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Iran (21C)

Alt Aus 2
26-02-2006, 17:30
The Islamic Republic of Iran

Supreme Leader(Faqih)-Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

President-Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Population-68,000,000

Military:

Army: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/ground-equipment.htm

Navy: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/ships.htm

Airforce: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/airforce-equipment.htm

Missiles: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/missile.htm
Safehaven2
01-03-2006, 02:11
The army is in the process of replacing all 2,000 of its tanks with newer Russian T-90's while an unkown number of Kornet ATGM's have also been purchased to furnish the Iranian military and Pasdaran.The airforce is replacing all of its fighters except for the Su-25's, SU-24's and Shafaq's with the new Russian SU-47 Berkut.
Cenanan
04-03-2006, 00:45
Due to the location of Iran, the CBSS would be quite interested in investing. While we do not have near the funding as Russia we still believe that we could be a valuable trade ally. We believe that a deal between our countries could easily be found.
The Macabees
04-03-2006, 06:23
Communiqué to Tehran
Iran is widely known as one of the most important oil controlling nations in the Middle East, and although it may not have the largest reserves, politically it does, since Iran is the center network in middle east petroleum export. That said, Spain doesn't have a suitable petroleum main import nation, yet, and we are looking to Iran to provide for what we need. In response, we will provide what you need. Your current military refurbishment could be done much better, we believe, and with your help this 'refurbishment' will be mutually beneficial - one, it would give us oil and increase production rates, and for you, it would arm you. In other words, we are prepare to give you what X amount of barrels of petroleum would cost in terms of Leopard 2E tanks and Eurofighter Typhoons, both local projects, although they were done in correlation with the Germans. Nevertheless, since they are local we have all rights pertaining to their sales. We reassure you that the Leopard 2E is superior to both the Russian T-90 and the German Leopard 2A6, boasting more armour than the latter, with the same powerful gun, and better electronics. Understandably, your logistics are centered towards Soviet ordnance, and we are prepared to take on the full cost of switching Iranian logistics to a more 'western' style throughout a period of three to five years, as long as Iran promises to deliver the proportional oil to Spain.

Should this be agreed upon there is no doubt that Spain can deliver further ordnance, and other types of armament, including rifles and such. To any extent, perhaps the Spaniards and Iranians would become some sort of military partners. Who knows what the future may hold? Nevertheless, we leave this option open to you.

[OOC: I want to set up some kind of clandestine meeting between one my head generals and one of your head politicians, without the government of Spain knowing, since it will concern Iranian 'allegiances' during the Spanish coup d'etat which will happen soon. I was thinking perhaps having one of my generals go to Tehran and send an Iranian courier he pays a lot of money to, give a message to one of your head politicians, and they meet in a restaurant or something.]
Alt Aus 2
04-03-2006, 13:53
Response to Madrid:
Your offer is extremely enticing. While western weaponry is widely accepted as being superior to Russian weaponry, especially in the electronics department, Iran has never before had an oppurtunity to secure such weaponry. Iran will take up Spain on its offer and will immediatly place a hold on weapons shipments from Russia. The Leapard 2E will became our new MBT but the Eurofighter will have to share a spot with the Su-47, which is a far more manuverable even if it isn't as electronicaly advanced as the Eurofighter. All help with switching over the logisitics would be very much apreciated, and along with that we request help with training and the implementation of modern tactics with these new weapons. In return Iran will of course provide Spain with a near limitless source of oil and natural gas, perhaps this is the begining of a new partnership.

[OOC: I like that idea, getting rid of the socialists again?]


Due to the location of Iran, the CBSS would be quite interested in investing. While we do not have near the funding as Russia we still believe that we could be a valuable trade ally. We believe that a deal between our countries could easily be found.

Iran would be more than willing to open up trade relations with the CBSS. Our markets are open for the CBSS, we export the obvious oil and gas but we also produce large amounts of petrochemicals and agricultural products that the CBSS might be interested in. What we are most interested in though, is investment. We have several developing industries that could use foriegn investment, and while the CBSS might not be able to pour int he funding America could it could still give the Iranian economy a little boost. Industries like our developing autmobile industry, machinery and chemicals. The CBSS will get much back from its investments, the Iranian economy has done nothing but grow over the past decade(OOC:Between 2000 and 04 the Iranian economy has grown by around 5% yearly, so since nothing major has happened since then to disrupt this I'm assuming this has continued to 2009) and any investments made now will pay large dividends in the future.

