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This is the main page for the International Olympic Commitee for the E20 Alternate History Thread...

Offices: Lausanne, Switzerland (main office)

IOC General Secretary: Wilhelm Roemler (Germany)
FIFA General Secretary: Nicholas Minuette (Netherlands)

Next Olympic Games: 1972- Cortina d' Ampezzo, Italy (winter) and Mexico City, Central America (summer). 1976- Calgary, AB, North America (Winter) and Naples, Italy (Summer). Bidding for the 1980 Olympics has begun...

Next FIFA World Cup: France (1974). World Cup Bidding for 1978 is underway.

Any nation can join the IOC without any reservation as long as they are willing to gather in peaceful competition on the athletic field and so on...

The basic rules apply the same way as the real IOC would be arranged, but simpler to understand.

Games of the XIV Olympiad, London 1948 (Summer Games)

Results:

Top Ten List of Medal Winners

Country Gold Silver Bronze
USA 38 27 19
Scandic Union 24 22 28
France 10 6 13
Hungary 10 5 12
Italy 8 11 8
Finland 8 7 5
Czechoslovakia 6 2 3
Switzerland 5 10 5
Germany 5 2 9
Great Britain 3 14 6


Events included:

Athletics, Basketball, Boxing, Canoeing, Cycling, Diving, Equestrianism, Fencing, Football, Gymnastics, Hockey, Modern Pentathlon, Rowing, Shooting, Swimming, Water Polo, Weightlifting, Wrestling and Yachting.

OOC Notes:

I have had to adjust the historical table to allow for the countries that didn't compete historically (Japan and Germany) to be included and have merged Denmark, Norway and Sweden into the SU. Russia apparently didn’t do well at this Olympics. The hosts, Britain didn't actually feature on the top ten list (the first time for a host country ever) but they sneaked on with some of the mega-nations meaning that smaller countries no longer exist.

The USA is, as always, the dominant force at the Olympics but this year the main competition came in the form of the SU whose status as a mega-nation gave them some medals.

The event was officially opened by HM King George VI.

OOC: When are we going to choose the next cities?

OOC Note: Actually, the Next Olympic Selections would be scheduled for early 1949 - mid 1950... (The List has to be submitted to the main thread or to this thread.).

St. Moritz Final Medal Count

Sweden and Norway (Scandia): 8 golds, 6 silvers, 6 bronzes - 20 total
Finland (Scandia): 1 gold, 3 silvers, 2 bronzes - 6 total
Switzerland: 3 golds, 4 silvers, 3 bronzes - 10 total
United States: 3 golds, 4 silvers, 2 bronzes - 9 total
Austria (Germany): 1 gold, 3 silvers, 4 bronzes - 8 total
France: 2 golds, 1 silver, 2 bronzes - 5 total
Canada: 2 golds, 1 bronze - 3 total
Belgium: 1 gold, 1 silver - 2 total
Great Britain: 2 bronzes - 2 total
Italy: 1 gold - 1 total
Czechoslovakia: 1 silver - 1 total
Hungary: 1 silver - 1 total.

Prominent Nations that did not medal included China, Japan, Germany, Russia, Netherlands, Federation of Asian States, etc.

Nominating Munich for Summer games and Vienna for winter.

Do we have to do the nominattions all over again now?

OOC: India didn't get any medals? :(

The Summer Olympics will be at Marseilles 1952, right?

1952's Winter Games are in Lake Placid and the Summer will be in Marseille.

Final Finishing Order for Germany 1950
1. Federation of South American Nations
2. Brazil
3. Scandic Union
4. Spain
5. Yugoslavia
6. Germany
7. Italy
8. England

The Next World Cup would be possibly scheduled for Brazil in 1954.

Final Finishing Order for Germany 1950
1. Federation of South American Nations
2. Brazil
3. Scandic Union
4. Spain
5. Yugoslavia
6. Germany
7. Italy
8. England

The Next World Cup would be possibly scheduled for Brazil in 1954.


Beat by the Scandics? War is a must now!

Ah great stuffed by the Scandic Union, Spain and Yugoslavia. Looks like it's back to the drawing board for the England Coach.

Lake Placid, Winter 1952.
1. Scandic Union 7:3:10 - 20
2. Greater Germany 5:6:4 - 15
3. America 4:6:1 - 11
4. Finland (scandia) 3:4:2 - 9
5. Holland 0:3:0 - 3
6. Canada and Italy each had 1:0:1 - 2
8. Switzerland 0:0:2 - 2
The only others to medal were Great Britain, France and Hungary.

Marseille, Summer 1952.
1. America 40:19:17 - 76
2. Russia, Ukraine, Central Asia, etc. 22:30:19 - 71
3. Scandic Union 17:16:13 - 46
4. Hungary 16:10:16 - 42
5. Greater Germany 0:8:18 - 26
6. Finland (scandia) 6:3:13 - 22
7. Italy 8:9:4 - 21
8. France 6:6:6 - 18
9. Australia 7:2:5 - 14
10. Switzerland 2:6:6 - 14
11. Czechoslovakia 7:3:3 - 13
12. Great Britain 1:2:8 - 11
13. South Africa 2:4:4 - 10

The Next Olympic Olympic Games are for 1956 in Sapporo, Hokkaido Island, Japan (winter) and Melbourne, Victoria, Australia(summer).

