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Kravanian OOC Thread

McKagan
14-02-2006, 03:22
Ok, the current thread has became pretty cluttered and with Kravania's odd hours and the like it's going to make most of the days a big OOC fest. Because of that, I suggest this become the OOC thread and all OOC in the current thread be deleted.
The Lone Alliance
14-02-2006, 03:28
(Regarding last OOC thread)
Wouldn't the death star destroy whole cities? I will ignore a laser that acts like the Laser from Independence day. That would just be silly.
McKagan
14-02-2006, 03:56
I meant it as a metaphor. Satellites with lasers that can not only go through the atmosphere, but then DESTROY a hardened device are obviously FT. I'm not literally talking about the death star.

If that's allowed, and i'm sure it won't be, then I'll use technology I feel is on the same level. That means i'll launch K504 into orbit (which is the level of a FT Battlecruiser) and destroy anything in the (orbital) freedom.
McKagan
14-02-2006, 03:59
NoDot, you don't just FIND the Presidential hideout like that. You didn't even RP as searching for it! The chances anyone will get a workable way to find that hideout is almost 0%. You'd have to RP searching for it, what gave it away, and everything. You've not done (and can't do) any of that at this point.
Willink
14-02-2006, 05:10
Were the hell is kravania today ?
The Lone Alliance
14-02-2006, 05:11
NoDot, you don't just FIND the Presidential hideout like that. You didn't even RP as searching for it! The chances anyone will get a workable way to find that hideout is almost 0%. You'd have to RP searching for it, what gave it away, and everything. You've not done (and can't do) any of that at this point.
Besides it's easy to figure out, It's somewhere in nearest Mountain range to the Capital. It's ALWAYs in the mountain Range near the Capital. (That's why I put mine in a swamp on the other side of the country.
McKagan
14-02-2006, 05:12
No idea. But he sometimes doesn't post for a few days at a time so I would get comfortable.
The Lone Alliance
14-02-2006, 05:13
Were the hell is kravania today ?
The bigger question, where are The Parthians, and Roach-Busters? They left because it's no longer a dogpile?
McKagan
14-02-2006, 05:19
Besides it's easy to figure out, It's somewhere in nearest Mountain range to the Capital. It's ALWAYs in the mountain Range near the Capital. (That's why I put mine in a swamp on the other side of the country.

You do realize that just because you see a mountain range doesn't mean you can find a bunker in it, don't you? At that, Kravania will ignore those lasers anyway. I may carry out a few... "surgical strikes" later... but I don't know.

My Presidential Bunker is in the middle of the McKagan desert under a massive mineral deposit/small mountain range (which when other mountains are around look like a hill.)

That's between McKagan City in the east and Kurora in the North West. Kurora is the big IT Based city.
NoDot
17-02-2006, 17:07
Sorry for disappearing like that. For the interested, my NSWiki article (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_Empire_of_NoDot) is more complete now.

I shouldn't disappear again any time soon.
The Lone Alliance
19-02-2006, 02:38
Okay should we undo the invasion, and keep everything like it was.
Or we continue with the Nuke blast leveling your entire navy leaving what forces on land that survived alone.

I suggest the former, it's a cheap shot on both sides, having an uncontested invasion, and me resorting to nuke spam.

Besides I didn't finish the meeting of leaders. Remove the invasion for now. (Actually I've been busy so I couldn't make up some stuff for defense either)
NoDot
19-02-2006, 02:47
To Krav: Fine, they don't have cloaking...
Kravania
19-02-2006, 02:51
No lasers or death rays from outer space, no aliens, no space ships, no cloaking devices, no anti matter anti gravity thingy's or any other geeky BS that people copy from crappy TV shows like star trek or star wars.

I hate FT and space in general.
McKagan
19-02-2006, 02:51
Kravania, what is the stats on the fleet you're sending?
NoDot
19-02-2006, 02:53
No lasers or death rays from outer space, no aliens, no space ships, no cloaking devices, no anti matter anti gravity thingy's or any other geeky BS that people copy from crappy TV shows like star trek or star wars.

I hate FT and space in general.They have lasers and they were designed for taking out ships and anything dumb enough to move in a strait line. Unfortunately, I can't use my satelites for anything, as the clouds are blocking them. If we get missle coordinates, though, I'm going to fire something.
Kravania
19-02-2006, 02:56
This is the initial invasion fleet:

The initial Kravanian invasion force consisted of:

130,000 Kravanian soldiers

25,000 Kravanian Special Security Force (SSF) soldiers (SSF are the most elite, well armed and well trained of Kravania's armed forces.)

