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Ok, this thread is for all the questions and rants and random other crap from the continent of Irathria. Treat this like an OOC thread, don't post stuff that doesn't belong to Irathria here, thats what General is for.
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Ithrathia, huh? Great, how do I get in?

do we have names for the straights all around, 'cause it will get cumbersome otherwise

So, what is the actual name of the region? I can't find it.

No region. Just ask. I think I'll be adding some more lands, so if you could just hold tight....

Okay. I'm going to think about adding a nation.

Two things:
One, can someone please make a wiki article? I really, really need one.
Two, I think since I'm going to make a whole other continent, that I might just make this an entire earth. (But still connected with NS Earth of course) Would it be terribly confusing if I renamed the continent, or would it be even more so if I kept the name and named the earth the same thing?

what i would suggest is keep this continent named Irathria and then create a region, not so much another earth, I am quite loathe to the idea and the connotations of calling it an earth. Maybe perhaps just stick to what it is a grouping of continents in the vein of Eurasia or North/South America or Europe/Africa or India/Asia. Something like that perhaps.

As for a wiki article, I would be willing to look into it but what I'd like before starting are some more or less concrete things to work with, esp. as it relates to maps (be them political, topographical, or related to human geography of any various sort.) The problem I envision is that if we, by which I mean the current RPers, keep expanding landmasses by adding continents and islands we reduce the value in the land we already have - forcing us to obtain more and more to remain competitive. For example, if we add a whole new continent it seems quite likely that already existing nations will make massive land grabs there too. Admittedly, as you add islands I keep taking them, or at least some of them.

So perhaps before I/we create a wiki article we work on the specifics of the continent(s) and such. Myself, I like to use Photoshop for the maps and then if necessary convert them from .psd's into whatever I need while hoping to keep some resolution and clarity. I think that especially climate and resource definitions of territories could be of particular use before all of us begin to say, I own a gazillion barrels of oil and natural gas beneath my land... if we can state definitively that this land has no oil in comparison to here, it makes it far more interesting.

These are just some ideas, though. I don't know how you'd want to work it all.

what i would suggest is keep this continent named Irathria and then create a region, not so much another earth, I am quite loathe to the idea and the connotations of calling it an earth. Maybe perhaps just stick to what it is a grouping of continents in the vein of Eurasia or North/South America or Europe/Africa or India/Asia. Something like that perhaps.

As for a wiki article, I would be willing to look into it but what I'd like before starting are some more or less concrete things to work with, esp. as it relates to maps (be them political, topographical, or related to human geography of any various sort.) The problem I envision is that if we, by which I mean the current RPers, keep expanding landmasses by adding continents and islands we reduce the value in the land we already have - forcing us to obtain more and more to remain competitive. For example, if we add a whole new continent it seems quite likely that already existing nations will make massive land grabs there too. Admittedly, as you add islands I keep taking them, or at least some of them.

So perhaps before I/we create a wiki article we work on the specifics of the continent(s) and such. Myself, I like to use Photoshop for the maps and then if necessary convert them from .psd's into whatever I need while hoping to keep some resolution and clarity. I think that especially climate and resource definitions of territories could be of particular use before all of us begin to say, I own a gazillion barrels of oil and natural gas beneath my land... if we can state definitively that this land has no oil in comparison to here, it makes it far more interesting.

These are just some ideas, though. I don't know how you'd want to work it all.

At Azazia:
Yeah, I usually don't like the idea of Earths, but I thought that was the easiest way of explaining it.

About your problem with lands becoming less valuble, your probably right. I guess I should just have it that no one can take lands in the new continent if they already have lands here.

And about the resources thing, your absouluty right. I'll try to do something like Sarnias sometime today.
And I'll guess I'll think up some history stuff.

You should make two continents which are, for the moment, utterly unaware of each others existance. And I loathe the concept of "Earth's". My heck, give a little original geography, ecspecially since I've already got my nation mapped out (roughly) and there's nothing like it on Earth.

Earth's are kinda boring, but this is cool so far. Making more continents is good, and you can keep expanding to draw a full NS map lol!

question: do we get to pick our climate.

Not really, but seeing how I'm working on the climate map right now... you could give me some ideas...

But just so you know, it'll probably be tropical in your area, but that can change!

tropicals fine.

do we have names for the straights all around, 'cause it will get cumbersome otherwise
:confused:

Getting to that. I haven't been home since yesterday.

I already have my nations geography, and the bulk of its history based around that geography...would it be too much to ask for that kind of geography on the new continent (mountains to the north, river/forest/swamp to the west, plains everywhere else)?

Well, the only place I have open right now is a tropical area, but this could suit your needs if you wanted it to.

I hope this isn't the end of the Maritime conference...if so, it means we haven't progressed a bit on the issue of sea claims and oceanic law. We need to hammer out an agreement soon, and we've all got to sign it if it is going to be legit.

What's wrong with tropical mountains? And a tropical rainforest? Nothing in my books, though the plains would be a problem...but hey, it's a possibility, right?

Well, theres a savannah type area... Should I put you down for it?

I was laying down the framework for Ttambo's history when I sort of ran into a snag. I'd like Ttambo to have some sort of foreign influence in it. Somewhere along the line, preferably in the mid to late 1800s, Ttambo was invaded by a foreign country and made into a colony. For nearly a century white men ruled the predominantly brown-skinned Ttamboans until an ugly rebellion that took place in the 1970s. Present day, white men still exist in Ttambo, they just don't have power. I want a concrete explanation of why there are white men and Ttamboans living together and I want to create a real friction between their cultures. In order to do this, though, I'm going to need to write somebody else's nation into my history. Any volunteers?

