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The first vessel stopped outside of the baker island. It was a huge ship transporting tons of materials. It was owned by Russian based "MirAtom" company that produced nuclear reactors. Here on the baker island one would come in handy. The island was to be enlarged in area so it could be used as a major dock site for Russian VMS in the pacific, infact it would be the staging point for all Russian VMS operations in the pacific. Spizanian contractors were already called in to move in with all the neccessary equipment for the enlargment of the island. It was now only a matter of time.

Ooc: This Thread Is Eii Only.

Operating off Baker Island, having stalked the Russians for a few days before it arrived here, the Murmansk class sub gathered as much intelligence as possible. It looked like a massive base was being built here, and that information was passed along the Cottish military channels to the people who needed the information. For now, it cruised thirty-three nautical miles from Baker Island, respecting the Russian 30 nautical mile territorial claim while it gathered intelligence. Two KH-20 'Decanter' spy-satellites in geo-syncronous orbit around the Equator were also in position to take pictures and radar scans, something which they did. Thermal, IR and normal pictures were all taken, as well as a radar survey over the island, revealing any concealed holes and underground caverns. The scans would be very interesting for the Cots, as would the flyover by a Norwegian SR-71B Blackbird at 80,000 feet, 35 nautical miles away from the island in international airspace. The Russians could do nothing to stop it short of shooting it down, something which would start a war and mean the total destruction of Russia. The Cottish intentions were only to gather information about this new potential threat in the Pacific, not to attack in any way. Hopefully, the Russians would understand that.

OOC: Total destruction of Russia? A bit arrogant ay?

IC:

Two of the nine Flotillas operating in the pacific as well as one submarine division were sent to protect the island from possible aggression. There was nothing secret about the object being built, Norwegians were just wasting time.

OOC: Maybe a tad. A wee bit happy at the moment, if you disregard my four-year old nephew jumping on me at 6.30 in the morning to wake me up... Oh yeah, and I've gone back to Cotland now. I posted it a bit back in the main thread.

The SR-71B Blackbird cruised at 83,000 feet, flying in Mach 3 towards Baker Island. The two crewmembers kept the aircraft flying level and straight, heading directly for Baker Island. They would fly over it a few times, high above the non-existant skies and well into international airspace. The first pass would be of the western and southern sides of the island, after which they would go on for a moment and then make a wide turn, coming around to photograph the northern and eastern sides of the island on their return trip. All in all, they expected to take around 50,000 pictures, all of them stored on portable harddrives installed in a blast-proof titanium cage.

At the same time, a KH-20 would monitor the island along with a KH-21 SIGINT (Signal Intelligence) satellite in order to try to get a good reading of the defenses the Russians had on the island (air defenses and the like). The intelligence would be twindled into the potential invasion plans being drawn up. The Realm maintained a massive array of scenarios, and this intel gathering would help the Cots to determine how many ships and Marines they would need to send against the island in case of a war. Everyone hoped it wouldn't come to that, but they needed to be ready. That was why the SR-71 gathered information.

A couple of Tu-22s reequiped for high altitude recoinessance missions took off from one of the aircraft carriers and flew up high. Their mission was to gather info on all the foreign islands in the vacinity of the baker island, including Cottish islands.

OOC: Yeah, right, sorry, i must have missed the change. Also you can't fly over it you can fly 30 nm miles away from it. Unless you go to space.

OOC: Yeah that's what I meant. As for recce on my Pacific islands, I'm only occupying a few islands near Australia (Norfolk Island, Coral Sea Islands, Christmas Island and the Lord Howe Islands). Marines, warships and air defense sites is pretty much what you'll find there, as well as a few friendly fighters carefully watching your every move.

OOC: Yeah that's what I meant. As for recce on my Pacific islands, I'm only occupying a few islands near Australia (Norfolk Island, Coral Sea Islands, Christmas Island and the Lord Howe Islands). Marines, warships and air defense sites is pretty much what you'll find there, as well as a few friendly fighters carefully watching your every move.

OOC: Aight, your guys are surveid by my air-defense vessels, so mind that. Also my secret T-0 Bombers are parked in the waters outside the island, all 45 of those bombers, they are amphibious, so thats something for you to discover.

A massive convoy of converted freighters approached baker island flying the ensign of the Spizanian civil engineering company Confed. Engineering, the ships were loaded with modular equipment which they started installing on the Baker island, additional CANDU reactors, desalinistion plants, multiple electrolysis plants, and aerogel production facility and an offshore mulberry style harbour.
The island would be almost entirely covered in buildings, the abandoned WW2 airstrip was repaired and forced into use as a light cargo and small passenger strip.
Around the island a fleet of over a dozen suction line dredgers sucted away all material above a depth of 100m that was outside a wall built around the outside of the islands ground surface, the coral reef was carefully dugup and turned over to the care of the Spizanian coastguard who began moving it to its new resting place off the homelands coastline.

The material was sifted for silicon dioxide which was fed into the aerogel facility, in reality the whole assembly was devoted to the production of aerogel for the project, it was capable of producing the staggering ammount of five million tonnes per-day, an amount that would rise as the project progressed
The sattelites would not be able to miss the massive changes to the island, or the massive (100m tall, 850m long, 125m wide) stainless steel coated mild steel boxes that appeared at the harbour, were loaded with something extreemly light, were then moved around into contact with a part of the island surrounding wall, bounded to it and covered with concrete.
The spizanians and the puskhans were expanding baker island, and putting more of the same machinery on the new areas, allowing the process to pick up speed.

The operation was supervised by Russian VMS, should the need have arisen the Russian ships would do everything necessary to protect both Russian and Spizanian citizens.

The island had tripled in size in the four weeks since it had been begun, but that only meant a meagre expansion of just over three square kilometres. But now this space was filled by extra equipment, tripling the production of aerogel, a second mulberry harbour was built to handle the increased filling of the steel forms. The rate of the islands growth grew to some 1 km2 ever day, although this may seem small, it would continue to increase as the project inexorably ground on.

The growth rate was now 1.8km a day and the total size of the island was now approaching 14 square kilometres. In the deeper areas off the coast hydrostatic anchors were set in the sea bed, these were attached to the box hull arrays every kilometre using stainless steel cable and were pulled tight, anchoring the huge construction in the correct posistion. This would keep the array from breaking apart in storms or when under enemy attack.
The entire surface of the growing island was covered in factories pumping out aerogel to fill the steel forms.
The freighters that had brought the starting material to the site were converted to floating factories or powerplants with the addition to equipment or CANDU reactors in their cargo holds.

Sattelite Surveillance could not fail to notice this now.

The Island was now growing at a staggering 2.6 square kilometres a day, with a total size of nearly 32.2 square kilometres, soon the growth rate would jump again, but for now the constant stream of ships bearing new equipment continued.

The Cottish military intelligence kept a vigil eye on the procedings at Baker Island, and therefore they detected easily the rapid expansion of the island. It had grown massively over the last few days. It was now estimated that it was around 33 square kilometers large. The Cots would have to reconsider the forces needed to invade. Another thing that was detected was the presence of Russian naval forces, clearly protecting the island. It was certain now. The Cots needed more information on what was happening. It was decided to send a destroyer to snoop around.

17 hours later
The Indefatigable class destroyer entered the area, moving relatively slowly at only 15 knots. Her radars and antennas were gathering as much information as possible, but she was still in international waters, where she planned to remain for the duration of her stay. If the Russians wanted her away, they would have to force her. However, they wouldn't get her away without a fight. The weapons systems were on hot standby, meaning that they could be fired at seconds notice. However, from outside, it appeared that she was still peaceful with her weapons offline. The destroyer took up a position 37 nautical miles from Baker Island and cruised around the island at a leisurly 7 knots, with the ensign of the Royal Cottish Navy flying proudly in her mast, remaining in international waters.

OOC: How well is your ship hardened against EMP if at all? Can i see a write up?

OOC: Why you wondering about EMP protection? Anyway, here's (http://theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Sea/indefatigable.htm) the specs.

The island was approaching some seventy square kilometres in size as the new manufacturing plants on the expanded areas came online. The Cottish destroyer would soon have to move to avoid entering the Territorial waters of the advancing super Island, that they were allied to Spizania was not an issue. Three Illium Class Destroyers arrived in the area, flying the ensign of the Republican Spizanian Navy, that would make for interesting reading in the next day's intelligence report produced by the Cottish.

OOC: Is it Cottish or Cotlander?
Im also going to assume I or Puskha owns Howland Island now, being as Lay hasnt said anything atall despite having posted several times since.


IC:

On howland island a similar process was beginning, the island was over two square kilometres and growing at a similar rate to the Baker Island far to the south.

OOC2: As its growing in a very similar pattern to Baker, im not really going to mention Howland that much unless someone does what Cots doing at Baker/

OOC: It's Cottish. Just a quick question: how large do you intend to make the island(s)? Remember that there are prolly deep waters between Howland and Baker. You've got to take that into account. Also, got some specs on those destroyers?

CIC
"Sir, I've got three destroyers entering the area. It looks like they're Spizanian sir."

"Get a firing sollution for a few Harpoons on them, but don't let them know that we're targetting them."

"Aye sir."

The radar array got a good fix on the position of the three Spizanian destroyers and transmitted the position to the RGM-84L Harpoons in the four Mk.141 quad launchers placed around the hull and superstructure of the Indefatigable. The missiles detected the new targets quickly thanks to the datalink in their electronics, but remained in their launchers, waiting. None of this was known to the Spizanians of course. It was all internal in the ships electronics.

Bridge
The captain trotted around the large bridge, watching the destroyers coming into visual range. He stopped for a moment and looked down on the forecastle, ahead of the VLS cells. The 155mm AGS on the bow remained still in its position, but appearences can be deceptive. It was more than ready to unleash its deadly 155mm projectiles on the ships in case of hostilities, being manned by twelve sailors. He thought of what to do incase the inbound destroyers turned hostile. He would launch his Harpoons, followed by the cannon while he fired his cruise missiles, the classified Imsdal-design, at the island. It would mean war against both Spizania and the Russian Federation, but that was politics, something a soldier shouldn't be worried about. After having fired his missiles, he would haul arse away from Baker, doing his best to defend himself against the armaments that would certainly come after his ships. He had plenty of CIWS and RAMs to defend himself with, along with ESSMs and SM-3ERs against aircraft. He estimated having a 40 percent chance of surviving.

"Sir?"

The line of thinking was interrupted by the navigator in the back of the bridge.

"Yes?"

"Sir, the way it looks now, we're only about thirty-one nautical miles from Baker Island sir. We need to move ourselves if we are to remain in international waters."

"Very well. Helmsman, get us to five nautical miles from the territorial border. Keep us five nautical miles away from the territorial border at all times."

"Take us to five nautical from territorial waters and maintain five nautical, aye."

The helmsman did as ordered and brought the fourteen-thousand ton destroyer to 35 nautical miles from Baker Island, a distance which would be maintained at all times. That was possible thanks to the GPS navigation and various other high-tech navigation methods the destroyer was equipped with.

"Weapons officer!"

"Yes sir."

"Keep an eye on those destroyers. If they make any hostile moves against us, answer them. However, do not open fire unless fired upon. Understood?"

"Aye sir."

The destroyer manouvered into position, keeping away from the island while remaining in international waters. If anyone tried anything, the Cots were well within its right to defend itself, as defined in the Protection of the Realm Act (OOC: see signature), a law which was internationally recognized by several nations. It defined the right of Cottish warships to roam the seas at will, a right which the Cots would fight to defend. However, they wouldn't do anything unless attacked first.

ooc: I call god-mod: Baker Island is 1.64 km sq. 1.64 -> 70 that threaten to overtake a Cottish boat? It will take 5 years to create the three Palm Island, which are located directly on the coast of the UAE. Baker is in the middle of the Pacific. I'd change timeline for realism's sake. 1.8 km/day? :rolleyes: And how exactly is this being done? Just throwing money at something will not create an island: carrying out logistics and transportation would be nice.
And if we are allowed to just expand any territory we own what's to stop us from doing this everywhere? Not good for E2.

OOC: Before the Cottish arrived, i had been using a high-length day to time scale to allow this to be pumped out in a reasonable amount of time, from now until the Cottish leave the project will be dropping to about a .1km a day, theres also some major engineering problems that are difficult to overcome anywhere else (it wont take anything more than a light tropical storm before its finished), and this thing wont support anything larger than a ten story lightweight buildin, plus this is taking alarge proportion of my civil engineering infrastructure, and Pushkas helping bankrole it. These boxes are mass produced, and I dont have problems with soil sollidity like they do at Palm Island.

Plus, the thing wont work with anything less than hot tropical waters due to flotation and other engineering issues.
And ive said theres a stream of massive freighters running backwards and forwards between Baker and Spizania, although I agree I should probably go into that alot more.
Id be happy to provide full structural plans and supporting load maths, and calculations regarding production of required materials

This project will soon be approaching conclusion anyway. Im not going to join them up, into a solid mass, just create a sort of archipelego around them and artificial hydrostatic anchors.

ooc: no need to go into hordes of specific resources, we all seem to skim over that. Yeah, your soil should be better but you still have the problem of a massive supply line (not just number of ships but how long they take to get from port-to-port) Its fine to build up your nation and all, but I'll warn you ppl will not be very happy if you make a massive attack on their nation from a giant artificial island. The main dilemna is if we all were allowed to 'make' islands or expand our own territory thing could get screwy. The spreadsheet relies on RL values and if we were to change those bad thigns could happen (plus we'd all be nabbing iceburgs and building islands off of our enemies' coasts)

OOC: Everything millitary I will do from this island would be possible from the orriginal islands, using floating harbours and such like, there is already an airstrip on Baker in RL. What it is mainly for is to be turned into a vast city so i can actually have my full population somewhere other than my overcrowded mainland. And this requires that there be no intervention during the early stages of the op, right at the start a single raid could have stopped the whole thing dead, this makes it impractical for use of hostile coastlines.

The island was approaching some seventy square kilometres in size as the new manufacturing plants on the expanded areas came online. The Cottish destroyer would soon have to move to avoid entering the Territorial waters of the advancing super Island, that they were allied to Spizania was not an issue. Three Illium Class Destroyers arrived in the area, flying the ensign of the Republican Spizanian Navy, that would make for interesting reading in the next day's intelligence report produced by the Cottish.

OOC: Is it Cottish or Cotlander?
Im also going to assume I or Puskha owns Howland Island now, being as Lay hasnt said anything atall despite having posted several times since.


IC:

On howland island a similar process was beginning, the island was over two square kilometres and growing at a similar rate to the Baker Island far to the south.

OOC2: As its growing in a very similar pattern to Baker, im not really going to mention Howland that much unless someone does what Cots doing at Baker/

OOC: Howland island belongs to Hirgy, we got to let it go.

OOC: That is wierd.... Can we buy it from him?

OOC: It's Cottish. Just a quick question: how large do you intend to make the island(s)? Remember that there are prolly deep waters between Howland and Baker. You've got to take that into account. Also, got some specs on those destroyers?

OOC: So can i assume that they aren't EMP hardened? As for specs, Mac TGed them to me but i didn't save them and the TG disappeared, i need to recontact him.

OOC: That is wierd.... Can we buy it from him?

OOC: Doubtful.

OOC: Simple Just build a ring around them in international waters :D

Otherwise if were just going to do this on a city scale we could use archipelegos elsewhere in the tropics.

OOC: Everything millitary I will do from this island would be possible from the orriginal islands, using floating harbours and such like, there is already an airstrip on Baker in RL. What it is mainly for is to be turned into a vast city so i can actually have my full population somewhere other than my overcrowded mainland. And this requires that there be no intervention during the early stages of the op, right at the start a single raid could have stopped the whole thing dead, this makes it impractical for use of hostile coastlines.

OOC: Eh...i kind of own it and i do need it to store my Pacific fleet, but other then that, you can use it of course. I think there should be rules set, like the territorial waters are only measured from the original island and not from its expanding.

OOC: So can i assume that they aren't EMP hardened? As for specs, Mac TGed them to me but i didn't save them and the TG disappeared, i need to recontact him.
OOC: They've got basic EMP protection, like all my warships (well, except my carriers, battleships, battlecruisers and subs, which all have extensive EMP shielding) have. That means that they can cope with EMP shockwaves further away than 35 kilometers. Why you asking?

OOC: And youll be able to store your pacific fleet, this way is just easier to build and maintain, plus its near invulnerable to enemy torpedoes and ASMs.

Didnt you know, were testing a new generation of nuclear weapons of Baker Island :D j/k but he might be planning something hes not telling me about.

OOC: They've got basic EMP protection, like all my warships (well, except my carriers, battleships, battlecruisers and subs, which all have extensive EMP shielding) have. That means that they can cope with EMP shockwaves further away than 35 kilometers. Why you asking?

OOC: No reason. *Evil grin* You seen my ECEP Avrora write up?

OOC: Nope.

OOC: Sorry thats C-EPE Avrora. And its a secret project, thus no one except few people in my government know of its existance.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470839

Underground bunker, somethere in the Russian Federation

General-Polkovnik Letvinsky was speaking to his men in the intercom.

Letvinsky: "I have just received an order of great importance from the higher command of the Russian Federation armed forces. We as one of the first divisions to be created for operating the new Avrora system will be the first ones to use the weapon to protect the interests of our nation. The target information has been received by your commanding officers, such information is on a need to know basis only. During the time of the operation the movement around the base will be restricted to their cabins for the off-duty personnel and to their respective posts for the on-duty personel. Anyone caught suspiciously wandering in the whole without my personnel permission to do so will be arrested and interrigated. Heh...."

He took a deep breath.

"...С Богом"

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One floor above in the room field with computer monitors and cables men of the highly classified sub-division of the R/C-R started quickly typing in coordinates and checking the status of the satelite, reporting to their section officers every ten minutes. Slowly the satelite started moving into position to fire. It was disguised as a civilian commercial traffic transmitter, it was even owned by a civilian satelite TV company based in Moscow and it was infact transmitting television broadcasts, the emitted antenna was erectable and was in its paceful state no longer then the rest, however the satelite was much larger then a usual broadcasting satelite would be. It was positioned 400 km from the Cottish ship. This was planned perfectly. The satelite would fire, the sensors of the Cottish ship would go offline, all the data on them would be burned and there will be nothing left to identify the cause. Eventually after they recovered the ship, the Cots would realize that this was caused by EMP, but there will be nothing to suggest that the Russian Federation did it. The satelite by that time would be on the other side of the earth and even in the unlikely event that the Cots were tracking a what they knew was a civilian satelite, above the Pacific ocean, it was still 400 km away from the vessel in addition to that not Cots nor anybody knows about the existance of the Avrora program. This was infact, perfect.

A young operator spoke into his headset.

Operator: "Third section reports. Satelite is in the position."

The officer sitting in a different room transfered the message to General-Polkovnik.

Officer1: "Satelite is in position. Third section confirms."

Letvinsky: "First, second and fourth sections, do you confirm?"

Officer2: "Section 4 confirms."

Officer3: "Section 1 confirms."

Officer4: "Section 2 confirms. The satelite is in position."

Letvinsky waited a second before speaking into his intercom.

Letvisnky: "Огонь!"

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All measurements were done and triple checked, the satelite was in position, the parameters were set to fry all electronics on the Cottish ship. The computer responded to the command given to it from the ground with only a few seconds lag. The battery started charging up and the emitter antenna extended full way. Second later the signal was emitted in a single impulse drying up the generator. The impulse travelled at the speed of light and it hit the mark perfectly, something was about to happen on the Cottish vessel that they did not expect.

OOC: Very nice. Too bad you fail to remember that since we're so damned paranoid about you, we monitor every satellite operated by the Russian government and all Russian companies. You are aware that you've just declared war on me, right? One more question. How badly was your ships affected by this EMP? They must have been hit at least a little bit. Otherwise, I call Godmod and you can ignore what's below.

The radar operator on the Indefatigable sat on his post, monitoring the situation when all of a sudden his console blew in his face, sending him falling out of the chair and into the floor with a face shattered by small fragments of metal and liquid crystals burning. Around him, the whole ship shuddered and power flicked off. Around the ship, power relays and electronics blew out and all power was lost. The reactor went into an automatic shutdown, preventing any freak accidents. The captain of the destroyer tried contacting the outside world, but everything electronic, even his wristwatch, was dead. They were under attack! Fortunately, the MG26A2 heavy machine guns didn't require electricity to operate, neither did the small-arms. The ship was already on defensive alert, and now it went to max as best it could. The sailors armed themselves, tended to their injured and dead shipmates and tried their best to get the power back on while they waited for an attempt to board the destroyer. If they tried, they would be in for one hell of a fight, as the sailors had no intention of surrendering. They had ammunition enough to hold off any boarder for extended periods of time while they waited and hoped for rescue.

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In the surveilance bunker somewhere in Norway, an officer in the Space Command sounded the alarm. As a matter of routine, Cottish surveilance satellites, radars, SIGINT aircraft and various other information-gathering things maintained all satellites which had any sort of affiliation with the Russian Federation. The Cots were very paranoid when it came to the Russians. They simply didn't trust them one bit, and now they had reason to. A KH-20H Decanteur spy satellite had monitored what seemed to be a commercial TV satellite which had spiked and released something which seemed like an EMP pulse, straight down to a position roughly 35 nautical miles from Baker Island. The information was passed on to the High Command, which knew that a Cottish destroyer was in roughly that position. Immediately, it was contacted. However, there were no contact from the destroyer. Another satellite was redirected to look for the destroyer, and it was found roughly where it was supposed to be. However, it seemed like many of the crew were on the deck, and it seemed adrift. Something was very wrong! A CVBG was diverted from patrol and sent towards Baker Island to assist the destroyer.

At an airbase in the Comoros, an especially modified F-37D Razor fighter was fitted with a very expensive piece of hardware, a single ASM-212A ASAT II costing $2.5 million. This missile was designed for one purpose and one purpose alone: the destruction of satellites in space. It was fitted to the Razor while the crew waited for orders and a target. Needless to say, Space Command was tracking the satellite in question without hessitation. If the Russians had fired an EMP weapon on a Cottish warship, it was a defacto decleration of war on the Realm of Cotland and they wanted to be ready.

OOC: It is impossible for Pebblebeds to meltdown, it is the whole point of the design!!!!!

OOC: Hmm... it is? Didn't know that. Lemme check it and get back to you.

OOC: Very nice. Too bad you fail to remember that since we're so damned paranoid about you, we monitor every satellite operated by the Russian government and all Russian companies. You are aware that you've just declared war on me, right? One more question. How badly was your ships affected by this EMP? They must have been hit at least a little bit. Otherwise, I call Godmod and you can ignore what's below.

OOC: This is a concenrtated EMP impulse, plus my ships are away, it only was targeting you. There is no way you could monitor my every satelite, that is completely impossible. That is a godmod. And even if you knew there my satelite was at the time this happened, they is no way you would know it emmitted the EMP wave. Plus you don't even know what happened to your ship, you didn't examine the damage, you did nothing, thus you don't even know if it was EMP.

OOC: This is a concenrtated EMP impulse, plus my ships are away, it only was targeting you. There is no way you could monitor my every satelite, that is completely impossible. That is a godmod. And even if you knew there my satelite was at the time this happened, they is no way you would know it emmitted the EMP wave.
OOC: Not getting into a pissing match with you, so I'm gonna refute your points here and leave it with that. If you so desperately want a pissing match, go to Lays forums and do it there.

I accept that your ships were a distance away and thus not hit. OK. However, it is entirely possible to track every satellite. In RL, the USAF does it, the Russian air force does it. Everyone capable of doing it does it. Let us not forget that most of the nations in E2 are well beyond present-day US and Russia, so it is entirely possible. Radar surveilance sites, electronic information gathering aircraft (example: US EP-3C) and satellites does it, and spy satellites does it. I described in the post how I did it.

As for the EMP wave. Do you really think that it is impossible to detect a massive release of energy directed at one point on the earth, especially when I'm watching your satellites? Please. You claim that this weapon is based on the Goldeneye EMP weapon from the James Bond film. If you have ever seen the film, you would know that it is visible with the naked eye when it fires the EMP weapon. Why should it not be detectable by people who are watching your satellites? Believe me, it is detectable.