3,500 M-1 MBTs

1,500 T-80 MBTs

2,000 M-113 APCs

4,000 BMP-3 APCs

15,000 Trucks/transporters

10,000 Jeeps with mounted 12mm MGs

300 Mi-24 Attack helicopters

400 AH-64 'Apache' Attack helicopters

800 Mi-8 Transport helicopters

200 SCUD-C surface-to-surface missiles (100 armed with chemical warheads/100 armed with conventional warheads.)

800 AA cannons

500 Mobile AA missile launcher trucks

2,500 Artillary guns

This invasion fleet was to be escorted by the Kravanian Navy, who in turn provided an escort fleet to protect the invasion convoy in the seas.

4 Cruisers

5 Destroyers

10 Frigates

15 Corvettes

10 Sumbmarines (3 nuclear powered.)
NoDot
19-02-2006, 02:57
I forgot to add, (I'd edit this, but it'd go unnoticed, so sorry.) my men (all 100, and that's all of them) are trained psions. They can stop bullets, but that's probably all they're going to do tonight. (Hear me TLA?) They're there to save some lives, not take any, though I expect some friendly fire problems. ;)
Kravania
19-02-2006, 02:58
However, Im going to put them on hold, and send many more invasion fleets to really build up a huge invasion force and do mutliple attacks on many different fronts to try and overwhelm the TLA defences.

Maybe a million or so troops.

Plus wait for Pathia and RB do have their ground forces attack at the same time.
Kravania
19-02-2006, 03:00
Im sorry, but no Matrix BS either, stopping bullets with the force of your mind is something I'll ignore.

I RP IC events that can relate to the REAL world, with humans with early 21st century technology.

Next will be having vampires and werewolves in this RP.

C'mon, keep it realistic.
Southeastasia
19-02-2006, 03:02
I RP IC events that can relate to the REAL world, with humans with early 21st century technology.
Same here...for the most part at least. I keep an interstellar defense force "just in case", however.
NoDot
19-02-2006, 03:02
Im sorry, but no Matrix BS either, stopping bullets with the force of your mind is something I'll ignore.

I RP IC events that can relate to the REAL world, with humans with early 21st century technology.

Next will be having vampires and werewolves in this RP.

C'mon, keep it realistic.Psions are a perfectly real phonomenon. The most they'll do to your men (other than stop bullets, a hard job, unlike in the Matrix) is through your men back.
McKagan
19-02-2006, 03:03
However, Im going to put them on hold, and send many more invasion fleets to really build up a huge invasion force and do mutliple attacks on many different fronts to try and overwhelm the TLA defences.

Maybe a million or so troops.

Plus wait for Pathia and RB do have their ground forces attack at the same time.

So you're not sending an invasion force right now?

This should be futher RP'd. TLA, you should launch your navy and Air Force to do some OFFENSIVE work in this. I mean, really. You're just going to let Kravania roll over you like he has so far?

Kravania, remember that cruiser that destroyed an entier wing you used to attack TLA? You should send some ships towards it to investigate. It'll lead them to an area that's 100% out of the way and it'll be a McKagan cruiser vs. a Kravanian fleet. Of course, I could be leading it into an ambush.... we've got potential for RP'ing here BEFORE an invasion.
McKagan
19-02-2006, 03:05
Psions are a perfectly real phonomenon. The most they'll do to your men (other than stop bullets, a hard job, unlike in the Matrix) is through your men back.

Magic and Star Trek isn't MT.
NoDot
19-02-2006, 03:05
Magic and Star Trek isn't MT. This isn't magic or Star Trek. >.>
The Lone Alliance
19-02-2006, 03:06
Alright lets not have the invasion tonight, I'm now too confused to RP. If Kravania and you McKagan want to do something, do it,

I'm just out of it now. Besides the rest of the RPers need to know about it before hand.
McKagan
19-02-2006, 03:07
This isn't magic or Star Trek. >.>

Oh, I forgot. I'm going to use my mind to get a Dr. Pepper out of the fridge. :)
NoDot
19-02-2006, 03:10
Oh, I forgot. I'm going to use my mind to get a Dr. Pepper out of the fridge. :)Oh, ha ha.

And TLA, my men won't use guns. 10,000 psions defeated 1,000,000 armed men in the Empirical Revolution which put NoDot in charge and we only lost 2,500 men and killed all of the opponents.
The Lone Alliance
19-02-2006, 03:14
But if you use them here, they'll be killed instantly by the others I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons NoDot.
Kravania
19-02-2006, 03:15
And TLA, my men won't use guns. 10,000 psions defeated 1,000,000 armed men in the Empirical Revolution which put NoDot in charge and we only lost 2,500 men and killed all of the opponents.

Which is why Ill IGNORE your psions.

I refuse to RP such an unfair system, where you can just 'think' away an enemy.

