if this occurs the TA will have to be mobilised and posted abroad, though the British Mediterranean Fleet is on full alert and largely posted to the Eastern Med as a precaution.

OOC: US and Egyptian intervention noted, Korean paras will be centralised as a reserve alongside British troops, hopefully for elimination of the Communist forces by the end of the year so that the Islamists can be dealt with fairly quickly.

OOC: I find it interesting how the high-and-mighty west is supporting a brutal dictatorship in it's fight against two nations which (although are ideaologically different than the west), are entirely democratic (unlike in RL, the UIR is not a radically insane islamic state. They have issued no fatwas calling for the death of infidels, gays aren't hanged, it's still legal to preach a different religion, etc. Think of them more like Pakistan than Iran, where it's a republic for the muslims, instead of an islamic republic), and just want to see a new government in the FAS. Turns out the west is just as xenophic and hypocritical as in real life...

OOC: Oi! I've been so busy the last half-week that I missed all the fun with my puppe... I mean, allies. I'll try to sum everything up...

SIC: Germany to Britain, US:

The German Abwehr already has plans to disable this unfriendly and unstable government in Greater Arabia. The Saudi Royal family is full of fanatics and warmongers. What makes them worse is their control of large amounts of oil. The Abwehr is currently working with governments in the area to assist in the overthrow.

Saudi Statement:

The House of Sa'ud pledges that it will destroy the Egyptian infidels as swiftly as sand passes in the desert. Your men will not reach Riyadh, instead they will commit suicide in the desert while the House of Sa'ud destroys them... *blah blah blah*

The House of Sa'ud also promises death to those who support Egypt in its self-destructive war.

Other:

The Hashemite families in Western Arabia and Jordan give their support to Egypt, but do nothing other than allow movement of troops through their lands and allowing British, German and American aircraft to use whatever airstrips are available.

The Omanis give their support as well.

The Saudis declare a fatwa ordering the execution of the Hashemite, Rashidi, and Omani families and the President of Egypt, as well as a holy crusade to destroy the "Crusader States" of Jordan, Western Arabia, Oman and Egypt. Ibn Sa'ud also makes statements about him being the "next Salah-al-din" as Saudi Arabia moves to Wartime effort.

September-October

Turn 5

FAS, Communists, Islamists

FAS

Western FAS divisions hold position, 2 new infantry divisions raised in Karachi.

British Sea Hawks sortie for the third time against the mountain defending DRSA troops. They finally manage to disorder them.

Inspired by this success the British Highly Trained alpine brigade, Elite marines and highly trained mech div assault the mountains. They destroy the defenders but the mech div is disordered and remains behind to be reorganised by the accompanying HQ.

The Korean Paratroop brigade forms a central reserve at Bombay with British paras. The alpine brig and inf div move to outside Cocanda to keep the communists pinned there.

Korean light bomber joins USEA bombers at Dacca.

USEA HQ reorganises inf corps. USEA troops continue movement towards Hyderabad ending their turn near to Cocanda.

Local USEA commanders request that their high command allow them to participate in the planned assault on Cocanda next turn, supporting Korean forces as there is no longer an enemy threat at Hyderabad.

The South African contingent move to Nagpur to be closer to the action.

The Australian contingent arrives in the theatre ready for deployment next turn.

Communists

2 mech divs raised. One in Madras, one in Cocanda. Remaining forces hold ground.

Islamists

2 mech divs move to Kabul

2 Saudi infantry divs and artillery move to oppose the FAS armoured div encroaching on Islamic territory.

1 Saudi inf div heads for Kabul (it's a long walk)

2 light inf divs built at Shiraz and Meshed.

Top Secret Communique to the Korean governemnt.

We believe it would be in the SCT's best wishes and Asia's as a whole if the FAS were to have a stable democratic governement. However a revoultion by arms as the current rebel forces are attempting is futrile and would rarely lead to a stable state.

Therefore the current government needs to make the reforms itself. We are currently in negotiation with the socialist rebels to surrender to SCT forces in exchange for 'helping' the current government to reform.
So when the socialist rebels do surrender USEA forces will quickly occupy and hold all former rebel cities under the pretense of peacekeeping until the FAS government makes the required reforms.
We would greatly appreciate it if Korean forces would asisst us in this endeavour.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh,
USEA Minister of Defence

Syria will move the following units through Jordan to help fight the Saudis:

1st Armored Division (SU equipment, from Damascus)
2nd Mountain Brigade (from Golan)
1st Air Combat Wing (100 Saab 29s from Beirut)


Senior officials will be sent to Amman and Alexandria to consult on tactics. The Syrian military believes a quick strike on Riyadh should be enough to bring about surrender, but pushing all the way to Dammam and Dharan could be required if the government evacuates swiftly. Other nations, perhaps including the US and Oman, could launch a simlutaneous strike there, effectively ending Saudi resistance. However, growing Omani domination over the southern peninsula is a cause for concern.

Hoping to gain more support, an attempt is made to get Bedouins to help fight alongside, or at least serve as guides.

OOC: I find it interesting how the high-and-mighty west is supporting a brutal dictatorship in it's fight against two nations which (although are ideaologically different than the west), are entirely democratic (unlike in RL, the UIR is not a radically insane islamic state. They have issued no fatwas calling for the death of infidels, gays aren't hanged, it's still legal to preach a different religion, etc. Think of them more like Pakistan than Iran, where it's a republic for the muslims, instead of an islamic republic), and just want to see a new government in the FAS. Turns out the west is just as xenophic and hypocritical as in real life...

the US doesn't much like the FAS either

Syria will move the following units through Jordan to help fight the Saudis:

1st Armored Division (SU equipment, from Damascus)
2nd Mountain Brigade (from Golan)
1st Air Combat Wing (100 Saab 29s from Beirut)


Senior officials will be sent to Amman and Alexandria to consult on tactics. The Syrian military believes a quick strike on Riyadh should be enough to bring about surrender, but pushing all the way to Dammam and Dharan could be required if the government evacuates swiftly. Other nations, perhaps including the US and Oman, could launch a simlutaneous strike there, effectively ending Saudi resistance. However, growing Omani domination over the southern peninsula is a cause for concern.

Hoping to gain more support, an attempt is made to get Bedouins to help fight alongside, or at least serve as guides.


The US isn't actively involved, its merely providing logistical, staff and intelligence support to the Omanis

The 2nd infantry Corps is ordered to hold at Calcutta, while the 3rd infantry Corps and 5th mechanised division will move to occupy Hyderabad.

Meanwhile the Marines and 6th Airborne are told to hold at Cocanda and prepare to assault the city, but not to do so unless exlicity ordered to.



Secret Communique to the People's Republic of South Asia

Why do you delay? You must surrender or you will be destroyed, soon we will not be able to protect you from any reprisals the FAS will bring down upon you.

Surrender and you have a chance of forcing them to reform, do not and they will give you no mercy.

OOC: What happened with the 14 points I sent the islamists?

IC: The Scandic Union will not let the Syrians and Egyptians crush another nation. Two fighters(1 Saab 29 and 1 Voodoo F101) and one light bomber(Tu14) will be sent to Saudi Arabia to help fend off any invasions. The SU will also send economic aid(14 points) and let the Saudi's purchase any equipment they need from the SU.

Saudi Arabia
Population: 2 million
Tech level: 4
Income (Wartime): Riyadh 1, 5 shipping, 3 oil points, -1 to Germany+1.5 Islamics+14 SU= 29.5 points
Spending: Level 4 social spending .75, 4 horse cavalry, 1 garrison, 1.25 points. Build 2 Infantry Corps, 9 light infantry, 2 pilots, 2 MiG 19, .5 to arm assassins.


The Saudis, now with a much larger budget, begin training a very large army.

The Kaiser, not knowing the whole story, begins to beg for peace while in his stay in Southwest Africa. However, that all changes when... Hubertus takes control. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10602234&postcount=38)

Crown Prince Hubertus issues a statement declaring that the 'House of Sa'ud is a fanatical, unstable one that must fall.' The Garrison units in each Lager are being organized into 6 infantry and 2 flak divisions and are being sent to Syria, while the 2 paratrooper brigades are being sent to Oman to protect the border. There they will stay out of the Arab conflict but will engage any and all attempts at crossing the border. The hope is that the conflict will not spill over into friendly Oman.

Also, 2 TA-183Ds are being sent to Syria as a gift to the Rashidi Family who are currently attempting to overthrow the Saudis.

OOC: I think some/all of the references to Syria should refer to W. Arabia.

Egypt has sent 100 Hawker Hunters with expert pilots to defend it's military convoy and aid in any military operations against the Saudi Family. Egyptian forces shall be joint-commanded by both Egyptian and allied commanders.

To stop aid from the SU and other allies of the Saudi Family, the Suez Canal has begun cargo inspections and 100 Hawker Hunters with expert pilots shall begin patrolling the northern Red Sea and Republican air space. Two Egyptian garrisions have been dispatched to patrol Egypt's coasts and a Sudanese garrison has been put on guard in Sudan. Defense forces have been authorized to use Amenhotep I. Egypt has called upon Palestine, Syria, Baghdad, and Jordan to aid in the blockade of SU aid. Egypt has put up a request to the Arab League to put a full embargo against the SU for aiding enemy forces (Behold OPEC's Power).

Egypt has put up a request to the Arab League to put a full embargo against the SU for aiding enemy forces (Behold OPEC's Power).

Your intelligence service doesn't know about this yet. As the points have yet to be spent and the SU has probably undertaken all necessary precautions against being discovered. Unless they want to of course...

Syria will join the blockade, and quietly remind Jordan and Palestine about who is paying for their brand new highway system.

EDIT-LR wouldnt the "We will not let Syria and Egypt crush another nation" bit give us some hint

Top Secret Communique to the Korean governemnt.

We believe it would be in the SCT's best wishes and Asia's as a whole if the FAS were to have a stable democratic governement. However a revoultion by arms as the current rebel forces are attempting is futrile and would rarely lead to a stable state.

Therefore the current government needs to make the reforms itself. We are currently in negotiation with the socialist rebels to surrender to SCT forces in exchange for 'helping' the current government to reform.
So when the socialist rebels do surrender USEA forces will quickly occupy and hold all former rebel cities under the pretense of peacekeeping until the FAS government makes the required reforms.
We would greatly appreciate it if Korean forces would asisst us in this endeavour.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh,
USEA Minister of Defence

SIC:

To: N. Van Tranh
From: Our Majesty Emperor Gang

Such a policy sounds good on paper, but may prove a disaster in the long run. After all, who's to say the Indians won't try to force us out somehow if we tried occupying their territories. A better idea would be to put pressure on the Communists to surrender, and try to force them (and the FAS Government) to reach a compromise to get the rights and stability they want.

Your intelligence service doesn't know about this yet. As the points have yet to be spent and the SU has probably undertaken all necessary precautions against being discovered. Unless they want to of course...

OOC: SU, you sneaky piece of crap! Come out and show yourself like a man! :p

Secret Communique to the People's Republic of South Asia

Why do you delay? You must surrender or you will be destroyed, soon we will not be able to protect you from any reprisals the FAS will bring down upon you.

Surrender and you have a chance of forcing them to reform, do not and they will give you no mercy.

OOC: Cited as reference.

SIC:

Korea sends a similar Communique to the DPRSA, urging them to surrender or else expect defeat by the Allies, reprisals from FAS Forces and "no hope of ever achieving your goals."

Korea also informs the USEA Command that it will attack the city of Cochinda along with them when they give the Signal.

OOC: For one thing, its' the DPRSA.

Secondly, if you guys want to try

"forces will quickly occupy and hold all former rebel cities under the pretense of peacekeeping until the FAS government makes the required reforms."

You guys will get screwed over. Y'see, that would get the FAS pissed off to the max. And if you look at it's economic builds this year, you will notice that I could send about 1 million angry indiamen, as well as a bunch o' chemical weapons and bomber planes, at ya. The government of the FAS is already coming under fire for letting foreigners fight what is seen to be an Indian War; don't goad the population of the FAS to overthrow Yahya Khan and replace him with the anti-foreigner Ayub. He may hold you guys in higher esteem than the westerners, but if you guys try and move against India, he'll hate you too.

OOC: For one thing, its' the DPRSA.

Secondly, if you guys want to try "forces will quickly occupy and hold all former rebel cities under the pretense of peacekeeping until the FAS government makes the required reforms.
We would greatly appreciate it if Korean forces would asisst us in this endeavour."

You guys will get screwed over. Y'see, that would get the FAS pissed off to the max. And if you look at it's economic builds this year, you will notice that I could send about 1 million angry indiamen, as well as a bunch o' chemical weapons and bomber planes, at ya. The government of the FAS is already coming under fire for letting foreigners fight what is seen to be an Indian War; don't goad the population of the FAS to overthrow Yahya Khan and replace him with the anti-foreigner Ayub. He may hold you guys in higher esteem than the westerners, but if you guys try and move against India, he'll hate you too.

OOC: You can relax, Kim Gu is an anti-imperialist, we don't have much in the way of materiel and men there, and OOCly, even I have reservations-after all, its like ya described. Nevermind the fact I did indicate: "Such a policy sounds good on paper, but may prove a disaster in the long run."

OOC: You can relax, Kim Gu is an anti-imperialist, we don't have much in the way of materiel and men there, and OOCly, even I have reservations-after all, its like ya described. Nevermind the fact I did indicate: "Such a policy sounds good on paper, but may prove a disaster in the long run."

OOC: Just a reminder to tell you that it's too late to start championing democracy now.