Again, I'm not getting into a pissing match, so if you wanna argue this further, take it to Lays forums, cuz I won't reply to any bitching and moaning here.

OOC:

Its not impossible to monitor all satellites in orbit around the earth, NASA does it everyday. The Russian Space Federation does also, the dangers to the International Space Station warrant such a vigil along with potential reentry of "space junk" into the atmosphere that might do some harm to the populace. While you may have the secret of the EMP satellite, the satellite itself is definitely trackable, along with all the others in outer space.

-Hawdawg

As for the EMP wave. Do you really think that it is impossible to detect a massive release of energy directed at one point on the earth, especially when I'm watching your satellites? Please. You claim that this weapon is based on the Goldeneye EMP weapon from the James Bond film. If you have ever seen the film, you would know that it is visible with the naked eye when it fires the EMP weapon. Why should it not be detectable by people who are watching your satellites? Believe me, it is detectable.

They don't watch my satelites, they may know there my satelites are but you can not track everything my satelites are doing every single second, you can track movement. Also i didn't say they were like those in the golden eye. EMP wave is invisible.

Again, I'm not getting into a pissing match, so if you wanna argue this further, take it to Lays forums, cuz I won't reply to any bitching and moaning here. [/SIZE]

Maybe you shouldn't be producing any.

Anyways, act as a good RPer, investigate the matter, accuse my government and all that, but don't jump the gun.

OOC:

Its not impossible to monitor all satellites in orbit around the earth, NASA does it everyday. The Russian Space Federation does also, the dangers to the International Space Station warrant such a vigil along with potential reentry of "space junk" into the atmosphere that might do some harm to the populace. While you may have the secret of the EMP satellite, the satellite itself is definitely trackable, along with all the others in outer space.

-Hawdawg

My point being that he can track its movement, but not its output.

OOC:

Its not impossible to monitor all satellites in orbit around the earth, NASA does it everyday. The Russian Space Federation does also, the dangers to the International Space Station warrant such a vigil along with potential reentry of "space junk" into the atmosphere that might do some harm to the populace. While you may have the secret of the EMP satellite, the satellite itself is definitely trackable, along with all the others in outer space.

-Hawdawg

OOC: True, and one can detect a large build-up of energy (which is necessary if one is to release sufficient energy to create an EMP wave) in the satellite too if one is monitoring it close enough, which I am. I believe that I with my defense budget, which our "Russian" friend is so fond of refering to, which holds over $20T can afford to have enough satellites to monitor quite a bit, Russian satellites included. SIGINT and ELINT is standard on my spy-satellites anyway.

OOC: Really? How exactly do you monitor build up of electric energy? That is impossible. Also no matter what defense budget you have no way you can know outputs of my every satelite in the air.

How do you know that it was EMP? You don't, you haven't examined the damage closely enough. And no you can not see an EMP wave.

Anyways, if you'll act like you know about how my satelite emitted the EMP i will call in a godmod and i'll be right on the money. You can not know what my satelite is emitting, neither can you detect high build ups of energy, thats sci-fi tech, its not MT. Thats all there is to it.

My point being that he can track its movement, but not its output.

OOC:
That's not what you said, you said monitoring all your satellites was impossible. But I am glad we agree that tracking them all is very feasible. You know where mine are and I know where yours are. LOL, why couldn't you have fired a warning shot instead?

OOC:

In my books monitoring equals tracking and getting such info as energy build up. Tracking is tracking. Anyways, if Cot is a good RPer then he'll invesitage the matter, end up with no conclusion as the RL tech permits, become more suspicious of me and move on. If all his talk about being good RPer is bull (which with his character it probably is) he'll coninue doing what he is doing right now and i'll call it for what it is, which is GodMod. Anyways, anymore of those provocative comments from him and i'll report him for trolling. I am not getting involved in a pissing match so child (Cot), grow up. Anyways, its your move.

Tokyo, Japan

The news had reached the Japanese Government rather with a devastating force. The Temporary PM took his time in reading it, his 'Temporary' services before the Japanese first Election would be one filled with quite the adventure. He sighed, and thought to himself, then called in his secretary to make a direct com-link to all forces stationed in the Mediterranean Sea. She took the order, and left the room. He then recieved a call, with the undeniable ring signifying it was a patch-in. He sighed once more, and picked up the phone.

Somewhere southeast of Sicily

The Admiral of the two fleets was bussy filing his daily report. They have had no contact with-in the Government for months now, somewhat bored actually. But then something was brought to his attention by an eager Seaman, he picked up his phone and heard a voice that sempt so distant to him.

Transcript of the phone call

Junichiro Koizumi - Greetings Admiral, this is the Prime Minister speaking.

Admiral Niboru - Good day Mr. Koizumi, how glad I am to be recieving a call from someone of your position. I hear the Elections are to be under way soon, am I correct?

Koizumi - Yes, you are correct Admiral. Now, to bring you up to speeds with our international affairs. But first, what condition are you and your men in?

Niboru - Well, they are ready to fight if that is what you needed to know.

Koizumi - Good, that is all I needed to know. Are you with-in contact with our ground forces still stationed outside of Innsbruck?\

Niboru - I am sure we can establish a com-link. What are your orders besides that though, sir?

Koizumi - Nothing as of yet. I am speaking with you without the Diets' knowledge. I believe they will be expecting me to hold a conference with-in the hour. I shall contact you again soon.

Niboru - Yes, and thank you sir. I shall be awaiting your call, I'll let our forces in Austria no that it may be a bright idea to wake up.

OOC -

Try talking to about 5 girls on the phone while one is on AIM in the same house...who are bored and...well I won't tell you the second word...so I'll get back to you asap.

OOC: Also Cot, an EMP wave would not cause explosions and all that stuff, it would crispy fry all the transistors, that might cause minor fire, but that would not make anything explode or anything like that.

OOC: Psy, i am confused, what are you doing?

OOC: As I said Pushycat, not going there.

Oslo - 40 minutes later
The information gathered so far indicated that the destroyer had been attacked by something. However, just what was uncertain. What they did know was that a Cottish destroyer near a place where the Russians had naval forces had dropped out of communications, and that a satellite with Russian connections had flown in the immediate area when they had lost contact with it. The destroyer had been linked into the regional information-sharing system when the datalink with it had been severed, so they had a pretty accurate time of when whatever happened to it happened. They matched that with tracking records from Space Command, and found that the skies in the immediate area were clear when it happened, save for one Russian satellite. Furthermore, satellite images indicated that there had been no physical attack on the destroyer. There were no fires, no smoke or any holes in the destroyer. Everything pointed to an attack with one of the following.
- a computer virus
- an electromagnetic pulse
- a boarding party
- massive electronic jamming

Of those alternatives, the computer virus was ruled out immediately. The firewalls on the computers aboard Cottish warships were pretty damned impossible to break down through. Besides, the computers were part of a closed system with only the datalink, which was heavily encrypted with a 4096-bit encryption. The virus was impossible.

A boarding party was the next option. Possible, but highly unlikely to have occured without the crew repelling it and informing the Cottish area command. The boarders would also have come from somewhere, such as boats or ships. There would also have been dead bodies on deck and soldiers standing guard. However, everything from the satellite surveilance currently watching the destroyer indicated that the crew were standing guard, manning the heavy machine guns along the sides of the ship, standing guard.

Massive electronic jamming was a possibility, but then it would have been detected by the Signals Intelligence and Electronic Intelligence sensor packages on the satellite, which wasn't detecting anything. Even if it was only on for a short period of time, the destroyer would have been able to contact the area command when the jamming was stopped. Jamming was definately out of the question.

That left only one option if it wasn't an accident aboard the destroyer. Electromagnetic pulse. If so, it was either the Spizanians or the Russians, and the Russians were the only ones with a satellite overhead at the moment the destroyer went silent. Everything lead to the conclusion that the Russians had detonated a EMP weapon at the destroyer. A de facto decleration of war on the Realm of Cotland.

However, being politicians, the government didn't want to do anything untill after they had questioned the crew of the destroyer. It was drifting away from Baker Island slowly, but CVBG 21 would be at the location of the destroyer in eight hours. They were currently going at full speed towards Baker Island and sending aircraft to watch over the destroyer. The carrier and cruisers were extensively hardened against EMP weapons, and could operate as normal even if attacked with such weapons.


Pacific Ocean
In the air over the Pacific, a relatively large air fleet flew fast. A KA-3C Skywarrior refueling aircraft, three F-37G Razor fighters armed with air to air missiles and air to ground missiles, two F-39C Typhoon fighters armed with air to air missiles, a MS-11A Dagger ocean surveilance aircraft and an RA-5E Vigilante reconnisance aircraft. They were all flying at 900 knots, flying fast towards the location of the destroyer. The five-ship flight was in a loose formation, cruising through the air 35,000 feet up. The security of the Realm was at stake, and the group would defend itself and the destroyer if the Russians should choose to take advantage of the situation.


OOC:

ETA for the carrier group: 7 hours, 53 minutes.
ETA for the aircraft: 1 hour, 2 minutes.

OOC: The overload caused by frying control electronics could superheat the displays and other equipment, causing it to gas off and explode.

OOC: The satelite was 400 kilometers away as i have stated in my post, it was not overhead. Thus your whole chain falls apart. Also you can not claim that there were no other satelites overhead.

IC:

The other 7 Flotillas and the submarine divisions were ordered to come closer to the Baker island and back up the 2 Flotillas already stationed there.

Message from the Russian government

We are moving our forces to respond to movement of Cottish naval vessels towards the Baker island. We would like to ask the Cottish government about the reason for the move of their forces in such a great number towards our territorial waters.

OOC: The overload caused by frying control electronics could superheat the displays and other equipment, causing it to gas off and explode.

OOC: thats doubtful but i might be wrong, so k.

Oslo
"Sir, the latest data is in. It was an EMP sir. Sensor data from the satellite confirms it." the officer said to the General and Prime Minister.

"So it's confirmed. The Russians fired an EMP against us. We're at war." Rothsky said with a heavy heart. He had hoped til the very last that the Russians were better than that. That they were wiser than firing the first shot. Apparently, they weren't and the advocates for military action against Russia had gotten their beliefs confirmed.

"The Russians are also demanding to know why we are sending warships towards Baker Island." the officer added. General Archer, the military commander for the Cottish military laughed a sarcastic and mocking laugh.

"Demand?! Sir, I recommend we hold still and mobilize."

"I... I need to talk with the King. Mobilize the miltiary in the meanwhile. Inform our allies of the situation."

"Yes sir."

Rothsky exited the room while General Archer issued the proper orders. Five minutes later, the military forces of the Realm mobilized.

OOC: Don't start with the whole "you can't see it" bulls***.

From http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/nuke-test.htm
The Vela satellites were deployed in support of the Limited Test Ban Treaty of 1963 and carried sensors designed at Los Alamos and Sandia National Laboratories to detect nuclear explosions in the atmosphere and in space. The satellites were launched in pairs beginning in 1963. The last and sixth pair was launched in 1970. Each satellite carried two optical sensors, called bhangmeters, to view Earth and detect atmospheric nuclear explosions associated with unique, telltale signatures of brief, intense light pulses. The satellites also carried an electromagnetic pulse sensor.
And this was in the 1960s. Don't you think technology has come a wee bit further since then?

OOC: I don't understand how that concludes that your satelites could detect an energy output. Also for all you ever knew about this is that this was a civilian satelite, thus...make your own conclusions. Anyways if you want to turn this into a war, then okay, but i'll be sure to condemn you for firing the first shot.

Also, maybe you should research how those sensors work. Doesn't the EMP have to hit the sensor in order for the sensor to detect it? Or how else does it work?

OOC: Very simple. My spy satellites have EMP sensors as part of their sensor package, and thus can detect the EMP being fired. As for the identity of the owner, I assume the satellites were launched from Russian territory. It belongs to a Russian company and I don't think you would shoot up anything from your soil without knowing what the payload is. Remember that I've tracked it since it was launched. Simple logic and deductioning sorts the rest. Now, shut up and RP.

OOC: I still find the idea of you closely monitoring my every satelite ridiculus, but oh well. Lets go. You'd have to try to attack me in order for me to do anything. Lets rumble!

On a side note, Cot man, i really don't want to have a problem with you OOCly, i hope you realize that.

OOC: I still find the idea of you closely monitoring my every satelite ridiculus, but oh well. Lets go. You'd have to try to attack me in order for me to do anything. Lets rumble!

On a side note, Cot man, i really don't want to have a problem with you OOCly, i hope you realize that.
OOC: First things first. It can detect the EMP due to the variations in the radio band the EMP creates. There is no way to mask that. The satellites detect that radio variation, which spans over the entire radio band. Or so Global Security and various other sites claim.

OOCly, I only have problems with you when you claim stupid things, act stupidly and constantly edit your posts! Other than that, you seem decent enough, though I must admit that there have been times when I've wanted to beat you to within a millimeter of your life for your comments (yeah I'm a bit aggressive, but who cares?).

OOC: I can't help it if things appeal to me after i have pressed the "post" button. Also as for "beat within inches of life" trust me brother i know the feeling. Anyways, lets make this a good one.

OOC -

Pushka - The point of my post is to make things unclear.

OOC: Congratulations then.

Holy Republic of Hawdawg
Office of the Prime Minister
Stockholm, Sweden

Prime Minister Wales sat in the dimly-lit office reading the Flash Message from Cottish CENTCOM. The message was clear. The Russians had launched an unprovoked attack on a Cottish Naval Vessel monitoring the suspicious Russian activity on Baker Island. Cottish Command suspected an EMP attack of some sort, most likely from an orbital platform. This information would be confirmed later in the day. Time almost stood still as PM Wales looked at Defense Minister Wells.

“Well Gordon we have been tap-dancing around the Russian problem for several years now, it looks as if we may have some finality to this subject after all. Assemble the Joint Chief’s; it looks as if war is upon us. I want all the contingency plans for Russian targets of opportunity on my desk in 30 minutes. Mobilize our forces, we have yet to make a formal declaration, but I want our people in place when we do.

Send an encrypted message to the Cottish Government, the FAG Dallas and BG Hondo are West of Tuvalu and are moving at speed towards Baker Island. Currently they are 550nm from the Island and moving at maximum speed to assist there disabled vessel. Remind the Admiral to run multiple ASW patrols the Russians will undoubtedly be patrolling. In the game of chicken, the winner is the one how doesn’t blink first.”

Defense Minister Wells: “Sir are you authorizing the use of force against the Russians before a formal declaration?”

PM Wales: “Wells, in tense situations things happen. We have to remain fluid in this situation. If our forces identify a non-friendly acting in a “hostile” manner they must take proper steps to ensure the safety of Hawdawg assets. Cotland has been attacked. Our planes providing air cover are authorized to engage any hostiles acting in an aggressive manner towards the disabled Cottish vessel or themselves. IF this thing turns cold again, we can always label this action or actions as “the fog of perceived hostilities”. Now send that message to the Cottish High Command, and inform them we will communicate with them the status of the vessel and crew once we make contact.”


128 bit-encryption
ALPHA Cypher

To: COTTISH HIGH COMMAND
From: HAWDAWG DoD

Have dispatched FAG Dallas and BG Hondo to Baker Island. Will advise status of disabled vessel and crew upon contact. Fighter cover has been dispatched from Carrier ETA Destroyer 6 minutes. Will advise. Hostile vessels in the area. We are going HOT.
Repeat we are going HOT.

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Inbound towards Baker Island
70,000 ft.

Combat Group Spine consisting of four F-63KD Tengriy’s moved across the sky at a paltry 1.95 Mach towards the disabled Cottish Destroyer. Armed to the teeth each plane carried a mixture of (6)VEE-RAID, (4)AIM-120D, (5)IRIS-T, and (2) AGM-84L Harpoon’s in addition to its formidable 30mm cannon. The first mission on this sortie was to establish an effective presence over the Cottish Destroyer. When the flight picked up the vessels at range they dropped from 70,000 feet down to 1,000 feet to make a visual pass on Destroyer to establish contact and survey the damage.

Flight Leader: “Mother Duck this is Spine we have a visual on the Destroyer, making a fly by now, over.”

As CG Spine flew by the destroyer some movement was detected on deck. The vessel was clearly dead in the water and most disturbing was the lack of any heat generating operations coming from the vessel. It was clear something was desperately wrong. One more pass was made by the ship, this time wings up. Hopefully someone on deck would recognize the Hawdawg symbols and understand they were in safe hands.

More troublesome was the growing presence of enemy vessels in the area.

Flight Leader: “Attention Spizanian Naval Vessels, you are hereby instructed to remove yourselves from the area of the Cottish Destroyer. She has been attacked by the Russian Military and you will be engaged as a combatant should you remain in the immediate vicinity of this vessel. We have come to the aide of this vessel and will defend her from any aggression. We advise you to bug out, over.”


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Immediate ORBAT for this engagement

Fast Attack Group Dallas (Lautoka, Fiji)
(1) George Washington Class Carrier
[(72) Total Aircraft: (24) F/A-63KD, (30) F-91D, (8) SH-60L SeaHawk, (2) E-2D AWACS Hawkeye-2000, (2) RA-5E Vigilante, (4) CH-46 Sea Knight]
(8) Ardent Class Frigates
(6) Revenge Class Destroyers
(6) Point Catilan Class Escort Frigates
(4) Centaur Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(4) Dolphin II Class SSN’s
(2) Centaur-X Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(2) Sabre Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(2) Anakara Class Guided Missile Cruisers
(2) Berlin Class Land Attack Cruisers
(2) Vulkan Class Arsenal Ships

Battle Group Hondo (Suva, Fiji)
(4) Ragnarok Class Battleships
(4) Anakara Class Guided Missile Cruisers
(4) Berlin Class Land Attack Cruisers
(3) Mexia Class Battle Cruisers
(10) Ardent Class Frigates
(6)Sabre Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(2) Dolphin II Class SSN's
(4) SSN-21 Seawolf Class
(2) Vulkan Class Arsenal Ships

Ministry of Defense, Oslo
The MoD was a flurry of activity. The military personell had armed themselves with sidearms (P33A1 USPs) in the hip-holsters, while the civilians had taken off their jackets. Marine guards had changed from the normal Class A uniform they normally wore to green DPUs and combat gear. AG11A1 assault rifles were also present, indicating that this was a serious situation indeed. Still, everyone did their work. General Archer entered the MoD and looked over the situation board. All Home Guards districts reported that they were mobilizing, all Army units were readying for a fight, the Air Force was on max alert with constant fighter CAPs around the Realm, as was confirmed by the twelve F-63K Tengriys flying over the capital in pairs. The Air Defense Command was also at max alert, ready to shoot down anything which seemed out of place. And finally, the Navy was preparing for war. Submarines were taking up position in the strait between mainland Norway, Bjørnøya and Svalbard along with carriers and surface combatants to block any attempt of passage into the Atlantic Ocean while AABGs were preparing for anything which may come. The message from the Hawdawgians was recieved and handed to General Archer as he entered the hub, as the large operations room with large LCD displays on the walls and mapping tables was called. It seemed their allies were sending naval forces to assist the destroyer, which had been identified as the HMS Standhaftig.

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512-bit Encryption
To: Hawdawg DoD
From: Cottish MoD

"We have recieved your transmission and thank you for your assistance. Cottish naval aviation is en route along with a CVBG. ETA for naval aviation wil be in 32 minutes, ETA for CVBG will be 7 hours, 23 minutes. Can you establish contact with the vessel (HMS Standhaftig [D-546])? We are unable to establish contact at the moment."

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HMS Standhaftig
The crewman on the heavy machine gun saw the aircraft approach and took up a good aim. He flipped the setting to fully automatic and prepared to open fire when the officer next to him called out for him to stop. The crewman did as ordered, and quickly saw why. The fighters were marked with Hawdawgian identification markings. Friendlies! The crewmen on the outside started cheering and waving at the friendly fighters. A flaggkvartermester had a bright idea and ran in and fetched a powerful flashlight. On his way, an officer asked what he was doing, so the NCO explained his intentions quickly. The officer nodded and dragged the man up to the bridge, where the Captain trotted around.

"Kaptein. Flaggkvart Jensen har en ide om hvordan vi kan kontakte Hawdawgerne." [Sir. Chief Jensen has an idea of how we can contact the Hawdawgians.]

"Jaha? Vel, jeg lytter." [Really? Well, I'm listening.]

"Kaptein. Det er egentlig utrolig enkelt. Vi tar denne lykta og blinker i morsekode til flya over oss." [Sir, it's really incredibly simple. We take this flashlight and flash morse code to the planes overhead.]

That got the attention of the Captain, who immediately endorsed the idea and pulled the NCO out on the starboard bridgewing. He said the message to the chief, who started flashing the message in morse code to the aircraft overhead. The message read as follows:

"Have lost all power. Reason uncertain. Believe some form of electromagnetic weapon. Dead in the water. Four KIA, seventeen WIA. Will defend the ship. Request immediate assistance."

The message was repeated four times while the crew worked relentlessly to restart the reactor, which has gone into automatic shutdown. It wouldn't be able to be restarted untill 12 hours after the shutdown due to the security precautions the builders had installed. Too bad most of the electronics had been fried beyond any repair. The Standhaftig would need to have an extended stay in a shipyard, replacing the electronics and such. No one knew if it would be more cost-effective just to decommission her and build a new ship. Time would tell.

"This area is under the shared authority of both Russia and Spizania, these are our territorial waters, we will defend ourselves if attacked, any bombardment or assault on Baker Island, the project vessels or this destroyer squadron will be construed as an act of war"

OOC: Well done Pushka, you just declared war on Cotland. Excellent work. You also did it very close to my islands. Kudos.

IC:

There wasn't much of anything on Howland Island, just a Coast Guard outpost and airfield that took up most of the top surface, and a large lighthouse at one end. Below the airfield, however, was a Space Corps bunker, similar to the ones on most of the Commonwealth's outlying islands. It was already transmitting data back and forth with other units on mainland sites, trying to corroberate whether an EMP was fired or not. By the end of the day, the conclusion was that one had, indeed, been fired by the Russians.

The Coast Guard unit on the island, the 8th Guard Fleet (CGF-1), immediately went on alert, the planes on the island, from the 11th Guard Wing also went on alert, ready to launch at a moment's notice. A P-3C had already made a pass over the stricken Cottish vessel, but had been unable to raise the crew on open frequencies. Now a lone Sprunace Class destroyer was making its way out toward the vessel.

From Australia the 2nd Fleet had already put to sea and were making headway out towards the gaggle of islands in the Pacific. ETA: 27 Hours.


Encrypted Mesage
To:Hawdawg High Command
From: COH Naval Command, Australia

"We are tracking your planes around Howland Island, permission has been granted for them to use Islands Airfield. Contact Coast Guard Unit there on secure Frequency. One Coast Guard Fleet is in the area, one Sprunace Class is closing in on Cottish vessel. Repeat, freindlies are close to Cottish Vessel."

Encrypted Mesage
To: Cotland DoD
From: COH Naval Command, Australia

"We have units approaching stricken vessel (HMS Standhaftig [D-546]). Have not been able to establish contact yet. Coast Guard units on Howland are still trying. Have 2 Fleets on the way, ETA 27 Hours. Please Advise on Cottish Plans."