Use RL HUMAN/MT stuff or find another thread that is more suited to your RPing style.

TLA:

Why not start of this invasion tonight, if we do it right???

Im busy next week and weekend, so you could end up waiting for two weeks or so, if you do not want to RP an attack tonight or Sunday nite.
Magdha
19-02-2006, 03:16
Anyone want to RP with my forces?
Kravania
19-02-2006, 03:17
I want invasion, not a naval war with McKagan as like RB, Im really shit at naval warfare, it's my weakest point for I have no clue as to how you use a navy.

If I was a RL leader of a nation, I would not even have a navy.
The Lone Alliance
19-02-2006, 03:17
Sunday's fine, I'll have to TG alot of people to get everyone on the same page tonight, and most are off right now. besides in about 10 minutes I'll have to stop.

And Naval battles aren't that hard, just think of them as Giant Tanks\Missile launchers and moving Airports except on the water.
Kravania
19-02-2006, 03:19
OK.

Does anyone know which city in Willink the RavenCorps is based in?

They did a missile attack on me, It's time for me to nuke their Corporate HQ.
NoDot
19-02-2006, 03:22
Anyone know where I can find a "Delete Forum Account and Delete all Posts" button on my User CP?
McKagan
19-02-2006, 03:37
If you're going to have an "invasion fleet", you need to be able to RP Naval Warfare because your "fleet" will face enemy fleets. There ARE other ways to land soldiers, you know? Why not wage a massive air campaign to destroy TLA AA systems and then fly an UNGODLY number of Transport planes over the nation? It's terrible RP'ing to think you're going to invade a major nation after launching only a single offensive that managed to get your entier bomber wing destroyed along with its escorts.

In the meantime, Prometheus is looking for survivors from the bomber wing. Could you please post on anyone that survived being taken into McKagan custody?
Animarnia
19-02-2006, 04:15
Ok, I'll just say - what the hell happened... I don't see any invasion posts but people are talking about them in the IC thread, I'm VERY confused
McKagan
19-02-2006, 04:19
Kravania posted an invasion post where a 130,000 man army landed on TLA beaches before TLA could even respond to countering the fleet so we retconed it.
Animarnia
19-02-2006, 04:24
Right :) ok, *nods* So we're back now the to fleet still aproaching?

Edit and this is directed at noDot

Mind soldiers? erm..I won't accept that..special forces yes, but mind soldiers, no, the satelite thing I was willing to overlook without the cloaking but..no, I RP MT. and early PMT. having 'invicible' soldiers just isn't fair to the other players.

now Kravania, and the invasion forces, you have Wilinks mines to deal with, as well as anything I have put down ICly before you can land on TLA, I know how you feel though I'm not too good at navel warfair either
Intracircumcordei
19-02-2006, 04:28
I want invasion, not a naval war with McKagan as like RB, Im really shit at naval warfare, it's my weakest point for I have no clue as to how you use a navy.

If I was a RL leader of a nation, I would not even have a navy.

I think of the Navy as floating land, that is primarily focused upon being a militarized fortress.

The catch being .. it moves..

THE OTHER CATCH BEING.. PEOPLE DON'T JUST GET BLOWN UP, THEY CAN ALSO DROWN. Of course you can do that in a moat too..



P.s my forces are primarily hopefully being used for humanitarian usages, easin suffering.

All thus stuff is Modern Tech.. but for people that don't get high technology 'and cutting edge technology' it may be considered MT+ a few years (building and deployment time really.. most of the stuff is in research phases or already done in one form or another.

I have implemented a number of 'humanitarian' forces in project escape. I have a number of forces ready to 'respond' but I am attempting to help civilians regardless of nationality, for their betterment.

Of course if my humanitarians, or attempt to save civilian lives in the potential combat zone is hindered or my humanitarian forces are attacked I may need to defend them. Naturally my humanitarian forces need supplies etc.. although not by any means a full military force they are not complete sitting ducks, they are very intelligent and able Dians.

pps I am still waitin on a response from Kravinia if they are going to let my humanitarian project continue and if they are willing to let my humanitarians help their recently attacked population out of their struggle, for the good of humanity.

It seems your people are at risk too. We will send our doctors to help treat your injured just like in Lone Alliance, the Dians care for the people.

I can assure you all my equipment is stuff I understand how it works (which gaurenties it is modern tech, heh)
Animarnia
19-02-2006, 04:44
*nods* I don't think any of us have problems with MT and early to mid PMT. but I think mind soldiers and space weapons that could turn a city into dust are pretty out there. I mean heck I LOVE the Ion cannon from C&C and my Orbital Weapons platform is basically an Ion cannon but I couldn't use it in this RP as MT as that kind of tech is years away. maybe decades
Intracircumcordei
19-02-2006, 04:52
OK.

