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OOC: RL gear is preferred, but any MT gear will suffice. I do not wage wars based on tech, I do not want to get drawn into tech-wank arguments over whose g*****ed bombs of doom are superior to anyone else's equally g*****ed wank toys.

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Kahanistan was devastated after the war with MassPwnage. Homes, factories, nuclear plants, hospitals, water supplies, coastal defenses, etc. were destroyed or heavily damaged. One million Republic Guards, 100,000 naval personnel and 100,000 Imperial Marines lay dead in Kahanistan and ViZion, and 2.7 million soldiers were wounded. The remaining military forces were press-ganging unemployed people from off the streets to work as laborers to rebuild and dig deeper siege stores in case of future wars. The laborers were paid well, but were ill-trained in the use of the heavy machinery for building. Yet they soldiered on, the damage being nowhere near as extensive as that incurred during the AMF war. The damage would be repaired within months, if not weeks.

The cost in civilian lives had taken a toll on Kahanistanian morale. 32 million civilians were dead and five to six million more were expected to die over the next few days due to injuries and disease. A further seventy to eighty million were disabled with less serious illnesses and injuries. Civil Defense had finished installing ROWPU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis) systems in 97% of all taps, in a bid to decentralize the all-important pure water supply, so that never again could the enemy pollute the water. Shelters were also to be relocated a minimum of five hundred meters below ground, immune to even nuclear bunker busters. Arms, ammunition, siege rations, and other essentials would be stored there.

With so much of Kahanistan's resources going to repairing the civilian infrastructure, the Ministry of Defense offered a contract to any friendly nation willing to aid Kahanistan in rebuilding its military.

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Government of Kahanistan has finally emerged from its clash with CAD. We call upon all friendly powers to aid us in rearming and restocking our supplies. We offer a contract of five trillion Universal Standard Dollars to any group or groups willing to provide us with the following arms:

1. Air Force:

2,500 F-35 JSF's*, 1,000 F-22 Raptors*, 1,000 MiG-35's, 800 B-1 Lancers*, 200 B-2 Spirits*, 1,500 KC-135 Stratotankers**, 2,000 C-5 Galaxies*, 250 E-3 Sentries**.

2. Air Defenses:**

A CIWS system capable of defeating enemy HARM's traveling at Mach 8 with 70% success. Also, Arrow and Patriot missile batteries are extremely useful. The S-400 Triumf system is also sought.

3. Navy:

25 Nimitz-class carriers*, 100 Ticonderoga-class cruisers*, 300 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers*, 50 Victoria-class attack submarines, 50 Seawolf-class attack submarines*, 25 Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines*, 300 Wasp-class assault carriers*, 200 La Fayette-class frigates.

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

* - Contracted.
** - Substituted.
***** - I tend to treat godmoding as a dirty word, I get accused of it too much. :)

To the Minister of Defence, Kahanistan -

We can fulfill your requirements for the F-35, F-22, C-5B, aircraft carrier, cruiser, and destroyer roles. The following corporations place the following bids:
Martin Avionics - 2,500 F-35A for $112.5 billion US, delivered in twenty-five months (at a rate of 100 planes/month)
Lockheed Corporation -
1,000 F-22A for $94 billion US, delivered in ten months (at a rate of 100 planes/month)
2,000 C-5B for $340 billion US, delivered in forty months (at a rate of 50 planes/month)
Baltimore Shipyards -
25 CV-98 Benjamin Cardin for $57.5 billion US, delivered in thirteen years (at a rate of 2 carriers/year)
100 CG-61 Antietam for $90.5 billion US, delivered in twelve years (at a rate of 9 cruisers/2 years)
300 DDG-31 Mark Warner for $184.5 billion US, delivered in twenty years (at a rate of 15 destroyers/2 years)

Thank you for considering our bids; we hope to win your contract, and that you'll look to The Beltway for future defence needs.

Sincerely,
Michael E. Busch, Commerce Minister of The Beltway

PS: Attached are specs for the CV-98, CG-61, and DDG-31 designs:
CV-98 Benjamin Cardin:
Abstract: Based on the Jerald Kim-class carrier, this monohull carrier has an air wing of 72, and carries ten helicopters. We provide 36 F-35B JSFs, four E-2C Hawkeye AWACS aircraft, ten F-14B Recon/Fighter Planes, four EA-6B EW aircraft, eight S-3B strike planes, ten RQ-1E Predator UCAVs, five HH-60H rescue helicopters, and five SH-60G ASW helicopters.

Length: 885.8 feet (269.99 meters)
Beam: 99.8 feet (30.42 meters)
Draft: 40 feet (12.192 meters)
Displacement: 64,000 tons full load
Propulsion: 4 General Electric LM 2500 gas turbine engines; 4 shafts, 164,000 shp
Speed: Rated at 33 knots
Electronics: Two AN/SWY-2 Fire Control Systems (for RIM-116C), 1 SQQ-26 Sonar, 2 SPG-51 Radars, SLQ-25 Nixie, one AN/SLY-2 EW Suite, 1 Mk. 114 ASW Fire Control System, 2 SPS-40 Air Search Radars, 1 SPS-48 3D Air Search Radar, 2 SPS-67 Surface Search Radars, one Mk.23 Target Acquisition System, and three Mk. 36 chaff launchers
Aircraft: 72 planes, ten helicopters.
Armament: Eight 20mm Vulcan Phalanx CIWS, two Mk. 49 21-cell launchers for RIM-116C Point Defence SAMs
Price: $2.3 billion

CG-61 Antietam:
Abstract: Inspired by the Quester-class design, this cruiser was developed for the Air Defence role. It has been fitted with the AEGIS system, and carries one ASW helicopter. We provide an SH-60G for your use.

Length: 800 feet (243.84 meters)
Beam: 77 feet (23.47 meters)
Draft: 21 feet (6.4 meters)
Displacement: 10,714 tons
Propulsion: Four GE LM2000 Gas Turbines; two shafts, 100,000 shp
Speed: Rated at 29 Knots
Armament: Three Mk. 41 VLS (120 cells), four 20mm Vulcan Phalanx CIWS, two Mk. 49 21-cell launchers for RIM-116C point defence SAMs, one 5"/54 (127mm) gun, two 12.7mm (0.5") machine guns, two Mk. 32 324mm triple torpedo tubes with six Mk. 46 ASW torpedoes
Armor: 25.4mm (1") RHA steel
Aircraft: One ASW helicopter
Electronics: 1 AN/SPY-1D Radar; 1 SPS-40 Air Search Radar; 1 SPS-48 3D Air Search Radar; 1 SPS-67 Surface Search Radar; SQQ-26 Sonar [bow mounted]; 1 Mk14 Weapon Direction System; 2 Mk74 Missile Fire Control System; 1 Mk86 Gun Fire Control System; 1 Mk114 ASW Fire Control System; 4 SPG-51 Radars; SLQ-25 NIXIE; Two AN/SWY-2 Fire Control Systems (for RIM-116C); and one AN/SLY-2 EW suite
Price: $905 million

DDG-33 Mark Warner:
Abstract: Based on the Malpractice-class destroyer, this warship has been re-equipped with more modern arms to better fulfill its role as an escort. It has been fitted with the AEGIS system, and can carry one ASW helicopter and one UAV; we provide one SH-60G and one RQ-1E Predator UCAV.

