NationStates Jolt Archive


Why Democracy when you have Dictatorship?

Guffingford
17-02-2006, 19:04
IC:
An Introduction on Paper...

Dictatorship versus Democracy. A doomed struggle where the do-gooders always fail. Yes we see the opposite in movies around the world daily, where the good guys defeat the nasty villains. The script, plot and intrigues are always the same. Bad thing happens, things go downhill for the good guys, idea from a bright mind (who gets killed later on by the supreme villain) and the good guys do battle until the last bad guy - and always the most evil one - is defeated and the good folks cheer in glory and excitement.

None of this true my friends. We, from the Guffingfordian Political Bureau of Progressive Thinking & Enactment conclude dictatorship reigns supreme. What good is a democracy when the people are too ignorant to vote on the right person? Well, when you force them to vote on the right candidate, it isn't democracy anymore. You have dictatorship, synonym for effective leadership. No matter where you look, here, there everywhere, dictatorships are effective. Which is why this cunning plan has been produced by us.

We believe dictatorships are destined to dominate the people thru intimidation, welfare and force. What good is power when you bargain everything away in endless sessions of old people sassing each other off with all sorts of political correct dialogue? It's pointless. Strong decisions come from strong, bright minds who dare to declare themselves a patriot - and a dictator willing to rule his people with a benevolent and caring iron fist.

It does not even matter if you are a communist or an Apartheid regime such as Guffingford. We believe differences should be set aside, and to focus on a common enemy of your people: democrats. They do not dare to kill with weapons of war; they are far to weak and frail for that. Nay, they try to maim and hurt us with words. Although they think it is a successful way to subdue enemies, it does not. Have words hurt Guffingford? Never.
And this is why Guffingford starts the Mutual Dictatorship Aid Program ©, an initiative by several pro-government groups, us and possibly, you? Are you willing to serve your people justice, honesty and honorable leadership? Powerful with the true meaning of power? I'd like to think so.

Some Notes...

This is not an alliance. This is something like the Red Cross, first aid for dictatorships who are under direct attack from democratic regimes who want to topple a rightful dictatorship. This initiative will be put into function once we reach at least 12 signatory nations.
Aid can come in various shapes and forms. Military aid (weapons, ammunition) or direct military aid such as soldiers. Economic is possible, logistical, healthcare, education... The sky's the limit.
To promote dictatorship around the world. Through small financial means and minor investments in the right parties (left or right; as long as they are willing to fight for a dictatorship) we will guide you to a new era of political stability. It is a shame the democrats never allow debate and discussion about this subject; our projects are all underground. We are not ashamed of this. We are proud to support dictatorships around the world.
When you make an appeal for aid, please consider we review appeals on a specific basis. Each case is different. Do not request specific aid, your wishes will be fulfilled in our way - our goal is secure the dictatorship first. What good is money when your people are dying of thirst? We prioritize, then we send aid.
The MDAP does not seek to benefit signatory nations. We seek to aid outsiders, not insiders. If you wish to help yourself, and help others first. It's a matter of giving and taking. Corporations and political parties are welcome to appeal for aid as well.Endnotes...

The MDAP is unique in this world. We seek to secure dictatorship and to provide our civilians with the best possible ways of leadership. You choose democracy, you have chosen poorly. Want to know what true power is? Choose dictatorship. You will not be disappointed.

Guffingfordian Political Bureau of Progressive Thinking & Enactment
Chairman,
- Alexander Durant
Guffingford
17-02-2006, 19:18
OOC: All sorts. The MDAP wants dictatorship around the world, and if nations with different political ideologies have like-minded governments, talking out differences is a lot easier for all parties involved. The MDAP supports dictatorship as a whole, we aren't against particular types of dictatorship. When a dictator or oligarchy finds it necessary to kill or commit genocide*, we cannot and will not stop it. That's a domestic problem they'll have to deal with. The MDAP is not a peace keeping organisation. There is not a leader or a secretary, this is an initiative.

Hope this helps!