OOC: Wah!! they Asians never win anything... maybe now is the time to start with the steroids.... :p

OOC: I guess Asia will definitely improve on 1952 by leaps and bounds in the next few years especially with the Sapporo and Melbourne games providing a sure and complete benefit to Asia's sporting intrastructure...and maybe another qualification place in the FIFA World Cup in Brazil could be helpful too...

wait......the world cup is gonna be in Brazil?? and how many years apart are each world cup from each other?

Lake Placid, Winter 1952.
1. Scandic Union 7:3:10 - 20
2. Greater Germany 5:6:4 - 15
3. America 4:6:1 - 11
4. Finland (scandia) 3:4:2 - 9
5. Holland 0:3:0 - 3
6. Canada and Italy each had 1:0:1 - 2
8. Switzerland 0:0:2 - 2
The only others to medal were Great Britain, France and Hungary.

Marseille, Summer 1952.
1. America 40:19:17 - 76
2. Russia, Ukraine, Central Asia, etc. 22:30:19 - 71
3. Scandic Union 17:16:13 - 46
4. Hungary 16:10:16 - 42
5. Greater Germany 0:8:18 - 26
6. Finland (scandia) 6:3:13 - 22
7. Italy 8:9:4 - 21
8. France 6:6:6 - 18
9. Australia 7:2:5 - 14
10. Switzerland 2:6:6 - 14
11. Czechoslovakia 7:3:3 - 13
12. Great Britain 1:2:8 - 11
13. South Africa 2:4:4 - 10

The Next Olympic Olympic Games are for 1956 in Sapporo, Hokkaido Island, Japan (winter) and Melbourne, Victoria, Australia(summer).

Huzzah for Australia! (reqs for olympics are a jet terminal in the city? If that is all then Melbourne is practically ready already)

Hmm.

Has shooting become an olympic sport yet? Seems like the only thing Indians can do well is go to war. Never mind I have 400 million people, I guess none of them are any good at sports.

OOC: Brazil will host the World Cup for 1954. The FIFA World Cup would fall every 4 years...(1958, 1962, 1966 and so on).
The Olympics would be in 4 year pattern too, but the years are different...(1960, 1964, 1968 and so on).
Note: I only listed those countries who scored 10 or more medals in Marseille.
Shooting started in the modern Summer Olympics back in 1896 (all Olympic Summer Games from 1896 to now had shooting events excluding 1928...)

Hmm.

Has shooting become an olympic sport yet? Seems like the only thing Indians can do well is go to war. Never mind I have 400 million people, I guess none of them are any good at sports.

India is really good at Cricket too I understand

Too bad that cricket isn't an Olympic sport (though they are trying to get 20:20 cricket in for the London 2012 Olympics, as well as a British football team). The UK could stand a decent chance at getting a gold for once...

Wow, my Scandics are showing up.

India is really good at Cricket too I understand

India and Pakistan are pretty much the two best teams in cricket, pretty much because A) they like it alot and B) both countries have been training to be better than the other through cricket. Bangladesh isn't that bad, either. A united India team would be unstopable.

will I ever get any medals?

Japan has scored medals, but had a weak time in Marseille and will do very well in 1956 as well as emerge on the world scene in many sports... Japan is volleyball's current world champions for 1954 in both men's and women's divisions. Swimming and male gymnastics programs are going very well and dominating in world competion...

Japan has scored medals, but had a weak time in Marseille and will do very well in 1956 as well as emerge on the world scene in many sports... Japan is volleyball's current world champions for 1954 in both men's and women's divisions. Swimming and male gymnastics programs are going very well and dominating in world competion...

Can we add cricket as an olympic sport? Because it looks like that's the only way I can get any medals :p

India wins the Commonwealth of Nations International Cricket Championships a lot in real life (or whatever they call it)

Countries Competing in Final Stages: (16) Federation of South America, Brazil, Scandic Union, Germany, Holland, Russia, England, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Spain, Japan, Mexico, Egypt, Korea, Bulgaria and France.

Finishing Order by Group (after Group Stages):
Group 1: Germany, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Korea
Group 2: Sudamericana, France, Russia, Mexico
Group 3: Scandia, Bulgaria, Spain, Egypt
Group 4: Brazil, England, Japan, Holland

QuarterFinal Results:
Germany d. Bulgaria, Brazil d. England, Sudamericana d. Italy, Scandic Union d. France

SemiFinal Results: Germany d. Scandic Union, Brazil d. Sudamericana

3rd Place match: Sudamericana 4-2 Scandic Union, Championship match: Brazil 4-3 Germany (aet)

Brazil's First World Cup Victory... The holders FNS finished in third place.

Rome in 1957, Barcelona (Iberian Expo '59), Seattle (Century 21 Exposition '61), New York World's Fair in 1964 are next up on the International Exposition front...

Note:The major ones are Rome and NY while Barcelona and Seattle are specialized expositions.

