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Today, the Australian Military has landed in a sudden three-prong attack on Somalia, the military is sweeping through the country, using a blitzkreig tactic, forcing every man-woman and child to report for registration and humanitarian aid.

This is part of a previously covered code name; Operation Humanity. They are extremely violent and are driving through to the capitals on a mission of total conquest. Due to the sudden surprise the Somalian Invasion the clans are unable to react and are being split up and overpowered in rapid succession. With no military power to defend it self the nation is expected to fall to Australia's newest General, General Ironside.

Humanitarian missions are already being set up in Somalian captured territory, the people are reacting very well to the aid and sudden wealth they are coming into from the Australian government who is planning to build schools and fix many disease problems. This humanitarian mission is expected to increase the literacy rate by 40% in 5 years, life expectancy by 20 years in 10 years.

It is determined that Somalia will improve rapidly as Australian businesses set up in Somalia and open a soon to be thriving port for Australia's intrests.

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Today, the Australian Military has landed in a sudden three-prong attack on Somalia, the military is sweeping through the country, using a blitzkreig tactic, forcing every man-woman and child to report for registration and humanitarian aid.

This is part of a previously covered code name; Operation Humanity. They are extremely violent and are driving through to the capitals on a mission of total conquest. Due to the sudden surprise the Somalian Invasion the clans are unable to react and are being split up and overpowered in rapid succession. With no military power to defend it self the nation is expected to fall to Australia's newest General, General Ironside.

Humanitarian missions are already being set up in Somalian captured territory, the people are reacting very well to the aid and sudden wealth they are coming into from the Australian government who is planning to build schools and fix many disease problems. This humanitarian mission is expected to increase the literacy rate by 40% in 5 years, life expectancy by 20 years in 10 years.

It is determined that Somalia will improve rapidly as Australian businesses set up in Somalia and open a soon to be thriving port for Australia's intrests.

OOC: Points that need to be made:

#1 Somalia does have a military.

#2 Australia does not have landing craft or sea transports.

#3 You can't just 'conquer' territory in one post. You have to RP out the battle.

#4 What forces are being used? This is a -very- poor post, with absolutely no description of any kind.

OOC: But mind you, you have to give him credit for wanting to take over the worst place on the earth. The place where the Americans were booted out quite easily back in the day... That is at least a brave thing to do!

OOC: But mind you, you have to give him credit for wanting to take over the worst place on the earth. The place where the Americans were booted out quite easily back in the day... That is at least a brave thing to do!

OOC: It's ridiculous. He's put absolutely no effort into this game so far. It started out with him trying to RENAME Australia, then moved on to turning garbage into crude oil, and now he's invading and conquering Somalia in 1 post.

OOC: Ok you got me, $18 mil for military....so what they have crap, their is no national power and leader. This is essentially a turkey shoot...only its more then easier then that.

For number 2, I've been planning this for two years, trust me...I've trained my troops and built up for this. Its not a sudden thing.

For #3, since there is almost no resistance (because this is disguised as a humanitarian mission), I can slip in more and do things, but no I didn't RP a battle because I haven't conquered any city yet. Villages don't usually resist from sudden ambushes and espically not when showered with gifts and money, when conquering a major place or clan I'll have to fight, but by showing the lines of progression I clearly haven't staked a claim in the area.

For #4, its my entire main force I prepped up, but I don't want to spare the thread the hard numbers, but its 3 armies, so essentially 150,000 total troops.

Also Somalia is listed as an NPC, their ability to fight back is at my OWN choosing, and with such a poor populace and poor GDP they cannot mount a instanteous counter-attack so soon. This is a forward push, they are taken by surprise, the clans will learn of it and will fight back in the traditional standard as they do.

If your still reading this, this is an earth 21C post, and Somalia is not under Russian aid (I believe Ethiopia is still) and it has no ties to USA or any other nation I need to contact about such a thing. Though Somalia IS going to fall, they simply cannot muster anything against such a overwhelming force as trained and skilled as mine for the time being. Ethiopia I wouldn't dare touch as long as Russia's aid is extended to them. Eritrea is next, along with Kenya..

We're doing them a favor, they won't resist till later.

OOC: You can't hide tanks and planes as a humanitarian mission. And how are you getting them there? - And yes, this IS sudden. There's no build up to it at all.

What is your problem!? You want force listings and specifics? How about giving a guy a chance! I am saying they landed...TODAY. They are moving through, I didn't say they have taken Somalia, they are planning to though. I'm not going to spam a HUGE amount of data just so you can sit back and make fun of me more.

