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Note: This is not another "ooh look at me I'm making a WWII thread because I'm unoriginal!" thread. This is because the previous WWII threads that I joined (which may have qualified for that title) were created by players who never seem to be active. I once created a thread like this a long time ago (over a year in fact...) and it was great fun, so I figured I'd give it another go.

The year is 1939, the date: September 1st. The Great War is underway. The German invasion of Poland has begun and Manchuria is firmly under Japanese occupation. Tensions are high and the Axis have formed their alliance. The war is now in your hands...

This is the start, where the road is paved and ready for new assaults, wars, and technology to come forth. Here you will take control of a nation involved in the conflict. Here you will have a chance to do things the real Mussolini, Hitler or Churchill failed to think of. Lead your troops to great victory, plan your own offensives, even bring about a switch in allegience! Imagine the destruction if the United Kingdom refused to aid Poland, or if Spain declared itself an open member of the Axis movement and invaded France alongside Germany. Imagine what would happen if Russia invaded Japan before Pearl Harbor began, or if Turkey launched a invasion to crush all of Africa? It is here that you can play out such dreams, to create an alternate history alongside others.

I MUST STRESS that you do NOT let your knowledge of how WW2 actually played out to influence your ingame decisions.

Please remain mature, roleplaying experience on these forums is preferred, but show me good grammar, an understanding of what roleplaying is, and intelligence, and I will most likely let you in. Knowledge of WWII history is also preferred, necessary in fact. Research facts before you just jump to a conclusion about what is going on. Make sure you know what you are talking about. And above all, remember, you are roleplaying a real person who had real beliefs, Roosevelt would have never up and decided that National Socialism was the way to go. In fact, it would be an insult to Roosevelt's pride and honour if you had him join the Axis Nations. Keep it realistic, and remember, there is nothing wrong with bringing a nation in before it was brought in during reality. This is going to be our game, not a history lesson.

I have only included the larger nations in the list, if you want anything smaller (like Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mongolia, etc etc etc.) then please ask me and I'll add it to the list.


Active Nations

Allied Nations:
United Kingdom - Nevadski
France - Titicus
Canada -
Australia & New Zealand -
Poland - Madneastan
Egypt - Naktan


Axis Nations:
Germany - Ollieland
Japan - Tenarius
Italy - Moorington


Neutral Nations:
United States - The Xeno
U.S.S.R. - True IRA
Ireland - Drexel Hillsville
Norway - Lengastan
Mexico - Truitt
Turkey - Haneastic
Portugal - Lachenburg
Spain - Piemonte-Sardegna
Brazil - West Pacific
Luxembourg - Toops
Saudi Arabia - Bobersky


Unassigned Nations:

American Nations:
N/A


European Nations:
Romania
Sweden
Denmark
Finland
Albania
Greece
Bulgaria
Belgium
Switzerland
Netherlands
Hungary
Yugoslavia


Asian/Pacific Rim Nations:
Thailand
Mongolia


African/Middle Eastern Nations:
Iraq
Iran
South Africa


IC Threads:
(Non-War IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469244))
(Mexican News and Events Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10447849#post10447849))
(Italian News Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10453065&posted=1#post10453065))
(Balkan WW2 thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10469803#post10469803)
(French WW2 thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470088))
(Eire WWII thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470215))
(WWII - Official USA Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470275))
(Sino-Japanese War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470313))
(The Polish Campaign (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10480431))
(The Axis Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10483041))
(The Western Front (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10485107#post10485107))
(Pan-Mediterannean Treaty (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10498948#post10498948))

Bump.

I'll play as nuetral Ireland

I'd be glad to have you. :O

Total Bumpage.

Hello Tenarius, I would be honoured to take part part in this RP. I would like to take the part of Germany if that is not taken already. If you have one set up please give me the link of the active RP thread as, i think I have mentioned previously, my IT skills are rather limited. Thank you

Hey Ollie, great to have you back. =)

Germany is approved. I haven't quite started the Non-War IC thread as of yet, but I'll get around to it in a little bit.

I would like to play as Hungary. I've done a couple of WWI/II RPs before and I have managed to never play a major power (with Canada being the nearest thing to a 'power' I've ever done) and I am starting to like it, I also don't want to deal with a navy...

I'd love to have you Pudu. Hungary would be approved.

I don't suppose anybody has a site with detailed information on the Japanese Army Air Service and Naval Air Service? I can find overall numbers of Fighters/Bombers/Scouts etc. but no information on the number of specific plane types. If I don't find something by the time IC starts, I'll have to make something up. =/

Actually, the same goes for the number/types of vehicles deployed by the IJA. I have found detailed information on WW2 era IJA equipment and vehicles, but still nothing on the numbers fielded by the IJA during 1939. Way too specific for the internet methinks, lol.

EDIT: Also, I had placed Hungary as Neutral under the old thread, so that's what I put it under here. Please correct me if I am wrong...I know very little about the Eastern European front.

OOC: Well, If we need somebody to I'm willing to play as any of the Allied Nations.

(OOC: I don't think it's necessary, thanks for offering though.

If we have a real shortage of players, I'll offer players the opportunity to play two nations instead of one.)

I would like to participate in this rp as U.S.S.R, if it is not takin, and i would like to join the allies.

You're welcome to join the U.S.S.R., though remember that at this time the U.S.S.R. was a neutral nation, and IRL it invaded Poland on Sep 17, seizing splitting it with Germany half and half. You don't need to be allied. For the moment I'll put you there though. Lemme know if you change your mind.

Bump.

One last bump for awhile.

Totally gonna go to bed, but one last Bump for style. =)

P.S. Opened the Non-War IC Thread here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469244

Try not to go into anything major until we get the major nations filled up though. Italy, Britain, France and Poland are the big ones we really need at the moment. The USA is pretty optional this early on.

I would like to take on the Role of USA in this Rp.

i would join as Yugoslavia. I love Tito's leadership during WWII.

(OOC: Just keep in mind that if you go inactive and somebody active comes in and wants the nation, you could lose it. A friendly reminder. =)

Accepted.)

Total Bumpage.

Bump.

Total Bumpage.

I would like to take Canada please...

You're welcome to join the U.S.S.R., though remember that at this time the U.S.S.R. was a neutral nation, and IRL it invaded Poland on Sep 17, seizing splitting it with Germany half and half. You don't need to be allied. For the moment I'll put you there though. Lemme know if you change your mind.
A strong point, so i think i will be a neutral nation until further notice,
I am sorry for the Inconvenience.

Neutral U.S.S.R. and Allied Canada are confirmed. =)

I want to thank you for the change and good luck when the rp begins.

