NationStates Jolt Archive

(OOC: Nothing to do with Somalia, but...)

Fellow Nations of the World:
As I am sure you know, The Republic of Peru has come under attack by guerilla fighters bent on destroying democracy in our nation. These terrorists... blah... blah.. blah.
President Garcia

(OOC: To lazy to actually write a speech, but basically asking the UN to send troops to help root out the guerillas - or at least the US.

NOTE: I used terrorists and democracy in the same sentance - that means the US HAS to help:) :) :) )


Lol. thats funny peru. now for seriousness

IC: The Republic of Poland would be glad to assist your nation. We are willing to send 500 Polish commandos, 50 Bradley fighting vehicles and 15 blackhawk helicoptors. But we require time to do this. give us 72 hours and we will send them on c130s to your nation. Also if you allow us, we will deploy a command vessel and 2 cruisers to have a command center in your region. Please contact ASAP, so we may deploy soon.

OOC: For you that's like 2 weeks...not 72 hours.

in real life thats like 1-2 days. isnt it?

OOC: For you that's like 2 weeks...not 72 hours.

(OOC: True dat son, true dat. Seriously though, it would be more like 1 month, give or take a week or two imo. I'll have to look up just what your country has in the way of vehicles that can lift that a Bradley.)

Lol. thats funny peru. now for seriousness

IC: The Republic of Poland would be glad to assist your nation. We are willing to send 500 Polish commandos, 50 Bradley fighting vehicles and 15 blackhawk helicoptors. But we require time to do this. give us 72 hours and we will send them on c130s to your nation. Also if you allow us, we will deploy a command vessel and 2 cruisers to have a command center in your region. Please contact ASAP, so we may deploy soon.

[ooc: i sincerely doubt that Polish military has first strike capabilities within 72 hours, and this is a basic operation, not combat...The US wouldn't spend all of the effort to get troops in faster unless there was a dire need for their immediate presence...]

in real life thats like 1-2 days. isnt it?

(OOC: Well, convention says that its more like 1 RL day = 1 NS year, sometimes. The point is that NS is fluid time. Just keep things reasonable. I know you know what that means. (Other than that, your deployment looks ok, just...not everyone deploys that many commandos...))

[ooc: i sincerely doubt that Polish military has first strike capabilities within 72 hours, and this is a basic operation, not combat...The US wouldn't spend all of the effort to get troops in faster unless there was a dire need for their immediate presence...]

(OOC: It doesn't. Not even the US can move that fast. It's current goals (As in, not there yet.) are 96 hours, and that just infantry! I'm speaking about RL, just to note.)

(OOC: True dat son, true dat. Seriously though, it would be more like 1 month, give or take a week or two imo. I'll have to look up just what your country has in the way of vehicles that can lift that a Bradley.)

Actually....I think Kyanges is more right then me on time. One month at least. Distance is one that you planes can't even cover alone and the route would be long....USA maybe, but not Poland.

OOC- Um, since when does Poland have cruisers ?

(OOC: It doesn't. Not even the US can move that fast. It's current goals (As in, not there yet.) are 96 hours, and that just infantry! I'm speaking about RL, just to note.)

[ooc: infantry units take longer...airborne strikes are called within 72hours...]

OOC: Whoa...how did the UN get 10 more pages since I last checked?

1 RL Week=1 NS Year. The months dont change over the days. You could have January on Sunday if you want. Also, two different events and times can be on the same RL day in this RP.

[ooc: as far as I know, they haven't even assembled for departure yet...]

Saudi Arabia sees the situation in Somalia as a nearby problem, and can offer 250 Soldiers, and Can Send supplies and Cargo from SA daily.

(OOC- Sel check the OOC Thread !)

[ooc: infantry units take longer...airborne strikes are called within 72hours...]

