NationStates Jolt Archive

Norway:
News- The president of norway has promised his people to restore glory back to scandinavia and therefore has started a major military build it up. Though norway is small nation it will build a new strong nation there for the senate of norway has granted the president new war time powers to begin mobilization.

OOC: Please try to step up your writing(spelling and grammar).

IC: Russia inquires why Norway would require a military buildup. There does not seem to be a threat to Norway that would require a military buildup.

last night the goverments of sweeden and finland were overthrown by norway backed insurgents and have agreed to turn them self over peacefully to norway. Because of this norway has declared its self the Scandinavian Federation.

OOC: Where is the original sign up thread for the 21C?

n/m.. found it.

OOC: Where is the original sign up thread for the 21C?
In my sig.

OOC: IAN, please make your posts better(grammar and spelling).

IC: Russia has referred Norway to the UN for its unnecessary military buildup.

The US does not think Norway needs to be referred to the UN for military buildup, since many nations are building up their military including Russia and China, but the US is a little questioning about how Sweden and Finland came to be under Norway's control.

OOC: Maybe just explain a little bit more how Norway took control of Sweden and Finland.

The US does not think Norway needs to be referred to the UN for military buildup, since many nations are building up their military including Russia and China, but the US is a little questioning about how Sweden and Finland came to be under Norway's control.

OOC: Maybe just explain a little bit more how Norway took control of Sweden and Finland.
OOC: Yes, please give more detail to how Sweden and Finland were taken over. A more logical thing would be a Scandanavian Federation of Norway, Sweden, Iceland, and Denmark. (I don't think Finland is really that Scandanavian) Feel free to nullify what you previously said and come up with a new plan. (This is a special case for nullification)

i disagree Finland is scandinavian and the to get into detail the way i got sweden and finland is that i place insergents within the nations and funded and equiped them so that they were able to overthrow those goverments most of the isurgents were unhappy Army men who have not been paided in a while

Becuse of Requests from the UN to find out what are intentions are we have been forced to release are current millitary Stats

UN Report:
Army:470,000 soldiers
100,000-ground vechiles crew
370,000-Infantry
Airforce:75,000 Soldiers
7000-Figther Jets 14,000 Piolts
3000-Bombers 12,000 Piolts
10,000-Transport&Helicopters 49,000 piolts
Navy:200,000
10 -Aircraft Carriers 50,000 crew men
30-Frigates 30,000 crew men
20-Submarines 20,000 crew men
10,000-Navy Airforce 50,000 piolts
25-Battleships 50,000 crew men
Total Armed Forces Personal:745,000

The Leader of Scandinavian Federation has just had a press release to say that the nations of Iceland And Denmark have voted to become part of the Federation but the Leader of Scandinavian Federation has made Them Self Ruling Coloneys

As a member of the EU, the Republic of France vehemently decries the recent actions by the Kingdom of Norway to reinstitute an aggressive state, dependent on power politics and the such. We encourage all EU nations to hold fast and oppose the Kingdom of Norway in their expansionist ploys. Furthermore, France may consider sanctions on the Kingdom of Norway if they do not restore their neighbors to their proper status, although a Scandinavian confederation would not be out of order.

[ooc: what the heck is Norway doing in Sweden and Norway? traditionally, Sweden was the greater power then Norway, and likewise the more bellicose. From where does this sudden urge to conquer Scandinavia arise?]

we have gotten all the land we need so the europen union can back down and a war between are to countrys could be costly so i think it would be in all of are best intrests to leave it alone.

we have gotten all the land we need so the europen union can back down and a war between are to countrys could be costly so i think it would be in all of are best intrests to leave it alone.

[ooc i wish germany were here...]

The Kingdom of Norway's excessive grabs of land are not excusable. As a member of the EU, Norway has the obligation to restore the Kingdom of Sweden and the Republic of Finland - both likewise EU member states - or else the EU will be forced to make necessary measures to restore order, up to and including sanctions.

We hope that other EU members echo in our call to restore the Scandinavian nations.

who are you to speak for the entire EU you are one nation FRANCE last time i check the is not the same thing as the EU is it? and as of right now i am droping out of the EU and i refuse to restore those nations. :mad:

The scandinavian Federation has hightened it's security level to war time and has begin the mobilization of 1,000,000 men just in case the europen union attacks though we hope it doews not come to that. The top Marshell in the SF has Just said he has put Soldiers on the border of germany and denmark and has begian water patrols in the north sea and has began air patrols over the captial of oslo and the othe major cities. we have also drafted soldiers from are coloneys of denmark and Iceland.:mp5: :mad:

who are you to speak for the entire EU you are one nation FRANCE last time i check the is not the same thing as the EU is it? and as of right now i am droping out of the EU and i refuse to restore those nations. :mad:


As it stands, Norway is standing in the ways of becoming a hostile neighbor of the EU and furthermore of France. It would be in the best interests to recover the said nations before this gets out of hand...

