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Japanese State of Affairs
Official Report to Germany and Italy
-CLASSIFIED EYES ONLY-

Japanese Imperial Military

Japanese Army:
1,180,000 men, 172,000 active
850x Type 97 Chi-Ha Medium Tanks
2,000x Type 89 Chi-Ro Medium Tanks
1,550x Type 94 Te-Ke Tankettes
1,000x Type 97 Te-Ke Tankettes
100x Type 95 Ha-Go Light Tanks
14 Active Divisions, 80 Reserve Divisions

Conscription notices issued in all Imperial territories. We hope to bring the military up to 2 million fighting men by next summer. Mass Distribution of the new Type 99 Rifle has begun, we hope to re-equip most if not all of our regulars with this excellent design. Construction of armoured vehicles and tanks has been cut back temporarily. 10 Divisions are operating in Manchukuo, 2 in Korea and 2 on the Mainland.


Japanese Army Air Service:
33,000 Personnel
1,600x Aircraft
86 Air Companies

50 Air Companies deployed in Manchukuo, 20 Air Companies deployed in Japanese mainland, 16 Air Companies deployed in Korea.


Japanese Navy:
5x Carriers
10x Battleships
18x Heavy Cruisers
17x Light Cruisers
62x Destroyers
63x Submarines
38x Midget Submarines
2,337x Merchant Ships

Several carriers have been laid down. Numerous 'Midget' Submarines, Merchant Ships and Destroyers have been laid down as well. A number of 'false' destroyers have also been laid down in reports to disguise the allocation of extra steel for the construction of the new Yamato class Battleship. We hope to have the massive ship commissioned within two to three years. Military fleet is stationed at various points in the Japanese Pacific Rim territories, centered around Manchukuo and the Japanese mainland.


Japanese Naval Air Service:
31,000 Personnel
1,500x Aircraft
68 Air Companies

Recent successful test flights of the A6M1 Type 0 Prototype plane has led the Navy to increased funding to Mitsubishi for the project. We hope to have at least a dozen of the new A6M2 Type 0 Model 11 Prototypes ready for actual combat trials by August next year. Mitsubishi is very optimistic about this particular model, and so are we.


Japanese Political Sitaution

Prime Minister Noboyuki is expected to lose his position in the coming months, as the well known Mitsumasa shall be fighting him for the position. The Emperor himself is said to have shown mild interest in seeing Mitsumasa placed in office, but this is as of yet unconfirmed. As always, we fully support our allies in Italy and Germany.

Emperor Zhang Jinghui of the Great Manchu Empire believes that the social and economic systems the Japanese have introduced, particularly in the area of education, are going well with the locals. It is believed that chinese resistance in Manchukuo will die down soon, making it easier for us to utilize the region's massive number of resources in our quest for a Unified East Asia.

OOC: I hope no one minds Mexico using British weapons instead of American. I found a site which had a lot of detail on British weapons of WW1 so I am using this over my past American site I had.

The Federated States of Mexico
Released Document to League of Nations on November 30, 1937

Ground Forces [Armal]
Basic Fittings
Full soldier suit, colored a variation of medium and dark green. Helmet and field knife. Bayonett on all Standard Infantry Rifles. Two stick grenades per Standard Infantry, a single Stick Grenade for Support Infantry. Support Infantry run in groups of three, one holding the actual gun and the others the ammo and kits. All three have Standard Secondary Handguns, Webley Revolver Mark 6 (.445 caliber). Standard Infantry, Marksmen, and Heavy Support all have the same Secondary Handgun. All soldiers are given a small flashlight with a battery time of 30 minutes. Heavy Support Infantry have no grenades and runs in groups of five, of which two have field knifes and all have Secondary Handguns. There are ten people in every artillery team, all are armed with Standrard Rifles and Secondary Handguns and a single Stickgrenade.

135,000 Standard Infantry
-One Man
-SMLE Standard Rifle (Later Known as No 1 MkIII)
7,000 Auxilary Infantry
-One Man
-9mm Maschinenpistole (MP) 18, I. (Schmeisser) [German]
12,000 Support Infantry
-Three Men
-One .303 Caliber Lewis Light Machine Gun [American]
5,000 Heavy Support Infantry
-Five Men
-One .303 Vickers Heavy Machine Gun (British) [Three Men]
-One 3 inch Stokes Mortar (British) [Two Men]
2,000 Artillery Infantry
-Twenty Men
-One 84mm 18-Pounder Field Gun (British) [Twelve Men]
-Two Wheel-Modified 9.45 Heavy Mortar (British) [Eight Men]
560 Fieldsman Two-Person Trucks w/ Rear Beds [Spanish]
-Placed in Covered Dahsboard Dig are two Secondary Handguns

[b]Seaway Forces [Federative Fleet]
Three Light Destroyers [American]
Two Medium Destroyers [Spanish]
Eleven Torpedo Boats [Spanish]

Air Forces [Air Force]
None, some fly-over biplanes from American and Canadian manufacturers, siezed by government during depression for defencive coastal patrols. Not armed although some designs can have machine guns placed above pilot, just above the propeller line easily installed.

Total Men in the Federated Armed Forces: 810,000

Population of entire Mexican Federation: 12,340,000 [OOC: My Estimate]

Economy: Below Average
Civil Rights: Average
Political Freedoms: Excellant
Stablity: 81% (Most Agression Against Current Political Powers)
Telecommunications: 34% (Majority not Supported in Yucatan or Baja)
Infrastructure: 10% (Majority not Supported in Yucatan, Baja, or Technocine)

Capital: Mexico City
Political Parties (In Order of Power): Federated Progressive Group of Mexico (Majority), Absolute Capitalist Movement, Libertarian Federated Movement, Freedom for All Party of Mexico.
Current Party Status in Government:
-Federated Progressive Group of Mexico [83%]
"Nationalism, Expansion, Supremacy"
-Absolute Capitalist Movement [15%]
"Liberty, Growth, Freedom"
-Libertarian Federated Movement [2%]
"Freedom, Liberty, and Justice"
-Freedom for All Party of Mexico [0%] (Mostly an Unreconized Minority)
"No Government, Just the People"

Political Situation:
Massive authoritarian changes in the Federated Progressive Group with leader and current President Antonio Marique leading the change, causing for more state-owned buisness and less left-winged views to be allowed. Although the majority of Mexico is with Marique and his promise of "A progressive and powerful Mexico" some still are against him, yet fear revolt due to the massive armed forces which are heavily trained, dispite their little numbers.

The economic despression hitting Mexico and most of the world has caused a resent uproar in support for the Absolute Capitalist Movement, which would ban all government-owned buisnesses and would allow companies and buisnesses to expand beyond government regulation, allowing a complete jump from the depression in an economic powerhouse. Few Mexicans relize, however, that payment will drop and so would work conditions.

The state of the Yucatan being seperate in culture and political activeness than the rest of Mexico plague the stablization of the country. The majority of those living (some ten thousand people) are heavily for the Freedom for All Party of Mexico, which although unreconized, is gaining verbal support. Mostly a "Justly Given Anarchy" party, it demands a confederacy where the nations involved (the fourteen Mexican states) are all extreme libertarianists and no military is present.

In the Yucatan, the few educated are part of the reconized Libertarian Party which pushes for the Yucatan to be a protectorate of Mexico.

Republic of Turkey

Army: 194,000 men, arranged into divisions of 10,000 men each, 19 divisions altogether, with a 4,000 man reserve pool
Navy: 2 Battlecruisers
Destroyers: 3
Submarines: 6
Cruisers (older, built in 1903): 2
Minelayer: 1
Air Force: 370 aircraft, 8,500 men
Population: 25,000,000

Reasons for possibly entering the war: the Turkish still harbor territorial ambitions, especially after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Turks also feel a natural distrust toward the Greeks and Russians

What Really Happened: both sides, Allies and Axis, offered incentives, and punishments if Turkey was to join one side or another. Turkey was cowed into doing nothing, but declared war at the end in order to get inot the U.N

Eire (Ireland)

Army (Including Naval and Air):

Ground Troops:
65,000 Ready, 35,000 Reserves

Sea Forces:
3 small patrol boats (Ten men crews)

Airforce:
5-10 B-17s
10-15 P-38s

President: Douglas Hyde
Taoiseach (prime minister): Eamon de Valera

OOC: Acceptable?

The Union of South Africa

Ground Forces
The main uniform is a khaki uniform with a Mk1 helmet. The main ground troops carries the Lee-Enfield rifle. While the officers carries a Enfield revolver. Some of the men carry Bren, Sten, and .50 caliber machine gun. All men carry two No 1 Grenades. In the supplies they carry rations, shovel, bayonet, ammo, etc. The main force is divided into three divisions.

South African 1st Infantry Division

I South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Duke of Edinburgh's Own Rifles
1st Royal Natal Carabineers
1st Transvaal Scottish
II South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Cape Town Highlanders
1st Natal Mounted Rifles
1st/2nd Field Force Battalion
III South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Imperial Light Horse
1st Rand Light Infantry
1st Royal Durban Light Infantry
3rd South African Armoured Car Reconnaissance Regiment
One Machine Gun Batallion, consisting of:
B Company, Die Middellandse Regiment
Regiment President Steyn
Field Artillery Regiments:
1st Field Regiment, Cape Field Artillery, South African Artillery
4th Field Regiment, South African Artillery
7th Field Regiment, South African Artillery
1st Light Anti-aircraft Regiment, South African Artillery
1st Anti-tank Regiment, South African Artillery


South African 2nd Infantry Division

III South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Imperial Light Horse
1st Rand Light Infantry
1st Royal Durban Light Infantry
IV South African Infantry Brigade:
2nd Royal Durban Light Infantry
The Kaffrarian Rifles
Umvoti Mounted Rifles
VI South African Infantry Brigade:
1st South African Police
2nd South African Police
2nd Transvaal Scottish
7th South African Reconnaissance Battalion
Machine Gun Unit:
Die Middellandse Regiment
Field Artillery Regiments:
1st Field Regiment, Cape Field Artillery, South African Artillery
2nd Field Regiment, Natal Field Artillery, South African Artillery
3rd Field Regiment, Transvaal Horse Artillery, South African Artillery
2nd Light Anti-aircraft Regiment, South African Artillery
2nd Anti-tank Regiment, South African Artillery

South African 3rd Infantry Division (Home Division)

South African 6th Armoured Division

Total Man Force: 120,000

Seaway Forces
6 Battleships
4 Medium Destroyers
10 Cruisers
2 Submarines
1 Aircraft Carrier
100,000 Navy men

Air Forces
2 Wings
200 bombers
1,000 planes
31,000 pilots

Total men in Military: 251,000
Population: 24,500,700

South African Political Sitaution

James Barry Munnik Hertzog the head of the Union Party is divided to declare war on Germany. Many in South Africa know that the Union Party is sympathised with Nazi Germany. All the Afrikaners of the country want England to leave them alone.

Many people believe that James Hertzog is sending secert messages to Germany and Japan. Most of this are rumors.

News Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10453065&posted=1#post10453065)!

The Turkish government has issued a preliminary draft of 250,000 men. Many of these men will be veterans of WW1 who will guard instillations to free up existing units, or if they volunteer, may join line units. Turkey is also interested in buying military eqipment especially aircraft

(OOC: Well, gotta try and get something going...)

To: Britain, France and their Allies
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

It has come to our attention that on this day,
our friend and ally Germany has launched a full-
scale attack on the sovereign nation of Poland.
France and Britain seem to have made it clear
that any attacks upon Poland would be met with
a declaration of war.

The Anti-Comintern Pact of 1936 does not speci-
-fy that the only attack the Empire of Japan is
bound to aid against is from Soviet Russia. As
such, we have decided to inform you that for
the time being, we will avoid going to war with
the Western Nations if Germany comes into con-
-flict with you.

As a gesture of goodwill, we shall pull two of our
carriers out of the Pacific Rim and north to Manc-
-hukuo, where they shall defend our territory. Rest
assured that your holdings in East Asia are not
under threat by our forces. We do not wish to
go to war with those who brought us into the
modern age.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki


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To: The Federated States of Mexico
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

Our intelligence has informed me that you have
come into a bit of trouble with rebellious ele-
-ments in your society. This...Yucatana free-
-dom movement that threatens the balanced
order of things. It must be difficult, trying
to fight off such an army without external aid.

I have taken a great deal of interest in your
government as of late, I believe that we could
come to a quite profitable relationship. As one
friend to another, let me remind you that it is
folly to stand alone in times such as these. An
attempted secession could just be the beginning.