*you cannot make an omelet without breaking some eggs.

SIGNATORY NATIONS (9):
- Guffingford
- Estovakia
- Risban
- West Corinthia
- Jagada
- Pschycotic Pschycos
- Zolony
- Trinitron Tower
- The Helghan Empire
Estovakia
17-02-2006, 19:19
Message from the Estovakian government

The Stovakian Peninsula has seen many, many wars. Wars of beliefs, wars of religion, wars of conquest. Now democracies, these "lovers of freedom", have instead enslaved many people under the grips of false ideals, of freedom to speak when it leads to violence, freedom to assemble when it leads to riots and terrorism, freedom to elect old rabble and bandits.

These "peaceful" people, have contrary to their image, only seeked to destablize the region and bring more war, more pain. We are now on the verge of a peninsular war, not unlike the Balkans. We are thus no fan of democracies, and we support your mission fully. Ask what you need of us, and we will do the best to provide it.

Sincerely,

Imperator Maxamillius
Risban
17-02-2006, 20:21
Proclamation from the Grand Imperium

The Grand Imperium of Risban believes fully in its motto, Autocracy and Freedom. We realize that a dictatorship is the only way for a government to truly prosper and remain strong, whilst we also realize that the People should not pay the price in civil liberties. As most democracies we know of lead to wars between various political parties or the ignoring of the People and various issues due to personal agendas, we hope to halt the spread of such a useless institution as common "Democracy" and let the world know that every great empire in history was built through Dictatorship.

As such, Emperor Robinson Antares Scorpius of the Grand Imperium of Risban has granted me permission to sign this initiative for Risban.

Imperium et Libertas!

~Alexander Perkins~
-Imperial High Minister for Foreign Afairs-
West Corinthia
17-02-2006, 21:10
Statement from West Corinthia
We are overjoyed to hear of such a group as MDAP. West Corinthia was established out of a corrupt Democratic bureaucracy. Our great leader, Czar Vasili Kotov, realized the only way to make West Corinthia a powerful and respected nation was to proclaim himself Czar. West Corinthia has grown in power every year as a result. Because of our own experiences with the success dictatorship brings, I have been given authority to sign on behalf of West Corinthia.
Signed,
Aleksandr Demorovich, Head of Diplomacy, West Corinthia
Jagada
17-02-2006, 21:44
Offical Imperial Statement

An interesting proposal Guffingford. The Trinity Empire, however, is not technically a dictatorship so much as a 'Dictatorshiop in Transition'. We are changing to a Meritocracy, which will basically be a more 'mertiable dictatorship', it will require a council of the countries smartest and more capable men to elect a new Lord Protector once Lord Protector Franco York summons them.

We are interested to join, but must say we will be democratic at the dictatorship levels via the Merit Council. So will such a thing get in the way of our membership? If not, then we shall gladly agree.

Signed,
Quinn Peter
Secretary of Foreign Affairs
The Beltway
17-02-2006, 22:48
To Alexander Durant, Chairman, Guffingfordian Political Bureau of Progressive Thinking & Enactment -

We wholeheartedly condemn this proposal, and attach a critique of your arguments against democracy and in favor of dictatorship.



What good is a democracy? A democracy is good because it governs through the consent of the people. It therefore ensures the ability to remove bad government and to convince citizens to obey the laws passed by the government, as democracies can (and do) vote out poor leadership and pass laws that the people, having elected their leaders, consent to follow. In dictatorships, neither of these are possible without force, and neither is guaranteed.

You have dictatorship, synonym for effective leadership. Dictatorships are rarely effectively led; they tend to be rife with corruption and are unstable, due to the lack of popular consent and the constant jockeying for power and position among potential successors to the current dictator. As Lord Acton put it, All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority.

