NationStates Jolt Archive

Participants - Germany, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Turkey and Mexico

Proposal 1 - To offer certain territories to the Soviet Union to ensure their neutrality (see spheres of influence below)

Proposal 2 - To offer Axis membership to Spain, Portugal and Ireland to facilitate hostilities against Britain and France

Proposal 3 - A joint declaration of war by all the axis members against France and Britain

Proposal 4 - Spheres of influence

Germany - UK, Northern France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Scandinavia (minus Finland), Poland, Hungary, Rumania, Yugoslavia, Iceland, Greenland

Italy - Southern France, Albania, the mediterranean islands, all of Africa north of the equator (- Egypt)

South Africa - All of Africa south of the equator

Turkey - Bulgaria, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Greece, Peresia, Egypt and all of the Arabian peninsular (similiar to the old Ottoman Empire)

Japan - China, India, all the nations of south east Asia and Australasia

Mexico - South America

Soviet Union - Mongolia, Afghanistan, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland

We hope the conference delegates can agree to these proposals

Turkey agrees to proposals 1,2, and parts of 4. Things Turkey would like to change.
1. Turkey already made an agreement earlier with Italy that granted Turkey Greece, and seeing as Turkey is fighting for Greece, it seems only fair that greece should go to Turkey. Also Persia is predominantly muslim, and Turkey shares a common religion with them. Turkey proposes that compensation be given to Russia instead of Persia, such as Mongolia and another nation.
2. Your decision to make Alaska a Russian sphere of influence will seem to only anger the Americans enough to join the allies.
3. Turkey would like to hold off delaring war on the allies for the reasons i gave you in my TG, but it does not rule it out, it simply delays it

Turkey hopes these problems can be fixed

Japan strongly supports proposals 1 and 2.

At this time, Japan requests a delay of proposal 3 due to inadequate naval power in the Pacific Rim. By 1940, the strength of the Japanese Army will have doubled, the A6M Type 0 will be ready for combat duty and we will have finished a number of destroyers, cruisers and submarines that will allow us to establish naval superiority over the region. However, we may be able to lull Britain and France into a sense of security by pulling the more aggressive elements of our fleets (carriers and a large number of submarines) north to the Japanese islands for refits, well away from their colonies. If the war goes well in Europe, they may decide to pull elements of their fleets back towards the Mediterranean for combat duty, leaving their colonies weakened and vulnerable to Japanese expansion.

Like Turkey, we would request a slight modification of proposal 4:

We do not believe it is wise to include Alaska in the sphere offered to Soviet Russia. If the americans find out, they may be inclined to take action against us. We also believe that the Mexican empire should be given free hand in South America, moreso than North America. Japan is pleased with the countries offered to her, as they perfectly match what we wish to find in the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Germany is in agreement with Turkey and Japan concerning the spheres of influence and has ammended proposal 4 in accordance. However, we must insist that proposal 3 stands. You will both have to declare war on these nations sooner or later to achieve your territorial ambitions, and whilst you worry about your own military levels, a stay of execution for France and Briatin will also provide them with an opportunity to re-arm.

OOC: Ollieland did you get my TG? Turkey asks for a little while longer before declaring war in order to prepare itself for battle, especially with the events in Bulgaria and Greece tying Turkish soldiers down

Japan has conscripted 180,000 men from the territories, it will take 8 weeks to train them all and deploy them. Additionally, it will be over a month before we get to see the return of Hiryu and the fleet sent to Mexico.

We estimate that all reserves can be pulled into active duty and deployed where we need them within two weeks, at that time we will be ready for war...if you will allow us to hold off on the declaration of war for this period of time, we will aid you in the war. I will order the Nihon Kaigun to enter battle readiness and slowly re-deploy along Japanese waters in the Pacific Rim to allow for a quick attack of the Allied fleets. It will be an epic battle, but one that I believe the superior Japanese Navy can win. Nontheless, I am going to allocate more steel to the IJN for the construction of new ships. Naval and Air superiority are going to determine the war on my front.

If given two weeks, we are ready for war. Japan is satisfied with all four proposals.

If Spain chooses to court the Axis powers, and later join the alliance, what territories shall we receive? We are tempted to join, however, part of our desire is to reoccupy some of our old South American territories. Peru, Bolivia, and Chile are what we would like to have restored.

Since the bulk of hostilities against France and Britain shall be boren by us, we will agree to a delay in war declarations, but must insist that they occur within 3 weeks.

Concerning Spain regaining her old colonies, we would be in agreement in principle, providing that Spain a nd Mexico can negotiate so that they do not "tread on each others toes".

Concerning Spain regaining her old colonies, we would be in agreement in principle, providing that Spain a nd Mexico can negotiate so that they do not "tread on each others toes".