With a proper World Power behind you, you may
be able to restore a bit of grace and dignity to a
nation that was once powerful. That is why I
am writing to you today. A New World Order is
in the making. You have a chance to stand at
the head, ruler of all the Americas. I speak not
of the United States, whose might is currently
too great for any current power to stand up to.

I speak of South America, which was once rich
in the civilization of the Incas and the Aztecs.
As the Germans attempt to unify the European
continent under an enlightened rule, so too do
the Japanese people struggle to bring the divi-
-ne presence of our Emperor to East Asia. Now,
you have a chance to unify your lands.

It begins here, you have a choice. This anarch-
-ist rebellion could tear your Federation apart.
Your army is weakened, your navy is pathetic. I
believe you have no air forces worth mentioning.
What you have is resources and population, now
you just need the determination to use them.

If you want to make the name of Mexico feared
amongst the Americas once more, you will first
need to stop this revolt. I have spoken with
General Takahashi and Admiral Yamamoto. Both
agree that they could transport a sizable number
of Japanese troops to Mexico within a few weeks
at most. With the aid of a few trained and combat
tested divisions on your side, it would surely be a
simple task to put down this rebellion.

I do admit that I come to you because I believe
you would be a valuable ally for Japan. Your raw
materials and manufacturing capability combined
with the Japanese spirit and numbers could toget-
-her form a powerful alliance, possibly even strong
enough to stand up to the Soviet Union or the US.

Greatness awaits those who seek it, Presidente.
Are you strong enough to seize your chance while
it is available? Only time will tell.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki

To: Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo
From: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City
Your request to aid my country seems to have come at the best moment pos-
-sible. In the event of further war with any of our states, I gladly pledge full
support for the Japanese Empire, as I hope you do to the Mexican Federation.

As to the acceptance of the Japanese Troops, I would gladly hand them over
to my generals to further train our own troops and for their use in back-line
training, as I doubt you would want your men fighting an other nation's fight
this early in our relations together.

As per my forces, I am currently using handmedown rifles and arms, which
seem to be fair enough to fight any battle, yet aircraft and vessels of fine
combat ability seem to be evading my treasury's eyes. Possibly a transaction
can be made. I have under my belt fine designers and freethinkers which
would be glad to take Japanese designs of ships and make them more efficant
and capable for ship-to-ship combat, and better yet, to attack a fleet before
seeing them.

In return, I am now discovering the Gulf of Mexico's capabilities in oil re-
-sources which I believe that your Empire just may need on the incoming battles.
I too have a dream of unifying the hispanic race in the Americas, and
to do that I do require a large boost in naval technology, expecially against
Gran Colombia and Panama, who have American aid in technology.

Let our missions be successful, mi amigo.

Presidente Antonio Marique

Turkey has issued the "advancement of society" the plan calls for the creation of 500 new factories as well as the upgrading of 500 more. many of these factories will be set to work producing guns, tanks, planes and ammunition. 2 of the divisions of newly made recruits finished creation and stood guard in Istanbul. another 250,000 men were drafted. The Turkish government also called again for any surplus from any nations that see fit to supply us

Bulgarian border: 3 divisions
Greek Border: 2 divisions
Russian border: 5 divisions
Syrian border: 5 divisions
Istanbul: 2 divisions
Ankara: 3 divisions (still being made)
Divisions being created: 48

To: Presidente Antonia Marique, Mexico
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

I think your designers will find our ships quite a challenge.
The Imperial Japanese Navy has produced some of the
finest ships to ever sail the sea. However, I'm sure we
can supply you with a few of our older models, most of
which are considered unsuitable for the Empire's needs.
Your designers should have no trouble upgrading and
redesigning them to meet whatever needs your have.
I'm afraid our Aircraft Carriers are out of bounds, but I
can probably supply you with some destroyers, perhaps
a few cruisers and maybe even one of our older Battleships.

In the department of aviation, we have an excess of
land-based aircraft that see almost no action anymore.
They aren't particularly advanced, but against the primi-
-tive militaries of South America, they should be more than
enough to tide you over until you can begin building a
proper and independent air force.

I have just been informed that the 17th Mot. Infantry Division
can be pulled out of Manchukuo on command. They are veteran
and have an outstanding record on the field of battle. Do not
worry about Japanese needs, we have another nine divisions
available.

The Americans, French and Brits have been less than reasonable
in my trade agreements with them. They severely overcharge
us for the import of Oil, which we cannot easily access in the Rim.
If you were able to make available to us a continual supply of Oil,
I guarantee you will find yourself with everything you need to set
yourself up as a proper power. I will speak with Herr Hitler
of Germany, we have had good relations in the past and he may
be willing to spare some forces to aid you as well.

Let me know what you need. Admiral Yamamoto is already prep-
-ared to organize a fleet and the 17th Division is on its way to
the naval bases of Manchukuo, where it can be loaded onto a
sufficient number of transport ships for the journey.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki

To: Prime Minister Matsumama, Tokyo
From: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City

This agreement seems just fine, a continual supply of oil, unprocessed, to
your country in return for your infantry division and vessels agreed.

As towards anything else that the Mexican Armed Forces may need would be
the eventual use of armored weapons, tanks, for our proud cavalry charge
onto dwendling enemies in open fields who are retreating. Such capabilities
would add to our nationalism and self-pride. Besides that, I believe that my
capabilities, as well as your resources, have benefitted quite well to this
agreement.

May our paths cross on the olive branch once again in the near future.

Presidente Antonio Marique

To: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

Though many in the IJA would say otherwise, I am not
afraid to admit that Japanese vehicular technology is
severely lacking compared to the other Great Powers.
Even our best model, the Type 97 Chi-Ha, is no real match
for an american Sherman. I will speak to Herr Hitler and
Mussolini, they may be better able to assist.

Yamamoto has assembled a medium-sized fleet, which will
transport the 17th Division to Mexico. The fleet will be
primarily composed of older craft, so that some ships can be
left behind for you to use once the agreement is concrete.
I will also be sending the Hiryu (http://www.combinedfleet.com/hiryu01.jpg), who will
transport three air companies of fighters, two air companies
of bombers and an air company of reconnaissance craft for
you to use in your goals. The personnel for these ships
and aircraft will remain with them in order to properly
instruct your military in their use.

Details on the fleet and which ships we intend to offer you
will be sent once it departs from the Yellow Sea. May this
be the start of a long and prosporous relationship.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki

To:Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo
From: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City
It is agreed, and per agreement, the transactions of your personnel and my
resources will be fully upheld.


A new change, although rather secret to even the Mexican people, was that a planned change in funds was ordered and passed in the majority-controlled Legislature.

The new change cut the improvements on telecommunications on the citizen's ability nearly in half, and in return, the funds were redirected to the infrastructural improvement fund which was now consentrating on roads, runways, ports, and, dispite its heavy red tape to going into the ocean, oil drilling facilities. These infrastructural changes may cause a dent in the nation's ability to survive natural disasters as many homes, which are built and repared by the government, may in fact not be considered "valuable" enough to use such funds. One could only fear the threat of hurricanes.

Diplomatic Messages from the Third Reich issued today;

To - Marshall Rydz Smygly, Poland

We hereby issue a formal demand for the return of the Danzig corridor to the Reich. The population of this once great city is nearly wholly German, and we can no longer stand by and see these ethnic brothers languish under Polish oppression. The wants and needs of these peoples can best be met by being under the rule and protection of the Third Reich and the Fuhrer. We have no desire for war but we will not rule out any consequences unless our demands are met.

To - Premier Daladier, French Republic

Whilst we understand the honour of the French Republic is at stake considering her promises to Poland (already made before this RP time frame) we must stress that Germany needs and requires a free hand on its eastern borders. The issue at stake, namely the Polish oppression of the German Danzigers, is a wholly Polish-German affair and need not concern the French people or their interests. The failure of the Polish government to respond to our overtures is symptomatic of their attitude to Germany, and cannot be ignored.

To - Prime Minister Chamberlain, Great Britain

We understand the British guarentees towards Poland but must stress that affairs on continental Europe have always been historically outside the interest of the British. The Fuhrer is prepared to place a personal guarentee that Germany will not attack Britain or any piece of the British Empire if Germany is given a free hand in continental Europe. The Fuhrer has a great fondness and respect for Britain and her people and has no wish for Polish or French attitudes to drag our two great nations to war with each other.

To - His Highness Emporer Hirohito, the Japanese Empire of the Sun

Your Highness, we note with great interest your attitude toward Mexico and would like to encourage your activities there. We would like to come to an informal arrangement with you and try to outline some spheres of interest for our nations. We would like to agree that we will currently concentrate on European expansion whilst the Japanese Empire concentrates on Chinese and Pacific expansion. Japanese pressure on the USA would keep them out of any future European conflict, and German diplomatic pressure on the USSR would stop them becoming involved in any Asain conflict. We hope you are in agreement with these proposals.

To - Il Duce Benito Mussolini, Italy

We would appreciate if you could inform us of any future plans or needs so that our two great nations can go forward together.

To - Generalissimo Stalin, USSR

Whilst our nations have not enjpoyed friendly relations in the past, the Fuhrer sees that our nations share a similiar hatred of the western democratic nations and would like to come to an agreement with the Soviet government. This agreement will be threefold;

1 - Trade agreements concerning heavy industry, oil and foodstuffs
2 - A free hand in Finland for the USSR in return for a free hand in Poland for Germany
3 - A non aggression pact
4 - Institution of a "spheres of influence" agreement, in which Germany takes interests in Europe (except for Poland and the Bessarabia province of Rumania) and the USSR takes interests in the Middle East.

We hope to hear from you concerning these proposals.

To: Adolf Hilter
From: Prime Minister James Barry Munnik Hertzog

We have stated that we are going to stay neutral. Our party full supports your cause. We are soon going to break of from England. Many of the Afrikaners support my ideas and we are joining the axis. We will led a campaign against England in Africa. Also tell your friend Japan we are sending a Regiment to fight in Mexico.

To: Adolf Hilter
From: Prime Minister James Barry Munnik Hertzog

We have stated that we are going to stay neutral. Our party full supports your cause. We are soon going to break of from England. Many of the Afrikaners support my ideas and we are joining the axis. We will led a campaign against England in Africa. Also tell your friend Japan we are sending a Regiment to fight in Mexico.

We thank you for your support Prime Minister Hertzog, but at this time it is not our intention to got to war with the UK

Prime Minister James Barry Munnik Hertzog has declared the Union of South Africa. They are no longer a Dominion of Great Britain. Prime Minister James Hertzog has put Cape Colony and KwaZulu-Natal under his control and put military troops on guard there. Pretoria is the offical capital of South Africa while Cape Town and Bloemfontein are the legislative and judicial capitals.

(OOC: Since I'm responsible for controlling Hitler, I'll throw up a combined response to Hitler and information on the status of the Polish Military in a little bit.)

To: Fuhrer Hitler, Germany
From: His Highness Emperor Hirohito, Tokyo

The decision to become involved in Mexican affairs
was that of Prime Minister Mitsumama, and I shall
convey the news of German enthusiasm to him. We
hope to avoid a war with Russia if possible, at least
until the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere is
complete. The United States seems to be avoiding
war at all costs, we can only hope that their isolat-
-ionism will be their downfall.

I have become rather busy in recent days, and as
such all telegrams regarding strategy and political
decisions shall be forwarded from my office to Prime
Minister Mitsumama. I would like to wish you luck
and the favour of the divine powers in your quest
for the unification of Europe.

With Respect,
Emperor Hirohito


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The Yellow Sea, Manchukuo
1400 Hours Local Time

Admiral Chuichi Nagumo glowered at the view before him. The Prime Minister was obviously insane, sending such a large fleet to Mexico. If the Americans felt threatened, he doubted they would sit idly by and wait for the Japanese fleet to reach Mexico. Even worse, nearly two thirds of his combat-capable ships were to be turned over to the Mexican Navy, where his crews would train them in the operation of such ships. He felt indignant at best, they should have given away a few of those useless carriers, Yamamoto was a fool to trust in carrier-based air power.

He glanced at the fleet of transport ships, loading themselves with infantry and the ocassional armoured halftrack for the Mechanized Regiments. Half a dozen escorts were already in the sea, including his personal flagship: the Heavy Cruiser Mogami. Shortly the transports would depart the sea, with the escorts taking position around the fleet to watch for submarines. Not long after, they would meet another taskforce, including that worthless carrier Hiryu. He glanced down at the report, which detailed the ships that would be taking part in the operation.

