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Gays and GLAD Members Shot Dead!

Gilabad
13-02-2006, 02:48
Earlier today, the Gilabad Secret Police (GSP) raided a suspected "Gay" hideout in the southern sector of Gilabad DF (capitol). Upon braking in, they found 29 men and 18 women who were not only Gay but were taking part in Gay marriages. This of course is strictly illegal due to article 3 of the "Anti-Gay" bill. The GSP immediately lined them up on the wall along the street and made a final count of how many there were. Then they were given a chance to explain themselves. Most of their arguments were that the Gilbadian government was wrong in prohibiting Gay marrriagess. Then the GSP loaded their weapons which included UMP 45s, USAS-12 full auto shotguns, and MP5A4s. They took aim fired. First they aimed at their feet and worked their way up so they would die slowly. After their magazines were completely unloaded, they urinated on the bodies and threw what was left of them into the local sewer system, via a manhole.
[NS]Kreynoria
13-02-2006, 02:53
The Divine Empire of Kreynoria applauds Gilabad's stance against homosexuality, a thoroughly unnatural aberration, although we advise against such brutal treatment, which may draw unwanted attention from pro-gay rights nations.
Gejigrad
13-02-2006, 03:01
The People's Republic of Gejigrad, although a primarily Christian nation, avidly condemns these acts of violence against homosexuals. There was no need to go to the extremes that the nation of Gilabad has gone to, if indeed there are such reasons in existence. For does not the Faith tell us to love our enemies--yes, even enemies of God?
West Corinthia
13-02-2006, 03:01
We disapprove of the way you handled the situation. Though, there are no gays in West Corinthia so we have no experience in the matter.
Amazonian Beasts
13-02-2006, 03:01
The Federation of Amazonian Beasts congratulates Gilabad on their decision to eradicate these unnatural individuals and their rebellious ideas of homosexuality.
Kahanistan
13-02-2006, 03:03
DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Office of the President

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The Government of Kahanistan condemns the brutal murder of 47 homosexual couples for exercising their basic human rights of freedom of association and following their hearts when they did not allow society, if one can even use that word in this context, to dictate to them who they could and could not love.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs advises all homosexual citizens of Kahanistan to avoid travel to Gilabad, as their safety cannot be guaranteed by the MFA under the current political climate. Furthermore, we call upon the homosexuals of Gilabad to assert the rights given them by international law.

Signed,
Mohammed bin Yusuf al-Za'if,
President of Kahanistan
The Beltway
13-02-2006, 03:05
Whereas, the concept of banning gays as a class is shockingly barbaric,

Whereas, the conduct of the GSP was sickening, inhumane, and utterly unbecoming that of officers of the law,

And whereas, the government of Gilabad has yet to condemn the actions taken by its police,

The Beltway condemns the actions of the GSP and urges the government of Gilabad to arrest and try the officers involved for the murders they committed.
Signed,
PM Timothy Kaine of The Beltway
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:06
The People's Republic of Gejigrad, although a primarily Christian nation, avidly condemns these acts of violence against homosexuals. There was no need to go to the extremes that the nation of Gilabad has gone to, if indeed there are such reasons in existence. For does not the Faith tell us to love our enemies--yes, even enemies of God?

I am aware of this. However the Bible does say in Psalm 149, to rise up against the evil nations of God and unleash the judgment upon them. And In Romans chapter 1 or 2 it says to not even have affiliation with those who dishonor their bodies amongst themselves.
Anorexic Dancers
13-02-2006, 03:10
The Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers disapproves of the Gilabad "Anti-Gay" Law. It also disapproves of the actions of the Gilabad Secret Police. It condemns the lack of action by the Gilabad government and questions the decisions of and control over the police by said government.

The Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers and one of its advisors would like to point out that Romans 1 was referring to religious practices of the time. The inspired Word of God would never condone the murder of gay couples.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:12
Warlord Shawhabas came out to give a speech at his presidential palace. As the News Media began crowding the area, he came out to his podium.

"This is a glorious day for all of Gilabad. We further rid ourselves of an infestation of homosexual lunatics. I would like to congradulate the GSP on their work. I would also like to send a stern warning to all homosexuals in Gilabad. We are comming for you! There is nowhere to hide, nowhere to run, and nothing to do but turn yourselves in. If you don't...well, let's just say that today was an example of what we do to you if you don't. Thankyou my fellow Gilabadians!

He walked off the podium and back into his presidential palace.
Naktan
13-02-2006, 03:15
The Holy Empire of Naktan strongly condemns the actions of this state of Gilabad. While we debate the nature of the murders of their citizens, the State has committed the greatest injustice against its own people, and thus in a sense violates the trust of its people. If in the interest of the people, a nation kills the people for a wrong, that nation does harm against its people, choosing to kill dissidents rather than re-educating them in the proper manner as it pertains to the law. In this case, killing the citizens of a state who disagree with a law that has its sacred properties is worse than most others, for not only have you murdered those who stood in ignorance and negligence, you have committed to yourselves the same judgment as is awaiting for your nation.

While these harsh things, our priests will pray to Taiarai, that Taiarai will forgive these acts, and guide the people of of Gilabad to a righteous State and method of governing.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Naktan
13-02-2006, 03:17
BTW, the Psalms 149 reference is not legitimate...the author does not say men shall rise in judgment, but rather God shall... and Romans does not say to kill them, but rather to avoid them, and likewise, by killing these dissidents, in some way, you have failed to avoid them by killing them, thus taking in part of their immorality...
Gejigrad
13-02-2006, 03:19
I am aware of this. However the Bible does say in Psalm 149, to rise up against the evil nations of God and unleash the judgment upon them. And In Romans chapter 1 or 2 it says to not even have affiliation with those who dishonor their bodies amongst themselves.