This is totally Tenarius, just wanted to say you're welcome and thank you respectively. Also, if you wanted to do a few small RPing things to get yourself up and running, I did start the Non-Warbased IC thread (see the first post for a link) lastnight. Threw up a first post to declare Japan's current status as well.

Somebody please remind me to NEVER pick Ireland again. I can't find their military numbers during WWII. I found their President and Prime Minister but that's it!

Feel free to change if you like.

Nah, I'll just wing it with in reason. no more then 100,thousand i would think. Besides they would be a push over no matter what. I do however have some ideas for using the IRA.

Sounds sensible...o0o IRA...The Gestapo...Oss.. :)

bump

I basically had to 'wing it' with the Japanese Army and Air Service numbers. I found numbers for 1932-1937 and 1940-1945, but nothing inbetween. Had to use actual math to figure out an average of what I was supposed to have. =(

That was totally me, FYI.

Total Bumpage.

Also, since I forgot to say it before, I'm completely okay with 100,000 troops for Ireland. Not very powerful, but not so weak that you find yourself without the ability to defend yourself. (*coughnetherlandscough*)

I am going to take part in this Rp, some of you should consider joining my squad based WW2 Rp...

I glanced at it, but decided I didn't have the time to take part in that one as well.

o well, it's always on option :)

Total Bumpage.

Hiyeah Ten., nice to see you on Jolt. Since you mentioned it in your TG to me, how about The Federated States of Mexico?

i like the UK

Is this still open? If so could I be Italy? It would be interesting to see if competent action by Mussolini would have changed anything. Good to see you Truitt, to bad 2010 didn't work out.

Mexico and the United Kingdom and Italia. Now we're going somewhere.

All three confirmed.

And this RP is likely to be always open, I highly doubt every position will be filled by active players any time soon. Good to see all of you here. =)

I'd like Turkey please

Turkey can be arranged.

Nice to see you too, Moorington, and yeah, Earth 2010 would have been pretty cool if it got off the ground. Lets hope this one has a better trial than my past experiances.

I just posted on the IC Non-War Thread, a report to the League of Nations. I hope this is not over-the top, as in WW2 Mexico is changed from what I know of WW1 Mexico.

I don't really see anything over the top about it. Looks all good to me, though if other people have any complaints they'll have to to voice them. :P

Well, would anyone here mind if I made a topic souly deidcated to Mexico and its affairs, changes, economic status, and what not. This'll include my diplomacy and armed stuff, too.

I wouldn't mind, it'll keep the Non-War IC thread less cluttered. =)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10447849#post10447849

Mexican News and Events Thread ["The Great War" RP] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10447849#post10447849)

The Mexican News and Events Thread["The Great War" RP] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....9#post10447849) will be added to the list of IC threads posthaste. =)

I would be willing to take Belgium, Switzerland and the Netherlands from you :)

I suppose the only question there is whether or not you'll remain active while controlling three nations, though Netherlands will undoubtedly fall quickly even with aid. Switzerland's only hope would be bribes, and Belgium could put up a fight if the French got off their asses and fought like men for a change. (As if. ;))

Too true, too true...;)

Adding you then, good luck and please stay active. D:

I suppose the only question there is whether or not you'll remain active while controlling three nations, though Netherlands will undoubtedly fall quickly even with aid. Switzerland's only hope would be bribes, and Belgium could put up a fight if the French got off their asses and fought like men for a change. (As if. ;))

Who says I'll threaten the Netherlands? You should know from last time that i like to take the historical turn of events and turn them upside down ;)

I'll be active at night. Viel Dank.

Who says I'll threaten the Netherlands? You should know from last time that i like to take the historical turn of events and turn them upside down ;)

That's a very, very good point Ollie. ;D

So, guys, feel free to start posting any time. Probably can't do much in the way of war without Poland, but we could always see if anybody is interested in playing the losers. ;)

Total Bumpage.

South Africa

That can be arranged.

Total Bumpage.

I have plans for South Africa.

Total Bumpage.

I'll take Portugal off your hands if you don't mind.

Tenarius in case you were wondering, none of the eastern european powers joined the axis until germany began to move down into the balkns, or offered them land/power

Ollieland TG for you

My News/Diplomacy Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10453065&posted=1#post10453065)

can NS states join in?

Nope, I would like another nation but sadly you have to pick a real worl dnation and shape it from there.

I'm aware that none of the eastern europeans joined the Axis until later, though I thank you for trying to clarify things. Technically I'm stretching things by placing Japan in the Axis nations due to the fact that the Tripartite pact has yet to be signed. I only placed it there because the 'Axis' nations (who technically don't really exist yet) were allied at the time (or at least Japan and Germany, never really seen any documentation as to Italy and Japan's relationship...that'd be a thing to look for.)


I still wonder, has anybody found any information on the number of vehicles produced by the Japanese up to 1939? I've found the types of vehicles, but only a couple of them had the Number Produced and their Production Dates.


Adding Moorington's News Thread, adding Portugal.


Does anybody wanna volunteer to take over Poland until we've got an active player who might be interested in playing it full-time? Or France? Those are the two big ones we're missing.

One more question for the road: Do we want to set up an established passage of time (such as 1 RL day = 1 IC week) to keep things organized? The only problem with the last thread was that people had a lot of complaints with how quickly/slowly time was progressing, and nobody really agreed as to how time passed.

I'm fine with any time thing, and I'd be willing to play temporarily as one or the other, though my position might bias me slightly. The Japanese didn't produce a lot of tanks at all during the war, they had "tankettes", which were puny but they relied on aircraft and infantry for the most part (because they fought in terrain that tanks cou;dn't survive on), although the did have some. I'd say something like 150-200 tanks, 300-500 armored cars, and lots of trucks and jeeps

I don't like that idea that much because, well if some one's computer crashes or somthing then what?

you mean if you have 2 different accounts, to play as an actual nation? as long as you're playing an actual nation, not a made up one it seems fine

Huh? I meant the time passage thing.

Well this has gotten somewhat muddled, but this is how I see it. You must use a nation circa:1939. The best way to do this is 1 day equels one week, so this will hopefully last long and we can slow it down for special occaions.

Well, I think that every week should be 2 days, with the exception of war time having it accelerate or decelerate depending on the agressor and defender agreeing. That should be a nice idea.

Sorry about lack of responsage, been sidetracked.

As for those numbers, I've just found a few sites that quote numbers much larger than several hundred (the Type 97 Chi-Ro Medium Tank commissioned in 1937 had a production number somewhere around 3,000 during the war. Most of the numbers I've seen are continually over 1,000. I'll keep doing more research and some extrapolation to come up with an estimated figure.)