Fifteen destroyers, three light cruisers, two heavy cruisers, six fleet submarines, plus the battleship Hiei, the carrier Hiryu and her full complement of aircraft. For some insane reason command had ordered her to fill up with 54 land-based aircraft. As if carriers weren't bad enough, now she would be practically useless if a fight broke out. Command had tried to reassure him by reminding him that Hiryu would still have 17 A65 Type 96 Carrier Fighters onboard, but he knew that two air companies of fighters would be insufficient to fend off any kind of air or submarine assault.

"Admiral!" Lieutenant Commander Nakijama said to him. "The General says all of his transports are full, they are ready to move out."

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To: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

The fleet has departed from the Yellow Sea.
Estimated Time of Arrival: 18 days.

The following elements of the fleet are to be turned over
or lent to the Mexican Army/Navy:

13,000 men of the 17th Infantry Division.
100x Type 1 Ho-Ha Halftracks
24x Type 97 Chi-Ha Medium Tanks
60x Type 97 Te-Ke Tankettes

Kongo-class Battleship Hiei
Fubuki-class Destroyers Miyuki, Sagiri, Oboro, Akebono,
Usugomo, Asagiri
Mutsuki-class Destroyers Fumizuki, Uzuki, Mochizuki,
Yayoi
Yubari-class Light Cruiser Yubari
Furutaka-class Heavy Cruiser Kako
Type KD5-class Submarine I-165

9x Mitsubishi Ki-46 Type 100 Command Reconnaissance Aircraft
18x Mitsubishi G3M Type 96 Land-Based Attack Aircraft
27x Nakajima Ki-27 Type 97 Fighter Aircraft

The crew of these ships and aircraft will remain to help train
your military in their use, after which they shall return to the
remaining ships of the fleet and depart for the Pacific Rim,
where their services are needed. The 17th Infantry Division
shall remain in Japan until further notice, helping to train Me-
-xico's army and (if necessary) fight its enemies. Lieutenant
General Takahashi has agreed to cooperate with your chain
of command, and hopes to bring your army back to strength.

I hope you can hold back this anarchist movement until help
arrives.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki


To: Prime Minister James Barry Munnik Hertzog, Pretoria
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

We hear you have recently declared yourself independant of
British rule. As a nation who was once held under the control
of the Western Powers, I would like to congratulate you and
wish you luck in holding your independence. If the United Kin-
-gdom and the Commonwealth declares war on Germany for her
liberation of the Danzig corridor, we hope you will consider fig-
-hting alongside us.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki

Ollieland please respond to my TG, soon, I'll send another one

To: Prime Minister Mitsumama, Tokyo
From: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City
This is grand to ehar, mi amigo, as the war with the rebels is nears it peak
and eventual victory within the month, I believe. It is funny how such small
minded persons think they can rule, expecially under those as rightious as
ourselves.

The fleet and armored divisons will be taken and of course will not be combat
used until a Mexican crew is fully trained with the equippment to Japanese
standards, which I believe should be the best of both our worlds.

Your air support will not be used until well after the Civil Conflict, of which
I plan on using the aircraft as a pride factor to display my changing nation.
Maybe that is a good way to get the Mexican people's name known in hispanic
America, si?

Thank you, mi amigo, for all your work and cooperation with my troubles, and
I hope I have aided you in your own, and hope to continue our relations even
after this transfer of services.

-Presidente Marique

The Taoiseach, worried about the event taking place events to the east, sent a message to Prime Minister Chamberlain of Britain:

To Prime Minister Chamberlain
From Taoiseach Eamon de Valera

I am aware that our two nations have had some conflicts in the past, but in times of strife sophisticated nations will prevail. We here to your west aare afraid that what happened to Poland may happen to us. Some also say that if it is not by Germans than it will be by Englishmen. We feel that a state of Emergency is not enough to keep our nation safe. We look to the east and north for help if ever there be need for it. Will your men be there?

Signed
Taoiseach Eamon de Valera
President Douglas Hyde


To Furhur Adolf Hitler
From Seán Russell, IRA Chief of Staff

We know of your invasion into Poland. We also know of the fact that England and France have said that they will wage war for the invasion. If these poor excuses for men do as they say then we will share a common enemy. If this is the case then we will pledge our support to your cause as if the you do for us three things:
1. Provide us more weapons and other supplies
2. Provide us with any inteligence that you find relevant to our cause
3. Allow us liberty when the war is won
If you wish then I am willing to meet to negotiate these requirements.

Signed,
Seán Russell, IRA Chief of Staff

Balkan war thread. put anything about wars in balkans here. I made a surprise move
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10469803#post10469803

The III South African Infantry Brigade, 1st Field Regiment Cape Field Artillery South African Artillery, and a brigade armoured were near the border of South Africa and Bechuanaland Protectorate. They were going to take this land from the British scum. The leader of this group was Jan Smuts. In this force was about twenty tanks. In the wee hours Jan Smuts ordered to attack and take the capital city Gaborone.

go here, they have plenty of army strength
http://members.tripod.com/~marcin_w/index-2.html

To: Presidente Antonio Marique, Mexico City
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

We are glad to hear that you are pleased, and we hope that
you put our forces to good use. You will find that our forces
will be harsh in training your own soldiers, but it is for their own
good. A disciplined military is a powerful military, and the 17th
will make sure that your army becomes one of the best.

We wait anxiously for the stability of Mexico to return, it is t-
-ime we broke away from American oil and looked to a more
reliable ally such as yourself. For now, most of our attention
shall be focused on our vassal of Manchukuo and the creation
of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. Still, we will
lend what aid we can to the Mexican people. Rest assured
that Herr Hitler has informed us that he fully supports the in-
-clusion of Mexico into our plans for a unified world under the
rule of the superior nations.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki

ooc: who will rp the defense of Bechuanaland Protectorate?

France thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....0#post10470190

Quote: "To - Premier Daladier, French Republic

Whilst we understand the honour of the French Republic is at stake considering her promises to Poland (already made before this RP time frame) we must stress that Germany needs and requires a free hand on its eastern borders. The issue at stake, namely the Polish oppression of the German Danzigers, is a wholly Polish-German affair and need not concern the French people or their interests. The failure of the Polish government to respond to our overtures is symptomatic of their attitude to Germany, and cannot be ignored." -[from Germany]

In response to this, Prime Minister Reynaud and Premier Daladier have agreed to reassert their defensive alliances with Poland and the UK which were created merely to protect all of the countries mentioned. Poland and France are friends and at peace, just as Germany is and should be. There are better ways to solve differences and problems than by warfare and France calls out to Hitler to consider this. Germany has offered no incentive or excuse for France to cancel its binding pact with Poland and so the alliance shall remain. France warns Germany to back down from any rash actions.

*************************************

The French government warns Japan to not attack its colonies as France has no qualms with that nation. In addition, Italy and Ireland are asked to not partake in the aggressive moves of Germany.

***************************************

A portion speech to the French people in Paris today by Premier Daladier:

"My fellow Frenchmen, the hour may be near when all of you are called upon to serve your nation and put all of your energies into making sure that your nation remains great and not bullied around by rogue nations willing to risk all just to further their own petty ends. The government has joined me in unison in doing all that we can to maintain peace, but even that may not be enough. In the case that hostilities may break out, and I pray they do not, the government will call up many men and ask all of you to contribute what you can. The military will protect you. We have strong armies and our own people and allies are mighty, we will prevail. In preparation for possible hostilities, the government has ordered all reserves to stand at ready. In addition, 430,000 men are being called up to report within the week. Factories are ordered to start extra work on military products such as fighters, tanks, steel, and rubber. All colonies are called onto alert and conscripts are being formed there. Thank you."

(OOC: The role of defending the protectorate would normally fall to the British, but they don't seem to be active. If they haven't made a post before I go to bed in a few hours, I'll probably remove them from the list.)

To: Herr Hitler, Germany

We will not surrender Polish land. We will not yield
to German nationalism. Do your worst Fuhrer, the
Polish government will never surrender to imperial-
-istic scum like yourself.

You have lost the element of surprise, the raids l-
-aunched on the German-Polish starting 6 days ago
have more than seen to that. The intrusion at
Jablonka Pass has proven that the attacks were
commited by the German Wehrmacht, not some
of your imperialist supporters.

We have already appealed to France and Great Brit-
-ain for aid, and together we shall stand against you.

You cannot win.

To: Prime Minister Paul Reynaud, Paris

We have come to realize that Poland's individual strength
cannot hope to last against the might of the Germanic
empire. As such, the destroyer and submarine flotillas
of the Polish Navy are departing through the Danish strait
and are on their way to the English channel. If the battle
spreads to Germany, there our forces can better combat
the Fuhrer's navy.

Our army is in excellent condition, and given what we know
from the battles of the last Great War with Germany, we
believe that the Polish army can hold the line for perhaps...
6 months without aid. The line of defense is 2km deep
on the Polish border, where a large number of infantry
units are preparing to set up a line of trenches before the
German army arrives. Intelligence shows that german
armour, though numerous, is weak and easy to destroy.

With the aid of a french counter-attack, we believe
Germany will not last long. Let's hope this war will not
grow to the scale of the previous one.

Polish Military Strength:
700,000 fighting men
29 Active Infantry Divisions
10 Cavalry Brigades
3 Armoured Brigades
1 Bomber Air Brigade
1 Pursuit Air Brigade
4x Destroyers
5x Submarines

Of these, the Destroyers and Submarines are en route to the English channel, 9 Infantry Divisions, 3 Cavalry Brigades and 2 Armoured Brigades are attempting to fortify on the German-Polish border. 2 Infantry Divisions and 3 Cavalry Brigades are en route from the Polish Reserve Forces, due to arrive at the German-Polish border in 2 days. 2 Infantry Divisions are on the Prussian border.

Bombers and Fighters have been pulled out of the standard airbases and hidden in camouflaged airbases well behind the German lines. Hit-and-run attacks are planned, using the Polish knowledge of native terrain to fly low and keep the enemy confused as to the air force's true location. Many airbases ensures that the entire air force cannot be obliterated with one lucky bombing.


To: Prime Minister Paul Reynauld, Paris
From: Prime Minister Nobuyuki, Tokyo

We would like to assure France and her colonies that
Japan does not wish to go to war with our old friends.
Our mutual defense pact with the Third Reich extends
only to the defense against Soviet expansionism, and
we currently have no interest in this upcoming war
with Poland, which we consider to be a purely Western
affair.

Sincerely,
Prime Minister Nobuyuki

The French government is relieved to hear the Japanese response and ledges to not attack Japan except for in mitigating circumstances. We will also take the Polish advice into consideration, and will accept its ships and whatever troops it decides to send.

The French Army has called for a half mobilization to be completed in 30 days.

Once complete, numbers will be be about:

2.3 million fighting men
100 divisions
5 armoured divisions
1,800 planes (1,200 fighters, 600 bombers)

Turkey is supporting Pro-Turkish revolts in Iraq and Iran with money and weapons, but is not threatening France or Britain in anyway, just trying to help oppressed people

Turkey has started producing tanks and aircraft from their new factories, but the number is insignifigant so far. as more factories come online to the plan, more tanks will be produced

To: Prime Minister James Barry Munnik Hertzog
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain has seen the actions in Southern Africa and urges you to reconsider. If you contine your assault then we shall be forced to invade you, with the possible help of the Allied Forces.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime Minister of Great Britain

The South African tells the British government to get all troops out or they will be killed. Also they will not follow the British rule anymore.

OOC: Still need to rp the defense of your colony.

The Italian goverment formally declares war on Britian and it's colonial holdings. It also wished to declare war on Greece, Macedonia (and all the rest of those countries). It also asks the ever great Sultane of Turkey an arm of friendship and the bite of an alliance.

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The Italian goverment formally declares war on Britian and it's colonial holdings. It also wished to declare war on Greece, Macedonia (and all the rest of those countries). It also asks the ever great Sultane of Turkey an arm of friendship and the bite of an alliance.

(OOC: Turkey is a Republic, just FYI mate. ;)

Also, wth Ollie? I'm assuming that's a message in code? I can't read it. D:)

OOC: Is Nevadski going to rp any defense of the colony? Also can I just assumed I took over Gaborone without a fight?

The Italian goverment formally declares war on Britian and it's colonial holdings. It also wished to declare war on Greece, Macedonia (and all the rest of those countries). It also asks the ever great Sultane of Turkey an arm of friendship and the bite of an alliance.

The Spanish government, in order to rest the issue with the British Empire once and for all, demands that British forces be withdrawn from Gibraltar, or risk war.