SIC:

To: N. Van Tranh
From: Our Majesty Emperor Gang

Such a policy sounds good on paper, but may prove a disaster in the long run. After all, who's to say the Indians won't try to force us out somehow if we tried occupying their territories. A better idea would be to put pressure on the Communists to surrender, and try to force them (and the FAS Government) to reach a compromise to get the rights and stability they want.

Secret Communique to Our Majesty Emperor Gang

That is what we intend however we feel that a continued SCT presence in the former rebel areas as peacekeppers would help the process imeasurebly.
The main front for reform would however be purely diplomatic, and as such once the Socialists have surrendered we propose that we organise reform talks between their leaders and the FAS government with Korean and Indochinese observers present.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh,
USEA Minister of Defence


OOC: Just a reminder to tell you that it's too late to start championing democracy now.

OOC:
A stable India was our intention, democracy is a secondary wish.
Looking at it what I wrote the first time does give a different impression to what I meant.
The forceful part will be at the negotiaitng table, the troops will just be hanging about as peacekeepers.

Secret Communique to Our Majesty Emperor Gang

That is what we intend however we feel that a continued SCT presence in the forner rebel areas as peacekeppers would help the process imeasurebly.
The main front for reform would however be purely diplomatic, and as such once the Socialists have surrendered we propose that we organise reform talks between their leaders and the FAS government with Korean and Indochineses observers present.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh,
USEA Minister of Defence

OOC: Just to point out, be aware of TLS' posts.

IC:

To: N. Nah Tranh
From: Our Majesty Emperor Gang

I still am a bit nervous. The idea seems to make more sense now, but if we are going to stay as peacekeepers, should we not consult with the Allies and the FAS Government (all of it) first, to assure him we are not going to occupy India?

OOC: Ya, me sending aid is going to be kept secret as long as possible, although it probaly won't last all that long. Kind of hard to hind a few hundred aircraft.

OOC: Just to point out, be aware of TLS' posts.

IC:

To: N. Nah Tranh
From: Our Majesty Emperor Gang

I still am a bit nervous. The idea seems to make more sense now, but if we are going to stay as peacekeepers, should we not consult with the Allies and the FAS Government (all of it) first, to assure him we are not going to occupy India?


Secret Communique to Our Majesty Emperor Gang

Yes, consulting the FAS government would be our intention before any such action was taken, so unessacerry hostilities could be avoided.
The Socialists however have already consented to our peacekeeping presence after conflict has ceased.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh,
USEA Minister of Defence



Secret Communique to the FAS government

Dear sirs, with the socialist rebel threat nearly extinguished we feel it would be prudent to look ahead to the future.
As I am sure you can see a stable India is in the best intrest of all of Asia and that uprisings as violent as these cannot be alowwed to happen again no matter the cause they stand for.
We therefore suggest that allied SCT forces be allowed to suplement your own in peacekeeping operations in previously rebel held territory.


Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh,
USEA Minister of Defence

The KND (German CIA) begins to investigate the full meaning behind "We will not let Syria and Egypt crush another nation."

Hubertus also makes it known to his uncle that Germany is interested in helping the Allies in India more than they are currently.

The US Navy shifts the 5th Fleet from the South Atlantic to its new area of responsibility, the Indian Ocean.

The 5th Fleet has 2 heavy carrier task forces, plus a handful of submarines and is based out of Subic Bay in the Philippines, as well as making frequent port visits to Freemantle (Australia) and Singapore.

The CIA also works on a plan to eliminate the Saudi Royal Family using assets in country and also triggering a coup by the Royal National Guard to bring about a more stable leadership.

ooc
the US was really good at coups in the 1950s... lots of experienced field operatives left over from the 2nd World War (Third World War in this case)
Points that officially were for the Nuclear program (which are in excess of need by 5 points are actually used for this)

Public Announcement to the SCT alliance members specificly and the world:

"We are much concerned by your attitude; We would like you to understand that we have approached you for peace not because we do not want to fight a war but because we believed that there was a better way to serve our people.

But lately we have our concerns: when we were engaged in negotiations, as agesture of good will we reduced our Calcutta garison as a sign for our willingness to participate in negotiations, but then it appeared that while negotiations were ongoing, the USEA commanders "took the Intiative" and overwhelmed the Calcutta garison, who although outnumbered and disrupted, fought bravely. Needless to say this "initiative" would have been enough to ruin any prospect of any further negotiation, nevertheless we intervened in an attempt to cover this up as a "breakthrough in negotiations" and was handed peacefully, however this requires the release of what was left of the Garison and the cooperation of the USEA, this was asked for twice in private negotiations but yet to be acheived.

Now we reveal this deplorable act as your tone has changed from cooperation to one similar of threatening, along with the advance of your troops very near our centres, we fear that you intend to take the way of the arms instead of the way of the diplomacy you preach.

Know that we owe a debt to those who follow us and will not hand over their fate to strangers from over the mountains who have possibly done more harm to us than good and would hand us over to the central government. Know also that we are not afraid to fight the hopeless fight and die the freeman's death, for we were born free, we will live free and we will die free.

However, if you do so choose to follow the path you preach, which we say is not without merit, we ask you to show something of good-faith as your recent actions has certainly not caused us to trust.

We would hope that this would be the reduction (but not the withdrawl) of your and your allies troops around Hyderabad, in exchange we would be willing to promise to not perform any offensives against you or the central government indefinately and suggest that some sort of a "de-millitirised zone" could be created while we negotiate with the central government, that is if they agree.

But we fail to see why peacekeepers are needed; find that we are able to keep the peace adequetely in our provinces, we feel that the forign prescence may worsen things.

To comprimise this we would agree to allow impartial international observers from the United Nations organisation and cut our spending and disband a mechinised unit to show we are not comited to warefare.

After all, we are majorly workers, farmers, a few citizens and some politicians who formed a millitia because there was no democratic system to express ourselves otherwise, we are not power-hungry millitary officers who want the total control of the state.

We hope that all sides of the conflict considers this."
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Secret stuff:

Attempts are made to contact factions in the USEA and Korea in hope to open their ears to the diplomatic calls by South Asia and perhaps avoid a millitary standoff.

Aga Khan Ssends another letter to the King of England beseeching him to cease the unprovoked British attacks on South Asia and accept the ceasefire which South Asia seems to be the only one comitted to.

Propoganda is attempted to be spread and undergrounds are attempted to be formed in the central governments territory.

Resistance (Partisan) has been passive in Calcutta by the order of the government but that may change depending on the results.

OOC: Do I still own those Communist republics south of Iran?

No word from Nehru or anybody else, huh?

LR wouldnt the "We will not let Syria and Egypt crush another nation" bit give us some hint

Perhaps, but ass Egypt hasn't paid the points (5 a year) for a military intelligence service there isn't anyone whose going to be really checking up on these things. I should imagine you'll find out once the points have ben spent and whatnot.

The KND (German CIA) begins to investigate the full meaning behind "We will not let Syria and Egypt crush another nation."

The KND begins their investigation, but results are not yet forthcoming. It seems that the money was smuggled into the country by an Indian fisherman who was allowed through the blockadeafter a cursary check of his cargo. This was in accordance with the rules of the sea for not interfering with local shipping. From what you can tell the fisherman made a rendezvous in international waters with an unknown merchant vessel. The vessels known to be in the area at the time include those flagged as:
British, USA, USEA, FAS, Korean, Dutch, Australian, French, South African, Spanish, Russian and Scandic Union.

No leads on which vessel supplied the money can yet be found.

Attempts are made to contact factions in the USEA and Korea in hope to open their ears to the diplomatic calls by South Asia and perhaps avoid a millitary standoff.

Democratic movements in Korea and USEA begin to make their concerns known to the government regarding what they see as an ilelgal intervention. Though little else is done.

Aga Khan Ssends another letter to the King of England beseeching him to cease the unprovoked British attacks on South Asia and accept the ceasefire which South Asia seems to be the only one comitted to.

The letter is answered by King George's chief advisor as he is suffering from pnumonia at this moment. It states that whilst the King is committed to democracy, he has little weight in these matters and it is left to the government to decide what to do.

Britain is willing to entertaina truce if the FAS supports it.

Propoganda is attempted to be spread and undergrounds are attempted to be formed in the central governments territory.

Resistance (Partisan) has been passive in Calcutta by the order of the government but that may change depending on the results.

Several partizan groups begin to ready themselves in the cities to strike an invading force, but will not take effect until next year.

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Lots of work on at the moment, but results for the last turn of 1950 and the first two turns of 51 will be up tomorrow PM as I have the afternoon off. Yay!

Though Channel 4 over here in the UK is showing the original 1942 British propaganda film "Went the Morning Well?", so i'll have to watch that...

The CIA also works on a plan to eliminate the Saudi Royal Family using assets in country and also triggering a coup by the Royal National Guard to bring about a more stable leadership.

The CIA soon discovers a similar German program operating in the deserts of the country and their experts from the region inform them of massive training operations and the potential for aircraft arriving soon. Also released by local informants is the knowledge that an operation against the Hashemite family and their government forces will begin once troops are trained and ready.

The Royal Guard is split around 60/40 between supporting the royal family and wanting amore stable government. An american probe may convince a few more to overthrow the family, but the guard are unwilling to attempt it wothput a fairly significant majority support and the backing of the new government by the USA, including any forces requried to keep the peace afterwards.

OK so I have the following things lined up for next year: correct?

Egypt declares war on Saudi Arbaia:

Nassar of the Egyptian Republic and Naguib of the Sudanese Republic have declared war against the Saudi Family with high support from the Egyptian Senate. The Republican convoy will include 3 Mechanized Divisions, 2 Infantry Corps, and maybe a Mechanized Artillery Division and Armored Corps (depending on weather and terrain conditions).

Egypt has sent 100 Hawker Hunters with expert pilots to defend it's military convoy and aid in any military operations against the Saudi Family.

Syria supports Egypt:

Syria will move the following units through Jordan to help fight the Saudis:
1st Armored Division (SU equipment, from Damascus)
2nd Mountain Brigade (from Golan)
1st Air Combat Wing (100 Saab 29s from Beirut)#

Saudi Arabia begins to build up it's army:

Saudi Arabia
Population: 2 million
Tech level: 4
Income (Wartime): Riyadh 1, 5 shipping, 3 oil points, -1 to Germany+1.5 Islamics+14 SU= 29.5 points
Spending: Level 4 social spending .75, 4 horse cavalry, 1 garrison, 1.25 points. Build 2 Infantry Corps, 9 light infantry, 2 pilots, 2 MiG 19, .5 to arm assassins.

German intervention includes:

Also, 2 TA-183Ds are being sent to Syria as a gift to the Rashidi Family who are currently attempting to overthrow the Saudis. The Garrison units in each Lager are being organized into 6 infantry and 2 flak divisions and are being sent to Syria, while the 2 paratrooper brigades are being sent to Oman to protect the border. There they will stay out of the Arab conflict but will engage any and all attempts at crossing the border. The hope is that the conflict will not spill over into friendly Oman.

Plus, training facilities in the desert for saudi dissidents.

The USA gets involved in raising rebels as well:

The US Navy shifts the 5th Fleet from the South Atlantic to its new area of responsibility, the Indian Ocean.

The 5th Fleet has 2 heavy carrier task forces, plus a handful of submarines and is based out of Subic Bay in the Philippines, as well as making frequent port visits to Freemantle (Australia) and Singapore.

The CIA also works on a plan to eliminate the Saudi Royal Family using assets in country and also triggering a coup by the Royal National Guard to bring about a more stable leadership.

I think that's just about everything. Plus a few things mentioned to me via TG which may or may not occur yet.

OOC: I had 2 pilots and a corps already trained. They reside in the Syrian desert.

Crap... just realized I forgot to pay the maintainance on them... BTW, the Corps will be highly trained.

IC: The KND agents decide that it would be better to work with the CIA then against it. A proposal is made to work with the CIA in overthrowing the Saudis and replacing them with the friendlier and more stable Rashidi family (who already have an army :p)

-snip-



OOC:

Communique to the DRSA.

What is the meaning of this?
Not only did the capture of Calcutta ocur before any negotiations began, but was it was ordered by a field commander who has since been temporarily relieved of his command, not by the USEA government.

As for your signs of willingness to negotiate by reducing the Calcutta garrison, no notice was given to the USEA!

As for threating you, it is quite the opposite, we are practically holding back an entire allied ofensive to give you time to surrender!

You must see that you will have no leverage what so ever in negotiations and have no chance at succeding in military conflict.
Your only chance to achieve your aims is to surrender to SCT forces who will protect you, we cannot release the Calcutta garrison back to you until you surrender.

We beg you for your own people's sake surrender to SCT forces and we will give our full political support to you in getting the reform you desire.

You must understand that our primary goal is a stable FAS, the democratic reforms you want are also desirable, but not to the point where achieving them would mean destabilisation of the region which is exactly what your rebellion has done.

Your choice is simple, surrender and we help you achieve your goals of political and social reform, or continue this bloody mindedness and be destroyed. We can only hold back the tides for so long before we ourselves are broken.

OK so I have the following things lined up for next year: correct?

Egypt declares war on Saudi Arbaia:



Syria supports Egypt:

#

Saudi Arabia begins to build up it's army:



German intervention includes:



Plus, training facilities in the desert for saudi dissidents.

The USA gets involved in raising rebels as well:



I think that's just about everything. Plus a few things mentioned to me via TG which may or may not occur yet.

OOC: The SU has also sent 3 aircraft units with a mech unit following. Also offering SU equipment for sale.

Parthini']OOC: I had 2 pilots and a corps already trained. They reside in the Syrian desert.

Crap... just realized I forgot to pay the maintainance on them... BTW, the Corps will be highly trained.