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ORBAT:

8th CGF

5 Sprunace Class Destroyer
5 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Class Guided Missile Destroyer
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Guided Missile Frigate
2 Cyclone Class Coast Patrol
2 Osprey Class Minehunter
1 San Antonio Class LPD
3 Los Angeles Class SSN
2 Seawolf Class SSN
1 THAADS Missile Cruiser
1 MEADS Frigate

8th Guard Wing (On Board 8th CGF's Ships)

6 SH-60R ASWH
4 AH-1Z
5 Fire Scout UAV
5 Skyrocket Helicopter (Dual M240G and 2xPenguin Anti-Shipping Missiles)


11th Guard Wing (Based at Howland Field)

2 SH-60R ASWH
2 AH-1Z
2 P-3C Orion
10 JSF-35
10 F-78B Sokol
10 F/A-18E
10 F-22A
5 C-2A Greyhound
2 EP-3E Aries II
2 S-3B Viking
2 C-130J
1 E-3 Sentry
2 Skyrocket Helicopter


2nd Fleet:

2 Imrpoved Nimitz Class CVN's
2 Vampire Class CVN's
10 Ticonderoga Class
10 Arleigh-Burke AEGIS Class
8 Oliver-Hazard Perry Class
2 Improved Iowa Class Battleship
4 San Antonio Class LPD
10 Sea Shadow IV
5 Torrent Class Missile Launching Arsenal Ship
4 Missouri Class Battleship (Battleship numbers have to be updated on complete ORBAT Lists, there are now 4 Missouri Class per Fleet)
2 THAADS Missile Cruiser
2 MEADS Missile Frigate

Each Nimitz Class CVN has the following Air Compliment:

2 C-2
4 E-2D
4 EA-6H ICAP III
8 S-3B
12 F-78B
16 F/A-18E
16 F/A-18F
2 F/A-18G
4 HH-60G
2 SH-60B
2 SH-60F


Each Vampire Class CVN has the following Air Compliment:

2 C-2
2 E-2D
2 SH-60B
2 SH-60F
8 AH-1Z
12 JSF-35N
6 CH-53G

OOC: Yeah this did happen at an awkward time, but oh well, it was ought to happen sooner or later anyways. What i don't understand yet is, is this the kind of thing as with Panthea there Cot just siezed an island then he was "attacked" or is this the all out war. Anyways i am mobilizing for the second one so if i am wrong let me know.

IC:

Enemy forces were moving, there was no room left for politics. This was war, the bloody, the horrifying goddess of mass murder. The world was staring at the apocalypse and the void did not blink.

All of forces in the Pacific were being pulled to the baker island. Since they were away and had no access to base then the modifications began, their hulls were not reinforced with Russian-Tyrandy wondermetal. However they were still fine ships and the whole fleet had 1125 Lu-25 jet fighters on board, it was time to give the October Alliance hell it so strongly deserved.

ORBAT in the Pacific:

Fleet: Pacific Expeditionary Force 1

Commander: Admiral of the Fleet Gregory Afanasiev Mishin

Above Surface Forces:

2nd Artic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


4th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


8th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


13th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


14th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


15th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


19th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


26th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


30th Arctic Fleet Flotilla

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:1
Illium class Destroyer: 4
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 3
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 4
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 5
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 125
Marines: 3000


Below Surface Forces:

5th Podvodnaia Divizia

Cartagena class SSN: 30
Tenerife class SSH: 10
Valencia class SSK: 10
Cadiz class SSBN: 10


6th Podvodnaia Divizia

Cartagena class SSN: 30
Tenerife class SSH: 10
Valencia class SSK: 10
Cadiz class SSBN: 10


9th Podvodnaia Divizia

Cartagena class SSN: 30
Tenerife class SSH: 10
Valencia class SSK: 10
Cadiz class SSBN: 10

10th Podvodnaia Divizia

Cartagena class SSN: 30
Tenerife class SSH: 10
Valencia class SSK: 10
Cadiz class SSBN: 10

Total Forces:

Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier:9
Illium class Destroyer: 36
Seydlitz class Cruiser: 27
Paramount class Air Defense Vessel: 36
Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel: 45
Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft: 1125
Marines: 27000
Cartagena class SSN: 120
Tenerife class SSH: 40
Valencia class SSK: 40
Cadiz class SSBN: 40

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TOP SECRET EQUIPMENT:

T-0 Bomber: 45

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The sun was rising as the jet fighters took to the sky and death went on a search for its newest prey.

Above the HMS Standhaftig

As the F-63KD's made there pass over the deck of the Standhaftig the WCO of the lead plane noticed something.

WCO Bearclaw: "Cappy, I can't get any response from the Cott's on the radio. Wait! Look there do you see it? Morse Code, bring her around again I only got a glimpse of it."

The two Tengriy's banked hard and made another slow pass over the quarterdeck as the WCO jotted down the message on his notepad.

WCO Bearclaw: "Lost all power. Dead in water. Unknown reason. Electromagnetic weapon. 4 KIA 17 WIA. Defending ship. This message repeats Cappy. Damn I am glad I remembered all that morse code from the Academy."

Cappy (Flight Leader): "Go to SATCOM-6 encrypt it, and get it to CVAN Hollister ASAP, the Cottish High Command needs to now this. I can return them a signal with our forward landing light. Hang on heading to the deck."

Cappy brought his Tengriy down to 500 feet over a mile from the Standhaftig and began to send his message.

"Message received. Forwarding to MoD Norway. FAG enroute. We will provide cover. Carpe Diem."

Cappy: "I hope they got that. Lets get some altitude, I want to see what's out there. Have those Spizanian Destroyer's responded?"

WCO Bearclaw: "Yeah, its not good. They say they are defending there territory and won't budge. Hell they could have attacked the Cott's for all we know."

Cappy: "Yeah I know, range them and request permission to engage from Hollister."

WCO Bearclaw pulled up his LCD and readied the (2) AGM-84L Harpoon's for launch. A firing solution was pulled up in what seemed like nanoseconds as the area of operations over the Standhaftig became hotter.

WCO Bearclaw: "Sir, we have mutliple surface contacts on a bearing 629, moving 20+ knots."

Cappy: "Russian Flotilla, from our briefing this morning. Two groups where in the area. The soup just gets thicker. Call the Hollister and advise."

WCO Bearclaw: "Roger. Hollister, CG Spine. Established contact with Cottish Ship. Message inbound via SATCOM. Be advised (3) Spizanian Destroyers are not standing down. Russian Flotilla moving at speed towards position. Request permission to engage destroyers, over."

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Aboard the CVAN Hollister
Fire Control Suite


A flurry of activity bustled around the LCD screens. Satellite data had the Russian Flotilla plotted. It also showed some (7) more groups had built steam and left port towards Baker. So the Russians would make a stand at Baker. Attacking the Cottish wasn't smart, but then again War's often start for stupid reasons. Admiral Holland chewed on his cigar as the reports from CG Spine came in.

Admiral Holland: "Send that message from Spine to MoD, Cotland via 512 Encrypted SATCOM. They need to know what is going on. So the Russian's have a Flotilla or two in the area? Its not like we couldn't see them. Well what do we have in the immediate vicinity?"

Fire Control Officer Trips: "Sir, we had dispatched the SSN's Razor and Titus earlier in the day, they are presently laid up 65 km from the Spazanian Destroyers."

Admiral Holland: "Very well. I hereby authorize engagement of the Spizanian ships by Razor and Titus. Put (2) Mk.70's in the water each, target designation's ALPHA, BAKER, and DOG. We are firing at extreme range, plot the GPS coordinates for these vessels in the Torpedoes and they will find them when they arrive. CG Spine is to provide air cover only at this point. They are not authorized to engage the surface combatants. They are hereby cleared to engage any air targets in the Theater of Operations that are deemed hostile in there opinion. Send it damn it times wasting!"
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512 Bit Encryption
OMEGA Cypher

To: Cottish MoD
From: FAG Dallas, CVAN Hollister

Following message received from Standhaftig:
"Lost all power. Dead in water. Unknown reason. Electromagnetic weapon. 4 KIA 17 WIA. Defending ship."

Presently Combat Group Spine is providing Air Cover from Standhaftig. (2) Russian Flotillas in the area. (3) Spizanian Destroyers. We have engaged the Spizanians, as they are the closest to the Standhaftig. SSN Titus and SSN Razor doing the honors. Six fish in the water as we speak. Be advised Hirgizstanian Forces are also moving to assist. Our Fleet will arrive to on scene in 12 hours.

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SSN Razor
65 km from Spizanian Ships

Radio: "Conn, we have a priority message from CVAN Hollister, over."

Conn: "Aye, radio. Let's have it."

Radio: "Roger, we have the green light for engagement three targets bearing six-five niner. Speed 22 knots opposite friendly, over. Hollister requests Mk.70 preprogrammed, over."

Conn, Captain Seagor's: "Battlestations men, this is not a drill. FCO Willis plot a solution on those three vessels. We will take ALPHA and BAKER, Titus can have DOG. Toropedo Room what's your status."

Torpedo Room: "Arming sir. Inputing GPS data now."

Conn, Capt. Seagor's: "Roger, do we have a solution FCO?"

FCO Willis: "Plotted sir, sending it to TR now."

Torpedo Room: "Roger, data loaded. Fish are hot. Loaded in tubes 1, 2, and 3."

Conn: "Roger, we are going to coordinate with Titus on this we launch on my mark. Three, two, one. Mark. Fish away."

Sonar: "Conn this is sonar. Fish tracking true and straight sir. Weapons are armed, over."

Conn: "Very well, listen closely men. This is the real thing. Remember your training, we are the best in this business and killing is our game. Make me proud, make Hawdawg proud."

Cheers erupted throughout the sub as Captain Seagor's speech managed to stir the crew into a frenzy. Soon they would know the outcome of the Mk.70's. One thing was for certain, there was no turning back now.



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OOC: First lets establish some things. (2) Russian Flotillas are presently at Baker Island, as stated earlier. (7) have been dispatched from there Artic Bases to assist what is already in the Theater of Operations. I have engaged the Spizanians via submarine, which are laid up at extreme range of my Mk.70's. The only visible presence I have in the area are the F-63's which are extremely difficult to track via conventional radar suites and basically you wouldn't know they were there unless they didn't offer communication to the Spizanian vessels, or if they were spotted on a fly-by of the disabled Cottish ship. Most weapons systems I use are Soviet Block, FDI, CSJ, Layarteb, or Cottish in nature. Links are all available in my sig. Mk.70's are CSJ products exclusively designed for Dolphin II SSN's.

OOC: I have three destroyers around Baker

OOC: Fixed the above post, my bad.

OOC: First lets establish some things. (2) Russian Flotillas are presently at Baker Island, as stated earlier. (7) have been dispatched from there Artic Bases to assist what is already in the Theater of Operations. I have engaged the Spizanians via submarine, which are laid up at extreme range of my Mk.70's. The only visible presence I have in the area are the F-63's which are extremely difficult to track via conventional radar suites and basically you wouldn't know they were there unless they didn't offer communication to the Spizanian vessels, or if they were spotted on a fly-by of the disabled Cottish ship. Most weapons systems I use are FDI, CSJ, Layarteb, or Cottish in nature. Links are all available in my sig. Mk.70's are CSJ products exclusively designed for Dolphin II SSN's.

OOC: Wrong. 2 Flotillas are near baker, 7 others are in the pacific, not very far away, this is all the part of the 9 flotilla fleet i dispatched a while ago. F-63s are not hard to track at all, SB agrees that his plane isn't really that stealthy, certainly nothing an AA ship couldn't detect.

Link to the paramount class air defense vessel: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9142148&postcount=299

IC:

Aboard "Peter XII" Paramount class air defense vessel

Captain Leutenant Fratkov: Tovarish Capitan, we have just received communication from the fleet command, Admiral of the Fleet has commanded us to open fire on incoming enemy fighters.

2nd rank Captain Medvedev: Do we have a lock on?

Captain Leutenant Fratkov: Yes tovarish capitan.

2 rank Captain Medveded: Open fire with 2nd battery on my mark....Mark!

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Command was given and the Praetorian V surface to air missile took off to the sky, towards the enemy figthers.

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The fleet was spitting airplanes in the air like crazy. So far 200 were already up in the skies, about half were armed with torpedoes. They were flying in formations around the fleet, waiting for the order to strike the enemy.

OOC: How many F-63s you got in the air? And there is your surface fleet? Also what kind of forces are there around Howland island? There are everybodie's fleets? I have 2 flotillas and 1 submarine division near baker, and 7 flotillas and 3 submarine divisions within 100 kilometers of the baker. Who has what and where?

The ASHUM guns on all three destroyers swung into action, all eighteen batteries targetting the six oncoming torpedoes. They quickly destroyed them, three batteries concentrating fire on each torpedoes. The destroyers were shaken around by the blasts from the weapons, but there was no structural damage.

As the rest of the forces were moving towards the baker 90 Cartagena Class SSNs, 30 Tenerife class SSHs and 30 Valencia class SSKs as well as 10 iluminum class destroyers separated from the rest of the group and started forming an ASW perimiter 100 km away from the baker island. All the Cadiz class boomer subs as well as the rest of the fleet including the aircraft carriers proceeded on their course to regroup with 2 flotillas and 1 PD (Podvodnaya Divizia) already positioned off the coast of the Baker island. The carriers have dispatched 54 Lu-25 fighters to provide air cover for the destroyers. Once the perimiter was complete the trap was set for the Hawdwagian submarines that have just fired their torpedoes on the Spizanian forces. The perimeter formed by Russians subs started shrinking, while the subs themselves were sending active sonar pings to prevent the Hawdawgian vessels from exiting the perimeter undetected. Hawdawgians had two choices, to proceed to the Baker island or to try to break through the perimeter in which case they would surely be destroyed by the force that outnumbers them.

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It was time to take out Howland. 147 Lu-25 jets quit the formation above the 2 Flotillas stationed at the Baker Island and changed their course going for Howland at about 20000 feet up from the sea. At the same time 29 secret T-0 Tsaplia bombers took off from the water' surface and went to an altitude of 22000 feet, directly above the formation of Lu-25s. Both Lu-25 and T-0 were stealthy planes, however if there is a stealth then there is a counter, the idea was that since the 147 Lu-25s will give so many contacts the enemy radar might not be able to separate them from the 29 T-0s spread out above them, either way Howland did not seem to have a large number of anti-aircraft defenses, it was just sitting there for the taking but Admiral Gregory was not known for taking chances, he was known for getting things done.

From Howland 10 JSF's and 10 F-78A Sokol's took to the skies, loaded up with four ASM-10 Penguin's on every plane. (OOC: Not to be confused with the AGM-119.). A P-3C Orion also followed the other plans up into the sky, with two shining 'Big-Blue' ECM Missiles hanging off either wing.

The aircraft stayed extremely close to the Air Defenses in and around Howland Island, making sure not to stray too far. Within minutes the two Russian Flotilla's had been picked up and the pilots of the 20 Planes watched as the P-3C Launched its two ECM Missiles, they dropped for about 10 ft and then shot off into the sky, leaving blue-grey smoke trails behind as the P-3C cut across them, heading for home.

Then the sky erupted in light and smoke as 400 Penguin Anti-Shippinh Missiles, their robust and angry design, cut out from under the wing pylons and shot out into the blue sky, the 20 aircraft hit their burners and headed for home.

Eleven Missiles were headed for each ship in the two Russian Flotillas. The Big Blue would explode high overhead a few minutes before the Missiles closed on the ships. The Big Blue ECM Missiles would then kick in and begin to send out hundreds, thousands of radar signals, each one simulating a missile, various sorts would appear on screen, the enemy ships CIWS and Anti-Missile systems would go crazy trying to find the right target. As the Penguins inched closer, no doubt some wouldn't make it, but the Big Blue missile ensured the best chance of them making a kill.


Almost as soon as the underground bunker was guiding the aircraft back from the ship strike, a radar watcher noticed a large group of Russian planes headed out, vectored for Howland. Immediately AA and SAM defenses were activated all over the island.

The 6th Defense Unit of the Border Defense Command had recently been tasked with the tricky defense of the very barren Howland Island.
Only 3 Brigades could fit on the Island at any one time, and one of those brigades was a roaming Air Defense Brigade, able to reposition very quickly. They were only there until static defenses could be built and manned, and that hadn't happend yet.

The men manned their units and vehicles and waited, the Russians would come in force, that was sure, but they would get a nasty surprise as they got closer.

ORBAT:

26th Defense Unit (Air Defense) (6th Defense Unit)

3 Brigades
Each Brigade has the following:
1000 Avenger
1000 Ascod AAMC (Anti-Aircraft Missile Carrier)
1000 Ascod AAGS Wildcat (Anti-Aircraft Gun System)
500 MBFC-1 (Multi-Barrelled Flak Cannon)
500 Hughes Stationary AA Chain Gun
1000 MIM-23 HAWK
1000 HUMRAAM
1000 MIM PAC 2/3 Patriot
10 Ascod AARV (Repair Vehicle)



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Meanwhile in Australia 1000 B-1B Lancer's, 20 AL-52 Dragon's and 100 B-52H Aircraft, along with 1000 F-78A's, 1000 F-22A's and 500 F-104X, were put on high alert, ready to launch at a moment's notice.

The ASHUM guns on all three destroyers swung into action, all eighteen batteries targetting the six oncoming torpedoes. They quickly destroyed them, three batteries concentrating fire on each torpedoes. The destroyers were shaken around by the blasts from the weapons, but there was no structural damage.
OOC: That seems like a mild case of godmodding. Never tell anyone that you've destroyed their weapons without them agreeing to it. Also, got some specs on the destroyers?

The message was recieved in Oslo, who immediately ordered CVBG 21 to attack the island and its defenders. The situation was quickly spiralling out of hand, and the intel gathered was limited. It seemed to the Cots that the Russians were planning to take over the Standhaftig, something which could not be allowed to occur.

Aboard the carrier in the Pacific, the news was recieved quickly thanks to the elaborate network of communications satellites the Cots had in space to support their datalink communications system. The Admiral in charge of the group looked over the information and immediately grabbed a phone.

"Få de jævla flyene tilbake!" [Get those fucking planes back here!]

The Captain commanding the carrier looked at the Admiral, confused.

"Hva skjer? Jeg trodde vi skulle hjelpe..." [What's going on? I thought we were going to help...]

"Si det til de forbannede russerne! De har startet et angrep mot oss! Igjen!" [Tell the goddamned Russians. They've attacked us! Again!]

"Å skit... Kampstasjoner?" [Oh shit... Battlestations?]

"Hva tror du?" [What do you think?]

The Captain picked up the microphone and selected the shipwide intercom.

"Klart skip, klart skip. Alle mann til kampstasjoner. Klart skip, klart skip. Alle mann til kampstasjoner. Dette er ikke en øvelse." [General quarters, general quarters. All hands, man your battlestations. General quarters, general quarters. All hands, man your battlestations. This is not a drill.]

Across the ship in the battlegroup, sailors ran to their battlestations. Combat systems went online, the ISAR arrays scanned the skies and missiles were being readied for launch. On the carrier, aircraft were being armed with live munitions. The next thing to happen didn't happen on the carrier, but on the Vulkan class arsenal ship in the battlegroup. It carried more than 600 cruise missiles, most of them Imsdal-As. Cruise missiles which flew at Mach 6 to their target and entered in a terminal velocity of Mach 7. Very difficult to intercept, and even if they did, the debris would still make very large holes in anything they hit. The kinetic energy was massive.

After orders had been confirmed, the VLS cells on the arsenal ship opened and spewed out more than 270 RGM-203A Imsdal missiles. They climbed to 85,000 feet and worked their way up to Mach 6 and cruised before they tilted downward and headed straight for the Russian ships. The GPS position of the enemy had been verified, and the IIR systems on the onboard computers targetted the hottest targets in the area, the engine rooms of the Russian carriers. A total of 270 missiles were inbound, and this was only the first wave. Soon, more would follow.

OOC: Their at the Kriegzimmer storefront, and i have those countermeasures, those torpedoes were fired at me, its like missiles and CIWS.

In the Pacific, near Howland, the stricken Norwegian vessel was sitting dead in the water. The remaining unhurt crew were at battle stations and all on deck carried automatic weapons. The sea was getting choppier by the minute, good because it would make them hard to spot, bad because the Russians could sneak up.

The CGS-Taft, a lone Sprunace Class Destroyer was making headway quickly through the waves. It spotted the stricken vessel quickly and then lost sight as the ship dived into a depression created by a large wave.

As the ship edged closer to the stationary HMS Standhaftig, a crewman got behind one of the large signal lights at the front of the ship and began to signal the Norwegian ship in Morse Code- the message was 'Freindly-Ship-C-O-H-Advise-Us' and the crewman repeated it over and over, waiting, watching for a reply.

OOC: Their at the Kriegzimmer storefront, and i have those countermeasures, those torpedoes were fired at me, its like missiles and CIWS.
OOC: I know that you have them. What I'm calling godmod is that you decided how many of Haws torpedoes was destroyed. That's up for Haw to decide (and he will take casualties. If he refuses to, that's godmod). Read the stickies on RPing war if you don't believe me.

OOC: I agree with Cot, Haw will decide what is destroyed, and no matter how good the system is, it wouldn't have got all the torpedos, so you'll have to have something hit somewhere.

Look at the scene in 'The Sum of All Fears' where the Russian planes attack a US Aircraft Carrier, the CIWS systems get like four of the missiles, but the rest get through. No system is 100% foolproof.

OOC: Sorry, in all the other wars that ive done, the person who is attacked decided the effectiveness of Sams or CIWS against missiles fired towards him.

And they have a good chance of stopping all the torps because the 3 destroyers have a total of 18 batteries, translating to 3 batteries per torp.

OOC: You can RP how effective they are, but you can't simply, in three lines no less, swipe away quite a big attack. Its not the way of things. I suggest waiting until Hawdawg gets on, then you can resolve this.

OOC: Hirgy, my paramount class air defense vessel can pick enemy airplanes up from 120 to 700 km away depending on level of stealth. How far away were your P-3Cs? Also before now you said that all that there was on Howland island was coast guard and an airstrip, now suddenly there is an air defense unit, whats up with that?

Also Cot, Hirgy, Haw, how far away are your ships from my ships?

OOC: You can RP how effective they are, but you can't simply, in three lines no less, swipe away quite a big attack. Its not the way of things. I suggest waiting until Hawdawg gets on, then you can resolve this.

My ASHUM guns outnumber the torps 3:1,
And how much can you stretch out such a small and quick maneuvre?

OOC: In relation to what was on Howland I was simply describing the terrain and physical features. I mentioned nothing of what was on it. I stationed one Defense Unit there and another on the Pitcairn Islands, they protect the place until I can get more static defenses up and running.
Also, the aircraft basically flew about 2 miles away from the island, fired their missiles, and then returned. Even if you did get a missile off they'd be on the ground before anything hit, and their signal would have been lost as the aircraft shut down. It was also only 1 P-3C, 10 F-22 and 10 F-78A, both of which are quite stealthy.
In case your wondering there is also a Lighthouse on Howland and an underground bunker 5 feet below the runway. Most of the aircraft are also stored in a sort of underground multi-level parking bay. Saves space.
My Coast Guard ships are staying in and around Howland, between 1 mile and 6 miles off the coast. Only one further out is a single destroyer on a mercy mission to the stricken Norwegian Vessel.
There are also some trees and large, grey rocks on Howland, in case they surprise you later on...

Wasn't my attack Spiz, I also didn't call you on it until others did. Don't talk to me about it.

The enemy missiles were quickly closing in on Russian vessels, the anti-missile defense guns were firing like crazy. A motion filter was set on the CIWS controller that was supposed to help against the ECM attack. The Air-defense vessels were emptying their surface to air missile batteries one by one, trying to hit both the enemy missiles and enemy planes. A total of 189 missiles were let out already, the skies were burning. A lot of enemy missiles were shot down, but several ships were hit, some started sinking, there was no time to access the damage at this point, there was time to answer however and the Russian batteries did. The Illuminum Guided Missile destroyers started unleashing hell on the enemy. One by one 784 missiles flew out from the 2 Flotillas, and from just 80 kilometers away, 1456 more missiles followed, all enemy ships were targeted atleast twice, special attention was payed to the Cottish arsenal ship. The Peperbox resupply vessels were sending smaller supply vessels were being dispatched from Peperboxes loaded with missile catridges and other types of ammunition.

Off the Shores of Baker Island

Six Mk.70's made there way towards the Spizanian Destroyers, as they went active on target, the crews of these vessels became aware of there presence. Closing rapidly on the vessels each torpedo began to actively seek out its destination. CIWS began to open up on the Mk.70's as they closed to 10,000 yards. As the matched pairs moved in for the kill the CIWS system managed to pick off three of the inbound fish, but the 40 knot travel speed of the torpedoes made them a difficult target to hit. Fifty percent losses was an acceptable number of misses for the Submarine Captain. The lead destroyer was struck by two Mk.70's and the second ship took one Mk.70. Luckily the third ship in the formation had been spared, for a moment. Overhead, the F-63's verified hits on the Spizanian Destroyers.