(OOC: And this counters my point how? What was the purpose of what you said anyway? *confused.*)

(OOC: And this counters my point how? What was the purpose of what you said anyway? *confused.*)

[ooc: your original post implied that the USA was attempting to bring down their response time to 96 hours...I was clarifying that if the US wanted to send a first strike combat unit, they could do it in 72 hours...i guess the point is that Poland wouldn't be able even to send troops within a reasonable time of reaching 72hours, seeing as general deployments take an extremely long time [I'm taking about 2 weeks to send French troops to Somalia...] It doesn't counter your point...it expands and explains another point to it...]

[ooc: your original post implied that the USA was attempting to bring down their response time to 96 hours...I was clarifying that if the US wanted to send a first strike combat unit, they could do it in 72 hours...i guess the point is that Poland wouldn't be able even to send troops within a reasonable time of reaching 72hours, seeing as general deployments take an extremely long time [I'm taking about 2 weeks to send French troops to Somalia...] It doesn't counter your point...it expands and explains another point to it...]

(OOC: Ahhhh... No, I understand that air strikes are faster. I wasn't referring to the first thing the US could bring to bear, I meant getting boots on the ground.)

(OOC: Ahhhh... No, I understand that air strikes are faster. I wasn't referring to the first thing the US could bring to bear, I meant getting boots on the ground.)

[ooc: I wasn't talking about air strikes...the US can have an air strike practically within 24 hours, because of air strategic positioning...

I'm talking about elements of the 82nd and/or 101st Airborne Division...getting on a c-130, flying out and dropping out over the target and committing to action...ideally, they have 72 hours to get from Fort Bragg/Fort Campbell to their target...]

no see i probably am wrong about the reaction time,but my troops are already on alert and mobilized. Also the Polish have several dozen ships, many. We probably could only get over there in 1 a half a month. We could easily load up our humvees and trucks on transport ships and airplanes and fly/sail to peru.

Updated list of units:
250 commandos
dozen-2 dozen humvees
12 blackhawk helicopters
20 F/A 18 Jet Fighters

OOC: will update/change later

no see i probably am wrong about the reaction time,but my troops are already on alert and mobilized. Also the Polish have several dozen ships, many. We probably could only get over there in 1 a half a month. We could easily load up our humvees and trucks on transport ships and airplanes and fly/sail to peru.

Updated list of units:
250 commandos
dozen-2 dozen humvees
12 blackhawk helicopters
20 F/A 18 Jet Fighters

OOC: will update/change later

Problem...you don't have those kinds of ships and those units I think.

[ooc: I wasn't talking about air strikes...the US can have an air strike practically within 24 hours, because of air strategic positioning...

I'm talking about elements of the 82nd and/or 101st Airborne Division...getting on a c-130, flying out and dropping out over the target and committing to action...ideally, they have 72 hours to get from Fort Bragg/Fort Campbell to their target...]

(OOC: Boots on the ground with light, armored support. There. *Fear my way of changing what I mean on the last second when it looks like I'm about to lose an argument.* lol.)

OOC: yes we do have naval ships.

Polish Military Links-
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Equipment+of+the+Polish+Army&curtab=2222_1

Finalized military deployment list:
The Republic of Poland has responded to the request from the nation of Peru to assist in combating guerrilas. The Polish Ministry of Defense has decided to deploy several fighting uints to Peru.

The army and air units will be transported on naval transport and cargo ships. Some air units will fly there with in air refueling.

Deployed units:
Land-
250 GROM Polish commandoes
5 AMV Patria(fighting vehicles)
Air-
4 Mi-24(Hind)
5 F-16(airplane)
2 C-130 (transport airplane)
Navy-
2 Lublin Class(transport ship)
1 Tarantul class corvette

I think thats good. We plan to deploy them in a week-2

OOC: yes we do have naval ships.

Polish Military Links-
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Equipment+of+the+Polish+Army&curtab=2222_1

Finalized military deployment list:
The Republic of Poland has responded to the request from the nation of Peru to assist in combating guerrilas. The Polish Ministry of Defense has decided to deploy several fighting uints to Peru.

The army and air units will be transported on naval transport and cargo ships. Some air units will fly there with in air refueling.