I'm sure something sensible could be worked out. There's more than enough space in Central and South America to satisfy both our nations' appetites. For example, large areas of Central America are tiny, independent states that really waste no time fighting eachother. Mexican troops can absorb those lands, and perhaps some northern South American nations such as Colombia and Venezuela. That is already a fairly large slice of territory in itself. Meanwhile, Spanish forces could occupy the areas that we wish to annex. Then both Mexico and Spain can reside alongside one another peacefully, while conquering all the land we need.

After analyzing documents relayed to us by an un-named source Brazil's top military minds have come to the conclusion that you gentlemen are doomed to failure. Your plans are too ambitious, you plan to divide the world amongst yourselves but yet at the same time you ignore your own lack of a means to do so. Nowhere is this more evident than in your own proposal to split South America amongst Mexico and South America. Mexico is paralyzed by the United States, who has issued an ultimatum to Mexico stating that if they move on Panama the United States will crush Mexico, something which is well withing their means to do and Spain does not have the industrial or military might to fight a war over 4,000 miles from their home, especially not if they have to fight their way to get there.

We have however found a solution to your problem, gentlemen, and that solution is Brazil. We have it in our power to crush Germany's little puppet, Argentina, and ending all Axis involvment in South America, but we also have it within our power to crush any and all nations of South America that do not agree to any and all terms the Axis may demand of them. Brazil, gentlemen, is offering to join the Axis powers, located at a strategic chokepoint, ships from the German, Italian and Brazilian navies could leave ports in Brazil and destroy allied merchant ships en route to Britain and France, effectively cutting off those nations from their colonies in Africa and Asia, assuming Italy and Turkey can effectively close off the Suez Canal that is, and forcing all ships bound for Britain and France to either travel through the Panama Canal or embark from ports in America.

After analyzing documents relayed to us by an un-named source Brazil's top military minds have come to the conclusion that you gentlemen are doomed to failure. Your plans are too ambitious, you plan to divide the world amongst yourselves but yet at the same time you ignore your own lack of a means to do so. Nowhere is this more evident than in your own proposal to split South America amongst Mexico and South America. Mexico is paralyzed by the United States, who has issued an ultimatum to Mexico stating that if they move on Panama the United States will crush Mexico, something which is well withing their means to do and Spain does not have the industrial or military might to fight a war over 4,000 miles from their home, especially not if they have to fight their way to get there.

We have however found a solution to your problem, gentlemen, and that solution is Brazil. We have it in our power to crush Germany's little puppet, Argentina, and ending all Axis involvment in South America, but we also have it within our power to crush any and all nations of South America that do not agree to any and all terms the Axis may demand of them. Brazil, gentlemen, is offering to join the Axis powers, located at a strategic chokepoint, ships from the German, Italian and Brazilian navies could leave ports in Brazil and destroy allied merchant ships en route to Britain and France, effectively cutting off those nations from their colonies in Africa and Asia, assuming Italy and Turkey can effectively close off the Suez Canal that is, and forcing all ships bound for Britain and France to either travel through the Panama Canal or embark from ports in America.

OOC: i can see Britain and France crying right now...
IC: Turkey hopes that an arrangement can be made with Brazil, without leaving any other nations in the Axis out. However, Turkey would like to know what Brazil wants out of this arrangement

South Africa concurs fully with the stipulations of the treaty, however, would like to augment with the following:

- the navies, both merchant and military, of the Allied and communist powers, be appropriated and redistributed to afford the axis powers naval dominance in their respective regions.

- war be declared upon the chinese state and its coastal provinces and ports be occupied and utlised by the axis forces.

- Axis occupation of the Panama canal to enforce trading supremacy.

OOC: i can see Britain and France crying right now...
IC: Turkey hopes that an arrangement can be made with Brazil, without leaving any other nations in the Axis out. However, Turkey would like to know what Brazil wants out of this arrangement


We are currently awaiting a response from Mexico and will be contacting Spain in the very near future to discuss the distribution of lands in South America. Brazil has designs on the nations of Argentina, Uruguay and Parguay, the most important reason for this is for control of the crucial Rio de Plata area.

Turkey does not believe it's prudent to occupy the canal at the time, as it would only antagonize America further

Japan has another issue to discuss: The United States of America. It is far too early to enter into a war with this world power, I do not doubt that their superior industrial power can overwhelm even our unified alliance. Also, it appears that South Africa has collapsed into Anarchy (Since he left...) and we may want to consider divvying their sphere in proposal 4 to others, perhaps spain, germany and italy.

Seán Russell was on his plane. He knew his destination, the Axis Confrence in Germany.* There he would hopefully meet with the leaders of the Axis nations in order to prepare plans for the IRA to help the Axis and, he hoped, take back Northern Ireland from the Damned Brits.

OOC:
*This is a little rushed so sorry if I am wrong. Just correct me.

Getulio Vargas, President of Brazil, having entered into a tentative agreement with Spain and Mexico is requesting permission to send a delegation to this conference, so as to bring Brazil into the war on the side of the Axis nations.

OOC: Sorry, Hades Deep is one of my alts...