CG Spine: "Roger, we have hits on First and Second Destroyer. Third Destroyer is still active. Request permission to engage, over."

FCO Trips (aboard Hollister): "Permission granted. Go HOT."

CG Spine: "Roger that. On my mark boys. Three, Two, One. Mark."

Two of the F-63's released (4) AGM-84L's from wing pylons as they screamed towards the third untouched vessel. At such a close range, the AGM-84's would be hard to combat.

As the F-63's rolled out of the attack run on the Spizanian vessel an ominous warning came on the Advanced warning system inside the cockpit.

"Missile launch detected, Missile launch detected. Trajectory 35 degrees. Inbound actively seeking."

Flight Leader Cappy: "Damn it. Russians have engaged us. Roll out, roll out!"

Cappy and two other's popped chaff and flares and cut hard right. It was too late Cappy's wingman, he took a Praetonian SAM through his left wing and spiraled towards the sea. The canopy came off as both the Pilot and WCO punched out just as the plane went up in a glorious fireball.

FL Cappy: "Alright, they want to play rough. Arm the everything. We have mutiple targets vectored over the Russian Flotilla release ordinance on my mark three, two, one. Mark."

The remaining (3) F-63's launched all the had at the 200 plane armada in front of them. Six VEE-RAID, three IRIS-T's, and four AIM-120D's rolled off each airframe screaming across the sky at the Russian Air Force. Undoubtedly something would be hit.

Cappy: "Call for backup damn it!"

WCO: "Mother Duck this is CG Spine heavy engagement. One bird in the drink. Need reinforcements over. Russians have actively engaged us over."

FCO Tripps: "Roger, Three Flight Groups (12 F-63's) inbound going Supercruise. ETA 3 minutes." Squadron of F-91's (12) inbound behind them. Roll out, climb to 70,000 feet and hold. Inbound Cottish Missiles, clear the area."

Spent of ordinance the three remaining F-63's obeyed orders and climbed to 70,000 feet soon there brothers in arms would arrive.

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Aboard SSN Titus and Razor

Sonar: "Conn, sonar. Thirty plus active targets, on active ping. They are trying to flush us out sir. They have positioned themselves between us and FAG Dallas."

Conn: "Aye. A good trick but we will use it to our advantage. Flood all eight tubes. (4) Mk.48 ADCAP's and (4) Mk.70's. Program to go passive until they hit 12,000 yards. They should pass by the Hirgizstanian Cruiser before the start hunting. We shall plow the road. Pass on there position to the fleet."

Conn: "Launch a fan and reload as soon as the tubes are clear. Launch in three, two, one. Mark."

Torpedo Room: "Fish away. Running straight. Rearming tubes."

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Aboard the Hollister

The Admiral was pissed one F-63 was down and the Russians were playing hardball trying to fence in the SSN's in the area. It was time to get nasty.

Admiral: "Where's that FCO?"

FCO Tripps: "Here sir."

Admiral: "Well lets deal with the submarine threat first."

FCO Tripps: "Aye sir, we have actively pinged locations from the Razor and Titus. Our ASW systems have them bracketed sir."

Admiral: "Very well how many ASROC's do we have available?"

FCO Tripps: "Sir we are out of range for the ASROC's. But we have the F-91's we can use for this purpose. We can hang (8) Mk.50 ASW Torpedoes on a flight and engage the Submarines at close quarters."

Admiral: "What are you waiting on then. Get them in the air. Prepare the Vulkan's, we will launch Imsdal's on the remaining Russian ships still afloat after the initial barrage from Cottish Forces."

The order was given and (6) F-91's were prepared for the ASW mission. It took relatively no time as each was fitted with the compliment of (8) Mk.50 Torpedoes and (2) IRIS-T missiles. They wouldn't be engaging enemy planes just the Submarine net that had been established between the Titus, and Razor and FAG Dallas.

As the flight took off, and gained altitude an ominous thought crossed the pilots minds, they were in combat.

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Between FAG Dallas and Baker Island

At the predetermined altitude, each of the eight F-91's dropped there load of Mk.50's into the water, a full compliment of (64) Mk.50 torpedoes moved towards the Russian Submarine Fleet. They were effectively caught between a wave of Torpedoes coming from two directions. Sixty-four from Dallas and sixteen from Titus and Razor. After the load was delivered the flight returned to HMS Hollister to begin preparations for the second wave of attacks.

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OOC: 50% losses of my torpedoes launched from extreme distances is acceptable. Understand when this distance is closed, the losses to ordinance go down exponentally. Meaning its harder to combat when you are within say 12,000 yards. I also took the loss of one plane because you only showed the launch of one missile. You have positioned your submarine fleet between my two subs and the FAG Dallas, well within my ASW capabilities. I fired my Mk.70's at extreme ranges of 65 km. My Fleet is about 450nm from Baker to the South. Hirgizstan has a P-3C Orion in the air and actively pinging for Subs. I have your coordinates based on the pinging you are doing to locate my subs. While ASROC's are out of range the Mk.50's put on target from the F-91 flight will be effective.

Two of the nine Flotillas operating in the pacific as well as one submarine division were sent to protect the island from possible aggression. There was nothing secret about the object being built, Norwegians were just wasting time.

I don't buy the eight flotillas within 100 miles of Baker (that's effectively at Baker Island in my opinion). If that was the case the above quote from you should have efffectively stated that, but if that's how you want to play it fine, we will.

OOC: Pushka, were those missiles you fired sent at my Coast Guard ships or what? Did you target the lone destroyer near the Norwegian Vessel?
Also, if you want peace, this is the wrong way to go about it.
This might be my last post for tonight so be patient if I need to do losses or anything.
Pushka, I'd also like to know how many ships of yours I knocked out. Just to get the picture right.

NB: There are 150 Civilians currently on Howland Island in a town south of the airport, right on the beachfront. The 125 Adults all have access to firearms of various sorts.

The two other destroyers from the Spizanian patrol group began to list over as they took multiple hits from heavy torpedoes.
"Do we have a location for the torpedo launches?"
"Yes Sir, we read two marks, range 65,000 metres"
"Target two Princep IIIs on each mark, arm and fire!"
"Multiple Unknown Aircraft!"
"All SAM batteries fire, bring them down!"
Three P.746.A missiles fired at each enemy aircraft as the four princep IIIs shot out of the VLS and headed towards the enemy subs.

They would drop their torpedoes in the water nearby the enemy launch posisiton, the torpedoes would then hunt for the submarine and coordinate the attack to inflict maximum damage to the enemy submarines.

OOC: Uhm, you forgot about the (4) AGM-84L's inbound on destroyer number 3. I am assuming this launch came from destroyer 3 So did you fire 3 or 4 RIM missiles?

OOC: Hawdawg, i have over a hundred jet fighters in the air, against your 3 or now about to 15 planes, i said that they are engaging why is where no casualties? Also why is where no casualties from all the surface to air missiles i released? As for submarines, this is how it is. Your submarine force is trapped between the 120 submarines belonging to the two Flotillas and the ones making up the perimeter 100 km away from the baker island, i also have 240 others still attached to the incoming 7 Flotillas.

Hirgy, those were targeting all your ships within range of 350 kilometers, but no not the lone destroyer and not the Cottish ship i EMPed.

IC:

Over the two Flotillas near Baker

Mayor Kudrin: "2 missiles per enemy fighter! Fire on mark! Mark!"

Wing commander Kudrin yelled into his radio and the pride of Russian air force technology RSD-9 Medium Range AA Missiles flew out of their nests. These missiles were the most maneuvarable ever known to men, each enemy plane was targeted and then retargeted. And then the enemy missiles hit, 21 of them got right on the money. Kudrin and his men were acking for some pay back.


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Airspace close to Howland

The Howland Air Group was still out of range of enemy AA fire, then it was time to drop the BrahMos cruise missiles. They were hanging on the underbellies of 97 of the 147 Lu-25s in the air group. All were let out simultaneously, priority targets were the Anti-Aircraft missile carriers, each forth Cruise missile carried a power EMP charge. The T-0s were able to let out 2 cruise missiles. The Air Group picked up altitude, they were about to enter engagement range and the enemy would start shooting at them while the EMP charges they dispatched could also make them eat dirt.

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100 km perimeter around Baker

Starshina Repkin yelled into the intercom.

Starshina: "Enemy torpedoes incoming! Enemy torpedoes incoming!"

The commander of the perimeter 1st Rank Capitan Zverev had only one thing left to do, take the casualties, but kill the enemy. He yelled in the central intercom that connected him to all other boats in his unit.

Zverev: "To all vessels, target enemy hawdwagian submarines. Fire at will! I repeat fire at will."

The torpedoes started taking off from the Russian side they were flying in both direction, towards enemy submarines and their surface ships (OOC: FAG Dallas is a ship, or a group of ships, anyways, i just fired a bunch of torpedoes at it whatever it is). Everyone from the youngest Matros to Zverev himself were in their head praying that the enemy torpedoes would not hit their boats, right after firing the torpedoes evasive maneuvers were taken, but casualties were certain.

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Baker Island

All the surface ships started firing their anti-torpedo guns (OOC: same kind Spiz was firing) as they started striking back, 120 submarines near the Baker simultaneously started unleashing their weapons at the targets. Illuminum class destroyers fired depth charge rockets. The rocket flew out of the silo, broke in the air, a depth charge fell out, went down below water, activated its active sonar and was propelled at 30 knots by a powerful waterjet engine towards the closest target of opportunity its SONAR could pick up. The friendly targets were identified and restricted, this charge would only hit the enemy.

OOC: Pushka, were those missiles you fired sent at my Coast Guard ships or what? Did you target the lone destroyer near the Norwegian Vessel?
Also, if you want peace, this is the wrong way to go about it.
This might be my last post for tonight so be patient if I need to do losses or anything.
Pushka, I'd also like to know how many ships of yours I knocked out. Just to get the picture right.

NB: There are 150 Civilians currently on Howland Island in a town south of the airport, right on the beachfront. The 125 Adults all have access to firearms of various sorts.

OOC: I'd like to know how many of yours i knocked out. How many missiles did you fire total? I fired 2000+ at all of you.

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From what i gathered its 400 missiles from Hirgizstan and 270 from Cotland. I am not sure how many Haw has fired. I'll post the damages after you respond to my attack and post your damages. I still have 7 untouched Flotillas incoming by the way.

The air-defense vessels kept firing at the all the enemy planes and missiles in the area.

OOC: Thats including those Haw has sent on ASW mission.

OOC: 1st, my FAG is 450nm away from the island not 80km as you suggested. 2nd, in your RP you said you launched (1) missile at my planes. I showed a loss of (1) plane (I can pull the quote if you would like). 3rd, I unloaded all my ordinance into your planes you had in the air before they fired which you have shown no losses. 4th, some of your posts are coming in before I get to respond. I tend to be thorough when I post listing munition types, planes involved,etc. I don't offer up I shot (X) number of missiles. I describe the types to add to the detail of the RP. 5th, Yes I will RP more fighter casualties AFTER you show me some hits from my original onslaught of 39 Air-to-Air Missiles unleashed on your fighter cover. 6th, if you are shooting at me say you are instead of saying I have fired 783 missiles, you only referenced the cottish ships not me, be specific.

This thing is a give and take. I am taking casualities.

OOC: 1st, my FAG is 450nm away from the island not 80km as you suggested. 2nd, in your RP you said you launched (1) missile at my planes. I showed a loss of (1) plane (I can pull the quote if you would like). 3rd, I unloaded all my ordinance into your planes you had in the air before they fired which you have shown no losses. 4th, some of your posts are coming in before I get to respond. I tend to be thorough when I post listing munition types, planes involved,etc. I don't offer up I shot (X) number of missiles. I describe the types to add to the detail of the RP. 5th, Yes I will RP more fighter casualties AFTER you show me some hits from my original onslaught of 39 Air-to-Air Missiles unleashed on your fighter cover. 6th, if you are shooting at me say you are instead of saying I have fired 783 missiles, you only referenced the cottish ships not me, be specific.

This thing is a give and take. I am taking casualities.

I said at all enemy forces. Then did you fire 39 missiles at me? You had 3 F-69s, 4 missiles each, thus 12 missiles, and i posted 7 casualties. Also then did i say that i only fired one missile?

OOC: Oops, i only counted the AIM-120s, sorry, i'll edit the post there i mention casualties.

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K that post edited, 21 casualties for 39 missiles, taking into consideration counter measures and maneuvarability of the planes.

Just to be understood. You fired first, then my planes fired, then your missiles hit my planes.

OOC: Lets freeze this until everyone else comes back. Although you can respond to casualties to your airplanes if you want.

When did i say your FAG was 80 kilometers away? Then did you say they were 450 nm away? What the hell is a FAG? Did they fire anything at my submarines?

OOC: Damn I don't think I have enough room for all this.

1st, your quote of firing one missile.

Command was given and the Praetorian V surface to air missile took off to the sky, towards the enemy figthers.

2nd, my Fast Attack Group is 450 nm from Baker. Putting your Submarine Picket at a range of 350nm away. Far too great a distance to launch a Torpedo attack on it. I misunderstood the below post as aligning my fleet as 80km from Baker. I will right a response to the missile attack.

One by one 784 missiles flew out from the 2 Flotillas, and from just 80 kilometers away, 1456 more missiles followed, all enemy ships were targeted atleast twice, special attention was payed to the Cottish arsenal ship.

The torpedoes started taking off from the Russian side they were flying in both direction, towards enemy submarines and their surface ships (OOC: FAG Dallas is a ship, or a group of ships, anyways, i just fired a bunch of torpedoes at it whatever it is). Everyone from the youngest Matros to Zverev himself were in their head praying that the enemy torpedoes would not hit their boats, right after firing the torpedoes evasive maneuvers were taken, but casualties were certain.



3rd, My submarines are 65nm from Baker so the torpedo guns aren't an option. Depth charges aren't an option either. You never said your ships were even on the south side of the island. The only thing you have said is your subs are in a picket 100nm from Baker. My subs are going to suffer no doubt, but your surface ships aren't going to be able to save your sub fleet they are too far away.

All the surface ships started firing their anti-torpedo guns (OOC: same kind Spiz was firing) as they started striking back, 120 submarines near the Baker simultaneously started unleashing their weapons at the targets. Illuminum class destroyers fired depth charge rockets. The rocket flew out of the silo, broke in the air, a depth charge fell out, went down below water, activated its active sonar and was propelled at 30 knots by a powerful waterjet engine towards the closest target of opportunity its SONAR could pick up. The friendly targets were identified and restricted, this charge would only hit the enemy.

4th, again your surface combatants aren't anywhere close to the submarines which are well over 100nm from Baker. Hence, no AA to combat the ASW planes. 100nm is a stretch for a radar system on this type of destroyer.

5th, I am not going to allow for "go-backs" in this. I learned a long time ago if you forget to RP it you pay for it.

6th, How many torpedoes do I have coming downrange on my two subs?
You posted "alot" but that doesn't tell me squat.

7th, Yes I fired first and your planes responded in kind. Hence the casualities I am fixing to show.


Summary: I am about to RP the casualties on the remaining F-63's over Baker. I have (24) fighters coming in to tangle with the remaining fighter cover. I want a response on the Harpoon's launched on Spiz's destroyers. All three should be at a minimum damaged enough to severely effect combat operations. I have (80) Mk.50 Torpedoes in the water bearing down on the (100) subs you have in the submarine picket. And your fighter cover is tied up over Baker dealing with my planes. I am going to take a hit on my subs but I want a response on my damage first. I will write an incoming attack from your missiles on my fleet as I mistakenly read your post as assigning a distance to our fleets off Baker.

This is my FAG. The BG below is attached to it for this particular mission. Ship specifications are found in my sig. under Hawdawg Navy.

Fast Attack Group Dallas (Lautoka, Fiji)
(1) George Washington Class Carrier
[(72) Total Aircraft: (24) F/A-63KD, (30) F-91D, (8) SH-60L SeaHawk, (2) E-2D AWACS Hawkeye-2000, (2) RA-5E Vigilante, (4) CH-46 Sea Knight]
(8) Ardent Class Frigates
(6) Revenge Class Destroyers
(6) Point Catilan Class Escort Frigates
(4) Centaur Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(4) Dolphin II Class SSN’s
(2) Centaur-X Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(2) Sabre Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(2) Anakara Class Guided Missile Cruisers
(2) Berlin Class Land Attack Cruisers
(2) Vulkan Class Arsenal Ships

Battle Group Hondo (Suva, Fiji)
(4) Ragnarok Class Battleships
(4) Anakara Class Guided Missile Cruisers
(4) Berlin Class Land Attack Cruisers
(3) Mexia Class Battle Cruisers
(10) Ardent Class Frigates
(6)Sabre Class Guided Missile Destroyers
(2) Dolphin II Class SSN's
(4) SSN-21 Seawolf Class
(2) Vulkan Class Arsenal Ships

OOC: I think we have a misunderstanding.

First the perimeter is formed 100 nm outside the Baker island, all around the Baker island, my subs are spread out the whole way around it. Your subs as i understand it are in one spot thus your 80 torpedoes can not be targeting the subs on the other side of the island.

The 180 submarines forming the perimeter (180 not 100) are 100 nm away from the Baker island, 120 submarines assigned to the 2 flotillas are right off the coast of the Baker Island. That means that your subs are 65 nm away from the coast of Baker Island and 35 from my submarine perimeter. That means that your submarines are within range for both torpedoes and the depth charges.

As for your FAG, first of all, what is it, and second of all did it fire anything at me?

Now to jet fighters, i have responded to what you said, now its your turn to respond to what i said.

Before i know how many submarines i lost i need to know what part of the perimeter were you targeting. Third of all how many submarines do you have trapped?

You had two subs release 80 torpedoes?

I have posted an attack on your ASW planes.

OOC: My (2) Dolphin II SSN's are shooting at the outer perimeter. The line of subs you have established 100nm from Baker Island. Both subs fired (8) torpedoes each for a total of (16). At a range of 35 miles (4) Mk.70 and (4) Mk.48 ADCAP's to be exact. My F-91's have dropped (64) Mk.50 torpedoes on your outer perimeter picket. Not the "inner circle" of subs you have decribed.

I don't accept a depth charge that can be propelled from a ship to a distance of 65km. That is post-modern tech, not modern tech. Most depth charge devices at best have a range of less than one mile, not 65km that's a tech. wank. Modern ASROC missiles are ranged at under 20 miles. Your submarines in the inner circle could shoot out at my subs but with long range torpedoes only.

I have a post put together that I will put up shortly, and then I am done for the night.

I also am posting hits from the missile barrage, and the assault on the F-91's that dropped torpedoes., and a retaliatory strike is to follow.

Over Baker Island

The (3) remaining F-63’s didn’t have much hope of holding out. They had expended all there Air-to-Air Missiles earlier and downed a few enemy fighters, but the only weapons system they had left was the 30mm cannon. True they could have turned for home, but Hawdawg Naval pilots didn’t back up. As the onslaught began, all three began to drop chaff and flares in avoidance of incoming missiles. At the beginning, some success was had as a target lock was achieved on several Russian Fighters. A few of the 30mm rounds found there mark, but alas all three planes were lost.

Coming in at 70,000 feet a flight of (12) F-63’s tried to assist the doomed CG Spine by firing (8) VEE-RAID missiles each but the 96 missiles from these planes simply didn’t arrive soon enough to help there brethren. (12) F-91’s flew about 2 miles back to assist the F-63’s with this mission.

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Fast Attack Group Dallas
450 nm South of Baker Island

FCO Trips: “Inbound missiles! Activate CIWS!”

Horns sounded sirens flashed as general quarters was barked across the loudspeakers in the fleet. The advanced AEGIS System had detected the inbound missiles, the question was how effective would the countermeasures be. Almost simultaneously a small inconspicuous rocket shot up into the sky, climbed to 5,000 feet and exploded. A fine metallic dust began to rain down on the fleet. This first line of defense would hopefully confuse the inbound missiles and cause them to miss there mark. All over the formation Goalkeeper CIWS guns fired at targets that made it through the massive cloud of chaff. While the chaff did confuse some of the missiles it also lowered the effectiveness of the CIWS by causing them to target missiles that weren’t a potential threat to the fleet. When the smoke cleared from the original barrage, several ships had taken direct hits. Within the fleet the outer picket had taken the brunt of the attack with (8) Ardent’s, (6) Point Catilan’s, (4) Revenge, and (2) Mexia BC’s sunk. The Hollister didn’t go without damage and had taken an indirect hit which damaged the one of the steam catapults.

Admiral: “Damn it target those Russian’s with Imsdal’s. The launch order was given as the (4) Arsenal ships in the fleet let loose a barrage of some (600) RGM-203 Imsdal’s at the Russian Flotilla stationed at Baker.”

No less than (80) of these missiles were specifically targeted at the two Russian carriers. (10) Imsdal-DU missiles would be used to destroy masts and communication gear. (10) Imsdal-APAM’s would cluster bomb the decks to wreck all planes and ignite all munitions stored topside, (10) Imsdal-AUP’s would focus on the Engine Room with IIR and on the flight deck to buckle and warp it, and finally (10) Imsdal-IISM would use a combination of thermite and other flammables to melt the hulls. This potent mix of missiles would wreak havoc on the Flotilla. This was over half of the Imsdal load in the Vulkan’s, but the Flotilla at Baker had to be destroyed.

As the missiles streaked across the sky, the smoking hulls of the vessels lost slowly sank to the bottom. Soon things would even up.

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ASW Mission
Over the outer submarine picket
100nm from Baker Island

As the flight of (6) F-91’s were returning home from the ASW mission, several ship launched missiles began to give chase. They were coming from extreme ranges, so most planes had time to offer up countermeasures. Two unlucky pilots to the rear of the formation ran out of chaff and effectively bought the farm.

OOC: Good we are on the same page then.

OOC:

I have following problems with your post:

1. I have targeted and fired 2 missiles at each one of your 3 F-63s they would have no possible way to respond with gun fire, i used medium range missiles, if the first one didn't hit which is very impabable since they are designed to hit almost every time, your aircraft would loose so much speed maneuvering away from the first missile the second one would hit it without any trouble.

Second of all, i am not accepting your 12 F-63s just coming in before me knowing anything, firing their missiles and leaving, so no on that one. Why would they see me before i saw them? Why would my air defense vessels not respond? They can pick up a target from 120 to 720 km away, this simply does not add up. So thats that.

Props to you on the ship casualties, i'll be sure to deliver accordingly tomorrow. I hope your allies will be as realistic about taking casualties. I have let out almost 2200 missiles at you guys, you let out 1270 at my 34 ships. I am loosing both of those Flotillas, but since i sent more missiles mind those extra casualties on your side.

OOC: Read the highlighted below post before you complain about my F-63. Pay particular attention to post number 11, it defines the VEE-RAID rocket specifications. Which is designed to engage enemy targets at ranges in excess of 250-500km. I didn't shoot at you and fly away. They are moving in to assist the doomed CG Spine, yes your Ship Radar may have picked them up but standard RIM missiles in MT times used to engage aircraft max out at ranges much closer to the ships than were my planes are at. These F-63's are coming from the FAG Dallas 450nm away and have fired on your planes from a little under 500km. I never said you wouldn't respond as these planes haven't left the area. But unless you have a long range rocket on your planes to respond to mine they won't be able to engage them until they get much closer. Hence the reason I use the VEE-RAID. These planes are coming to the fight not running from it. I added the dancing and dodging of the death of the doomed CG Spine for effect, they are all dead why complain?
Information below supports my position:

VEE-RAID Missile information post #11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=460680

Your AntiAircraft Missiles are well out of range of these fighters, see info. below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_missile Current SM on naval combatants USN Block IV variant ranged at 370km or 200nm.

If you have something different post it and I will take a look at it.

