NationStates Jolt Archive

[ooc: for a history of the situation, please read (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10463824&posted=1#post10463824)thread]

The Republic of France, taunted and attacked by the bellicose forces of the Kingdom of Norway. Following the recent aggression against the Kingdom of Sweden and the Republic of Finland by the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of France confronted the Norwegian government on the behalf of the EU, hoping to resolve the issue. However, after a dog fight over Swedish skies, French forces have mobilized and are now preparing for further acts of aggression against other EU member nations. We urge the international community to condemn these acts and we hope that the Kingdom of Norway will revert to peace rather than suffer the toils of war.

Seeing as the Kingdom of Norway refuses to acknowledge the crisis at hand, we continue to press the EU, NATO, and the UN to condemn these acts of aggression against Sweden, Finland, and France.

The French Navy centered in Brest has committed to the North Sea for patrols, to check against Norwegian actions. Considering that we do not recognize the seizure of Sweden and Finland, we will continue to patrol Swedish and Finnish skies, as is provided in the mutual defense of EU member states. We furthermore encourage Russia to join the EU in defending against a hostile state.

Israel disagrees. We believe that Norway should be allowed to control its own aggresion (in this case), and that France should not interfere in this matter.

Israel urges France to withdraw from hostilities and keep an eye on their own business, instead of condeming the actions of Norway.

The US calls for Norway to set up elections in Sweden and Finland to see if they want to join this Scandinavian Federation. If the vote is yes than this should be allowed, but if the vote is no then Norwegian Forces should remove themselves from Sweden and Finland. The US calls on France to stop attacking Norway and to wait for these elections. If Norway refuses to hold elections for Sweden and Finland, or if Norway refuses to abide by the results of the elections, then sanctions should be put into place against Norway. The US will be sending two destroyers and about 1000 soldiers as a peacekeeping force in this area. These forces will make sure that France does not invade Norway and that Norway holds elections in Sweden and Finland so they can decide if they want to join the Scandinavian Federation.

we are tired of the US acting as the worlds police and this is between me and france and as far as i remeber the french have never been real fighters and we have held elections in those countrys and they have agreed to join. all we are doing is uniting a culture.

we are tired of the US acting as the worlds police and this is between me and france and as far as i remeber the french have never been real fighters and we have held elections in those countrys and they have agreed to join. all we are doing is uniting a culture.

France stands by its commitment to maintain the integrity of the EU and will not back down from allowing the Norwegian government from maintaining its illegitimate authority over Sweden and Finland.

we are tired of the US acting as the worlds police and this is between me and france and as far as i remeber the french have never been real fighters and we have held elections in those countrys and they have agreed to join. all we are doing is uniting a culture.

this quote clearly shows norway's commitment to peace and logic...while people may call out france's failures" in war, france has a long history of being a military power [especially in the 16th and 17th centuries]. joke about it all that you want...france has a respectable history, and its current history is certainly better than what Norway claims to have now...and uniting cultures...there's norwegian, dannish, swedish, lapp, finnish, urgyr, and something else...there isn't exactly one culture in scandinavia...even the vikings there had divisions in culture...so that last excuse is rather bs, but if the world accepts it...oh well...

The only countries that elected to join were Iceland and Denmark...you invaded Sweden and Finland. While France would minutely accept the elections of those people, you have now drafted the citizens of those nations to join your despicable plot and we cannot allow those nations to remain under your flag either. You must withdraw from Sweden and Finland...and pending their elections, we will judge them to be right, with UN peacekeepers in place to moderate the elections...

And seeing as Norway has committed acts of hostility against France, we suggest you resolve these as well.

The bombers will be arriving in three hours to attack a military installation, unrighteously placed in sovereign Swedish soil by Norway. We would hope that the world community help France end these actions peacefully, while maintaining the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Sweden, Republic of Finland, and the European Union.

Israel is appalled by this violence on the part of France, and asks them to stop bombing Norway immediately.

As Prime Minister Ehud was heard quoting early this morning, "Diplomacy first, violence second."

Israel is appalled by this violence on the part of France, and asks them to stop bombing Norway immediately.

As Prime Minister Ehud was heard quoting early this morning, "Diplomacy first, violence second."

tell that to norway...they've just gotten nuclear bombs...somehow...

IC:
France, US, Israel, and other coalition(sp?) nations, I suggest we set up a time limit before bombing. That means that I'm asking you to withdraw your Bombers France. We will give Norway a certain amount of time to withdraw and If he does not withdraw, then we may use Military Force.
OOC: Also please check out my post on Norway's Board I accidently posted there sorry...

IC:early this morning Scandinavia lanched cruse missles at the french fleet in the north sea destroying most of that fleet.