Strong decisions come from strong, bright minds who dare to declare themselves a patriot - and a dictator willing to rule his people with a benevolent and caring iron fist. Wise laws come from compromise, popular support, and consent of the people. Democracies pass laws that have popular backing, and therefore are enforced with less pain. Dictatorships pass laws by fiat, and therefore make all angry. Even the most benevolent and caring dictatorship will receive less popular support, due to the lack of political rights, than a democracy. In fact, benevolent dictatorships, which offer all rights save political rights, may be even worse; citizens are likely to question why they are denied political rights, yet seen as responsible enough to be granted all other rights.

They do not dare to kill with weapons of war; they are far to[o] weak and frail for that. Nay, they try to maim and hurt us with words. Diplomacy is not a sign of weakness, but of strength, as it is a means to force other nations to compromise on their national interests without having to resort to warfare. Further, 'words,' as you call diplomacy, are more effective than the use of 'weapons of war' at getting one's way. In the words of an old Dutch proverb, The pen is mightier than the sword.


Signed,
Office of the Prime Minister, Provisional Federal Parliamentary Republic of The Beltway
Pschycotic Pschycos
17-02-2006, 23:01
We of the Imperial Shogunate, as a military dictatorship that has lasted nearly 500 years in peace, are overjoyed to see this form, and wish to join it to help other dictatorships, and possibly protect them from "liberators" and "free'ers", and any other things that may befall them.

Sincerely and in Good Faith,

Shogun Himura Kenshin
Kanami
18-02-2006, 01:08
Truly sad, the way so many are falling back into dictatorship and tyrany. Kanami will continue to spread it's words of Democracy, to oppose your words of dictatorship.
Polliok
18-02-2006, 01:20
Why, when we have all the power we need with a democracy, do we later turn to dictatorship? If you say it is to gain more power and that you will be a gentle and caring dictator, I won't have it. I may be like a dictator in some of my views, but I am assured that my citizens have more rights then yours do.
Signed,
Kenmore Helshire
Ruler of Polliok
Kilani
18-02-2006, 01:25
A Message from the Ministry of Interior Affairs, Kilani

This ideas are counter-revolutionary and simply allow for the capitalist swine to oppress the workers even further. We reject your ideas. Long live the revolution!
Polliok
18-02-2006, 01:29
Here here!!!
The Scandinvans
18-02-2006, 01:30
OOC: Are monarchy’s allegeable?
Polliok
18-02-2006, 01:31
From my understanding of a monarchy, yes.
Guffingford
18-02-2006, 11:11
OOC: Polliok, I appreciate your enthousiam but next time don't clog threads with posts that do not belong here. Monarchies are allowed, as long as they're absolute and/or authoritarian. A parliamentary monarchy should look for someplace else to suit their needs.

IC:
Official Letter from the MDAP

Greetings,

We are thrilled to welcome the willing nations to our most humble initiative. It pleases us to see like minded nations out there, who, regardless of cultural and political differences, wish to look towards a greater good and bring the world under dictatorship. Stable, prosperous and strong. Words we cherish, words we hold dear. However, we also have a proverb: success brings enemies. An obscure nation called 'The Beltway' already tried to prove this plan - and therefore Guffingford - wrong, but failed. Like all democracies do one way or another.

We anxiously await new signatory nations to join a just cause for the betterment of mankind.
Yurka
18-02-2006, 12:11
Message from The Eternal Empire of Yurka
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/Kutulmak/Yurka.jpg

The Empire of Yurka would be more than thrilled to join this group, in the hopes that it will further the goals of all progressive governments involved. Together we are stronger than if we were apart, and free from the burden of the sometimes foolish masses, our efficiency will get any job done. Heres to a beneficial and helpful partnership between all members involved.
Southeastasia
19-02-2006, 13:52
OOC: Is your nation Guff, run by an authoritarian right-wing regime?
Zolony
19-02-2006, 14:23
IC:
An Introduction on Paper...

Dictatorship versus Democracy. A doomed struggle where the do-gooders always fail. Yes we see the opposite in movies around the world daily, where the good guys defeat the nasty villains. The script, plot and intrigues are always the same. Bad thing happens, things go downhill for the good guys, idea from a bright mind (who gets killed later on by the supreme villain) and the good guys do battle until the last bad guy - and always the most evil one - is defeated and the good folks cheer in glory and excitement.