Site: Saporro, Japan

Scandic Union - 6 gold, 6 silvers, 4 bronze : 16
Germany - 5 gold, 5 silver, 2 bronze : 12
Russia - 5 gold, 1 silver, 3 bronze : 9
Switzerland - 3 gold, 2 silver, 2 bronze : 7
United States - 2 gold, 1 silver, 3 bronze : 6
Italy - 1 gold, 1 silver, 3 bronze : 5
Canada - 3 silver : 3
France - 1 silver, 2 bronze : 3
Japan - 1 silver, 2 bronze : 3
Netherlands - 1 gold, 1 silver : 2
Great Britain - 1 bronze
Hungary - 1 bronze
Poland - 1 bronze

(OOC: Role Played Results this time)

Site: Melbourne, Australia

1. Russia 37-29-32 Total 98
2. United States 32-25-17 Total 74
3. Scandic Union 13-8-20 Total 41
4. Australia 15-8-14 Total 37
5. Germany 6-13-9 Total 28
6. Hungary 9-10-7 Total 26
7. Italy 8-8-9 Total 25
8. Great Britain 6-7-11 Total 24
9. Japan 4-10-5 Total 19
10. France 4-4-6 Total 14
11. Rumania 5-3-5 Total 13
12. Poland 1-4-4 Total 9
13. Turkey 3-2-2 Total 7
14. South American Federation 0-3-4 Total 7
15. Canada 2-1-3 Total 6
15. Czechoslovakia 1-4-1 Total 6
17. United Islamic Republic 2-2-1 Total 5
17. Bulgaria 1-3-1 Total 5
17. Ireland 1-1-3 Total 5

The Balance of the Medal Winning Nations by Order of Total Medals is as follows:
20. South Africa - 4 Total
21. Yugoslavia - 3 Total
22. India/Pakistan, Mexico, Belgium, Korea - 2 Total (each)
26. Brazil, Iceland, British West Indies, Greece, Switzerland - 1 Total (each)

Vladivostok has an International Airport, and is willing to host the World Cup for 1962.

Hamburg is willing to host the 1960 Summer Olympics and Vienna the Winter.

I assume you mean 1960--Melbourne and Saporro just held 1956.

And I might add we Australians did well on our home turf. Huzzah!

The city of Srinigar is willing to host the next Winter Olympics.

Sigh... once again Indochina get zero medals.

What perplexes me deeply is that China didn't get any medals either, you would think with their massive population and the amount of their athletes that would go to the Olympics would Russia and USA, they would at least get something....

Anyway.....

The city of Bangkok in Thailand starts a bid for host city status in the 1960 Summer Olympics.
(Bangkok has an international airport terminal and a cruise ship terminal)


Also the USEA Football team apply to join FIFA.

Sigh... once again Indochina get zero medals.

What perplexes me deeply is that China didn't get any medals either, you would think with their massive population and the amount of their athletes that would go to the Olympics would Russia and USA, they would at least get something....


It just goes to show that having an uber-huge economy doesn't mean you're going to win medals :)

It just goes to show that having an uber-huge economy doesn't mean you're going to win medals :)

It does if he decides to dump a load of points into subsidies for athletic education, training facilities, programs and equipment.

Pity Mao isn't there. If he could get the hand grenade toss into the Olympics, they'd have a steady supply of gold medals.

OOC: USEA is already a member of FIFA...as well as the IOC.

The Sites for the 1960 Olympic Games have been announced as Innsbruck for the Winter and Rome for the Summer Games...

Group A: Federation of South America, Germany, Korea, Switzerland.
Group B: Brazil, Egypt(United Republic), Russia, Spain.
Group C: Belgium, Bulgaria, Scandic Union, United States.
Group D: England, Italy, Mexico, Union of SE Asia

Group Stage Finishing Order
A: Germany, FNS, Korea, Switzerland
B: Brazil, Russia, Egypt, Spain
C: Scandic Union, Bulgaria, Belgium, USA
D: England, Mexico, Italy, USEA

1/4 Finals:
Brazil 3-1 Mexico, Germany 3-2 Russia (aet), Scandia 1-4 FNS, England 3-2 Bulgaria (aet).

Semi-Finals:
Brazil 3-4 England, Germany 2-3 FNS (aet).

Finals:
Bronze Medal Match: Brazil 1-3 Germany. Gold Medal Match: FNS 0-3 England.

The Ancestoral Homeland of Association Football finally wins their crown in Berne... Hopefully England will try to defend their crown in Korea in 1962...

Woo!

The winning British team is honoured with an open topped bus ride through London accompanied by rejoicing crowds. The final team lineup as follows:

Colin Macdonald, Donald Howe, Thomas Banks, Edwin Clamp, William Wright, William Slater, Bryan Douglas, Robert (Bobby) Robson, Derek Kevan, John Haynes, Thomas Finney.

Have been lined up for several commemerative awards, including mentions of MBEs, KBEs and CBEs.

England also puts forward it's intention to bid for the hosting of the 1966 world cup, in the hope of another victory (or maybe a third by then!) and a fine celebration for the nation.

FIFA has announced plans to host the first ever youth World Cup in England in 1959...
The nations involved in the first Copa Juventude are: Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, England, Federation of South American Nations, France, Germany, India/Pakistan, Japan, Mexico, Nigeria, Russia, South Africa and United States...

In other sporting news: FIBA will hold their World Championship in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (United States) in 1959... FIVB will hold their men's and women's World Cup in Bulgaria in 1959 as well. IIHF will hold their World Challenge in Cortina d'Ampezzo in Italy in MArch of 1959.

The Iberian Fair in Barcelona starts in early April and lasts into December of 1959...