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Hallelujah! Sing to the LORD a new song, a hymn in the assembly of the faithful.
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Let Israel be glad in their maker, the people of Zion rejoice in their king.
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Let them praise his name in festive dance, make music with tambourine and lyre.
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For the LORD takes delight in his people, honors the poor with victory.
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Let the faithful rejoice in their glory, cry out for joy at their banquet,
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With the praise of God in their mouths, and a two-edged sword in their hands,
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To bring retribution on the nations, punishment on the peoples,
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To bind their kings with chains, shackle their nobles with irons,
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To execute the judgments decreed for them-- such is the glory of all God's faithful. Hallelujah!"

Such is the quotation from Psalm 149; there is no urging of jihad. Nay, the two-edged sword of the Word of God is here referred to, rather than the bomb, or the bullet. Warfare must only be a last resort, or a response to an utterly hopeless and violent people.

As for the references to Romans 1 and 2: Did not Jesus dine with the tax collectors, and have company with the harlots? Therefore, who are we, who are so much less holy than He, to turn away others from the Faith? Say instead, do not imitate them, but do turn them away from their sins in kind with the mercy God has shown us.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:20
How would you be knowledgable of the Bible when your nation believes in a Pagan (Naktan)! This is very amuzing! Please continue! By the way that was Jesus, neither you nor I am Jesus!
Gejigrad
13-02-2006, 03:24
How would you be knowledgable of the Bible when your nation believes in a Pagan! This is very amuzing! Please continue! By the way that was Jesus, neither you nor I am Jesus!

Even Naaman, a Syrian, and his associates in the King's council, knew of God, and had a rudimentary faith. Knowledge of God is not restricted to those of the Faith, and indeed, it should be a joyous thing that others know of it.

Indeed, none of us are, and none of us can ever hope to be like Jesus. However, the point was that, if the Son of God will do these things, who are we to turn our noses up at them? Are we above Him--certainly not!
Naktan
13-02-2006, 03:26
Our Beloved Holy Eminence is slightly insulted by this claim that our God is in fact a pagan, for in truth, you mock your own God, by calling God pagan.

And in referring the Jesus character, if this person was as righteous as he is creditted to be, is it not better to emulate him, rather than to cast doubt on our abilities to become like this character, righteous and true? The arguments that you propose reveal to the world that your basis for these things are purely out of an indoctrination as such that voids the legitimacy of Taiarai (or God, as you put it) and likewise claims the nature of humans to be less than worthy of emulating it. By your words, you judge yourselves...

We shall continue to pray for forgiveness, that Taiaria may be willing to spread mercy to your people and open the eyes of the blind to see the truth of things as they should be.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:27
You can have your own opinion about your faith. Even so, there is no secular evidence that supports why Gays should even exist. They are a pestillence!
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:28
Ok then since we're speaking English then we can call him God!
Naktan
13-02-2006, 03:28
Just because its a different name doesn't mean its not the same God. And it seems to be a little ignorant not to read the books of other religions, to see what truths are written within it and to discern what fallacies are inherent within them.
Anorexic Dancers
13-02-2006, 03:29
The Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers wishes to point out the role that many homosexual individuals take in society. Most homosexual citizens of the Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers are responsible, helpful members of society.
Gejigrad
13-02-2006, 03:30
You can have your own opinion about your faith. Even so, there is no secular evidence that supports why Gays should even exist. They are a pestillence!

The existence of sin on this earth is a troubling thing, indeed. However, sinners are not insects, whom cannot be persuaded by reasonable and righteous means to join the Faith--and if they refuse? Laugh, for their time will come from God, whose wrath is holy, while humankind's and furrekind's alike is not.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:30
Oh you're right, I could use them to rape prison inmates (sarcastic).....um I THINK NOT! As I said, no secular reason they should exist! There is no "gene" it's a choice. If they make that choice, they die!
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:35
I take back my statement to Naktan, however since we're speaking English, we can call him God!
Anorexic Dancers
13-02-2006, 03:35
Once again, the Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers and one of its advisors would like to ask the President of Gilibad to consider this question: If it is a 'choice' rather than a 'gene', how do you propose to explain the reported and proven case of homosexuality among sheep, monkeys and penguins?
Gejigrad
13-02-2006, 03:35
Oh you're right, I could use them to rape prison inmates (sarcastic).....um I THINK NOT! As I said, no secular reason they should exist! There is no "gene" it's a choice. If they make that choice, they die!

We are confused. Do you deign yourself the moderators of God's judgement, when He has not spoken to you? We find this highly unlikely, as well, as the prophets were done away with when Christ finished His work.

We are also confused as to why they are sinners makes a difference.
Naktan
13-02-2006, 03:37
His Holy Eminence is slightly disturbed at your actions, justifying the said thought that your people are not acting in the manner as is professed by your faith. On the contrary, you act against it.

As for the pestilence of certain citizens of your country, it seems a waste to kill them, for in that manner, you would all of your citizens, for they are all a pestilence in some manner or not. But rather than elaborate on that matter, we will concentrate on the subjects as hand, that is to say, the nature of citizens are labled homosexuals. If your claim to secular existence is true, then we should concern what makes this so. Is it right to assume that a citizen does not have the right to exist because there is no explicit secular reason for their existence? Well, let us assume that, and we kill all of them. What justice have we done them by killing them? None. In fact, we have wronged them in saying that their way was a wrong way, and in offering little reason and no effort to turn their ways, we kill them. To the Holy Empire of Naktan, this is a barbaric practice, more barbaric than a pagan nation treating its citizens like genuine humans and offering them the chance - not only the chance but the duty - to change to the right ways.