Length: 552 feet (168.25 meters)
Beam: 55 feet (16.764 meters)
Draft: 18 feet (5.49 meters)
Displacement: 9,760 tons
Speed: Rated at 30 knots
Engines: Four GE LM2000 Gas Turbines; two shafts, 100,000 shp
Armament: One twin 114mm (4.5") gun mount, two 12.7mm (0.5") machine guns, two 48-cell VLS systems, two 20mm Vulcan Phalanx CIWS, one Mk. 49 21-cell launcher for RIM-116C point defence SAMs, two Mk. 32 324mm triple torpedo tubes with six Mk. 46 ASW torpedoes
Aircraft: One ASW helicopter, one UAV
Armor: 7.62mm (.3") RHA steel
Electronics: One AN/SWY-2 Fire Control System (for RIM-116C), 1 AN/SPY-1D 3-D Radar, 1 AN/SPS-67(V)3 Radar, 1 AN/SPS-64(V)9 Radar, 1 AN/SQS-53C(V) Sonar, 1 AN/SQR-19(V) TACTAS Sonar, 1 AN/SLY-2 EW suite, SLQ-25A Nixie, 6 MK 36 MOD 6 Decoy Launching Systems, 1 AN/SWG-3A TOMAHAWK Weapon Control System
Price: $615 million

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

We are not interested in your carrier design, as we consider the Nimitz superior. Nor are we interested in waiting twenty years for a new fleet.

However, we find your planes acceptable, and the total bill for the planes comes to 546.5 billion Universal Standard Dollars. We will pay up to twice that sum, or 1.093 trillion USD, if the planes can be delivered within a year.

We will look to other arms dealers for our fleets and air defenses.

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

Baltimore Shipyards has two shipyards (Baltimore and a massive one built at Lewes, Delaware). It can't really build particularly fast; further, navies in general are rarely built up especially fast. Lockheed and Martin, on the other hand, can both build new factories fairly quickly and can hire temporary workers if worst came to worst.

To General Nora Kasagawa, Deputy Defense Minister of Kahanistan -

Your order is confirmed at $1,093,000,000,000.00 US. All aircraft will arrive in one year, per your request. Thank you for choosing The Beltway for your military needs; we hope you will think of us in the future.

Sincerely,
Michael E. Busch, Commerce Minister of The Beltway
Gwendolyn King, CEO and President of Martin Avionics
Robert Stevens, CEO and President of Lockheed Corporation

The CV-98 is smaller; however, it can carry a similarly-sized air wing, along with a moderately large AD battery. My only other suitable design is a large trimaran hull; it would take fifty years to complete that order.

CONFIDENTIAL
To: Minister of Foreign Affairs of Kahanistan, or such relevant official of the same
From: Ministry of External Affairs
Subject: Foreign Aid

Dear Madam,
His Imperial Majesty's Government has seen fit to allocate to your nation a portion of the United Imperial Kingdom's Foreign Aid Budget, to the tune of fifty billion $US over five years. The States-General has indicated that it is prepared to offer your nation a loan of five hundred billion $US at 2.3% p.a. (fixed, simple interest), for up to ten years (made available in one lump sum). Both offers are independent of each other; you do not have to accept the loan in order to receive the donation. We should also point out that the actual amounts are negotiable.

We require acknowledgement of these offers by your office and the details of the appropriate accounts to which you desire the sums to be transferred to.

While our defence companies have noted your offer, they have not indicated interest in the matter.

Any further inquiries on this subject should be directed to this office, however if you wish to engage His Imperial Majesty's Government on another level, you should contact the Ministry direct.

Dame Kimberly O'Brian, Secretary of State for Aid and Humanitarian Efforts.

Margaret Delray, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, pored over the Macikisan letter. Fifty billion dollars was chump change to the Ministry of Defense, and the government wasn't about to dig itself into even deeper debt with loans. The resources of Kahanistan were sufficient to rebuild the civilian infrastructure, but rebuilding arms factories could use some extra funding... Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, Delray replied.

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Kahanistan accepts the offer of the Office of Aid and Humanitaran Efforts of Macisikan. However, we are not interested in loans at this time, our situation is not that dire. Aid to assist our recovering military is always welcome, as our own resources are concentrated upon rebuilding civilian facilities.

Please wire any aid destined for Kahanistan to the Ministry of Defense.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

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To: The Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan

Greetings from the Libertarian Concordance of Czardas! As a fellow enemy of the CAD, we congratulate you on your emergence from this conflict mostly intact. As per your request for military equipment, we regret that we unfortunately do not produce any of the specific items requested. However, we believe we may be able to help in the air force department, as we produce several similar fighters and bombers to those requested, including the CZF-18 Peregrine, CZF-22 Kestrel, CZA-34 Striker, and CZB-9D Hailstorm. The attached sheet details specifications and prices for the aircrafts; we also are willing to sell munitions for these if you so desire. If you wish to purchase any of these, please inform us and we will put together the requested package.

~ Violet Astoria, Minister of Defense
Kari Alhoun, Foreign Minister
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CZA-34 Striker Light Fighter-Bomber
Wing design: Modified delta
Wingspan: 14.5 m (48 ft)
Length: 20 m (66 ft)
Height: 6 m (20 ft)
Crew: three
Payload: 7,000 kg (15,400 lbs)
Ceiling: 21,341 m (70,000 ft)
Powerplant: Two C/P turbofan-ramjet engines providing 48,000 lbs of thrust each
Range: 3,600 km (2,250 mi)
Absolute maximum velocity (sea level): Mach 2.2
Absolute maximum velocity (air): Mach 3.5
Maximum velocity (supercruise): Mach 2.7
Maximum velocity (cruise): Mach 1.8
Absolute minimum velocity: 190 km/h
Armament: Two rotary 30mm cannons; eight external missile pylons (three under each wing, two under fuselage) each capable of carrying 1 MRAAM, 2 SRAAMs, EMP bombs, chaff, flares, or ECM pods; six internal pylons capable of carrying additional AGMs, bombs, or LRAAMs.
Countermeasures: Built-in ECM systems; countermeasures placeable in missile hardpoints; decoy bomb releaseable from back of plane (gives off same RADAR signature as plane itself); 5x 'Firestar' miniature tungsten cube launchers; EMP shielded
Electronics systems:
RaDARs: BVR detection (ranged 250 km); advanced targetting (capable of engaging up to 25 targets at once); ECM-27 jamming; CIW datalinking mode; Active Radar Cancellation
LaDARs: Detection/targetting systems ranged 75 km
Infrared: Built-in guidance for close-in maneuvering, short-range missiles, and bombs.
SoDARs: Advanced detection/targetting system capable of locating and targetting up to 8 targets at once (virtually unlimited with universal datalinking)
Cost: N£1.76 billion ($80 million USD)

CZF-18 Peregrine Medium Strike Fighter
Wing design: Switchblade
Wingspan: 13.7 m (45.1 ft)
Length: 14 m (36 ft)
Height: 5 m (16 ft)
Crew: two
Ceiling: 22,866 m (75,000 ft)
Powerplant: Two C/P turbofan-ramjet engines providing 50,000 lbs of thrust each and configured for V/STOL
Range: 2,500 km (1,562 mi)
Absolute maximum velocity (sea level): Mach 2.2
Absolute maximum velocity (air): Mach 4.2 (“sprint” range)
Maximum velocity (supercruise): Mach 3.3
Maximum velocity (cruise): Mach 2.7
Absolute minimum velocity: 210 km/h
Armament: Two rotary 30mm cannons; six missile pylons (three under each wing), each capable of carrying 1 MRAAM, 2 SRAAMs, MRASMs, cluster bombs, EMP bombs, chaff, flares, lasers, AMMs, or ECM pods; four internal pylons built to carry 'Jinx' ELRAAMs or up to 1500lbs of ordnance
Countermeasures: Built-in ECM systems, countermeasures placeable in hardpoints under wings; decoy bomb releaseable from back of plane (gives off same RADAR signature as plane itself); LADAR- and RADAR-absorbent paint; 'Screeeech' noisemakers (anti-SoDAR); EMP shielded
Electronics systems:
RaDARs: BVR/OTH Detection for interceptor mode (ranged 400 km); advanced targetting (capable of engaging up to 25 targets at once); ECM-27 jamming; CIW datalinking mode
LaDARs: Detection/targetting systems ranged 75 km
Infrared: Built-in guidance for close-in maneuvering and short-range missiles.
SoDARs: Advanced detection/targetting system capable of locating and targetting up to 8 targets at once (virtually unlimited with universal datalinking)
Cost: N£1.1 billion ($50 million USD)