As for the RL:IC time ratio, I'm definitely in favour of a slower one as opposed to a faster one, though really it depends on what the majority wants. A slower passage of time means a slower game, it's also better for players who aren't as active as some.

Tenarius, if no one wants to be France or Poland, we could just start after the defeat of France and Poland

Well, I am surprised no one has taken notice to my civil war (hint to Moorington, Ten., and who claimed Germany) as the uprising group is pro-American, and the ruling party is near fascism, but still is slightly democratic.

Anyways....what ever time you guys pick is fine, but for war, I believe that the aggressors/defenders get to choose, since most wars will be in groups anyways (bound to be with this kind of RP).

I haven't exactly decided what to do about your little Civil War just yet. Probably offer some kind of aid to the legitamite government under the pretense of maintaining peace and order in the world.

I think we're already a bit too far started to switch times all of a sudden. Might be a better idea to just have somebody volunteer to take one of them. I'd be willing to take Poland I suppose, I've found plenty of information on Polish numbers in 1939. They had a fairly impressive army size when it came to infantry and artillery, but they had almost no tanks to speak of (only 2 divisions, where Germany had I believe over 40 on the eastern front.)

I would play as France but, as usual, I would surrender everything...stupid French :-P

Anyways, as to your thing with Mexico, I would not mind obtaining technology in some naval technology, and in return, I use that tech and my OOC knowledge of the time and design more efficant designs...maybe Japan can outsource to Mexico, such as USA to China?

I figured naval technology would be the biggy. I'm sure I could sell you a few older ships and designs for you to play around with in exchange for Oil. That's the big thing Japan really needs, we don't have any large sources of Oil. You seem to be lacking any decent planes, but I'm afraid my Zeroes are out of bounds even to my closest of allies. =P

Ah well, Zeros I can go without. I do not need aircraft, as my goal, well, my enemies don't have them either so....

But yeah, send over some ships in an economic/research partnership, and I'll see what I can do with the Gulf's oil.

Unassigned Nations:

American Nations:
Brazil


European Nations:
France
Italy
Slovakia
Poland
Romania
Sweden
Norway
Denmark
Finland
Albania
Greece
Bulgaria
Spain


Asian/Pacific Rim Nations:
Korea
Thailand
French Indochina
Singapore
Malaya
Mongolia
Burma
India
Australia & New Zealand


African/Middle Eastern Nations:
Morocco
Algeria
Tunisia
Libya
South Africa
Syria
Iraq
Palestine
Iran
Egypt
Saudi Arabia


All of the underlined nations didn't exist in WWII...

Slovakia was called Czechoslovakia

Korea was a colony of Japan

French Indochina, Algeria, Tunisia, and Syria were French colonies

Singapore, Malaya, Burma, India, and Palestine were all colonies of the UK...

The colonies were placed there on purpose...mostly to offer options if the thread filled up. Seeing as how that doesn't appear to be happening, I think I'll probably get rid of most of them.

I totally slipped up on Korea and Czechoslovakia though. I took this entire list of nations from an old WW3 thread, but didn't do a very good job of editing it. I was tired. :P


As for Tru - Posted in the IC Non-War thread with a TG to the allies and a TG to you. I can definitely look into sending a small-ish fleet of ships. The biggest problem is getting them TO the Gulf of Mexico, since I'd need the US's permission to use the Panama Canal without forcing my way in. I'll see what I can do about selling you some ships, helping you train decent naval crews and possibly getting you some spare aircraft. You say you don't need them because the enemy doesn't have aircraft...but that's the best time to have aircraft! Although I will remind you that Brazil had a small airforce during WW2. I'm sure we can come up with something IC. =)

Ollieland I'm still waiting on a response from you about my TG

Nice, nice. Anyways, as to my civil war, (since I am posting bad relations with a dictator in Central America named "Trujilo") I am planning on blamming the revolt on an other country's influence or something, at which I want to own the sea.

Ollieland I'm still waiting on a response from you about my TG

Ollie appears to be missing, which is a bit odd for him. I'll send a TG over and see if he gets it.

Technically, WWI was called the Great War before it became known as WWI after WWII. They called it that because they thought it was "the war to end all wars". Just feel like being a jerk :)

I will play as the ANZACS (Aus and NZland) if they are not already taken

Feel free to be a jerk, I don't mind. I wasn't arguing semantics, I just wanted to call it something OTHER than World War II. :P

ANZAC is accepted, hope you stay active. I need a rival. D:

Total Bumpage.

anyone wanna help me out a bunch and give me a basic economics report of pre ww-ii american military abilities?
i know the equipment and tactics pretty well, but id like a economic timeline of sorts so i can keep things real and on pace :D

Well, I'm in the middle of making dinner, but I'll see what I can find. What I do know is that the USA started preparing for war very soon after Hitler invaded Poland. Tensions between Japan and the US were also very high, which meant that the Navy was constantly preparing for a Japanese attack (though they continually denied the possibility that the Mitsubishi A6M Type 0 ("Zero") could exist, or that a long-range carrier attack on the Hawaiian ports would ever be feasible.)

I'm trying to find some stuff on the economics and military numbers, but not much so far. I'll update ASAP.

sorry but i have to give up Belgium, Switzerland, and the Netherlands. it has to do with a time-management thing. a thousand pardons.

you know wat, i hate to say this but this is actually the first forum rp ive done. So im really new at this and im afriad that I might mess this up or not be as detailed as I should, and for me to be as an important country as america. I dont this is feasible for me to take on such a responsibility. I would like to trade in usa for something much more low key, possible a small colony. I need advice :headbang:

I suppose I could play France for this rp - maybe some instant action, unlike other rp's

Well...you're more than welcome to do so.

I'd say the easiest "small" nations left are at the moment:

Norway, Sweden, Spain, Morocco, and Egypt. The other countries and british/french colonies are also available if you want to try them, but they are definitely for a more advanced and skilled player.

A shame, I had just found numbers for the Army in 1939. If we get a new America who would like to know...

227,000 soldiers for the Regular Army and 235,000 soldiers for the National Guard.

Yup, I rule. ;D

I suppose I could play France for this rp - maybe some instant action, unlike other rp's

THANK GOD! THANK YOU!

We've been looking for a France desperately. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase stay active! D;

Edit: I decided to take control of Poland. I'll roll up some stats so that Germany and whoever else can take a crack at them. If somebody shows up who wants Poland, they can take it off of me for...well, free. =D

Total Bumpage.