Of course, His Holy Eminence recognizes that you are your own entity, your own state, and thus may Taiarai judge you fairly, as you have you have judged your people. If you still doubt that Taiarai is not the same as your God (which after this discourse may be quite evident that your God is not the same as our God or the God professed by your faith), then by your God, may you have mercy.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Amazonian Beasts
13-02-2006, 03:37
Once again, the Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers and one of its advisors would like to ask the President of Gilibad to consider this question: If it is a 'choice' rather than a 'gene', how do you propose to explain the reported and proven case of homosexuality among sheep, monkeys and penguins?
The Federation can answer your question. When grouped together as single genders, when lacking other members of the opposite genders for long periods, it is only natural that animals would take on the roles of other genders to compensate.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:38
Gejigrad, you are missing the point. Annorexic Dancers, there is no homosexuality among animals. It's stupid liberals that have to inflame everything!
Gejigrad
13-02-2006, 03:41
Gejigrad, you are missing the point. Annorexic Dancers, there is no homosexuality among animals. It's stupid liberals that have to inflame everything!

Then please explain your point to us? For we cannot see what you are getting at.

But perhaps indicated by your last statement, that would be an exercise in futility, for logic conceived behind a veil from the rest of rational thought is always illogical, and sometimes dangerous, as unilaterally rejecting liberal members of society falls under the definition of short-sighted illogical thought.

We will pray for you.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 03:44
Warlord Shawhabas thanks you for praying for him, however he is unable to to explain what he has been trying to explain, as you simply will not understand.
Anorexic Dancers
13-02-2006, 03:48
Your refusal to accept facts and dismiss them as "liberal," proves your incompitance at thinking logically. That and your seemingly joyous celebration of the death of your innocent citizens suggests that the leaders of your nation are incapable of ruling justly.

The Confederacy of Anorexic Dancers pities the citizens of Gilibad and extends a formal invitation of sanctuary to all Gilibadians suffering from persecution under Gilibadian law.
Naktan
13-02-2006, 03:49
Warlord Shawhabas thanks you for praying for him, however he is unable to to explain what he has been trying to explain, as you simply will not understand.

We are a reasonable people. Please, explain - and with good logic; then we shall become good disciplines, in the know of this that is to be explained. Otherwise, we remain unconvinced of these murders.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
West Corinthia
13-02-2006, 03:52
Upon further consideration West Corinthia warns Gilbad not to make martyrs of these people. Hold a trial for them, even if it's rigged. Accuse them of anything, it happens all the time in West Corinthia.
The Beltway
13-02-2006, 03:53
The Republic of The Beltway, seeing that the inhumane and brutal acts of the GSP have been not punished, but rather lauded, by Gilabad, hereby condemns Gilabad for its horrific, barbaric actions.
Signed,
Timothy Kaine, Prime Minister
Atruria
13-02-2006, 03:57
Royal Communique

The High Kingdom of Atruria does hereby condemn the horrific acts of Gilabad and the Gilabad Secret Police as acts of tyranny, police brutality, and massive breaches in human rights. The sickening murder of these 47 couples, simply for being homosexual was unwarranted and the manner in which it was carried out was extremely disturbing. As High King, I hereby open Atruria to any Gilabadian homosexuals seeking asylum from said nation and its despicable government.


His Imperial and Royal Majesty, Charles III, By the Grace of God, High King of Atruria, King of Durenheim, Duke of Sanchony and Gastonia, Grand Master of the Imperial and Royal Orders and Chivalric Order of the Red Lion, First Admiral of the Royal Navy, Lord-Marshal of the Army, Prince of the House of Lothar, Conquering Lion of the Tribes of Atruriah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Naktan
13-02-2006, 04:04
Delegate from Gilabad,

We from Naktan have come to hear your arguments for the legitimacy of your actions. We want to hear your arguments, so that if we have errred in condemning actions, we may have some knowledge of how and why. Silence is not a viable argument, since it either proves that you have no argument, have an argument that you realize to be erroneous, or that your argument is so great that lowly mortals as us would not know what it means and what to make of it. But we can assure you that there is no mortal argument that cannot be comprehended by another mortal. Whereas the will of God is that of the infinite and glorious power of the one God [OOC:if you wanna know what "Taiarai" means, I just said it] cannot easily understood by mortals. Whereas that is the case, we arer wondering how a mere mortal as yourself could comprehend the will of God, aside from your knowledge of the secular means of life, to condemn these persons with the infraction of the holy of sacrements - the existence.

Please explain to us where we have erred or where we have failed at understanding your logic, Warlord Shawhabas. Until then, we remain unconvinced.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Sarzonia
13-02-2006, 04:08
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Official Statement
Incorporated Sarzonian Government

The Incorporated Sarzonian Government expresses its extreme outrage at the genocidal workings of the rogue savages who call themselves the government of Gilabad. The future will show your government to be on the wrong side of history.

Any further attacks against the homosexual population will result in dire consequences.

Nicole Lewis
Lieutenant President
Incorproated States of Sarzonia
Naktan
13-02-2006, 04:12
Seeing that as the delegate from Gilabad has left at this hour 0313GMT, we at the Holy Empire of Naktan fear that either their people are lost in the minds of a warlord or that we are all lost in our judgment because the delegate refuses to enlighten us. Seeing as our judgments are adequate, we prefer to think the former than the latter.

To the nations who give support to the discriminated souls of Gilabad, we commend your efforts, and we pray that you may care for these people more than their home, for whereas morals compose the accepted norms of a society, no society should ever accept the norms of indiscriminate slaughters of their citizens, even if these are the most vehement of criminals.