IC: The KND agents decide that it would be better to work with the CIA then against it. A proposal is made to work with the CIA in overthrowing the Saudis and replacing them with the friendlier and more stable Rashidi family (who already have an army :p)

the CIA will cooperate

ooc
and 5 US points can be funneled in to pay that maintenance, with the remainder available for bribes and misc other needs

US / German cooperation.... hell has frozen over apparently

the CIA will cooperate

ooc
and 5 US points can be funneled in to pay that maintenance, with the remainder available for bribes and misc other needs

US / German cooperation.... hell has frozen over apparently

It's not snowing in Arabia yet... although when the nukes start flying...

The Post-Duel World Era is a wierd one indeed...

Perhaps, but ass Egypt hasn't paid the points (5 a year) for a military intelligence service there isn't anyone whose going to be really checking up on these things. I should imagine you'll find out once the points have ben spent and whatnot.

Why's everyone focusing on Egypt not having an intelligence service? What about the three other involved nations that do?

The SU has also sent 3 aircraft units with a mech unit following. Also offering SU equipment for sale

Wait, so when our forces fight these, we'll know the SU is involved, right? Also, how are the Arabians feeling about all this? I wouldn't think half the population would have enlisted to fight in an old family rivalry against impossible odds. (Of course, they might not have radios, etc. or might not be familiar with international politics)

SIC: To DPRSA:

Korea notes your concern, and we will try to hold off on manuevers as long as possible, pending talks. Bear in mind your proposal to replace most of us around Hyderabad with UN observers, however, is ill-advised. They cannot guarantee your external security in case the FAS Government decides to cut off negotiations. Korea can, however, by giving you its full political support in any talks, and even sending negotiators alongside you. We have clout the UN does not have here, and I suggest you consider this. Besides, elongating the war will bring on only more foreign elements.

-Our Majesty Emperor Gang

SIC: To USEA:

The Communists are getting serious. Already, the Social Democrats back home are beginning to protest. I suggest you tell your commanders to only attack if things turn sour. Keep them in a tight leash, otherwise, I'll have to consider having Prince Wu recalled from Bombay to take control of all SCT forces here.

And by the way, I suggest we pre-empt them by bringing a UN arbitrator to the talks.

-Our Majesty Emperor Gang

I would think the population would just live on normally, watching to see who comes out as victors. However, I would also assume that a large proportion of those who are signing up have been mistaken by propaganda. If you remember, a lot of Arabs in RL thought the US was getting raped in the Invasion becuase that's what the Minister of Information told them on Al-Jazeera. That, and there would be a good deal of fanatics who would join up to fight the Heretics and Western Pig-Dogs.

ooc
the American presence consists of a couple of dozen CIA types at most, probably old vets from the Third Great War

the Germans on the other hand are in the tens of thousands, so if anything, they are going to hate the Germans not the Americans... the Americans just spend money and make their oil drilling equipment work, which provides more money.

Although the Germans could end up being looked at as 'crusaders' eventually.

Message from South Asia to the SCT:

"Before we surrender we must establish the official terms, our concerns are mainly with:

-The size of the peacekeeper force.
-Their Nationality.
-The presence of the Central Government troops in the provinces of our supporters, as we cannot gurantee their safety.
-The Agenda for Social Reform.
-The fate of our armed forces.

We suggest:

-A small multi-national force from the UN probably aided by SCT and British division but with more emphasis on other nationalities.

-No presence of the central government forces, or preferably no millitary ones (might agree to police units so long as they behave and are watched by international observers.)

-An active agenda for social reform by appointing a multi-partisan constitutional commitee in order to organise for elections and upholding the constitution.

-All of our forces will disband except for one light infantry division which will stay as a reserve unit.

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Other events:
Propoganda is being sent across the FAS along with orders and messages being sent for marchs to be held in major areas (Preferably Bombay, Calcutta, Agra And Delhi), loyal politicians to speak out and newspapers to publish articles. The aim is for these is to pressure the central government to agree for such terms.

Partisans are ordered to stand still...

The PDRSA forces watch for a sneak attack.

British forces observe the hasty cease fire, but continue to move troops closer to Madras and Cocanda. The Fleet Air Arm also makes some mid level reconaissance flights over the towns and the surrounding countryside.

November-December

Turn 6

Weather is appaling, monsoon style rains in the South and East and blizzard-like snow in the North and West. Movement and observation is down to a minimum in all areas without railways or good quality roads.

FAS wins the initiative, followed by the Communists and then the Islamists.

NB: No declarations of war by Egypt etc. have been actioned yet, they'll be next turn.

OOC: Monty was occasionally hotheaded, even so he could do no wrong in the eyes of the MoD and government back in London.

FAS turn:

USEA infantry corps remains to garrison Calcutta. One further infantry coprs and a mechanised division moves to secure Hyderabad, which fell recentlyto a British led attack. USEA marines and airborne brigades remain in the areas around Cocanda with instructions to hold their ground unless ordered otherwise by the high command.

British troops begin to surround Madras after moving out from Hyderabad. South African forces accompany them. British and Australian flights of fighters attempt some reconaissance missions over Madras to determine the nature of defence but are thwarted by the weather.

The British mechanised division stationed on Ceylon is called upon to land on the coast to the south of Madras. leaving Ceylon to the Navy and a few locals to look after.

The British, Korean, Australian, USEA fleets in the Indian Ocean continue their blockade of Madras and expand it to cover Cocanda as well.

2 FAS Divisions advance to Western Front from Karachi.

Other FAS forces maintain their defence of the Western Front in line with recent months.

An FAS infantry division and an armoured division are raised in Multan.

Communists

A mech division is raised at both Cocanda and Madras.

Rest of units await results of high level talks.

Islamists

Infantry unit at Shiraz and mech unit at Istafan move to Bandar Abbas.

2 infantry divisions move to Kabul.

One armour and one light inf division are raised at Bandar Abbas.

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An uneventful turn due largely to the weather.

General Montgomery reviews the few photos of the defences in Madras that penetrated the clouds. He is outraged, his forces have sat idly by whilst the enemy built up their strength due to some foreigners talking about a ceasefire. His opinion is that he could easily have taken over Madras at the start of November without too much trouble. Instead of waiting for a treaty that may never be signed. He telegrams London with these views and requests that he is allowed to resume his offensive, he adds that the FAS do not seem to be involved in the peace talks and could want nothing more than to be rid of the rebels.

His motion is granted and Monty cancels the ceasefire with the Communists in late December, he hopes for clear skies for January.

Emboldened by Monty's dismissal of the ceasefire, the Menzies Government manages to secure the deployment of the RAN 2nd Fleet to assist with Commonwealth efforts in India (heavy missile cruiser HMAS Australia, 10 destroyers and 5 more subs). However, opposition to the committing of ground forces is still quite strong and though the army is on a higher alert, no units have been called upon to serve away from home yet.

Well, the German troops aren't actually doing anything other than watching borders, etc. All the fighting (minus some high command) is done by Rashidi Arabs, Syrians or Egyptians.

Officially, that is...

I was under the impression the Rashidis haven't sent any help yet. What happened with my attempt to round up some Bedouins to fight? Also, in 1951, the Syrian Intel service Dhakiyy Sudiq (Literally intelligent friend, most likely with bad grammar) or DS, will come into operation.

General Montgomery reviews the few photos of the defences in Madras that penetrated the clouds. He is outraged, his forces have sat idly by whilst the enemy built up their strength due to some foreigners talking about a ceasefire. His opinion is that he could easily have taken over Madras at the start of November without too much trouble. Instead of waiting for a treaty that may never be signed. He telegrams London with these views and requests that he is allowed to resume his offensive, he adds that the FAS do not seem to be involved in the peace talks and could want nothing more than to be rid of the rebels.

His motion is granted and Monty cancels the ceasefire with the Communists in late December, he hopes for clear skies for January.

TO DPRSA:

Korea agrees with your proposals. We will hold up our end of the deal. Now, hold up yours.

TO Field Marshal Viscount Bernard Montgomery-

What is this? We are trying to shorten the war and produce concrete results. You will ruin everything the SCT has worked for. I strongly urge you to reconsider this.

HRH Prince Wu of Korea

ooc
I would think that the Central Asians and Kurds would start meddling soon... after all, a lot of Kurds live in northern Persia, and a significant number of ethnic Turks live in Afghanistan. Then we have the Kachins who have fellow tribesmen living in Assam (eastern India), and Tamils who live in both Ceylon and southern India and Nepal, who as recently as a few years back was facing pressure from the FAS.

Communique to the DRPSA

The USEA agrees to these terms and in good faith will release the soldiers captured at Calcutta.
We will also send Nyugen Ai Quoc to help you in talks with the centeral government to gain reform.


Communique to Field Marshal Viscount Bernard Montgomery

We have nearly ended half of this war through peaceful means and yet you only wish to fight. Your actions might ruin all we have worked for, we suggest that you do not continue.


Communique to the FAS government

Dear sirs the rebel DRPSA government has agreed to surrender to joint SCT forces under several conditional terms (enclosed).
We hope you accept these and allow this mindless fighting to stop.

Their terms for surrender are:

-A small multi-national force from the UN probably aided by SCT and British division but with more emphasis on other nationalities.

-No presence of the central government forces, or preferably no millitary ones (might agree to police units so long as they behave and are watched by international observers.)

-An active agenda for social reform by appointing a multi-partisan constitutional commitee in order to organise for elections and upholding the constitution.

-All of our forces will disband except for one light infantry division which will stay as a reserve unit.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh

Mongomery agrees to wait, prompted by the urgings of his assistants. But wishing that the British contingent will see some more action before this war is over he makes preparations for a move to the West to support the hard pressed troops over there and hopefully to restart an offensive, inw hat has recently become a stagnant front. He leaves the South African troops behind to maintain the siege of Madras.

I would think that the Central Asians and Kurds would start meddling soon... after all, a lot of Kurds live in northern Persia, and a significant number of ethnic Turks live in Afghanistan. Then we have the Kachins who have fellow tribesmen living in Assam (eastern India), and Tamils who live in both Ceylon and southern India and Nepal, who as recently as a few years back was facing pressure from the FAS.

Hopefully everything will fall into place once the Ceasefire in the East is agreed to and I can start on the war in the West.

Communique to the FAS government

Dear sirs the rebel DRPSA government has agreed to surrender to joint SCT forces under several conditional terms (enclosed).
We hope you accept these and allow this mindless fighting to stop.

Their terms for surrender are:

-A small multi-national force from the UN probably aided by SCT and British division but with more emphasis on other nationalities.

-No presence of the central government forces, or preferably no millitary ones (might agree to police units so long as they behave and are watched by international observers.)

-An active agenda for social reform by appointing a multi-partisan constitutional commitee in order to organise for elections and upholding the constitution.

-All of our forces will disband except for one light infantry division which will stay as a reserve unit.

Sincerely,

Nyugen Nah Tranh

We will accept this surrender under ONE condition:

All major leaders of the rebels (any military officer with ranked brigadier general and higher, as well as the leaders of all 4 republics) be handed over to the FAS, so that they may be tried for treason.

Turn one of 1951

January-February

Weather conditions improve to standard expected winter weather for all areas.

Anti-Saudi forces win the initiative, then the UIR and Saudis, Then PDRSA, Then FAS

Anti-Saudi

Egyptian troops massing East of the Suez Canal cross the border into Palistine and then Jordan and head for Saudi Arabia, the units are making pretty good going along the paved/metalled roads of the Middle East (specifically the Jerusalam to Medina road that crosses Palestine and Jordan. The convoy consists of the following: Artillery, 3 mech div, 2 inf corps, Hawker Hunter unit and pilot. They end their turn just inside Saudi Arabia, having brushed aside the small guardpost at Halat that controls the border. Warning of the invasion was wired to Riydah before the border guards were captured without bloodshed. The Saudis desperately attempt to recall their military from abriad but are prevented by a British and FAS blockade in the Gulf. The home defence forces are put on full alert and told to hold their positions (1 light inf div at Ha'il, Buraydah, Ad Damman and two in Riydah).

Egyptian fighters, covering the convoy from Eastern Egypt, attempt to attack the defenders in Ha'il but cause little effect.

Syrian troops are also dispatched and arrive inside Saudi Arabia late in February, hoping to strike Riydah. Though the traffic of Egyptian logistics vehicles slows them slightly. The contingent consists of 1 Armored Division, 1 Mountain Brigade, 1 Air Combat Wing (100 Saab 29s) and a pilot.

The Rashidis begin operations in North Arabia and dispatch guerrilla forces to the South alongside the German trained regulars of an infantry corps. Two pilots are also fully trained by Germans arnd await consignment of TA-183 aircraft from Germany.

Germany also gets involved personally with a continegnt of 6 infantry and 2 flak divisions arriving in Western Arabia. Also a gift of 2 TA-183Ds aircraft units are made to the Rashidis. 2 paratroop brigades move to protect the Omani border.

UIR/Saudi turn:

The SU sends: Two fighters(1 Saab 29 and 1 Voodoo F101) and one light bomber(Tu14) to the Saudis.

Saudi Builds for the year: 2 Infantry Corps, 9 light infantry, 2 pilots, 2 MiG 19, .5 to arm assassins.

Turn up: Jan-Feb 2 light inf div; Mar-Apr 2 light inf div, 1 inf corps; May-Jun 2 light inf div, 1 pilot, 1 mig; Jul-Aug 1 light inf div, 1 inf corps; Sep-Oct 2 light inf div;

The 2 light infantry are deployed as folows: 1 in Ha'il and 1 in Buraydah.

Saudi and UIR forces attack an FAS armoured unit in Pakistan. 1 artillery, 1 mech div, 2 inf div attack and destroy the armoured div at the cost of the mech div.