Deployed units:
Land-
250 GROM Polish commandoes
5 AMV Patria(fighting vehicles)
Air-
4 Mi-24(Hind)
5 F-16(airplane)
2 C-130 (transport airplane)
Navy-
2 Lublin Class(transport ship)
1 Tarantul class corvette

I think thats good. We plan to deploy them in a week-2

I was refering to the black hawks...but you don't have F-16 (base) either. You'd have the C/D model. You don't have Hind's. Though you will have 5 C-130's.

dude. will u please stop hackling me. i look it up on websites. I have those things. AND BESIDES ITS 2012! Goddamn. it seems im the only one everyone annoys. What is this pick on poland week?? look at the website i included in the list. then go and click on equipment. look at aircraft. i have hinds and some sort of f-16. I am terrrrribly sorry i didnt give the correct type

[OOC: Here's a list of current Polish ships; no cruisers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Polish_Navy ]

dude. will u please stop hackling me. i look it up on websites. I have those things. AND BESIDES ITS 2012! Goddamn. it seems im the only one everyone annoys. What is this pick on poland week?? look at the website i included in the list. then go and click on equipment. look at aircraft. i have hinds and some sort of f-16. I am terrrrribly sorry i didnt give the correct type

[ooc: you're not the only one we pick on, and it's not without reason :)]

Singapore applauds the passing of the UN Resolution, and Parliament has repealed the Embargo so recently issued upon Australia by it. I can also say that our ally in the Straits League, Brunei, has repealed its embargo as well.

-Singaporean UN Delegate

Australia is happy about the UN passing and has removed its troops from Somalia.

dude. will u please stop hackling me. i look it up on websites. I have those things. AND BESIDES ITS 2012! Goddamn. it seems im the only one everyone annoys. What is this pick on poland week?? look at the website i included in the list. then go and click on equipment. look at aircraft. i have hinds and some sort of f-16. I am terrrrribly sorry i didnt give the correct type

(OOC: We're not "hackling" you. We just care... Yeah...

Heh, look, if I was to do anything that someone here didn't like, they'd jump on my case too. Just you watch, I'll slip up on something sooner or later, and I'll have no mercy...)

IC:

The United States congratulates Australia for its safe pullout, and hopes that this marks the beginning of the end for the recent rash of overtly aggressive actions the world has seen of late.

How many times has the UN voted unanimously on a subject? This is good news.

-United States UN Delegate

OOC: The UN would get a few Nay's to...increasing environmental protection/awareness! So this is a miracle! XD

ok so we dont have a cruiser. OMG*sarcasm* i am so sorry that i was wrong about what class of ship it is.

IC:
Will Peru allow us to come or not?

OOC: Peru isn't really active....just to let you know... >.>

Australia is happy about the UN passing and has removed its troops from Somalia.

At the news of this, Singapore announces it will send RSS Endurance, and RSS Endeavour, and 7,000 Singapore Army soldiers plus aid supplies (medical, etc.), as part of the UN aid mission to Somalia.

wow...that's a lot...

OOC: Peru isn't really active....just to let you know... >.>

You know, I do have a life...

Lol. thats funny peru. now for seriousness

IC: The Republic of Poland would be glad to assist your nation. We are willing to send 500 Polish commandos, 50 Bradley fighting vehicles and 15 blackhawk helicoptors. But we require time to do this. give us 72 hours and we will send them on c130s to your nation. Also if you allow us, we will deploy a command vessel and 2 cruisers to have a command center in your region. Please contact ASAP, so we may deploy soon.

The Republic of Peru gladly accepts your kind offer of military aid. An airport near Lima will be made available for your use.

The Republic of Peru gladly accepts your kind offer of military aid. An airport near Lima will be made available for your use.

[ooc: while I really do like all of the international cooperation going on, this really shouldn't be on the UN thread...this should be on the ooc thread or your nation's D/N thread [come to think of it, we should probably have an international IC thread...]...so anyways, use the UN thread for UN related stuff...]