We pray to Taiarai that blessings will come to your lands, and that the solidarity of fellow nations with the righteous attitude to the sanctity of life will persuade other nations to end their barbaric practices. We continue to pray for the people Gilabad, that judgment may be fair, unlike their leader's judgment.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 04:31
I will present an argument to you now, however it is in no way to convince you or justify my governments actions, being that I don't care. Anyway, in no religeon is there a reading that allows homosexuality! Judeism-no no! Islam-double no no! IE: they either inject you with male (being that you are a male) hormones or kill you, Christiannity-no no!, Budism-doesn't say anything about it to my knowledge, Hinduism-does not say anything to my knowledge. Also for the secular evidence, there is none. There is no gene, it is purely a choice, and I don't mean one day you wake up and you're gay, I mean for example, if you have gay parents, and you are raised knowing it is OK and your parents promote it, then you are most likely going to be gay. This is most but not all of my argument, as to what it is you want out of it, I don't care! My nation and its people voted the law prohibiting homosexuality. It was the first pole we've had in a long time.

-Warlord Shawhabas
Naktan
13-02-2006, 04:35
Ah, it is most pleasurable to see your return! And you ahve provided some arguments pertaining to this nature. Perhaps you have justified why homosexuality is wrong. Now convince us that it is right to kill them - without trial, without due process, without regard to the sanctity of their bodies, for if you do value them, you would not defame them (as much as your GSP personnel have) in death as much as they did in life.

Provide us that argument.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
The Parthians
13-02-2006, 04:37
Official Statement by the Shah of Parthia

While we do not believe the methods utilized by the nation of Gilabad to curtail an offense against morals are justified in this case, we do believe in national sovereignty. As such, we are prepared to defend Gilabad if any nations prepare hostile attack against said nation for exercising its sovereign right to power. Parthia does consider said actions to be criminal on Parthian national territory, but respects the desires of nations to enforce their own laws. If any hostile attacks on Gilabad are made, Parthia will be forced to respond in the defense of sovereignty.

-Shah Khosru III
Naktan
13-02-2006, 04:43
...it is in no way to convince you or justify my governments actions, being that I don't care...

It is not reasonable not to care about something as the actions of your government, for it shows genuine discernment for your people.

Parthia does consider said actions to be criminal on Parthian national territory, but respects the desires of nations to enforce their own laws. If any hostile attacks on Gilabad are made, Parthia will be forced to respond in the defense of sovereignty.

We, the Holy Empire of Naktan, are not a belligerent nation, but rather one that reasons and does for the greater good of people. We assure your highness that we seek no hostile, while maintaining our firm belief in the sanctity of lives, on national or foreign soil, under those jurisdictions. It is our sacred duty to discuss these things, not necessarily to impose these things.

We heard that Gilabad has convincing arguments that their actions are the right actions, except that we - being negligent and foolish - do not understand why it is the right action. We simply wish to know how this is so, since we are a reasoning peoeple, and a people devoted to God's glory and mercy.

Again, we assure that we do not intend hostility upon them, and we share in the concern that Gilabad may be the target of more belligerent nations. But we hope to learn from them, that we may yet prevent this wrongdoing, for it would not be right for the world to condemn that which is right.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Bjornoya
13-02-2006, 04:44
We grow annoyed with these squabblings of little people and ask the Galabadian Government why valuable bullets, resources, and energy are being wasted on exterminating an already impotent and harmless group of people.
Perhaps Gilabad should concentrate on important issues instead of ruffling the masses with these boorish incidents.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 04:46
I will provide an argument on why they were killed. This is also in no way to justify my governments actions nor is it to convince you. They were killed not only becuase it is a violation of a major law. In Gilabad it is a felony! It's punishable by a minimum of life in prison. The right to kill on scene is also in the bill. It was also done (this is the part that I was trying to give to Gejigrad), because bascially, what Gejigrad was saying is that you can purposefully sin and God will forgive you every time, which to an extent is true, but it is still wrong, and the idea that just because you will be forgiven after you do it so you can do it anyway is wrong! It also spreads AIDs like a wildfire, this is one of the reasons of the bill. So all in all what we did is just our policy. I don't know what you wanted out of this argument.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 04:48
We grow annoyed with these squabblings of little people and ask the Galabadian Government why valuable bullets, resources, and energy are being wasted on exterminating an already impotent and harmless group of people.
Perhaps Gilabad should concentrate on important issues instead of ruffling the masses with these boorish incidents.

We have plenty of bullets, would you like to buy some?
Naktan
13-02-2006, 04:57
I will provide an argument on why they were killed. This is also in no way to justify my governments actions nor is it to convince you. They were killed not only becuase it is a violation of a major law. In Gilabad it is a felony! It's punishable by a minimum of life in prison. The right to kill on scene is also in the bill. It was also done (this is the part that I was trying to give to Gejigrad), because bascially, what Gejigrad was saying is that you can purposefully sin and God will forgive you every time, which to an extent is true, but it is still wrong, and the idea that just because you will be forgiven after you do it so you can do it anyway is wrong! It also spreads AIDs like a wildfire, this is one of the reasons of the bill. So all in all what we did is just our policy. I don't know what you wanted out of this argument.

We do not know how the criminals on Gilabad are tried, either by due process or the other ideals of protecting the innocent. Assumably, these people were obviously hoomosexuals; that obviously places them in the wrong, and subject to the wills of the law (i.e. punishment up to and including death). But killing on the scene seems to be excessive. What you have said is that your law allows this. Is the law right in this respect?

Now, as the Shah of Parthia had said, this is ultimately your decision, and considering that HIs Holy Eminence grows wreary of these thoughts, he would you to consider the nature of your laws, and their respect to the people. Perhaps it is major felony in your land; does your law make it right? While no where in the Bible does it explicitly state to kill all those on the spot for their crimes [reference to Jesus and the adulteress, the many cases of the sins of King David of Israel (killing Uriah, committing adultery with his wife, etc...)], we are wondering where this judgment comes from.

Again, it is your policy, and perhaps we wrongfully leave it at that, but we do not question whether it goes within your policy, for apparently it does; otherwise you wouldn't be arguing on the behalf of your GSP personnel. What we ask is if it is the righteous thing to do.

Again, we leave the debate at this. If at another time your Warlord Shawhabas would like to explain this further, we will gladly pay attention again, and continue to aim at the root of these matters.