A major offensive from Kabul sees the UIR send in 2 mech divs, against a L inf div outside Peshawar. This results in the defender being destroyed and the atacker carrying the position without loss.

One other mech div is shifter to Kabul.

UIR builds:

x5 mujahideen divisions 5 points
X2 Infantry Corps 10 points
X2 Mech. Artillery group 10 points
X2 Mech. Inf. Div. 8 points

By month: Jan/Feb: 2 mujahideen divs, Mar/Apr: 1 inf corps, 1 inf div, May/Jun: 1 mech arty, 1 mech inf, Jul/Aug: 1 mech inf, 1 inf div, Sep/Oct: 1 inf div, Nov/Dec: 1 inf corps.

2 mujahideen divs are deployed at Bandar Abbas.

PDRSA:

All forces hold position whilst ceasefire is worked out. Reinforcements put on hold so as not to alarm negotiators.

FAS:

British troops move to Nagpur on their way to the Western front. One mech div is sen tback to Ceylon.

South Africans, USEA, Koreans all hold position whilst negotiations occur.

Builds:

x13 armored division
x8 P2V Neptune
x8 Average Pilots
x10 Mustard Gas "batches"
x2 Parachute Divisions
x4 Improved MRBMs
x20 Light Infantry

Jan/Feb
3 Light div
1 para div
1 batch Gas
2 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

Mar/Apr
4 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

May/Jun
3 light div
1 para div
1 batch gas
2 pilots and neptunes
3 arm div

Jul/Aug
3 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

Sep/Oct
4 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

Nov/Dec
3 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div.

Deployments this turn:
3 Light div (1 in Lahore, 1 in Karachi, 1 in Lucknow)
1 para div (in Lahore)
1 batch Gas (Agra)
2 pilots and neptunes (Agra)
2 arm div (1 Lahore, 1 Karachi)

The British responses cause some concern but overal the SCT response offsets it. The central government's condition is also acceptable under the condition that the trials be held on neutral and fair grounds (We suggest Burma or Tibet) with the prescence of international observers and these leaders be held under the custody of SCT or British forces.

We believe that this is fair and if nothing goes wrong we promise that difusion of the current situations will continue.

To show good faith, Aga Khan III and several of his republic's commanders along with the recently called up mechanised division lay down their arms and surrender to the British forces in the traditional British fashion.

OOC: Hope that satisfyes that egotistical Montgomery...

To show good faith, Aga Khan III and several of his republic's commanders along with the recently called up mechanised division lay down their arms and surrender to the British forces in the traditional British fashion.

Monty allows the surrendered PDRSA military to march out of Madras in a ceremonial collumn, with flags unfurled and with their arms. Once they reach the limit of the city's borders they are informed to lay down their weapons and are transferred to the custody of the South African forces so that the British troops are free to march West to support the new FAS reinforcements.

Thus it shall be said that no attacker breached the defences of Madras.

Monty forwards a note to the FAS leaders stating that the enemy were fair opponents and that no warcrimes were committed upon British forces to his knowledge. He hopes for leniency for the military commanders, but can say nothing for the civilians as it is outside his experience and for the FAS ot decide in civilian courts.

Turn one of 1951

January-February

Weather conditions improve to standard expected winter weather for all areas.

Anti-Saudi forces win the initiative, then the UIR and Saudis, Then PDRSA, Then FAS

Anti-Saudi

Egyptian troops massing East of teh Suez Canal cross the border into Palistine and then Jordan and head for Saudi Arabia, the units are making pretty good going along the paved/metalled roads of the Middle East (specifically the Jerusalam to Medina road that crosses Palestine and Jordan. The conviy consists of the following: Artillery, 3 mech div, 2 inf corps, Hawker Hunter unit and pilot. They end their turn just inside Saudi Arabia, having brushed aside the small guardpost that controls the border. Warning of teh invasion was wired to Riydah before the border guards were captured without bloodshed. The Saudis desperately attempt to recall their military from abriad but are prevented by a British and FAS blockade in the Gulf. The home defence forces are put on full alert and told to hold their positions (1 light inf div at Medina, Mecca, Border with Kuwait and two in Riydah).

Egyptian fighters, covering the convoy from Eastern Egypt, attempt to attack the defenders in Medina but cause little effect (perhaps the pilots are muslims and do not wish to damage this holy city?).

The Egyptian local commander asks permission from his HQ , to attack Medina next turn whilst defending forces are still weak.

Syrian troops are also dispatched and arrive inside Saudi Arabia late in February, hoping to strike Riydah. Though the traffic of Egyptian logistics vehicles slows them slightly. The contingent consists of 1 Armored Division, 1 Mountain Brigade, 1 Air Combat Wing (100 Saab 29s) and a pilot.

The Rashidis begin operations in North Arabia and dispatch guerrilla forces to the South alongside German trained regulars of an infantry corps. Two pilots are also fully trained by Germans arnd await consignment of TA-183 aircraft from Germany.

germany also gets involved personally with a continegnt of 6 infantry and 2 flak divisions arriving in Western Arabia. Also a gift of 2 TA-183Ds aircraft units are made to the Rashidis. 2 paratroop brigades move to protect the Omani border.

UIR/Saudi turn:

The SU sends: Two fighters(1 Saab 29 and 1 Voodoo F101) and one light bomber(Tu14) to the Saudis.

Saudi Builds for the year: 2 Infantry Corps, 9 light infantry, 2 pilots, 2 MiG 19, .5 to arm assassins.

Turn up: Jan-Feb 2 light inf div; Mar-Apr 2 light inf div, 1 inf corps; May-Jun 2 light inf div, 1 pilot, 1 mig; Jul-Aug 1 light inf div, 1 inf corps; Sep-Oct 2 light inf div;

The 2 light infantry are deployed as folows: 1 in Medina, 1 on Kuwaiti border.

Saudi and UIR forces attack an FAS armoured unit in Pakistan. 1 artillery, 1 mech div, 2 inf div attack and destroy the armoured div at the cost of the mech div.

A major offensive from Kabul sees the UIR send in 2 mech divs, against a L inf div outside Peshawar. This results in the defender being destroyed and the atacker carrying the position without loss.

One other mech div is shifter to Kabul.

UIR builds:

x5 mujahideen divisions 5 points
X2 Infantry Corps 10 points
X2 Mech. Artillery group 10 points
X2 Mech. Inf. Div. 8 points

By month: Jan/Feb: 2 mujahideen divs, Mar/Apr: 1 inf corps, 1 inf div, May/Jun: 1 mech arty, 1 mech inf, Jul/Aug: 1 mech inf, 1 inf div, Sep/Oct: 1 inf div, Nov/Dec: 1 inf corps.

2 mujahideen divs are deployed at Bandar Abbas.

PDRSA:

All forces hold position whilst ceasefire is worked out. Reinforcements put on hold so as not to alarm negotiators.

FAS:

British troops move to Nagpur on their way to the Western front. One mech div is sen tback to Ceylon.

South Africans, USEA, Koreans all hold position whilst negotiations occur.

Builds:

x13 armored division
x8 P2V Neptune
x8 Average Pilots
x10 Mustard Gas "batches"
x2 Parachute Divisions
x4 Improved MRBMs
x20 Light Infantry

Jan/Feb
3 Light div
1 para div
1 batch Gas
2 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

Mar/Apr
4 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

May/Jun
3 light div
1 para div
1 batch gas
2 pilots and neptunes
3 arm div

Jul/Aug
3 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

Sep/Oct
4 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div

Nov/Dec
3 light div
1 MRBM
2 batch gas
1 pilots and neptunes
2 arm div.

Deployments this turn:
3 Light div (1 in Lahore, 1 in Karachi, 1 in Lucknow)
1 para div (in Lahore)
1 batch Gas (Agra)
2 pilots and neptunes (Agra)
2 arm div (1 Lahore, 1 Karachi)

ooc
don't forget, Jiddah, Medina and Mecca belong to the Sultanate of Western Arabia, not the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (which controls the eastern section of the country). Oman would not be amused if Egypt attacks its client state.

Syria and Egypt are helping fight the Saudis, and helping the Rashidis. I think Abassia was just unclear about who owned what. Perhaps the Mecca/Medina units were in Dammam and Dharan?

don't forget, Jiddah, Medina and Mecca belong to the Sultanate of Western Arabia, not the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (which controls the eastern section of the country). Oman would not be amused if Egypt attacks its client state

Thanks for that GB, I must have forgotten about that somewhere along the way. I'll change the post to reflect this.

A bit embarassing to forget about an entire country!

OOC: Yeah, I forgot about the Turks. I was also thinking about having the Sikhs make noises. That would make the place a lot more fun :p

Parthini']OOC: Yeah, I forgot about the Turks. I was also thinking about having the Sikhs make noises. That would make the place a lot more fun :p

OOC: Sikhs? What the hell do they have to do with you?

The SU sends: Two fighters(1 Saab 29 and 1 Voodoo F101) and one light bomber(Tu14) to the Saudis.



OOC: Piloted by Scandic Elite pilots, along with a mech brigade

OOC: Piloted by Scandic Elite pilots, along with a mech brigade

Cheers, I wasn't sure whether they were gifts in material only or actually had Scandic troops, it gets a bit confusing with all the secretive IC stuff going on. I'll ensure you get your men in there. Could be interesting once the Egyptians notice...

ooc: not sure if it really matters but the Australian fighter wing had expert pilots.

Cheers, I wasn't sure whether they were gifts in material only or actually had Scandic troops, it gets a bit confusing with all the secretive IC stuff going on. I'll ensure you get your men in there. Could be interesting once the Egyptians notice...

Much more interesting when the Germans notice...

OOC: Mech Division, not brigade.


My military is located here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467777

But, anyways, Germany, you sent men to.

OOC:

So the DPRSA has surrendered, right?

OOC:

So the DPRSA has surrendered, right?

OOC: As far as Korea is concerned. Though we should RP any talks for a permanent solution (if you wish-otherwise, we can say that some sort of compromise was reached that was sorta favorable to both sides).

OOC: As far as Korea is concerned. Though we should RP any talks for a permanent solution (if you wish-otherwise, we can say that some sort of compromise was reached that was sorta favorable to both sides).

OOC: Excelent. Let the executions begin!

OOC: Excelent. Let the executions begin!

OOC: (Semi-not-serious-tone) Woah! Did I not just say we should RP any talks for a permanent solution? That's whats listed in the Battle Reports, anyway-we're at talks.

OOC: (Semi-not-serious-tone) Woah! Did I not just say we should RP any talks for a permanent solution? That's whats listed in the Battle Reports, anyway-we're at talks.

OOC: We're at talks, eh?

IC:

The FAS will accept the surrender proposal that includes:

-A small multi-national force from the UN probably aided by SCT and British division but with more emphasis on other nationalities.

-No presence of the central government forces, or preferably no millitary ones (might agree to police units so long as they behave and are watched by international observers.)

-An active agenda for social reform by appointing a multi-partisan constitutional commitee in order to organise for elections and upholding the constitution.

-All of our forces will disband except for one light infantry division which will stay as a reserve unit.

Under ONE condition:

All major leaders of the rebels (any military officer with ranked brigadier general and higher, as well as the leaders of all 4 republics) be handed over to the FAS, so that they may be tried for treason.

We have stated this before, and we will state it again.

OOC: We're at talks, eh?

IC:

The FAS will accept the surrender proposal that includes:



Under ONE condition:

All major leaders of the rebels (any military officer with ranked brigadier general and higher, as well as the leaders of all 4 republics) be handed over to the FAS, so that they may be tried for treason.

We have stated this before, and we will state it again.

SIC:

I have spoken with the Commander-In-Chief of Korean Armed Forces (OOC: Wu's Dad, Emperor Gang) and my staff. We conclude that the proposal is just-after all, we did the same to Kim Il-Sung when he revolted along with his "comrades." However, we would like to have UN Observers at the trials and/or strong media coverage to ensure a fair trial for the accused, who seemed to have revolted for just grievances.

HRH Prince Wu of Korea

The British responses cause some concern but overal the SCT response offsets it. The central government's condition is also acceptable under the condition that the trials be held on neutral and fair grounds (We suggest Burma or Tibet) with the prescence of international observers and these leaders be held under the custody of SCT or British forces.

We believe that this is fair and if nothing goes wrong we promise that difusion of the current situations will continue.

We are still waiting a response for our response. We are also waiting for a response from the UN on our request for a resolution to affirm its role in the peace process.

OOC: I think I still have 2 mechanised div. and some light infantry that are on hold for talks in Madras. After all, only Aga Khan III, his commanders and a mechanised div. surrendered to show good faith and that we plan to continue negotiations.

The CIA quietly offers political asylum to selected rebels who are known to have liberal or socialist beliefs. The more hardline communists, as well as hardline Moslems are not offered such. This information is not released to the FAS government, but the British are consulted. It is pointed out that if the rebel leaders flee instead of fight, the eventual death toll in India will be lessened.

We are still waiting a response for our response. We are also waiting for a response from the UN on our request for a resolution to affirm its role in the peace process.

OOC: I think I still have 2 mechanised div. and some light infantry that are on hold for talks in Madras. After all, only Aga Khan III, his commanders and a mechanised div. surrendered to show good faith and that we plan to continue negotiations.

OOC: Y'know, it's actually worse now that we're holding you guys up for treason trials overseas. Y'see, I only planned to execute Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, Premier of the DPRSA. Everyone else would be given pardon. Now, however, everyone is going to see trial, including military officiers (who will be tried for deserting, and you guys know what happens to deserters...)

IC:

We agree to hold the trials on neutral ground. We suggest Lhasa, Tibet, if the Tibetans agree to it.

OOC2: Anyone get the feeling that Tibet is going to turn into the Switzerland of Asia?

