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The End of the Kravanian Wars. (ATTN-McKagan/Willink/TLA)

Kravania
09-03-2006, 03:13
Central Kravania

As soon as midday struck, people in the towns in the mountains that overlooked the Kravanian capital, Kravania City, were blinded by a sudden white flash.

A huge organge fireball erupted into the shape of that all too familiar mushroom cloud.

Kravania City had been under the control of rebels who had defected from the Kravanian Armed Forces for three months. The Rebel leader, Colonel Adreas Bachman, hoped his revolt in Kravania City would overthrow the Fascist regime and President for Life Atne Pavelic's iron grip on Kravania.

However, like the city of Varna, which also staged a revolt against the dictator, Kravania City was wiped out with a strike by a nuclear tipped ICBM, fired on the orders of Pavelic himself, who now made it clear that he would use nuclear weapons to destroy any city in his nation that questioned his authority and turned against his government.

The Kravanian Anti-Fascist Uprising was now over and Colonel Andres Bachamn now dead, along with 12 million Kravanian people in what was once Kravania City.

58 million Kravanian's were also killed in an attack by McKagan of 1000 nuclear tipped ICBMs. However, the major cities were spared, as the McKagan ICBMs struck military bases, towns, rural areas and industrial districts.

With his goverment secure and his dictatorship in total control of Kravania, Pavelic decided that the peace talks he started with Willink, McKagan and the Lone Alliance, which he initiated after the McKagan ICBM strike, should come to their conclusion.
Corinthia Alpha
09-03-2006, 03:42
Corinthia Alpha commends Kravania for thir desire for peace. We offer to hold peace talks on our soil. We are neutral and only wish to see a cessation of hostilities. Unfortunately the Parthian Wars are still raging furiously. We hope that Kravania will attempt to negotiate with Parthia/Willink/Spizania.


Thank you for your co-operation,

Corinthia Alpha High Council
Kravania
09-03-2006, 04:13
bump
McKagan
09-03-2006, 04:27
Official Message from the Office of the President of the Democratic Imperium of McKagan

Finally, after such long period of war and hostilities, has Kravania came to the conclusion that attacking with nuclear weapons at the slightest whim of someone being against it isn't the best course of action.

I am forever sorry for being the first McKagan President since our first to use nuclear weapons, but still pleased that most major cities were spared from our massive, forced counter attack.

McKagan hereby drops its Declaration of War against Kravania. However, due to strict McKagan doctrine, I cannot leave this nation to take part in a peace conference with a state that we were formerlly at war with. If a conference to establish better relations between Kravania and McKagan is to take place then it will indeed need to be in McKagan. If Atne Pavelic really wants peace, however, this will be no challenge.

Signed,
Robyn Cavalt, President of the Democratic Imperium of McKagan
Kravania
09-03-2006, 04:41
(OOC)

McKagan:

Please, I mean come on, I'm not that stupid!

Pavelic travel to your nation in person, yeah I'm sure you would have a wonderful reception party for him at the airport.

You would at best arrest him or I would suspect, kill him.

At most you would get my Dep. Foreign Minister visiting your nation.
McKagan
09-03-2006, 05:31
(OOC)

McKagan:

Please, I mean come on, I'm not that stupid!

Pavelic travel to your nation in person, yeah I'm sure you would have a wonderful reception party for him at the airport.

You would at best arrest him or I would suspect, kill him.

At most you would get my Dep. Foreign Minister visiting your nation.

[OOC: Dammit. :p You HAVE gotten smarter since the Saharistan war. If you want to do that, then sure. Are you still going to disarm?]
Kravania
09-03-2006, 05:39
(OOC)

McKagan:

Even if you were not going to do anything against Pavelic, He is on his way for a state visit to Zaire in Africa at the mo.

Zaire is a small, poor nation, just out of a civil war.

Kravania is using it's wealth to develop the country and they are now my allies.

A good strategy, support the newbies, they become your allies and grow into big powers, in the future I'll have a good deal of allies, before I take any vengeful actions against you and the TLA.
Kravania
09-03-2006, 05:51
(OOC)

Officially in public, Kravania shall do away with nuclear and bio weapons, but keep the chemical ones, like I said in the post calling for a ceasefire.

However, there will be an illegal underground secret WMD programme for nukes and bio weapons.

You saw my post in the Leafy civil war thread, where Pavelic sends a secret letter to the reformist leader pledging support in return for our nukes being hidden in Leafy.