CZB-9D Hailstorm Heavy Bomber
Wing design: Fixed/traditional
Wingspan: 46 m (151 ft)
Length: 64 m (210 ft)
Height: 15 m (49 ft)
Crew: six
Payload: 62,000 kg (136,400 lbs)
Ceiling: 15,244 m (50,000 ft)
Powerplant: Six fuel/turbofan engines providing 46,000 lbs of thrust each
Range: 9,000 km (5,625 mi)
Absolute maximum velocity (sea level): Mach 0.8
Absolute maximum velocity (air): Mach 1.2
Maximum cruising velocity: Mach 0.86 (1000 km/h)
Absolute minimum velocity: 160 km/h
Armament: Two rotating 30mm rapid-fire cannons; two missile pylons above wings capable of launching two SRAAMs or equivalent each as a last-ditch defense
Countermeasures: Chaff, flares, and ECM pods under wings; AMM batteries above fuselage; lasers; 10x 'Firestar' tungsten cube launchers; 'Screeeech' noisemakers (anti-SoDAR)
Electronics systems:
RaDARs: BVR/OTH Detection (ranged 450 km); advanced targetting (capable of engaging up to 30 targets at once); ECM-32A advanced EW jamming; CIW datalinking mode
LaDARs: Detection/targetting systems ranged 75 km
SoDARs: Advanced detection/targetting system capable of locating and targetting up to 8 targets at once (virtually unlimited with universal datalinking), ranged over 200 km
Cost: N£6.6 billion ($300 million USD)

CZF-22 Kestrel Stealth Fighter
Wing design: Three-position switchblade
Wingspan: 9 m (30 ft)
Length: 12 m (39 ft)
[b]Height: 4 m (13 ft)
Crew: one
Ceiling: 36,586 m (120,000 ft)
Powerplant: Two modified C/P turbofan engines for fewer heat & noise emissions with cooling nozzles, providing 40,000 lbs of thrust each
Absolute maximum velocity (sea level): Mach 2
Absolute maximum velocity (air): Mach 3.3
Maximum cruising velocity: Mach 2.6
Maximum velocity with full stealth measures: Mach 2.4
Absolute minimum velocity: 70 km/h
[b]Armament: Two rotary internally mounted 30mm cannons; six internal missile pylons, each capable of carrying 1 MRAAM, 2 SRAAMs, MRASMs, cluster bombs, EMP bombs, chaff, flares, lasers, AMMs, or ECM pods; three of the pylons can be altered to carry 'clips' of LRAAMs, two per clip.
Countermeasures: Built-in ECM systems, countermeasures placeable in internal hardpoints; decoy bomb releaseable from back of plane (gives off same RADAR signature as plane itself); LADAR- and RADAR-absorbent paint; “stealthed” shape; minimum heat- and noise-emission engines; 'Screeeech' noisemakers (anti-SoDAR); EMP shielding
Electronics systems:
RaDARs: BVR/OTH Detection for interceptor/long-range stealth mode (ranged 400 km); advanced targetting (capable of engaging up to 25 targets at once); ECM-32 advanced EW jamming; CIW datalinking mode
LaDARs: Detection/targetting systems ranged 75 km
Infrared: Built-in guidance for close-in maneuvering and short-range missiles
SoDARs: Advanced detection/targetting system capable of locating and targetting up to 8 targets at once (virtually unlimited with universal datalinking), ranged over 100 km
Cost: N£3.3 billion ($150 million USD)

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Kahanistan Republic Guard is interested in bombers, stealth bombers, refuelers, and electrical intelligence / AWACS planes. Does the CZB-9D Hailstorm heavy bomber have stealth capabilities? Even if it does not, we would purchase 800 of them for a total of 240 billion Universal Standard Dollars, and continue our search for a stealth bomber. These will make excellent substitutes for the B-1 Lancer (and B-2 Spirit, if they have stealth capabilities.)

If the bomber does have stealth, we would be interested in 1,000 of them, for a total of 300 billion Universal Standard Dollars. Please supply us with the needed information on the Hailstorm bombers.

We have an abundance of munitions that we did unfortunately not get the opportunity to contribute toward wiping MassPwnage off the face of the earth due to their rapidly acquired air supremacy. We are in no need of munitions at this time.

In your letter you mention being a fellow enemy of CAD. I will forward a copy of your letter and this one to Ms. Margaret Delray, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, for her review and the possibility of enhanced relations.

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

TO:General Nora Kasagawa,


We, as a nation, are deeply sorry for the death and destruction caused by Masspwnage. But we can offer you some two thousand Archer missile systems.

Joe Donson, Military Defense Contractor and Communique to Raven corps.


OOC- Archer is a updated and smaller version of the Patriot missile system, with a vast increase in accuracy and range. It can attack ICBM's, cruise missiles, and Planes, along with air, surface, and sea launched missiles up to 75 KM away, with an 80% kill rate, and is proven in combat.

EDIT- OOC-I can also offer you plans and construction yard space for a new SD design, currently in very early developement.

OOC: Sounds similar to the Israeli Arrow missile interceptor system, which is far superior to the USian Patriot missile.

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Government of Kahanistan is most interested in these missile defenses. How much would it cost to equip them with CIWS systems? Missile defenses are prime targets for enemy high-speed anti-radar missiles, known to MassPwnage as HARM's. Such missiles travel at Mach 6, but we are looking for CIWS that can target a missile traveling at Mach 8 with 70% success or higher.

We are interested also in your superdreadnaught design, what specifications are available for it? We have our own SD, which is likely much larger at 1.5 km. However, size does not matter, performance does.

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

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To: General Nora Kasagawa, Deputy Defense Minister

I have forwarded your message to the managing director of the National Aerospace Group of Czardas (NAGoC), the former Air Marshal White.

~ Violet Astoria, Minister of Defense
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To: General Nora Kasagawa, Deputy Defense Minister

Regarding the Hailstorms, they are not equipped with advanced stealth capabilities, although they can be designed with basic stealth measures (RADAR- and LADAR- absorbent paint, cooling nozzles to reduce IR and SODAR emissions, Active Radar Cancellation, and so on for an additional cost of $10 million USD per bomber. If you wish to purchase them at this cost, the price of $310 billion will be automatically confirmed.

In addition, as you mentioned an interest in AWACS aircrafts, we have enclosed the specifications for the CZE-21 Chimera AA/EWACs; if you are interested in purchasing any of these, please inform us. Thank you.

~ Board of Directors, National Aerospace Group of Czardas
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CZE-21 Chimera AA/EWACS
Wing design: Fixed/traditional
Wingspan: 38 m (125 ft)
Length: 59 m (194 ft)
Height: 15 m (49 ft)
Crew: Fifty
Ceiling: 22,866 m (75,000 ft)
Powerplant: Four C/P fuel/turbofan combination engines providing 38,000 lbs of thrust each
Range: 10,000 km (6,250 mi)
Absolute maximum velocity (sea level): Mach 0.5
Absolute maximum velocity (supercruise): Mach 1
Absolute maximum velocity (air): Mach 1.25
Armament: Two rotary 30mm cannons; two 7.62mm automated chain machine guns (as CIWS)
Countermeasures: AMM batteries on both sides of cockpit; military-grade domed lasers; six 'Firestar' tungsten cube launchers
Electronics systems:
RaDARs: BVR/OTH ultra-long-ranged detection (ranged 650 km); advanced multi-vector targetting (capable of engaging virtually unlimited targets at once); narrow electromagnetic (AN/NEM) band jamming (capable of frying electronics from up to 400 km away); centralisation point for CIW datalinking mode
LaDARs: Detection/targetting systems ranged 75 km
SoDARs: Advanced detection/targetting system capable of locating and targetting virtually unlimited targets at once, ranged over 100 km
Cost: N£22 billion ($1 billion USD)

The Arrow is an anti-ballistic missile defense system, while the Patriot 3 is a relatively short ranged anti-missile and anti-aircraft defense system. The Arrows is also a joint U.S.-Israeli project, Arrow being the American/English name, and Chetz-1 being the Hebrew nomenclature [Chetz being arrow]. The two aren't really comparable, and for basic anti-aircraft defense the IDF doesn't use the Arrow.