Turn two of 1951

March-April

Weather maintain standard expected weather for all areas.

FAS forces win the initiative, then Anti-Saudis and then the Saudis and UIR.

FAS

British troops hand their prisoners over to South African custody and begin to head West, they reach the Western Hyderabad, making use of FAS railways and road networks.

British Fleet vessels move to protect the Omani coastline and to improve the blockade in the Gulf, Australian subs arrive as well and supplement existing FAS vessels.

British mech unit from Cylon is shifted by a sea move to Oman to maintain order an dprotect the border.

Korean and USEA forces continue to wait outside the communist towns of the East, alongside the SA forces at Madras.

The FAS mobilises a massive assault on the UIR units in the mountains outside Kabul. Utilising 2 armoured divisions, a paratroops brigade and 3 light infantry divisions they assault the defending UIR infantry division. Mustard gas is released from FAS transport aircraft standing in as bombers (still used this trick as late as 1982, when the Argies bombed British merchant marine vessels in South Atlantic using cargo planes). The mustard gas helps somewhat as the defenders are totally unprepared for the use and it gathers in their caves and foxholes. 2 Neptune bomber aircraft are also used. The assault is bloody and manages to wipe out the defenders but at the cost of one armoured division and a light infantry division destroyed and 2 light infantry divisions disordered.

The rest of the UIR army hears of the useage of gas and begins to ask the world market for gas masks for it's troops to supplement the few they have "aquired" from FAS army depots and stores. In particular they ask the SU for help on this matter, if not they'll set up makeshift factories to crank out a stop gap solution.

FAS light infantry and an armoured division, supported by the British and Korean paratroop force and British/Australian fighter aircraft attacks the UIR armour outside of Kabul, overwhelmed the defenders are destroyed for no loss.

Anti-Saudi forces

Rashidi and Syrian armies move South through teh desert and along roads to be in a position to attack major Saudi cities next turn.

The Egyptian forces go into action against the defenders of Ha'il. Witha n overwhelming superiority of numbers they carry the city and eliminate the defenders for no loss. One infantry corps is disordered however.

Egyptian fighters, supported by two wings of Rashidi fighters attempt to disorder the defenders of Buraydah however a force of two Scandic Union fighter units sorties to stop them. In the resulting dogfight one SU fighter is destroyed along with one Rashidi fighter. The Rashidi pilots are removed from action, but the SU pilot survives and takes refuge in Buraydah. The Defenders are unaffected by the firefight going on above their heads as neither side gains a significant advantage.

Questions are raised by some in the Egyptian airforce over the quality of the enemy air corps, but no one suspects the Scandinavians yet as all pilots who crashed (and evidence of SU involvement) were over Buraydah and that still remains in Saudi hands. Though a couple of reconnaissance experts in the Egyptian fighter wing believe the enemy may have been scandinavian made, they do not know the nationality of the pilot and couldn't positively ID the enemy (difficult to focus on unfamiliar plane types when they're shooting at you).

Saudi turn

Reinforcements are deployed to cities in danger of attack, whilst remaining defenders await the enemy.

The SU mechanised division moves to teh capital, Riydah and prepares for it's defence.

The SU pilot makes it to Riydah and reports to the SU forces there for reassignment.

FNS will send gasmasks to the populous of UIR, as the use of any kind of chemical warfare is absolutely insidious. We will also be deploying a brigade of mountain infantry, aboard the heavy missile cruiser Manuel Ancizar, along with a flotilla of destroyers and frigates for observation duties.

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The FAS mobilises a massive assault on the UIR units in the mountains outside Kabul. Utilising 2 armoured divisions, a paratroops brigade and 3 light infantry divisions they assault the defending UIR infantry division. Mustard gas is released from FAS transport aircraft standing in as bombers (still used this trick as late as 1982, when the Argies bombed British merchant marine vessels in South Atlantic using cargo planes). The mustard gas helps somewhat as the defenders are totally unprepared for the use and it gathers in their caves and foxholes. 2 Neptune bomber aircraft are also used. The assault is bloody and manages to wipe out the defenders but at the cost of one armoured division and a light infantry division destroyed and 2 light infantry divisions disordered.
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The United States warns that the FAS violation of the UN Convention banning the use of chemical weapons will not be tolerated. Any further use will see an American trade embargo on the FAS and further use may also see US intervention, with or without the UN. The US also discusses the matter with Russia and the Central Asian Republic, and seeks permission to base American combat aircraft in Central Asia to ensure to patrol Afghanistan and ensure that no further air attacks involving chemical weapons are used.

A transcript of radio transmissions from the area verifying the chemical attack is also released to the British, Canadian and American press.

ooc
need NPC referee to decide if the Central Asians and Russians are willing to go along with that. The size of this battle, and signals intelligence would have been enough to alert the Americans as to what happened (remember, the US has military forces in Russia still, and would be flying around with EB47 survellience aircraft, probably along the Central Asian / Afghani border to monitor events)

The US also shifts events to the UN, where a UN Security Council resolution sponsered by the US calls for the FAS to lose its mandates over Persia and Afghanistan, and for an arms embargo on the FAS. Persia would gain independence (except for the Kurdish parts that would go to Kurdistan) and Afghanistan would be handed over to the Central Asians to bring to independence eventually.

News of use of chemical weapons in a campaign where Australasian troops were present causes a massive backlash at home politically. The Menzies government, in an effort to placate the population, publically orders that RAAF units in India are to stand down from participation in any future Commonwealth offensives until the results of an investigation are brought forward. Naval units are not mentioned, but are quietly encouraged to continue blockade efforts.

SIC: It is made known to Montgomery and his staff that the Australians are still willing to fly recon missions, and should the proper promises be made by all parties that this was an isolated incident that the stand-down order will be rescinded.

OOC: Y'know, it's actually worse now that we're holding you guys up for treason trials overseas. Y'see, I only planned to execute Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, Premier of the DPRSA. Everyone else would be given pardon. Now, however, everyone is going to see trial, including military officiers (who will be tried for deserting, and you guys know what happens to deserters...)

IC:

We agree to hold the trials on neutral ground. We suggest Lhasa, Tibet, if the Tibetans agree to it.

OOC2: Anyone get the feeling that Tibet is going to turn into the Switzerland of Asia?

OOC: But the government of Yahya Khan is far from being the legitimate government of the FAS, the Rebel leaders will defend themselves on the grounds that they are loyal to the legitimate government of the late M.Jinnah, of whom I believe Suhrawardy was a sort of a protege'. With the trials under international attention and watch this may have some weight.

The People Democratic Republic of South Asia agrees to sheath the sword and take up the word, either way we fight for the People.
Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy and the rest of his commanders hold their heads high as they march on and lay down their arms to the SCT commanders as they allow USEA and Korean troops to enter Madras.

The fate of their brave leaders is watched closely by the people...

OOC: But the government of Yahya Khan is far from being the legitimate government of the FAS, the Rebel leaders will defend themselves on the grounds that they are loyal to the legitimate government of the late M.Jinnah, of whom I believe Suhrawardy was a sort of a protege'. With the trials under international attention and watch this may have some weight.

The People Democratic Republic of South Asia agrees to sheath the sword and take up the word, either way we fight for the People.
Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy and the rest of his commanders hold their heads high as they march on and lay down their arms to the SCT commanders as they allow USEA and Korean troops to enter Madras.

The fate of their brave leaders is watched closely by the people...

HRH Prince Wu and C-in-C Emperor Gang (in another round of hospital stays) approves Korean forces entering Madras, and they promptly enter.

Meanwhile, news of Chemical Weapons attacks leads to protests in Pusan and Seoul in front of the Royal Palace. Social Democrats also make a statement of protest as well. Kim Gu urges calm, and the Korean populace is placated when Gu gets the Emperor to issue a statement to the FAS Government that is politely worded but stern, urging the FAS not to use chemical weapons any further and oddly enough, agreeing to hold trials in Tibet.

The Kaiser strongly condemns the use of chemical weapons so soon after their terrible useage killed millions in the last World War.

Russia and the CAR agree to the American terms.

Large joint ISP and UWP protests gather in Saigon and Hanoi at the news of the FAS' usage of chemical weapons on it's own people.

The Prime Minister Vinh Binh Tuan issues a statement warning that the use of such weapons especially against your own people will make conditions worse in the long run.

Egyptian forces have been ordered to garrison in Ha'il to get reorganized. President Nassar announced to the public, "The area around Ha'il is the kingdom's main source of wheat and agriculture. If the Saudi Family doesn't surrender within the next year, the starving population will do our job for us." Egyptian air support has been withdrawn to the areas in or around Ha'il to rest, refuel, etc. Unless allied forces request air support, Egyptian jets are to patrol Ha'il and the surrounding areas.

Concerning the FAS's use of chemical weapons, Nassar simply states, " It is a difficult choice to use such weapons. Although I am not angered by the matter, I simply point out that the civil war will most likely continue if the FAS continues to anger it's population. I would not recommend another chemical attack, or else more may flock to your opponent's side."

Finally, Egypt wishes to know Western Arabia and Oman's opinion of the Saudi War. Although we are not encouraging them to join in, we simply wish to know if they are happy about the fall of the Saudi Family and if this improves/degrades their opinions of the coalition (especially me and Syria).

Parthini']

Russia and the CAR agree to the American terms.

the 15th Air Force, based in Russia, shifts the 48th Fighter Wing (F101A), and 52nd Bomb Wing (B57) to Samarkand. Soon after, the 9th Refueling Wing (KC97) is shifted from the Philippines to Samarkand as well. Also shifted are a flight of EB47 surviellence aircraft (now based at Sverdlovsk) and the US 2nd Cavalry Regiment (an armored brigade) is sent by rail to Samarkand as well.

US B52s based out of the US begin making training flights over the North Pole to Central Asia and back home again. Meanwhile, the 5th Fleet has one carrier battlegroup (with a pair of cruisers as well) near the entrance of the Persian Gulf, and the battleship Iowa, along with a pair of destroyer escorts, makes a show the flag visit to Muscat, Oman.

The newly founded Space and Missile Corps has begun planning for 1952. In conjuction with the other branches, they have decided to concentrate on attacking air facilities with missile attacks, reducing the capability of Saudi Air Force. This is especially important so that the aging Saab 29s can be kept safe before their potential transfer to Brazil, and replacement by Mirage III's. Syrian Army units, now under total control of Crown Prince Amin (the king's son), will link up with the Egyptians in Ha'il and try to force the Saudis into surrender. If, after a reasonable amount of time (say the turn after they get there) they do not surrender, units will advance straight on Riyadh.

The US Government orders a halt to sales of military spare parts, equipment, aircraft and weapons to the FAS.

ooc
Essentially means maintenance costs should probably double for any US built aircraft belonging to FAS, as spares will require considerable effort to obtain.

OOC:if it is within my juristiction...

The Loyal supporters of the -now surrendered- DPRSA begin to hold rallies and protests in Calcutta, Madras, Hyderabad, Bombay and other parts of the FAS in support of their leaders and in protest over the barbarity of the central government.

The people are urged to speak out against the mad dictatorship and begin a campaign of passive insubordination by organising strikes and blockades of the local rail.

OOC:if it is within my juristiction...

The Loyal supporters of the -now surrendered- DPRSA begin to hold rallies and protests in Calcutta, Madras, Hyderabad, Bombay and other parts of the FAS in support of their leaders and in protest over the barbarity of the central government.

The people are urged to speak out against the mad dictatorship and begin a campaign of passive insubordination by organising strikes and blockades of the local rail.

Government Response:

Unless the protesters receive an official government permit for their demonstrations, they shall be met by Riot Police (OOC: I assume we have tear gas and rubber bullets, right?) in all cities and locations under FAS jurisdiction. In areas being policed by the allies, we ask the military commanders to do the same.

The US Government orders a halt to sales of military spare parts, equipment, aircraft and weapons to the FAS.

ooc
Essentially means maintenance costs should probably double for any US built aircraft belonging to FAS, as spares will require considerable effort to obtain.

The Government of the FAS is deeply disturbed by these actions made by the US government. While it saddens us, we must respond to said embargo on military goods on our nation. Therefore, the FAS officially declares that it will cease selling military spare parts, equipment, aircraft, and weapons to the entire world. While this may hurt our economy, the world must see that Agra is not the pawn of Washington, and that we will not sway from our course due to said act.

OOC: This isn't really that much, but since I am the nation that manufactures the AK-47, any other nation that has said weapons will probably have to pay twice as much, either to get spare parts or to switch over to another type of weapon.

Government Response:

Unless the protesters receive an official government permit for their demonstrations, they shall be met by Riot Police (OOC: I assume we have tear gas and rubber bullets, right?) in all cities and locations under FAS jurisdiction. In areas being policed by the allies, we ask the military commanders to do the same.

Rallies go ahead anyway, clashes with police are expected if the the rallies are attempted to be disrupted, which would probably escelate to riots (using small arms and home-mad molotovs)

Rallies go ahead anyway, clashes with police are expected if the the rallies are attempted to be disrupted, which would probably escelate to riots (using small arms and home-mad molotovs)

OOC: Don't forget, you're dealing with a military dictatorship. They'll only use non-lethal weapons until real damage comes in. Then comes in the army.

SIC: It is made known to Montgomery and his staff that the Australians are still willing to fly recon missions, and should the proper promises be made by all parties that this was an isolated incident that the stand-down order will be rescinded.

Monty makes it known that he in no way supported the chemical weapons attacks and that British Intelligence was unaware of any such capability until the unfortunate incident. He states that British troops are using only conventional means of attack and will continue to do so unless otherwise attacked by the enemy. He sends a note to the FAS government urging them not to consider any more chemical attacks, but recognises their complete authority in the actions of their troops.