In response to this attack Greece has activated all branches of the Military and Airforce, we have also armed both of our Submarines in the North Sea. Also deployed to the North Sea were a fleet of ships including a destoryer, two frigates and a landing ship equipped with multiple hovercraft. Be prepared Norway.

we have also taken up all defenive positon on are costs and if the french back us into a corrner we will not stop to use Nucler wepons to protect are nation

The use of Nuclear Weaponry would be unwise. European Union does not tolerate WMDs, let alone their use on any nation. I would suggest you back down Norway.

IC:
France, US, Israel, and other coalition(sp?) nations, I suggest we set up a time limit before bombing. That means that I'm asking you to withdraw your Bombers France. We will give Norway a certain amount of time to withdraw and If he does not withdraw, then we may use Military Force.
OOC: Also please check out my post on Norway's Board I accidently posted there sorry...

This has been going on for a long time, and France needs to retaliate against the uncalled attacks on her navy and her air force. Further, we demand Norway's unconditional recovery of all the states that are currently seized [except for Norway proper]. Furthermore, PM Villepin has submitted to the Hague a war-crimes indiction for the leader of the Kingdom of Norway for violations of national sovereignty, uncalled attacks against European neighbors, and the drafting of non-citizens in order to institute martial order and pose a military threat to the EU. We are still willing to call for diplomatic resolution, but NOrway needs to stop this preemption attacking or France is going to get really angry. [not to mention their claim to acquiring WMD...]

IC:

In response to this attack Greece has activated all branches of the Military and Airforce, we have also armed both of our Submarines in the North Sea. Also deployed to the North Sea were a fleet of ships including a destoryer, two frigates and a landing ship equipped with multiple hovercraft. Be prepared Norway.

The use of Nuclear Weaponry would be unwise. European Union does not tolerate WMDs, let alone their use on any nation. I would suggest you back down Norway.

We support the decision of our Grecian friends, and while we do not wish to decline their offers of support, a greater help would be to gain international pressure against Norway to avoid any further losses.

In reference to the cruise missile attack, that was uncalled for, and while the French managed the majority of the missile attacks, one capital ship was severely damaged while seven others were slightly damaged.

the Scandinavian Airforce retaliated and attacked the french fleat in the north sea and destroyed many of the ships in the fleat. also Scandinavian Ground forces ingaged french forces on the danish border with germany.

[ooc: i laugh at you...France has no significant forces in Germany...therefore, you have just attacked Germany, a larger force than France itself...Your claims of destroyed our fleet are ignored...You are seriously asking for it...]

today at 9:00 when a french bmber was bombing sweden it destroyed a school filled with young children. I have order a military withdraw from the nation of finland in order to protect are holdings in sweden and are allies in denmark and iceland report that there navys were defeated and are moving back to the baltic sea. we have also taken up all defenive positon on are costs and if the french back us into a corrner we will not stop to use Nucler wepons to protect are nation.

The French decline in the bombing of a school; obviously, Norwegian forces were using such a ploy to hide their military forces, using innocent structures to hide their forces, further undercutting their efforts. The French Mediterranean fleet has embarked to replace the North Atlantic Fleet and is attempting to intercept the Dannish and Icelandic fleets. France condemns the attack on Germany, and their ploys to "self-defense" are not legitimate, although their troop withdrawal from Finland is greatly lauded as a first step to accepting the sovereignty of its European neighbors. The use of nuclear weapons will not be tolerated at any moment, seeing as the Norwegian government has no reasonable means to use the weapon [ooc: unless you bs, and then we'll just have to eradicate NOrway as a peaceful country, in the means to destroy a corrupt, terrorizing, regime that explicitly violates its neighbors' peace and security].

If the claims of a school bombing are verified after the conflict is resolved, France wil consider reparations for the damage incurred; it still resides in the Norwegian domain to cease these senseless hostilities and withdraw from all of its holdings.

we have withdrawen from finland so that you could see we are willing to negiote with you and we want to stop the fighting, but sweden, iceland, and denmark will stay mine.

we have withdrawen from finland so that you could see we are willing to negiote with you and we want to stop the fighting, but sweden, iceland, and denmark will stay mine.

Considering that Sweden was also forcefully taken, we cannot accept that. Denmark and Iceland apparently elected to join your confederation, and as that is the voice of those people, we will accept that. So long as the Swedish nation is seized by your people however, we will stand in opposition. We are glad that the Kingdom of Norway is willing to discuss peace on the table rather than send planes, missiles, and fleets out to attack the nations that oppose your move [and even one that didn't explicitly side in the matter].

Therefore, leave Sweden and Finland to their self-determination; pay reparations for the damages incurred on Swedish, Finnish, French, and German properties; and abandon your bellicose ambitions to conquer Scandinavia through force.

If at a later time Sweden and Finland elect to join this confederation, we would assent, but there needs to be a reasonable amount of time to allow the elections to form and likewise to ensure that they are free and unbiased.

IF we return sweden let us keep Denmark and Iceland.

IF we return sweden let us keep Denmark and Iceland.

acceptable...

Israel hopes that this crisis is now at an end, and that both sides willl come to, and adhere to, terms.

acceptable...