The American military seems a little big. I thought that the U.S army was smaller than Poland's in 1939, which is why a lot of people were afraid when Poland got crushed

I'll play as Norway if you don't mind. Those nasty Germans won't get us this time!:sniper:

I'm waiting on TG replies from 3 people (Doggaria don't bother responding since you've changed nations)

Well, keep in mind that the National Guard is basically just a reserve unit in this kind of war. Also keep in mind that Poland's military was actually quite large. I counted in the excess of 60 Infantry Divisions, though I'll have a more defined number. The thing that screwed Poland over was their lack of armoured divisions, and the lack of good artillery. The well-trained German blitzkrieg stomped all over them because of it.

Lengastan, Norway is accepted.

I think our France vanished, I'll probably remove him from the list if he doesn't post today.

I think the same could be said for our Britain...

here I am : France page: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10470190#post10470190

Added the French page for you.

ANYBODY WHO READS THIS: WE NEED A GREAT BRITAIN BADLY!

The United Kingdom player is in danger of being removed for gross inactivity. =/

I'll be the UK if you want.

Before I could say yes, how active are you and what credentials do you have? Activity is the most important thing I need.

I'm usually very active, but can't play from 8 o'clock to to about 4 during week days. Will that be a bother?

Not really, if you can post at least once a day--hell, even every couple of days--you'll probably be much better than the UK we're currently stuck with. You're in.

Could you put South Africa in the neutral section? Since I'm a declare my self free of Enlgand and neutral from allied or axis.

What should I do now then?

Argh. Japan is taken. =(

there are plenty of other nations to take, Poland or the U.S are big nations still needed to be taken

Okay, so can I just have a quick recap of whats going on at the moment? No big history lessons, just whose attacking who, wahats what etc.

okay, basically Germany has attacked Poland. You and France have a treaty with Poland to protect it, which involves declaring war on Germany. Germany has requested that you stay out of the war, and Japan i believe has declared they will not attack you at this time, and have withdrawn their forces near your colonies. No country has yet to be invaded (except Poland)

I could play the Poland. I just need a link to the thread conserning that war, or if it has not been created yet, detailed information about the current situation.

nothing has has happened yet, except Bulgaria's been invaded (i posted a reply to yours), and Poland's just about to go to war

I would like to be Spain, because someone already took possession of Italy.

out of curiosity, did either of you join because of my Balkan post?
greeting by the way

out of curiosity, did either of you join because of my Balkan post?
greeting by the way

I saw this signup earlier but didn't sign up because of I had to leave to have some RL. Your post reminded me of this RP so I did now what I didn't have time then.

out of curiosity, did either of you join because of my Balkan post?
greeting by the way

Well, you could say that, I just want to be more involved in a roleplaying war.

that's cool now we have a fill up of the most important nations, Tenarius should allow you in

that's cool now we have a fill up of the most important nations, Tenarius should allow you in


Good, that's good.

Fear the might of World War II Civil-War torn Spain!

there are plenty of other nations to take, Poland or the U.S are big nations still needed to be taken

According to the front page, the USA is taken. The guy hasn't made a post since though.. I'd imagine he 'ought to be booted for inactivity.

In that case, I'll make a claim for the USA.

Edit: Reading over it, the guy has made 4 posts total on the NS forums. And he also asked to trade the USA in for something else.

Thus.. see my next post.

Making an official claim for the USA. The former USA-player was/is inactive and gave it up anyway.

yea, Doggaria didn't want to play a large nation because he was new

I would like to claim Brazil if possible. I do not have a very extensive history on NS, in my early days I was a member of the NNA and was almost gobbled up by AMF, umm, fought a "War on Terror" which was promptly ended by the switch to Jolt and haven't RPed on NS that much since. I have quite a bit of experience in the WW's, W@W's and others similar to those. I think I have participated in..... five WW's and W@W's?

Anyways, I would like to Brazil or Finland, nations that are small and hopefully would not be fighting the war on a global scale.

this is awesome, now everyone is joining. now we can have a real global conflict

Not much going on at the moment, and by the way Canadius has practically declared war on considering hes going to attack my garrison in South Africa. But we'll see if he changes his mind.

I still need a reply for the message that I posted on the Non-war IC thread.
Plus I am working on the Irish WWII thread.

Drexel, Shermans aren't in the picture before '43. In 1939, Ireland had no armour.

Not much going on at the moment, and by the way Canadius has practically declared war on considering hes going to attack my garrison in South Africa. But we'll see if he changes his mind.

I think he's more trying to break away from Britain, but is willing to attack British troops if they don't withdraw in order to achieve his goal: an actual nation. Nevadski I'm waiting on a reply from my TG
as for the Shermans, i think they were built in 1942, since they were named Grizzlies up to 1943, but Ireland has a while to go, plus it all depends on how generous America is feeling, since they supply them
I think the tank you want is the Valentine tank

Eire WWII thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470215)

As for the armour I'll change that right now,

Damn it I can't type right now!

Declared War! Yes I know, it is a very bad postt and I will not get to do much with it till Friday (so please don't invade to much). Well we can have a "Phony War" for a little bit..

Hey Luxembourg still a possibility?

Wow, 5 new players and a change of affiliation for South Africa.

Welcome to ALL of you, all nations and requests are accepted. Enjoy the game, I hope you all stay active!

Toops - Luxembourg
Madneastan - Poland
Piemonte-Sardegna - Spain
The Xeno - United States
West Pacific - Brazil

South Africa to Neutral

Excellent. This is my official USA thread for the WWII RP. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470275

Hey Luxembourg still a possibility?
Luxemborg? seems like an odd choice

Luxemborg? seems like an odd choice


Luxembourg could always side with France or Germany, and be on whichever is the winner's side. That way Luxembourg could gain a pretty large slice of land at the expense of the defeated country.

Or at least, that's what I would do as Grand Duke of Luxembourg.

believe me, it would be hilarious to see a Luxemborg that is as big as say belgium or the netherlands, or even bigger. Either side could use it as a buffer zone between France and Germany

believe me, it would be hilarious to see a Luxemborg that is as big as say belgium or the netherlands, or even bigger. Either side could use it as a buffer zone between France and Germany


For the French, Belgium was always some sort of "buffer zone", but then again it never succeeded in stemming a German assault, has it? So what real help would Luxembourg be to France in this respect?

Luxemborg would be like Poland between France and Germany, created out of 2 nations, but easily crushed

Luxembourg's only hope is to side with whoever they think will win. OOC-wise, we know that Germany is likely to overtake Belgium almost effortlessly, and that Luxembourg would end up being nothing more than a single bump in the road to German victory. they could always try and stay neutral, but chances are good that either side would end up just invading them and using their territory anyway.

but could Germany take out Belgium effortlessly if they were attacking Poland and being atacked at the same time?