RE: Message to Kahanistan

We can offer the X-27 Phalanx-Z CIWS system, using the proven design, while incorpertaing new sytems, such as firing what can be compared to a wall of bullets, with 76% sucess rate, a much more powerful radar, able to target steath and sea skimming missiles,along with new guidance to target on the fly missiles with Thrust vectoring sytems and pop up manuvers.

About the SD design, it is incorperating Lessons of the Doujin and other influential SD designs, and shall fit 32 inch naval ETC cannons, and meet your length requirment. It is to replace every other SD in willink naval service.

Joe Donson, Military Defense Contractor and Communique to Raven corps.

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Government of Kahanistan eagerly accepts the Czardaian offer of basic stealth additions to the Hailstorms. We will purchase 800 Hailstorms and 250 Chimeras, for a total of 498 billion USD.

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Kahanistan dispatched an envoy to Czardas, one Lieutenant General Hamed bin Jamal, some months ago. With our own conflict with CAD, we are eager to form diplomatic relations and possibly even an alliance in the future. How did the diplomatic meeting in Czardas go?

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

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To: General Nora Kasagawa, Deputy Defense Minister

The order has been confirmed. The eight hundred stealthed Hailstorms (hereafter designated as the CZB-9E) will be delivered at a rate of one hundred per month, or a total within eight months. The two hundred fifty Chimeras, due to the complex design of their equipment and armour structure, will be processed somewhat slower, at the rate of fifty aircrafts per month, or a total within five months.

We welcome you as the first foreign purchaser from the NAGoC and hope to hear from you again in the near future.

~ Board of Directors, National Aerospace Group of Czardas
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[ooc:] The NAGoC is an independent corporation that basically designed all of my planes... and I've never actually posted stats for them before now... so, basically...

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To: Margaret Delray, Minister of Foreign Affairs

Unfortunately, the diplomatic conference had to be cancelled when the CAD launched an attack against the Czardaian coastline, threatening the lives of all of the diplomats along with many Czardaians, and they were all flown back to their native countries. [I'm assuming fluid time here.] However, after our current conflict has finished and it is once more safe to hold a meeting, we would be delighted to further diplomatic relations between Kahanistan and the Concordance.

If you can suggest another plan that would not lead to the endangering of lives, kindly do so.

~ Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister [and proud possessor of an XY chromosome]
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DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Phalanx-Z appears adequate for our needs. Are specifications for it, and an estimate of the cost to implement it on our air defenses, available?

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Encryption code Nu-2-Upsilon-4-Tau

Since Kahanistan is enjoying a brief period of relative peace, we suggest that the diplomatic conference be held in Najaster, the capital of Kahanistan. Unfortunately, we cannot spare the naval assets to escort delegations. If it is possible for a covert team of Kahanistan Special Combat Service personnel to extricate delegates from Czardas by armored vehicle, then we could hold the conference in Kahanistan.

Do not expect CAD to overlook our presence, they answered our Fleet Admiral's attempt to negotiate by firing on her flagship and nearly killing her. SCS will have to be extremely discreet in this matter, CAD will probably attempt to murder your delegates if we take them out by air. If their tactics are similar to the ones used against us, a no-fly zone has been established.

Our plan is to take a single Merkava IV MBT into Czardas with several SCS personnel, put the delegate into the tank, and drive into Kahanistan. A single tank will not likely be noticed by enemy air patrols. Should Czardas be on the brink of falling, we will be happy to escort the Czardaian government out the same way.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs [and proud possessor of an XX chromosome]

OOC: Brilliant. What I was planning was an invite rp in the Supreme Soviet and having an invite only rp, a la Sarzonia's senate reforms rp (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443094). Do you mind if we retcon it or what not?

OOC: We can do both, this way I get more advanced equipment and possibly better tactics too.

TO:DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN

The actual specs are available within the file.

C_X-27INTRO.FSH

A Flash representation opens.

Welcome to the introduction to the X-27 CIWS system, we will run down several important points of the design.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4342/ciws5rw.png

The X-27 is enclosed within an Depleted Uranium-armored turret, from which the gun pops out in about 1.5 seconds. This protects it from Missile launched bomblets designed to destroy Air defense Systems. Along with this, it's guidance radar can also be enclosed within the turret. It takes advantage of the Willink designed C.E.P Target Recognizisation and target aquisition system, which Finds the target from a list of over 25,000 military weapons, and identifies the targets weakness, atributes, and specifications. It then uses a Visual and closed-loop fire aiming system, somewhat like a Computer games crosshairs, from which it targets the Enemy's weak spot, and fires a whopping 10,000 rounds per minute, throwing up what can be compared to a "Wall" of fire. The gun itself consitists of 4 PPZ-17 20mm rapid fire guns, which provide nearly twice as much firepower as the Phalanx.The ammuntion used are Tungsten-nano enhanced 20mm bullets, for increased speed and stopping power. Using its Visual range crosshair system, it can target Anti-ship missiles with thrust vectoring systems with ease, scoring an 76% kill rate on Thrust Vector equipped missiles. The system also utilizes a rapid fire system, were it will fire several dozen bullets at one missile, calculate the kill rate and move on to the next, all within a second. It can also be used to target low flying plane formations.

Primary Function Anti-ship missile defense
Contractor- Willink Naval Design and production inc.
Weight 19,000 pounds
Range- up to 20 km.
Gun Type- PPZ-17 20mm rapid fire gatling.
Fire rate-10,000 rounds per minute
-Magazine Capacity - 8,000 in gun, 36,000 internally within turret.
Caliber-20mm high explosive


The price to equip your whole military will be around 85 million USD discount price. It is designed to be fit to warships, but the turret can also be fitted to the ground, bunkers, and hulls of armored vehicles as a turret.

To: Soviet Republic of Kahanistan
From: Armed Republic of Tilean Free States

Sir.
As it is against Tilean foreign policy to equip Communist nations with military hardware, our government is willing to provide $25 Billion in humanitarian aid to a war torn people

I look forward to your response

Cllr Luca Brasano, Tilean Foreign Officer

ooc: tag

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Government of Kahanistan is deeply grateful for such a low-priced yet extremely effective CIWS system. How soon can it be implemented throughout our nation's military bases, air defense systems and civil defense stations?

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Kahanistan accepts the offer of humanitarian assistance. We would also inform the Tilean Free States that Kahanistan is socialist and democratic, not truly Communist.

However, now is not the time to discuss economic theory. If you are open to selling arms to socialist nations, then stealth bombers, refuelers, and warships are high on our list of priorities.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

TO- DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN


The system can be incorperate within the next few months.

To the Soviet Republic of Kahanistan

As we are currently replacing our Nimitz-class carriers with our own Civitas Americae-class attack carriers, we can offer you our decommissioned vessels gratis. Admittedly, they are up to two decades old, and so you may find it necessary to spend some money to refurbish them to your needs.

Most sincerely,
Grand Admiral Johannes Schönborn
Commander in Chief, Civitas Americae Navy (CINCCAN)

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Kahanistanian Navy is eager to acquire these Nimitzes. We modify ours anyway, how many are available to us? We hope 25 will be available, but if not we can always import or make more.