One...Australia DOES have forces to land an operation CURRENTLY. I think after 4 years they should be able to have a good enough military to do this. Although the total number is only 150,000 troops they will be able to bring the nation under Australian control, let me RP the stupid battles and actually pick my targets out and look into them more.

So take a chill pill and let me actually WRITE before you pounce on it.

OOC: Like I said, Australia lacks the amount of landing craft to pull this kind of operation off. What you listed there is enough ships to deliver.. MAYBE 1,100 or so soldiers to a beach. Landing ships on the beaches of Somalia and then 'overpowering' the locals cannot be disguised as a humanitarian effort.

OOC: It's ridiculous. He's put absolutely no effort into this game so far. It started out with him trying to RENAME Australia, then moved on to turning garbage into crude oil, and now he's invading and conquering Somalia in 1 post.

OOC: You need to losen up buddy... it's just a game. Sure there are restrictions, but let the mods take care of it... just have fun with it.

He can invade Somalia... although I agree there should be some build up...

but I don't think it's too unrealistic to say that Australia could whoop up on a little African country.

Xeno, instead of bashing him, give him some hints... you've been doing this for a long time, and you know how to RP, but I'm guess Asbena is relatively new (but then again so am I). If you won't be constructive, I guess I will have to.

My advice to Asbena is to have an introductory post of your troop build up on the east coast of Africa.

Then once you have done that, you could grab Somalia as an NPC, then have a reasonable invasion.

So far, to me it looks pretty good. He's got a heck of a fleet there... and if he called for international support (realistically from the US, Canada, GB) then he would even be more overwhelming.

OOC: It's ridiculous. He's put absolutely no effort into this game so far. It started out with him trying to RENAME Australia, then moved on to turning garbage into crude oil, and now he's invading and conquering Somalia in 1 post.

Ok, I didn't know at first this was a real-roleplay of nations for it, I apologized and said I didn't know. I was told and I haven't done anything too outlandish for Australia, though this is my first action of the kind. Now...how about reading the threads...I know I posted several about my troops training for it and how I would do this. It's not spur of the moment.

You also mocked my plants, which are real and they exist. Jeeze.

Now... for your LAST post, I am NOT landing them all there at once! LOGISTICS SAY ITS IMPOSSIBLE! With my current ships I can do around 300 troops PER ship. I don't have enough ships to land such a large force all of a sudden.

The troops that are landing today is 3960 from my surface ships. Now give me a damn chance.

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Gene, I see your post, I'm not new, but I don't like being rushed either. Though 350 total ships for my entire force is high unless you count logistics (which you KNOW I do), I'll not be landing all 3 armies for some time. (Approx 2-3 months NS time.)

OOC: That's cool with me... :)

Thank you, I'm glad. I'm currently working on the IC action post, not the IC overview post (aka introduction post). If anyone wants a list of my ships and stuff, I'll post them elsewhere, but I don't like being attacked like that for going on an overview of the operation, which I DID mention several times already (but I didn't give it a name till just now), and DID say it would be disguised as a humanitarian mission and SHOULD be approved of by the world...with controlled media releases of course.

OOC: Just a note, Australia has a population of around 20 million, not exactly a large pool to chose from to man an imperialistic military. Also, theres no way in hell Australia has the shipping power to support 150,000 men oversea's, granted I understand it'll take you 2-3 months to land them all, once landed you won't have the shipping to keep them supplied. Do you realize just how many thousands of tons it takes to keep single division moving, let alone whole armies? Its a stratch, but I guess Australia can take down Somalia, although it will be a huge strain on your military and economy, and your going to have to use a lot less than 150,000 men.

OOC: I really dont care whether or not you take over Somalia and how. Only one question occupies the mind: WHY :confused:

I'll remind you this is 150,000 for the ENTIRE operation, America used considerably more in Korea in total. Operation Humanity is the CONQUEST of Africa. Here's the break down though.

10,000 troops in three weeks to capture Somalia
7,000 troops in one week (routed from Somalia) to capture Eritrea
40,000 troops in one month to capture Kenya
30,000 troops in one month (+ routed from Kenya) to capture Tanzania
5,000 troops to capture Rwanda after Tanzania
5,000 troops to capture Burundi
13,000 troops to capture Uganda
30,000 troops to take Madagascar

For the end the time table is not constant, but I expect Somalia to fall in three NS weeks, and Eritrea to fall within one month after Somalia. Then it will be a period of piece until Kenya's troops arrive a month after Eritrea and so on and so forth.