That really depends on the French.

I'm sorry, but I really have to call godmod on the Turkish player, I am looking through the Balkans thread and he is just destroying everyone. Turkey wasn't THAT good. Someone needs to slow him down and be the realism moderator there

I'll volunteer for the job, it is my thread after all.

I would like to join as Egypt... :)

Accepted, will add you in a bit. =)

In the meantime, feel free to post.

Well, it would appear that I have already hit a road bump, does anyone have any idea on the disposition of the Brazilian armed forces in 1939? Google hates me.

Hell, I have no clue. I wouldn't be offended if you made it up, I've had to 'wing it' with the number of vehicles available to the IJA.

Well, it would appear that I have already hit a road bump, does anyone have any idea on the disposition of the Brazilian armed forces in 1939? Google hates me.

http://www.defesa.ufjf.br/arq/Art%2015.htm

http://www.generals.dk/nation/Brazil.html

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/g_and_h_class_destroyer
Havant class

These six ships were ordered by the Brazilian Navy (Brazilian Navy: the brazilian navy (portuguese: marinha do brasil) is the navy of brazil....
[follow hyperlink for more...]) but on the outbreak of World War II (World War II: A war between the Allies (Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Iran, Iraq, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherl) they were requisitioned by the Royal Navy (Royal Navy: the royal navy of the united kingdom is the "senior service" of the armed services, being...
[follow hyperlink for more...]) . They are usually included with the H class.

Harvester, formerly Hardy, launched on 29 September 1939, sunk by U-432 on 11 March 1943
Havant, launched on 17 July 1939, damaged by air attack off Dunkirk (Dunkirk: A city in northern France on the North Sea where in World War II (1940) 330,000 Allied troops had to be evacuated from the beaches at Dunkirk in a desperate retreat under enemy fire) on 1 June 1940 and sunk by Saltash
Havelock, launched on 16 October 1939
Hesperus (Hesperus: more facts about this subject) , formerly Hearty, launched on 1 August 1939
Highlander, launched on 19 October 1939
Hurricane (Hurricane: more facts about this subject) , launched on 29 September 1939, sunk by U-415 on 24 December 1943


All of ths sites contain nominal info for the Brazilian military during WWII...didn't see any numbers though...

http://worldatwar.net/timeline/other/diplomacy39-45.html

Good for the diplomatic timescale if that really matters anymore...

Started a thread for the Sino-Japanese War.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470313

The Polish Campaign is underway

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10480431

Okay, lets have a breather here. This has gone into chaos. Tell them that it doesn't have to be Historical Correct and every goddamn nation who ever owned a gun starts declaring war on the nearest nation! Can we please have some sense here? There more to having a nation then declaring war.

like... fighting a war? personally, it seems a bit boring to join the thread, and then sit there for the entire game
sorry if the balkan campaign is going fast. I've never faced a non playing nation, so I'm not really sure how the tempo works. Turkey has a large army, many of them veterans from other wars, so I will slow down

Okay, lets have a breather here. This has gone into chaos. Tell them that it doesn't have to be Historical Correct and every goddamn nation who ever owned a gun starts declaring war on the nearest nation! Can we please have some sense here? There more to having a nation then declaring war.

I would agree...

can we get a fix on time for the game like now? because I've been moving very quickly, but it appears as if everyone wants to move slower. I'm okay with anything as long as we get it set so i can know how to move

I do agree, it is not necessary for every damn nation to declare war on everyone. We also need to set up an established passage of time and soon. My instinct tells me to go somewhere around 1-3 days for every IRL day.

Personally, I have no desire to declare war on everybody. I have declared war on China because it is historically accurate and I would like to spread my borders in that direction. I will NOT be declaring war on France, Britain, the U.S. or any of their allies any time soon, because:

A) It is unnecessary, I find the political and economic discussions and messages that will occur between Japan and these nations more interesting.
B) I'm not going to overstretch myself, I want to control more of China and draw more of its populace into the Nationalist dream of the United East Asia before I go to war with the colonies of the Western Powers.

What I am doing is not historically accurate per se, I have granted Free Religion to Manchukuo and eliminated the practice of Forced Military Prostitution. I've sent troops and ships to Mexico, in order to help them form a modern military and turn them into a Power that the Axis can use in their plans. What I have done is significantly different history-wise...but I believe that I have not strayed far out of character (if at all). Mind you, I wouldn't be offended if somebody mentioned that I had. I could be just fooling myself!

Anyway, my main concern at the moment is the passage of time...we need the passage of time to be set. Anywhere from 1ic:1rl days to 7ic:1rl days would be good for me.

P.S. Han, if you want somebody to play as your oponents, I might be able to volunteer. I'd just need to conjure up some information on the Greek/Bulgarian militaries.

I don't care if you play as Greece/Bulgaria, you can also monitor my progress to make sure I'm not going too fast or anything. I think it's more interesting that we have strayed completely off the track of actual history.

Tenarius, if you want to play as Bulgaria/greece, I had a thought that you might want to do something with Bulgarian communists, like the Sofia commune like Paris in 1871 or something like that

I don't know if I want to or not...just offering a suggestion if you'd rather go up against a real person.

I say a time passage of 1 RL to 1 IC

I personally like that ratio as it gives everybody a chance to do things.

NOW...

I have made a huge mistake! D:

I'm a few months early...and I got Mitsumasa's name wrong.

I thought his name was Mitsumama, but it is Mitsumasa. Furthermore, Mitsumama wasn't Prime Minister until 1940, at this time the Prime Minister's name is Nobuyuki Abe! I'm officially going back and editing all of my posts. =/

Axis conference thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10483041

Tenarius, unless you really want to RP Bulgaria/Greece, I'd just as soon ply it out myself. Either way, I'd suggest that you make sure I'm moving fairly

I'll definitely make sure you're moving fairly. =)

I have started a page for Brazil, it will double as a new thread and information on my military.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470385

France officially declares war on Germany, Italy, and South Africa.

In alliance with Britain (OOC: wherever he is)

A French and British offensive into Germany has begun while many German forces are commited in Poland. 77 divisions are committed.

Western Front Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10485107#post10485107

In addition, France has posted 14 divisions in the Alps in defensive positions against Italy.

Okay....this has gone out of hand. I know i;ve said this before and that this is alternate history but the idea that everyone in Europe but France has turned against me is not feasible! And South Africa is goddmoding.

Well great. Fine and peachy. Spain is attacking me for no reason whatsoever, everyone in Europe but France has declared war and America, the only country actually behaving right, isn't coming into war. Bloody brilliant.

so do something about it. You are the British - stop them.

by the way - I believe that Egypt - Naktan - is a commonwealth country and so should be fighting along with Britain. Along with Canada and Australia...