We assure you that we will be at the front line of modern technology with these new warships. However, until we acquire cruisers, destroyers, transports, frigates, and submarines these carriers will sit in our harbors while we refurbish them.

Signed,
Fleet Admiral Raghad Nazmareh,
Chief of Naval Operations, Kahanistan Republic Navy

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Encryption code Nu-2-Upsilon-4-Tau

Since Kahanistan is enjoying a brief period of relative peace, we suggest that the diplomatic conference be held in Najaster, the capital of Kahanistan. Unfortunately, we cannot spare the naval assets to escort delegations. If it is possible for a covert team of Kahanistan Special Combat Service personnel to extricate delegates from Czardas by armored vehicle, then we could hold the conference in Kahanistan.

Do not expect CAD to overlook our presence, they answered our Fleet Admiral's attempt to negotiate by firing on her flagship and nearly killing her. SCS will have to be extremely discreet in this matter, CAD will probably attempt to murder your delegates if we take them out by air. If their tactics are similar to the ones used against us, a no-fly zone has been established.

Our plan is to take a single Merkava IV MBT into Czardas with several SCS personnel, put the delegate into the tank, and drive into Kahanistan. A single tank will not likely be noticed by enemy air patrols. Should Czardas be on the brink of falling, we will be happy to escort the Czardaian government out the same way.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs [and proud possessor of an XX chromosome]
[ooc:] I just put that in because Kari Alhoun has been mistaken for female at times due to the rather androgynous name. Yes, male names in Czardas usually end in -i or a consonant. (Female names end in -e; plurals in -a.... yes, so I did invent my own language, what's the big deal? :p)

Oh, and also, Kahanistan would probably be some 300 km south of Czardas (and Czardas isn't exactly a point on the general NS Earth either, although we could consider it with the southern border intersecting the Golan Heights and surrounding area (although in a less arid climate, and probably with a much longer mountain range.... anyway...

[ic:]

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To: Ms. Margaret Delray, Minister of Foreign Affairs

While the plan sounds acceptable, we wish to observe a few problems. First of all, the only level land such a tank as the Merkava IV could make it through is under attack by Parthian forces, which may make it onto the land and intercept the tank. We would recommend, instead, using such a vehicle as the Scorpion II, which due to its unique hexapedal design could make it over the mountains or plateaus, especially in the extreme southeastern corner of Czardas (where a mountain pass would allow the descent of the vehicle into Kahanistani or neighbouring territory). Czardaian government officials have been transferred to Mjenaz following the threat of attack upon Czarna, so your agents may arrive at any point (if necessary a team of Czardaian Special Operatives can escort the Scorpion II to the border, where the tank will be picked up by Kahanistani troops and brought to Najaster).

If this sounds like a viable plan, or if you can think of something better, please inform me.

~ Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister
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DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

This plan seems acceptable. We will take a Kahanistanian tank, an older Asad Babil, or Lion of Babylon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Babylon_tank) instead of the Merkava. It is less likely to be identified as Kahanistanian, and our agents will be in this tank, at the border in the southeast of Czardas, awaiting the RV with the Scorpion. We do not have the technical skills to construct hexapedal tanks of our own.

Signed,
General Marcellus Q. Valens,
Minister of Defense

(OOC: Yes, until I read the foreign relations thread, I thought you had a female Foreign Minister, as I do. And you're not the first to have your own NS language. (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Pacitalian))

[ooc:] Regarding the hexapedal tanks, that's ok, I barely do myself. :p It's a light tank, and it can't actually go all too fast, but it can navigate forests and rocky mountain passes very easily, making it quite useful for spiriting things out of the country.

Oh, and I figured a few other people had beaten me to the language, in a site as large as this. :p

[ic:]

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To: Margaret Delray, Minister of Foreign Affairs [Highly encrypted]

Excellent; I plan to send my chief assistant, Lorin Dax, as I myself have some work involving Czardaian relocation plans that unfortunately takes priority. Mr. Dax should be arriving within a day or two in a Scorpion II (Mk. 5), at Border Post E18 (co-ordinates: xxºxx'xx" N, xxºxx'xx" W). However, be warned, as he is known for having a highly sardonic sense of humor which could be misunderstood.

~ Kari Alhoun, Czardaian Foreign Minister
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24 hours later

Southeastern Czardaian border

Inside a Kahanistanian Asad Babil tank

Four Special Combat Service personnel, three men and one woman, sat in the tank in the heat, drinking vodka and smoking pot. One of the men was a designated driver, and as such did not drink or smoke.

The designated driver was a Captain. He stood outside his tank, not wanting to breathe the pungent fumes of the marijuana that the rest of the crew were smoking. Cannabis was fine, as long as the designated driver did not have to breathe it. He awaited the Czardaian tank that would carry its delegates past the Parthians. The Kahanistanian Communist Party had just won the elections, and they were big on Shooban rights. They had their own beef with Parthia, but they lacked the military strength to fight them.

Goddammit, 11 PM and it's still thirty degrees out. The captain could not open his uniform jacket, as his NBC and body armor underneath were necessary to protect him. Luckily, Kahanistanian canteens held a liter of water and were made of ceramic that resisted enemy fire. The captain took a long drink, waiting for the Czardaians so that the noises of the two stoned men and the woman drinking, smoking, talking, et cetera, would end. He didn't want to have to clean puke, bile, or other fluids out of that tank.

To: Kahanistan
from; Hataria

We will give you 600 Ct-24 Main Battle Tanks and 34 Conquerer Class Frigates for started, along with $10,000,000,000 for humanitarian aid in your Nation.

(Stats on the tanks and the frigates?)

OOC: No offense intended Kahanistan, it's NS time. You can simply fluid time one's shipment. It's free-form rp, so you don't have to rp one day equal one year...

"Whew! Is it always so hot in these parts?"

Sitting within the main crew chamber of the Scorpion II and watching the displays, Lorin Dax wipes his brow. Even with the automatic climate conditioning within the vehicle, the change from eighteen to almost thirty degrees outside cannot fail to be noticed.

One of the Special Operatives, driving the tank, makes a noise of assent. "Kahanistan isn't exactly known for its cold climate," he said.

A second SpecOp, watching the real-time imaging of the large arachnoid vehicle scrambling down the rocks and boulders into increasingly arid terrain, adds, "Besides, we're almost there... I think they're waiting for us now."

Dax smiles sardonically. "Of course, because they've never heard of Czardaian logistics."

The second SpecOp grits her teeth. "Sometimes Logistics makes me so annoyed. If the whole military was made up of just special forces..."

"...we'd've been overrun by the CAD long ago," the first SpecOp answers without looking up. "All spec forces means no navy, no airforce, and virtually no numbers for anything. No matter how annoying they are, you have to agree that the benefits of such things outweigh the costs, by a long shot."

A third SpecOp, serving as navigator, speaks for the first time in a long while, startling Dax, who is sitting in front of him.

"The border post's up ahead now, about a hundred metres... and I can see the Kahanistani tank there."

From the Kahanistani tank, one could see something emerge from above a hill not too far away. From afar in the darkness it would look like a huge black spider; until it reached the light of the border post one would not realize it to be a tank... about ten feet in height, eight in length, six in width, its main and secondary gun turrets glinting in the light...

Captain Gregory Morrison of the SCS saw the huge spider thing approaching. He screamed in panic and entered the Asad Babil to retrieve his RPG-7. That thing wasn't going down to an M-16. Didn't know Czardas had that kind of wildlife... but no sense pondering. Kill it! Kill it! KILL IT!

But by the time he had retrieved his RPG, loaded it, assumed a firing position, and taken aim, it was close enough to him that it was obviously mechanical. No matter what sort of wildlife existed in Czardas, nothing natural had a metal body. He put down his weapon and saluted.

"Captain Gregory Morrison, Republic Guard, Special Combat Service," said the Kahanistanian officer.

A megaphone extends from the top of the Scorpion II and the amused voice of the first SpecOp, rings out across the border.