My opening force in Somalia is just 3960 men which is basically 4/10ths of my entire force. So I don't exactly have many, but then again its not like I am going up a nation that can defend itself, its not even capable of having a national leader!

OOC: SOmalia and Eritrea maybe, but after that no way. Kenya? Tanzania? No, especially with yout rying to hold down Somalia and Eritrea, mind you you'll be doing this without air support as you don't have carriers.9At least I'm pretty sure Australia's last carrier was decomed) And like I said, you do not have the shipping to supply 150,000 men, and yes I realize its for the entire operation. Also I hope your talking 150,000 men total, not 150,000 combat troops? You can take Somalia and Eritrea, its a stretch, but you can do it, but there is no way Australia can support any more than that.

Edit:
Also note, Eritrea does have an organized and decently well equipped military, a fairly large one at that, with tens of thousands(100,000+) of recently demobilized(like 10 years ago) soldiers who were demobilized after a recent war.

OOC: Yes 150,000 including logistics, but I'll RP more later, though here's my RP post about the landing day:

IC:
On a particularly hazy morning off the coast of Somalia, a large naval force was split up into three landing groups. Each one consisted of around 20 landing ships, several missile frigates and cargo ships that were being used by the military. The ships carried the Australian flag and they were moving slowly towards the beaches of Somalia.
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On the General's Flagship: HMAS Australia
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A young officer reported to the bridge and saluted the General and gave him a message, "Sir, all orders have been recieved and we are currently awaiting daybreak before the attack begins, as you ordered, sir!"

A man in his 50's chuckled softly, "Ahh, yes. Thank you officer. May I ask a personal question?"

"Of course."

"Do you like the smell of gun powder in the morning?" grinned the general. The stunned officer smirked and nodded, thinking to himself, "Man...why me...this doesn't seem fair."

The general stood up, making a dramatic pose, "All ships! Begin Operation Kill-the-son-of-the---, I mean...Operation Humanity!" The general was slightly embarrassed, he was young at heart and a little eccentric, but the man did prove himself at Cresswell and managed to move from there into the higher ranks.
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Several Tobruk-class landing ships closed in on the beaches, they were laid down at the start of the planning just two years ago. Although the sister ship is over twenty years old they were produced in the same two year period that their predessor was.

The ships were just like their predessors in every way except for updated communications. They all held all 18 tanks and 40 apcs, which would be used in the deployment operation phase. Three would go to to each of the landing points and would land. They would drop off 2700 troops in total, with another 1260 from 6 Light Troop transport ships. For a total of 3960 troops that would land in the initial phases.

Along with support from missile frigates and three submarines, the opening of the operation would be done as a blitzkrieg movement. For alongside the combat ships, chinooks would take cargo from the humanitarian aid ships and drop it into the villages from above, helping the soldiers prove their point they were on a mission of reform.
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At 9:20 am the ships landed and stormed the beaches, the heavy armor of the old australian forces would be more then enough to stop the Somalian resistance if there was to be any. Though General Ironside gave explicit orders to shoot any aggressors to make their point clear.

The troops moblized as rapidly as possible, all their previous training allowed them to be prepared easily for the operation, by 12:30 pm the forces were on the move after 3 hours of setting up and gasing up the vehicles. They radioed back to the ships as the landing ships retreated, moving back across the ocean to pick up more troops. Continued arrivals of troops would arrive every 2 days to provide an established force and reenforcement when the troops fell back if under resistance.
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In a village in Somalia
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"Man...Johnny, look at these people."

"I know...they are so skinny."

"Where are the old men and elders?"

"I think since the life expectancy is around 47 years, they died off long before they got old."

"Damn....I think we are doing good here, no matter what I used to think, I'd barely be able to see my son grow up if I lived here, and under these conditions...this is sick. I never thought a third world nation would be like this."

Soldiers talked back and forth on the radio, emotionally unprepared for the full effect of the real life, though they had similuations and tests of what it would be like, nothing is more horrible then reality at its cruelest, people starving, living in unsafe housing, eating dirty maggoted food, drinking brown colored water. Nothing can prepare the human mind for such things, if someone wasn't shocked, they have already lost their humanity.

The troops did not encounter much resistance that they couldn't handle in the villages, the people were very feeble as is. Chances are the clan leaders lived in relative luxury while the people were left to feed on the scraps, but even then it would not be considered a large rich-poor divide, the entire country was poor. The price for the operation would cost over ten times the GDP for the entire nation!