FIBA Men's World Championship Results:
1. United States - 2. Russia - 3. Federation of South America - 4. Italy

FIBA Women's World Championship Results:
1. Russia - 2. United States - 3. Cuba - 4. Hungary

Ice Hockey World Cup Results:
1. Canada - 2. Russia - 3. Scandic Union - 4. Czechoslovakia

FIVB World Cup for Men:
1. Japan - 2. Russia - 3. Cuba - 4. United States

FIVB World Cup for Ladies:
1. Japan - 2. Russia - 3. Korea - 4. Poland

FIFA 1st Copa Juventude:
1. France - 2. Germany - 3. Brazil - 4. Russia

Milan will apply to host the 1966 FIFA World Cup.

Johannesburg will apply to host the 1964 Summer Olympics.

Saigon applies to host the 1964 Summer Olympics.

Seoul applies to host the 1964 Summer Olympics

Scandic Union: 8 gold, 8 silver, 5 bronze - 21 total
Russia/Ukraine/Central Asia: 7 gold, 5 silver, 9 bronze - 21 total
Germany: 5 gold, 5 silver, 4 bronze - 14 total
USA: 4 gold, 5 silver, 3 bronze - 12 total
Switzerland: 3 gold, 1 silver - 4 total
Canada: 2 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze - 4 total
France: 1 gold, 2 bronze - 3 total
Netherlands: 1 silver, 1 bronze - 2 total
Poland: 1 silver, 1 bronze - 2 total
Italy: 2 bronze - 2 total
Czechoslovakia: 1 silver - 1 total

Winter Olympic Games: Oslo, Scandic Union (February of 1964)
Summer Olympic Games: Johannesburg, Union of South Africa (September of 1964)

Future World's Fair Announcements: 1964 - New York City, New York, USA.
Expo '67 - Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Scandic Union: 8 gold, 8 silver, 5 bronze - 21 total
Russia/Ukraine/Central Asia: 7 gold, 5 silver, 9 bronze - 21 total
Germany: 5 gold, 5 silver, 4 bronze - 14 total
USA: 4 gold, 5 silver, 3 bronze - 12 total
Switzerland: 3 gold, 1 silver - 4 total
Canada: 2 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze - 4 total
France: 1 gold, 2 bronze - 3 total
Netherlands: 1 silver, 1 bronze - 2 total
Poland: 1 silver, 1 bronze - 2 total
Italy: 2 bronze - 2 total
Czechoslovakia: 1 silver - 1 total


what happened to Japan? We were doing so well...

FIVB World Cup for Ladies:
1. Japan - 2. Russia - 3. Korea - 4. Poland

Korea congratulates it Women's Team for getting this far in the FIVB championship.

OOC: How do I improve my sports standing?

Rome 1960
1. Russia, Ukraine, Central Asia, etc. (RUS) 41-29-31:101
2. United States (USA) 35-20-16:71
3. Germany (GER) 14-20-10:44
4. Italy (ITA) 14-9-12:35
5. Australia (AUS) 10-8-7:25
6. Hungary (HUN) 6-8-7:21
7. Poland (POL) 4-6-10:20
Great Britain (GBR) 1-6-13:20
9. Japan (JPN) 3-8-7:18
10. Scandic Union (SCV) 5-5-6:16
11. Romania (ROM) 3-1-6:10
12. Turkey (TUR) 7-2-0:9
Czechoslovakia (TCH) 3-3-3:9
14. Bulgaria (BUL) 1-3-3:7
15. Switzerland (SUI) 0-3-3:6
16. France (FRA) 0-2-3:5
17. Belgium (BEL) 0-2-2:4
South Africa (SAF) 0-1-3:4
United Islamic Republic (RIU) 0-1-3:4
20. Egypt (EGY) 0-1-2:3
Federation of South America (FNS) 0-1-2:3
Netherlands (HOL) 0-1-2:3

Other Medal Scoring Nations are as follows:
2 Medals- 23. Yugoslavia (YUG), 24. India/Pakistan (IND), 25. Brazil (BRA), British West Indies (BWI).

1 Medal- 27. Ethiopia (ETH), Greece (GRE), 29. Canada (CAN), China (CHN), Ghana (GHA), Morocco (MAR), Portugal (POR), Spain (ESP),
35. Arab Federation (ARS), Malaysia (MAS) and Mexico (MEX).

The Asian nations other than Japan did not fare too well in neither Rome or in Innsbruck this year in the Olympic Gatherings...
Several nations will be eager to get to 1964 in order to redeem themselves and the addition of a few new Olympic Sports may help matters (Volleyball and Judo are sure to be added to the lineup in Jo'burg)...

OOC: I had a hard time figuring out what the Scandic and UIR IOC Abbreviations were... So, the current one would be SCV until anyone come up with a better Landcode for either Scandia or the United Islamic Republic...

Beirut would like to apply to hold a future World's Fair.

EDIT: What can I do to improve Olympic standings (Ghana gets medals but I don't :( )

OOC: I had a hard time figuring out what the Scandic and UIR IOC Abbreviations were... So, the current one would be SCV until anyone come up with a better Landcode for either Scandia or the United Islamic Republic...

If you ever have troubles with the USEA's abbreviation, it is SEA standing for South East Asia or INC for Indochina

OOC: Can I ask how the FIFA World Cup is run? Please reply either here or by TG.

OOC: The FIFA World Cup would be every four years like in RL, but the sites usually are selected based on the nominations on this thread. The Olympics venue bidding would function the same way. The rules are basically the same as RL except that the results are imagined and/or Role played.