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On the homefront the Iranian tax code has been completely thrown out. A thick and confusing mess the Iranian government had been trying for years to try to revise, it has finally been decided to just throw it out and rebuild a new, simpler code from scratch. It is expected to take up to a year to build a new code and untill then the old one will have to remain in place but once the new one is in it will make foriegn investment much easier while also making taxation much more efficient and easier to understand.
The Macabees
04-03-2006, 16:52
Communiqué to Tehran
Most promising! The first shipment of Leopard 2Es will arrive in eight months, composed of roughly three hundred vehicles, while another two hundred and eighteen will arrive five months after this, providing Iran with a total of 518 pieces, which would replace all the M47s, M60s, Chieftans and Zulfiqars currently in use, and thus getting rid of the country's most obsolete armoured cars. In eighteen months another shipment of three hundred Leopard 2Es will arrive, replacing all Type 59s and some of the T-54/55s. Further news on replacing the T-62s, T-72s and the rest of the T-54s will come in twenty-four months. We are looking at a time slot of around four to five years to completely replace all of the Iranian main battle tanks. [OOC: Once the socialist government is removed and Juan Carlos II put into power, there will be a nation wide project to increase industrial capacity in Spain, meaning the orders will be fulfilled faster.] As for the Eurofighter Typhoon, we will simply replace the western aircraft, or American aircraft in Iran's inventory, meaning a full 150 Eurofighter Typhoons will be shipped within fourteen months. For now, we will have to be content with simply replacing Iran's ordnance, and perhaps then we can think about increasing it.

[OOC: You want to do the roleplay on another thread? Other than the opening post it shouldn't be too long, which just dialogue.]
Sel Appa
04-03-2006, 20:37
OOC: Oooh nice evil plan. This is what the RP was made for: good, huge posts that I don't want to read, but will...soon.
Safehaven2
06-03-2006, 00:13
OOC: Ya, thats a good idea

Response:
That timetable is just fine, considering the size of the orders we've placed on you. For the armor, you do not need to replace all of our armored units, we are planning on cutting th number of tanks down to 1,500 to free up money to properly maintain these new weapons. We do have two further requests from Spain, one that Spain train our military and two that Spain help modernize our military production facilties.
The Macabees
06-03-2006, 00:51
[OOC: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10533069#post10533069

Any training will have to come post coup d'etat, which should be short..just a couple of RP days long.]
Naktan
06-03-2006, 17:22
On the behalf of the EU, we'd just like for you to remind us how we resolved the nuclear issue back in 2005-2006...
Clan Smoke Jaguar
06-03-2006, 18:19
OOC: Spain doesn't have the capability to produce that many tanks that quickly. The total RL production is about 240 vehicles in 5 years. While you can step that up a bit, you should not be producing them at ten times that rate. Heck, the French and Germans can't produce their tanks at that rate either. I don't think the Spanish Industry can quite afford that. I'd say it should at least take 3.5-4 years to deliver that many.

I'm also not entirely sure that the contract with KMW would allow you to sell them without German permission. License-built does not necessarily mean you have the right to sell to other nations.
The Macabees
06-03-2006, 21:58
OOC: The Leopard 2E is an indegenous project. The Leopard 2A6 is in fact a cooperative project between Spain and Germany, meaning both countries have full rights to sell to whomever they wish. The same with the Eurofighter Typhoon - I'm really not sure about the G36E, but I'm assuming it is because the G36E is a Spanish cooperative project with H&K to replace the CETME Modelo 58 - but that's one reason I didn't offer the rifle, because I wasn't really sure. Besides, the Americans just tried to block a Spanish armament sale to Venezuela, and Spain just said that they'll swap the American electronics with Spanish electronics, so there's really not much impeding Spanish armaments sales. And although, yes, perhaps that was a little too quick, perhaps the deal should be finalized within four years for those 300 vehicles, even though that's 6.25 tanks every month, and I'm sure Spain can do better than that without becoming broke - taking into consideration that the Spanish Army received the highest 'grade' of all other NATO forces in Bosnia in '92, and have the second largest fleet tonnelage wise in Europe. These are irrelevent to tank production, but I want to get rid of any illusion that Spain is a poor country - to be frank, Spain is the fastest growing nation in Europe both economically and through population [not counting Muslim immigration into Spain]. But yes, you're right, German production would probably outstrip that of Spain, but that's why I'm going to have a coup d'etat really soon. :) In any case, if I assume 10 tanks produced per month for Iran, that would come out to 480 tanks in four years, which I guess is a good number. I don't really think the Spanish socialist government would really sell more to Iran anyways. And then added to that, once the coup d'etat does take place, most of the production will be revolving around the Spanish mechanized corps do be built.
Naktan
11-03-2006, 06:23
SIC: Would the Iranian government be supportive of a coalition to oust Australia from Somalia? We only request tacit support, although economic, political, and military support are also in order. [ooc: pending its resolution...] France might be able to broker some kind of deal with the Iranian government to permit the IAEA to allow the peaceful development of nuclear energy in Iran and some other military incentives in return for a more cooperative government, in terms of its domestic markets and support against Australia.
Safehaven2
11-03-2006, 17:57
SIC: Would the Iranian government be supportive of a coalition to oust Australia from Somalia? We only request tacit support, although economic, political, and military support are also in order. [ooc: pending its resolution...] France might be able to broker some kind of deal with the Iranian government to permit the IAEA to allow the peaceful development of nuclear energy in Iran and some other military incentives in return for a more cooperative government, in terms of its domestic markets and support against Australia.