"Haha, gave you quite a shock there, didn't we? Lt. Thomas Irian here, 14th Special Operative Division... the 14th Special Operative Division, if that means anything to you. Our envoy's inside this thing...he ought to be appearing momentarily."

As Irian speaks, a door opens in the side of the tank, and a staircase descends, allowing Dax himself to exit. Dax is an extremely short clean-shaven man, 5'5" in all, with dark hair and indeterminate features, and an impish expression. He waves hello.

"Lorin Dax here... chief assistant to the Foreign Minister... I'm the one that actually does the work." He extends a hand to the Kahanistani officer.

Meanwhile, the tank disappears almost silently as the Kahanistanis are distracted by Dax's approach.

Captain Morrison shook Dax's hand and picked up his weapon. He then escorted the Czardaian into the Asad Babil. "Smells a bit, the crew was drinking vodka and smoking the Wacky Weed waiting for you. I'm fine, I'm the designated driver."

Morrison started the tank up, oblivious to the moans coming from the back of the tank as they headed for Najaster. They would arrive in 24 hours.

"By the way, the Ministries of Defense and Foreign Affairs have authorized the establishment of a Czardaian embassy in Najaster, which you can use to hold diplomatic meetings if your homeland is unsafe for them," said the Kahanistanian officer.

Dax smiles knowingly. "Perhaps they should come to Czardas sometime... we have them without sales tax."

He gets into the tank and sits down, quite far from the smell and sound, although he is quite used to it.

"Oh, and I can see how an embassy would be helpful..." Dax adds. "Yes, I think that would be a good idea."

The tank pulled onto a highway leading straight to Najaster. It would be a long, straight drive. "The Kahanistanian government makes a lot of money from hemp," said Morrison. "We make paper from it, clothes from it, food from it, we use biodiesel from hemp oil, we tax pharmacies that sell it for recreational purposes, and we export it to countries where it's illegal at insane profits."

Meanwhile, the crew in the back finished having sex. As the Lion of Babylon struck one of Kahanistan's numerous potholes, a 1024-size Super Economy Pack of Trojans fell to the floor of the tank. Morrison continued to drive as if nothing had happened.

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Kahanistanian Navy is eager to acquire these Nimitzes. We modify ours anyway, how many are available to us? We hope 25 will be available, but if not we can always import or make more.

We assure you that we will be at the front line of modern technology with these new warships. However, until we acquire cruisers, destroyers, transports, frigates, and submarines these carriers will sit in our harbors while we refurbish them.

Signed,
Fleet Admiral Raghad Nazmareh,
Chief of Naval Operations, Kahanistan Republic Navy

To Fleet Admiral Raghad Nazmareh:

All 25 of the vessels that you require are available. The Civitas Americae Navy is rather large, and so we have plenty of these ships available from our transition.

Most sincerely,
Grand Admiral Johannes Schönborn, CINCCAN

To Kahanistan
From: Tilean Free States, Presidential office

We enclose an agreement for the sale of 200 Aircraft to Aircraft refuelers at a price of $200 Billion.

We also enclose a further $8 Billion to the people of Kahanistan for social rebuilding, such as schools and medical facilities.

If need be, Tilean soldiers will be deployed to help with the humanitarian effort, they will be armed with minimal equipment but will bring with them several squadrons of helicopters to help spread the aid as far as possible

Please lets us know of your decision soon

Tilean Free States
Foreign officer

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Kahanistanian military has already signed a deal to import refueling aircraft from Roman Republic at far lower prices, and in greater numbers. They are also superior to the Stratotankers we had sought. However, civilian rebuilding assistance is always welcome.

The only military equipment we are in serious need of at this point are diesel-electric attack submarines and light frigates.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Encrypted Transmission
TO: Kahanistan Ministry of Defense
FROM: Paul David Nettleton, Minister of Defense, United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
SUBJECT: Armanents

Greetings,

I said that I was able to help out with your military reformations, and I sworn to that, and here I am, addressing you in this communique. Doomingslandian armor are known to be some of the world's finest, and a Merkava IV shall not stand a chance going up against a DM-41A2 Caesar Main Battle Tank, nor will a MiG-35 against the ACI-73A "Aquila" air superiority fighter.

I understand your choice of tank is for utility purposes, but however, it's quality is sub-standard. You want an armored vehicle that has both utility and the firepower to survive. Meet the L-21 "Kodiak" Heavy Armored Vehicle series (in attachment at the end of the letter). A domestic design by the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland, it is the pride and joy of Isselmere Motor Works (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=391319) to sell such a vehicle that has utility, the firepower and the endurance to stand up to the best of the best in modern tank warfare worldwide. Perhaps the Kodiak could be a successor to your venerable Merkava?

The MiG-35, is severely out of date. I say you take a visit to OMASC/NDI (Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation/National Defence Industries) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278248). The Omzian Air Force is arguably the best of the best in the world - they once made the Freeks (along with several other powerful entities such as Sniper Country and Omni Conglomerates), convince them in backing down due to the fact that their own air force rivalled the Sentinels in quality - the war ended up in a stalemate: the closest thing anybody has ever achieved in destroying the myth of Freek invincibility. The F-120A "Darkhawk" Air Supremacy Fighter should do well in the MiG-35's place (see attachment at the end of the letter).

And, just as a tip in case your nation actually gets occupied by a foreign imperialistic power: adopt the vehicle we have adopted in case of that. The Z-39 "Pit Bull" Close In Combat Vehicle (see attachment at the end of the letter). Created by the Incorporated Ordnance Company (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394656) (now taken over by Portland Iron Works (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457777)), the Z-39 was a product of Sarzonian humiliation by the Doomingslandian-Generian forces, whom supported the Inkanan Republican Army, while Sarzonia and the UKIN backed the Imperial Inkanan Army, in the Inkanan Civil War. With the Incorporated Sarzonian Army hopeless at urban combat and lacking an urban combat vehicle to support ISA soldiers, the Z-39 was created to answer that. Adopt it to your own Home Guard, like we did, just in case.

Hope I was of help!

Respectfully,
His Excellency,
Minister of Defense
United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
Paul David Nettleton

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MA001L21K (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8068944&postcount=8)
MA002F120DH (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9963808&postcount=1266)
MA003Z39CICV (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10492375&postcount=14)

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Kodiak tank appears to be similar to our own prototype Merkava V-K. We will look into the possibility of obtaining some Kodiak tanks, and comparing them to the weapons we have on the drawing board.

As for the F-120A Darkhawk, Omz only sells these to close allies. While we are hostile to AMF, we do not consider ourselves allies of Omz. We have already replaced many of our MiG's with F-22 Raptors and F-35 JSF's, but many of our pilots are accustomed to the MiG. We are gradually attempting to wean them onto the superior fighters, however.

The Z-39 is most useful of all, Kahanistanian infantry rarely get to shine in urban warfare, our specialty, because we rarely face enemies who care to avoid bombing civilians in our cities. We have therefore been forced to rely on large, vulnerable air defenses, made only slightly less so by the addition of CIWS systems.

Signed,
General Marcellus Q. Valens,
Minister of Defense

OOC: In speaking of air defenses, talk to Clan Smoke Jaguar. He was one of those that backed Omz222 in the "Homeland Defense War" when Sniper Country, backed by AMF and other powerful states. CSJ is also a military expert overall (mainly on land, somewhat on air and on naval)....he critcized your long-range missile, remember that? Give him a TG on air defenses and he shall gladly help out....

Encrypted Transmission
TO: General Marcellus Q. Valens, Minister of Defense, Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan
FROM: Paul David Nettleton, Minister of Defense, United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
SUBJECT: Re: Armanent

Greetings General Valens,

I am most pleased that you are taking into consideration the L-21 Kodiak Heavy Armored Vehicle series and the Z-39 Close In Combat Vehicle as units to be used in your military. I strongly recommend them - they are fine examples of weaponry. The Z-39 units, while they have not been tested into actual combat, are extremely useful in the Home Guard.