On the behalf of His Holy Eminence,

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Sentmierstonia
13-02-2006, 04:59
Announcement from President of Sentmierstonia

The nation of Sentmierstonia was once under the rule of a theocracy and will continue to voice great dissatisfaction with nations under one. Our nation, which stands united now for religious freedom and pacifism feels compassion for the people of Gilabad. Sentmierstonia is offering asylum to all those who wish to free themselves from the oppressive and corrupt rule of those who claim to be in gods favor. With a steep history of violence and ostracism in the name of god, Sentmierstonia opens its doors to all those in Gilabad, be they homosexual or heterosexual. Our nation is aware that exclusion of one group eventually leads to the exclusion of another. In addition any political dissidents of Gilabad, be they homosexual or heterosexual, shall receive sanctuary, asylum, and aid from the Sentmierstonian government.
Intracircumcordei
13-02-2006, 05:02
The Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei offers refugee status to any rich or highly educated GAYS in Gilibad.

We will find you a new home, come live in ICCD, we support public nudity and open public promiscuity.
Xirnium
13-02-2006, 05:05
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Official Government Communiqué, Office of the Foreign Ministry
The Eternal Republic of Holy Xirnium

Ad Vitam Aeternam! – For All Time!
From: Dr Heather Gilda
Foreign Minister
The Eternal Republic of Holy Xirnium


The High Ecclesiarchy is both disgusted and outraged at the utterly criminal and barbarous actions of the Gilabadian government. Their state sanctioned policy of persecution and arbitrary murder of individuals based solely on sexual preference has been deemed by the august government of the Eternal Republic to constitute a genocide under section 187(e) of the International Crimes Act 1987.

This appalling violation, by the Gilabadian government, of the fundamental liberal civil rights which are inherent to all human beings is condemned most vehemently by the High Ecclesiarchy. Effective immediately, full trade and economic sanctions are to be levied against the illegitimate and illogical theocracy of Gildabad. The government of the Eternal Republic also offers asylum to the persecuted citizens of Gilabad.

The High Ecclesiarchy urges all nations to join together in denouncing the Gilabadian government, which is clearly run by dangerous religious despots with shameless disregard for even the most basic human rights. That they attempt to justify their abhorrent policies by the imagined dictates of their supposed god merely confirms the moral bankruptcy of their actions.

[Signed]
Her Eminence
High Lady Dr Heather Gilda, BA (Hons), MA (Hons), PhD
Grand Cardinal and Foreign Minister
The High Ecclesiarchy of the Eternal Republic of Holy Xirnium
The Beltway
13-02-2006, 05:08
The Beltway hereby offers refugee status to any who wish to flee Gilabad. We have made available housing and jobs in and around Lewes, Sussex, Delaware to refugees from that country.
Signed,
Mark Warner, Foreign Minister of The Beltway
Czar Natovski Romanov
13-02-2006, 05:18
Good job in killing all those lawbreakers, since that is the issue here. Citizens should be willing to waive all their rights and freedoms to the demands placed on them by the government. The fact that they were disobeying the law proves that thier punishment was just. Them being gay is not the issue, but how can any nation stand for political dissedents!
The Beltway
13-02-2006, 05:21
To the Government of Czar Natovski Romanov -
Governments are formed when people choose to give up some of their rights in order to ensure their protection. However, there are certain natural rights, such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, that may not be infringed upon. This is basic social contract theory, and we are truly surprised at how poorly you misinterpreted it.
Sincerely,
Mark Warner, Foreign Minister of The Beltway
Otagia
13-02-2006, 05:33
While Otagia and Pale Rider Arms recognize the right of a sovereign nation to enforce any laws they see fit, we are outraged at the actions of Gilabad. Not only has their government engaged in the mass genocide of a people, they have attempted to justify their abhorrent actions with the words of God. From this point on, the state of Gilabad is under embargo from Otagia and Pale Rider Arms. We urge the nations of the world to join us in our actions against one who would warp the words of good men to be used for evil.
Yours,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
Regent-Elect of Otagia
Sentmierstonia
13-02-2006, 05:39
Announcement from President of Sentmierstonia

Effective at 12 midnight EST Sentmierstonia will embargo all products from Gilabad. In addition Sentmierstonia will be selling arms to rebel groups inside the country. The small navy and Relief Force is enroot to the country, which will arrive in 20-30 hours. The force will not engage in fighting, but will be there to support rebel groups, drop supplies, and to aid refugees from Gilabad in its impending genocide.
Naktan
13-02-2006, 06:02
The Rogue Nation of Gilabad is a massive, economically powerful nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 4.403 billion are ruled with an iron fist by the corrupt, dictatorship government, which oppresses anyone who isn't on the board of a Fortune 500 company. Large corporations tend to be above the law, and use their financial clout to gain ever-increasing government benefits at the expense of the poor and unemployed.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, pro-business government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Public Transport. The average income tax rate is 100%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Uranium Mining industry, followed by Gambling and Beef-Based Agriculture.

The government helps teach children how to kill a man from six paces, movies and computer games are strictly censored for violence, the people are famous throughout the region for their bleached-white teeth, and graffiti artists spend lengthy periods of time in jail. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Gilabad's national animal is the scorpian, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the gun.

While the Holy Empire of Naktan condemns the actions of the government of Gilabad, we do not support the intrusion of its national sovereignty by means of covert force or the like. Rather than force the nation to the means of some means of internal conflict, it is better to persuade them of their actions and change to a regime that is more supportive of its people.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission

unless you have a very nice military alliance going and he doesn't, i would suggest handing down the conflict ordeal. besides, he isn't even here to retaliate...nonetheless, diplomatic pressure seems to be working in some part, so as a small nation (of course, your nation is significantly larger...), I think that would be better to avoid some kind of war. But as it is in the world and with national sovereignty, neither will i stop him nor you in your exploits - as if I even had the power to do so anyway...
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 06:31
Naktan, it is a major felony in Gilabad to be Gay. It's a law that the people voted on. They did break the law, and the Anti-gay bill does state that they can be shot on site.