Other nations shall also be used to store our illegal WMDs.
McKagan
09-03-2006, 05:57
[OOC: If Leaf's reformists lose the war, and they will, then you'll lose that means. That said, I could RP some Special Forces roaming around with the objective of eliminating the Leafanistani Nuclear Force.]
McKagan
09-03-2006, 06:00
A good strategy, support the newbies, they become your allies and grow into big powers, in the future I'll have a good deal of allies, before I take any vengeful actions against you and the TLA.

[OOC: Let it be known - the next time you come out and attack McKagan, I WILL colonize Kravania. This time i've not got any support as alot of my allies are OOCly busy, but I think I held you pretty good with nearly no help from the SWC. Pick your RP's wisely or you'll end up giving me another Saharistan. Would you like to have Atne Pavelic and Cavalt form some sort of secretive, mutual friendship that keeps everyone thinking we're at war on the outside but in reality McKagan is turning Kravania into another power to possibly aid in future wars?]
Willink
09-03-2006, 06:06
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Official Response Of Willink Government

While we agree with your want for peace, we must urge you that the next time you attempt to invade a nation based on its political choices, we WILL turn your country into either a glass plate or a colony. You must take reign of the remaining radicals in your nation before i travel to Mckagan, but until then Willink Ambassador to Mckagan Michael Kruterz will act in my place.

Justin Scharfe
Kravania
09-03-2006, 06:08
(OOC)

Willink:

?????

Do you want to talk peace with Pavelic or not?
Willink
09-03-2006, 06:11
(OOC)

Willink:

?????

Do you want to talk peace with Pavelic or not?

OOC-Yes, but i accidently hit the Submit button before i was done typing.
Kravania
09-03-2006, 06:15
(OOC)

Willink:

Pavelic nuked the last rebel held city.

anti-fascists have been wiped out in Kravania and the rest of my people are now scared to rebel, for they would be nuked too.

McKagan:

I suppose, but you always seem to be my IC enemy, or a two-faced ally, like with Kaufman and Tanakis, you secretly support them, but when they are in trouble, you don't help them but just offer them exile.

Not much to offer.

Kravania could do a REAL friendship with your nation, be it open or secret.

But why not open, fuck your nation's opinion polls, you don't RP election's in your nation in II anyways.

Who knows, your prez. is a single female, right?

Pavelic and Cavalt in a secret love affair?

Could be good if RPed right.
Kravania
09-03-2006, 06:19
(OOC)

McKagan, if you wanted to be friends with Pavelic, I'd suggest to disband the CARE group you lead.
McKagan
09-03-2006, 06:23
Who knows, your prez. is a single female, right?

Pavelic and Cavalt in a secret love affair?

Could be good if RPed right.

[OOC: I've got issues with jumping out and supporting you openly, I just do. I've got issues with giving you much military support at all. Pavelic and Cavalt in a love affair would be ODD, but I won't rule it out as a future option. That said, if we don't get together for any good relations and it comes to war again - I've got 'this CARE organization I head' to back me up. :) ]
Kravania
16-03-2006, 04:57
Official Communique of the Government of the Fascist Republic of Kravania

The Fascist Republic of Kravania has decided to cease ALL efforts at establishing a dialogue with those nations which were our enemies prior to the end of the state of combat that existed between Kravania and the enemy nations of McKagan, Willink and the Lone Alliance.

Kravania will not stand for McKagan's acts of genocide, war crimes and senseless mass murder against the people of Leafanistan and the legitimate government of Leafanistan, under the leadership of the Confederate Socialist Reform Party.

Kravania is supportive of Leafanistan's government and will oppose McKagan and Willink efforts to restore to power, the genocidal lunatic, High Father.

Kravania can NEVER be at peace with McKagan, our people still suffer from the nuclear genocide that McKagan brought upon us.

Willink and McKagan are both led by dangerous gangster-mafia regimes, which need to be removed from power without fail.

As of today, Kravania shall resume the state of war between our nation and the enemies of MgKagan, Willink and the Lone Alliance.

There will never be peace between our nations and Kravania shall not rest until these three evil nations are wiped off the face of this planet.

Long Live Kravania!

Long Live the Fascist State!