Monty thanks the Australian CiC for allowing continued recon missions and hoping for a return to action of the valuable Australian forces once the FAS delivers a reply.

Acknowleding the loss of air cover he asks the MoD to allow the deployment of a wing of Avro Vulcan heavy bombers from their station at Brize Norton. The troops on Ceylon are put to work establishing a large runway there for them. He also makes a request for another division of troops if one can be spared, potentially from Nigeria as they will be gaining independence shortly and their military is already partially trained up for then devolution.

(The Vulcans will obviously not be carrying Nuclear Weapons!)

Finally he makes sure that every British serviceman is issued a gas mask from the depot at Bombay/Mumbai. OOC: Just in case...

The Government of the FAS is deeply disturbed by these actions made by the US government. While it saddens us, we must respond to said embargo on military goods on our nation. Therefore, the FAS officially declares that it will cease selling military spare parts, equipment, aircraft, and weapons to the entire world. While this may hurt our economy, the world must see that Agra is not the pawn of Washington, and that we will not sway from our course due to said act.

OOC: This isn't really that much, but since I am the nation that manufactures the AK-47, any other nation that has said weapons will probably have to pay twice as much, either to get spare parts or to switch over to another type of weapon.

ooc
This will simply make the FN FAL and the M14 and the G3 the most popular firearms in the world. And reduce the supplies of cheap weapons in the future to nasty people. In game terms, probably no real effect.

IC
The US ignores the FAS statement and continues pressure in the UN. In addition, a production run is ordered for chemical warfare suits and masks to be exported to nations that border India. (points will be spent next year)

Yahya Khan Overthrown

When it became obvious that the most important Western nation in the world had withdrawn it's support for the FAS, and many other allied nations weren't far behind, the military of the FAS decided to take action into it's own hands. At 0330, October 27th, tanks stationed outside the Presidential Palace in Agra fired on the palace. Military forces stormed the streets of Agra, and fighting erupted on the streets. Soldiers who were supporters of Ayub Khan beseiged the Presidential Palace, Central Army HQ, and Parliament buildings, in which pro-government supporters, including Yahya Khan and his top generals, were hiding out.

About 30 minutes into the fighting, crowds of anti-government rioters swarmed onto the streets. They, with the support of the army, then stormed all pro-government garrisons in the city. Around 0500, Yahya Khan and his top generals were brought to the Central Army HQ, and thrown into an air-tight prison cell. A rogue Colonel took matters into his own hands, and flooded the room with Mustard Gas, killing Yahya Khan and a large portion of his military Junta.

In the aftermath of the violent coup, Ayub Khan declared that he would end the war by declaring peace with the UIR. The cease-fire came into effect the next day, October 28th. This move was welcomed by the vast majority of the Indian population, who saw the Civil War as being directly caused by the government of Yahya Khan. The new government ordered a free and fair elections to be held in all of the Republics that supported the DPRSA and the UIR, to see if they shall re-join the FAS, or create their own, independent nations.

Meanwhile, a large amount of military governers installed by Yahya Khan have gone missing, and the houses of many pro-Yahya Khan families have been burned down, and violent muggings and rapes against those families have also exploded over the last few days. Also, a large amount of pro-Yahya Khan villages have been reporting strange gases being released near their villages, and domestic animals and the elderly and young dying.

ooc. Sorry I hadn't posted for so long. I was a bit busy with a new RP and school. I understand the FAS main government has got itself in difficulties when it used Mustard Gas and Kabul was retaken. Any other things I missed?

ooc. Sorry I hadn't posted for so long. I was a bit busy with a new RP and school. I understand the FAS main government has got itself in difficulties when it used Mustard Gas and Kabul was retaken. Any other things I missed?

OOC: The war is over. You win.

:eek: Wow, FAS Government steps down!

June-July Turn 1951

UIR win initaiative, new units (1 inf corps, 1 light div) moved to Kabul for defence.

Outside Bandar Abbas: 1 artillery, 3 light inf attack on eFAS infantry div. results in defender destroyed for no loss.

The Saudis hold their ground whilst building up their forces, a SU fighter is flown is as a replacement for the one lost.

FAS come next

They use four neptunes and a new MRBM to attack Kabul and result in 2 light infantry disordered. 2 new armoured divisions and two light divisions are thrown into the assault alongside pre-existing para brigade, armoured brigade and light infantry. Results in two light inf disordered and all defenders destroyed. Kabul is captured and damaged as FAS numbers begin to tell (though the new divisions are lower quality than the old ones).

One new light inf div is used alongside a pre existing LI div and an armoured div to attack remaining UIR forces South of Kabul. Again numbers tell, though the attackers lose anl inf div in the process as the defender is destroyed.

British and South African forces move West, the British fighters attempt (and fail) to disrupt a UIR l inf div near Bandar Abbas. Monty is not allowed his Vulcans just yet as MI6 are investigating alongside the German intelience forces into reports of Scandinavian involvement in the Saudi affair.

The Anti-Saudi forces consolidate their gains and are content to sit it out in Ha'il whilst the Saudi begin to feel the effects of war. No fighters are put into the air after the superiority of the "Saudi" air force was noted last time.

OOC: The war is over. You win.

ooc. Hurrah! But maybe some areas will vote to rejoin the FAS. Now lets turn our attention to the Arabian Peninsula...

:eek: Wow, FAS Government steps down!

Err, stepped down wouldn't be the term I would use. I would use the term brutally executed in an orgy of violence, spreading down to the lowest provincial leader.

Err, stepped down wouldn't be the term I would use. I would use the term brutally executed in an orgy of violence, spreading down to the lowest provincial leader.

Hehehe, I always say things in a "light" way :D

Wow a military coup!

Anyway:

August-September

Anti-Saudi

The Rashidis, Syrians and Egyptians again simply wait in Ha'il for developments.

The fighters are readied to meet any opposition in the air.

FAS

The military reinforces the western defences but is otherwise content to hold onto Kabul and see what the UIR does.

British and South African forces reach the Western front and hold the hills outside Bandar Abbas. No attacks can be made this turn. Air units attack once more and fail.

The FAS begins to scale down it's chemical weapons development but there are murmerings of discontent at the war within the populace and the military, perhaps the reason for no assaults this turn? Towards the end of September FAS forces mutiny against the government. In the resulting chaos a new military provisional government is estabished and it declares peace in India.

Saudi

In an attempt to regain Ha'il the SU aircraft take to the skies and attack the defenders. The Rashidis and Egyptians scramble their fighters and attempt to intercept. However they are obviously outclassed by the better aircraft and the luck they enjoyed last time has run out. The Rashidis lose a pilot and a TA180 again, the Egyptians are forced to abort lest they suffer the same effect. The SU aircraft make it through and disrupt a Rashidi infantry corps and an Egyptian mech div.

The Saudis launch a major assault on Ha'il with 6 light infantry divisions and an infantry corps. In the resulting action an Egyptian mechanised and armoured division are destroyed as well as the Rashidi Infantry Corps. 4 attacking divisions are destroyed as well and everyone else is disrupted. (Some terrible dice rolls here made this a pretty bloody engagement). Despite the bloodshed the engagement is a standoff and both forces are forced to stop through sheer exhaustion and losses.

The Saudis raise their new forces in the West to support a potential assault next turn.

British, German, Egyptian, Syrian and American forces in the area analyse data from observation flights and leaked from sources as to the identity of the "Saudi" fighters. All discover that they are Scandic made, but the Egyptians and Syrians (as well as Germans in the Rashidi army) manage to capture SU pilots who bailed out of a couple of SU planes shot down luckily in the fight over Ha'il. It is discovered that they are Scandic and this information is passed on to their respective governments.

I had to hastily reqwrite the last combat report due to the coup, luckily no FAS forces were fighting anywhere (all were holding ground recovering from last time) so I just needed to add in a bit about the coup.

USA intelligence personnel also put more effort into instigating a coup in Saudi Arabia, hoping that the people will be dismayed at the bloodshed and foreign intervention in their country.

OOC: LR, check your TGs.

OOC: Replied...

IC: British forces begin plans for a withdrawal, especially with revelations concerning potential SU involvement. In the meantime Britain continues the blockade of the Gulf (solely for the protection of Commonwealt Kuwait and Oman, of course!) and maintains a semi-agressive stance with the UIR. Though any ships dispatched will likely get through as Britain does not want to cause an international incident. General Montgomery orders his forces to halt where they are and await further orders from London once the new situation is understood, they will react to being fired upon but are unsure of what to make of any troops at this time.

The main bulk of the Indian Ocean fleet returns to routine patrols, except for the carrier (and escort) and blockade flotilla.

Some FAS units begin to melt away in the confusion of the coup, however many stay as a cohesive unit, including much of the forces in Kabul and the rest of the Western front.

Now that the situation has stabilized the two infantry corps and Marine Air Support wing are being ordered to prepare to ship back to Indochina.
The rest of the forces in the FAS are for the time being to remain there.


Communique the FAS provisional government:

The USEA recognizes your government and while your coming to power was not bey the most desirable means we hope that you and and any future democratically elected government of the FAS can provide what all of Asia wishes, a stable and peaceful FAS.

We also wish to know if you require any assistance from SCT forces currently in the FAS, if not we will begin a complete withdrawl.

Sincerely,

Prime Minister,
Vinh Binh Tuan

HRH Prince Wu recieves orders from Emperor Gang to stand down until the situation in India can be fully understood, as well. Meanwhile, with peace declared in India by the new Government, Korea then wires the New FAS Government, saying that it will recognize it and unless it needs helps with UIC forces, Korea will withdraw forces.

Kim Gu's government, meanwhile, has to contend with being lampooned as "Quixotic" and "Confused" in the Korean Press, with pictures of Gu and his Cabinet being mocked as Don Quixote and Sancho Panza jousting windmills. Only a recent round of social legislation (OOC: Upgraded to level 4 Social Spending) keeps the more savage criticism somewhat down. Still, opposition to the war remains limited, as people wait to see what will happen.

The South American Observation Group will remain in the area, in case the fledgling government needs assistance.

However they are obviously outclassed by the better aircraft and the luck they enjoyed last time has run out.

Outclassing two Hawker Hunters with Expert Pilots? What are these guys flying?

British, German, Egyptian, Syrian and American forces in the area analyse data from observation flights and leaked from sources as to the identity of the "Saudi" fighters. All discover that they are Scandic made, but the Egyptians and Syrians (as well as Germans in the Rashidi army) manage to capture SU pilots who bailed out of a couple of SU planes shot down luckily in the fight over Ha'il. It is discovered that they are Scandic and this information is passed on to their respective governments.

OPEC embargo, Arab League embargo, no Suez Canal for SU (pretty much blocking off trade with Asia, Indonesia, etc.), orders to block any aid coming from the SU, spit in any scandinavian's food that visits Egypt, etc.

everyone else is disrupted
Does that mean 'everyone else' as in the rest of the attack force or 'everyone else' as in the entire coalition's forces?

OOC: I kinda need to know if the DPRSA and the UIR will vote to leave the FAS or not before I move forward. I was thinking that the UIR will, but it'll be a close competition for the DPRSA. Although, having about 250 million less people is better for my economy...

The Scandic pilots captured have been taken to select locations in Syria, although this is not widely known. Syria joins in the Egyptian boycotts, and increases naval patrols incase of a naval attack. All Syrians in the Scandic Union have been contacted by embassy officials, with a recommendation to leave the country or report to the embassy in Stockholm.

EDIT-Also, next turn, 500 each of V-1 and V-2s will come into play, along with 3 Light infantry div, a Mech Infantry div, and a mountain brigade, just for planning purposes. They will march straight on Riyadh.

IC: British forces begin plans for a withdrawal, especially with revelations concerning potential SU involvement. In the meantime Britain continues the blockade of the Gulf (solely for the protection of Commonwealt Kuwait and Oman, of course!) and maintains a semi-agressive stance with the UIR. Though any ships dispatched will likely get through as Britain does not want to cause an international incident. General Montgomery orders his forces to halt where they are and await further orders from London once the new situation is understood, they will react to being fired upon but are unsure of what to make of any troops at this time.

With public opinion in Australasia demanding that the nation pull out of such a confused conflict, where the side one is fighting for can be reversed at a moment's notice, the government is forced to take action.

Australian commitment to the Indian theatre is reduced to 10 subs and 5 destroyers who will assist in protecting Commonwealth Kuwait and Oman. All aircraft and other naval vessels are to return home. Menzies schedules public appearances with returning troops, emphasizing the pride that they have brought their nation through their proud service.

Apologies are made to all Commonwealth members for the withdrawal of Australian forces and any inconvenience this may cause. However, it would not be right to speak against the will of the people in a democracy.

In addition, Australia does not recognize the new Indian government and will wait to do so until consulting with its allies.

South Africa announces that the withdrawl of its troops from the FAS will take place as soon as is practical, and issues no formal recognition of Ayub Khan's government.

OPEC embargo, Arab League embargo, no Suez Canal for SU (pretty much blocking off trade with Asia, Indonesia, etc.), orders to block any aid coming from the SU, spit in any scandinavian's food that visits Egypt, etc.

ooc: OPEC doesn't exist.
ic:
FNS will gladly take up the slack and share its oil with the Scandic Union, especially since the completion of a nuclear plant will be finished in Peru at the end of the year.

ooc: Can someone fill me in why Egypt and Syria are attacking Riyadh? I missed that part...

the US will also sell oil to the SU, as probably will Russia as well (ooc after all, nothing wrong with Scandic currency)

ooc
incidently, the Scandic Union can just as easily use the Panama Canal and cross the Pacific.. the distances aren't that much more

Outclassing two Hawker Hunters with Expert Pilots? What are these guys flying?