1962 FIFA World Cup Nations that have qualified as of June of 1961:
Brazil, England (holders), Federation of South America and Korea (hosts). 8 European, 1 North American, 1 Asian, 1 African and 1 other nation are needed to complete the field for Korea 1962...

The Congo has been forced to withdraw from WC Qualification and gives up its place in Africa's final round to Senegal. Asia and North America are now entering the final stage of qualification. Europe's qualification is entering its second half.

Japan!

The tragic turn in events in Siberia and the Caucauses has started cause a lot of trouble in the World of Sports... .
Hopefully, this war will be settled with care as well as with a clear and peaceful resolution...

The World Cup of 1962, The Olympics of 1964 and a lot of sporting events may be under threat by the clouds of war hanging over Russia and over Asia at the moment.

The Winter Olympics of 1964 may have to change venue from Oslo, Scandia to another city if the IOC Executive Board decides to change the site in an emergency meeting in Lausanne...

The World Cup for 1962 is still on for Korea in the Summer.

The Qualified Nations at this time are Nigeria, South Africa, Germany, Rumania, Mexico, Bulgaria, Brazil, Scandinavia, Federation of South America, Spain, England, Italy, Japan, Czechoslovakia, France and Korea.

Note: Some Countries may still decide to withdraw or reenter the field due to the Conditions of the World at the moment...

Pool A: Brazil, Spain, Italy, Japan.
Pool B: England, Mexico, Bulgaria, South Africa.
Pool C: Scandinavia, France, Romania, Nigeria.
Pool D: FNS, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Korea. (The Group of Death)

World's Fairs Upcoming in Seattle for 1962, New York for 1964, Montreal for 1967.

FIFA's 2nd Copa Juventude will be held in Mexico in 1963. (Grand Final in Mexico City).
Olympic Bidding for 1968 is going until mid-1963 if possible...

Russia has been Completely reinstated to the Sporting fold yet are not in the field for the FIFA World Cup in 1962.

The World Cup for 1962 is still on for Korea in the Summer.

The Qualified Nations at this time are Nigeria, South Africa, Germany, Rumania, Mexico, Bulgaria, Brazil, Scandinavia, Federation of South America, Spain, England, Italy, Japan, Czechoslovakia, France and Korea.

Note: Some Countries may still decide to withdraw or reenter the field due to the Conditions of the World at the moment...

Pool A: Brazil, Spain, Italy, Japan.
Pool B: England, Mexico, Bulgaria, South Africa.
Pool C: Scandinavia, France, Romania, Nigeria.
Pool D: FNS, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Korea. (The Group of Death)

why is it called group of death? just because it's D?

Group D of the 1962 FIFA World Cup in Korea earned the nickname for being the most difficult group of the tournament's First Stage.

(FNS, Germany and Czechoslovakia are among the top 15 in the current "Rankings of the time" and Korea is also a threat as a home country.)

March 10, 1962 - Pacific Amphitheatre, San Francisco.
The International Olympic Committee has decided to keep the 1964 Winter Games in Oslo.
The 1968 Winter Games will be scheduled for Chamonix - Mont Blanc, France and the Summer Games are for Saigon, Indochina.

Bidding for the 1972 Olympic Games has begun...

Russia will nominate Moscow for the 1972 winter games.

In addition, some members of the Duma propose not attending the Oslo games out of protest for the continued denial of the UN ordered plebecite in St. Petersburg, and continued Scandic occupation of Karelia.

The UIP would like to propose that we recieve one of the Olympic games during the begining of the 1980's purchance.

Hamburg and Munich place their bids for the 1972 Olympics.

OOC: bum bum bum!

The UIP would like to propose that we recieve one of the Olympic games during the begining of the 1980's purchance.

I think you need to nominate a city

Japan nominates Kyoto for the summer Olympics

(as in the 1980 Olympics.)

France's Sweetest Revenge... in Korea.

Second Stage Results:
Group A: France 4 pts, Germany and Bulgaria 3 pts, Italy 2 pts.
Group B: England 5 pts, Brazil 4 pts, Scandia 2 pts, Czechoslovakia 1 pt.

Medal Round Results:
France 3-1 Brazil, England 1-2 Germany, Brazil 4-1 England, France 2-1(aet) Germany.

Final Finishing Order
1. France (Champions) http://fotw.vexillum.com/images/f/fr.gif
2. Germany (Silver Medal) http://fotw.vexillum.com/images/d/de1871.gif
3. Brazil (Bronze Medal) http://fotw.vexillum.com/images/b/br-1822.gif
4. England http://fotw.vexillum.com/images/g/gb-eng.gif
5. Bulgaria (3 pts in 2nd Stage)
6. Italy and Scandia (2 pts in 2nd Stage)
8. Czechoslovakia (1 pt in 2nd Stage)

9. FNS, Mexico and Spain (3 pts in Group Stage)
12. Korea and Romania (2 pts in Group Stage)
14. Nigeria (1 pt in Group Stage)
15. Japan and South Africa (0 pts in Group Stage)

Note: We are asking for 1972 bids for the Olympic Games at the moment...

I think you need to nominate a city

Japan nominates Kyoto for the summer Olympics

Kyoto for me

Parthini']Hamburg and Munich place their bids for the 1972 Olympics.

OOC: bum bum bum!

bump

Stockholm for 72.