-Hawdawg

The Emperor's office was dim. He was relaxing, so to speak. The city was quiet and the night was falling. In the distance, looking south, southeast, he saw planes climbing into the sky from Layarteb City International Airport, a massive airport on the southern coast of Long Island. To the north, northeast he could see aircraft taking off from New York Airport, a smaller airport, unable to handle the massive 747 Jumbo Jets that would make it international. This airport was strictly domestic.

He stood at his window, looking into the east, the sun setting behind him, in the west. It is a shame this may all come to an end. He thought to himself, quiet and somber. The knock at his door was one he was expecting. He knew what was going on, it was all too easy to figure it out, he didn't need to watch the news, the intelligence reports told everything. The situation in Australia was an enigma. His allies managed to skirt conflict on the continent but at the same time, it did not help the Empire. The Empire had made a personal pledge and promise to help the small, almost unhelpable nation of Azimeth. Now, with the allies gone, more and more people abandoning the continent in the face of demands from a nation with little to lose, the Empire would be left alone. There was a request from the Azimethian government to deny the pledge and the promise. This only compounded the situation. The Emperor could order a withdrawal, making the Empire look weak, easily threatened and persuaded. From that day on any force projection and power would slowly erode and a gradual decline would set in, ruining all that he had worked to create since the late 1970s when he initiated revolution. He could stay, face the enemy alone, outnumbered, outgunned, and 10,000 miles away. Victory, if any, would be phyrric and he would not send men to die, needlessly. He had not made his decision yet.

"Come in." He called, echoing in his grandiose office. The doors open but he did not turn from the window. "I know." He quietly said. "I know."

"Sir. The Russian Federation has," he would be interrupted by the Emperor.

"I am well aware, I saw the intelligence reports. I've got them here." He returned to his desk, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs sitting in front of him. "Russian Federation attacks, with some satellite EMP weapon, a Cottish vessel. There were 4 KIAs. Retaliation set in. Now there is a full-on naval battle in the Pacific, dangerously close to Hawaii. I'm fully aware."

"Sir, what is our course of action?"

"What else can we do? We have to retaliate, we have to go in and help our allies. That is the glory of the October Alliance, the enemy of my ally is my enemy. The friend of my ally is not necessarily my friend."

"Sir are you meaning to say that Russia is not," he was interrupted again.

"Russia is the enemy of the human race General. I do not order this out of requirements to my allies, I order this because there is no other alternative. The Russian Federation once sought to wipe out human existence with a plot to melt polar ice caps so they can have access to the water. We're not dealing with the brightest individuals humanity has bestowed upon Earth. It remains conventional, correct?"

"Well sir, the initial hit was EMP but yes."

"EMP can be conventional. Where do we stand?"

"Sir we have a group of 180 B-7B Incubus bombers on standby in Ynoga and South Eastern Virginia backed up by 60 B-4A Magnum bombers, 90 F-25B Firefox interceptors, and 24 F-39A Tengriy interceptors. We have more than that sir but for this mission we're talking a long-range strike."

"What is the loadout on the bombers?"

"Sir, we have several loadouts on the B-7Bs. Each of them will be carrying twenty-four cruise missiles. We have groups of 45. The first group will be carrying 1,080 Imsdal missiles, broken into the following grouping: 380 with IISM submunitions, 300 with blast-fragmentation warheads, and 400 with AUP warheads. We can't use EMP because of the close range of our allied vessels. The second group will be carrying the same loadout except they will be carrying 680 with IISM submunitions and 400 with blast-fragmentation warheads. The third group will be equipped with 1,080 Dreamcatchers, each equipped with the BLU-113 penetrating warhead. The fourth group will be carrying 1,080 CALCM missiles with 540 of them Block III and 540 for Block IIIA. Both the Imsdals and the CALCMs can be launched as far away as 1,000 miles with the Dreamcatchers at 3,000 miles. Our order of grouping has the missiles fired in such a way that they will all converge on the targets at the same time, putting 4,320 missiles from the Incubus bombers on the targets at the same time, heavily messing with their CIWS and air defense capabilities. The Magnum bombers will be carrying all one loadout with 2 missiles per plane, 120 in total, all of them the air-launched Voodoo anti-ship missile, launched from 850 miles at high altitude. These will arrive on target at the same time as the missiles launched from the B-7s. With 4,440 missiles at once it is doubtful they will have much of a will to fight anymore."

"Very well. What about our bombers?"

"Sir they are ultrastealth bombers. They have a cross-section that makes the F-22 look like a house. We stay subsonic, high-altitude, and we'll get in pretty close. They use a lot of phased array systems, which are difficult to jam, if they can be jammed at all, and they can detect stealth fighters and bombers. The advantage for us is the range. Phased array systems cannot detect stealth aircraft as far away as they can detect normal aircraft. At the ranges we're attacking, they will have trouble seeing even non-stealth fighters. At 1,000 miles detecting a stealth aircraft requires more power than those ships have. At 400 miles, on the other hand, it becomes marginally easier. They will see our missiles coming in, not from maximum range but they will see them, and with time to be able to react. The Imsdals and the Dreamcatchers both fly high intercept flights, meaning that they will be moving very fast at very high altitudes. They dive to near surface-height for the attack, maximizing speed to the point where the Imsdal is moving at Mach 8 and the Dreamcatchers are in excess of 15,000 miles per hour. They were designed with the same type of modifications we make to our ICBM warheads, allowing them maximum speed, high agility, and low RCS. Our missiles are coated with RAM material. Our Voodoo, a large missile, will most likely have the most success. It travels high for a while, then down low, at Mach 3, and it is coated with RAM. They will be seen between 50 and 80 miles out, not enough time to react. Their terminal stage puts them at Mach 8. Our CALCM missiles, on the other hand, fly high altitude and come down to attack on a steep angle, making it that much harder to engage with CIWS. They make a near vertical dive on the target, maximizing speed and ballistics."

"Very well. What are the primary targets?"

"Sir we're focusing our missiles, for now, as follows. The Imsdals with the submunitions and DU sphere warheads will be focused as follows: 400 of the 700 with DU spheres against the carriers with the other 300 against the Paramount air defense vessels; 560 of the 1,060 with IISM submunitions will be put on the carriers with the remaining 500 against the Paramount vessels; and lastly the 400 with the AUP warheads will be focused against the carriers. They have 9 carriers sir. Each carrier will be taking 44 AUP warheads, 62 IISM warheads, and 44 DU warheads, that is 150 missiles per carrier. They have 36 air defense vessels and they will each be taking 8 DU warheads and 13 IISM warheads. The goal is to disable their entire mast array system, disabling them heavily. The 1,080 CALCMs will be focused against many vessels. They have 36 more destroyers and 27 cruisers. Each destroyer will be taking 15 Block III and 15 Block IIIA missiles and each cruiser will be taking 20 Block III missiles and 20 Block IIIA missiles. The 120 Voodoo missiles will be focused on the 9 carriers, each carrier taking 13. Sir we don't believe a carrier could stay alive with more than 3 hits. The Dreamcatchers will be focused as follows. Each one with a BLU-113 warhead will have enough kinetic energy to punch a hole through half of a carrier. With 1,080 of them, we will focus 180 on the carriers, 20 per ship; 450 against the logistics vessels, 10 per ship; and the remaining 450 against the cruisers, destroyers, and air defense vessels, with roughly 4 per vessel. Obviously, the math is off and some vessels will recieve a extra missile or two but it is generally organized like that sir."

"Will their fighters be able to reach us at this range?"

"Sir, they have a range of 3,480 miles. Our bombers at 1,000 miles will be the most vulnerable. However, that is at economy cruise speed and altitude. They have to get to altitude, evade allied fighters in the air, and make it back home. Sir, the Voodoo, Imsdal, and CALCM launchers are the most vulnerable. We're going to have them protected heavily with F-25s and F-39s. We have 90 F-25s going and 24 F-39s. With three bomber groups we're going to split that evenly. In addition, sir, I recommend flying F-37s as well, heavily loaded with missiles. We can have 300 of them for immediate flight, split evenly amongst the groups."

"What's the loadout on those fighters and what of the faults of the F-39s?"

"Sir the F-39s are different than those of Soviet Bloc. We have dispatched with the advanced materials and coated them excessively with RAM. They are far better. The F-25s will be loaded with 12 AIM-204A Escape missiles, 8 AIM-120D-2 AMRAAM missiles, and 8 AIM-202A Dodsengel missiles. The F-37s will be loaded with 4 AIM-204A Escape missiles, 4 AIM-120D-2 AMRAAM missiles, 6 AIM-179C BVRAAM missiles, 6 AIM-202A Dodsengel missiles, and 2 external fuel tanks. The F-39s will be loaded with 6 AIM-204A Escape missiles, 7 AIM-120D-2 AMRAAM missiles, 4 AIM-179C BVRAAM missiles, and 4 AIM-202A Dodsengel missiles. This will give us a total 2,424 AIM-204A Escape missiles, 2,088 AIM-120D-2 AMRAAM missiles, 1,896 AIM-179C BVRAAM missiles, and 2,616 AIM-202A Dodsengel missiles."

"Alright. That is a good amount of missiles. We are looking at 1,125 fighters, if all of them get through. Where are our attack plans?"

"We plan on a group from the north, east, and south."

"Very well."

"I'll inform our allies that we need air cover and diversion as soon as possible. How long until our aircraft can be in the air?"

"Sir within two hours we can have each and every aircraft on the way through their waypoints. All of the aircraft will be launching at different times but the missiles will be on the target at the same time. It is quite an operation. Fighters and bombers can refuel over Hawaii and on the way back, which, should the Russians choose to follow, will lead them only into routes that will ensure that they will not have enough fuel to return to their carriers. They have a lot of hardware in the area and we're going to have to coordinate our strike sir."

"Understood. Is there more?"

"Well sir. There is. We could hit them with EMP shots like they did to the Cottish frigate."

"Which would give up the fact that we have said satellites."

"Yes sir."

"Perhaps we should send in some EMP shots and warn our allies."

"Plausible sir. We don't need to use our most powerful ones, we can tone down the power of the warhead from a 1 megaton equivalent to less."

"Do that. Take out 20 AUP Imsdals and put in EMPs and focus them against their fleets."

"Understood sir, two per fleet, three on the two furthest away."

"Yes."

"Very well we are done sir."

"Thank you."

The Emperor returned to his desk and picked up his phone to order the air assault. They would be on target soon after, a matter of hours.

Encrypted Max to Hawdawg, Hirgizstan, Cotland

The Empire is launching an air assault from land bases in the east. We will need significant air cover over the battlegroups. Our bombers will be launching from ranges of 850, 1,000, and 3,000 miles, which puts us out of their detection ranges but still, to escape all possible bad situations, we request that an air diversion be made to keep the Russians occupied for the time being. Aircraft will be on their way within two hours and within firing range within several other hours. The information is being transmitted as well.

War hath begun! The Emperor muttered in his head.

EDIT
Sorry should have mentioned this. These aircraft are taking off from secret airbases, well hidden with satellite jamming equipment, and all sorts of hi-tech goodies that make monitoring them pretty difficult, not to mention they aren't known very well within the inner ranks of the ILM, let alone the outside.

OOC: Okay Haw, i change my stance, i have a problem with an air-to-air missile that has an effective range of 250 km and claims to be MT.

Lay, so eh...ORBAT? Are you attacking my mainland?

Anyways, i am now waiting on Cot to respond in the Windhoek thread.

OOC: Okay Haw, i change my stance, i have a problem with an air-to-air missile that has an effective range of 250 km and claims to be MT.

Lay, so eh...ORBAT? Are you attacking my mainland?

Anyways, i am now waiting on Cot to respond in the Windhoek thread.

OOC: If you read my post you wouldn't need to ask that question and my orbat has been on the forums for ages now.

Tokyo, Japan

The news had reached the Japanese Government rather with a devastating force. The Temporary PM took his time in reading it, his 'Temporary' services before the Japanese first Election would be one filled with quite the adventure. He sighed, and thought to himself, then called in his secretary to make a direct com-link to all forces stationed in the Mediterranean Sea. She took the order, and left the room. He then recieved a call, with the undeniable ring signifying it was a patch-in. He sighed once more, and picked up the phone.

Somewhere southeast of Sicily

The Admiral of the two fleets was bussy filing his daily report. They have had no contact with-in the Government for months now, somewhat bored actually. But then something was brought to his attention by an eager Seaman, he picked up his phone and heard a voice that sempt so distant to him.

Transcript of the phone call

Junichiro Koizumi - Greetings Admiral, this is the Prime Minister speaking.

Admiral Niboru - Good day Mr. Koizumi, how glad I am to be recieving a call from someone of your position. I hear the Elections are to be under way soon, am I correct?

Koizumi - Yes, you are correct Admiral. Now, to bring you up to speeds with our international affairs. But first, what condition are you and your men in?

Niboru - Well, they are ready to fight if that is what you needed to know.

Koizumi - Good, that is all I needed to know. Are you with-in contact with our ground forces still stationed outside of Innsbruck?\

Niboru - I am sure we can establish a com-link. What are your orders besides that though, sir?

Koizumi - Nothing as of yet. I am speaking with you without the Diets' knowledge. I believe they will be expecting me to hold a conference with-in the hour. I shall contact you again soon.

Niboru - Yes, and thank you sir. I shall be awaiting your call, I'll let our forces in Austria know that it may be a bright idea to wake up.

OOC -

Try talking to about 5 girls on the phone while one is on AIM in the same house...who are bored and...well I won't tell you the second word...so I'll get back to you asap.

Japanese Ground Forces, just outside of Innsbruck Austria

Other than fraternizing with the Locals of Austria, the Japanese troops have been mostly 'bored'. They have been sitting for God knows how long now, and were pretty eager to do their job. Which was to shoot people, lots of people. Then came a call from their brothers at Sea.

Transcript of the Comlink

General Hiromito - This is General Hiromito, may I ask who is calling?

Admiral Niboru - This is Admiral Niboru, I have been asked by Prime Minister Koizumi to let you know to get your troops ready. We are supposedly going to meet, as far as where I am uncertain. I'll call you when I have been told more. Until then, keep your men ready.

Hiromito - Yes, Admiral, I will tell my men.

Niboru - Good, I shall contact you later.

Tokyo, Japan
The Diet Building...

Diet Rep - But what I don't understand is why now. We pull out of one war, and now we are expected to be put into another war. Why? Over something that has happened long ago, so long that Feldinchi was the leader then. Now we want to get involved over that in such a conflict now?

Diet Reps around the Random Rep - Yea!!

Prime Minister Koizumi - Gentlemen please...what was done those years ago was a grand atrosity. We made a promise to our brothers, and I intend to make sure we fulfil it. Besides, this will be a great chance to get our troops into some field work. And we also need to finally pick a side to things, no longer remaining Neutral. Perhaps a war like this will benefit our nation, and it would pose a great oppurtunity to score some points on our half of the board. Too long I say we have been inactive in the world, now it is our time to stand up.

Diet Reps for Koizumi - Yea!

Diet Rep standing on Koizumi's side of things - I agree. We have remained far too inactive and we need to climb out of this pit we dug our selves into. It is our time now.

Diet Reps for Koizumi - Yea!

And so hours flew by, and nearly 13 hours after the debate begun the Diet went into the polls. It was possibly the most heated debate the Government has had for decades now, and perhaps would play a roll in the up-comming elections.

Diet Results -

248 For Involvement
232 Against Involvement

Although the it was a tight Result, it sempt that the ones For Involvement would be granted their wishes.

Koizumi - Now that the Results have come, it has proved obvious what we must do as our next step. I shall return to my Office and make the calls and arange our Armies already overseas, and we shall hold a meeting again tommorow as to how we will run operations. Thank you Gentlemen, now I must go.

The Prime Minister walked away with a troubled smile on his face, and was seen no more.

Somewhere southeast of Sicily

The Phone rang at the Admiral's desk, after being told it was to be wired through, and he reached for it nervously. It was obvious that he felt somewhat uncomfortable, but he knew he could manage. He grabbed the piece, and put it to is ear and spoke into it.

Admiral Niboru - Greetings Prime Minister, any news on what I shall be doing next?

Prime Minister Koizumi - Greetings Admiral, and yes you would be correct. My orders for you are to harbor in Nice, France, and await further instruction. If you are stopped by any Patrolling Germanic ships, please do not show any sign of threat. I want only your ship to dock though, keep your other ships outside of North Germanian Bounderies. I wish to fly over after speaking with the Government of North Germania, perhaps we may also coordinate with them as well. I shall contact you soon.

Niboru - Yes, Prime Minister.

Telegram to the Government of North Germania

From - Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi
To - The Government of North Germania

Greetings Allies,

As you may have on file, my Military currently has troops stationed oustide of Innsbruck, Austria. Because of this, I wish to bring them onboard my many ships in use for a Foreign Operation. But first, I would wish to hold a Telecom Conference with your Leaders as soon as possible to get the okay for this. Until then, I shall be awaiting your response.

Sincerely,

Junichiro Koizumi.

OOC

I will talk to NG to make sure he gets involved for that small snibbit.

Okinawa, Japan

The Prime Minister had one more person to Contact. The Vice Admiral, Nagasaki. The conflict in Baker Island was far too close to Japanese interests, and infact held many interests in the Japanese Involvement. He arranged the Comlink, and was patched through to a rather surprised voice.

Vice Admiral Nagasaki - Mr. Koizumi?

Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi - Yes, greetings Vice Admiral. You are wondering why I am calling, I would only presume.

Nagasaki - Why yes, I heard what has been debated in the Chambers of Diet for the past few hours. I would only expect this call is because of that. I am guessing...Baker Island?

Koizumi - You know why I picked you as the Vice Admiral right?

Nagasaki - No, why sir?

Koizumi - Because of this, I love this about you. You are dead on, I guess all I do need to tell you is one thing. Prepare an Expeditionary Unit, I want the detail to focuse on Marines and Helicopters. But be pretty heavy on Turret count, this is going to be messy. But do not deploy until I call you back later. There are some more matters to attend too. I shall speak with you soon.

Nagasaki - Yes, Mr. Koizumi, I shall be expecting your call.

OOC

Those other matters are the Embassies I have neglected to reply too, so anyone who knows who I am talking too specifically be expecting replies by tommorow at 5PM CST ( it is 10 17 PM CST so I may not post there now.

And yes, I am still be secretive. I will not announce who I shall be fighting for until tommorow. Yes, now ponder on it.

OOC: I meant the ORBAT for this engagement. Also you're using bombers from far away to destroy my naval vessels? Okay good, you do realize that my Air Defense ships will be able to take care a lot of the missiles you send after my ships, but i'll leave that for my actual IC post.

OOC: I meant the ORBAT for this engagement. Also you're using bombers from far away to destroy my naval vessels? Okay good, you do realize that my Air Defense ships will be able to take care a lot of the missiles you send after my ships, but i'll leave that for my actual IC post.

OOC: Don't think you'll shoot down 80% of my missiles coming in and godmod through this. These missiles are moving very fast, very agile, very stealthy, and very well made. I know you are part of the Wank-o-Mactic club but tough...

OOC: You are firing a missile from a bomber from 1000 miles away, sir, you're the club president.

OOC - I forgot about this type of OOC...anyways

Lay is right. They are missiles anyways, they will do harm but you can still try and kick the shit out of any forces he may send...

but he generally just sticks to bombardment...

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OOC: You are firing a missile from a bomber from 1000 miles away, sir, you're the club president.


OOC: I know short range. I should extend the range of them.

OOC: Dude, atleast try to fake it as if you're keeping it MT. No cruise missile in existence has that range.

OOC: Dude, atleast try to fake it as if you're keeping it MT. No cruise missile in existence has that range.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-86.html
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-129.html


No nothing does.

OOC: Oh shit, alright.

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-28.html
700 mi in 1960s

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-48.html
1150 mi in 1960s

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/as-15-specs.htm

shall I continue?

OOC: Lay check your forums.

OOC: Okay Haw, i change my stance, i have a problem with an air-to-air missile that has an effective range of 250 km and claims to be MT.



It is modern tech and the information below proves it is capable in today's environment. Just because the US Navy dropped the ball and retired the AIM-54 Phoenix doesn't mean someone didn't develop a missile to further advance the ranges of the 31 year old technology, which in 1979 shot down a drone plane in at 212km. Engaging your planes at ranges up to 500km is a reality with modern advances in avionics, computers, and advanced rocket motors, you are going to have to deal with because the technology is very modern tech. I purchased the rights to produce this weapon from Soviet Bloc and I stand by it. It's been in my arsenal for RL months. It was one of the main selling points of the F-63.

Source below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix

Current US AIM-120D medium range rocket has ranges in excess of 110km and it is classed as a medium range rocket.

Source below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-120_AMRAAM

OOC: There is a difference between maximum range and effective combat range. During one of the tests a Soviet R-73 missile shot down a unmanned fighter going on a straight line from 250+ kilometers, that does not say anything about the effective combat range of that missile. There is a huge difference.

OOC: Pushka, you are using a V/STOVL plane with a 5,600km range. If that is MT then an air to air missile with a maximum range of 500km is doable.

OOC: AIM-54C weighs 1040kg. I am not saying a missile can't go that far, i am saying that a jet fighter can't carry a missile that can go that far. And also 500 km is doable, 500 km being effective range for an AA is not. Anyways, talk to SB ask him about the effective range, he usually puts it all in the perspective.

OOC: AIM-54C weighs 1040kg. I am not saying a missile can't go that far, i am saying that a jet fighter can't carry a missile that can go that far. And also 500 km is doable, 500 km being effective range for an AA is not.

AIM-54 weighs 1,040 lb. Lofting an air to air missile gives it much longer range too. How do you think the AIM-120, being lighter than the AIM-7, has a range massively longer? Lofting is great. Hell, how do you think the R-37 gets to 300km. I believe it can get out that far. That range isn't BS it probably can.

OOC: Aight, ma bad, anyways that doesn't cancel out the point that 140+ effective range is completely unrealistic in MT. Anyways, talk to SB, he'll sort it out for you.

OOC: Aight, ma bad, anyways that doesn't cancel out the point that 140+ effective range is completely unrealistic in MT. Anyways, talk to SB, he'll sort it out for you.

Mac doesn't have a 500km AAM does he?

OOC: Nope. Just look at AIM-120, look at R-73. Look at other designs on NS, nobody claims to have 500 km effective range.

OOC: They might. I have 400km max range on one of mine. I've got about 2,000 of them on the way too.

OOC: MTly, they can't, well they can be if they are carried by a bomber or maybe one on a belly for a jet fighter, but not 4 missiles on each side, thats ridiculus, if i knew you guys would techwank like that i would do the same to my own missiles.

I hear you talked to Tyr and the effective ranges vs. jet fighters are about half the max. If thats true, then thats reasonable.

OOC: You missed the whole point effective combat range of the AIM-54 Phoenix was 100nm in 1974, you got that 1974, 31 years ago. Understand technology has developed a little bit since then. I don't think trippling the range of a weapon in 31 damn years is too much of a stretch. If you really want to dissect technology, I can list all the stuff you have that isn't feasible, your list will be quite longer than mine. It would basically start with anything from The Macabees. I did talk to SB, I bought the damn thing from him. He RP'ed like I laid it out in the thread I already quoted.

OOC: MTly, they can't, well they can be if they are carried by a bomber or maybe one on a belly for a jet fighter, but not 4 missiles on each side, thats ridiculus, if i knew you guys would techwank like that i would do the same to my own missiles.

OOC: A V/STOVL fighter with 5,600km range that is barely bigger than the F-22 and not that much bigger than the F-35 (with double it's range or more) and 1.5x that of the F-22. With engines far more powerful than the F-35. Techwank. Yes we do....

OOC:

Mac's designs are some of the best on NS and your opinion doesn't matter on that. Either way i don't RP any of his stuff as giving me a clear upper hand in the engagement, with your 500 km hit wonder missiles i can't do shit to hurt you. Another question is how the hell are you detecting my planes at those ranges? And an effective range against a bomber is not the same as effective range against a jet fighter.