SIC: Your offer is very enticing, but also very dangerous. While France is half a world away Iran is right next to this up and coming warzone. Iran will forward help, including some of our newly re-equipped formations to help in any effort to oust the Australians, but we would need far more than just help with the IAEA. We ask for serious economic aid, investments and technological help to boost our economy and especially the industrial sector. Furthermore, if we back France in Somalia we ask that France back us in the developing Caspian situation. In return Iran would be more than happy to do everything in our power to see to it that Somalia is freed.
Naktan
11-03-2006, 18:26
SIC: I presume that this Caspian situation refers to this Georgian Confederation thingy... We will see what we can do. On other notes, we will be glad to assist Iran in developing a strong economy, perhaps a model to other nations in the region. Seeing as Spain is already offering aids of sorts, we will would support and add to these various investments. Our primary objective in the world right now is improving infrastructure in the world, notably with our grants to Nigeria and our new EU partners in building up the raillines, electric grids, et cetera. If it is alright, we would be glad to extend our infrastructure projects to Iran, for ease of domestic transportation, improved communication access to your autonomous regions, and effect a stronger governmental control over your state. Later, we can see military armaments advancements, especially seeing as Iran is next to a hot spot currently.
Geneticon
13-03-2006, 17:33
OOC: Please take note:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472930
Willink
17-03-2006, 21:42
IC:

Alliance of Laterally Led and Aligned Hierarchies

The ALLAH is a alliance that Saudi Politicans have suggested, to establish peace among middle eastern nations, a defensive network from war-mongering nations(Israel), and for increased economic support to the other members, to raise the level of standards to a place the world has never seen. To go forward with the plan, we will need a co-founder, and I personally chose Iran, for its importance, power, and stability. If you accept, the nations invited would most likely include the following:

Iran
Saudi Arabia
Iraq
Kuwait
Jordan
Syria
Oman
Islamic Federation
Turkey
Georgian republic

I will await your reply.

King Abdullah the second

OOC- Ty to NotHere-There for the awsome acronym idea
Safehaven2
18-03-2006, 15:33
Iran will glady go along with this alliance, although we ask that the Georgians not be invited.

OOC: That was a pretty clever name, I like it.
Sel Appa
18-03-2006, 23:11
IC:

Alliance of Laterally Led and Aligned Hierarchies

The ALLAH is a alliance that Saudi Politicans have suggested, to establish peace among middle eastern nations, a defensive network from war-mongering nations(Israel), and for increased economic support to the other members, to raise the level of standards to a place the world has never seen. To go forward with the plan, we will need a co-founder, and I personally chose Iran, for its importance, power, and stability. If you accept, the nations invited would most likely include the following:

Iran
Saudi Arabia
Iraq
Kuwait
Jordan
Syria
Oman
Islamic Federation
Turkey
Georgian republic

I will await your reply.

King Abdullah the second

OOC- Ty to NotHere-There for the awsome acronym idea

Kurdistani Parliament voted near-unanimously to reject joining this alliance. Prime Minister Barzani said: "Kurdistan will not help destabilize the world with military pacts and wishes to work with Israel for peace, not war. (Sorry if this is the worng place for this.)
Ottoman Khaif
18-03-2006, 23:19
The Turkish Governments request to sign a Defense Treaty with Iran in light of recent events.

In Secret

We ask that we start a joint Nuclear weapons program.
USSNA
19-03-2006, 12:27
((OOC: I'm not exactly 100% sure what was going down before we lost in touch of eveything, but here we go.))

The Georgian government formally requests that Iran cease all hostilities in the Caspin Sea. There is no need for this violence. We ask that the Iranian ships near our territorial waters to back down and return home.
Safehaven2
19-03-2006, 20:57
((OOC: I'm not exactly 100% sure what was going down before we lost in touch of eveything, but here we go.))

The Georgian government formally requests that Iran cease all hostilities in the Caspin Sea. There is no need for this violence. We ask that the Iranian ships near our territorial waters to back down and return home.


OOC: Could you do everything regarding this rp in the other thread

IC: The Iranian government will not respond unless the Georgians want to discuss the terms layed out before them.