OOC: Put 5 points into the city, might as well show it off.

OOC: Oh, that will be great, embargoing 2/3 winter Olympics.

IC: While the Duma debated Russia's attendance at the Oslo games, the head of Russia's Olympic Commission made a statement. The commissioner, Vsevolod Bobrov, was the 3rd higest scorer in the 1956 Olympic games. In his statement he declared

Unless otherwise ordered by the Duma, Russia's Olympic Committee will not attend the 1964 Olympic games, nor any later Olympiads taking place in the Scandic Union or its allies (the CSPS).

The Games were founded in the spirit of international cooperation. However, with the host being a nation that actively defies the UN in its occupation of Karelia and St. Petersburg, this is undermined. We will not attend any games in the occupying nation, nor those that endorse it, until the situation is remedied, and we would call upon the lawful, cooperative nations of the world to follow suit.

The Duma has the ability to overrule this declaration, but chances are not likely (ooc: they're likely glad they didn't have to do it).

Pakistan puts in its bid for Agra and Srinigar in the 1972 olypmics.

The IOC has decided to give the Winter Olympic Games for 1964 to St. Moritz as a neutral site due to the conditions of the World (and to try to stop a Russian boycott)...

Group A: Germany, Bulgaria, China, Haiti
Group B: Brazil, France, Mexico, Ghana
Group C: Russia, USA, Egypt, Australia
Group D: FNS, Korea, Italy, Hungary

Quarterfinals:
Germany d France, Russia d Korea, FNS d USA, Brazil d Bulgaria

Medal Round Results:
1. Germany 2. Brazil 3. Russia 4. FNS

The IOC has decided to give the Winter Olympic Games for 1964 to St. Moritz as a neutral site due to the conditions of the World (and to try to stop a Russian boycott)...

The Scandic Union will boycott the St Moritz games and recommends its allies in the CSPS to follow suit(8 more nations). The SU will not be cheated out of its oppurtunity to host games by a nation that has been kidnapping, torturing, and murdering en mass millions in both the Caucases and Siberia. A nation that started a nuclear war and held Stockholm hostage with 10,000 missiles threatening to kill millions of Scandic citizens. Further, the SU and CSPS will look extremely unkindly on any biased decisions in the future about Olympic hosting.(I.E., SU and CSPS cities not being picked as to avoid Russian boycott) If such things are suspected then the SU and CSPS will boycott those Olympic games as well.


(OOC: I'm back)

The Former General Secretary of the IOC Avery Brundage has resigned due to the 1964 Winter Olympic Scandal and the IOC would ask the Russians and the Scandics not to commit "national suicide" by plunging the IOC into a messy war-like situation...

The members of the Location Board felt that a neutral site would be necessary to insure that everyone had an equal opportunity to compete peacefully which unfortunately Oslo due to unforseen events did not qualify as a proper site. The IOC has made its share of misguided decisions in this matter and wish that the situation can be solved immediately and with due care...

Moving the games away from Oslo is essentially stealing them from the Scandic Union when we have been looking forward and preparing for these games for years. We can not and will not just stand by and le such a thing happen. If the games are stolen from us we will not attend them, nor will the other 8 nations that comprise the CSPS.

_IOC Bulletin for 1964 - Pre Saint Moritz Games_
The IOC is very nervous about the state of affairs in the United States and in Europe with the current major conflicts and upheavals.
The Draw for the FIFA 1966 World Cup Qualifications is also complete.
Later this year, the Venues for the 1972 Olympic Games will be selected.

Venue: St. Moritz, Switzerland

1. Russia: 14 9 4 - 27
2. Germany: 8 10 7 - 25
3. United States: 2 3 3 - 8 and Italy: 0 3 5 - 8
5. France: 2 3 2 - 7 and Switzerland: 1 1 5 - 7
7. Canada: 1 1 3 - 5 and Czechoslovakia: 1 1 3 - 5
9. Netherlands: 2 1 1 - 4
10. Korea: 0 2 0 - 2 and Japan: 0 0 2 - 2
12. Great Britain: 1 0 0 - 1, Bulgaria: 0 1 0 - 1 and Romania: 0 0 1 - 1.

(The medal count is displayed in this format... Ordinal. Nation: Gold Silver Bronze - Total. The final positions are based on total number of medals with the Gold, then Silver, then Bronze counts as the main tie breaker. If two or more nations have the same medal totals then it goes to alphabetical order of the nations involved...)

Venue: St. Moritz, Switzerland

1. Russia: 14 9 4 - 27
2. Germany: 8 10 7 - 25
3. United States: 2 3 3 - 8 and Italy: 0 3 5 - 8
5. France: 2 3 2 - 7 and Switzerland: 1 1 5 - 7
7. Canada: 1 1 3 - 5 and Czechoslovakia: 1 1 3 - 5
9. Netherlands: 2 1 1 - 4
10. Korea: 0 2 0 - 2 and Japan: 0 0 2 - 2
12. Great Britain: 1 0 0 - 1, Bulgaria: 0 1 0 - 1 and Romania: 0 0 1 - 1.

(The medal count is displayed in this format... Ordinal. Nation: Gold Silver Bronze - Total. The final positions are based on total number of medals with the Gold, then Silver, then Bronze counts as the main tie breaker. If two or more nations have the same medal totals then it goes to alphabetical order of the nations involved...)


hopefully the Winter Olympics took place before January 19

They were finished in Early January of 1964... The Summer Olympics in Johannesburg are looking very doubtful at best due to the fallout from the World's newest major conflict.

