NationStates Jolt Archive


21C Argentina (MT, 21st Century)

The Xeno
21-02-2006, 15:00
Army

Soldiers:
101,400 infantry
31,600 marines
32,000 airborne infantry

(Equipment notes: TOTAL/IN USE)
Tanks
M60A3-CM12: 1,500
T-65U: 282
T-80: 100
T-80UD: 750
T-85IIM: 1,500
T-55AGM: 154
T-59II: 500
TAM: 200
AMX 13: 50
SK 105: 100
PT-76(Amphib tank): 180

IFVs/Combat Vehicles
TAM: 105
AMX: 30
BMD-1: 61

APCs
M 113: 1,217
M 113A3: 715
M 113A2: 640
M-5 Semitrack: 105
AML-90 PANHARD: 40
MOWAG HMMWV: 34
BTR-60: 176

Artillery

Towed
155 mm Mk F3 AMX cannon: 20
155 mm VCA-TAM cannon: 15
155 mm CITEFA Models 77/-81 cannon: 100

SP

SAM
SA-12 GLADIATOR: 112
SA-11 GADFLY: 10
SA-10 GRUMBLE: 34
SA-9 GASKIN: 20
ROLAND: 13
Patriot PAC3: 30
Sky Bow III: 45

Anti-ship Missiles
Hyunmoo: 114
SS-N-19 SHIPWRECK: 55
SS-N-25 Switchblade: 76


AAA
35 MM BAM: 11
200 MM: 86
40 mm cannon: 76
30 mm cannon: 150

Recon Helos
OV1 D MOHAWK: 21

Attack Helos
CSH-2: 240
A 109 AUGUSTA: 5

ASW Helos
Ka-25: 120
UH-60J: 110

Transport Helos
UH1H: 48
BELL-212: 6
HUGHES 369/500: 15

Air Force

Fighter
F-14: 112
MIRAGE III: 23
MiG-25: 80
MiG-23: 190
MiG-27: 40
MiG-29SMT: 161

Attack
Su-30KF: 30
Su-30KN: 30
Su-30K3: 40
Su-15: 80
F/A2 Sea Harrier: 24
A4-AR: 36
Super Etendard: 8
PUCARA IA-58: 29

Ground Attack
A-10 Thunderbolt II: 190
AC-130H: 31
AC-130U: 24

Transport
An-124 CONDOR: 20
Il-76 Candid: 25
BOEING-707: 4
C-130: 11
FOKKER F-28: 4
FOKKER F-27: 7
TWIN OTTER: 18
IA 50 II: 3

Tanker
KC-135: 20

Recon
B-707: 2
LEARJET 35 A: 5
IA 50: 2

Trainer
PAMPA IA-63: 13
TUCANO: 27
MENTOR B-45: 29
MS-760: 11

Navy

Cruisers
1144 Orlan: 4
1164 Atlant: 4

Destroyers
DDH Shirane: 4
DDG Kongo: 4
DD Takanami: 4
DD Murasame: 4
KDX-II: 10
1134.2 Berkut-B: 6
1166.1 Gepard: 12
T 42: 1
Almirante Brown [Meko 360]: 4

Corvettes
A 69: 3
Espora [Meko 140]: 6

Frigates
LaFayette: 12
Halifax: 6
Type-122: 5

Submarines
TR 1700: 2
209: 1

Patrol
Avisos ATF Cherokee: 3
ATA Sotoyomo: 1

Fast craft
Lürsen 148: 2

Fast patrol craft
Dabur: 4

Mine Warfare
Mine hunter: 2

Amphibious
LVTP-7-A1: 10
LARC-5: 15
Chung Ho-class [Newport] LST: 20
LSM: 90
The Xeno
21-02-2006, 15:10
Buenos Aires

::On television, a news camera focused in on a pretty little lady standing on a balcony looking out towards The Andes::

"This is Trisha Lagamo with Argentine Now. We have just recieved word that late last night, a pair of policemen from the town of Tecka were found dead at the base of the mountains. Evidence found with them includes a note from famed Chilean druglord Alberto Sanchez warns Argentine police to stay out of the affairs of his organization.

This is as bold a move as has ever been encountered by the drug-running organizations that base themselves along most of Argentina's borders.

President Kirchner has promised stern action in return."
Islamic Arab Nations
21-02-2006, 15:14
the Scandinavian Federation is stronglly against Drugs so you can count on are support in any war Vs. the drug lords and since your army is not as advanced as ares we will send commanders to train your i you would like and we will offer you wepons very cheap.
The Xeno
21-02-2006, 15:19
Reply to Israel,

"We are currently looking into a modernization of our military forces. As it stands, we do not require aid in training. We are however, in need of paramilitary equipment with which to supply our soldiers and police with the ability to fight back against well-armed crime organizations."
Wingarde
21-02-2006, 15:33
OOC: Alps? You must mean the Andes. :p
Islamic Arab Nations
21-02-2006, 15:37
my nation is not isreal it is the Scandinavian Federation and we will send you wepon.
The Xeno
21-02-2006, 16:03
OOC: Alps? You must mean the Andes. :p
OOC: My mind was somewhere else. =/
The Xeno
21-02-2006, 16:05
my nation is not isreal it is the Scandinavian Federation and we will send you wepon.