Long Live Atne Pavelic!
McKagan
16-03-2006, 05:01
[OOC: You and your military that's lost nearly 100 years worth of development time due to a massive nuclear attack pose no threat to anyone. Futhermore, I have no time to go through this repetitive thing over and over again. Talk to Leaf about that RP. If he lets you in then we'll go with it. Otherwise I don't have time to go through the same thing again.]
Kravania
16-03-2006, 05:06
(OOC)

I am hoping to provoke you into an invasion, Kravania would fight you guerrilla style, at close combat, not with huuge fleets of jet fighters etc...

My aim is to tie your nation down into a Vietnam style war, causing your nation to weaken.

But I have come to the conclusion that I can NEVER be your IC friend or ally.

Your stubborness and your nation's ever zealous interventionism would never go along with anything I do.
The Lone Alliance
16-03-2006, 08:36
OOC: Excellent, Kravania, Your nation is mine.

IC:
You have made your final mistake.

Announcement from the Lone Alliance
All citizens of Kravania. We suggest you gather your belongings and flee your nation before war is upon it. Your government must be toppled and we have no choice but to use force.
Jagada
16-03-2006, 09:23
[OOC: Hmmm...considering the rather hostile responses. I assume it would be out of the question to expand this war to include my entry to help Kravania. If only because I like to help the underdog.]
McKagan
16-03-2006, 18:20
(OOC)

I am hoping to provoke you into an invasion, Kravania would fight you guerrilla style, at close combat, not with huuge fleets of jet fighters etc...

My aim is to tie your nation down into a Vietnam style war, causing your nation to weaken.

But I have come to the conclusion that I can NEVER be your IC friend or ally.

If there's one thing you should learn it's that McKagan will NEVER throw ground forces into a trap like that. By the time you have a chance at a guerilla war IMAF would have destroyed anything resembling infrastructure. Besides that, I'm stretched as it is and probably wouldn't send in Marines.

Your stubborness and your nation's ever zealous interventionism would never go along with anything I do.

While you do a highly conservative, religious zelic based government I do a Liberal Place that hunts religions. No, that doesn't seem to work...

If we do a war, I'll make a thread later with McKagan launching some sort of offensive. It'll be a closed affair.

Jagada - I don't care if you want to be in the conflict. That'll make it pretty even. It'll be you and Kravania against McKagan, TLA, and Willink. Both TLA and Willink seem to like to fight closer to home while McKagan fights a far reaching war. Given that, and that they're both fairly small nations compared to Jagada, I think that gives me room to bring one of my CARE allies in. Considering it would also be another perfect conflict for them.

Kravania has stated that he wants McKagan to fight a guerilla style war against him. What I want is a thread where I can flex the IMA's might without having to worry about a thread stating McKagan is commiting war crimes coming up and getting an army against us. I want sides that are SET, as mentioned above.

Another thing I want is a basic statement that this will be in the KRAVANIAN theatre. That means that Jagada won't invade McKagan, Willink or TLA and that we won't stretch our collective muscle (and allies) and invade Jagada. Futhermore, I don't want WMD warfare AT ALL. I want a good, down to Earth RP of an outnumbered and out-of-luck nation fighting a McKagan fronted invasion.

It will be JUST LIKE IRAQ, only McKagan can react faster. Massive air support and small, quick units rule the day. At that, Pavelic will have a MASSIVE bounty on his head. Given how IMAF shuts things down, I wouldn't rate his chances of fleeing the nation as very high.

I don't want Jagada landing a massive army to fight McKagan. Rather, being like Iran and supplying ever better weapons to the insurgency.
The Lone Alliance
16-03-2006, 18:25
[OOC: Hmmm...considering the rather hostile responses. I assume it would be out of the question to expand this war to include my entry to help Kravania. If only because I like to help the underdog.]
He won't accept your help anyway, you're Democratic Socialist, he only wants Facists on his side. He'd rather kill your entrire nation instead.

For awhile 'My' nation was the underdog, it was me against Roach-Busters,
Kravania, and Parthia, but then I used his own overuse of WMDs as an appeal to the nations of the world to help my nation out. His nuclear first strike was his death blow.
The Kraven Corporation
16-03-2006, 20:43
He won't accept your help anyway, you're Democratic Socialist, he only wants Facists on his side. He'd rather kill your entrire nation instead.



*Evil Laughter Ensues*
Jagada
16-03-2006, 20:56
[OOC: Wrong. I'm am one with the Kraven Corporation. NEVER use my nation page as a way to tell what my government it. So I will pull Kravania out of the fire on this one.]