Russia believes holding the Summer Games would be important for many nations affected by recent events, and South Africa's neutrality of late makes it an excellent site for said games. Participation may be reduced, but it is still important to have the games held.

Germany offers to transport athletes who may not be able to arrive there on their own, such as China and the USEA.

The Summer Games of Johannesburg are on for September of 1964... The offers for Russia and for Germany are unanimously accepted by the IOC members.

The United States suspends its participation in the IOC until further notice

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to avoid the annoyance of being kicked out, as would be likely at this point

The Selection of the 1970 FIFA WC Host will be postponed until Early 1965...
Qualification for World Cup Italia '66 has begun. The United States and Egypt (United Republics) have withdrawn voluntarily from the competition...

The United States is still listed as a full member and with the other Federations as a "special nation due to hardship..."

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although I have no idea if the US even participated in the World Cup back then

1. Germany 23 18 19 - 60
2. Italy 14 13 13 - 40
3. Japan 16 10 13 - 39
Russia 14 17 8 - 39
5. Hungary 17 9 7 - 33
6. Australia 11 9 9 - 29
7. Scandinavia 9 9 10 - 28
8. Great Britain 9 10 8 - 27
9. France 5 11 10 - 26
10. Poland 8 6 5 - 19
11. Czechoslovakia 7 3 8 - 18
12. South Africa 3 4 8 - 15
13. Netherlands 5 6 3 - 14
Bulgaria 5 4 5 - 14
15. Romania 3 5 5 - 13
16. Canada 2 5 5 - 12
17. Ukraine 3 4 3 - 10
18. China 2 2 5 - 9
19. Korea 1 2 4 - 7
Switzerland 1 2 4 - 7
21. Central Asia 2 3 1 - 6
West Indies 2 3 1 - 6
Byelorussia 1 3 2 - 6
24. FNS 0 2 2 - 4
UIR 0 2 2 - 4
26. Yugoslavia 2 0 1 - 3
Belgium 1 1 1 - 3
Cuba 1 1 1 - 3
Pakistan 1 0 2 - 3
Brazil 0 1 2 - 3
Ireland 0 0 3 - 3
32. Armenia and Georgia 1 1 0 - 2
Ethiopia 1 0 1 - 2
Kenya 0 1 1 - 2
Azerbaijan 0 0 2 - 2
Ghana 0 0 2 - 2
Greece 0 0 2 - 2
Nigeria 0 0 2 - 2
Portugal 0 0 2 - 2
Spain 0 0 2 - 2
41. Libya 1 0 0 - 1
Philippines 0 1 0 - 1
Arab Federation 0 0 1 - 1
Burma 0 0 1 - 1
Mexico 0 0 1 - 1

The Remaining Nations Attending were Algeria, Basra, Burgundy, Cameroon, Ceylon, Chad, Congo, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Dutch Antilles, East Turkistan, Iceland, Indochina, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Jordan, Liberia, Liechtenstein, Malaysia, Mali, Monaco, Morocco, Nepal, Palestine, Senegal, Syria, Tanzania, Uganda, and Zaire.

*United States, Turkey and Egypt withdrew from Johannesburg 1964.

OOC: The United States participated in the World Cup back then and had been a member of the RL FIFA for about 50 years at this time...

Italia 1966
New Nations: Scotland, Australia, West Indies

A: 4. Italy, 5. Mexico, 9. Korea, 15. Poland
B: 7. France, 8. Bulgaria, 10. Scotland, 12. Nigeria
C: 3. Brazil, 6. Russia, 11. Spain, 14. Australia
D: 1. FNS, 2. England, 13. Belgium, 16. West Indies

Champions: Federation of South American Nations (Uruguay won in 1930, FNS won in 1950 and 1966).
2nd Place: England.
3rd Place: Brazil.
4th Place: Italy.

Italia 1966
New Nations: Scotland, Australia, West Indies

A: 4. Italy, 5. Mexico, 9. Korea, 15. Poland
B: 7. France, 8. Bulgaria, 10. Scotland, 12. Nigeria
C: 3. Brazil, 6. Russia, 11. Spain, 14. Australia
D: 1. FNS, 2. England, 13. Belgium, 16. West Indies

Champions: Federation of South American Nations (Uruguay won in 1930, FNS won in 1950 and 1966).
2nd Place: England.
3rd Place: Brazil.
4th Place: Italy.

Go South America Go!

1 Silver Metal. OH well. *SHrugs* Who gets the 1974 Olympics, or is that not voted on yet?

The Next Olympics up for bidding after the warp should be 1976 for both Winter and Summer. The Next FIFA World Cup for Bidding would be for 1974, maybe 1978...

The 1972 Olympic Games will be held in the Winter by Cortina d' Ampezzo in Italy and in the Summer by Mexico City in Mexico...

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I am kind of amazed we had a 64 Summer Olympics, considering most of Europe was at war at the time, East Asia was a mess, Central Asia was a mess and Egypt had been sterilized.but on the other hand, If I were an Athlete, leaving the Northern Hemisphere would have looked good to me.

China had an Olympic team!?