Sentmierstonia, I as Warlord Shawhabas dare you to try and drop supplies in my country, or even get anywhere near it for that matter. Your cargo aircraft would be obliterated before they even reached the Gilabadian border by the barrage of SAMs, fighters, particle beam sattelites etc..

Naktan, my nation is 4 times larger than Sentmierstonia! (in population)
Magdha
13-02-2006, 06:52
"While we certainly do not approve of this nation's actions, we respect their right to govern themselves as they see fit, and thus, we will not intervene in anyway. So long as this government does not export terrorism or promote the cause of world communism, their actions are of no concern to us."

--Foreign Minister Diana Cheng--
Helfaer
13-02-2006, 13:57
"Ah, how low have the unbelievers stooped! Slaying homosexuals in the name of their weakling God, convincing themselves that they have some meager power over life and death. And verily, their God is weak, for he is as dust before the blood and thunder of our lord and master Leviathan, whose gaze shatters worlds and whose cry rends the heavens in two. Pathetic pewling savages. Leviathan shall render judgement on you for your hypocrisy and cowardliness!"

High Priest of Leviathan, morning sermon, 13.2.06


ooc: Not my RL opinion, so don't flame me.
Quaon
13-02-2006, 14:43
Earlier today, the Gilabad Secret Police (GSP) raided a suspected "Gay" hideout in the southern sector of Gilabad DF (capitol). Upon braking in, they found 29 men and 18 women who were not only Gay but were taking part in Gay marriages. This of course is strictly illegal due to article 3 of the "Anti-Gay" bill. The GSP immediately lined them up on the wall along the street and made a final count of how many there were. Then they were given a chance to explain themselves. Most of their arguments were that the Gilbadian government was wrong in prohibiting Gay marrriagess. Then the GSP loaded their weapons which included UMP 45s, USAS-12 full auto shotguns, and MP5A4s. They took aim fired. First they aimed at their feet and worked their way up so they would die slowly. After their magazines were completely unloaded, they urinated on the bodies and threw what was left of them into the local sewer system, via a manhole.The Free Empire of Quaon is disgusted by this act of barbarism and herby condemns Gilabad's actions. We would also like to give all homosexuals in Gilabad a chance to immigrate to Quaon while they still have can. They will be granted refugee status.

Gilabad is taking actions against UN regulations, which they have prior agreed to. I demand that they resign from the UN immediatly. I also demand that the UN sends an inspector to make sure Gilabad is following international law.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 15:32
The Kingdom of Andredswald is utterly disgusted by the barbaric actions of this nation and condemn the brutal murders. We believe this action, and the very law used to justify this act of violence to be in complete violation of basic human rights, and resolutions of the United Nations, to which this nation is meant to adhere.

We urge the members of the UN to take action to prevent any future recurrence and wish to inform The Rogue Nation of Gilabad that the Kingdom of Andred and it's allies the Republics of Andred and Kostanic refuse to grace the rogue nation in question with regards to diplomatic missions and will act to put in place an embargo against all Gilabadian goods within the borders of the nations of the Andredian peninsula, until such a time as it repeals its barbaric law.

The King of Andredswald further wishes to inform any GLBT persons residing in The Rogue Nation of Gilabad that the Kingdom of Andredswald would welcome them with open arms.

As a footnote, the Kingdom of Andredswald would like to restate it's belief that all nations are sovereign and hold the right to govern themselves how they wish - however, human rights are universal and are inviolable.

- The Rt. Hon. Robert Atkins
- Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury
- His Majesty's Government
- The Kingdom of Andredswald
Naktan
13-02-2006, 16:53
Naktan, it is a major felony in Gilabad to be Gay. It's a law that the people voted on. They did break the law, and the Anti-gay bill does state that they can be shot on site.

Sentmierstonia, I as Warlord Shawhabas dare you to try and drop supplies in my country, or even get anywhere near it for that matter. Your cargo aircraft would be obliterated before they even reached the Gilabadian border by the barrage of SAMs, fighters, particle beam sattelites etc..

Naktan, my nation is 4 times larger than Sentmierstonia! (in population)

in reference to last comment, i was trying to deter sentmierstonia from doing the national sovereignty infringment for that very reason; cuz chances were, he be squash like bug...i do my research...

And referencing that first comment, we're trying to determine whether it is right. I'm not asking if your people made it right; I'm asking that if you were gay and you were being charged with the same exact charge - and without a trial - shot, riddled, defamed, desecrated, and overall made to be non-existent, would that be right? I'm saying you are - I'm asking you to think in that situation, if you were to be judged in the same way, would you judge yourself that way? Would you say to yourself that I am not worthy to live because I am what the law is against, therefore I am worth nothing the dust beneath my toes because I am not dust, I am not toes, and I am not anything that is worth the life, because I am that which is despicable. Therefore, I have no right to my own body because I have misused it, and thus it is therefore right for others to treat my body as I have treated it. Think about it; not everyone agrees with homosexuality - I, for one. But I don't agree that killing them indiscriminately, without the opportunity to realize their faults, or to change them, or to pray for them. To kill an infidel is making your brand of religious extremism comparable to the Muslims who claim that the word of God is in them and commands the death of all the people who are not in the right of the way of Allah (God, if it so pleases you). In truth, both Christianity and Islam are peace loving religions, simply misused over time to the wills of belligerent, unholy folk who thence defame the name and the ideal of being a Christian or a Muslim.