I was laying down the framework for Ttambo's history when I sort of ran into a snag. I'd like Ttambo to have some sort of foreign influence in it. Somewhere along the line, preferably in the mid to late 1800s, Ttambo was invaded by a foreign country and made into a colony. For nearly a century white men ruled the predominantly brown-skinned Ttamboans until an ugly rebellion that took place in the 1970s. Present day, white men still exist in Ttambo, they just don't have power. I want a concrete explanation of why there are white men and Ttamboans living together and I want to create a real friction between their cultures. In order to do this, though, I'm going to need to write somebody else's nation into my history. Any volunteers?

I could possibly help, some what... i'll TG you

Velkya's moderate in the south, cold in the middle and icy in the extreme north.

Velkya's massive.

The mountains to the north are a huge part of it, that's more important than the plains.

Asbena needs more land. ^-^
Anyone want to be invaded?

I don't want to be invaded, but you could take the land north of Florintine...

Also, would a mountainous country be willing to part with a small section of there nation for a third world puppet of mine? Its part of a little project...

I was laying down the framework for Ttambo's history when I sort of ran into a snag. I'd like Ttambo to have some sort of foreign influence in it. Somewhere along the line, preferably in the mid to late 1800s, Ttambo was invaded by a foreign country and made into a colony. For nearly a century white men ruled the predominantly brown-skinned Ttamboans until an ugly rebellion that took place in the 1970s. Present day, white men still exist in Ttambo, they just don't have power. I want a concrete explanation of why there are white men and Ttamboans living together and I want to create a real friction between their cultures. In order to do this, though, I'm going to need to write somebody else's nation into my history. Any volunteers?

I may be able to assist in this idea of yours. I would need more info on it if able.

I don't want to be invaded, but you could take the land north of Florintine...

Also, would a mountainous country be willing to part with a small section of there nation for a third world puppet of mine? Its part of a little project...

What kind of project?

An everyone-in-NS-has-like-two-third-world-countries-movement project.
If it works, NS will get pretty sweet. If it doesn't, people will abuse it.

>.> How do you suggest doing this?

Teach by example.

I would like to have an available country if you have any left.

me too! and say in the wiki article that i brought Rage Against The Machine to the region!

No.

Could The Beltway take over one of the small islands between Velkya's island and the land governed by Raven Corps as a naval base?

how is the wiki article coming

The maritime conference can be kept going.. just post to it if you have something to add. TG Intracircumcordei with any bilateral naval issues...

I have my own mapping and ect.. to expand a bit.. I've decided that ICCD will terraform anything that doesn't fit the general mold.. as was mentioned to ramissle here is a copy of a TG

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1. ICCD's southern areas are to be tropical and subtropical the northern islands are subtropical and temperate due to the bay of balltrap pushing warm weather up north. The North of ICCD border rammisle is along the southernmost tip subtropical i.e. florida, georgia etc.. the north is temperate. Meanwhile the offshore colony is assumed to be tropical/subtropical i.e. like the caribean

2. the amazonian beasts ICCD border is in favour of Amazonian beasts slightly the entire high land asumed mountain should be in ICCD zone using the original map generally approximates where the borders are at the source of the rivers directly perpendicular to the border with Niall Noiglach and then down. Where the yellow is is where the border was, the green on the left is correct but the area to the right of the green in north amazonia beasts is incorrect, as the border between iccd and amazonian beasts is along a hilly elevation differentiation ICCD has the highland and AMazionian beasts has the lowland. Also south ICCD is predominantly rainforest much the same as amazonian beasts except in the higher elevations which it is thinned out abit. the north of iccd around ICCD is in the south subtroical and temperate forest, highland mountain along the western border with ramissle and in the north hilly steeps.

3. the border of sanderburg and the international zone is drawn too far north as stated in the original map it was a quickly drawn and erronous, the border should be drawn further south from the 5 base layout the points. I can draw the difference if it makes it easier for you to exactly get it how it was done.

If you have an issue with me correcting the maps say so however it seems blatantly flawed from what was originally explained.

also the desert in the area between ICCD and amazonian beasts is not appropriate there as that area was suppose to have an abundance of water coming from the mountains feeding amazonian beasts. So a hilly jungle area should be the border the savanah is fine

any questions ask, I will draw ICCD's take on the areas it inhabits for you to check with although I invision ICCDs area in the south to be abounding with life and the north being more savanah esq. Palamos should be 'jungle' in the south a palm savanah is fine for the north and east though.
The COLD winter area does not fit.. ICCD should be at most 'temperate' the border with truit can be 'cold' but should be relative to india himalyan hills not the mountains but the hilly area, so if you can warm up the north of ICCD up to the temperate area that will be good a little can stay the warmest cold though in the very north border portion.


I am going to start some threads on dian bio improvement projects.. however you have me mostly cold and dry when I am suppose to have a very mayan, incan and aztec background as well such as yucatan jungle etc.. you are partially correct but some more rainforest areas in the tropical and subtropical hilly etc.. needs to be accounted for.. and we arn't a desert people I suggest moving the dester to the northern border with ramissle on the westcoast.

any issues just say I won't post this to the map thread yet but if youd like me too I can

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I have an ICCD wiki page that can be linked to the page.. perhaps we can keep a 'history timeline' of important events we can add to like ongoing conflicts, results of battles, diplomacy etc... etc.. in the wiki