To Italy:
If the case results that Britain refuses to withdraw her soldiers from Gibraltar, the Royal Italian armed forces may use Spain as a base of operations to attack British shipping, in which case Spain would also support militarily.

Turky is more than glad to help the Italians in their time of need, and Turkish troops begin to move into greece (anyone should probably put their moves on the Balkan thread) Turkey also steps up its stream of weapons and supplies to Iraq and Iran, and riots have begun in major Iraq cities, weakening the Iraq royal family's power

To the French Republic:

The Kingdom of Spain realizes that Basques terrorists use French provincial land as a base to kill innocent Spanish civilians. Despite our less than friendly relations, terrorism has never been a civilized way to fight or gain one's way, especially for a country like France. Therefore, we ask that the French accept the following:

1)The end of state funding to Basques terrorists
2)The expulsion and/or capture of all leaders of this terrorist organization

We do not consider this a supernatural task, nor are we placing demands upon the French state, especially at this difficult time in history. The beautiful city of Madrid itself is still trying to heal itself psychologically from the great sieges it suffered throughout the past during the great civil war. The absolute last thing we need is French sponsoring of Basques terrorists.

We also ask for other nations' support for Spain's plea. Surely, Spain is not the only country suffering heavily in in the field of international terrorism.

"Today," Prime Minister Nobuyuki declared. "Today Japan recognizes that a mighty war has broken out in the Balkans, that the Republic of Turkey has invaded Bulgaria and Greece just as Italy declares war on Great Britain and her allies. A New Order is rapidly forming, the pieces of the puzzle are beginning to fall into place.

"Which is why, as of today, we declare that all Chinese territories are subordinate to Japan. The Chinese people have nothing to fear from Japan, they should submit to the glory of our divine Emperor! However, we also recognize that to show our true intents, we must show respect to the conquered peoples. As of this day, every Korean national shall be shown the same honour and respect as a Japanese citizen. Every chinese man, woman and child in Manchukuo will be the equal of their Japanese cousin.

"I have ordered for the freedom of the comfort women, at the bequest of the Emperor himself. Reperations are to be made in both Korea and Manchukuo, and from this day forward no woman may be forced into military prostitution. I and many others agree that this selfish, boorish and terrible practice only serves to widen the gap between our peoples.

"To the chinese people, we beg you, think about what we offer you. The absolution of the Japanese Empire will make you mighty, together under the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, we will become one continent, indivisable and mighty once more. Our civilizations were once the greatest in the world, will we let the western powers who have enslaved us, hold you back?

"Neither should you believe the lies of the communist dog, they would subvert your will and offer you an alternative which looks mighty but is truly frail and weak. The Great Manchu Emperor, vassal to the Japanese Emperor, supports us, why should you not? China must be freed from the tyranny of the communists who seek to subvert it, and it must be brought into the GEACOPS.

"To you in China, we deliver an ultimatum: surrender to the might of the Japanese by 2300 or Japan shall declare war in order to bring a true peace."

----- -=-=- ----- -=-=- -----

The Great Manchu Empire added the following:

"We hope that our brethren in China will understand their opportunity and join with us. Since our occupation, marvelous advances have been made in education, health care and social services. They are taking our once primitive country and turning it into a modern state. To further the ties between Manchukuo and Japan, the Emperor of Japan himself has informed me that the shinto religion shall no longer be forced upon the citizens of Manchukuo. Upon his request, Manchukuo is to enter a state of Free Religion. The Taoist and Confucian temples are to be reopened, a practice of religiouis tolerance is now in effect!

"Similarly, we have agreed that the resistance cells must be put down permanantly. There are some who call us collaborators, for we do serve the Japanese Empire. Those who think that are wrong, we do not collaborate...we seek to bring Manchukuo into a new era of prosperity! We ask you to serve, to help build the mining facilities and factories that will help turn asia into a great power!

"Young men, do not be afraid to volunteer your life! Many of the rebel factions in Manchukuo are already laying down their arms, many have to come to see that opposition is wrong! Do not be afraid to serve in the military, to fight for a Free East Asia! At the request of Prime Minister Mitsumama, conscription notices for the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy have been delivered to all of Manchukuo's vast territory. But do not feel obliged to wait for a conscription notice, if you wish to serve as soon as possible, report to your nearest Police Station to volunteer! Leave behind your old life and seek honour and dignity in the Armed Forces! Let the enemies of the Empire know this: we shall not surrender to the western threats, we shall not give in, and we shall win against our enemies no matter the cost!"

Turkey's response: gasp! Turkey supports its friend the empire of Japan and hopes that China will have enough sense to accept this fair plan

To: Adolf Hilter
From:Prime Minister James Barry Munnik Hertzog

Since the recent threats of Great Britain we have decided to join your side. We want to join your country along with Japan and Italy. If you attack something we will join along side you. In the recent days we have captured the capital city of Gaborone. We will take the Bechuanaland Protectorate from the English. We will lead a front against the British if a war occurs. Please also send this message to Japan and Italy.

OOC: What is the time scale?

(OOC: Y'know, we never really decided that. A lot of people said 1 RL day - 1 week, Mexico suggested 1 IRL week - 1 day. I'd personally want to go for something like... 1 IRL day - 1 IC day, but that's just the insanity in me. ;D)

did Germany declare war on Poland? what is he doing?
and Britain isn't at war with anyone, why is Italy attacking him? Did I miss something?

ahem

France condemns the Japanese claim and wishes Japan to know that the French government dissaproves of the latest Japanese actions. We hope that the matter can be resolved as soon as possible.

France also condemns the attack on Greece by Turkey. Why is your state taking part in this thuggery? You have no rights in these areas. France warns the Turkish government to back down from attacking our friend Greece and warn that there will be repercussions if this is disobeyed.

In addition, France will be conducting a routine search of its Pyrennees territories to make sure that no rebellious forces are creating trouble or crossing the border into Spain for any reason. Those perpetrators will be arrested.

ANDDDD The French government warns both Italy, Spain, and South Africa to back down. These nations have no right to act according to their agressive behavior and are challenging France's ally, Britain. This will not be stood for and these countries must apologize or not attack.

(OOC: Germany gave Poland an ultimatum, though war has already pretty much broken out due to confusion amongst the German troops. The invasion was technically launched by a few divisions approximately 6 days earlier than planned. Now Germany demands that Poland surrender the Danzig Corridor or suffer invasion.

As for the Italian declaration of war...I don't know exactly why they declared on Britain, but I can see declaring war on Greece.

I'll edit this post and give France a response soon, in the middle of making dinner.)

Current Events
None

Army: 175,000 infantry 15,000 airborne
Equipment
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
M1918A2 BAR
M1A1 Thompson SMG
M3A1 "Grease Gun"
M1903A1 Sniper Rifle
M1919A4 .30 Caliber Air Cooled Machine Gun
M9A1 2.36in Rocket Launcher (Bazooka)

Tanks
Stuart M2

Army Fighters
P-26 Peashooter
P-35 Seversky
P-36 Hawk

Army Bombers
B-17 Flying Fortress

Navy: 10,000 marines

Naval Fighters
F2A Buffalo
F4F Wildcat

Naval Bombers
SBD Dauntless
TBD Devastator

Aircraft Carriers: 7
LANGLEY (CV 1)
LEXINGTON (CV 2)
SARATOGA (CV 3)
RANGER (CV 4)
YORKTOWN (CV 5)
ENTERPRISE (CV 6)
WASP (CV 7)

Battleships: 19
MISSISSIPPI (B-23)
IDAHO (B-24)
UTAH (BB 31)
WYOMING (BB 32)
ARKANSAS (BB 33)
NEW YORK (BB 34)
TEXAS (BB 35)
NEVADA (BB 36)
OKLAHOMA (BB 37)
PENNSYLVANIA (BB 38)
ARIZONA (BB 39)
NEW MEXICO (BB 40)
MISSISSIPPI (BB 41)
IDAHO (BB 42)
TENNESSEE (BB 43)
CALIFORNIA (BB 44)
COLORADO (BB 45)
MARYLAND (BB 46)
WEST VIRGINIA (BB 48)

Cruisers: Light, 24, Heavy, 22

Destroyers: 65

Submarines: 30

Developments
Ships laid down
Carriers x2 1940, 1941
Battleships x3 1940, 1940, 1941
Heavy Cruisers x6 1940, 1941, 1941, 1941, 1941, 1942
Light Curisers x2 1940, 1940
Destroyers x4 1940, 1940, 1940, 1941
Submarines x2 1940,1941

where do you find the info on these guns anyways?

and US, I posted on your factbook

(OOC: Wikipedia and Answers.com are a good source of information on the subject.)

The Japanese Government issues the following statement to the French government:

Begin Message...

We wish to remind the French that this is an affair purely
between the Chinese and Japanese nations. The colonies
France and Britain hold are not in danger from the Japanese
establishment of a Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

We do not wish to enter into a conflict with France. We do
not want to go to war with our old friends. We are trying to
free the Chinese people from the chaos of the rival factions:
the Nationalists and the Communists. If we can put down
these two armies and establish Japanese control over the r-
-egion, the citizens of China will be able to rest in peace.

I hope you are not going to interfere with our quest for a
peaceful and unified Asian Empire. We have no quarrel with
the West.

The Japanese Government issues the following statement to the French government:

Begin Message...

We wish to remind the French that this is an affair purely
between the Chinese and Japanese nations. The colonies
France and Britain hold are not in danger from the Japanese
establishment of a Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

We do not wish to enter into a conflict with France. We do
not want to go to war with our old friends. We are trying to
free the Chinese people from the chaos of the rival factions:
the Nationalists and the Communists. If we can put down
these two armies and establish Japanese control over the r-
-egion, the citizens of China will be able to rest in peace.

I hope you are not going to interfere with our quest for a
peaceful and unified Asian Empire. We have no quarrel with
the West.

[ooc: sorry for the clutter, but VERY NICE!!! well-versed and directly on-topic too :)]

(OOC: Germany gave Poland an ultimatum, though war has already pretty much broken out due to confusion amongst the German troops. The invasion was technically launched by a few divisions approximately 6 days earlier than planned. Now Germany demands that Poland surrender the Danzig Corridor or suffer invasion.

As for the Italian declaration of war...I don't know exactly why they declared on Britain, but I can see declaring war on Greece.

I'll edit this post and give France a response soon, in the middle of making dinner.)

Italy declared war on France after it was evident that the Germans would win...and in some twist of irony, the Italians were losing the war up until the France capitulation in June, although the losses were so insignificant to the French losses to the Germans...

did Germany declare war on Poland? what is he doing?
and Britain isn't at war with anyone, why is Italy attacking him? Did I miss something?

ahem

France condemns the Japanese claim and wishes Japan to know that the French government dissaproves of the latest Japanese actions. We hope that the matter can be resolved as soon as possible.

France also condemns the attack on Greece by Turkey. Why is your state taking part in this thuggery? You have no rights in these areas. France warns the Turkish government to back down from attacking our friend Greece and warn that there will be repercussions if this is disobeyed.

In addition, France will be conducting a routine search of its Pyrennees territories to make sure that no rebellious forces are creating trouble or crossing the border into Spain for any reason. Those perpetrators will be arrested.

ANDDDD The French government warns both Italy, Spain, and South Africa to back down. These nations have no right to act according to their agressive behavior and are challenging France's ally, Britain. This will not be stood for and these countries must apologize or not attack.

wha?

double wha?

are you sure this is WWII?

(OOC: I'm glad that you liked it. =)

We have already started, and seeing as how this is an Alternate History thread, you are probably confused by the decisions some people have made for their nations. South Africa, for example, has seceded from the Commonwealth. Turkey has attacked Greece and Bulgaria in an attempt to spread its empire. Japan has made the use of comfort women illegal and brought Free Religion to Manchukuo in order to try and appease the locals. )

The only people I see who are on topic are Japan, France, and the USA...

Germany, where are you?

Turkey, what are you doing?

Italy, what are you doing?

South Africa, you're a part of the British Commonwealth!!! Why are you attacking the nation that is supporting you?

If you will note, I listed the nations in ranking order of WTHRUD [what the heck are you doing?] priority.

If this is not WWII, please excuse my comments...

(OOC: I'm glad that you liked it. =)

We have already started, and seeing as how this is an Alternate History thread, you are probably confused by the decisions some people have made for their nations. South Africa, for example, has seceded from the Commonwealth. Turkey has attacked Greece and Bulgaria in an attempt to spread its empire. Japan has made the use of comfort women illegal and brought Free Religion to Manchukuo in order to try and appease the locals. )

OOOK...
:eek:

(OOC: I must admit, some of these players are being a bit...well, insane. I assure you that Germany is definitely 'on-topic' though he hasn't posted much. Last time I had this thread he played as South Africa and he seceded from the Commonwealth, but ONLY after many many posts of working up the irritation and frustration with the British, at which point the military usurped the South African government and seceded. That was a good time...)