On the Omzian aircraft - ah yes, I should have read the catalogue more clearly, forgive my mistake. As your nation's pilots I also see that your nation needs attack submarines and frigates. Meet four more designs, all made by the UKIN (United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland), the Forthar-class SSN and the Nowotny-class SSN. As for a successor to the La Fayette-class frigate, either one of these UKIN designs should do the trick - the Bullfinch-class or the Furtive-class.

All four UKIN naval designs are located in the attachment at the bottom of this letter. Oh, and General Valens, in one of my previous communiques, I sent you a copy of the proposal I had for the Director-General of the Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland - have the other Presidential Administration members agreed to the proposal? Have you even contacted the RSIN Director-General saying you want a partnership?

Yours Truly
His Excellency,
Minister of Defense
United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
Paul David Nettleton

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[M0077INSSN] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7151380&postcount=8)
[M0078INF] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7151375&postcount=7)

[OOC: For the frigates, you'll have to scroll down a bit to look at their stats.]

OOC: Kahan, what do you think of Mekugi's stuff?

OOC: Had to hunt for it on the advanced search, didn't think it was much better than the F-22's and F-35's that I've imported to gradually take over from the MiG. You've probably noticed I don't have nearly the amount of Russian stuff I used to.

OOC: Tell that to Mekugi, and he will be having a long discussion with you afterward. I read the profile before and compared it to Doom's Aquila, and I concluded that the Raven was superior to the Aquila in terms of quality...but in terms of pampering and fiscality, the Aquila can be used en-masse and taken care of more easily than the Raven.

Well, the F-22 carries more missiles (up to 8), and plus, Mekugi only sells 300 Ravens to each customer. They won't be replacing anything in active service in the Kahanistan Air Force anytime soon. Do you think an F-22 or F-35 JSF could stand up to an Aquila?

OOC: Doom used to field RL tech like some NS rpers before they turned away from RL designs to NS ones. Amongst those RL designs Doom used to field, are the F/A-22 Raptor and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. It's even detailed in the Aquila's article (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=553). F/A-22 Raptors and JSFs will stand a better chance against the ACI-73 (the Doomingslandian domestic designation) than the MiG-35, but not by much. Nonetheless, even a small percentage is better than nothing.

From: Tilean Free States
To: Soviet Republic of Kahanistan

Friends,
We, the people of Tilean Free States, remain your friends in your time of need
You have but to ask and we shall provide any assistance necassery

P.S. Did you lose all the MiGs in your air force? Or are the 1000 lost only a portion of it? Because quantity doesn't always matter, especially in the NS world where it's still mostly Cold War style tactics. Quality often does.

I lost all but 300-400 of them, I'm gradually phasing out the MiG-35 in favor of the F-22 and JSF, but my pilots are all used to the MiG, so I can't just yank it out from under them, and some of the reserve units might still use it.

OOC: If you're interested in doing a reforms RP similar to the one I did, I could have one of my military characters address someone in your DoD or something of the sort.

I lost all but 300-400 of them, I'm gradually phasing out the MiG-35 in favor of the F-22 and JSF, but my pilots are all used to the MiG, so I can't just yank it out from under them, and some of the reserve units might still use it.


Once its done, i could present rights to production for my new Fighter, based on the Mig design and controls, but incorperating modern and Very early PMT (2012ish) lessons, Designed to completly outperform fighters like the TSF-620 "Xeon" and the F/A-91.

Sarzonia: Good idea, I was planning to get on the general changes tomorrow, when my nation swears in a new President. He's going to make some serious changes around Kahanistan, especially in the military.

Willink: Does 2012 really qualify as PMT? I thought it was MT, the distinction is very important because I'm not interested in PMT, and certainly not FT.

Willink: Does 2012 really qualify as PMT? I thought it was MT, the distinction is very important because I'm not interested in PMT, and certainly not FT.


PMT in the sense of technologies still in developement in MT, such as Nanotechnology(The only thing even relatable to PMT i use), but 2012 is a far cry from stuff like, say, Fusion reactors, and such. I just use micro nano miniturization(Making Comp chips the size of a finger nail, but that is about it.)

Sarzonia: Good idea, I was planning to get on the general changes tomorrow, when my nation swears in a new President. He's going to make some serious changes around Kahanistan, especially in the military.OOC: Excellent. I look forward to having him meet your new President.

As for your other concern, I don't think there's a concensus for what's considered MT or PMT in terms of years. I've heard 2010 or 2015 as limits. I've even heard 2020 or 2025 I think. Considering the fact that we're in 2006, I don't think 2012 is so fantastically ahead of us that it can't be considered MT. There've been a number of concepts that sound far-fetched now but were under development in the '70s or even earlier and were scrapped for lack of funding.

Your concern about adapting to new tech is a valid one. If you're changing your tech base to something NS-derived from a RL system, it's going to take some adjusting. Basing a new aircraft somewhat on the MiG but then advancing beyond it into NS-capable tech is a good, common sense approach to an upgrade of technology.

The tank pulled onto a highway leading straight to Najaster. It would be a long, straight drive. "The Kahanistanian government makes a lot of money from hemp," said Morrison. "We make paper from it, clothes from it, food from it, we use biodiesel from hemp oil, we tax pharmacies that sell it for recreational purposes, and we export it to countries where it's illegal at insane profits."

Meanwhile, the crew in the back finished having sex. As the Lion of Babylon struck one of Kahanistan's numerous potholes, a 1024-size Super Economy Pack of Trojans fell to the floor of the tank. Morrison continued to drive as if nothing had happened.
After conversing with the driver for some time, Lorin Dax opened his backpack and removed a murder mystery which he had started on the way over from Czardas. He continued to read, but stopped as they neared Najaster, looking out the window [Does it have windows? If not, at one of the displays] for his first glimpse of the Kahanistani capital.

[ooc:] Yes, I am speeding time up a bit here, so he can arrive and we can get down to business....

Sarz, there are apparently projects involving invisibility, antimatter, and some new discoveries about black holes the Israeli Army is using, although they're state secrets and I doubt anyone has gotten very far with them, that would easily be considered FT but could be developed as early as 2016 IRL. So tech limits are really defined by the much-faster-moving real technologies...

To: Minister of Defence, Kahanistan
From: Heinrich Topp, International Sales Representant, Alpha Shipyards, Wolfenshafen, Wolfensland.

Subject: Kahanistan Military Reconstruction

I have been authorized by the Wolfensland Department of Defense to offer you our new Stealth Frigate design, the Heifish Class.

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Haifish-Class Frigate
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1265/haifishclass6ty.jpg
The Haifish is a whole new design. It was designed with two main characteristics in mind, furtiveness and speed. It is capable of a maximum cruise speed of 30 knots and is fully coated with Refrad®, one of the best anti-radar coatings, developed by Alpha Shipyards, in Wolfenshafen, following strict military specifications. It also features a top notch close-in weapons system, capable of engaging and destroying sea skimming missiles and an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar System, with a virtually instantaneous scanning rate.