OOC: Well, I was asking for general help, and I really didn't expect many people to actually read my thread, so this seemed like the bast place to ack for general help.

Peru: can i please get a link to your N/D thread. Also

IC: we will be deploying 200 commandoes by c130 to get boots on the ground and set up a command post. I will then send the remaining 200 commandoes and 500 infantry personnel by boat with the vehicles and helicopters and with your shipment of tanks. lets make the check out to......10.2 million dollars

The following resolutions have terminated their session:

With the complete annexation of Tunisia by Italy, we are thoroughly appalled that a member of the international community would perform such an action as this, without even any reason for action. We move to pass the following resolution in response:

THE UNSC [everyone can vote on this, even though it's UNSC; for reasons, see Sel Appa's explanation]

Noting with regret the failure of the previous resolution on the attacks on Tunisia by Italy,

Disturbed by developments leading to the annexation of Tunisia by Italy,

Reaffirming the sovereignty of all nations,

1. Condemns the Republic of Italy for its unwarranted seizure of Tunisia;

2. Demands that the Republic of Italy withdraw from Tunisian territory and full restore Tunisian sovereignty;

3. Further demands that Italy pay for any damages incurred on the Tunisian state and people during their attacks;

4. Encourages all nations to employ diplomatic pressure on Italy to comply with this resolution;

[I]5. Authorizes the implementation of UN peacekeeping forces to Tunisia upon passage to insure the security and safety of the people and of the government for the following purposes:
a) To protect Tunisia from further incursions of its sovereignty,
b) To maintain a stable form of government, and
c) To moderate any plebiscites in the country;

6. Decides to remain actively on the issue.

Y - 4 [France, Spain, Australia, Denmark]
N - 3 [Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel]

This resolution passes.

and here's an IC:

Following recent developments in the US and possibly the outcropping of new space ideas, Denmark would like to re-confirm that Space is to be banned for commercial and military exploitation.

Realizing: That the orbit around earth has already been heavily polluted by debris

Anticipating: That mining operations, military installations and tourism are all harmful to the pristine state of space.

Realizing: That only a few nations have full access to exploit spatial resources.

And finally demanding: That space should be regarded as an area unspoiled by the greed of man.

We would like to propose an International Law banning non-UN endorsed commercial (incl. mining operations, mass tourism and claiming property) and military (incl. space weapon programs and "invading" space) exploitation of space.

We hope that other nations will agree that space should remain as unspoiled by the more greedy nature of human spirits.

We also would like to note that scientific missions and peaceful operations that do not lay claim to any part of space are perfectly acceptable under this law.

[ooc: This is on the floor now :)]

Y - 7 [Denmark, Spain, Australia, CBSS, Yugoslavia, South Africa, Austria]
N - 2 [Iran, USA]

[ooc: out of arbitrary need for some time constraint, I'm limiting this resolution to a 1 year - 1 week RL - time for people to make their votes. At the moment, France is abstaining, but will consider a vote soon.]

[EDIT: until I get official word otherwise, Yugoslavia has a yea vote...]

This resolution passes.

There is still the Israeli resolution available [until when I don't know...]

The Polish Republic cannot agree with this law. We may have no plans for using military or privat companies in space, but that would jeopardize our choices in the future. We do apologize, but this.... this is unrealistic and unallowable.

OOC: i dont know what i can do, but i cannot support this.

The Polish Republic cannot agree with this law. We may have no plans for using military or privat companies in space, but that would jeopardize our choices in the future. We do apologize, but this.... this is unrealistic and unallowable.

OOC: i dont know what i can do, but i cannot support this.

[ooc: these aren't laws...they're resolutions that the UN intends to fulfill...just because it passes doesn't mean you have to follow in on the requirements [unless it says "orders" or "demands"]

Wonderful...time to take Italy out.

new forum for the UN :

http://www.atfreeforum.com/21c/viewtopic.php?t=8&mforum=21c