OOC: I could have sworn there were rules about knowing how to type properly.

IC: What type of weapons are you suggesting?
Geneticon
21-02-2006, 17:01
OOC: There most certainly are rules...

BTW... I am Israel... he is Norway (or Scandinavia sp?).

IC:

Israel is pleased the Argentina is taking action against illegal drug dealing.
The Xeno
21-02-2006, 17:32
IC:

Official Statement
As it stands, Argentina will participate in no arms deal with Norway until they back down from their current aggressive war-mongering.

Also, to Israel we would like to purchase some of your upgraded M60-Sabra version tanks. We will enquire soon.
Naktan
23-02-2006, 17:29
The Republic of France sends its greetings to the Republic of Argentina, and we wish them many years ahead of peaceful cooperation with our peoples.

We also encourage you to join the ALN, which is headed by the USA.

SECRET IC: The CIS is expanding its territories beyond the borders of the Former USSR. We need solidarity on the behalf of all nations to stop this expansion, as it is detrimental to the people of the world.
Sel Appa
23-02-2006, 21:36
Russia extends to Argentina an invitation to join the Commonwealth of Independent States. As part of joining, trade barriers are reduced, mutual protection is guaranteed, and you will be protected from Western Imperialism. Also, we may sell you production rights for some of your requests should you join the CIS.

OOC: All this Alliancing seems like WW1.
The Xeno
23-02-2006, 22:58
Being an ocean away from both France and Russia, it would be unproductive to join military or organizational alliance groups. Argentina appreciates both offers, but it is currently just not feasible.
Naktan
23-02-2006, 23:15
Being an ocean away from both France and Russia, it would be unproductive to join military or organizational alliance groups. Argentina appreciates both offers, but it is currently just not feasible.

[ooc: the ALN is headed by the USA...American League of Nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10478105#post10478105)...]
The Xeno
24-02-2006, 05:24
We are not willing to join a pact at this time.
The Xeno
24-02-2006, 05:41
OOC: Since there is no one playing the following countries, I'm just going to assume these deals go through and arrive within a reasonable amount of time. They're very fair.

IC:
Taiwan
Argentina will be making inqueries to Taiwan for the purchase of 1,500 M60A3-CM12 tanks

South Africa
Inqueries to South Africa for the purchase of 240 Rooivalk CSH-2 helicopters
Naktan
24-02-2006, 16:45
To Argentina:

We are willing to consider the sale of 12 Layette Frigates. We would also encourage Argentina take a more pro-active role in the cessation of hostilities between Brazil and Venezuela. It is almost likely that these aggressive acts may transpire into a South American war [ooc: which Russia might seize upon as an opportunity]. Our garrison in French Guyana will attempt to moderate the action, although we are painfully away from that part of the world that we feel that we would not make much an impact on the actual schematics of the war there.

[There is also a UNSC resolution on the floor to condemn and authorize economic sanctions on the two powers...if you are on the UNSC, please support this]
The Xeno
24-02-2006, 16:58
To Argentina:

We are willing to consider the sale of 12 Layette Frigates. We would also encourage Argentina take a more pro-active role in the cessation of hostilities between Brazil and Venezuela. It is almost likely that these aggressive acts may transpire into a South American war [ooc: which Russia might seize upon as an opportunity]. Our garrison in French Guyana will attempt to moderate the action, although we are painfully away from that part of the world that we feel that we would not make much an impact on the actual schematics of the war there.

[There is also a UNSC resolution on the floor to condemn and authorize economic sanctions on the two powers...if you are on the UNSC, please support this]

As it stands currently, the Argentine military is woefully short of the capabilities to enforce a ceasefire. Which is why we have gone to the French government about the purchase of war machines. We are hoping that you accept our bid for the ships, due to the fact that there is war breaking loose in South America, and in order to put an end to it, we greatly require such ships.
Naktan
25-02-2006, 04:16
As it stands currently, the Argentine military is woefully short of the capabilities to enforce a ceasefire. Which is why we have gone to the French government about the purchase of war machines. We are hoping that you accept our bid for the ships, due to the fact that there is war breaking loose in South America, and in order to put an end to it, we greatly require such ships.

In which case, we will gladly provide the ships, at a reasonable price for them all.

[ooc: i know alot about militaries, but nothing about their economics...]
The Xeno
25-02-2006, 13:53
In which case, we will gladly provide the ships, at a reasonable price for them all.

[ooc: i know alot about militaries, but nothing about their economics...]

We stated originally, our bid was 1.6 billion dollars.