Does anyone know which city in Willink the RavenCorps is based in?

They did a missile attack on me, It's time for me to nuke their Corporate HQ.

I will pass some intelligence to you.

They apparently have bunkers. Terra City

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463380


that'll prolly just make raven go ballistic (pun)

note apparently they have really deadly WMD's so it may just be a body count ICCD would be doing humanitarian process for.
Intracircumcordei
19-02-2006, 17:53
*nods* I don't think any of us have problems with MT and early to mid PMT. but I think mind soldiers and space weapons that could turn a city into dust are pretty out there. I mean heck I LOVE the Ion cannon from C&C and my Orbital Weapons platform is basically an Ion cannon but I couldn't use it in this RP as MT as that kind of tech is years away. maybe decades

The US as part of the 'star wars' program actually made space based weapons to take out missle system. If you could find a way to direct and amplifying solar energy then it may be possible, but my geuss is you would prolly need a super cooled super conducting array and it would incredibly damage the atomosphere (ozone and such) it would be damn expensive though.

Psychic powers apparently are already in the military I have read articles of both the us special forces and old kgb and some police forces employ psychics. I think it is because it is consider supernatural and you'd prolly be considered insane if you try to use it as a defence etc.. but I personally think it is very real, and a potential individuals should not just discard.

I think that the powers of psychics or magi may need to be 'reallistic' and perhaps very rare. Like if there were 1 million Jesus's out there, then I would geuss it would be noticable, but there are allot of unexplained or even explained instances of 'magical' like things, they just get disbeleived or discarded or exposed as hoaxes.. but not all them. It's understandable you'd like to stick to very sane occurances, but I would be suprised if in 50 years when genetic engineering is in full swing on humans psychic structures and electrochemical states of nueural interchanes that being able to tune into the universe on more indepth levels, especially empathy and perhaps telepathy.. and to a lesser degree, precognizance and omnipresence. The reasons are many but we already communicate via non physical thus energy systems such as our EM aura ,and physical atomic spectrum resonance. Ultimately everything transmits information it is just which information is filtered through various systems etc.. etc.. for us to pick up on it we have to have decryption which may be intricate and relatively complex, but so is our nueropsychological structures (relatively, realistically there are quite obvious and simplistic)
The Lone Alliance
19-02-2006, 19:18
*nods* I don't think any of us have problems with MT and early to mid PMT. but I think mind soldiers and space weapons that could turn a city into dust are pretty out there. I mean heck I LOVE the Ion cannon from C&C and my Orbital Weapons platform is basically an Ion cannon but I couldn't use it in this RP as MT as that kind of tech is years away. maybe decades
(Ion Cannons have been used in this one.)
Animarnia
19-02-2006, 20:26
The US as part of the 'star wars' program actually made space based weapons to take out missle system. If you could find a way to direct and amplifying solar energy then it may be possible, but my geuss is you would prolly need a super cooled super conducting array and it would incredibly damage the atomosphere (ozone and such) it would be damn expensive though.

Psychic powers apparently are already in the military I have read articles of both the us special forces and old kgb and some police forces employ psychics. I think it is because it is consider supernatural and you'd prolly be considered insane if you try to use it as a defence etc.. but I personally think it is very real, and a potential individuals should not just discard.

I think that the powers of psychics or magi may need to be 'reallistic' and perhaps very rare. Like if there were 1 million Jesus's out there, then I would geuss it would be noticable, but there are allot of unexplained or even explained instances of 'magical' like things, they just get disbeleived or discarded or exposed as hoaxes.. but not all them. It's understandable you'd like to stick to very sane occurances, but I would be suprised if in 50 years when genetic engineering is in full swing on humans psychic structures and electrochemical states of nueural interchanes that being able to tune into the universe on more indepth levels, especially empathy and perhaps telepathy.. and to a lesser degree, precognizance and omnipresence. The reasons are many but we already communicate via non physical thus energy systems such as our EM aura ,and physical atomic spectrum resonance. Ultimately everything transmits information it is just which information is filtered through various systems etc.. etc.. for us to pick up on it we have to have decryption which may be intricate and relatively complex, but so is our nueropsychological structures (relatively, realistically there are quite obvious and simplistic)

OH on a personal level I think magic, pyshics and metaphysical things are very real. but that dosn't mean they belong in this RP :)
Southeastasia
21-02-2006, 10:11
{OOC: I'm horrible at war RPs.}
Then what's the point of having a massive military force, and refusing a naval battle simply because you're hopeless when it comes to the seven seas? You won't improve at that rate, should you keep it up.