The bombers were preparing to loft themselves into the air. From Hawaii it was 1,920 miles but they weren't flying from Hawaii, they were flying from Ynoga and South Eastern Virginia. From San Salvador it was 6,040 miles and from Bogotá it was 7,070 miles. Aerial refueling was a must. The Layartebian battlegroups in the Pacific, steaming westward, which weren't due in the area for days, would provide refueling. Their KA-3 Skywarriors would do the best as well as land-based KC-10s and KC-26s already in the air as per usual flight supporting. With subsonic speeds it would take them in excess of 12 hours to get to the target areas and slightly less to their launch points, perhaps two hours less.

OOC:

Mac's designs are some of the best on NS and your opinion doesn't matter on that. Either way i don't RP any of his stuff as giving me a clear upper hand in the engagement, with your 500 km hit wonder missiles i can't do shit to hurt you. Another question is how the hell are you detecting my planes at those ranges? And an effective range against a bomber is not the same as effective range against a jet fighter.

OOC: Exactly why it's pointless to argue with this guy. His opinion is the only one that matters and that is it. This is where my OOC addresses stop. I've got you blocked on AIM and I shall pass off your OOC comments as well.

OOC: A V/STOVL fighter with 5,600km range that is barely bigger than the F-22 and not that much bigger than the F-35 (with double it's range or more) and 1.5x that of the F-22. With engines far more powerful than the F-35. Techwank. Yes we do....

Does that 5600 km range give me the certainty that i win every engagement? No it doesn't. Screw it, you guys are impossible, and this is just the last show of it. You say that it all comes down to how well you RP, but the thing is i don't RP magic 500 km effective range missiles and that means that i am denied ability to win engagements. I am done with you hypocrites. Thats it. If he can use such great ass missiles, how about i just change the stats on my long range missiles to even out the odds? You spit on realism and yet you find in yourself to mock me.

OOC:

As a purely neutral observer, I'd like to ask everyone to please calm down, and tone down the OOC hate. This is a game, after all.

That said, I'm wondering how you guys are firing those missiles from extreme-range, without Pushka's passive countermeasures detecting your active RADAR. If you've got 500 km range, that means your RADAR set is pumping out extreme amounts of RF energy that would lead to the target's warning computers blaring out alerts loud enough to burst a pilot's eardrums.

Bear in mind, I'm just curious.

OOC:

As a purely neutral observer, I'd like to ask everyone to please calm down, and tone down the OOC hate. This is a game, after all.

That said, I'm wondering how you guys are firing those missiles from extreme-range, without Pushka's passive countermeasures detecting your active RADAR. If you've got 500 km range, that means your RADAR set is pumping out extreme amounts of RF energy that would lead to the target's warning computers blaring out alerts loud enough to burst a pilot's eardrums.

Bear in mind, I'm just curious.

Quite right. 500km is a long way to be firing and all you have to do is turn around and the missile's range envelope shrinks exponentially. Hawdawg may have a missile that goes 500km like my 400km Dodsengel but that doesn't mean it is going to be very effective at maximum range. I see firing a missile at that range to be a scare tactic, kind of telling the bad guys to back off. They're more like warning shots. This is why I adapted the Dodsengel for datalink so if I shoot it off at like 250km it doesn't need the launcher aircraft saying "Hello" to guide it. It's own active radar turns on at terminal, which is about 10 - 20km, if it is on active-radar mode.

OOC: MTly, they can't, well they can be if they are carried by a bomber or maybe one on a belly for a jet fighter, but not 4 missiles on each side, thats ridiculus, if i knew you guys would techwank like that i would do the same to my own missiles.


Specs on how I have (4) VEE-RAID Missiles on the Airframe from Dat' Pizdy SF:
The heart of the Svarog armament system is the internal stores system. This system is divided into three internal armament bays: a large centrally mounted bay and twin off-set bays. The centrally mounted bay is the home of a revolving drum which carries the Tengriy's most lethal munitions: its four largest air-to-air missiles for well beyond visual range [WBVR] engagements. However, the actual armament varies by nation, but the Armed Republic utilizes four Kretchet Variable Range Air-to-Air Insured Destruction Weapons [VRAAID; VRAID].


And this is how I can see you.
The final portion of the three-point non-optical detection suite is the Comprehensive RADAR Primary Threat Detection System [PTDS]. The primary system of the PTDS is the Combined Radar Suite, composed primarily of the ALRQ/R73 Next Generation LPI [low/no probability of intercept] Active Electronically Scanned Array multi-function radar with a full three hundred-sixty degree range of two hundred-seventy [270] miles courtesy of planar arrays through out the air-frame, including twin arrays in the tail. The forward arc viewing range, due to an enhanced emission set is around three hundred-fifty [350] miles, especially with the bundled AMRQ/R77. This is augmented by an ASRQ/R10 short range composite ID radar, and the SPR-005 Panoramic Passive Radar Imager [PPRI] to offer a unique geo-location ability.

OOC: Well since now even Mr. Jesus aka Lay doesn't claim that 500 km is effective range against my fighters, Haw you should not expect me to take many casualties, and i won't.

OOC:

Pushka, again, please lay off on the OOC biting.

Erm, Hawdawg, you may wish to re-read that part about the RADAR set in the Tengriy...

According to google calculator:

270 miles = 434.5288 km

And of course, 270 mi is optimal range, under perfect conditions, and probably against a target without a low RCS. Even so, you aren't getting 500 km detection by any sense of the word.

OOC: Well since now even Mr. Jesus aka Lay doesn't claim that 500 km is effective range against my fighters, Haw you should not expect me to take many casualties, and i won't.

I never tell anyone how many casualties to take as that is bad RPing edict. Your gripe was 500km missiles couldn't exist, my point is 31 year old technology can advance. Sure shooting at your planes at maximum range isn't effective too much time to duck, dive, and dodge the inbounds. I never argued that point. Dictating to me what capabilities my equipment can or can't do isn't kosher. It follows too closely to the BS The Macabees tried here not too long ago. I have provided all the links to my technology and its all there for the reading. I have studied your stuff and even taken notes, take a minute to read about mine before you go off on a tangent and claim something isn't feasible.

OOC:

Pushka, again, please lay off on the OOC biting.

Erm, Hawdawg, you may wish to re-read that part about the RADAR set in the Tengriy...

According to google calculator:

270 miles = 434.5288 km

And of course, 270 mi is optimal range, under perfect conditions, and probably against a target without a low RCS. Even so, you aren't getting 500 km detection by any sense of the word.

OOC: Quite true. I use the ISAR/SAR type radars which give me a pretty good range but the range of detection for low RCS targets is much smaller than that of larger fighters and bombers. You could probably see 500km on a B-52, I mean it's the size of a continent. The F-22 though, not as far, and the NS gen stealth much less. Now if the radar is datalinked to ground or sea-based high powered phased array and other advanced radars then it moots the point of your radar and you fire your missiles datalink. Here I am giving away my secrets.

MR. BIGGLES THE BUNNY SHALL RULE THE WORLD

Now that I have your attention, would anyone with the plates of PLZ STFU please turn their car off, their exhaust seems to be spewing a lot of shit.

OOC:

Erm, Hawdawg, you may wish to re-read that part about the RADAR set in the Tengriy...

According to google calculator:

270 miles = 434.5288 km

And of course, 270 mi is optimal range, under perfect conditions, and probably against a target without a low RCS. Even so, you aren't getting 500 km detection by any sense of the word.

Point taken, damn conversions. But keep in mind he has some 200 fighters in the area of operations, that would make a significant image on a AEGIS setup. Since I didn't RP my AEGIS involved in the launch the missile launch could be construed as a scare tactic, fired upon the last known position of the Russian Fighters. If you fire 96 missiles into a group of 200 planes you are bound to hit something.

I never tell anyone how many casualties to take as that is bad RPing edict. Your gripe was 500km missiles couldn't exist, my point is 31 year old technology can advance. Sure shooting at your planes at maximum range isn't effective too much time to duck, dive, and dodge the inbounds. I never argued that point. Dictating to me what capabilities my equipment can or can't do isn't kosher. It follows too closely to the BS The Macabees tried here not too long ago. I have provided all the links to my technology and its all there for the reading. I have studied your stuff and even taken notes, take a minute to read about mine before you go off on a tangent and claim something isn't feasible.

OOC: As i have indicated many times i was talking about the effective range. But now that we're on the same page expect a reply from me either tomorrow or within a few days, i might be too preocupied this whole next week.

--EDIT--

Ah its not 200 planes, its 63 planes, the other 147 are flying for Howland and the other 50 are still inside the aircraft carriers.

The bombers and fighters began to converge on each other. The three groups would fly in smaller, separate groups, avoiding a massive, collective radar signature. The spacing would allow them to maintain their extreme stealth abilities. Tactics pioneered with the first F-117s in the 1980s led to this and would allow them to stay much more hidden than they normally would be, a great thing. They climbed high, to 70,000 feet, where they would cruise out to their target points at subsonic speeds, maximizing their range and minimizing their radar signature from air friction. A supersonic bird, no matter how stealthy, only made itself glow on every infrared scope for thousands of miles. The SR-71 was an unfortunate victim of this, stealthy when subsonic, but awfully bright when supersonic. Still, at Mach 3 nothing could touch it and if these bombers needed to, they could accelerate to maximum speed to get out of dodge.

Satellites would provide real-time coverage of both the battle unfolding and the bombers as they turned inbound, each of them having over twenty-four waypoints to have to fly through, just to get to their IP. They way home was another seventeen to thirty-nine waypoints. It was going to be a long night for them.

As they flew west, the time would decrease but as they flew east, the time would regain. They were going to be on a very long sortie, which required a lot of alertness. The fighter pilots had it the worst. Though their cockpits weren't cramped, over that many hours inside of a space like that would eventually become just too much to handle. They were advised to powernap when possible.

This was not the greatest strike in the history of the Empire nor would it be the weakest. This was an initial strike, meant to send a clear message.

Japanese Ground Forces, just outside of Innsbruck Austria

Other than fraternizing with the Locals of Austria, the Japanese troops have been mostly 'bored'. They have been sitting for God knows how long now, and were pretty eager to do their job. Which was to shoot people, lots of people. Then came a call from their brothers at Sea.

Transcript of the Comlink

General Hiromito - This is General Hiromito, may I ask who is calling?

Admiral Niboru - This is Admiral Niboru, I have been asked by Prime Minister Koizumi to let you know to get your troops ready. We are supposedly going to meet, as far as where I am uncertain. I'll call you when I have been told more. Until then, keep your men ready.

Hiromito - Yes, Admiral, I will tell my men.

Niboru - Good, I shall contact you later.

Tokyo, Japan
The Diet Building...

Diet Rep - But what I don't understand is why now. We pull out of one war, and now we are expected to be put into another war. Why? Over something that has happened long ago, so long that Feldinchi was the leader then. Now we want to get involved over that in such a conflict now?

Diet Reps around the Random Rep - Yea!!

Prime Minister Koizumi - Gentlemen please...what was done those years ago was a grand atrosity. We made a promise to our brothers, and I intend to make sure we fulfil it. Besides, this will be a great chance to get our troops into some field work. And we also need to finally pick a side to things, no longer remaining Neutral. Perhaps a war like this will benefit our nation, and it would pose a great oppurtunity to score some points on our half of the board. Too long I say we have been inactive in the world, now it is our time to stand up.

Diet Reps for Koizumi - Yea!

Diet Rep standing on Koizumi's side of things - I agree. We have remained far too inactive and we need to climb out of this pit we dug our selves into. It is our time now.

Diet Reps for Koizumi - Yea!

And so hours flew by, and nearly 13 hours after the debate begun the Diet went into the polls. It was possibly the most heated debate the Government has had for decades now, and perhaps would play a roll in the up-comming elections.

Diet Results -

248 For Involvement
232 Against Involvement

Although the it was a tight Result, it sempt that the ones For Involvement would be granted their wishes.

Koizumi - Now that the Results have come, it has proved obvious what we must do as our next step. I shall return to my Office and make the calls and arange our Armies already overseas, and we shall hold a meeting again tommorow as to how we will run operations. Thank you Gentlemen, now I must go.

The Prime Minister walked away with a troubled smile on his face, and was seen no more.

Somewhere southeast of Sicily

The Phone rang at the Admiral's desk, after being told it was to be wired through, and he reached for it nervously. It was obvious that he felt somewhat uncomfortable, but he knew he could manage. He grabbed the piece, and put it to is ear and spoke into it.

Admiral Niboru - Greetings Prime Minister, any news on what I shall be doing next?

Prime Minister Koizumi - Greetings Admiral, and yes you would be correct. My orders for you are to harbor in Nice, France, and await further instruction. If you are stopped by any Patrolling Germanic ships, please do not show any sign of threat. I want only your ship to dock though, keep your other ships outside of North Germanian Bounderies. I wish to fly over after speaking with the Government of North Germania, perhaps we may also coordinate with them as well. I shall contact you soon.

Niboru - Yes, Prime Minister.

Telegram to the Government of North Germania

From - Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi
To - The Government of North Germania

Greetings Allies,

As you may have on file, my Military currently has troops stationed oustide of Innsbruck, Austria. Because of this, I wish to bring them onboard my many ships in use for a Foreign Operation. But first, I would wish to hold a Telecom Conference with your Leaders as soon as possible to get the okay for this. Until then, I shall be awaiting your response.

Sincerely,

Junichiro Koizumi.

OOC

I will talk to NG to make sure he gets involved for that small snibbit.

Okinawa, Japan

The Prime Minister had one more person to Contact. The Vice Admiral, Nagasaki. The conflict in Baker Island was far too close to Japanese interests, and infact held many interests in the Japanese Involvement. He arranged the Comlink, and was patched through to a rather surprised voice.

Vice Admiral Nagasaki - Mr. Koizumi?

Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi - Yes, greetings Vice Admiral. You are wondering why I am calling, I would only presume.

Nagasaki - Why yes, I heard what has been debated in the Chambers of Diet for the past few hours. I would only expect this call is because of that. I am guessing...Baker Island?

Koizumi - You know why I picked you as the Vice Admiral right?

Nagasaki - No, why sir?

Koizumi - Because of this, I love this about you. You are dead on, I guess all I do need to tell you is one thing. Prepare an Expeditionary Unit, I want the detail to focuse on Marines and Helicopters. But be pretty heavy on Turret count, this is going to be messy. But do not deploy until I call you back later. There are some more matters to attend too. I shall speak with you soon.

Nagasaki - Yes, Mr. Koizumi, I shall be expecting your call.

OOC

Those other matters are the Embassies I have neglected to reply too, so anyone who knows who I am talking too specifically be expecting replies by tommorow at 5PM CST ( it is 10 17 PM CST so I may not post there now.

And yes, I am still be secretive. I will not announce who I shall be fighting for until tommorow. Yes, now ponder on it.

Reminder I will get involved.

OOC: First, let me say this: Holy fucking shit, you guys are ranting! Anyway, now that that's been taken care of, it's good to see that we have gotten more information on the things we have, Makes for a better and more detailed RP. I'll get a post up once I've reviewed this whole shmack. It's 60+ friggin' posts. Anyway, expect an IC response in a few hours.

CVBG 21 - ETA Area of Operations Baker Island: 7 hours

"Foreløpig rapport! Fienden har skutt ned en del av våre missiler, men vi har påført dem tap. Satelittene våre ser flere russiske skip i ferd med å synke!" [Preliminary report! The enemy has taken down some of our missiles, but we have inflicted losses. Our satellites see several Russian ships sinking.]

"Takk Gud.... Avfyr andre salve!" [Thank God... Fire second volley!] the Admiral ordered. Thirty seconds later, another 330 Imsdals were fired from the Vulkan class arsenal ship. That was the last of her cruise missiles. Now, she just had air defense missiles left. However, she wasn't the only ship in the battlegroup carrying Imsdals. The two Tordenskiold class cruisers, the eight Indefatigable class (http://cotland.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=ships&action=display&thread=1141588730) and four Infernal class (http://cotland.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=ships&action=display&thread=1141589144) destroyers in the battlegroup also carried Imsdals. As did the two Hades class submarines which escorted the CVBG. Now, the two cruisers sent a total of 56 Imsdals to join the 330 already in the air, while two of the destroyers fired their entire Imsdal load. In total, 400 Imsdal-A [AUP] and 86 Imsdal-B missiles were fired at the Russian fleet. Then...

"Vampyr, vampyr, vampyr! Innkommende missiler, avstand fem hundre nautiske og nærmer seg raskt!" [Vampyre, vampyre, vampyre! Incoming missiles, range five hundred nautical and closing fast!]

Immediately, the mood in the CIC changed. Things started happening that the Cots didn't like. The powerful ISAR radar array in the mast of the destroyers and cruisers had detected the incoming Russian missiles heading for them. It seemed like there were hundreds of them! Fortunately, after the whole incident with the Panthean missile attack at Bouvet Island just before the annexation, the whole fleets CIWS strategy had been reviewed and improved. For instance, the anti-missile defense command wasn't aboard the carrier anymore. No, it had secretly been transfered to one of the cruisers in the battlegroup.

Aboard the brand new Tordenskiold class (http://cotland.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=ships&action=display&thread=1141588208) cruiser, keys were turned and datalink priorities reorganized. The digital CIC of the vessel now showed the battlegroup on a chart of the Area of Operations, with various three-dimentional colored circles eminating from the various symbols which indicated the ships of the battlegroup. The circles were the ranges of the various air defense systems the CVBG had available, with the outermost, which symbolized the RIM-161A SM-3ER missile with its 300 nautical mile maximum and 270 nautical mile effective range, beign green. That was the missile which would be fired first. Then, if the SM-3s didn't get all the enemy missiles, the RIM-162E Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles would engage the targets. The ESSMs had a maximum range of 50 nautical miles and a effective range of 45. This wasn't it only trick. Being fitted with thrust-vectoring instead of wings, it was a lot more manouverable than older missiles. That and its speed of Mach 4.6 would allow it to quickly take out incoming threats. However, the ships didn't rely completely on the ESSM, so it had the last tricks. The RIM-116C Block IIA Rolling Airframe Missile. This little bastard had an effective range of only five nautical miles, but then again, it had one purpose and one purpose alone: the close defense of the fleet. It flew straight to target from its Mk.49 box launcher, which held 21 missiles each, to the target. It was also extremely manouverable and solid, able to deal with up to 65 positive and 43 negative Gs before it broke apart. The missile was available in large quantities, with each warship in the battlegroup having at least two Mk.49 box launchers. And if that wasn't enough, the last-ditch defense was there. The Mk.99 and the Mk.102, which was replacing the Mk.99 as the CIWS mount of the fleet. The Mk.99 fired the powerful 30mm round, ensuring destruction whereever it hit. Unfortunately, each mount only carried 6000 rounds. Not enough to cope with a large-scale missile raid. That was why the Cottish naval engineers had come up with the Mk.102, a 25mm gatling cannon which held a staggering 15,500 rounds. Sure, it took more space, but the space was necessary for the ammunition which would save the ship. As such, only the Bergen class air defense frigates, Mjelde class frigates and the Enterprise class carrier herself carried the Mk.99 mount while the rest of the ships carried the Mk.102 mount. It was an impressive amount of munitions, but it was necessary in order to defend the battlegroup. However, that many munitions were no good without a good command and control unit, which was why all the missiles and CIWS mounts were commanded by one system instead of the command systems aboard the individual ships. All the information went to the CIC aboard the cruiser. Now, it was decided to engage the incoming enemy missiles with the SM-3ERs the moment they entered the 300 nautical mile marker. The keys were flipped one more time, turning the system into automatic mode. Now, the fire control computers would decide which ship fired what weapon at what target.

Meanwhile, the escort captains manouvered their ships so that any enemy missile which might pass would have to make it past the escorts before they got to the carrier. The frigates formed the outer defense picket, while the destroyers and cruisers made up the inner defense picket. Every ship was at battlestations and ready to fire its missiles. The second the incoming missiles came within 300 nautical miles, the weather hatches on the Mk.51 VLS tubes on the Bergen class frigates opened and spewed out its contents. Missile after missile was poured out and sent into the incoming missile's path. The two boosters quickly propelled the missiles to Mach 8 while the missiles manouvered themselves into position using guidance from the powerful radars on the ships. Bye bye missiles.

At the same time, the comm from the Layartebians was recieved and two squadrons of A-5D Vigilante bombers ready on the carriers were launched. The bombers carried a wide array of weaponry, from Harpoons to JDAMs to JSOWs and Mk.82 Slicks. They were launched along with a squadron of F-37G Razor fighters armed for air to air. AIM-120D AMRAAMs, AIM-204B Dødsengels, AIM-207A IRIS-Ts and AIM-217A BVRAAMs. They would do a raid on Baker Island and send some munitions at it, hopefully drawing some Russian fighters away from the Layartebian raid.

HMS [i]Standhaftig
The situation was improving somewhat. They tried their best to bypass the automatic failsafes in an attempt of restarting the reactor. Things were looking brighter, and they were managing it. However, it would be at least another hour and a half before they could hope to restart it. In the meanwhile, some of the crew had gone deep into the arsenal and found some of the FIM-186A Wizard MANPADs. They only had one MANPAD and seven missiles, but it would, at best, take out seven enemies. In addition, now that the fighters were crawling all over the place, the sailors on the MG26A2s opened fire, sending powerful 12.7x99mm projectiles into the air. Perhaps not enough to take out a plane, but enough to let them know where they shouldn't go.

"Har du tone?" [You got tone?]

"Jepp. Har en i sikte... SKYTER!" [Yep. Got one in my sights... FIRING!]

The Wizard streaked out of the MANPAD and straight up and after a Russian fighter which was just within range of the Wizard. With any luck, the missile would hit before it ran out of fuel. Without waiting to see if it hit, the Cots reloaded and waited for another ruskie to enter their sights.

Oslo
"Situasjonen er akseptabel. Mediene vet ikke hvorfor vi har mobilisert..." [The situation is acceptable. The medias know nothing of the reason why we mobilized...]

The door to the briefing room slammed open and an officer from the Air Force bolted in.

"Mediene vet det! Slå på NRK." [The medias know! Put NRK on.]

The admiral closest to the 42-inch flatscreen LCD TV on the wall turned it on and the familiar blue background of NRKs news studio marked a backdrop to the anchorman sitting in a decent-looking suit and a somber look on his face as he passed the news on. In the top left corner in a red rectangle, the words "EKSTRA" and "DIREKTE" showed through the red rectangle, indicating that it was an extra broadcast that went out live. On the right-hand side of the image was a Cottish flag, a helmet and dog tags and the word "KRIG" underneath.

"...jeg gjentar, anonyme kilder i Forsvarsministeriet har informert oss at Cottiske og allierte krigsskip utveksler ild med russiske krigsskip og fly. Mobiliseringen av styrker og disse rapportene har bare én forklaring. Riket er i krig med Russland." [...I repeat, anonymous sources within the Ministry of Defense has informed us that Cottish and allied warships are exchanging fire with Russian warships and airplanes. The mobilization of our forces and these reports have but one explenation. The Realm is at war with Russia.]

John Alvheim, minister of defense grabbed the remote and muted the TV, which now showed M5A2 Løve MBTs being driven out of Home Guards depots by reservists dressed in BDUs. He looked at the men and women in the room, but said nothing. A two-star general spoke first.

"Kanskje vi burde bekrefte dette...? Sørge for at folket vet hva som skjer. Vi har jo brent oss på å ikke gi informasjon tidligere..." [Perhaps we should confirm these messages. Make sure that the people knows whats happening. We've burned our asses earlier by not giving any information...]

The people in the room mumbled their support of the suggestion, but Alvheim hessitated. He needed to inform PM Rothsky who was in Africa first. Picking up the cellphone, he pressed 1 on the speed-dial and got connected immediately.

"Thomas, det er John. Mediene vet hva som skjer. Vi har en lekkasje et sted her inne. Ja, jeg vet det. Jeg skal ta meg av den, men du må komme deg tilbake hit med en gang. Hvem vet hva de gærne jævlene kan finne på. Greit, snakkes." [Thomas, it's John. The media knows what's going on. We've got a leak in here somewhere. Yeah, I know. I'll deal with it, but you've got to get back here immediately. Who knows what those crazy sons-of-bitches might pull. Fine, I'll talk to you later.]