OOC: France wouldn't profit much on that price. Just a couple million dollars per ship. But it's still a profit, Argentina doesn't have a lot of cash to just throw around.
Naktan
25-02-2006, 15:55
We stated originally, our bid was 1.6 billion dollars.

OOC: France wouldn't profit much on that price. Just a couple million dollars per ship. But it's still a profit, Argentina doesn't have a lot of cash to just throw around.

[ooc] quite honestly, I don't care how much the price is...as long as it's reasonable...besides, you can expect that France would be offering these at a discount to developing militaries for the benefit of insuring peace around the world :)]

The Republic of France would like to notify your government that we have officially dropped our support for the G4 nations [specifically for Brazil], in the hopes that Argentina would be willing to fill the place in the G4.
The Xeno
25-02-2006, 16:50
[ooc] quite honestly, I don't care how much the price is...as long as it's reasonable...besides, you can expect that France would be offering these at a discount to developing militaries for the benefit of insuring peace around the world :)]

The Republic of France would like to notify your government that we have officially dropped our support for the G4 nations [specifically for Brazil], in the hopes that Argentina would be willing to fill the place in the G4.

Argentina appreciates the support, and we are willing to take on whatever political role necessary to broker a peace in South America.
The Xeno
25-02-2006, 19:36
Argentina has placed an order with Fairchild Republic Co. to purchase a number of A-10 Thunder Bolt II (Warthog) aircraft. The number is initially 70, with an additional 120 over the next two years. The contract will be for $1.8 billion USD.

Further, Argentina will contract Grumman Co. for 112 F-14 Tomcats. (An estimated 44 were built, but never purchased by the US Navy due to the new F/A-18) for a total of $2.23 billion USD.

As part of a standing contract for M113A3 and M113A2 APCs, Argentina will place another order for an additional 400 of each type, a deal worth around $40 million USD.

With the Ukraine, Argentina will be negotiating the upgrading of Argentina's 36 MiG-29s to MiG-29 SMTs.
The Xeno
28-02-2006, 00:55
Various orders placed with Taiwan, South Korea and the Ukraine.

Secret
With reports from Africa, the Argentine navy is mobilizing.
Clamparapa
28-02-2006, 01:08
We have 100 Yahin Intruder elite forces standing by to assist in the destruction of this druglord and his empire. We have a massive navy. We can sell up to 30 Ohio class submarines at $800,000 USD each, 20 Iowa class battleships at 2,000,000 USD each, 20 Ticonderoga class missile destroyers at $1,000,000 USD each, and 5 Essex class aircraft carriers at $5,000,000 USD each.
The Xeno
28-02-2006, 01:22
We have 100 Yahin Intruder elite forces standing by to assist in the destruction of this druglord and his empire. We have a massive navy. We can sell up to 30 Ohio class submarines at $800,000 USD each, 20 Iowa class battleships at 2,000,000 USD each, 20 Ticonderoga class missile destroyers at $1,000,000 USD each, and 5 Essex class aircraft carriers at $5,000,000 USD each.

OOC: Get this ridiculous crap out of here.
Clamparapa
28-02-2006, 01:38
OOC: ??? I just applied to the 21C thread.
The Xeno
28-02-2006, 03:07
*reserved*
The Xeno
28-02-2006, 03:59
The Argentine 1st Strike Fleet has left Gallegos Naval Base. Their destination is unknown, but they have steamed through the Straits of Magellan.

Argentine 1st Strike Fleet
Cruisers
1144 Orlan: 2

Destroyers
KDX-II: 4
1166.1 Gepard: 4

Frigates
LaFayette: 6
The Xeno
28-02-2006, 13:56
Argentine military on highest alert. Patriot PAC3 and Sky Bow III batteries purchased from Taiwan and RoK are on stand-by. All radars alert.

Gallegos naval base has deployed ASW helocopters as well as submarine-hunting destroyers south to monitor Drake's Passage.

Hyunmoo class SSMs are readied.
Sel Appa
28-02-2006, 20:44
OOC: ??? I just applied to the 21C thread.
You need to be approved by me as well. You can't just apply and start posting. Does one apply for a job and then immediately start working?
Clan Smoke Jaguar
03-03-2006, 03:32
OOC: Just for the record
OOC: I believe Argentina uses a French rifle for its military. I couldn't find out exactly which one, meh so I had them adopt the Daewoo series. It kicks some butt.
Argentina primarily uses the FN FAL (it's actually Belgian, not French). They developed and produced their own rifle in the '80s (the FARA 83), but it was not produced in sufficient numbers to replace the FAL due to financial difficulties.


And I'm curious as to how Argentina can afford to maintain all of this equipment and the men needed to operate and support it, let alone purchase so much more. The increase from a relatively poorly equipped military of only 73,000 to a massive 350,000 man (at least) force with top-of-the-line equipment in abundance in such a short time is a bit beyond belief.
I had some issues with Australian numbers, but these are more than a bit extreme themselves.