If you can prove to me that killing these people is right, then I congratulate you for proving that extremist Muslims were right for 9/11, for the USS Cole, for all the things that they did in London, Madrid, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and all the other places that aren't coming to mind. Not only, condoning the death of people who are found beneath the Christian doctrine should be killed, because we err in not doing that; all those adulterers, those liars, those stealers, those impious folk, those who cherish the good life, those who vain speakers, those add unto the book and those who detract from it. What you proposer I cannot follow, because God also says to love your neighbor as yourself, and I would lovev myself enough to know that I would not leave my body broken, nor would I leave the bodies of those you call infidels broken.

This was all OOC, so there is no diplomatic dialogue here. This is my opinion of why the nation of Gilabad would be wrong. And according to the laws, I would killed in that state and/or heavily persecuted, because I do make associations with the Gentiles and the unclean folk, only because I love them too much to pass the unrighteous from doing their bidding. I don't say that I criticize you; I don't know you. I only happen to know Gilabad, and Gilabad does wrong by killing its citizens, those who confide in their nation to do the right thing. I hope this brings reflection to your nation's leaders.

OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUE TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
The Holy Empire of Naktan officially condemns the Rogue State of Gilabad and asks that other nations join in this condemnation in the UN body, whereas while such actions might be not agaist explicit laws as written in the UN, these actions present a clear and present danger to the citizens of Gilabad.

His Holy Eminence hopes that the nation of Gilabad may yet turn from these horrid atrocities and present its citizens with fairness and equality of the soul.

Prime Minister Sodryestos Karmala
Imperial Advisor to His Holy Eminence
Quaon
13-02-2006, 17:32
Also, note, that the repeal of gay rights does not allow this act of barbarism,
Borman Empire
13-02-2006, 18:03
Official Imperial Statment:

International law does not exist. Gilabad is free to do what they wish within their own borders.
Otagia
13-02-2006, 18:09
Official Imperial Statment:

International law does not exist. Gilabad is free to do what they wish within their own borders.
OOC: Actually, it does. Gilabad is a UN member, so he's bound by all the annoying little UN resolutions.
Quaon
13-02-2006, 18:11
Official Imperial Statment:

International law does not exist. Gilabad is free to do what they wish within their own borders.
Gilabad is in the UN.
Quaon
13-02-2006, 21:51
By the powers invested in me as secretary of the IASP (http://s15.invisionfree.com/IASP/index.php?act=idx) military, I, Rian Julian, officially condemn Gilabad. All trade from ISAP nations will stop with Gilabad. All other nations are encouraged to destroy all ties with Gilabad. That is all.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 21:57
By the powers invested in me as secretary of the IASP (http://s15.invisionfree.com/IASP/index.php?act=idx) military, I, Rian Julian, officially condemn Gilabad. All trade from IASP nations will stop with Gilabad. All other nations are encouraged to destroy all ties with Gilabad. That is all.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/VanLuxemburg/519c9889.jpg

Further to the statement made by Rian Julian, the International Alliance for Safety and Peace would like to release the following statement:

========================

The IASP...

AWARE of the following report:

"Earlier today, the Gilabad Secret Police (GSP) raided a suspected "Gay" hideout in the southern sector of Gilabad DF (capitol). Upon braking in, they found 29 men and 18 women who were not only Gay but were taking part in Gay marriages. This of course is strictly illegal due to article 3 of the "Anti-Gay" bill. The GSP immediately lined them up on the wall along the street and made a final count of how many there were. Then they were given a chance to explain themselves. Most of their arguments were that the Gilbadian government was wrong in prohibiting Gay marrriagess. Then the GSP loaded their weapons which included UMP 45s, USAS-12 full auto shotguns, and MP5A4s. They took aim fired. First they aimed at their feet and worked their way up so they would die slowly. After their magazines were completely unloaded, they urinated on the bodies and threw what was left of them into the local sewer system, via a manhole."

FINDING this act to be despicable and in violation of basic human rights

FINDING this act also to be one of the universal crimes as designated by the ISAP

IN THE KNOWLEDGE that the Rogue Nation of Gilabad is in violation of UN resolutions

CONDEMNS the acts of brutal murder perpetrated by the Gilabad Secret Police and

CALLS UPON the government of The Rogue Nation of Gilabad to cease any similar activity and respect the universal right of human's to life.

Signed by the General Council of the IASP
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:16
By what army do you have to execute your authority? If the IASP is like the UN in which they can only talk and have no army, then you really can't do anything. It was my nation's law, they broke it, they paid for it!
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:19
By what army do you have to execute your authority? If the IASP is like the UN in which they can only talk and have no army, then you really can't do anything. It was my nation's law, they broke it, they paid for it!
We have an army. That of the army in every member nation.

Etheir stop this madness, or resign from the UN. You are breaking regulations that you have agreed to, you warmonger.
Magdha
13-02-2006, 22:19
Official Imperial Statment:

International law does not exist. Gilabad is free to do what they wish within their own borders.

"Amen."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:21
"Amen."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
Again, they are a member of the UN. They should obey the UN's rules.
Amazonian Beasts
13-02-2006, 22:22
Official Imperial Statment:

International law does not exist. Gilabad is free to do what they wish within their own borders.
Agreed...the laws of the UN can be nullified by simply leaving the liberally-biased organization.
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:23
Agreed...the laws of the UN can be nullified by simply leaving the liberally-biased organization.
Than those barbarians should resign. If they don't, somebody is going to come around and force them to.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:24
in reference to last comment, i was trying to deter sentmierstonia from doing the national sovereignty infringment for that very reason; cuz chances were, he be squash like bug...i do my research...