China did have an Olympic team entered with the help of the Germans and so on for 1964... I guess the South African trip must have helped a lot of other nations as well, but the American, Egyptian and Turkish delegations each only had a placard carrier and a flag carrier. The American Media also sent some people to Jo'burg as well...

Aka, they weren't in the country when it happened.

How are the winners and such chosen for E-20. Never got told.

Wewt! I pwnt in the Olympics!

Anyways, Uhh... I guess Innsbruck and Koln for Winter and Summer? They got off pretty light...

Well it won't be in Manila any time soon.

We propose Belgrade (Yugoslavia) for the Winter Olympics And Athens (Greece) for the Summer

Yekaterinburg (Siberia) for the Winter Olympics and Naples (Italy) for summer.

Teheran for the summer Olympics.

OOC: wow, I'm surprise UIR tid with FNS for medals

Osaka, Japan for Expo 1970 will begin in Early March and last to October of 1970.
Plans for other World's Fairs are coming very soon... Philadelphia (for 1976), Beirut and several others are possible in the near future.

OOC: It would be looking likely that the Winter Games may need a few non-European bids to keep things interesting...if possible.

The 1976 Olympic Games will be awarded in May/June of 1970...

Winter Olympics of 1968 Medal Count:

Scandia 11 9 5 25
Germany 6 8 9 23
Russia 4 4 1 9
France 4 3 2 9
Netherlands 3 3 3 9
Switzerland 0 2 5 7
Huron 2 2 2 6
Italy 4 0 0 4
Czechoslovakia 1 2 1 4
New England 0 2 1 3
Belarus 0 1 1 2
Poland 0 1 1 2
Ukraine 0 1 1 2
Romania 0 0 1 1


Summer Olympics of 1968 Medal Count:

Germany 14 23 24 61
Russia 20 20 16 56
CSA 17 10 11 38
Hungary 10 11 11 32
Japan 15 7 8 30
New England 11 5 7 23
Columbia 10 6 7 22
Australia 7 8 7 22
Poland 6 5 11 22
Scandia 5 8 6 19
France 8 2 8 18
Italy 3 4 11 18
Great Britain 5 7 4 16
Huron 5 6 5 16
Romania 4 6 6 16
Ukraine 5 4 5 14
Czechoslovakia 7 2 4 13
Netherlands 4 3 3 10
Bulgaria 2 4 4 10
East Africa 3 5 2 10
UIR 4 2 3 9
Texas 3 3 3 9
Belarus 1 3 4 8
Central America 2 2 3 7
Yugoslavia 2 2 1 5
China 0 2 3 5
Switzerland 0 1 4 5
Armenia and Georgia 1 1 2 4
Cuba 0 4 0 4
Korea 0 3 1 4
Brazil 0 1 3 4
FNS 1 0 2 3
Indochina 1 0 2 3
Ethiopia 1 1 0 2
Azerbaijan 1 0 1 2
Libya 1 0 1 2
Belgium 0 1 1 2
Nigeria 0 1 0 1
Greece 0 1 0 1
South Africa 0 1 0 1
West Indies 0 1 0 1
India 0 0 1 1
Senegal 0 0 1 1

The UIR Olympic commitee puts foward Tashkent for the Winter Games, and secretly congratulates the UIR team on beating the Indians

1970 World Cup in Mexico/Central America (May-July)... World's Fair in Osaka, Japan (March-November)... Selections for the 1976 Summer Olympics in May/June...
World Student Games in Madrid, Spain (Summer) and Innsbruck, Germany (Winter).
FIBA World Championships: Brazil is host nation...

No medals for Quebec? :(

How are the number of medals chosen?

OOC: I would normally base the Olympic results on RL, but with a few RP changes...
The World Cups are RP...

IC: This is the final few months before the selection for 1976's Olympic Venues...

(I see.)

The Philippines offers Manila as a Summer Olympics location for 1976. The Winter Olympics can be done in one of the Northern Islands. (It's a little tropical in the Philippines for the Winter Olympics.)

So do I get any extra tourism points as I'm hosting the World Cup?

OOC: I do not recall if you do get the extra points for the World Cup, but you definitely will in 1972 for the Summer Olympics...

Group A: Bulgaria, Mexico, Germany, Costa Rica
Group B: Italy, FNS, Korea, Russia
Group C: Brazil, England, Switzerland, UIR
Group D: France, South Africa, Czechoslovakia, New England

Knock-Out Stage:
Bulgaria 4 - 0 South Africa, Italy 3 - 1 England, Brazil 3 - 2 (2-2 after 90) FNS, France 2 - 1 Mexico.
Medal Round:
Bulgaria 0 - 2 Italy, Brazil 3 - 1 France.
3rd Place:
Bulgaria 3- 1 France
Championship Match:
Italy 3 - 2 Brazil.

Final Order of Finish
1: Italy, 2: Brazil, 3:Bulgaria, 4: France, 5: FNS, 6: Mexico, 7: England, 8: South Africa, 9: Germany, 10: Korea, 11: Czechoslovakia, 12: Switzerland, 13: Russia, 14: New England, 15: UIR, 16: Costa Rica.

The 1974 World Cup Finals are going to be held in France...

Winter Olympics for Calgary, Alberta, Huron (North America). Summer Games for Naples, Italy.

Just a quick note, for the World Cup, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua play separately, but in the Olympics they are together as the USCA.

The Rumanian National Football Team steps up training in an effort to make it into the next World Cup.