Length: 96.97 meters (314.96 feet)
Beam: 16.50 meters (54.13 feet)
Draft: 8.93 meters (29.29 feet)
Displacement: 9,722 tons
Speed: Rated at 30 knots (Max)
Engines: Four Südost NV 556 Gas Turbines; two shafts, 82,000kW (110,000 hp)
Armament: One Ödlander 57mm (2.2") gun mount, one 20-cell VLRS equipped with AllFit®, two 20mm Ödlander Torhüter CIWS, one Typ 19 10-cell launcher for SSDM-110 point defense SAMs.
Aircraft: Full Helicopter Facilities (10-ton Helicopter)
Armor: 5cm (1.9”) Titanium armor plate on the Hull Only; 1cm (0.3”) Titanium composite;
Electronics: Puma NightShift® Integrated Fire Control System; Elektronika AESA-76; Elektronika RDR-4X Radar Suite; Elektronika HMR-12 Active Radar Jamming System; Elektronika HMR-12P Passive Radar Jamming System; Elektronika GPSJS1 Active GPS Jamming System; Puma 2US Underwater Survey System; Puma PMS-63 Delphin Sonar Suite; Puma Integrated Emergency Backup Sensor Suite.
Price: $800 million

Features:
• Puma® NightShift® IFCS – All weather Fire Control Radar + Fire Control Software+ Weapons Guidance Software + Custom Terminals.
• Elektronika® AESA-76 - is a revolutionary type of radar whose transmitter and receiver functions are composed of numerous small transmit/receive (T/R) modules that each scan a small fixed area, negating the need for a moving antenna. AESA radars feature short to instantaneous (millisecond) scanning rates and have a desirable low probability of intercept. Main advantages over mechanically scanned arrays are extremely fast scanning rate, much higher range, tremendous number of targets being tracked and engaged (300 simultaneous targets) (multiple agile beams), low probability of intercept, ability to function as a radio/jammer, simultaneous air and ground modes, Synthetic Aperture Radar.
• Elektronika® RDR-4X Radar Suite – Is used mainly as a backup, in case of AESA Radar failure. Capable of tracking and engaging 30 simultaneous targets. Includes a Radar Warning Receiver.
• Elektronika® HMR-12 Active Radar Jamming System – Capable of Spot/Sweep Jamming.
• Elektronika® HMR-12P Passive Radar Jamming System – manipulates received radar energy and retransmits it to create the appearance of additional targets. This can be either one, or multiple targets in front of and behind the jammer.
• Elektronika® GPSJS1 GPS Jamming System – Effectively Jams GPS receivers (including that of smart-bombs) up to a range of 50kM
• Puma® 2US Underwater Surveying System – Uses a Syntetic Aperture Sonar to create a 3D Map of the underwater terrain directly ahead of the ship. Especially useful in Shallow Waters.
• Puma® PMS-63 Delphin Sonar Suite – Includes an on-board Active/Passive sonar array and a Passive/Active Towed-Array.
• Delphin Integrated Emergency Backup Sensor Suite (DIEBaSS) – Includes a single passive sonar array, and one RWR.
• Ödlander Spatz VLRS – This 20 cell vertical rocket launcher is controlled by the NightShift® IFCS. It is equiped with AllFit® cells for AllFit® compatible missiles. (Ödlander Waffenkammer Inc. is, as of now, the only company to offer AllFit® compatible missiles.)

List of available AllFit® missiles:
• Ödlander SSDM-110 (Surface-to-Air) - $5 million (Sold in 100-missile batch)
• Ödlander SSDM-110E (Surface-to-Air) - $200,000.00 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander SSDM-120A (Surface-to-Air) - $200,000.00 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander SLAS-101 (Anti-Ship) - $350,000 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander SLAS-102 (Anti-Ship) - $320,000 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander SLAS-110X (Anti-Ship Sea-skimmer) - $400,000 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander ASROC Mk. 9 (Anti-Sub) - $400,000 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander ASROC Mk. 10 (Anti-Sub) - $410,000 (Unit cost)
• Ödlander FLCM (Cruise Missile) - $1.5 million (Unit cost)
Note: Feel free to request our missile catalog, explaing all features of our available missiles.
Note 2: Export taxes included.
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Feel free to ask me any questions.

Heirich Topp

International Sales Representant - Alpha Shipyards, Wolfenshafen, Wolfensland

The tank entered the capital, and the now alert tank crew located the President's palace. The President and President-elect were there, as the President would be leaving office the next day.

The tank crew escorted Dax out of the tank, and to the palace, where he was taken to see Kahanistanian President Mohammed bin Yusuf al-Za'if, and Defense Minister Marcellus Q. Valens, the winner of the 2006 Presidential election. The President was a fat Arabic man in his mid-40's, and the Defense Minister was a seven-foot tall white-haired man in his late 60's or early 70's.

They were accompanied by a tall, slim, dark-haired young woman in a Republic Guard uniform, about 27. Her name tag and rank insignia identified her as Major Fulton. She introduced the three Kahanistanians.

"Mr. Dax, I presume," said the officer, with a wide smile. "I am Major Mara Fulton, the President's chief of security. This," she nodded in the direction of the man only an inch or so taller than her, "is Mohammed bin Yusuf al-Za'if, the President of Kahanistan. And this," gesturing to the very large, imposing old general, "is General of the Republic Guard Marcellus Valens, the Minister of Defense, until he is sworn in tomorrow as President."

"Now, let's get down to business," said the Major. "We're here to set up a Czardaian embassy in Kahanistan. First things first, the impending change in Presidents will have no effect on our policy toward your government, these decisions have been made by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Supreme Soviet. The Embassy complex is three blocks down the road you came and two blocks to the left. I'll take you there when you're ready."

The officer went back into the palace, leaving Dax alone with the President and the Defense Minister.

[OOC: I'm a extremely sorry for posting here, man. But my comp is on the blink and I cannot get it to work right, and thus I cannot find your OOC thread, or more so my comp freezes when I click the link. And I remeber you saying in that OOC thread that you rarely check you TG. Anywho, I'm going to call an end to our border war/war on SAG. We win, of coarse, since SAG is just a bunch of militants armed with AK-47s. I am wanting to start another RP which will require my full attention. Anywho, it was good RPing with you and I wish you the best of luck. Cya.]

Offical Imperial Statement

We would supply you with weapons, problem is in recent IQ studies we've found that more fatalites in the world result from Communists' (who genetically have lower IQs) accidentally shooting themselves.

Signed,
Houston Watkins
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

OOC: No problem. Just yesterday my mouse acted funny, so I know how it is. Maybe we can cook up something when your computer is fixed.

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Defense

The Kahanistan Republic Navy would obtain 50 of these Heifish frigates. The total bill would be 40 billion USD. We would also like to obtain 3,000 Mk. 10 anti-submarine missiles, for a total of 1.24 billion USD.

Total bill: 41.24 billion USD, plus export taxes.

Signed,
General Nora Kasagawa,
Deputy Defense Minister

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Your study is flawed. I have spent ten years in college at various levels of undregraduate and graduate study, including an M.S. in environmental science, and never have I read anything about communists being genetically different from anyone else. In fact, since communism is not a genetically inherited trait, your findings are biologically impossible.

An example, if a communist is persuaded to abandon his or her beliefs in favor of capitalistic ideology, do they get a boost of 10 points to the IQ? Or would one's IQ automatically go down upon adopting the ideologies of communism?

If you did not wish to help us rearm, why do you bother to send us such propagandistic drivel?

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Kahanistan, check your TG's

To: Kahanistan Ministry of Defense

First of all, I would like to congratulate you for your order. Building orders have just been sent to five of our shipyards, and according to the engineering department, we will be able to supply you with the requested quantity (50 Haifish-Class Frigates) in a rate of 10 frigates per year.
Regarding the 3,000 Anti-submarine missiles, we will have the requested quantity ready for shipping in 4 months. If you wish, they can be shipped free of charge in one of our military transports.
The total cost for the order is: $41,240,000,000.00 *After-taxes*
Also, I'd like to offer you, on behalf of one of our sister companies, BLi, the MHu-1 "Beluga" Multi-mission helicopter, which makes the best complement to your purchase. Full Specs available at: http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/3391/mhu17ih.jpg


Signed,
Heinrich Topp
International Sales Representant - Alpha Shipyards, Wolfenshafen, Wolfensland

Note from the Wolfensland Department of Foreign Affairs: Wolfensland does not usually collect exportation taxes, except in the case of military technology and military equipment.