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My apologies. A lesson for all, never go on the internet when pissed out of your head.

OOC: Okay.....I leave to go to school and when I come back every goddamn country in the world declares war on me! What did I do?

Current state of the German armed forces;

Wermacht - Poland - 31 Infantry divs, 6 motorized divs, 10 panzer divs
- French border - 32 Infantry divs
- Germany - 8 Infantry divs, 5 Mountain divs, 1 Panzer div
- "Special Operations" - 4 Para divs, the "Otto Skorzeny" SS
airborne brigade

Luftwaffe - 90% of German air units are engaged in the Polish campaign. The last 10%, made up of fighter forces, are providing cover over Berlin, Hamburg and the Ruhr.

Kriegsmarine - Baltic - 2 Battle Cruisers
- German Ports - 1 Battleship, 2 Battle Cruisers, 4 Pocket
battleships, 11 Destroyers.
- On station in North Atlantic - 11 Cruisers, 30 destroyers, 57 U-
Boats

Germany is currently at war with Poland.

Diplomatic messages issued by the Third Reich today.

To Premier Daladier, France

Our polish campaign is now underway. It is our intention to wipe from the map this despicable creation of the Versailles treaty. Do what you will.

To Prime Minister Chamberlain, Great Britain

Our Polish campaign is underway. It is our intention to wipe from the map this despicable creation of the Versailles treaty. We have no wish for war with your great nation and would urge you take up our offer, of giving us a free hand in continental Europe in return for a guarentee of the British Empire.


To the leaders of the Axis nations (Italy, Turkey, South Africa and Japan)

The Furher would like to hold a conference at the Brenner Pass between our great nations with three objectives.

1 - To clarify any spheres of influence between our expansionist policies.
2 - To provide a concerted, JOINT effort in the destruction of the western democracies, namely France and Britain. Once these nations fall, then the way is fre for Axis domination of the world.
3 - To apply JOINT diplomatic pressure on ensuring Russian neutrality for the time being.

If in agreement please post so and i will start a conference thread.


To the Taisoch, Ireland

It is quite obvious that any British war aims to protect her empire would include the re-taking of Ireland under British domination. We would urge you to counter these ideals and join with the Axis in resisting British colonial aggression.

Prime Minster Neville Chamberlain realised a statement that the British Government will not back down to the thuggish threats by the nations of South Africa and Italy. Spain has received a warning that if they continue to offer accomodation for Italian Terorists that they shall receive the full brunt of the Allied Forces power. In response to the statement issued by the South African Prime Minister, Britain will not remove her men from the colony of Gaborone and any attacks on said colony will be treated as declarations of war. Great Britain put up an urge not to join these rebellions, as they will be short lived. Citizens of Gaborone are asked to either leave to a safer city of, if they must stay, remain inside and set up barricades. Any civillian seen with a gun will be treated as a terrorist.

To: Fuhrer Hitler
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Noting aggressive activities against Poland, it is in our interests that we remind you of the Alliance. Up until now Great Britain has recognised the new Nazi Germany as a thriving success from the Depression brought by World War I. If Poland agrees to your exhange, then Britain will stand by. If, however, after the negotiations you continue you your attack or the Polish Government disagrees with you and you continue you to assault, then Great Britain and all her allies shall engage war with Germany.

Neville Chamberlain,
Prime Minster of Great Britain

To: Fuhrer Hitler
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Noting aggressive activities against Poland, it is in our interests that we remind you of the Alliance. Up until now Great Britain has recognised the new Nazi Germany as a thriving success from the Depression brought by World War I. If Poland agrees to your exhange, then Britain will stand by. If, however, after the negotiations you continue you your attack or the Polish Government disagrees with you and you continue you to assault, then Great Britain and all her allies shall engage war with Germany.

Neville Chamberlain,
Prime Minster of Great Britain

We offered time and again peaceful solutions to this crisis to both you and the Polish governments and our overtures have been repeatedlly ignored. If that is your position then war it must be. We must assure you that Germany will not hold back in this life or death struggle, and the responsibility for the potential deaths of millions lies squarely on your shoulders.

OOC: Will we need a thread for the actual World War "Axis VS Allies"? That would be much more better than having one thread for every nation.

THE TIMES

WAR WITH GERMANY PENDING!

After many negotiations to remove German Troops from Poland the Germans have commenced their campaign to crush the Polish Government. Earlier today, Prime Minster Neville Chamberlain stated that "Great Britain shall never allow such an aggressive Government Regime to remain in charge of Germany." In preperations for war conscription has begun and Weapon Productions have increased. Britain sends a call to all her allies to join her in putting down the corrupt government and calls for Germany's ally, the Japanese Empire, to side against this "barbaric act".

CHURCHILL NEW NAVY COMMANDERPage 4

WAR IN AFRICA?Page 5

ITALIAN BID FOR CONQUEST!Page 4

To: Premier Daladier
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Germany has declared a campaign on Poland. Hitler has broken the agreement. We ask you to aid us in our invasion of Germany.

Neville Chamberlain,
Prime Minster of Great Britain

Turkey hasn't offically declared war on Britain yet, it is merely supporting its ally at the moment. Nakatan, i don't see how you're completely shocked. Greek/Turkish warfare has happened quite a lot, most recently in 1925. Sout Africa is led by Afrikanners, who hate the british and fought 3 wars to attempt to get out of their rule.

To France: Turkey has no quarrel with you at this time. Turkey advises that France not attempt to meddle in the affairs of a free nation, especially as you have colonized many people who do not wish your rule

To Germany: Turkey accepts the invitation, but stresses that going to the conference is merely to make sure that we are on the same page, and will not automatically mean any declarations of war

Turkey also continued their support for pro-Turkish rebels in Iraq, and sent 500 volunteers over the border on horseback to avoid being caught on the request of the rebels to help train them

Turkey hasn't offically declared war on Britain yet, it is merely supporting its ally at the moment. Nakatan, i don't see how you're completely shocked. Greek/Turkish warfare has happened quite a lot, most recently in 1925. Sout Africa is led by Afrikanners, who hate the british and fought 3 wars to attempt to get out of their rule.

To France: Turkey has no quarrel with you at this time. Turkey advises that France not attempt to meddle in the affairs of a free nation, especially as you have colonized many people who do not wish your rule

To Germany: Turkey accepts the invitation, but stresses that going to the conference is merely to make sure that we are on the same page, and will not automatically mean any declarations of war

considering the circumstances, I listed the countries in ranking order of WTHRUD precedence...since you were number 2 on the list, I saw a valid reason for the war with Greece.

South Africa has almost no reason for declaring war on the UK - their army is malequipped and practically non-existent, considering that the UK had more troops to maintain order [on favors with the UK of course...] unless Germany or Italy explicitly gave aid to these people [which of course would be reasonable in itself...]. Seeing as South Africa "liberated" itself without any aid, the British should still be control. Besides, the threat from Italy was more pressing than the threat from the UK [seeing as South Africa left the Commonwealth after WWII ended].

And anyway since everyone else is going haywire, why not Turkey? They've hated the Greeks since 1833, and everyone else is getting their fair share...

Sorry to be a pain, but does anyone have anything on Norway's military? I can only find stuff about what they did in WW2

The Kingdom of Egypt expresses its desire not to involve itself in any of the affairs of the war in Europe.

As previously stated, it is the current policy of the United States of America not to involve itself in the affairs of foreign warfare.

Norway had 6 divisions, 2 coastal defense cruisers, 7 destroyer escorts, 9 submarines, 10 minelayers, 8 minesweepers, 17 Torpedo boats, 58 patrol craft

Statement to the British Empire:

Begin Message...

Germany is an ally of Japan and we believe that the
demand for the annexation of Danzig was justified.
The region was german through and through, pop-
-ulated by germans and ruled by germans. The G-
-erman defeat in World War I left them without a
part of their ancient homeland. The Germans seem
to want nothing more than the unification of their
people under one banner, something we can emp-
-athize with.

This act of 'barbarism' as you call it, is simply an
act of unification. We will not turn against our ally
for attempted to restore their great empire in the
most honourable way: upon the field of combat.


Message to Germany:

We will be at your conference, just name the
time and date.

The Kingdom of Egypt would like to encourage the warring states to keep the noise. HM Farouk wants to sleep, but is having a great deal of trouble with all this noise.

Diplomatic messages issued by the Third Reich today.

To the Taoiseach, Ireland

It is quite obvious that any British war aims to protect her empire would include the re-taking of Ireland under British domination. We would urge you to counter these ideals and join with the Axis in resisting British colonial aggression.

The Taoiseach looked over this message. He was bervous. In times such as these any man would be. An alliance with Germany would ensure a British attack but if they tried to side with the English they would be in debt to them once again. He issued a message to Hitler with in two hours.

To Adolf Hitler,
This proposition depends on one thing. How fast can you get troops here? Before we can go public we would have to be secure and with a nation and economy as small as ours is security is a difficult thing to acheive. One thing that we would demand in an alliance is our freedom to rule our selves as well as the return of Northern Ireland. An alliance of this nature would surely seem to benefit our nations but our proximity to England would quite possibly lead to our destruction. Our navy is but a few small patrol ships to put them against the English navy, let alone Allied navy, would be utter maddness. If we could possibly build up our defenses first then we this alliance will be a likely thing.
Signed,
Taoiseach Eamon de Valera
President Douglas Hyde

OOC: Note: I have an earlier post in which the IRA tries to contact you. You may want to look at that as well. Post #23 on this thread.

To Eamon de Valera

We would of course allow the Irish complete home rule and would be prepared to send troops to Ireland to help you annex Northern Ireland (see TG). We would welcome Ireland as members of the axis.

To: Adolf Hilter
From: Prime Minister James Hertzog

Since the threats of Great Britain we have decided to meet you in Brenner Pass. Also we are glad that we have been accepted into the your alliance.



Since the invasion of the Bechuanaland Protectorate. The South African army has captured the capital city. The Army plans on moving forward and capturing all of the country.


OOC: Nevadski have invaded a colony of yours. Rp the defense.

Turkey has called for the production of 8 new submarines, 8 destroyers, 800 Mark III tanks, and 10,000 trucks, although the production will take a while to produce ( along time for the tanks)

ANDDDD The French government warns both Italy, Spain, and South Africa to back down. These nations have no right to act according to their agressive behavior and are challenging France's ally, Britain. This will not be stood for and these countries must apologize or not attack.

The Spanish government feels that it is none of France's concern to penetrate in our affairs on the subject of Gibraltar or any other dispute with Britain. We would like to note that it really is not wise for the French Republic to threaten Spain while she has two hostile nations - Germany and Italy - already encroaching on her border. I trust that Spain is not a third nation that France wishes to provoke. It would not be economically nor militarily feasible for France to threaten us. We respectfully ask that France withdraw its statements to Spain.

Now, back to England. The Honorable dictator of Spain reiterates her request of withdrawal from the territory of Gibraltar. Furthermore, we consider it laughable that Britain even dares to condemn Germany's simple request for the city of Danzig. We are certainly not amused at this double standard being played by London. Once again, peacefully withdraw your forces and lower your flag from Gibraltar, or we will freeze British supply lines to the Rock. Despite British overconfidence and occupation of sovereign Spanish territory (Gibraltar), Spanish forces rule both sides of the strait. It will not be difficult to forcibly annex it.

The Madrid government wishes to make its point by ordering another 100 Focke-Wulf Fw 190s from Germany. We will also ensure our sovereignty and right by acquiring five ships with 12" guns. We refuse to appear as an ineffective and weak state as our enemies often attempt to portray us as.

Spain wishes to congratulate the victorious South African army in conquering the capital city. May your victories continue!

Telegram to the UK:

While His Majesty's government does not wish to engage in war, HM Farouk is growing anxious over these rumors of southern terrorities revolting and attacking your colonies. As it seems that we do not want these revolts to intensify into Egyptian territories, we will offer passive assistance to your units, so long as Egypt does not become involved in the European war. Our only hope is that the southern territories may be put under control soon, to insure the security of our fair countries.

HM has drafted the army, and added another 10,000 men to the ranks. By the end of this year, we want to have increased the army by 50,000 men. Again, these troops will not fight Italians or Germans - that is Europe. We will be fighting these southeren territories, who apparently rout the south of Africa under their terror, and it disturbs His Majesty. We hope that this proposal will be fine with your PM.