Though not all soldiers were met with joy or safety upon coming into the towns....
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First day casualities: 12 injured/sick 0 killed
10 were sick from viewing the people to a point of trama and had to be removed.
1 person drank the water and had some food when offered by a village girl, he now suffers from severe sickness
1 person was bitten by a poisonous creature and was admitted to a temporary hospital

Casaulties of Somalia
70 Injures, 20 killings

Mostly reports of angry villagers trying to attack the troops who were forcing them to get aid and a misinterpretation of the language caused a massacre of 20 villagers who attacked after a translator spoke incorrectly, "We will eat you." Instead of "We will feed you." appears to be the result of this. The translator will not be court-marashalled, but has been distraught over his mistake.

Land under Australian control, around 40 miles of territory around the landing points.
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OOC: Good post... realistic IMO.

The only thing I don't agree with is that I would think one or two of you men would have wounds from the small fighting... but then that's your perogative to choose your own casualties in an RPG.

OOC: Good post... realistic IMO.

The only thing I don't agree with is that I would think one or two of you men would have wounds from the small fighting... but then that's your perogative to choose your own casualties in an RPG.

The people are still under the impression they are good...aside from the massacre when the soldiers opened up with machine guns on people....

Thing is, the clan leaders would have the guns and are the dangerous one's they will be poorly equiped, but they can cause a lot of damage to our less experienced troops.

(/action rolls dice)
(!r 25 3)
(15 successes total)
(Rate of successes, no deaths, very few casaulties)

Lol. :)

OOC: lol... ;) that would actually be a cool way to record casualties.

France deplores the actions of Australia and demands the cessation of all hostilities against fellow African nations. This attack is to be reported in full to the UN, to ensure that peace and the sovereignty of nations are preserved.

OOC: Please take note. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10508615#post10508615

I'll remind you this is 150,000 for the ENTIRE operation, America used considerably more in Korea in total. Operation Humanity is the CONQUEST of Africa. Here's the break down though.

10,000 troops in three weeks to capture Somalia
7,000 troops in one week (routed from Somalia) to capture Eritrea
40,000 troops in one month to capture Kenya
30,000 troops in one month (+ routed from Kenya) to capture Tanzania
5,000 troops to capture Rwanda after Tanzania
5,000 troops to capture Burundi
13,000 troops to capture Uganda
30,000 troops to take Madagascar

For the end the time table is not constant, but I expect Somalia to fall in three NS weeks, and Eritrea to fall within one month after Somalia. Then it will be a period of piece until Kenya's troops arrive a month after Eritrea and so on and so forth.

My opening force in Somalia is just 3960 men which is basically 4/10ths of my entire force. So I don't exactly have many, but then again its not like I am going up a nation that can defend itself, its not even capable of having a national leader!
OOC: I could see how with much preparation Australia could conquer Somalia and maybe another African country, but 7 African countries seems a little much. I would suggest sticking with Somalia for a while because I don't see how Australia could realistically control this many countries.

OOC: I could see how with much preparation Australia could conquer Somalia and maybe another African country, but 7 African countries seems a little much. I would suggest sticking with Somalia for a while because I don't see how Australia could realistically control this many countries.

OOC: I agree.

IC:

Israel commends Australia for its noble undertaking to free east africa!

Russia is infuriated at Australia's disruption of its humanitarian programs in Somalia. We were actually close to accomplishing a few things and then we are disrupted. This will not be taken lightly and Russia will back any resolution to condemn and punish Australia.

Its been a few NS weeks....time for update, and informational RP post soon.

Australian Casualities, 250 men killed, 1750 injured.
Troop Count of Australian Forces is 150% higher then expected to conquer Somalia, 15,000.
Somalians Clans have attacked at full force on the positions of the troops and are using guerilla warfare to harass Australian forces.

Somalian Casualites, Unknown - Presumed 12000+ killed, 20,000+ injured.


65% of Somalia has been captured, with the exceptions being clan strongholds and military centers.

OOC: Somalia isn't even really a country. It's one of those cobbled together fiefdom federations.

Hence why I said clans, but they have a SMALL military for some reason or another that the CIA says spends around $18 mil on, though they wouldn't give up the land easily now. Hope the results look fair...

OOC: You can probaly cut Aussie dead in half with Somalian dead being higher, other than that its fine. Real casualties will come after when you trying to hold the country down.

Done, and updated. Might do RP post tomorrow.

this isn't even my rp and yes I am interrupting your thread, but I just have to

say that you are a moron if you think that you can capture eastern africa in a

matter of months with so few troops. The US couldn't even hold onto Somalia in

the 90's. Have you heard of Rwanda? Its had a Civil War and has a

powerful guerilla army - you can't capture these countries with 10,000 men

each, never ever. You probably need some 150,000 to take and hold each

country, and that is no exaggeration. Don't be a moron, cmon, ban me.