He hung up and simply nodded. A statement was quickly drafted and Alvheim got ready to go on international television. This proud old man was intimidating to begin with, but now he looked directly dangerous with his icy cold eyes and neutral expression. He got on the stand and waited 'til the journalists had calmed down before he started.

"Jeg har en kunngjøring. Tidligere i dag ble Hans Majestets Skip 'Standhaftig' angrepet av russiske militære myndigheter. Angrepet førte til at skipet mistet all kraft og at minst fire medlemmer av mannskapet ble drept. Som et resultat eksisterer det per nå en krigstilstand mellom det Cottiske Riket og den Russiske Føderasjon. Vi krever en uvilkårlig overgivelse fra den Russiske Føderasjon, en full beklagelse og erstatning for skadene påført vårt skip. Vi krever og at den Russiske Føderasjon betaler erstatning til de etterlatte etter de fire døde sjøfolkene. Familiene til de drepte har blitt informert av de militære styresmakter. For øyeblikket er kamphandlingene begrenset til Stillehavet. Vi skal ikke føre krigen til det globale plan før vi har mottatt et svar fra de russiske styresmakter. Inntil da kommer vi til å bevare vår nåværende forsvarsberedskap i nordområdene, som er BeredskapsStatus én. Takk." [I have an announcement. Earlier today, His Majestys Ship 'Standhaftig' was attacked by Russian military authorities. The attack lead to the full loss of power aboard the ship and the death of at least four members of her crew. As a result, a state of war currently exists between the Realm of Cotland and the Russian Federation. We demand an unconditional surrender from the Russian Federation, a full appology and compensation for the damages inflicted upon our vessel. We also demand that the Russian Federation pays compensation to the families of the four murdered sailors. The families of the dead has been informed by the military authorities. At present, the hostilities have been limited to the Pacific Ocean. We shall not bring the war to the global level until we have recieved a reply from the Russian authorities. Until then, we shall remain at our current defensive alert in the northern territories, which is Readyness Level One. Thank you.]

The small CG fleet was close to the shore of Howland when the ships radars and sensors began to go crazy. Over 2000 Missiles were in bound. The ships immediately began to spread out, they had just over 15 minutes before the first of the missiles hit.

The experimental ship defense version of the 'Big Blue' Missiles were readied in their deck mounted launchers. However, there were so many missiles, survival looked pretty doubtful, however it was hoped the Missile, still experimental in defense based terms, would confuse the tracking systems of the Russian Missiles, at least allowing one or two ships to survive. Then the Admiral of the small Fleet then made what was probably his final decision.

Immediately the scared crews, adrenaline and fear gripping them at once, began to target and prep the BGM-109 Missiles they carried. Within 10 minutes 1025 BGM-109 Cruise Missiles had lifted off from the 15 ships that carried them.

Then the Big Blue Missiles, their shiny surface glinting in the sun, streaked off their launchers and dissappeared into the sky.

The first wave of the Russian Missiles went crazy due to the Big Blue system, only three got through, all destroyed by CIWS systems. The crews breathed heavy sighs of relief. But then the full force of the Russian missiles bore down upon the small band of ships. The CIWS and RAM systems were working overtime, spewing missiles and lead high into the air. The air itself seemed to burn.

Two of the Sprunace Class destroyers took several hits amidships, causing them to begin sinking extremely quickly. The third destroyer was obliterated nearly completed by more than five direct hits, after one missile took out the upper structure, rendering the CIWS systems useless.

The fourth destroyer took a hit on the prow and another Russian missile, veering slightly off course due to the Big Blue ECM effects, crashed across the rear deck sweeping two SH-60R's into the sea.

Three Arliegh Burke Class ships were destroyed and were sinking, alarm klaxons wailing, sailors diving off the railings and hurriedly trying to get life boats into the sea as it rose to meet them. A fourth Arleigh Burke was dead in the water after repeated hits to the superstructure, but it remained floating. The last functional Arleigh Burke class had almost run aground close to shore and had, in a twist of luck, been protected by Anti-Missile fire from forces on Howland Island.

The Big Blue Missiles were doing a fairly good job, but the falling Russian missiles were a hazard, even if they weren't on target. They spewed like depth charges as some of them crashed wildly into the sea, sometimes just inches away from the ships, one or two actually veering off course only to hit ships underneath the water, causing torpedo like damage.

Two of the Oliver Hazard Perry Class frigates had survived blows to their superstructure and hull, but were still floating, despite raging fires and heavy casualties. The other three had been hit and had sunk quickly.

The two Minehunter ships had been utterly obliterated, one burning on the sand banks around the island.

Two Coastal Patrol vessels had also been hit by the missiles, one managing to stay close enough to shore to be protected and was, apart from a hit to the rear deck, intact.

The lone San Antonio Class LPD had survived but had taken damage to its rear flight deck and upper hull, but was still functional.

The THAADS Missile cruiser had run aground after taking a punishing hit to the centre hull, it would have been sunk if it hadn't shored up. The final MEADS Frigate was one of the only ships not to have been hit by the Russian Missiles, it had used some of its Medium Extended Air Defense Missiles to protect itself, but had been late out of port, thus unable to provide any protection to the rest of the small fleet.

The six Attack submarines were manouvering away from the area, ready to strike at a moment's notice in retaliation, that is if the 1025 Missiles didn't finish the remainder of the two Russian flotillas nearby.

Losses:

3 Sprunace Class Destroyers
3 Arliegh Burke Class, with one crippled.
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Class, two further crippled, but functional.
2 Osprey Class
1 Cyclone Class
1 THAADS Missile Cruiser

OOC: Pushka, previously I fired 400 Penguin ASM Missiles, and I just fired 1025 BGM-109's. You already wrote about the sinking of 'several' ships by the 400 Penguin Missiles, but if possible I'd like to know the numbers and types.

OOC: Standard reponse would be one interceptor missile for every incoming, followed by usage of all possible CIWS batteries. So yes assume i launched missiles.

And if i sink those subs with those ASROCs, can we call a truce? Il pick up my survivors from the other destroyers and bug out with the last one.

OOC: Cotland i fired a very large amount of missiles at you. Where are your casualties?

OOC: I knew I forgot something! Sorry man, just a bit hard to keep track of the 2+ pages of OOC ranting. Anyway, how many missiles did you fire at me, and what type were they?

OOC: I have fired about 2200 missiles at the 3 of you, Hirgy and Haw already posted their casualties, although Hirgy's casualties seem a bit too low. Also i did state specifically that for the portion of missiles flying at you i concentrated the fire on your Arsenal ship, but that doesn't mean that the rest of your fleet got no apples. Missiles i use are:

Shockhound Avenger I anti-shipping missile

Sledgehammer anti-shipping Missile

Stats for both can be found at Kregzimer storefront.

OOC: Pushka, you realise out of 20 ships only four are fully functional, there are some others floating, but they're beyond repairing, unless a massive Naval dockyard suddenly appears on Howland. I thought obliterating the whole CG fleet would have been a bit over-zealous. Its not like 4 Coast Guard ships, heavily burdened with casualties and pretty much outnumbered, are going to pose a threat?
I could probably re-edit and destroy more ships, but do you get my reasoning?

Cotland, in one of my earlier posts I had a Sprunace Class destroyer make morese code (via signalling lights) with your EMP stricken vessel. If you respond to it I could try and e-vac the wounded crewmen or something.

OOC: This is my IC post, and this is my IC post's soundtrack, please click adds a shitload to the atmosphere.

http://download.sovmusic.ru/m/officers.mp3

IC:

Near the Baker

The two fleets near the Baker island were no longer a fighting unit, all ships but 2 Iluminum class destroyers were sank, and those two remaining were damaged beyond repair, on fire, but the Russian steel was still holding. Two matroses still alive on the main deck dropped the useless and empty fire extinguishers.

Kolya: "Все давай курить." [Thats it, lets smoke]

They made their way to the edge of the main deck and set down quietly. Kolya got out a pack of cigarretes and shared one with his friends.

Kolya: "Артем, вот уйдем сослужбы поедем с тобой в мой город покажу тебе настоящюю жизнь, ты ведь из деревни." [Artem, then we finnish the service i am taking you to my city, going to show you real life, you're from a village, you need to see it]

Artem: "Конешно поедем...гах эх была бы жизнь хороша если бы не этот долбаный дым." [Of course we will...*coughing* life would be good if not for this damn smoke]

At the same time at the buttom level of the burning ship the Captain of the vessel and an old Strashina were working the levers trying to release the kingstones. Final clap and they succeded, whatever started pouring in quickly. The duty to the motherland was done, there was nothing else left.

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100 nm off Baker

Admiral Gregorie: "So its the Layatrebians? Alright, here is what we will do, first discharge all cruise missiles batteries at the enemy fleets in the vacinity. Second, once Layatrebian missiles are within range immediately start intercepting them with the full battery of our air-defense ships. Third, get all the planes up in the air, order all to follow Scheme # 18 on enemy missile interception."

Admirals commands were carried out immediately. The Illumium missile cruisers fired all their ammo, 3200 Avenger I and 2200 Sledgehammer missiles flew to the skies. The Illumiums started to reload soon another such release would follow. CIWS were all set to motion filter as last line of defense. The Paramount class air defense vessels were ready to take on the incoming cloud. All 875 Lu-25s took to the air and started flying towards the swarming cloud of incoming Layatrebian missiles. Each 4th Lu-25 carried a BrahMos cruise missile loaded with a powerful EMP charge with an effective radius of 30 m. The BrahMos missiles loaded with EMPs were fired first. They were calibrated to explode minding the speed of enemy missiles. The medium range RSD-9 missiles were sent soon after, they were locking on to individual enemy missiles, each plane carried 6 RSDs.

OOC: Pushka, you realise out of 20 ships only four are fully functional, there are some others floating, but they're beyond repairing, unless a massive Naval dockyard suddenly appears on Howland. I thought obliterating the whole CG fleet would have been a bit over-zealous. Its not like 4 Coast Guard ships, heavily burdened with casualties and pretty much outnumbered, are going to pose a threat?
I could probably re-edit and destroy more ships, but do you get my reasoning?

Cotland, in one of my earlier posts I had a Sprunace Class destroyer make morese code (via signalling lights) with your EMP stricken vessel. If you respond to it I could try and e-vac the wounded crewmen or something.

I understand, nvm.

OOC: Hirgy, what about my attack on Howland island? Haw, i got to run, sorry had no change to respond to your 91 missile attack, i'll be back probably tomorrow.

Uhm, you forgot about the attack on your outer picket of Submarines.

OOC: My (2) Dolphin II SSN's are shooting at the outer perimeter. The line of subs you have established 100nm from Baker Island. Both subs fired (8) torpedoes each for a total of (16). At a range of 35 miles (4) Mk.70 and (4) Mk.48 ADCAP's to be exact. My F-91's have dropped (64) Mk.50 torpedoes on your outer perimeter picket. Not the "inner circle" of subs you have decribed.

OOC: Tomorrow on that as well.

OOC: I haven't fired a single missile yet. I am still 1,000s of miles away, well out of detection range for just about everything except a phased array with the power and size of a Nimitz aircraft carrier.

The bombers were aloft, in their small groups, hiding their radar and infrared signatures through the use of their stealth and exhaust dillution systems. Strict radio silence was kept and their mission would get the final "GO" or "NO-GO" in their center consoles, with the authorization numbers. Though the strike had been authorized, ordered, and approved it had not yet been given its final authorization. There was still an abort point some several hours away. The Emperor was hoping that cooler heads would prevail before he would have to authorize the final code, which allowed the bomber crews to fire their missiles, all 4,000+ of them. Their multimode advanced radars were all on, in passive mode, allowing them to detect targets at long ranges but not engage, per say.

Inside Foxtrot 2-1, the flight leader for the second group, the group which would attack the main group at Baker Island, the pilots, all five of them, sat quietly in their seats. They looked out into the black oblivion of space. At 70,000 feet, the speed of sound was 660 miles per hour but they were moving at 450 miles per hour, slow enough to stay cool. At Mach 0.68, the aircraft were quiet, cool, sleek, and menacing.

Foxtrot 2-1 was being piloted by Colonel Mark Curtiss. His other crewmen included co-pilot, Lieutenant Colonel David Henderson; navigator, Major Jack Horner; defensive systems operator, Major Chuck Potter; and offensive systems operator, Major James Wilson. The DSO, Major Potter, kept a close eye on a various panel display, which included three monitors. One of them was entirely the aircraft, the radar waves it emitted, the infrared waves it emitted, and the relatively cross-section, front, top, rear, bottom, and side. Another panel handled all of the jamming, ECM, and expendables that would be released if needed. The third panel was everything else out there, being detected through the RWR, LWR, and various other recievers. The OSO, Major Wilson, had a six panel overlay. He had the radar, both air to air and air to ground, on their own panels, the infrared track and the EO track on their own panels, the target overview on another panel, and the weapons loadout on another. The navigator had a display of all flights, through a datalink as well as the waypoints of his entire flight. The pilot and co-pilot had their own panels and switches galore, after all, they were flying the biggest bomber in the inventory of the Imperial Layartebian military.

The SM-3ERs shot down quite a few missiles, but they kept flying in. Entering the range of the ESSMs, a virtual rain of missiles started pouring out of the VLS cells in the ships. Each VLS cell carried four missiles, packed together in quad-packs due to their small size. The missiles carried a powerful warhead, and flew straight for the target. While the ESSMs also took out quite a few missiles, the missile shower was simply too great for the ESSMs to deal with. They entered the range of the RAMs, which flew out of the ship-borne launchers. No sooner had they fired before the radar-guided gatling guns which were the CIWS started opening up. 25mm and 30mm projectiles slammed into the many incoming missiles, shooting down a lot of them. Still, the sea-skimming Kriegzimmer-built Avenger I missiles tore into the escorts and detonated.

A total of five frigates and two destroyers became new artificial reefs while another three destroyers and a cruiser was badly damaged but still afloat. The arsenal ship was also hit, but the heavy armor around the many VLS cells managed to keep the munitions which hit from detonating the missiles which were left. However, it took out the bridge and CIC of the ship, rendering it useless. Pumps were trying their best to keep the flooding contained, but it was to no avail. The ship sunk with a loss of 70 % of its crew. However, the Cots still had the carrier, the support ships, three frigates, ten destroyers and two cruisers floating. All of them, save three destroyers and a cruiser, were still operational with missiles and ammunition available. The two ammunition ships immediately started flying missile packs over to the ships and reloaded them while the crews of the ships started repairing the damages as best they could.

In the CIC of the carrier, the admiral looked over the transcripts again. It seemed that the ships had stopped hundreds of incoming missiles, and those remaining had been stopped by the escorts sunk. No missile had managed to penetrate the inner defense perimeter. Sure, they had lost a few escorts, but that's what they were there for. If they couldn't lose a few escorts to protect the carrier, what was the escorts there for in the first place?

"Admiral, første fientlige angrep fullført. Vi har mistet 'Ostaøyse', 'Osterøy', 'Gudvangen', 'Kaio', 'Drammen', 'Ormen' og 'Storm'. Ammunisjonsskipene er i ferd med å etterfylle VLS cellene våre. Vi er fullstendig klare til kamp igjen om femten minutter. Inntil da er vi på åtti prosent styrke." [Admiral, first enemy attack completed. We're lost 'Ostaøyse', 'Osterøy', 'Gudvangen', 'Kaio', 'Drammen', 'Ormen' and 'Storm'. The ammunition ships are refilling our VLS cells. We will be fully prepared for combat again in fifteen minutes. Until then, we're at eight percent strength.]

"Takk." [Thank you.]

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Flying low and fast towards Baker Island, the 24 A-5D Vigilantes moved quickly towards while the 12 F-37G Razors flew a bit faster and a bit higher, attracting the attention of the enemy fighters. As they came within 375 nautical miles of the first contact the ME-11C Dagger AWACS from the carrier had detected and transmitted to the fighters via datalink, they locked their AIM-204B Dødsengel missiles and fired one at each target. Each Razor carried four Dødsengels, 6 AIM-217A BVRAAM, 6 AIM-120D AMRAAM and 6 AIM-207A IRIS-Ts, so a total of 48 AIM-204B Dødsengels streaked forward and up, flying fast, high and quietly, being guided in via datalink from the AWACS. They hoped that the missiles inbound would attract attention away from the bombers. A few EA-5F Vigilantes also took off from the carriers and started long-range jamming against all enemy frequencies and contacts.

OOC: I will RP the attack on Baker Island, but Pushka is gone, so it ain't much use, but still.


IC:

From over 100 Miles away the Russian aeroplanes were detected, a veritable armada of death quickly making its way through the clouds towards Baker Island.

The Air Raid Klaxons began to wail through the small town and the 150 people who lived their were in the three shelters deep underground within ten minutes, soldiers from the Defense Forces helping them in.

Ascod vehicles roared about the city, setting themselves up into good positions ready for the imminent attack.

The first SAM Missiles shot off their launchers a few minutes later, shooting up into the sky and dissappearing into the clouds. The small town was now empty, no one was there, the airfield was locked down and the planes in their underground lots.

The MBFC's, Chain Guns, SAM's and AAA now all began to fire in earnest up at the sky. Plumes of smoke could be seen as Russian planes fell barrelling out of the sky. But then missiles began to slam into MBFC's and Chain Gun sites, turning them and their crews into indistingushable hulks.

Many of the Ascod vehicles were targetted, but the counter-missile technology allowed them to simply start their engines and outrun the missiles, although many bought it and sat burning on the beaches and fields and rocky ourcrops around Howland.

The air base had all but been destroyed, the control tower lay in ruins, the abobe ground buildings were collapsing in on themselves and the runway was cratered completely and beyond use. One of the underground lots had also taken a direct hit, destroying 6 Raptor aircraft and their crews.

Finally, when the smoke had lifted and the Russian planes had passed, some of their twisted airframes littering the beaches, low tide areas and fields, the airfield had been destroyed, save for some of the planes in their bunkers, the town had been razed almost to the ground and over 2000 Asod's had been destroyed, along with 225 Huges Chain Guns, 614 Avenger's, 212 Hawk MIM's and 340 MBFC's.

The death toll for the troops was just over 1500 with 450 more being injured.
Somewhere on the island a lone man sat on a broken wardrobe in what used to be his house playing an old violin.

OOC: I am in control of baker island now, it says so in the land division post he made, and please dont reduce the project to rubble, it costs alot of money.

IC:

FORCES OF LAYATEB, COTLAND, HAWDAG (Plus anyone else who is here at the moment)
As of eight hours ago Spizanian military forces assumed control of Baker Project Facilties, Puskhan military forces are now withdrawing, we implore you to accept my offer of a truce inorder that we may bury our dead and repair our remaining vessel. We may discuss longer-term peace terms in a conference to be held in the near future. For now i beg you to halt your attack

Commander Springley Commander Destroyer CSS Indefatigable

OOC: Pushka's gone, thousands of my men are dead, and you sat behind Pushka and sniped at us. Now he's gone your capitualting. I want compensation for these damages.

CVBG 21 - flagship

"Admiral, vi har mottatt en begjæring om våpenhvile. Fra spizanerne, ikke russerne. De har visstnok tatt over Baker-øya etter russerne, som er i ferd med å trekke seg tilbake." [Admiral, we've recieved a request for a cease-fire. From the Spizanians, not the Russians. Apparently, they've taken control over Baker Island from the Russians, who are about to withdraw.]

"Forstått. Vi har dem i vår hule hånd nå. Send tilbake at vi har mottatt beskjeden og at vi vil ikke utføre offensive operasjoner med mindre spizaniske styrker kapitulerer umiddelbart." [Understood. We have them right were we want them. Reply that we've recieved the message and that we will refrain from carrying out offensive operations unless the Spizanian forces capitulate immediately.]

The officer saluted and went to relay the message to the Spizanian commander while the admiral ordered what remained of his battlegroup to carry on towards Baker Island after having marked the position of the sunken ships for later investigation and potential recovery. There was still a Cottish destroyer in distress there, and they needed help urgently.

The bombers were called off just as they were to release their long-range missiles. The fighters moved in to cover the bombers as they headed back to the carrier. The missiles hit home, taking out fourty-something Russian fighters retreating. The last casualties on their side of the war.

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To: CMDR Spigley, CSS Indefatigable
From: CMDR, RCN CVBG 21
Subject: RE: Truce

[BEGIN MESSAGE]

Your message has been recieved and understood. The Cottish demands for cease-fire as follows:

1. Capitulation of Spizanian forces in Baker Island Area of Operations
2. No weapons fired at CVBG 21 assured.
3. Futher talks to be held as CVBG 21 reaches Baker Island.

All there must be met. If not, Cottish engagement will not cease untill Spizanian forces in AO are destroyed.

[END MESSAGE]

OOC: Cotland, you need to respond to my destroyer trying to reach your EMP'd ship?

IC:

COMMONWEALTH OF HIRGIZSTAN

NAVAL COMMAND (NAVCOMAUS), AUSTRALIA

To: Spizanian Government


In light of recent developments Hirgizstanian forces on and around Howland will enter into a ceasefire to begin shortly. Forces approaching Howland and the Pacific Island will continue on their course to Howland to deal with the situation there. They will be ordered into a ceasefire when they near the island.

This ceasefire will only stand as long as Spizanian forces do not move aggressively toward any freindly vessels.

The Hirgizstanian Government has also authorised NAVCOMAUS to make the following demands of Spizania:

1. Complete capitualtion.
2. Removal of forces from Baker Island, which is to be handed over to COH forces as soon as possible.
3. Payment for the repairs and replacement of vessels, property and units damaged or destroyed in fighting in the area.
4. An Internationally visible apology for Spizanian actions.

Failure to comply with these terms will result in an immediate resuming of hostilities in the Pacific.

NAVCOMAUS

-COH-


Advance elements from the fleet approaching Howland had arrived at the small Coast Guard dock in the area and immediately began disgorging sailors and SeaBees to start initial repairs. Corpsmen flooded down the gangwalks and sped off in vehicles flown in from the Carriers still at sea, off to begin the arduous and bloody task of helping the injured, and policing the dead, who would be given hero's funerals in Arlington National Cemetary, Zambia.

Back in Cape Verde, Lusaka, Harare, Llongwe and in every other major city throughout the Commonwealth crowds gathered in town halls and squares and stood still and silent for 2 minutes, remembering the dead in the Pacific, and then rejoicing at the withdrawal and virtual collapse of the Russian Federation.

In the sprawling metropolis that is Hirgizstan City the Hall of the Nation was filled to capacity, with over 600,000 people in the cavarnous main hall, replete with its own atmosphere and towering about every other building in the world. It was a gigantic symbol of the Hirgizstanian people, and tonight it was filled with patriotic citizens, all holding their breath for the Fuhrer to come up on stage in the centre of the huge domed hall.

The people held their breath as the Fuhrer arrived on stage, and they cheered rapturously during breaks in the speech, shouted in an oratorical form to rival the greatest speakers. The speech remembered the fallen, and looked to the future, assuring there would be "endless rivers of blood" if the "memory of our brave men and women in uniform is tarnished by nations of lesser stature." The crowd, at the end, erupted into applause and shouts, and cheering, the combined clapping and patriotic fervour of over 600,000 citizens echoed out across the land.

OOC: I dont remember doing anything aggressive at all until Hawdag torped my ships, and nooone responded to my counterattack, so why should i pay for the puskhan mess? And there nopoint in me surrendering Baker, because thats my countries future.

And for reference, right now the combat forces in the area consist of one destroyer and a couple of hundred marines on baker with some field weapons and SAM batteries.

OOC: That's what siding with the losing party will do for ya. You were on his side, now you'll have to pay for that. BTW, I'm not going to claim anything from you, but I'm not gonna stop Hirgy from claiming anything either. Call it passive support.