Well great. Fine and peachy. Spain is attacking me for no reason whatsoever, everyone in Europe but France has declared war and America, the only country actually behaving right, isn't coming into war. Bloody brilliant.

Whenever did Spain "attack you"? We have not declared war on you. However, we did ask that Britian return Gibraltar. That is all. Spanish troops did not even attack Gibraltar. But I understand what you are saying.

so do something about it. You are the British - stop them.

by the way - I believe that Egypt - Naktan - is a commonwealth country and so should be fighting along with Britain. Along with Canada and Australia...

Egypt may be a commonwealth country, but historically, the Egyptians did nothing during the whole war - even after Italy invaded them... but things might change...

South Africa, like India, Australia and Eygpt being a historically British colony, would never enter the war on the side of the Axis. Eh, sorry to critic. But it makes as much sense as Canada trying to declare war on the USA. There's too much history and dependence.

Edit: And there's no way in hell that South Africa is going to get an aircraft carrier before WWII even starts. They don't even have one today. Nor did they have 6 Battleships, 4 "Medium" Destroyers, 10 Cruisers (wtf is a "medium" destroyer?) and 1,000 fighter planes. When he says 200 bombers, I assume he means torpedo or dive bombers. Certainly not the big ones.

actually, the afrikaners in South Africa were very against British rule, as the Boer wars showed. however, british colonists sided more often with the British. being a colony means there is probably some resentment to outside rule, and there actually was an Indian army that fought with the japanese, although it wasn't very strong. luckily, we aren't going the historical way

actually, the afrikaners in South Africa were very against British rule, as the Boer wars showed. however, british colonists sided more often with the British. being a colony means there is probably some resentment to outside rule, and there actually was an Indian army that fought with the japanese, although it wasn't very strong. luckily, we aren't going the historical way

Boers and British are very different. You're implying that a Boer army managed to ransack the British garrison...the only way that I could even remotely see this is if the British soldiers committed mutiny...in which case, you'd still have infighting in South Africa, because you'd have three factions instead of two - the mutiny, the Boers, and the British... and I'd have remark that South Africa is perhaps acting beyond reason here, because not only did they manage to defeat British forces in their own country, but it seems that they're making progress outside of their country, which is quite outstanding for an ill-equipped army with little actual aid coming from Japan or Germany...but if you insist on moving things that way, we can accommodate that...

The Union of South Africa

Ground Forces
The main uniform is a khaki uniform with a Mk1 helmet. The main ground troops carries the Lee-Enfield rifle. While the officers carries a Enfield revolver. Some of the men carry Bren, Sten, and .50 caliber machine gun. All men carry two No 1 Grenades. In the supplies they carry rations, shovel, bayonet, ammo, etc. The main force is divided into three divisions.

South African 1st Infantry Division

I South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Duke of Edinburgh's Own Rifles
1st Royal Natal Carabineers
1st Transvaal Scottish
II South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Cape Town Highlanders
1st Natal Mounted Rifles
1st/2nd Field Force Battalion
III South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Imperial Light Horse
1st Rand Light Infantry
1st Royal Durban Light Infantry
3rd South African Armoured Car Reconnaissance Regiment
One Machine Gun Batallion, consisting of:
B Company, Die Middellandse Regiment
Regiment President Steyn
Field Artillery Regiments:
1st Field Regiment, Cape Field Artillery, South African Artillery
4th Field Regiment, South African Artillery
7th Field Regiment, South African Artillery
1st Light Anti-aircraft Regiment, South African Artillery
1st Anti-tank Regiment, South African Artillery


South African 2nd Infantry Division

III South African Infantry Brigade:
1st Imperial Light Horse
1st Rand Light Infantry
1st Royal Durban Light Infantry
IV South African Infantry Brigade:
2nd Royal Durban Light Infantry
The Kaffrarian Rifles
Umvoti Mounted Rifles
VI South African Infantry Brigade:
1st South African Police
2nd South African Police
2nd Transvaal Scottish
7th South African Reconnaissance Battalion
Machine Gun Unit:
Die Middellandse Regiment
Field Artillery Regiments:
1st Field Regiment, Cape Field Artillery, South African Artillery
2nd Field Regiment, Natal Field Artillery, South African Artillery
3rd Field Regiment, Transvaal Horse Artillery, South African Artillery
2nd Light Anti-aircraft Regiment, South African Artillery
2nd Anti-tank Regiment, South African Artillery

South African 3rd Infantry Division (Home Division)

South African 6th Armoured Division

Total Man Force: 120,000

Seaway Forces
6 Battleships
4 Medium Destroyers
10 Cruisers
2 Submarines
1 Aircraft Carrier
100,000 Navy men

Air Forces
2 Wings
200 bombers
1,000 planes
31,000 pilots

Total men in Military: 251,000

[ooc: BTW those are British stats...not South African...]

actually, the afrikaners in South Africa were very against British rule, as the Boer wars showed. however, british colonists sided more often with the British. being a colony means there is probably some resentment to outside rule, and there actually was an Indian army that fought with the japanese, although it wasn't very strong. luckily, we aren't going the historical way

Please note my edit.

yea... i was kind of wondering how the rebels could get that big an army.... i'd say that the army is probably more on the dot then the others, the navy was predominantly english. South Africa only qwon because Nevadski didn't do anything about it, didn't RP when Canadstein asked him to

Thats another thing, goddmoding. South Africa didn't create a thread for Gaborone so how was I suppose to defend? Or was i suppose to do it on the "Non-War" thread?!

i'm not sure, I think he posted something here. It shouldn't be a problem though, just alert Tenarius, and he'll try to sort everything out for you. I'd say any forces in Transvaal, Orange Free State, and many of the more rural areas are rebels. The cities, and provinces like Cape Town were more British, and then navy was overwhelmingly british

I quit because of all the complaining. Anyways this rp was going nowhere.

I quit because of all the complaining. Anyways this rp was going nowhere.

The RPing is going forward nicely. And well, there were complaints because you didn't do appropriate research, and ended up cheating.

Move along now.

you didn't have to quit, just make some changes to your army

I'm leaving. I hope you have a good time rping.

I'm leaving. I hope you have a good time rping.

Bye. =)

ooc:Canadastein, hmmm, rings a bell but just can't place it.... Well, bye and come back anytime, I was going to do something with supplying weapons and whatnot but I guess not anymore. Oh yeah! Instant email notification, I am rping against him in a Star Wars thread. Yeah well, where is the Balkan War thread, I took Albania easily since it was just an protecterate in everything but name but posted that in the "No War" thread.
Also, why in the world is Italy listed as Axis? I havn't even formally recongized Japan or Germany much less formed a pact with them, the only people I should be associated with is Spain or and/or Turkey.