The Honorable dictator of Spain reiterates her request of withdrawal from the territory of Gibraltar. Furthermore, we consider it laughable that Britain even dares to condemn Germany's simple request for the city of Danzig. We are certainly not amused at this double standard being played by London. Once again, peacefully withdraw your forces and lower your flag from Gibraltar, or we will freeze British supply lines to the Rock. Despite British overconfidence and occupation of sovereign Spanish territory (Gibraltar), Spanish forces rule both sides of the strait. It will not be difficult to forcibly annex it.

[ooc: just a comment about it, but Spain's claim that Britain is holding a double standard isn't justified, since the UK is refusing to submit territory to another nation, and by supporting Poland, the UK reinforces their position against the calls of Germany to cede territory...just a simple twist of logic...]

[ooc: just a comment about it, but Spain's claim that Britain is holding a double standard isn't justified, since the UK is refusing to submit territory to another nation, and by supporting Poland, the UK reinforces their position against the calls of Germany to cede territory...just a simple twist of logic...]

And why couldn't the cowardly nation of Britain "reinforce" their position when German troops marched into Prague? Or even earlier, in Vienna? Britain is a nation that simply wishes to keep a balance in which it retains mastery of the seas and it can harrass other nations in the process. Spain also has a right to expand and assert itself, and we are very bent on doing so.

And why couldn't the cowardly nation of Britain "reinforce" their position when German troops marched into Prague? Or even earlier, in Vienna? Britain is a nation that simply wishes to keep a balance in which it retains mastery of the seas and it can harrass other nations in the process. Spain also has a right to expand and assert itself, and we are very bent on doing so.

[ooc: that last comment was an ooc, not policy...I'd respect it if you didn't treat it as policy...]

France officially declares war on Germany, Italy, and South Africa.

In alliance with Britain (OOC: wherever he is), the democratic forces shall defeat the Axis and bring the world back to its proper state, free and at peace. The world is urged to see through the myths of fascism and join the Allies in destroying those who would see the world fall to tyranny and war.

The French government has issued a full mobilization of all army forces and transferred all factories and society onto a war footing.

A French offensive into Germany has begun while many German forces are commited in Poland.

Western Front Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10485107#post10485107

Naval forces have been called out of major French ports to deal with the outbreak of war. From Brest and Cherbourg, a fleet is being combined to head out into the North Sea to blockade Germany and help Poland as it can.

Another naval force is being prepped in Southern France to board troops and leave for wherever needed. A third force had left the Mediterrannean ports and is heading to gain superiority in the waters of the Western Med.

To: Eire, whom it may concern
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Great Britain would like to invite the Republic of Ireland into the Allies, to defend against the common enemy. Britain notes that there has been disgression between our nations for sometime, but warns that if Germany conquers France and captures Great Britain, he will immediately launch an invasion across the sea to Ireland. Please consider this.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime Minister of Great Britain

As previously stated, it is the current policy of the United States of America not to involve itself in the affairs of foreign warfare.

Great Britain is appalled that it has to remind America of the terms of an Alliance, which include defending your allies. Britain commends this act of "cowardace", calling it the exact same to allying Germany.

To: The United States of America Government
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain must remind you once more that once Germany has successfully conquered Europe, it will spill over to Asia with its allies and create a super country bigger then Americas. Then, it will attack America. Britain hopes this will provide the Americans some incentive to aid Great Britain, France and all her allies.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime minister of Great Britain

Turkey has announced the creation of the arab legion, and has called for volunteers from any nation to join the ranks of them (kind of like the arab legion). the arab legion will spread amongst arab nations to recruit and support governments that wil help the people, not just a royal family or a puppet government. The arab legion wil comprise of 5 divisions, with 2,000 Turkish soldiers in each division already, to provide training and support for the volunteers that will arrive. more support is being sent to rebels in Iraq, and the skeleton force of 1 division has been sent to aid the Iraqi rebels

Great Britain is appalled that it has to remind America of the terms of an Alliance, which include defending your allies. Britain commends this act of "cowardace", calling it the exact same to allying Germany.

To: The United States of America Government
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain must remind you once more that once Germany has successfully conquered Europe, it will spill over to Asia with its allies and create a super country bigger then Americas. Then, it will attack America. Britain hopes this will provide the Americans some incentive to aid Great Britain, France and all her allies.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime minister of Great Britain

Reply,

Our foreign policy is our foreign policy. Condemning it as cowardice in no way will win you support of the American people.

Reply,

Our foreign policy is our foreign policy. Condemning it as cowardice in no way will win you support of the American people.

You are willing to put the lifes of your people and allies behind a policy?

You are willing to put the lifes of your people and allies behind a policy?

Are you questioning American policy?

(When the frick is Germany? I'm bored as hell)

Turkey has continued their shipments of weapons to Iraqi rebels, and the soldiers that have crossed the border have spread out amongst the cities. The soldiers directed attacks against military bases and police stations to weakenn the rotal family's control of Iraq even further, and several ministers and aids to the Hashemite monarchy, and several more fled the country. Iraq was teetering, and the rebels were more than ready to tip it. Turkey has also announced draft notices being sent to 100,000 more men to make up for casualties already sustained

OOC: Norway isn't exactly the first place the germans are going to go, you could also play as another nation

To: Eire, whom it may concern
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Great Britain would like to invite the Republic of Ireland into the Allies, to defend against the common enemy. Britain notes that there has been disgression between our nations for sometime, but warns that if Germany conquers France and captures Great Britain, he will immediately launch an invasion across the sea to Ireland. Please consider this.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime Minister of Great Britain


Eamon looked over the message. He was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Joining the Allies would cause the IRA to go crazy but joining the Axis would mean the wrath of England would fall upon them like a hammer. He sent out a message to the English Prime Minister:

We are also well aware of out two nations' past and it is because of that that we wish to stay nuetral in this war. The IRA would act up like crazy if we were to ally with you but we know from past experiance that you are more than a formidable opponet.

Signed:
Taoiseach Eamon de Valera
President Douglas Hyde

The Taoiseach new that increasing his nations defenses would require help. After a tedious meeting with his staff he sent the following message:

Dear Generalissimo Stalin,
We are both leaders of nations who seem to wish to stay neutral in this time of horrible voilence. I propose that we work together to protect our borders. We have some very valueable minds here and we know of your production abilities. If we work together than we will both benefit.

Signed,
Taoiseach Eamon de Valera
President Douglas Hyde

OOC: Spain, don't clutter up the war thread with non-related war matters.

IC: The Straits of Gibralter are international waters free for the passage of any shipping from any country. Spain does not even own both sides of the channel and has no right to prevent French ships from passing through. Any attack on French ships or shipping is an act of piracy and war and is likely to bring not just France but much of the free trading world such as the United States and Brazil into war with Spain. Spain shall retract its statement as it has not backing. France does not desire war with Spain. For the meantime, little shipping is to go back and forth as the Mediterranean fleet is patrolling that fleet while the Atlantic fleet is headed out to sea.

OOC: Spain, don't clutter up the war thread with non-related war matters.

IC: The Straits of Gibralter are international waters free for the passage of any shipping from any country. Spain does not even own both sides of the channel and has no right to prevent French ships from passing through. Any attack on French ships or shipping is an act of piracy and war and is likely to bring not just France but much of the free trading world such as the United States and Brazil into war with Spain. Spain shall retract its statement as it has not backing. France does not desire war with Spain. For the meantime, little shipping is to go back and forth as the Mediterranean fleet is patrolling that fleet while the Atlantic fleet is headed out to sea.

about Brazil.... you might want to read the Axis thread...

ahhhh, Bogus! - well maybe not them then

Great Britain is appalled that it has to remind America of the terms of an Alliance, which include defending your allies. Britain commends this act of "cowardace", calling it the exact same to allying Germany.

To: The United States of America Government
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain must remind you once more that once Germany has successfully conquered Europe, it will spill over to Asia with its allies and create a super country bigger then Americas. Then, it will attack America. Britain hopes this will provide the Americans some incentive to aid Great Britain, France and all her allies.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime minister of Great Britain

As sad as it seems, the alliance between UK and US does not exist. At some conference on an Atlantic island [I like to think Bermuda, but the name's not coming to me and it wasn't as a recognizable an island as that one...] At the conference, Churchill and Rroosevelt discussed in secret how America could come into the war, and how America could help Britain without violating American neutrality...

As sad as it seems, the alliance between UK and US does not exist. At some conference on an Atlantic island [I like to think Bermuda, but the name's not coming to me and it wasn't as a recognizable an island as that one...] At the conference, Churchill and Rroosevelt discussed in secret how America could come into the war, and how America could help Britain without violating American neutrality...

OOC: And instead of attempting something like that, all you've done is critic the USA's actions and called them cowards.

The Taoiseach new that increasing his nations defenses would require help. After a tedious meeting with his staff he sent the following message:

Dear Generalissimo Stalin,
We are both leaders of nations who seem to wish to stay neutral in this time of horrible voilence. I propose that we work together to protect our borders. We have some very valueable minds here and we know of your production abilities. If we work together than we will both benefit.

Signed,
Taoiseach Eamon de Valera
President Douglas Hyde

Dear Taoiseach Eamon de Valera,
I would gladly help comrade but what comes of this deal, for if i attempt to send reinforcements my fellow comrades have a chance of getting shot down by Britain with the fear of bombings, i will make a deal to have an armistice with Britain and i will get back to you, comrade.

Signed,
Generalissimo Stalin

Dear Prime Minister Chamberlain
I wish no harm between our nations comrade, for I have a pact with Taoiseach Eamon de Valera, i want an armistice between our nations for the reason of the pact with Ireland. If you would respond ASAP I would be very grateful.

Signed
Generalissimo Stalin

OOC: I'm a little confused. when did Britain and Russia start fighting?

OOC: They didn't, IRA there just missused the word Armistice.

OOC: And instead of attempting something like that, all you've done is critic the USA's actions and called them cowards.

[ooc: was that directed to me or to UK?]

HM Farouk announces the completion of the first phase in the mobilization of defense forces, in lieu of the situation brewing in Europe. Our forces have now mobilized 45000 men, mostly infantry and light cavalry units [mobilized infantry]. We likewise send our encouragement to the powers in Europe to avoid entangling other powers into their wars, and furthermore send our hopes that this will be easily and quickly resolved.

As sad as it seems, the alliance between UK and US does not exist. At some conference on an Atlantic island [I like to think Bermuda, but the name's not coming to me and it wasn't as a recognizable an island as that one...] At the conference, Churchill and Rroosevelt discussed in secret how America could come into the war, and how America could help Britain without violating American neutrality...

OOC The Americans came into war because of Pearl arbour, a completely Japanese attack. What did that have to do with a plan with Britain?

Dear Prime Minister Chamberlain
I wish no harm between our nations comrade, for I have a pact with Taoiseach Eamon de Valera, i want an armistice between our nations for the reason of the pact with Ireland. If you would respond ASAP I would be very grateful.

Signed
Generalissimo Stalin

To: Generalissimo Stalin
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain would be glad to accept a short term alliance if you swear that Russia will not send weapons that could be used against us if either the Ireland joins the Axis or the IRA get their hands on them.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime minister of Great Britain

OOC: Spain, don't clutter up the war thread with non-related war matters.

IC: The Straits of Gibralter are international waters free for the passage of any shipping from any country. Spain does not even own both sides of the channel and has no right to prevent French ships from passing through. Any attack on French ships or shipping is an act of piracy and war and is likely to bring not just France but much of the free trading world such as the United States and Brazil into war with Spain. Spain shall retract its statement as it has not backing. France does not desire war with Spain. For the meantime, little shipping is to go back and forth as the Mediterranean fleet is patrolling that fleet while the Atlantic fleet is headed out to sea.

Of course Spain controls both sides of the channel, who do you think occupies northern Morocco? The French government is absolutely mad if it thinks that the "free trade world" will come to assist France in allowing warships through to attack Italian shipping. No, our original proposal shall stand. Any French warship passing through our waters shall be sunk at sight.

(PS, I wasn't aware I was out of character, sorry. I thought we were supposed to only put non-war/pre-war diplomatic matters into this particular thread until one was opened on a particular area of fighting?)