None of this true my friends. We, from the Guffingfordian Political Bureau of Progressive Thinking & Enactment conclude dictatorship reigns supreme. What good is a democracy when the people are too ignorant to vote on the right person? Well, when you force them to vote on the right candidate, it isn't democracy anymore. You have dictatorship, synonym for effective leadership. No matter where you look, here, there everywhere, dictatorships are effective. Which is why this cunning plan has been produced by us.

We believe dictatorships are destined to dominate the people thru intimidation, welfare and force. What good is power when you bargain everything away in endless sessions of old people sassing each other off with all sorts of political correct dialogue? It's pointless. Strong decisions come from strong, bright minds who dare to declare themselves a patriot - and a dictator willing to rule his people with a benevolent and caring iron fist.

It does not even matter if you are a communist or an Apartheid regime such as Guffingford. We believe differences should be set aside, and to focus on a common enemy of your people: democrats. They do not dare to kill with weapons of war; they are far to weak and frail for that. Nay, they try to maim and hurt us with words. Although they think it is a successful way to subdue enemies, it does not. Have words hurt Guffingford? Never.
And this is why Guffingford starts the Mutual Dictatorship Aid Program ©, an initiative by several pro-government groups, us and possibly, you? Are you willing to serve your people justice, honesty and honorable leadership? Powerful with the true meaning of power? I'd like to think so.

Some Notes...

This is not an alliance. This is something like the Red Cross, first aid for dictatorships who are under direct attack from democratic regimes who want to topple a rightful dictatorship. This initiative will be put into function once we reach at least 12 signatory nations.
Aid can come in various shapes and forms. Military aid (weapons, ammunition) or direct military aid such as soldiers. Economic is possible, logistical, healthcare, education... The sky's the limit.
To promote dictatorship around the world. Through small financial means and minor investments in the right parties (left or right; as long as they are willing to fight for a dictatorship) we will guide you to a new era of political stability. It is a shame the democrats never allow debate and discussion about this subject; our projects are all underground. We are not ashamed of this. We are proud to support dictatorships around the world.
When you make an appeal for aid, please consider we review appeals on a specific basis. Each case is different. Do not request specific aid, your wishes will be fulfilled in our way - our goal is secure the dictatorship first. What good is money when your people are dying of thirst? We prioritize, then we send aid.
The MDAP does not seek to benefit signatory nations. We seek to aid outsiders, not insiders. If you wish to help yourself, and help others first. It's a matter of giving and taking. Corporations and political parties are welcome to appeal for aid as well.Endnotes...

The MDAP is unique in this world. We seek to secure dictatorship and to provide our civilians with the best possible ways of leadership. You choose democracy, you have chosen poorly. Want to know what true power is? Choose dictatorship. You will not be disappointed.

Guffingfordian Political Bureau of Progressive Thinking & Enactment
Chairman,
- Alexander DurantThe Theocratic Dictatorship of Zolony would like to sign. We are currently under attack by a Marxist state, and would like assistance.
Pschycotic Pschycos
19-02-2006, 15:32
In good faith, we'll give you a billion dollars to do with as you wish.
Guffingford
19-02-2006, 15:56
OOC: Is your nation Guff, run by an authoritarian right-wing regime?Definitely. If you know the Apartheid regime, you know how Guffingford is governed. With a small touch of national socialism.
Trinitron Tower
19-02-2006, 16:04
You idea is starting to sound good to me.

Too much crap that comes with voting, there's too much *****ing of what the goverment is supposed to and not to do is starting to get on my nerves.

So, sign me up!
The Helghan Empire
19-02-2006, 16:04
OOC: You do PMT/FT right? Or is this not important to the MDAP?
The Beltway
20-02-2006, 20:35
To Guffingford -
How have you disproven the critique submitted? Please explain how a democracy is worse than a dictatorship.
-Edmund Walsh School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University, The Beltway