{OOC2: You have my word McKagan, that I shall follow the rules you have established. My only goal is to save Kravania.}
McKagan
16-03-2006, 22:09
{OOC2: You have my word McKagan, that I shall follow the rules you have established. My only goal is to save Kravania.}

All we need to do is get Kravania to accept to it. It'll be a quicky invasion, if it goes like this - then a much longer war.

What i'm hoping he'll do is designate a group of "field commanders," where they're operating and stuff so I can go after them.
The Lone Alliance
16-03-2006, 23:50
Well if Mckagan goes in invasion, I'll stick a light occuipation force in a defensive position, with Special Op attacks on remote areas to harass insurgants. That and other stuff. I can't commit a large force without leaving my homeland open to a counter attack from a Former Kravania ally.
McKagan
16-03-2006, 23:51
One of the conditions to this war is that there won't be any fighting related to it outside the Kravanian theatre.
McKagan
17-03-2006, 00:12
Oh, and Kravania - you're not going to manipulate time this time around.

Last time Willink dropped an EMP weapon on your nation, you stated that it would knock the air defense grid out for two weeks - and then just had the RP convienently skip ahead two weeks. You are NOT doing that this time. I would have used those two weeks in the other RP to have IMAF bomb the holy fuck out of you.

I'm ignoring any attempt at time-modding this RP.
Southeastasia
17-03-2006, 11:02
OOC: Jagada, you are a puppet of Kraven?
Jagada
18-03-2006, 00:47
[OOC: No, and if you want to contact me via MSN. Send me a Telegram. Other than that there is no possible way for to me prove I'm not a puppet other than my word. Though, if I was a Kravanian Ally, why would when he was fighting you guys I was fighting The Macabees in a Colonial War. Along with being a member of the WACL and being in various RPs.]
Willink
18-03-2006, 00:56
OOC: Jagada, you are a puppet of Kraven?

OOC-Um, Jagada has been in the same region as me for a nearly a year.
McKagan
18-03-2006, 22:42
[People have began to question how Kravania can skip forth without taking any real damage or responsibilities from his nuclear attack. We would obviously counter on that fact, and thus a new form of the RP needs to be written. I have came to this conclusion]

It takes place a few months after the McKagan nuclear retaliation. Kravania is in ruins economically, socially, politically, and militarily. Most of the military command has been destroyed without end. After the radiation drops a bit in the months afterwards, McKagan decides to lead a massive invasion of the nation in order to oust Pavelic before he can rebuild his forces. However, those few months were just long enough for a net of ex military to band together and form a resistance to the invasion.

The radiation would require NBC protecting almost everywhere and extremly distort things. Making airstrikes hard and carpet bombing/artillery the only means of air assault. On the other hand, it also means that the insurgency will have to invest the majority of whats left of the Kravanian National Reserve in NBC gear/based weapons.

As before, it's a closed RP with very strict sides and no WMD's. Jagada could be the nation arming Kravania with NBC stuff for little or no cut of the national reserve; but probably wouldn't want to invade due to the sheer hell of the area. McKagan is soon boged down in a insurgent war in a hell zone that will last as long as Pavelic is around, and possibly afterwards. McKagan becomes a depressing place at points.

It makes for a great story and is fair to everyone.
Jagada
19-03-2006, 00:56
[OOC: Well, yes I could very well take out due thats it a mess. Though Capitol Police have armor with NBC already apart of it. If you desire a picture I can get a few for you. Just bringing up that NBC gear won't be too hard for me to get or sell, save I won't sell CP armor unless I get permission (proliferation of technology forbidden by Kraven, ect, ect).

If you don't mind I would also like to supply the Kravanian Resistance with weapons, artillery, ammo, supplies to turn them into an effective fighting force. If he manages to turn it around just enough, I can jump in and call it restoring order and get myself involved. If thats how you want this to go.

Or

I could be like Kraven, and just jump in and save him regardless of legitmacy. Your call.
McKagan
19-03-2006, 01:26
[OOC: Well first Kravania has to agree to it - and we all know how that is. I wouldn't put any restrictions on what you CAN supply, but just think of a few things. McKagan will have the nation locked down in this RP. You won't sneak artillery through that. With that said, how long do you expect a fixed artillery position to last with IMAF roaming around?]
Jagada
19-03-2006, 03:18
[OOC: I see your point. Though I do want, and need for that matter, to become directly involved in the war. No way Kravania could survive against IMAF forces forever. They would need my direct intervention to pull off a 100% successful rebellion.]