To: Generalissimo Stalin
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain would be glad to accept a short term alliance if you swear that Russia will not send weapons that could be used against us if either the Ireland joins the Axis or the IRA get their hands on them.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime minister of Great Britain
Dear Prime Minister Chamberlain
I thank you for the alliance, but i am not getting into any conflicts for i want russia to stay peaceful. I am sending troops and supplies to Ireland, but if they wish to join the axis army i will withdraw my troops immediatley. If the IRA wishes to stir up trouble i may need to use force to stop them. If you open fire on my comrades i will use force against Great Britain, I dont want it to come to that comrade. I once again thank you for the alliance and if you need any help you can ask me and we will see what happens from there.

Generalissimo Stalin

Dear Adolf Hitler
i wish no harm between our countries i want know trouble so for the safety of both of our countries please dont invade Russia or any of our allies.

Signed
Generalissimo Stalin

Of course Spain controls both sides of the channel, who do you think occupies northern Morocco? The French government is absolutely mad if it thinks that the "free trade world" will come to assist France in allowing warships through to attack Italian shipping. No, our original proposal shall stand. Any French warship passing through our waters shall be sunk at sight.


Italy congratulates Spain on it's affirmative action and will happily sign a non-agression act, defensive pact, and will provide anything else within Italy's power.

Okay you have a point :rolleyes:, so yes, in a sudden move Italy asks for peace, since really what have I to lose? In other matters Italy annexes Libya and ferries troops over there to take down the primitive resistance. Also, Tripoli is fortified as Italy requests Egypt to stand down as the South African leadership has given up.

[ooc: Italy annexed Libya in 1912, after a war with the Ottomans...]

The Kingdom of Egypt expresses its desire to remain neutral in all of the conflicts of Europe, especially pertaining to the UK and her allies. While you are not considered an ally of the UK, we still do not wish to engage in hostility. Still, the recent events in South Africa and with other volatile nations presses us to improve the self-defense of our land. We can grant that Italy has nothing at all to fear from the Kingdom of Egypt.

H.M. Farouk I, by the grace of Allah, King of Egypt and of Sudan, Sovereign of Nubia, of Kordofan and of Darfur

OOC The Americans came into war because of Pearl arbour, a completely Japanese attack. What did that have to do with a plan with Britain?

[ooc: American and British governments had planned for the entrance of the USA into the European war for a long time. While there is conspiracy theory saying that FDR intentionally let Pearl Harbor happen to enter the war, it was decided at the conference that Japan would certainly attack the USA - for which the USA would declare war. And being a member of the Axis alliance, Germany and Italy would declare war on the USA. Basically, that's the reason why the USA placed a number 1 priority in Europe compared to the war in Asia.]

(OOC: I believe spain is right, it's fine to post war-related diplomatic matters. The Non-War basically means that you shouldn't post any Combat in this thread. Didn't I specify that? Maybe not...=/)

OOC: A few points i feel inclined to make...
1. a few days before the bombing of pearl harbor, the draft bil passed congress by a single vote. anything could happen in this RP, maybe Roosevelt became isolationist or something.
2. Tunisia is a colony of France i believe, so annexing it might cause some troubles

IC: the first whole-scale riots broke out today in Iraq as the Arab Legion and Iraqi rebels, as well as Kurdish rebels in the North (turkey would allow them semi-autonomy, as long as they gave a percentage of tax money, raised conscripts for Turkey, and allowed Turkey to dictate foreign policy), and the 5 divisions on the border were raised to high alert as rebels called for Turkey to assist them, and the Turkish cabinent went into a special session to decide whether or not to help them, as Iraqi royalists fled the country

Turkey also announced the movement of 1 division to Saudi Arabia to protect Saudia Arabia, and offers the same proposal to any middle eastern nation that wishes it

Saudi Arabia has accepted the division for from Turkey. Saudi Arabia is sending oil to Turkey.

Also, I found the numbers of my military.

Levies- 15,000 (camel fighters that are good at warfare, but ar poorly armed).

Regulars- 4,000 (western armed soldiers)

Air Force- still in infant stage.

Navy- 12 transports and 7 warships from WW1.

To: His Majesty Franco

The Italian goverment wishes once again the best regards for your most honorable goverment to stand up to
the egotistical French goverment and their petty accusations anddemands. The Italian goverment wishes to have
a ever-growing correspondance so that France will not be able to go about tryannizing innocent minorities
and states. So I, Benito Mussolini, formally ask you into the pan-Mediterranean Treaty wich includes the following,

1.) Any and all military help in either offensive or defensive operations.
2.) Economic help and decreased tarrifs for goods from members of the treaty.
3.) Open borders between all members.

These I hope you will accept to and have a wonderful day.

In all due respect,
Benito Mussolini
The Emperor of the New Roman Empire


To: The Prime Minister of Turkey

Hello, as you know we have already a series of agreemnets which have proved to be benifical.
I ask for you to join in the new pan-Mediterranean Treaty which shall hopefully encompas the whole
Mediterranean. In it are these three things,

1.) Any and all military help in either offensive or defensive operations.
2.) Economic help and decreased tarrifs for goods from members of the treaty.
3.) Open borders between all members.

, I hope to hear a swift reply in the next few days.

In all due respect,
Benito Mussolini
Emperor of the New Roman Empire


To: His Majesty Chamberlain

Once again I ask for peace, some people may wonder at why this has happened but I totally agree
in the assumption that war between our two great empires will only hurt innocent men and boys who will
be inevitably in-toxiated by the ever-present need for blood and glory. That can be changed
but it will need various factions to come together. Shall it be peace or not? If not, the Empire demands Crete and Corsica from your ally, France.

In all due respect,
Benito Mussolini
Emperor of the New Roman Empire

To Mussolini,
Turkey is glad to enter an alliance with the honorable Roman Empire, and hopes our two nations can prosper through this treaty.
His Excellency, Ismet Inonu

To Saudi Arabia,
Turkey would be more than happy in supplying arms and training to Saudi Arabia's military

To: All nations

King Ibn Saud wish to gain a contract with a nation that will supply his military forces with weapons that can compete with the other nations. The nation who gets this contract will be paid with great amounts of oil and Saudi Arabia's support and friendship.

I will make my desicion on who the comtract should go too by 12:00 pm Sunday.

Many thanks,
King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia

ironically, i edited that just before you put in the request
IC: Turkey requests moving a division of the Arab Legio into Saudi Arabia to recruit people for Saudi Arabia's defense

Italy congratulates Spain on it's affirmative action and will happily sign a non-agression act, defensive pact, and will provide anything else within Italy's power.

The Spanish government wishes to inform Italy that Spain is already sympathetic to the Italian cause, and that an alliance isn't necessary - after all, it is Italy who provided forces so the Nationalists would emerge victorious in the civil war. We also realize how life with the stubborn French can be, after all, France has been nothing but a menace to Europe for centuries. Attacking, enslaving, if anything we believe that Italy's war with France is a blessing. We are only fearful that the French will attempt to influence our political affairs. They've already been supporting regional separatists and Communists, God only knows what's next.

Francisco Franco,
General of the Spanish Republic

To Trukey:

Turkey I would be honor to have you train and arm my man, I just want to wait a little longer before I make anything final. I also will take the time to infrom as soon as I feel my nation is secure I wish to send military support to your armies.:sniper:

To Italy:

Italy I wish to find a way have a closer diplomatic relations with you please let us decussion some ideas.

To: His Majesty Chamberlain

Once again I ask for peace, some people may wonder at why this has happened but I totally agree
in the assumption that war between our two great empires will only hurt innocent men and boys who will
be inevitably in-toxiated by the ever-present need for blood and glory. That can be changed
but it will need various factions to come together. Shall it be peace or not? If not, the Empire demands Crete and Corsica from your ally, France.

In all due respect,
Benito Mussolini
Emperor of the New Roman Empire

To: Benito Mussolini
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain recognises this as a treaty of peace, but must decline. Germany has broken all ties with the Treaty of Versailles, and has done what it was suppose to stop. Create a war in Europe. If Italy will back down all military actions then Great Britain shall declare Italy as Neutral.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime Minister of Great Britain

Saudia Arabia is offically accepting turkey offer to train and recuit soldiers. Many thanks to Turkey.

The Turkish cabinent came out of their special session with their decision: Turkey would aid the Iraqi rebels.
Middle East thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10497773#post10497773

OOC: Tenarius I'm waiting on your reply about my TG

[on a note on the behalf of an NPC nation, Greece]

His Majesty King George II of Greece, in exile in Malta, respectfully requests assistance from the United Kingdom and France, to help protect his country from the advances of the Turks, who are committing many atrocities in the Greek lands. At the current moment, they are holding desperately onto position around Thessaloniki and the Peloponnesus [another front]. Since the utter defeat of the Bulgarian people, Greece is convinced that the Turks are bent on recreating the Ottoman Empire, and as a nation, Greece would have to disappear. But His Majesty King George II vehemently decries the attempts to destroy the Greek nation "futile and altogether barbaric" since the Greek people are proud of their nation, and they do whatever they can to preserve that nation against the hostile, belligerent forces of the infidel Turks. We request aid from any other Greek allies, seeing as no nation in Europe is safe from the expansionist policies of the Turkish people.

{AND NOW FROM MY KINGDOM OF EGYPT}

HM Farouk I, King of Egypt, has authorized an expeditionary force* to Iraq, to assist in maintaining order and stability against rebel forces. HM also wishes to ensure the safety of HM Faisal II, the regent king of Iraq, and offers the royal family safe haven in Egypt until the crisis is over. We would further encourage other nations to cease interfering in the affairs of Arab states.

* [One division, consisting of 3 infantry regiments (2 mechanized), 1 cavalry regiment, 4 artillery batteries, and some air support.]

To HM Farouk I,
Turkish soldiers are currently moving into Iraq to ensure stability as well as free democratic elections, something the king did not allow. Egyptian soldiers are welcome to join us to ensure that these democratice measures are carried out peacefully
Sincerely,
Ismet Inonu

HM Farouk wishes to state that this force is not to combat Turkish units; only the rebels. That said, any Turks who are killed incidentally in our combat with the rebels shall be consider foreign combatants, joining in with the insurrection against King Faisal II. We do not consider them to be Turkish soldiers and they will be branded as such if captured.

Furthermore, we respect Turkey's stance on democracy, but seeing as Egypt has no value for such a system, we strongly encourage your nation to forgo imposing another form of government upon a country that does not desire it. By aiding rebels, you clearly show an attempt to overthrow the government for a form or system likeable to your country, and it is most deplorable to see the Turks attempt to impose their will on the Arab people.

To HM Farouk,
Turkish soldiers are aiding democratice rebels, not a facist group. Furthermore, seeing the amount of rebellion, it would seem as if many people are willing to fight for democracy. any intentional action against Turkish soldiers or members of the Arab Legio will be seen as a hostile act, and seeing Turkey's strength in Iraq (5 divisions) it would not be wise for Egypt to make such a move

Again, we do not intend to attack Turkish troops. If Turkish troops are in Iraq to maintain peace and order in the country, that would be most acceptable. Our point is that any nationals found to be conspiring with rebels will be treated as rebels. Turkish soldiers have no place in a rebellion that is in another country. Iraq is its own nation, and therefore Turkey should support the nation of Iraq. HM Faisal II is just a young child, and it does no good to have rebels in the country. It might scar his mind, to see the insecurity of his people, and we do not wish him to become unstable in life. Therefore, Turkey should do all that it can to support the government of Iraq. If their forces are in Iraq to support peace and order, they will not be in our way.

We hope that Turkey realizes that our two governments are by nature allied in Iraq, for we seek peace and order of the country, to restore the government's control. We do not care for the matters of "democracy" for it is the ideal of the governments in Britain and France - while valuable friends, we do not wish to emulate their governments to become like them.

The pan-Mediteranean Treaty (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10498948#post10498948) is being hosted in Venice and anyone and everyone is asked to apply to join. Some I have already included (Spain and Turkey) they may still withdraw their membership.

Italian Spokesman, Rome:

Malta has forever been a place for the worst to come and escape. To often the lax officials there have made a location for escaped convicts to go free. They have also oppressed the Italian poplance while pretending to act as the "Law and Order". I tell you, their Law and Order is no Law and Order. In Malta there is none except military installations which as you know will attack anyone and everyone the British feel do not go with their miss-guided ideals. That is not something a respectable criminal would do, declare their ideas for peace yet keep military installations armed and ready. Who is at fault, criminals are people wanting to help their kinsmen? So I ask, the British shall give up Malta or watch their installation be cut off and starved!

Turkey will support the Iraq that helps the people, not just the upper class. Furthermore, if King Faisal is just a child, what does he know of ruling a nation? People choosing their leader is better and allows for the people's views to be held. Turkey will hold democratic elections in Iraq, whether Egypt supports us or not

The pan-Mediteranean Treaty (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10498948#post10498948) is being hosted in Venice and anyone and everyone is asked to apply to join. Some I have already included (Spain and Turkey) they may still withdraw their membership.