IC:
To: Chamberlim (sp?)
From: Italian High Command

</center> The great empires of our two nations have come to a crossroads, one which shall either be defeat or victory. Either way it will be hard and it will be long. There is one other way, to back up and ask ourselves what and why did this happen? I can only tell you that the Italian Empire was swept up in this blood thirsty world. I ask now, can we back up and re-think the resons for this war? Shall we make the same mistakes and those before us? Please, think and know that Italy sued for peace.</center>

wait, Italy sued for peace? what have i missed?

Hate to break it to you Italy, but you are one of the Axis powers.

The term was first used by Benito Mussolini, in November 1936, when he spoke of a Rome-Berlin axis arising out of the the treaty of friendship signed between Italy and Germany on October 25, 1936. Mussolini declared that the two countries would form an "axis" around which the other states of Europe would revolve. This treaty was forged when Fascist Italy, originally opposed to Nazi Germany, was faced with opposition to its war in Abyssinia from the League of Nations and received support from Germany. Later, in May 1939, this relationship transformed into an alliance, called by Mussolini the "Pact of Steel".

The RP starts in September, 1939, technically, at the start of the RP only Germany and Italy were the two Axis nations and Japan should not be listed.

The Axis was extended to include the Empire of Japan as a result of the Tripartite Treaty of September 27, 1940. The pact was subsequently joined by Hungary (November 20, 1940), Romania (November 23, 1940), Slovakia (November 24, 1940) and Bulgaria (March 1, 1941). The Italian name Roberto briefly acquired a new meaning from "Rome-Berlin-Tokyo" between 1940 and 1945.

Okay you have a point :rolleyes:, so yes, in a sudden move Italy asks for peace, since really what have I to lose? In other matters Italy annexes Libya and ferries troops over there to take down the primitive resistance. Also, Tripoli is fortified as Italy requests Egypt to stand down as the South African leadership has given up.

I'm having trouble finding anything about Norway's army, besides the actual historical events. Little help?

I'm having trouble finding anything about Norway's army, besides the actual historical events. Little help?

Norwegian navy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:World_War_II_naval_ships_of_Norway

Norwegian military:

http://odin.dep.no/odin/engelsk/norway/history/032005-990466/

The invasion starts

At that point, the German attack on Norway had already started. A huge fleet had departed from German ports with troops and materiel. Nearly the entire German navy, six army divisions and a large air force contingent took part in the attack. The first targets were eight Norwegian towns and cities along the country's lengthy coast.

The Norwegian defence was tiny by comparison. Most of the navy had already been mobilised, but it was organised to guard the country's neutrality. On an average, coastal forts were only 50 per cent manned. The army had mobilised 7,000 soldiers in South Norway but the entire 6th brigade, with its 4,800 men, was on duty in North Norway.

Fierce battles broke out immediately. British naval forces became embroiled in combat with German units and both sides suffered large losses, especially in the Narvik area. After a while, British, French, and Polish army units joined in. But they could not put up sufficient resistance against the well-organised German campaign. The eight targets of the attack were captured within 24 hours, as was the Norwegian naval base at Horten. It took longer for the aggressor to take the rest of the country. In mid-Norway and the south, the last to fall was Hegra Fort in Trøndelag county.

By the beginning of May, the military resistance of South Norway had been broken. To the north, in the Narvik region, German forces were outnumbered and were driven back toward the Swedish border. But the Western Allies chose to withdraw due to their setbacks on the Western Front. After 62 days, the German campaign had succeeded. Norwegian defence and security policies had suffered a total defeat. On 7 June, 1940, the Norwegian king and the Nygaardsvold government boarded the British cruiser HMS Devonshire. It would be five years before they could return.

Okay you have a point :rolleyes:, so yes, in a sudden move Italy asks for peace, since really what have I to lose? In other matters Italy annexes Libya and ferries troops over there to take down the primitive resistance. Also, Tripoli is fortified as Italy requests Egypt to stand down as the South African leadership has given up.

Well, tensions are already high between your nation, France and Britain. Because of your "Pact of Steel" with Germany I believe you are already at war with France and Britain (Didn't France invade Germany? I thought I saw a post claiming that somewhere.) You have already announced your intentions to annex the nations of Malta, Corsica and Tunis, your nation has delcared it will build a "New Roman Empire" stretching to Palestine in the east (Not going to make Britain happy.) and including Lybia, Egypt and Kenya to the south. Your military has been slightly weakened by a war in Albania which resulted in Italian annexation of Albania and your industry can only operate at about 15% of that of France or Britain. I am sorry to say, but your nation is pretty much committed to the Axis, however switching sides could be arguably the most Italian thing you could do in a situation like this. You will need help from the Axis if you wish to maintain your hold over Lybia and Albania, especially if you hope to expand your empire. In all honesty, your nation is caught between a rock and a hard place.

At this point the only nations whom are giving you any support are the Axis nations, the League of Nations has condemned your war in Ethiopia, France and Britain are, quite frankly, unlikely to give you any help because of your recent attacks on Lybia, Albania and Ethiopia, your proclaiming the building of a "New Roman Empire" and your close affiliations with Hitler. At this point you have more to gain by putting all your winnings on the line with the Axis than the Allies.

May I play as Saudi Arabia.

That depends...can you stay active?

And ai ai ai...go away for a day and things go nuts.

South Africa has left. How about we just say that anarchy overwhelmed the colony, rebellious elements seized control and declared themselves an axis power, then the new government quickly collapsed and was overwhelmed by British troops. Sound good?

Yea i can stay active. I have to its for school.

Mmmmkay, I'll add you.

Thank you. I won't let you down. Bet you heard that one before.

Moorington, I don't know how to put this to you, but umm, your nation annexed and invaded Ethiopia four years ago......

Here is the offical Saudi Arabia News Thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=470730

Moorington, I don't know how to put this to you, but umm, your nation annexed and invaded Ethiopia four years ago......

Oh, well shoot me, not only will it be less embarresing but easier. What can I say? I'll delete it.

Oh, well shoot me, not only will it be less embarresing but easier. What can I say? I'll delete it.

[ooc I'm not certain what the original one said, but I'm certain it would have been amusing to watch Italy reconquer it's own territory...]

That depends...can you stay active?

And ai ai ai...go away for a day and things go nuts.