If you check the front page of themilitary thread you'll note that the Scandic Voodoo F101A has a combat rating of 11 while the closest enemy fighter, the Hawker Hunter is an 8 and the TA183D is a 6. F101A has a strike rating of 2 and the TU14 has a 6 (but air combat 5). Essentially, though your pilots helped, you were simply outclassed by the quicker, more modern F101A. Once the Rashidis lost out I grounded your fighters to save them and unfortunately the TU14 got through, largely due to a lack of air cover (from either FLAK or else missile weapons).

Does that mean 'everyone else' as in the rest of the attack force or 'everyone else' as in the entire coalition's forces?

Sorry I should have clarified, it should state that everyone in the defending and attacking forces in disrupted. This was a bloody fight, with every last reserve being thrown in an some appaling dice rolls meaning that everyone that could be disrupted (in this case, every participant) was. There was no real tactical result except a stand off and under teh rules i've written a standoff is pretty bloody, though there's never more than a 20% chance of achieving one in any circumstances.

OOC: I kinda need to know if the DPRSA and the UIR will vote to leave the FAS or not before I move forward. I was thinking that the UIR will, but it'll be a close competition for the DPRSA. Although, having about 250 million less people is better for my economy...

The DPRSA is celebrating the recent victory and the fall of the dictatorship and many favour that they return to the federation (OOC: Economy plays a good factor) under the condition of course that the rebel leaders be released and agendas are made and carried out for the re-stablishment of a democratic constitution, not to mention the holding of state and parlamentary elections. UN and SCT help is welcomed.

However the Baluch areas are requesting for more autonomy within the federation, but hinted that they can be palacated by increased social spending in their area.

Also the raised mechanised divisions are asking if they could be integrated into the FAS military?

OOC: From this point I believe I can relinquish my control over the Rebels, I think the communist party is going to be a little bit more popular in incoming elections, don't you think?
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OOC: I suggest making a new thread for the Saudi War and that all diplomatic messages be resumed in the FAS thread.

The DPRSA is celebrating the recent victory and the fall of the dictatorship and many favour that they return to the federation (OOC: Economy plays a good factor) under the condition of course that the rebel leaders be released and agendas are made and carried out for the re-stablishment of a democratic constitution, not to mention the holding of state and parlamentary elections. UN and SCT help is welcomed.

However the Baluch areas are requesting for more autonomy within the federation, but hinted that they can be palacated by increased social spending in their area.

Also the raised mechanised divisions are asking if they could be integrated into the FAS military?

OOC: From this point I believe I can relinquish my control over the Rebels, I think the communist party is going to be a little bit more popular in incoming elections, don't you think?
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OOC: I suggest making a new thread for the Saudi War and that all diplomatic messages be resumed in the FAS thread.


OOC: Ho ho ho, they think they're gonna get democracy, do they? Poor, poor they...

Also, LR, I need a damage report. If I am to edit my economic builds to represent the FAS minus most of Iran and most of Afghanistan, I need to see what's left. Come to think of it, there weren't alot of big battles around cities in the DPRSA and the FAS (the UIR kinda is in a bad position, in my opinion, though), so I should have most of my production points.

And another thing...

My plan for giving the UIR land means I keep the Western border area with Iraq, due to the vast amounts of Oil in that region.

Come to think of it, we need to have a peace conference of some kind...

The US ignores the FAS statement and continues pressure in the UN. In addition, a production run is ordered for chemical warfare suits and masks to be exported to nations that border India. (points will be spent next year)

Which nations, exactly?

Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, Burma, China, Turkenmistan, Kurdistan, Turkey, etc?

Which nations, exactly?

Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, Burma, China, Turkenmistan, Kurdistan, Turkey, etc?

yes to Nepal, Central Asian Republic, Turkey, Kashgaria, but Tibet is a very unlikely target and China is capable of producing its own gear.

[QUOTE=The Lightning Star]OOC: Ho ho ho, they think they're gonna get democracy, do they? Poor, poor they...

OOC: well if they don't then I suppose I will have to continue the revolution until they do, even if many become martyrs to the cause, expect protests, riots, strikes to happen if demands are not met, eventually leading to uprisings, millitants, freedom fighters and guirella warefare.

Where there were merciless tyrants there was always a group of people would not bow down to their evil selfish rule; they would overthrow them or pave the way even if a little for those who would come after them.

After all the way things turned out; the semi-minimal loss of life during the uprising, the negotiated peaceful surrender, the publicised goals of the rebellion and cooperation with the west and SCT in hopes of achieving, no policy of scorched earth was followed whatsoever, no acts of terrorisim or attrocities, the agreement to confidently face trial and risking their own lives in hopes of acheiving their democratic goals without destroying their beloved country and shedding the blood of fellow countrymen, the fact that even after the surrender marchsand rallies were made which were a factor used by Ayub Khan to overthrow Yahya Khan and extending the offer of reconcilliation after the conflict.

With all these in mind, I would say the avarage FAS citizen would see the DPRSA as more than a socialist attempted coup and would see it as perhaps the re-surection of the Jinnah era, as Suhrawardy the protege' of the beloved president, and that there would be much support for them than before.

Of course this is just my opinion and is subject to ruling...

IC: The DPRSA supprters await the release of their great leaders...

OOC: There are two reasons we're killing the House of Sa'ud. They're psychopaths and they supported the rebels of the FAS who was allied to Britain who was allied to Germany.

IC: The Imperial Government begins to make very loud noises to the Scandics and begins to threaten embargoes. Also, in lieu of ceasefire in the ex-FAS, the Anastasia and its battlegroup return to Hamburg, as do the Mechanized Infantry and Artillery, keeping only the two paratrooper Brigades on the Omani border.

OOC: well if they don't then I suppose I will have to continue the revolution until they do, even if many become martyrs to the cause, expect protests, riots, strikes to happen if demands are not met, eventually leading to uprisings, millitants, freedom fighters and guirella warefare.

Where there were merciless tyrants there was always a group of people would not bow down to their evil selfish rule; they would overthrow them or pave the way even if a little for those who would come after them.

After all the way things turned out; the semi-minimal loss of life during the uprising, the negotiated peaceful surrender, the publicised goals of the rebellion and cooperation with the west and SCT in hopes of achieving, no policy of scorched earth was followed whatsoever, no acts of terrorisim or attrocities, the agreement to confidently face trial and risking their own lives in hopes of acheiving their democratic goals without destroying their beloved country and shedding the blood of fellow countrymen, the fact that even after the surrender marchsand rallies were made which were a factor used by Ayub Khan to overthrow Yahya Khan and extending the offer of reconcilliation after the conflict.

With all these in mind, I would say the avarage FAS citizen would see the DPRSA as more than a socialist attempted coup and would see it as perhaps the re-surection of the Jinnah era, as Suhrawardy the protege' of the beloved president, and that there would be much support for them than before.

Of course this is just my opinion and is subject to ruling...

IC: The DPRSA supprters await the release of their great leaders...

OOC: In this reality, Jinnah's #2 man wasn't Suhrawardy. He pretty much hated all communists.

OOC: In this reality, Jinnah's #2 man wasn't Suhrawardy. He pretty much hated all communists.

OOC:Ah...

But still he does look like a more popular candidate to me than Ayub, who played up to Yahya and stabbed him in the back...


IC: The supporters of the Former DPRSA request from the SCT and the British forces to release their leaders which are being held under their custody as determined by the peace agreement back to their respective republics.

The disbanded millita groups and mechanised divisions announced that they are going to hold a parade in Madras to celebrate the victory, a representative from the president's government is asked to come

IC: The supporters of the Former DPRSA request from the SCT and the British forces to release their leaders which are being held under their custody as determined by the peace agreement back to their respective republics.

Britain notes that all British forces are currently being redeployed out of the area (like scalded cats) and that all British held PoWs were transferred to South African power prior to the redeployment. It is they who you should ask (though they too may have moved out since then).

OOC:Ah...

But still he does look like a more popular candidate to me than Ayub, who played up to Yahya and stabbed him in the back...


IC: The supporters of the Former DPRSA request from the SCT and the British forces to release their leaders which are being held under their custody as determined by the peace agreement back to their respective republics.

The disbanded millita groups and mechanised divisions announced that they are going to hold a parade in Madras to celebrate the victory, a representative from the president's government is asked to come

OOC: Ayub is actually quite popular. He was always against Yahya Khan, and was even exiled for it. He fought valiantly on the Western Front, and he fiercly objected to the use of chemical weapons on Kabul. On the plus side, he had the chance to join either the DPRSA or UIR and lead them to victory, but decided to stay by his country. That makes him a very popular person in India.

Britain notes that all British forces are currently being redeployed out of the area (like scalded cats) and that all British held PoWs were transferred to South African power prior to the redeployment. It is they who you should ask (though they too may have moved out since then).

On that note, South Africa announces the redeployment of its troops out of the FAS, and will begin handing over prisoners to the appropriate authorities.

The US begins sending food aid to refugees displaced by the fighting during the FAS War. (ooc 1 point worth). Secretly, the CIA also funnels money to the Afghanis and Persians -- 1 point each, and money to Hindu pro democracy groups -- 2 points worth)

The US continues its efforts to eliminate the House of Saud. (ooc 1 point worth)

The US begins sending food aid to refugees displaced by the fighting during the FAS War. (ooc 1 point worth). Secretly, the CIA also funnels money to the Afghanis and Persians -- 1 point each, and money to Hindu pro democracy groups -- 2 points worth)

The US continues its efforts to eliminate the House of Saud. (ooc 1 point worth)

OOC: Kinda pointless if I just had elections, eh?

Also, isn't there some international law I could use against you if you tried to pull this off? After all, when I tried to fund democratic nationalists in Colombia, everyone was like "OMFG STFU n00b!"

4 points are being secretly sent to Saudi Arabia while a further 5 are being used secretly to build missiles units in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabian units are being equipped with modern Scandinavian SAM's while the new SA airforce is being equipped with SU AA missiles, something the Egyptians and Syrians both lack.

OOC: The Saudi military should stand like this for the new year(no idea about deployments)

4 horse cavalry, 1 garrison, 2 Infantry Corps, 5 light infantry, 2 pilots, 2 MiG 19, assassins(?)

Subtracted out 4 Light infantry, don't think they suffered any other losses.

The SU is still at just 2 Voodoo F101's, 1 Tu14 and 1 mech division.

Would I be alowed to control the SA military while this war is going on, since its an NPC and it involves me heavily?

OOC: Kinda pointless if I just had elections, eh?

Also, isn't there some international law I could use against you if you tried to pull this off? After all, when I tried to fund democratic nationalists in Colombia, everyone was like "OMFG STFU n00b!"

ooc
only if Greater Ribenia says you find out about it, and then, good luck, as the US will simply deny it. After all, its being handled covertly, and your border is much larger and much easier to infiltrate then the Colombian situation was.

4 points are being secretly sent to Saudi Arabia while a further 5 are being used secretly to build missiles units in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabian units are being equipped with modern Scandinavian SAM's while the new SA airforce is being equipped with SU AA missiles, something the Egyptians and Syrians both lack.

OOC: The Saudi military should stand like this for the new year(no idea about deployments)

4 horse cavalry, 1 garrison, 2 Infantry Corps, 5 light infantry, 2 pilots, 2 MiG 19, assassins(?)

Subtracted out 4 Light infantry, don't think they suffered any other losses.

The SU is still at just 2 Voodoo F101's, 1 Tu14 and 1 mech division.

Would I be alowed to control the SA military while this war is going on, since its an NPC and it involves me heavily?

ooc
would seem reasonable to me, but its up to Lesser Ribenia. The CIA, by the way, is trying to subvert the Saudi officer corps.

ooc
would seem reasonable to me, but its up to Lesser Ribenia. The CIA, by the way, is trying to subvert the Saudi officer corps.

OOC: Ya, I've noticed, I'm hoping the presence of Scandic soldiers and all the Scandic help will help keep the officers and men loyal, especially if they see they can win.
On that note a Tu16 Badger heavy bomber is going to be sent in if they don't pull out in three weeks.

OOC: I'm curious, how late in the year can I do National Effort?

BTW, 5 Garrisons are being activated into 10 infantry corps. They will be ready by June.

OOC: Ayub is actually quite popular. He was always against Yahya Khan, and was even exiled for it. He fought valiantly on the Western Front, and he fiercly objected to the use of chemical weapons on Kabul. On the plus side, he had the chance to join either the DPRSA or UIR and lead them to victory, but decided to stay by his country. That makes him a very popular person in India.

OOC:Well I hadn't made the DPRSA a totally seperatist group as the UIR was (You can tell that from my goals), so you could say that Suhrawardy and Co. are also equally popular considering they stood up more openly and took up arms against Yahya.

They steered a less destructive path during the conflict. Although clearly not millitarically skillful they had an insight to the future. Monty can be quoted to saying that they were fair opponents.

OOC:Well I hadn't made the DPRSA a totally seperatist group as the UIR was (You can tell that from my goals), so you could say that Suhrawardy and Co. are also equally popular considering they stood up more openly and took up arms against Yahya.

They steered a less destructive path during the conflict. Although clearly not millitarically skillful they had an insight to the future. Monty can be quoted to saying that they were fair opponents.

OOC:

They also killed tens of thousands of Indians, innocent and other wise. They also caused half of the country to be occupied for foreigners. They also caused the FAS to become weak and unstable in the eyes of the world. Yes, the Socialists aren't COMPLETELY unpopular, but they deffinetly aren't popular enough to take India by storm in the elections.