Italian Spokesman, Rome:

Malta has forever been a place for the worst to come and escape. To often the lax officials there have made a location for escaped convicts to go free. They have also oppressed the Italian poplance while pretending to act as the "Law and Order". I tell you, their Law and Order is no Law and Order. In Malta there is none except military installations which as you know will attack anyone and everyone the British feel do not go with their miss-guided ideals. That is not something a respectable criminal would do, declare their ideas for peace yet keep military installations armed and ready. Who is at fault, criminals are people wanting to help their kinsmen? So I ask, the British shall give up Malta or watch their installation be cut off and starved!

Reply from Franklin Roosevelt, President of the United States of America.

"Actions taken by several European nations as of late have become little more than an international case of ganging up on our friends, the British. Besieged from many sides, they have faced down threat after threat boldly, with the dignity appropriate to a world power. A nation of peace. A nation of justice. The British crown now must take up arms in its own defense and in the defense of the people of England and associated provinces.

As of this date today, I have personally approved the deployment of the 1st and 2nd B-17 bomber squadrons to England. Further, the United States 9th Atlantic Fleet will be sent to England for a tour of the country.

We denounce the actions of Italy and her allies, and we warn that highway robber, that international banditry will not go unpunished."

Turkey will support the Iraq that helps the people, not just the upper class. Furthermore, if King Faisal is just a child, what does he know of ruling a nation? People choosing their leader is better and allows for the people's views to be held. Turkey will hold democratic elections in Iraq, whether Egypt supports us or not

[ooc: there was a regency in Iraq...]

If Turkey imposes their form of government on the Iraqi people, they will find more foes than friends.

Furthermore HM government announces the completion of the upgrade of the armed forces to 75000, and HM Farouk announces the upgrade further of the armed forces, to 150000 by the end of the year.

[on behalf of NPC Greece]

HM George II, from his quarters in London, again requests the UK and France intervene in Greece, against the rampaging armies of Turkey. Even while the brave Greeks would hold their line, it would mean nothing if the world ignored it all. He asked the Parliament for a moment to speak to them on the plight in Greece, and to implore them to intervene in Greece on the side of truth and justice.

Turkey doubts many people would be angry at the ability to decide on their rulers

HM Farouk invites all Arabic nations to come to Cairo for Pan-Arabic conference!

As fellow Arabic nations, we must stay together and avoid the plagues of the war in Europe, so that we may all prosper together!

[thread is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10500089)]

OOC: yes, I am attacking Germany...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10485107#post10485107

Spain, I meant don't post on other parts of the war in the specific war threads, like the western front one I made, thats all. And I thought if Britain owned Gibralter he owned the other side of the straits.

ok, is Italy trying to make peace with me, or just Britain, or not at all?

And yes, Tunisia is mine and I don't like you claiming to take it.

IC: France condemns the moves made by belligerant countries. The full mobilization of French troops is nearing completion and all troops should be deployed within the month.

In addition to those troops already attacking Germany, 30 new divisions are being sent to the western front. 20 divisions are being sent to the border with italy and 10 divisions are being sent to the Spanish pyrennees border.

The Turkish parliament announced today the creation of the Greater Turkish Republic (GTR). the GTR would include: Bulgaria, Turkey, Kurdistan (semi-autonomy), and Greece (when the war is over), as well as any other nation that may wish to join us. All citizens in the GTR would be given freedom of religion, freedom of speech and press, right to vote, as well as other privileges. GTR also announced the reforming of the army, which would include: 74 divisions, broken down into:
8 Armored
18 Mechanized
42 Infantry
2 Paratrooper
2 Marine
2 Mountain
The GTR has also issued a warning that attacks on Iraqi rebels will not be tolerated. To enhance this, the GTR has issued temporary citenzenship to all Iraqi rebels as well as anyone who wishes it (the Kurdistan region and the rebels there are Iraqi citizens). Turkish troops have also liberated Baghdad and rebel forces hold most of the important cities

In addition to those troops already attacking Germany, 30 new divisions are being sent to the western front. 20 divisions are being sent to the border with italy and 10 divisions are being sent to the Spanish pyrennees border.

Spain condemns the movement of French troops to the Pyrenees' border. Our nations are not at war, there is simply no reason to send troops to the Spanish border. We demand that French forces withdraw from the border, or we will take it as a declaration of war. All we see is a French troop preparation for an invasion of Spain. The Spanish government, in response, sends twenty fifteen divisions to the French border in order to ward off the possibility of a French attack.

Once again, withdraw your forces now, or you will have to use them in war - against Spain. With France already fighting on two fronts, we do not fear battling the French army.

Sincerely,

---The High Command of the Spanish Armed Forces---

[on the behlaf of NPC Greece]
The Turkish parliament announced today the creation of the Greater Turkish Republic (GTR). the GTR would include: Bulgaria, Turkey, Kurdistan (semi-autonomy), and Greece (when the war is over), as well as any other nation that may wish to join us. All citizens in the GTR would be given freedom of religion, freedom of speech and press, right to vote, as well as other privileges. GTR also announced the reforming of the army, which would include: 74 divisions, broken down into:
8 Armored
18 Mechanized
42 Infantry
2 Paratrooper
2 Marine
2 Mountain
The GTR has also issued a warning that attacks on Iraqi rebels will not be tolerated. To enhance this, the GTR has issued temporary citenzenship to all Iraqi rebels as well as anyone who wishes it (the Kurdistan region and the rebels there are Iraqi citizens). Turkish troops have also liberated Baghdad and rebel forces hold most of the important cities

HM George II decries the GTR as an obvious ploy to re-establish the old Ottoman Empire, and warns Britain and France that the Middle would fall under a pro-German/pro-Italian regime, cutting out oil supplies from that region. He also protests the indiscriminate killing and arrests of his citizens at the hands of brutal and barbaric Turks, observing with disdain as his country falls into disarray. He has furthermore called for Greeks everywhere to resist the Turks wherever they can be found.

[ooc: you do realize how many people constitute 74 divisions... that's well over 4mil going on the old rule...

old rule=
10 men = 1 squad
5 squad = 1 platoon
5 platoon = 1 company
5 companies = 1 battalion
4 battalion = 1 regiment
4 regiment = 1 brigade
3 brigade = 1 division

74 div. = 4440000 men

if you guys aren't using the old rule, tell me what rule you're using...]

OOC: I'm using 10,000 men per division, which is 740,000 men altogther. This allows me to have more divisions and greater mobility.

IC: the GTR responds that the oil in the Middle East is open to any nation, and the recent military deal with Britain should show that Turkey will deal with any nation

OOC: I'm using 10,000 men per division, which is 740,000 men altogther. This allows me to have more divisions and greater mobility.

IC: the GTR responds that the oil in the Middle East is open to any nation, and the recent military deal with Britain should show that Turkey will deal with any nation

[ooc: That sounds more like a regiment size...but oh well...it's not my military...]

OOC: 740,000 is the number of troops recruited, many still needed to be trained and whatnot.
IC: the GTR is commited to helping the oppressed Iraqi people, and since Kurdistan has been officially annexed, then all kurdish rebels are technically Turkish soldiers, and many rebels have requested citizenship as well.

The acquisition of Kurdistan is a direct attack on the regime of the Iraqi government! On the behalf of HM King Faisal II, we urge the world condemn this act as Iraq is now under attack by Turkish forces around the entire country!

The GTR urges the world to condemn King Faisal for oppressing his people and not letting them decide on their ruler

The GTR urges the world to condemn King Faisal for oppressing his people and not letting them decide on their ruler

[ooc: if you're talking like that, you should talk to Britain...

and just a reminder that most Arabic states are against having a democratic form of government, because it resembles the government of the West...furthermore you're taking the cultural perspective out...Arabs hated the Turks - and some still hate them today - because of the Ottoman Empire...and the revolts are for democracy in Iraq, but rather for the establishment of a non-British mandate royalty - a pure Arabic caliph...please remember that "democracy" was not the "cool" thing in 1939, but rather fascism...Turkey would not have wanted to support Arab rebels that wanted a pure Arabic caliph, and they would have rather followed the German and Italian example by attempting to re-establish the old Ottoman Empire...WWII was a nationalist war, pitting the German/Italian nationalist fervors against the rest of the world...appealing to democracy in 1939 is not going to work very well...]

[ooc: if you're talking like that, you should talk to Britain...

and just a reminder that most Arabic states are against having a democratic form of government, because it resembles the government of the West...furthermore you're taking the cultural perspective out...Arabs hated the Turks - and some still hate them today - because of the Ottoman Empire...and the revolts are for democracy in Iraq, but rather for the establishment of a non-British mandate royalty - a pure Arabic caliph...please remember that "democracy" was not the "cool" thing in 1939, but rather fascism...Turkey would not have wanted to support Arab rebels that wanted a pure Arabic caliph, and they would have rather followed the German and Italian example by attempting to re-establish the old Ottoman Empire...WWII was a nationalist war, pitting the German/Italian nationalist fervors against the rest of the world...appealing to democracy in 1939 is not going to work very well...]

eh.... I'm gpoing off the beaten path a little. I'm sure that Kurdistan would still want some measure of freedom, and I'm supporting rebels, I'm sure that some of them hate me but they can be taken care of later

OOC/IC/Whatever: Spain, forgive me for being suspicious, but you did just sign an alliance with a country I am at war with - yeah.

And Turkey, Iraq belongs to Britain so you would have to be at war with the Allies to take Baghdad. Syria is mine and none others.

France backs up Egypt's calls for peace in the middle east.

And do we still even have a Germany and Britain to fight back?

[on the behalf of NPC Greece]

With the exception in the surrounding country around Thessaloniki, the Greek army has collasped under the pressure from the Ottoman Turks. HM George II was utterly upset when he learned that some of the British industry had helped the Turks overrun his country Hurricanes...]. He threw a furious fit at Parliament as he awaited to hear on his status to speak before Parliament. He vowed to strike a powerful vengance on the Turks, who add to their many years of oppression of the Greek people.

[ooc: That sounds more like a regiment size...but oh well...it's not my military...]

Britian uses that system, are at least did.

IC:
Also, Italy asks for all Greek troops to give-up and invades Greece with almost no resistance and annexes Greece territory of Kerkyra, Igoumenitsa, Ioannina, and other territories stretching up to Mount Olympus and back to Macedonia, Mount Olympus will be Turkien and the Italian goverment hopes that Turkey will abide by the territory exchange.

oh hell no.... just kidding, i think. I believe that the territories you invaded were mine at the time. As for Iraq, it was granted independance in 1932 and Britain set up a king in the country, so I'm not invading British territory. Syria is a french mandate, and several revolts were bloodily supressed in there

OOC/IC/Whatever: Spain, forgive me for being suspicious, but you did just sign an alliance with a country I am at war with - yeah.

The Spanish government did not sign any alliance with anyone. We expressed interest in doing so, but we never officially sign anything.

Therefore, France, withdraw your troops from the Pyrennees or else we will sign that alliance and attack those same soldiers on our border.

I'll play as neutral Iran

French troops will pull back from areas near the Spanish border but all 10 divisions will stay within 100 miles of the border. France has every right to post troops within its own border and no other country can say anything about it unless they present an obvious threat.

OOC: Spain does not have 25 divisions to post on the French border, no way in the world.

OOC: Spain does not have 25 divisions to post on the French border, no way in the world.

Lets leave that to a more third party player before starting the condemnation...

French troops will pull back from areas near the Spanish border but all 10 divisions will stay within 100 miles of the border. France has every right to post troops within its own border and no other country can say anything about it unless they present an obvious threat.

OOC: Spain does not have 25 divisions to post on the French border, no way in the world.


Where have I said 25 divisions?

it depends on division size i think. If Spain is following unit size more like mine, then it might be possible, but if he's following the more standard units of the time (15,000?) then it would be difficult. In the future I think that everyone should post unit size and draft stuff so we're all aware

well, he actually said he is sending twenty fifteen divisions to the border, whatever that means. Yeah, I guess it depends on the division size.

[ooc: seems to me that the only war going on here just ended...]

HM George II of Greece has once again sent his pleas to the French and British governments for the destruction of the Turkish armies laying oppression to his people.

[ooc: seems to me that the only war going on here just ended...]

HM George II of Greece has once again sent his pleas to the French and British governments for the destruction of the Turkish armies laying oppression to his people.

And Italian!