The scandinavian Federation has hightened it's security level to war time and has begin the mobilization of 1,000,000 men just in case the europen union attacks though we hope it doews not come to that. The top Marshell in the SF has Just said he has put Soldiers on the border of germany and denmark and has begian water patrols in the north sea and has began air patrols over the captial of oslo and the othe major cities. we have also drafted soldiers from are coloneys of denmark and Iceland.:mp5: :mad:

These are clear actions of hostility and the EU will not stand to these aggressive moves.

[BTW, an army of 1mil is practically the entire Norwegian armed forces, granted you might steal some from Sweden, Finland, and Denmark...still France has a total reserve power of 13mil...and Germany has more...not to mention Russia...I'd rethink this before you do commit to military action...]

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.html
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Military Norway Top of Page
Military branches:
Norwegian Army, Royal Norwegian Navy (includes Coastal Rangers and Coast Guard (Kystvakt)), Royal Norwegian Air Force (Kongelige Norske Luftforsvaret, RNoAF), Home Guard
Military service age and obligation:
18 years of age for compulsory military service; 16 years of age in wartime; 17 years of age for male volunteers; 18 years of age for women; 16 years of age for volunteers to the Home Guard; conscript service obligation - 12 months (2004)
Manpower available for military service:
males age 18-49: 1,014,592 (2005 est.)
Manpower fit for military service:
males age 18-49: 827,016 (2005 est.)
Manpower reaching military service age annually:
males: 29,179 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure:
$4,033.5 million (2003)
Military expenditures - percent of GDP:
1.9% (2003)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html
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Military France Top of Page
Military branches:
Army (includes Marines, Foreign Legion, Army Light Aviation), Navy (includes naval air), Air Force (includes Air Defense), National Gendarmerie
Military service age and obligation:
17 years of age with consent for voluntary military service (2001)
Manpower available for military service:
males age 17-49: 13,676,509 (2005 est.)
Manpower fit for military service:
males age 17-49: 11,262,661 (2005 est.)
Manpower reaching military service age annually:
males: 389,204 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure:
$45 billion FY06 (2005)
Military expenditures - percent of GDP:
2.6% FY06 (2005 est.)

===

But on another note, I erred in saying that Norway was an EU member...still, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark are, and invading those nations puts the EU at odds with your nation. So have fun :)]

the Scandinavian Federation has officaly left the EU as of last night we are at war with france becuase they have been to agresive

this is a map of the new Scandinavian Federation.
http://search.netscape.com/ns/img.jsp?img=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.traveleye.com%2Feurope%2Fscandinavia%2Fimages%2Fscandinavia.jpeg&query=scandinavia&page=1&filter=&site=&h=326&siteUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.traveleye.com%2Feurope%2Fscandinavia%2Findex.shtml&thumbUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-partners.google.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3Azj289DqBuHjzMM%3Awww.traveleye.com%2Feurope%2Fscandinavia%2 Fimages%2Fscandinavia.jpeg

last night the people of the Scandinavian Federation enjoyed millitary pirade where the goverment revealed its new nucler wepon. sources within the goverment tell us that the wepons were not made in the country and that they were bought but the goverment will not say where. they did say these are just defecive wepons and they do not want to have to use them.

OOC: Please work on your spelling.

last night the people of the Scandinavian Federation enjoyed millitary pirade where the goverment revealed its new nucler wepon. sources within the goverment tell us that the wepons were not made in the country and that they were bought but the goverment will not say where. they did say these are just defecive wepons and they do not want to have to use them.

now that is bs...not only do you violate the sovereignty of sweden and finland, you now violate the NPT...this will not pass...

OOC: Please work on your spelling.

[ooc:i second that]

ooc: I have not yet been officially accepted so If I dont get accepted disregard this post.

ic:
Private Message to France: Greece offers you support in your Counter offensive movement against Norway. We have an Elite Infrantry Squadron ready for rapid deployment at moments notice. (E.T.A. Parachute Special Forces).


Now Live from Athens, Greece:
Karolos Papoulias addresses the public.

"People of the Hellenic Republic of Greece,
Here we stand newly wed into the European Union, a great Marriage of Nations! Now Norway stands against the European Union. Norway has paid terrorists and other miscreants to attack the Governments of other respectable countries! By no way will this dishonorable bloodshed stand!
This unprovoked attack must be contained! I offer the Government of France our support and with Prime Minister Karamanlis' permission under EMERGENCY conditions, I have activated two regiments of our strongest forces."

Private Message to Norway:
Step down now, we have moved submarines into your region. You cannot risk a war. You will lose.
Remove yourslef from the Nations which you have unjustly conquered and allow peace keeping forces to inhabit the region or else.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert press conference:

Reporter: "What is Israel's standing on the France and Norway crisis?"

Ehud: "We are displeased with the way everything has taken place. Both sides are at fault to a degree, and we are right now trying to get both nations to back down. This could end up in a blood bath, which the world does not need right now, considering the Cuban crisis is also taking place. This could propel a third world war, and Israel is in a bad position if this is true.

We will not side with either country now, although we are willing to listen to the arguments of both. Thank you and goodnight."