OOC: I kinda need to know if the DPRSA and the UIR will vote to leave the FAS or not before I move forward. I was thinking that the UIR will, but it'll be a close competition for the DPRSA. Although, having about 250 million less people is better for my economy...

Today the people can vote in the UIR controlled territories. Today, history can be made when the people decide if they rejoin the Federated Asian States or if they go for independence. The majority will probably vote for independance as the FAS is very unpopular after the Gas Attacks near Kabul. All votes will be counted in three days... (ooc. I'll post the results tonight)

According to Exit-Polls 87% has voted for independence. The actual percentage may change bit it is pretty certain the the UIR controlled territories want to become independant. The leaders have assured the world that this referendum was free and fair and they ask the world to accept the independance of the UIR.

The US continues its efforts to eliminate the House of Saud. (ooc 1 point worth)

I think there's sufficient support for me to start rolling for a mutiny soon. I'll start when I psot the final results for 1951 (Nov-Dec).

Also, isn't there some international law I could use against you if you tried to pull this off? After all, when I tried to fund democratic nationalists in Colombia, everyone was like "OMFG STFU n00b!"

I'll give you a roll for it, but the borders are massive and your military will still be pretty shaken up over the coup, but we shall see what happens.

The nov-dec report wil follow shortly...

November-December

Anti-Saudi Turn.

The Syrians move into Ha'il to improve it's defences, though the Egyptians are unable to regroup as they are in contact with the enemy and without a HQ unit. The defenders consist of Egyptian (disordered) Artillery, 3 mech div, 2 inf corps and Syrian: 1 Armored Division, 1 Mountain Brigade, also present is a unit of Saab 29s and pilot, along with the Egyptian Hawker Hunters.

Saudi Turn:

The Saudis manage to scrape together enough troops to take advantage of the Egyptian army disordered in Ha'il. The following units attack:

4 horse cavalry
3 light infantry
SU mech unit

Prior to this the SU and Saudi Airforce (Saab 29, Voodoo F101, Tu14 and 2 Mig 29s) strafe the defences in an attempt to destroy or disorder the enemy. The 2 Egyptian Hawker Hunters and Syrian Saab 29s make a token showing but pull out so as not to be overwhelmed by the attackers, causing one mig and pilot to be killed but losing a Hawker Hunter and pilot in the process. The attackers manage to land several attack runs on target and destroy an Egyptian mechanised division and an infantry corps.

The main attack comes in against the distracted defenders. The end result is that the Egyptians lose their artillery and an infantry corps. The Syrians fare better with their armoured corps being disordered. The attackers suffer teh following losses: SU mech div disordered, 2 cavalry destroyed and a light infantry destroyed. One remaining cavalry units are disordered. It appears that the attacking cavalry were useless against the enemy tanks and that the light infantry divisions were ill equipped for the same job. Both sides are exhausted after a bitter two months of fighting and are forced to pull back to their original positions. However a bloodbath has ensured that neither side has a distinct advantage, though the Saudis have taken down a fair number of the defenders and seem set to atatck again next turn.

The remainding Saudi 2 light infantry, 1 garrison and 2 Infantry Corps remain as garrisons at Riydah and other key locations.

The town of Ha'il is nothing but ruins and any production centres there are destroyed.

Saudi Arabia-1952
Population: 2 million
Tech level: 4
Income (Wartime): Riyadh 1, 5 shipping, 3 oil points= 15 points
Spending: Level 4 social spending .75, 2 horse cavalry, 1 garrison 2, Infantry Corps, 4 light infantry, 1 pilots, 1 MiG 19-2.75

Buy-
upgrade 2 horse to mech divisions-6 points
1 Saab Lansen-2 points
average pilot-2 points

1.5 left

OOC:

[QUOTE]They also killed tens of thousands of Indians, innocent and other wise.

That is to be expected in a civil war or any conflict on Both sides, except the DPRSA were fighting for a more noble goal. Anyways we cannot call this conflict a real conflict as there were no major battles and only minor skirmishes.

They also caused half of the country to be occupied for foreigners.

Actually the DPRSA did not bring in any foriegn troops whatsoever, last time I checked the British, Koreyans, USAE, South African and Australian forces were brought in by the government of Yahya Khan against the DPRSA and the UIR.

They also caused the FAS to become weak and unstable in the eyes of the world.

I belive that happend when people got "pissed off at the lack of democracy in India" and took up arms against the dictator. I don't think anyone in the FAS can blame the DPRSA for the uprising against the dictator Yahya Khan, blaming them will be like blaming Ayub Khan for taking actions against Yahya.


Yes, the Socialists aren't COMPLETELY unpopular, but they deffinetly aren't popular enough to take India by storm in the elections.

But I thought they were popular enough to lead over half of India in an uprising against a dictatorship?

The republics formerly under the DPRSA resends its requests to the SCT and South African forces for the release of their respective leaders back to their republics as the need for them to stand trial for charges of desertion against Yahya Khan's government has gone with the termination of Yahya Khan's government by the combined efforts of Ayub Khan and the DPRSA movement.

The republics formerly under the DPRSA resends its requests to the SCT and South African forces for the release of their respective leaders back to their republics as the need for them to stand trial for charges of desertion against Yahya Khan's government has gone with the termination of Yahya Khan's government by the combined efforts of Ayub Khan and the DPRSA movement.

HRH Prince Wu of Korea consents to letting the prisoners under their custody go. But they will have to see about the USEA and South Africans.

Nyugen Nha Tranh mets with the prime minister and top generals in a regular security briefing and it is agreed to comply with former DRPSA requests.

Prisoners of war being held in USEA custody are released back to their native republics but covert suveliance is kept upon high ranking members for various purposes.

The South African government releases prisoners in its custody to the relevant authorities, and makes final preparations to withdraw its forces from the FAS. Troops will leave as soon as the prisoners are handed over.

Despite their lack of regards to the previous asking in the UN, we ask once again for Saudi forces to temporarly halt all attacks and attend a peace conference. Also, due to Scandinavian threats, United Republican defenses (back home) are put on high alert. Garrison units across the republics are put on high alert, especially over the next month or two. Egyptian units in Saudi Arabia, in regards to the cease-fire calls, will be moved to Jordan (King Hussein should have taken power by now and he should let me in. If not, I'll head into Palestine).

The South African government releases prisoners in its custody to the relevant authorities, and makes final preparations to withdraw its forces from the FAS. Troops will leave as soon as the prisoners are handed over.

Korea withdraws its bomber air unit from the area, seeing as how it may not be needed anymore (and seeing as how Korea's Congress is beginning to murmur). The C47 is maintained, along with the parachute battalion and all other forces.

The remaining Paratrooper Battalions and all other German Units return to Germany.

the CIA continues its efforts in Saudi Arabia

OOC: How long will it take for Scandic or Saudi intelligence to hear of this?

OOC: or Syrian?

the CIA continues its efforts in Saudi Arabia

the US government decides to switch the CIA mission from toppling the Saudi government to simple intelligence gathering at the moment.

Oman and Western Arabia are offered substantial military assistance for 1953 (US will pay maintenance for their military, provide points to increase size of forces if desired and new aircraft and naval craft)

In exchange, the US is seeking basing rights for the 5th Fleet at Muscat and an air base.

OOC: How long will it take for Scandic or Saudi intelligence to hear of this?

With the changing of US procedures to simple intel gathering missions, this will be almost impossible. The US CIA is one of the most efficient and best trained intel agencies in the RP at the moment, the SU isn't far behind but gathering operations are pretty difficult to detect.

I hope to get the first turn of 52 up shortly, after I game it out. I was awaiting news of whether the peace talks were before or after this turn.

At last the long awaited 1952 Jan-Feb turn. My apologies for the vast delay.

Anti-Saudi Turn.

One new Rashidi corps is moved into Ha'il (they have been training under German supervision in the North), the Egyptians and Syrians are unable to reorganise due to proximity to the enemy but hold their position hoping for peace talks to intervene. They are unwilling to fall back and lose their only real gains in Arabia.

The defenders consist of Egyptian (disordered) 2 mech div, and Syrian: 1 Armored Division, 1 Mountain Brigade, all disordered also present is a unit of Saab 29s and pilot, along with the Egyptian Hawker Hunter and pilot.

Saudi Turn:

The combined airforce puts in another showing above Ha'il, One each of teh following attempting to destroy troops on the ground: Saab 29, Voodoo F101, Tu14 and Mig 29. The Egyptians and Syrians are forced to commit every plane taht can fly to the air to attempt to stop the assault. However they are vastly outnumbered and lose all aircraft (but no pilots) in return for downing the Tu14, their prime target. The remaining Saudi and allied aircraft press on and manage to take out another Egyptian mechanised infantry unit.

The Saudis attack once more, being unable to upgrade their cavalry to mech divs as ordered due to wanting to take advantage of the favourable situation.
The following units are committed:

2 horse cavalry (only one commited as one is disordered)
2 light infantry
SU mech unit (not committed as it is disordered)

Th eroads of Ha'il once more are slick with blood as both sides battle it out in teh hope of a decisive victory. The attackers are up against well dug in troops who hav ebeen through it all before. Though the attackers are in better shape.

The battle results in:

Saudi:
1 horse cav - destroyed
2 light infantry -1 disordered

Anti-Saudi:
1 Egyptian mech div - destroyed
1 Syrian Armored Division - disordered
1 Syrian Mountain Brigade - disordered

The Syrians barely hold onto the city and plead for reinforcements.

The commanders on both sides see that their troops are spent and with no reinforcements available for a few months agree to hold cease fire talks.

What about the Saudi Divisions in the UIR I send back?

What about the Saudi Divisions in the UIR I send back?

Dude, Warta, you're finally here :D

Really, though, we need to finish up the borders of our two countries. I gave you independence, but only for the Republics that voted to seceed from the FAS (look here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10670556&postcount=249) for more details).

The map is on the fritz, though, so if it doesn't work, there's always here:

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/4184/negotiations4li.png

The mech div is at this point (jan-feb) still making it's way across the desert towards Ha'il. It'd be in a position to attack next turn except that the peace talks stopped that from happening.

Dude, Warta, you're finally here :D

Really, though, we need to finish up the borders of our two countries. I gave you independence, but only for the Republics that voted to seceed from the FAS (look here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10670556&postcount=249) for more details).

The map is on the fritz, though, so if it doesn't work, there's always here:

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/4184/negotiations4li.png

I believe the UIR can agree to that. Baluchistan (save Karachi and the Indus Estuary) is pretty worthless and a vipers nest with all kinds of tribes. I'm amazed you want to keep that ;)

And the Light Green part can easily get cut off if we fight another war (let's hope that won't happen!)

And the control of the Oil Fields is most welcome for the build up!

OOC: I had sent a Tu16 last turn to.:p Thanks for gaming out the war LR.

Also, UIR, check my build when I put it up, I've got some points for you, not sure how much just yet.

Also, UIR, check my build when I put it up, I've got some points for you, not sure how much just yet.

Thanks, any help is welcome!

At last the long awaited 1952 Jan-Feb turn. My apologies for the vast delay.

Anti-Saudi Turn.

One new Rashidi corps is moved into Ha'il (they have been training under German supervision in the North), the Egyptians and Syrians are unable to reorganise due to proximity to the enemy but hold their position hoping for peace talks to intervene. They are unwilling to fall back and lose their only real gains in Arabia.

The defenders consist of Egyptian (disordered) 2 mech div, and Syrian: 1 Armored Division, 1 Mountain Brigade, all disordered also present is a unit of Saab 29s and pilot, along with the Egyptian Hawker Hunter and pilot.


The Egyptian army isn't even in the country. I ordered them to withdraw after last turn.

Was this by TG? If so it may have been deleted by NS before I had chance to read it, my inbox recently got maxed out to 15 TGs and NS deletes excess TGs after that.

I haven't noticed anything in this thread, if I have missed it then I apologise greatly. All I knew was that a ceasefire was being called for.

Besides you'd have fared better staying in the city, I have disordered units move at half pace (under GBs system I don't believe they could move at all) and so the Saudis would have caught you in the open desert without air support (hard to provide in desert) unless it was provided from mainland Egypt. You would have been massacred by the Saudis, at least now you still have some forces and the diplomatic bonus of saying that the Saudis are destroying their own cities.

Oh well, never mind the retreat. But next turn, Egyptian forces should be gone.

Edit: Forget the retreat. Egyptian forces can stay in Ha'il and 2 Dassault III's can be sent in to replace the Hawkers (both have elite pilots). The Hawker Hunter in Egypt can stop patrolling. So what do I still have as part of the convoy?

I believe the UIR can agree to that. Baluchistan (save Karachi and the Indus Estuary) is pretty worthless and a vipers nest with all kinds of tribes. I'm amazed you want to keep that ;)

And the Light Green part can easily get cut off if we fight another war (let's hope that won't happen!)

And the control of the Oil Fields is most welcome for the build up!

Keeping the Baluch areas keeps the Baluch happy. When the Baluch are happy, everyone is happy.

LR: You did get my TG about the points right?

LR: You did get my TG about the points right?

Yep, it'll go into place soon, as January comes around (tuesday), I had to wait until the points were available ie. Jan so that they could be spent.

The Hawker Hunter in Egypt can stop patrolling. So what do I still have as part of the convoy?

Unfortunately all Egyptian ground forces in Ha'il have been destroyed, but the remaining survivors will begin to trudge back to Egypt so as to not be captured or whatever.

A cease-fire has been signed by the SU, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Syria. All Egyptian (and I think Syrian, you'll have to ask him) forces are ordered to withdraw. Reinforcements are cancelled.

All units are headed for the Jordanian border, and several will be demoblized, at least for the time being.

The last of the USEA forces are ordered to withdraw from the area and will be gone by the end of April.