President Popolus remarks "I do not see this as an acceptable matter. Obviosly Iceland and Denmark were intimidated into joining his Axis of Evil. Honestly, Norway was threatening with WMDs! Which they probably dont even have. Had he not subjugated Sweden and Finland, they never would have joined.

My Proposal is that before we back down he must rehold elections in those countries and remove any Militant Forces now in said regions."

The Greek Fleet has moved North towards Denmark to prepare for landing as a peacekeeping force.

sweden has been offically returned and we will host elections in there nation. also if you have read the news i, the king of Norway have been granted total power and the greeks will not land in my province of denmark.

sweden has been offically returned and we will host elections in there nation. also if you have read the news i, the king of Norway have been granted total power and the greeks will not land in my province of denmark.


I think that without foreign peacekeeping forces in the region there is a large chance that the votes may be tampered or the people of Denmark will feel too oppressed to vote on their true beliefs.

However without French support on this topic I will be forced to step down seeing as though Greece is a far superior nation to Norway, I will not risk the lives of my people in a large war.

In Addition seeing as Norway has set itself against the European Union I would like to question if Denmark will remove itself? And if they are voting to join your Alliance must they forfeit their EU membership?

OCC: BTW Norway never was a EU Country sorry for that mistake.

they have voted and have agreed to stay and disjoin the EU. just so you know i am not the total leader of that nation i apointed a Prime minister to run that country. even though i can draft soldiers from there and i take taxes from there they do have some ruling power and same goes for iceland.:mad:

I think that without foreign peacekeeping forces in the region there is a large chance that the votes may be tampered or the people of Denmark will feel too oppressed to vote on their true beliefs.

However without French support on this topic I will be forced to step down seeing as though Greece is a far superior nation to Norway, I will not risk the lives of my people in a large war.

In Addition seeing as Norway has set itself against the European Union I would like to question if Denmark will remove itself? And if they are voting to join your Alliance must they forfeit their EU membership?

OCC: BTW Norway never was a EU Country sorry for that mistake.

Norway early on had "elections" in Denmark and Iceland...that was after he invaded Sweden and Finland...until the people in Denmark and Iceland choose to secede from Norway, it is their self-determination

We await the arrival of peacekeeping forces in Sweden and Finland to ensure that the elections are free and fair.

Greece to France:
In a letter from President Papolus to Jaque Chirac:
It is in the interest of all of Europe that we should freeze Norways Financial Holdings and Impose Sanctions on the entire Scandanavian Alliance. Without these sanctions the SA ( from now on I will refer to Norway as the SA or Scandanavian Alliance unless IAN indicates otherwise) will too easily aquire Chemical, Nuclear, and Biological arms or long range missiles.

I beleive it is also necesary for us to create a Branch of Weapon Inspectors (much like UNSCOM in Iraq) to check and make sure that no Dangerous Weapons are being developed. For Greece, these inspectors will substitute for the peacekeeping forces I originally intended to send. I do not think it wise to send troops into such a sensitive area, especially after the SA has expressed that they wish for no troops to land.

Perhaps other Countries ay be interested too, however I suggest that we Keep the US out seeing as this is Europe and there is no need for their presence.
That is all.

Greece to France:
In a letter from President Papolus to Jaque Chirac:
It is in the interest of all of Europe that we should freeze Norways Financial Holdings and Impose Sanctions on the entire Scandanavian Alliance. Without these sanctions the SA ( from now on I will refer to Norway as the SA or Scandanavian Alliance unless IAN indicates otherwise) will too easily aquire Chemical, Nuclear, and Biological arms or long range missiles.

I beleive it is also necesary for us to create a Branch of Weapon Inspectors (much like UNSCOM in Iraq) to check and make sure that no Dangerous Weapons are being developed. For Greece, these inspectors will substitute for the peacekeeping forces I originally intended to send. I do not think it wise to send troops into such a sensitive area, especially after the SA has expressed that they wish for no troops to land.

Perhaps other Countries ay be interested too, however I suggest that we Keep the US out seeing as this is Europe and there is no need for their presence.
That is all.

We agree with the general provisions, but considering that France and Germany [and ironically Norway itself] are members of NATO, the US should at least give moral support. You are right in saying that this is European matter and that we should try to resolve the remainder of this issue as much within our jurisdiction. The proposal to send inspectors is agreeable, seeing as Norway should not have any WMD development programs, and the inspectrors could serve to mediate the issue with Norwegian WMD program and more importantly who helped developed this program or from whom they purchased their weapons. Sanctions by all EU member states are in order to persuade the Norwegian government to drop its nuclear ambitions as well, and France will be joining in this resolution. We will try to persuade Geneva to freeze any extra financial resources to procure their program further.

Note to all who read this post from 21st Century Earth
[B]
THIS THREAD IS NULL AND VOID

IAN is no longer Norway and all the policies that were formerly set up by his corrupt and immoral regime are now void. Norway is once again a peaceful state!