Message to US
From Israel:

This new development has us alarmed, what is the Bush administartion's view on the France/Norway crisis?

today at 9:00 when a french bmber was bombing sweden it destroyed a school filled with young children. I have order a military withdraw from the nation of finland in order to protect are holdings in sweden and are allies in denmark and iceland report that there navys were defeated and are moving back to the baltic sea. we have also taken up all defenive positon on are costs and if the french back us into a corrner we will not stop to use Nucler wepons to protect are nation.

ooc: Please guys lets post at one thread this is so damn confusing!!!! Its so dumb to say your attacking the same person on like three different threads or watever.. just use the Norway vs France one..

OOC: WTF...! If this is based on RL Norway, then you sir are WAY off. First of all, Norway is a constitutional monarchy. It does not have a president, it has the King as its head of state, and the Prime Minister as the head of government. Second of all, RL Norway is a very peaceful nation and is appalled by nuclear weapons. Thirdly, Norway has a population of 4.6 million people in RL. Hence, a military of almost a million men is completely unacceptable if you're playing after RL conditions, and you haven't even considered logistics. Fourthly, I'm wondering how you're going to manage to squeeze in 20,000 aircraft in Norway. 85 ships I can accept. Unless you've increased the world by a factor of 10, that amount of aircraft is impossible. Fifthly, work on your spelling. You sound like a n00b.

If this isn't supposed to be based on RL, something I doubt as you're using the EU, NATO and so on and so forth, then ignore my statement. Just felt I should point this out, being a Norwegian in RL.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert press conference:

Reporter: "What is Israel's standing on the France and Norway crisis?"

Ehud: "We are displeased with the way everything has taken place. Both sides are at fault to a degree, and we are right now trying to get both nations to back down. This could end up in a blood bath, which the world does not need right now, considering the Cuban crisis is also taking place. This could propel a third world war, and Israel is in a bad position if this is true.

We will not side with either country now, although we are willing to listen to the arguments of both. Thank you and goodnight."


Message to US
From Israel:

This new development has us alarmed, what is the Bush administartion's view on the France/Norway crisis?

We stand by the Israeli position, and sincerely and respectfully request that your nation offer to mediate the situation.

OOC: WTF...! If this is based on RL Norway, then you sir are WAY off. First of all, Norway is a constitutional monarchy. It does not have a president, it has the King as its head of state, and the Prime Minister as the head of government. Second of all, RL Norway is a very peaceful nation and is appalled by nuclear weapons. Thirdly, Norway has a population of 4.6 million people in RL. Hence, a military of almost a million men is completely unacceptable if you're playing after RL conditions, and you haven't even considered logistics. Fourthly, I'm wondering how you're going to manage to squeeze in 20,000 aircraft in Norway. 85 ships I can accept. Unless you've increased the world by a factor of 10, that amount of aircraft is impossible. Fifthly, work on your spelling. You sound like a n00b.

If this isn't supposed to be based on RL, something I doubt as you're using the EU, NATO and so on and so forth, then ignore my statement. Just felt I should point this out, being a Norwegian in RL.

[ooc: talk some sense into him!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!]

well this is a new norway the old one for got its culture and we chganged goverments at the begining of the game and becuse of all that is going on here me the king has been granted total power. once agian we want peace.

OOC: Good luck getting that through with the Norwegian people. Knowing them correctly (and I'm one of them), they'd revolt against you and instate a new government. You're going to have to RP massive internal turmoil and following problems both economically, diplomatically and militarily if this is to have the least bit of realism in it. The drafted soldiers are highly unlikely to obey if you order them to fire on their own people. One more thing. This whole one-ruler thing has to be against the constitution, and that in itself should have gotten the dictator arrested/killed in the first place.

OOC: Good luck getting that through with the Norwegian people. Knowing them correctly (and I'm one of them), they'd revolt against you and instate a new government. You're going to have to RP massive internal turmoil and following problems both economically, diplomatically and militarily if this is to have the least bit of realism in it. The drafted soldiers are highly unlikely to obey if you order them to fire on their own people. One more thing. This whole one-ruler thing has to be against the constitution, and that in itself should have gotten the dictator arrested/killed in the first place.

I sincerely wish that IAN would simply drop its authority over Norway, because he's taking his nation out of order, out of position, and out of reason. But granted that he's at least willing to negotiate, I doubt that he would be frowned upon by the mod...although if he continues this nonsense, it might be reasonable in the future...

well this is a new norway the old one for got its culture and we chganged goverments at the begining of the game and becuse of all that is going on here me the king has been granted total power. once agian we want peace.

OOC: You don't just "forget a culture" overnight, nor do you switch from a democracy to a absolute monarchy "overnight" either. Attempting to do so would cause, like Cotland said, would generate great civil unrest inside your nation.

Furthermore, 20,000 planes is hardly able to be supported from a defense budget like that of Norways. My actual nation of Velkya on NS has less than that, and it's defense budget is six times that of the entire United States' annual budget. Also, how are you able to support a fleet of 25 battleships and 10 carriers when such a fleet and airforce would cost tens of billions of dollars to maintain, tens of billions you don't have to spend.