You said it yourself... please try and be more respectable.

Huh Gene? What do you mean?

Huh Gene? What do you mean?

I was talking to Titicus... he needs to have more respect for other people's RPs.

Oh yes...X_X

That is really rude, but the conditions are different then one embassy and the methods...

OOC: Once again, Asbena this involves you http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=471094

OOC: Even though Titicus was somewhat rude for interrupting like that, I must agree with him that Australia could not conquer this many countries. These countries would not submit this easily with only 10,000 troops in their countries.

Its been increased 150% and its still overkill I think....its not like its a hard nation to beat.

Its been increased 150% and its still overkill I think....its not like its a hard nation to beat.

[ooc: you're forgetting citizens and the average joe along the street. Most of the people who fought against the Americans in Mogadishu were civvies, not soldiers...]

OOC: Its reasonable...I conquered it, now I have to hold it.

IC:

From the Newspaper:

"After conquering the nation of Somalia the military immediately began the second phase of Operation Humanity. This phase is clearly the main focus of the entire operation. The massive cargo ships which have been stationed off the coast of Somalia are sending in massive amounts of materials into the cities and towns of Somalia. The soldiers which had fought a bloody battle against clan leaders are now working incredibly hard to fix Somalia. This effort is going under a system of restoration for the entire country to ease the wounds and repair the state as a whole."

Exerpt from Military Documents

"In the second phase of the operation, the construction of high-tech power plants and services to control and end problems will sweep across the entire country to turn Somalia into a decent nation with plenty of power.

The construction and operation of clean small clinics for medical concerns will be completed in 2 months, until then all health care is currently being provided by Somali medical staff, though they are recieving clean and brand new tools, more sanitizers and a supply of medical blood for transfusions.

Australian businesses are being set up in Somalia to have stable non-nomadic farms. Crop rotation is going to be a key role in this. The workers do not seem to understand this practice in its full effect and although it is not expected to take full effect until the harvest. The result of better crops and better harvests will surely win the people over.

Small schools are being organized by the military to begin teaching volunteer students in subjects like reading and writing, math, history, business and farming. This small effort is expected to plant the seeds of learning and serve as a fresh start to a troubled nation.

As for water and food concerns, a large supply of water purifiers are being distributed to the towns to clean the water for drinking. This is being aided by cleansing the water and ponds of bugs and bacteria.

At a national level, the military is taking full control of Somalia's currency and has wiped out the Somalila Shillings for Australian currency and is regulating Australian currency and minimum wage laws on all business owners. Though as a back up, the Australian government is subsidizing the workers and is covering their costs. Minimum wage however is based upon type of work, not universal worker payments. A field worker will recieve less then a skilled factory worker, but the amount for a field worker is temporarily increased along with the factory worker. This is meant to give the Somilians a better value and feel more important, though at a closer look, nothing is really changing except their currency is worth much more and that they are all recieving higher pay.

Construction of a nuclear power plant is planned in Somalia at a later date, around 2010, if Australia is able to modernize the country. As civil rights are now being added, morale is very high, the effects of medicial, educational and industrial reforms are apparent and very easy to see how they are improving the quality of life in Somalia.

Such things are, removing the threat of bacterial and protozoal diarrhea, and typhoid fever, malaria and dengue fever and already completely eliminating schistosomiasis in areas with water purifiers. Combined with health care the Australian soldiers are being seen as miracle men from Allah.

Constructions of Muslim temples are being seen in Somalia also, to show that Australia has no plan on converting the people's religious beliefs. The plan is to enhance the religious church to a key center in life.

One of the key problems in Somalia is on the road to being fixed, the high infant mortality rate and very low life expectancy is trying to be rapidly fixed by introducing clean conditions and proper medical facilities to make life easier for all.

If Somalia can be fixed and made into a powerful nation under Australia then Australia will have done its part and made the world better, but will make this crusade against inhuman conditions an effective plan for Australia to continue on.

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"In other news...the Australian Government announces that two more nations have fallen under Australia's control. The nation of Puntland now ceases to exist, and the nation of Somaliland. The complete erradication of the nations is assured not to be missed at all. The two nations had received no political recognition at all until now.

The destruction of the two regimes comes with the fall of Mohamud Muse Hersi and Dahir Riyale Kahin. Also competing warlords have been shut down thanks to the brave Australian troops!"

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OOC: There it is.