The crew of the Standhaftig finally managed to restart the reactor and quickly got power for propulsion back up and running. The electronics started up, but it quickly became clear that there was some serious damage to the electronics. For instance, everything but limited propulsion and electricity for the necessary crew functions such as power to the galleys, lavatories, crew quarters, etc was non-functioning. The Standhaftig did have short-range radio though, so the captain contacted the Hirgizstanian destroyer close to them while the Standhaftig slowly increased to twelve knots, the max the chief engineer dared to bring the ship to and headed for the destroyer.

"Hirgizstanian destroyer, this is HMS Standhaftig. We have managed to restore power, but we're shit outta luck with everything else. Our electronics are fried, and we're able to increase to twelve knots maximum. I request that you escort us out of the battlezone."

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CVBG 21 was moving as quickly as it possibly could, but it still couldn't be at Baker Island untill late in the evening. The ships were still at battlestations, waiting for anything to happen. The fastest ships managed 41 knots, but the battlegroup sailed at 34 knots, the max sustainable by the ammunition ships. The admiral decided that keeping the group together was the wisest move, since he would have to send a few escorts to protect the resupply ships if they were to leave them behind. They were slow, but they would be there eventually.

The Merlin helicopters had the grim task of bringing filled bodybags from the various escorts and over to the carrier, which had sufficient cold storage rooms to preserve the bodies untill after the hostilities had been completed, upon which time they would be buried at sea with full military honors. At the moment, there were 125 dead Cots being brought to the carrier and into a coldroom used for storing food. However, the food had been dispersed to the other cold storage rooms in order to clear space for the dead sailors. They didn't want the sailors to have to eat food which had been in the same freezer as the dead. It was bad for morale.

OOC: But at no point did I side with him, i was merely a joint partner in the project, and was granted joint sovereignty over baker, i was in my own territorial waters when Hawdag attacked me.
And do i have to be at peace with all of you or can i have seperate peaces with the people who arent making demands like that of me.
Plus id be willing to pay to keep Baker Island.

OOC: I remind you of your choice to remain in alliance with Pushka when this whole thing started. That constitutes siding with him in my book.

OOC: I was not and have never been in alliance with Puskha, ever. I was joint runner of the project and the engineers and most of the equipment on baker are spizanian.

250nm from Baker Island

As the Fast Attack Group Dallas pushed on towards Baker a message came across the Intercom that infuriated the Admiral. Pushkian Forces withdrawn was all that was heard before the Admiral abruptly began a tirade.

Admiral: "God damn Russians!! Those bastard's took a cheap shot at Cottish Forces then withdrew when we show up in force? How dare they withdraw. Lives lost,equipment destroyed, all for this? I will not stand for it. Someone must pay!"

The Bridge on the the Hollister was silent as the Admiral continued his rant. A seaman second-class cleared his throat in the back.

Seaman: "Uhm, Admiral we have a message here from Spizanian Forces sir. It says they wish to end hostilities sir and withdraw. They are asking for peace sir."

Admiral: "Of course they are. They wouldn't disengage the disabled Destroyer when asked. WE fired on a preceived threat to our ally in need. I have a message you can send them hold on."

The Admiral pulled out his pen, and scribbled a message on his notepad.

Seaman: "You want me to send this sir?"

Admiral: "Exactly as written."

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Message to Spizanian Forces

We offer the following terms to your forces:

1. Turn off all combat systems on your remaining Destroyer. We will allow you to use this vessel to remove your wounded/dead from the OA if this stipulation is met.

2. All Hawdawg Forces will remain in the area until we deem the situation has de-escalated to an acceptable level.

As acting Fast Attack Group Leader I am not authorized to accept your petition for peace, but I will pass the message on to my superiors. I will forward there response to you when I recieve it. Bear in mind, if your remaining forces so much as spit in our direction we will do our best to leave a hole in the water where Baker Island is currently located.

Signed,

Rear Admiral Joe Hines
FAG Dallas

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Hawdawg DoD
Stockholm, Sweden

As the news of the evaporation of the Russian War Machine spread through the Ministry, heavy hearts soon took hold as the preliminary numbers of sailors lost in the Pacific began to come in. Some (20) vessels were lost with many crewmen never to see families, children, or wives again. An impromptu moment of silence was held for these brave warriors of the Republic. Plans were already being prepared for a memorial day to honor these patriots of the realm.

OOC: You sided with Pushka, Spiz. I have nothing really against you, but since he isn't here, the blame, by default, falls on you. It seems to me that if you had pulled out of your Alliance with Pushka, he would have capitulated, but you did not.
Why is Baker Island so important to you.
I want compensation for what happend out here.
If you agree to an apology, a capitualtion and stand down of your combat forces in the area and monetary compensation then that'll do.

IC:

The lone Sprunace Class destroyer received the message from the battered Norwegian vessel and both ships, travelling painfully slow, began to leave the battle area.

OOC: This thread explains why Baker is so important to me,
How many kills did Puskha inflict? What will it cost to replace the ships you lost?
And as i didnt know anything about him leaving before he did, I thought the war was passing to Europe and that it would be all over and i could get back to the construction,

OOC: 129 dead on the surviving ships + 925 on the sunken ships. Well over 1,000 dead who's families need compensation [2.5M to each family is standard]; 5 frigates [cost about 400M each] and 2 destroyers [1B each] sunk; several ships damaged [costs of about 700M total]. You do the math if you want to pay for it.

Office of the Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

As Prime Minister Wales sat in his office a driving rain soaked the large window behind his desk obscuring the view of downtown Stockholm. The somber weather had put a damper on the day as the final totals of lost sailors and equipment had made it to his desk. In total 3932 brave seamen had paid the ultimate sacrifice in defense of the Realm. More concerning was the loss of the more than $16 Billion Gondors worth of equipment. Time would tell how this skirmish would effect naval policy. Even with the sacrifice of some many the key focal point of the Attack Group had maintained a fully operational state throughout combat. The outer picket of AA ships were sacrificed to defend the readiness of the Carrier. This was in some corners an acceptable risk, but never an easy choice to make. It would certainly cause some shake ups in the procurement department. Prime Minister Wales picked up his phone and summoned his secretary to his office after he finished reading the reports from Admiral Hines.

Prime Minister Wales: "Pen this for me Caroline. This message will be sent to Admiral Hines.

Uhm, (clears throat). Our nation is proud for the bravery your men have shown in the face of enormous odds. We never doubted the resolve or tenacity of FAG Dallas. In the end life must be given to be spared. We will honor and remember those lost not for what they could of done in life, but for what they did in life. May God shine down on you and your forces in the area.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg
"

Caroline have this wired to Admiral Hines immediately.



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Open Letter to Spizanian Government

We formally accept your petition for a peaceful end to this conflict. We however would like your government to understand that you were a "defacto" part of the Russian attack on the Cottish Vessel and by all rights should be held responsible for some form of repirations for damages to both Cotland and Hirgizstan. We will not press for repirations from you as it was determined our vessels acted on a percieved imminent threat to our Cottish ally. We wish no harm to the people of Spizan and wish them a prosperous and fruitful life after this unfortunate incident. We will be maintaining a Task Force off the coast of Baker Island to assist Hirgizstanian entities in repairing the destroyed positions in there areas. We cannot say when this group will leave, but they are to be left alone. Your navy must not come within 10nm of the fleet or they will be destroyed. These items if agreed to, will constitute a renewed peace between our nations.

Signed,

Josey Wales
Prime Minister
Holy Republic of Hawdawg

To The Kingdom of Norway (Cotland)
We hereby transfer to you the sum of seven point two billion US dollars for to pay for the damage caused during the regrettable incident off Baker Island in the last twentty four hours.


To Hawdawg
We accept your terms and hope that this regrettable incident will not cloud any attempt at warmer future relations.

The Emperor sat in his command center, watching the flights of bombers as they made their way into and through the vast Pacific Ocean. "This will be the worst loss of human life ever." He commented to those around. He didn't mean the airstrike either. The bombers in the air flew onward at 450 miles per hour, tearing through the crisp, cold, night air at 70,000 feet. They were still thousands of miles away from their launch points when the Emperor got the dispatch.

FORCES OF LAYATEB, COTLAND, HAWDAG (Plus anyone else who is here at the moment)
As of eight hours ago Spizanian military forces assumed control of Baker Project Facilties, Puskhan military forces are now withdrawing, we implore you to accept my offer of a truce inorder that we may bury our dead and repair our remaining vessel. We may discuss longer-term peace terms in a conference to be held in the near future. For now i beg you to halt your attack

Commander Springley Commander Destroyer CSS Indefatigable

Shockingly he looked down at the dispatch. "Has this been verified?"

"Yes sir it has. Our allies recieved the same telegram. It seems that the government in Moscow has been overthrown."

"How can this be?"

"Sir, news of the war prompted riots of an unprecedented scale. We believe that the Duma is burning right now. Vronej is a madhouse as is Moscow."

"This is true?"

"Sir I would not lie to you."

"Immediately put the air groups into a holding pattern. Direct aerial tankers to move to their loiter points."

"Yes sir."

A few thousand miles away, the orders went through to the bombers. Their screens displayed an authorization code: "FGWK-82SD-92FS-357S-0JMI-2911" and their readouts displayed one, simple message: "Proceed into holding pattern. Temporary hold-off."

At the same time, the Emperor immediately dispatched an all-points bulletin throughout all international channels.

To: Earth nations
Fr: The Empire

The Empire has, in light of the news of the Russian collapse, put an impending aerial strike on hold. The Empire would like to coordinate a possible stand down of all forces over the next twenty-four hours, in response to this. Should our allies continue to be attacked we shall reauthorize the airstrike. We hope that peace can finally be had, at last.

The Emperor

OOC: My losses are as follows:

3 Sprunace Class Destroyers 998
3 Arliegh Burke Class, with one crippled. 870
3 Oliver Hazard Perry Class, two further crippled, but functional. 402
2 Osprey Class 75
1 Cyclone Class 25
1 THAADS Missile Cruiser 220

In total 2660 Coast Guard Personnel.

Family compensation, per person, is charged, typically, at 2.7 Million dollars.

Cost per unit:
Sprunace Class Destroyer: $750 Million
Arleigh Burke AEGIS (Flight IIA): $1 Billion
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: $500 Million
Osprey Class: $150 Million
Cyclone Class: $105 Million
THAADS Missile Cruiser: $2.5 Billion



1200 ASCOD AAMC
740 ASCOD AAGS Wildcat
225 Hughes Chain Gun
614 Avenger
212 HAWK MIM
340 MBFC’s

Costs per Unit:
Avenger: $150,000
HAWK MIM: $45 Million
MBFC: $1.2 Million
Hughes Chain Gun: $560,000
ASCOD AAMC: $1.6 Million
ASCOD AAGS Wildcat: $1.5 Million

1760 Border Defense Personnel.

Family compensation, per person, is charged, typically, at 2.7 Million dollars.

6 F-22A Raptor

Cost per unit:
F-22A Raptor: $250 Million

You do the math Spizania.
If its a big number, installment payment will suffice. Its up to you.

The Spizanian Government hereby wires the Hirgizstan the total of 34.673 billion United States Dollars as reparation for the regrettable incident that occured off Baker Island.

OOC: I have three trillion dollars that Pushka gave me to finish the project, although i might need a new finacial backer to finish ontime. How do you people feel about arcologies aswell?

Since the Empire has lost no life we shall not make any request for restitution. However, the Empire only wishes to know if the situation in the Pacific, moreover Baker Island, is stable enough to return our impending airstrike to our mainland.

OOC: Well it should be

IC:
MESSAGE TO ALL INVOLVED PARTIES
In light of the days incidents we would like to ask if any of the affected nations would like to join the project
MESSAGE ENDS

OOC: What is the project?

The Empire will not take part in finishing this project nor will it seek to impair it. Following this incident, the Empire will be restructuring its foreign policy to once again return to our previous days where our isolationist tendencies were far more outweighing our interventionist.

The Emperor surveyed the situation from his command center. "This is turning out for the better. Call back our bombers. Abort the airstrike."

"Sir?"

"You heard me. This situation doesn't need us to compound it."

"Understood sir."

Within minutes, an encrypted message appeared in the bombers of the flight leaders with another 24 alphanumeric authorization code. Slowly, the massive aerial armada turned back for home, their fighter escorts leading the way, topping off their tanks from the KC-10s and KC-26s airborne.

Following the disruption caused by the brief war, construction was getting back to normal, the island has grown to the comparitevly large size of 110 square kilometres, it would reach its full designed size in a couple months, in the next week alone it would grow by almost 25 square kilometres, with fifty massive forms being filled at one of the dozen floating docks that had been built around the island

Some 50 nautical miles off Baker Island, CVBG 21 maintained its position. Although reduced, it was by no means a weak force. It's survivng ships had been refitted at sea and rearmed, and now stood ready to fight yet again in case anyone tried anything. After the conflict with the now defunct Russian Federation, the Cots had calmed down a notch but still maintained the military presence at Baker. In case of any Spizanian moves which looked like it threatened the battlegroup commander, he had orders to level Baker Island and everyone on it. The constant CAPs by fighters and bombers carrying live munitions near Baker Island ensured the Spizanians that the Cots meant business, even though they never violated Spizanian territorial waters, which were considered to be the normal 12 nautical miles [OOC: correct me if I'm wrong].

Three freighters had joined the massive flow of ships to baker, they were approaching baker in the correct pattern on the correct heading and at the correct speed, but little did they know that the ships was loaded with over five hundred Shockhound I Avengers and eighteen hundred P.746.F missiles, including launchers for them, they would reinforce the garrison of two hundred and fifty marines and supplement their artillery and MANPADS. The Cots would not nottice the equipment, appearing to be normal supplies in the shipping crates being carried into newly constructed buildings that looked innocent but were infact launch silos.

Three freighters had joined the massive flow of ships to baker, they were approaching baker in the correct pattern on the correct heading and at the correct speed, but little did they know that the ships was loaded with over five hundred Shockhound I Avengers and eighteen hundred P.746.F missiles, including launchers for them, they would reinforce the garrison of two hundred and fifty marines and supplement their artillery and MANPADS. The Cots would not nottice the equipment, appearing to be normal supplies in the shipping crates being carried into newly constructed buildings that looked innocent but were infact launch silos.

OOC: A collective WTF goes out to you. What the hell are you doing? If you are trying to escalate this situation again this is a fine way to do it. Remember Cotland, myself, and Hirgizstan all have significant forces within striking distance of this island and can pretty much level it without much trouble. I don't want to blow up your island but threatening overtures will certainly draw heat.

-Hawdawg

OOC: Its a self defence measure, im about to spend five or six trillion dollars on the project and i dont want to loose it without a hell of a fight

"Hør etter! Kampgruppe 21 vil bli avløst i kveld klokken 1730 av kampgruppe Dødsengel. Alt personell skal være klare for inspeksjon av admiralen og honør til påtroppende kampgruppe klokken 1715. Rapporter til din avdelingssjef for nærmere instruksjoner. Takk." [Now hear this. Battlegroup 21 will be relieved by Task Force Dødsengel at 1730 hours. All personell will be ready for the admirals inspection and saluting the relieving battlegroup at 1715 hours. Report to your department head for closer instructions. End.]

It was approaching 1715 hours, and that message had been repeated all over the carrier and the other ships in the battlegroup for the majority of the day. The sailors who weren't on critical duty were dressed in their Class A uniforms and starting to line up along the railings of their respective ships. Officers kept an overview while the NCOs made sure that every man were dressed as if he was to be inspected by His Majesty the King himself. It was spit-shined shoes and full honors in the lines of sailors dressed in the navy uniform with the white scarf and typical pancake hat with a black brim and white top cover that navy sailors wore, NCOs dressed in simple navy dress pants, jackets and shoes with officers hats with a black brim and shade and white cover, equal to the uniforms of the officers with the exception that the NCOs didn't have the ring over their gold rank stripes that the officers had. On the bridge of the carrier, the Admiral stood, dressed in the same manner as all the sailors aboard his battlegroup and those of the approaching Task Force Dødsengel wore: in his Class A uniform.

CVBG 21 was to be relieved after the intense battle action by a relatively new force, consisting of Bombardment Squadron 4, Destroyer Squadron 7 and Frigate Squadron 8. This new force was a bit smaller than a CVBG, but capable of dealing out a lot of pain. It would operate at ~40 nautical miles off, within range of the guns on the battleships.

Task Force Dødsengel

Bombardment Squadron 4
Toryu Flight IIB class BBG: 2
Hiragi Flight IIA CA: 4
Firestorm III class AS: 2
Supply class AOE: 1
Lewis and Clark class T-AKE: 3

SH-86A Merlin: 32
CH-46E Sea Knight: 10


Destroyer Squadron 7
October class DLGN: 1
Indefatigable class DDGN: 5
Infernal class DDKN: 3
Wirgley class AE: 1

SH-86A Merlin: 21
SH-97A Serpent: 2


Frigate Squadron 8
Ruge class FFGN: 4
Mjelde class FF: 4
Supply class AOE: 1

SH-86A Merlin: 8
CH-46D Sea Knight: 2

The ships approached eachother relatively slowly, moving at 16 knots, with sailors lined up facing each other. It was a beautiful sight, and one which was being filmed by civilian newscrews for the evening news. The Baker Incident was still fresh in the mind of the people, who had demanded the blood of the Russian Federation and gotten the disbanding of said nation, something which the government had taken advantage of. It had almost certainly secured Thomas Rothsky a new term in the office of the Prime Minister, and caused a three-day spontanious celebration across the Realm. The goverment stood in higher standing among the people, something the polls had shown, and made the military even more popular. The admiral in command of CVBG 21 was going to be awarded with the War Cross for his service, and the crews of the ships involved would be honorably mentioned and duly rewarded. The names of those dead would be entered in the Hall of the Dead, a large Gothic mountain hall where the thousands of names of those who had died fighting for Cotland over the annals had been carved into the mountain. It was dimly lit by torches, and spanned for kilometers inwards, with battlehonors and captured weapons, flags, banners and artifacts decorating the hall. Tokens of the victories Cotland had enjoyed over the centuries.

Anyway, back to the present. The ships passed, and the sailors saluted eachother while ceremonial cannons were fired in a salute to the arrivals/departees. It was a spectacular sight. The whole ceremony lasted 30 minutes, and was concluded with the ceremonial lowering of the battle flag aboard the carrier and the raising of said flag on the new flagship, the brand new Toryu class battleship Smertebringer. Then, all the ships came around for another pass, but stopped at the middle again. It was time for the more sad part of the ceremony.

On the flightdeck of the carrier, Marines dressed in the all-black parade uniform marched over to No. 3 elevator which was rising, filled with weighted down bodybags draped in the Cottish flag. Four by four, the 80 Marines carried the bodybags over to the railing where the Admiral and captain of the ship stood along with an honor guard of 2 Marines presenting their AG11A1 assault rifles and 3 sailors holding the three flags [Two Cottish national flags and the flag of the Navy], and a trumpeter. The admiral spoke into a speaker which sent his voice hammering all over the ship and to the ships in the two groups of ships via communications. The crews stood at attention, facing the coffins and the Admiral.

"Gud, allmektige Far, vi som tror at din Sønn døde og oppstod for oss, vi ber deg: La dine trofaste tjenere som døde i kamp, i troen på Kristus, din evige Sønn, ved ham få gjenoppstå til den evige glede. Ved Vår Herre Jesus Kristus, Din Sønn ber vi for sjelene til disse tapre menn, disse Dine krigere. Vi overlater disse Dine tapre krigerne til det evige hav, hvor de igjen skal oppstå på den siste dag. For dette ber vi deg, vår Herre, la sjelen til Truls Didriksen, overkvartermester bli tillatt inn i Ditt evige Rike," [God, almighty Father, we who belive in that thy Son died and returned to the living for us, we pray to thee: Let thy faithful servants who died in battle, believing in Christ, Thy eternal Son, that they would be resurrected to the eternal glory. By Our Lord Jesus Christ, Your Son we pray for the souls of these brave men, these Thy warriors. We surrender these Thy brave warroirs to the eternal sea, from which they shall again be resurrected on the last of days. For this we pray to Thee, Our Lord, accept the soul of Truls Didriksen, Chief Petty Officer into Thy eternal Kingdom,]

On this que, the sailors all said a unanimous "amen" as the first of the bodies were surrendered to the sea. The weighted bodybag had been placed on a kind of metal table which was tilted to a 75° angle, allowing the black bodybag to slip down on its final voyage to the ocean floor some 1,000 meters down below, leaving only the flag on the table. The flag was taken by two Marines and folded while the next dead sailor was placed on the table and read his last prayer. The whole ceremony would take several hours, seeing as there were over a thousand bodybags to surrender to the sea. However, after the first prayer, it was shortened to "For dette ber vi deg, vår Herre, la sjelen til [insert name here], [insert rank here] bli tillatt inn i Ditt evige Rike." [For this we pray to Thee, Our Lord, accept the soul of [insert name here], [insert rank here] into Thy eternal Kingdom.] Still, it would take a few hours.

[Three hours later]
The last of the 1,000+ dead had been surrendered to the sea, and now lay in a position roughly 1,100 meters below the surface of the ocean, being covered in the muddy bottom of the Pacific Ocean. The thick rubber bodybags would keep the ocean creatures from eating the bodies, allowing them to decompose and return to nature in peace. Meanwhile, the trumpeter started playing 'Last Post (http://www.diggerhistory.info/sound/lastpost.mid)' in honor of the dead comrades in arms. It was closely followed by a 21-shot salute by seven Marines, firing three shots each in unison. All was done while the rest of the sailors were silent for three minutes in honor of the dead. Finally, the sailors said the Apostles Creed before a destroyer fired its Mk.155 155mm cannon in salute. During all this, the flags of all ships had been lowered to half staff in respect for the dead. Now, the burial was concluded with a final salute from the sailors and the admiral shortly thanking everyone for attending before ordering the sailors to "Tre av!" [Dismissed!].

The sailors did as ordered and returned to their duties while the flags and rifles were returned to their respective places and the flags of the ships returned to full staff. It had been a formal yet emotional ceremony for the sailors, and one which honored the memories of the comrades they had just surrendered to the sea, knowing well that they were safe in the hands of Christ. Almost every sailor were devoted religious, something they were to seek comfort from the horrors they prepared themselves to deal out, recieve and witness. Most where protestants, but there were a few catholics and muslims there too. All safe in the hands of their respective God. And with that, CVBG 21 headed for Norway again, with a port visit planned for Papua New Guinea to deliver the severely wounded to medical transports back to the Realm and to take on supplies for the long journey home. At the same time, Task Force Dødsengel took up position, preparing for the worst.

IC:

Much the same ceremonies were going on off Howland Island.

The remaining Coast Guard ships and an entire Naval Fleet were consuming the bodies of the fallen to the deep, their eternal resting place. Sailors in crisp white uniforms and Coast Guardsmen in blue saluted crisply and with stern expressions. Over 2000 bodies were consumed to the deep in a ceremony lasting over five hours.

As each lot of bodies dissappeared beneath the waves the guns on the almighty Missouri Class battleship shook the mighty pacific and its islands, straight to their foundations. The 25 Inch Guns saluted the fallen in a solemn ceremony.

The Naval Fleet then passed by, one by one, the three surviving Coast Guard ships, each Naval ship presenting its men, saluting as they went by, the surviving wounded Coast Guardsmen watched from wheelchairs and crutches, saluting weakly.

On Howland Island itself a Ceremonial Border Guard was presented as the fallen were, coffin by coffin, loaded onto planes, ready to be flown back for burial in Arlington, as heroes of their country.

As the Fleet passed Howland, the Iowa and Missouri Class Battleships turned their guns toward Baker Island and fired a blank volley.

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OOC: Spiz, do anything remotely threatening and I will utterly destroy you. Be warned.

Baker Island had grown to a size of two hundred and fifty square kilometres, a massive bristling industrial complex, producing massive amounts of aerogel and filling hundreds of forms. The island was now nearly thirty percent complete.

Baker Island had grown to a size of two hundred and fifty square kilometres, a massive bristling industrial complex, producing massive amounts of aerogel and filling hundreds of forms. The island was now nearly thirty percent complete.

OOC: When it is finished let me know so I can adjust your claims listing and your land holding.