South Africa has left. How about we just say that anarchy overwhelmed the colony, rebellious elements seized control and declared themselves an axis power, then the new government quickly collapsed and was overwhelmed by British troops. Sound good?

Works for me.

To: Chamberlim (sp?)
From: Italian High Command

</center> The great empires of our two nations have come to a crossroads, one which shall either be defeat or victory. Either way it will be hard and it will be long. There is one other way, to back up and ask ourselves what and why did this happen? I can only tell you that the Italian Empire was swept up in this blood thirsty world. I ask now, can we back up and re-think the resons for this war? Shall we make the same mistakes and those before us? Please, think and know that Italy sued for peace.</center>[/QUOTE]

OOC It would be best to do this on Non-War thread but i'll just reply to it here.

To: President Mussolini
From: Prime Minister Chamberlain

Britain recognises this as an act for peace, but must decline. Germany has broken all ties with the Treaty of Versailles, and now are doing the exact thing the treaty was designed not to do. Create a war between the Allied Forces and the Axis. If Italy will back down from any military actions then Britain will see you as Neutral and will not attack.

Neville Chamberlain
Prime Minister of Britain

Perhaps a silly question, but have we decided how time passes? What date is it now? >_>

That is a great question, Xeno, one which I really need answered before continuing with my RP. I suggest something like 1 RL day = 1 RP week, 52 RL days = 1 RP year, sounds like a good pace to keep things realistic and fast moving but not at a pace where someone will miss out on so mucn info they can't catch up if they are gone for a few days.

Also.....

Be aware that the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralysing their military capability.

It's not only the French that are on a heightened level of alert, The Italians have increased their alert level from "shout loudly and excitedly" to "elaborate military posturing". Two more levels remain, "ineffective combat operations" and "change sides".

The Germans also increased their alert state from "disdainful arrogance" to "dress in uniform and sing marching songs". They have two higher levels, "invade a neighbour" and "lose".

Seeing this reaction in continental Europe the Americans have gone from "isolationism" to "find somewhere else in the Middle East ripe for regime change". Their remaining higher alert states are "take on the world" and "ask the British for help".

Finally, in the UK they've gone from "pretend nothing's happening" to "make another cup of tea".

Be aware that the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralysing their military capability.

It's not only the French that are on a heightened level of alert, The Italians have increased their alert level from "shout loudly and excitedly" to "elaborate military posturing". Two more levels remain, "ineffective combat operations" and "change sides".

The Germans also increased their alert state from "disdainful arrogance" to "dress in uniform and sing marching songs". They have two higher levels, "invade a neighbour" and "lose".

Seeing this reaction in continental Europe the Americans have gone from "isolationism" to "find somewhere else in the Middle East ripe for regime change". Their remaining higher alert states are "take on the world" and "ask the British for help".

Finally, in the UK they've gone from "pretend nothing's happening" to "make another cup of tea".

Hahahahah! LOL, that is funny! I like the French the best and then the Italians, Britain is pretty funny too.

Anyhow, I agree for the dates and time passage.

I think I can agree with the 1RL day - 1IC week ratio. Let's just say that's it...

Considering that, we should consider putting up a date (like September Week 1/2/3/4) or something, though that'll be a pain to update.

Well that is the pain of starting these things. So cool, 3-0 pretty good so far.

I can agree to that, although I must admit that Balkan campaign clearly doesn't follow that exactly...And what about the updates to the other campaigns?

OOC: when do you think we would be able to start the rp.

OOC: when do you think we would be able to start the rp.

It's already started... check the front page, there's links to a bunch of country threads.

ok...

ok...

Meow?

Arf!

FYI: I'm Drexel Hillsville

So taking a rough shot here..

Real time - Game time

1939
Feb 27 - Sept Week 2
Feb 28 - Sept Week 3
Mar 1 - Sept Week 4
Mar 2 - Oct Week 1
Mar 3 - Oct Week 2
Mar 4 - Oct Week 3
Mar 5 - Oct Week 4
Mar 6 - Nov Week 1
Mar 7 - Nov Week 2
Mar 8 - Nov Week 3
Mar 9 - Nov Week 4
Mar 10 - Dec Week 1
Mar 11 - Dec Week 2
Mar 12 - Dec Week 3
Mar 13 - Dec Week 4

1940
Mar 14 - Jan Week 1
Mar 15 - Jan Week 2
Mar 16 - Jan Week 3
Mar 17 - Jan Week 4
Mar 18 - Feb Week 1
Mar 19 - Feb Week 2
Mar 20 - Feb Week 3
Mar 21 - Feb Week 4
Mar 22 - Mar Week 1
Mar 23 - Mar Week 2
Mar 24 - Mar Week 3
Mar 25 - Mar Week 4
Mar 26 - Apr Week 1

unfortunatley it's Sept. 1, give or take a week right now

unfortunatley it's Sept. 1, give or take a week right now

Says who? =p Says me, now. I'm not changing it again. >.<

where are the other major players!!!!!!

where are the other major players!!!!!!

my question too...

where are the other major players!!!!!!

I apologize if I fail to meet your high standards, I am what I am and nothing can change that. All I can ask is that you accept me for who and what I am.

Aw, Norway doesn't get invaded for ages yet, I'm going to be playing this game for ages. Not as long as the Germany player I suppose.

Can't really do a lot till I get some response in Poland. Sorry

You see, thats the problem of fighting on two fronts, you can't just fight on one side and then send all your other troops over to the other when its done, you have to deal with it. You have 34 divisions attacking Poland. I have 72 divisions attacking you, you have to respond with what you have or call off the attack on Poland.

Tenarius, can you just go back to rping Poland's troops, this is easier.

I apologize if I fail to meet your high standards, I am what I am and nothing can change that. All I can ask is that you accept me for who and what I am.

Yeah, same here ;)

Yeah, same here ;)

Same again. Sorry to say that this rp, like many WWII ones before it, has descended into one of impatience and outlandish claims. I'm sorry to say I won't be posting again as I believe this RP will not work (my respect for you remains Tenarius, its just that this always seems to happen...). Sorry

this does always seem to happen. I guess we need a new Germany. and USSR and Poland and Britain... aw whatever

Same again. Sorry to say that this rp, like many WWII ones before it, has descended into one of impatience and outlandish claims. I'm sorry to say I won't be posting again as I believe this RP will not work (my respect for you remains Tenarius, its just that this always seems to happen...). Sorry

Just trying this out for a month or two and just leaving isn't going to solve anything, either you play your nation and do it or not. I am fine if you leave, whatever country you may have now we have to find a place for. So whatever happens, peace, and I hope you will find more backbone somewhere else.

Is there anything going on now?