And referencing that first comment, we're trying to determine whether it is right. I'm not asking if your people made it right; I'm asking that if you were gay and you were being charged with the same exact charge - and without a trial - shot, riddled, defamed, desecrated, and overall made to be non-existent, would that be right? I'm saying you are - I'm asking you to think in that situation, if you were to be judged in the same way, would you judge yourself that way? Would you say to yourself that I am not worthy to live because I am what the law is against, therefore I am worth nothing the dust beneath my toes because I am not dust, I am not toes, and I am not anything that is worth the life, because I am that which is despicable. Therefore, I have no right to my own body because I have misused it, and thus it is therefore right for others to treat my body as I have treated it. Think about it; not everyone agrees with homosexuality - I, for one. But I don't agree that killing them indiscriminately, without the opportunity to realize their faults, or to change them, or to pray for them. To kill an infidel is making your brand of religious extremism comparable to the Muslims who claim that the word of God is in them and commands the death of all the people who are not in the right of the way of Allah (God, if it so pleases you). In truth, both Christianity and Islam are peace loving religions, simply misused over time to the wills of belligerent, unholy folk who thence defame the name and the ideal of being a Christian or a Muslim.

If you can prove to me that killing these people is right, then I congratulate you for proving that extremist Muslims were right for 9/11, for the USS Cole, for all the things that they did in London, Madrid, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and all the other places that aren't coming to mind. Not only, condoning the death of people who are found beneath the Christian doctrine should be killed, because we err in not doing that; all those adulterers, those liars, those stealers, those impious folk, those who cherish the good life, those who vain speakers, those add unto the book and those who detract from it. What you proposer I cannot follow, because God also says to love your neighbor as yourself, and I would lovev myself enough to know that I would not leave my body broken, nor would I leave the bodies of those you call infidels broken.

This was all OOC, so there is no diplomatic dialogue here. This is my opinion of why the nation of Gilabad would be wrong. And according to the laws, I would killed in that state and/or heavily persecuted, because I do make associations with the Gentiles and the unclean folk, only because I love them too much to pass the unrighteous from doing their bidding. I don't say that I criticize you; I don't know you. I only happen to know Gilabad, and Gilabad does wrong by killing its citizens, those who confide in their nation to do the right thing. I hope this brings reflection to your nation's leaders.

OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUE TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
The Holy Empire of Naktan officially condemns the Rogue State of Gilabad and asks that other nations join in this condemnation in the UN body, whereas while such actions might be not agaist explicit laws as written in the UN, these actions present a clear and present danger to the citizens of Gilabad.

His Holy Eminence hopes that the nation of Gilabad may yet turn from these horrid atrocities and present its citizens with fairness and equality of the soul.

Prime Minister Sodryestos Karmala
Imperial Advisor to His Holy Eminence

If I was gay and I was in Gilabad, I'd either leave or turn myself in. The fact that they were in Gilabad shows their rebelliousness against the law, and the fact that they were part of an underground organization that was specifically trying to commit fellonies in Gilabad shows that they were, no matter how barbaric, dealt with according to the law!
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:25
If I was gay and I was in Gilabad, I'd either leave or turn myself in. The fact that they were in Gilabad shows their rebelliousness against the law, and the fact that they were part of an underground organization that was specifically trying to commit fellonies in Gilabad shows that they were, no matter how barbaric, dealt with according to the law!
And your laws are againt a UN resolution, which you have agreed to. I say again: resign or stand down.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:26
The "Gay Rights" resolution was repealed! The Anti-Gay bill is in no way in violation of the UN!
Otagia
13-02-2006, 22:31
You may be interested to learn that the UN has several resolutions against genocide, and several defining basic human rights. You are in clear violation of all of these.
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:31
The "Gay Rights" resolution was repealed! The Anti-Gay bill is in no way in violation of the UN!
You didn't read the repeal, did you? It stated that "Gay Rights" was redundant because of "Universal Human Rights." The repeal noted that it would not allow discrimination against homosexual.
Gruenberg
13-02-2006, 22:35
I would just like to confirm that the actions were in violation of international law; the repeal of "Gay Rights" does not change that, as that was an administrative, not a legislative, repeal.

~Lori Jiffjeff
Legal Aide to the Gruenberger Office of UN Affairs
Senior Minister for Sandy Vaginas
Naktan
13-02-2006, 22:39
If I was gay and I was in Gilabad, I'd either leave or turn myself in. The fact that they were in Gilabad shows their rebelliousness against the law, and the fact that they were part of an underground organization that was specifically trying to commit fellonies in Gilabad shows that they were, no matter how barbaric, dealt with according to the law!

This statement reveals that you truly believe in your morals and it is admirable to say that. The problem that we have with the law is not whether your law is correct, but whether in the general context of things, that the law would stand in international law. As a member of the UN, your nation tacitly agrees with the concepts of fairness, basic human rights, fair trials, rights and equalities. In that accordance, the law is wrong in itself. If I were in your case, I would do the rebelling because that is the right thing to do - to reveal the fallacy of your law. Leaving the country or tacitly agreeing to the whole deal shows that you don't wish to debate against the legality of it (unless by turning yourself in, you mean that you willingly commit your body to the same variety of death as the death that your guards committed, in which case, that perhaps is righteous in itself).

We do not argue on the matter of whether homosexuality is legal or not; we argue on the manner in which the convicted were treated and likewise in the manner that the law was constructed. If your law stated that these people, being citizens conducting themselves in a manner against the laww, were indeed entitled to fair trial and due process, there would be less of a problem. Instead, your law explicitly states that these people - once found - can (or appropriately will) be killed on the spot, denying these people the basic rights of humans - due process of law, fair trial, and among others life, liberty, and the pursuits of happiness.

For this, the Holy Empire of Naktan condemns this action.

Zenhahar Virduzhe
Administrator
Office of Imperial Orders and Relations Commission
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:39
By what army does the UN plan to execute action?
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:42
Oh and by the way, I have never agreed with the UN about "Universal of Human Rights"! You keep saying that I "agreed" with these resolutions, I have never agreed with that particular resolution!
Magdha
13-02-2006, 22:43
"Gilabad, I would be honored if you would join the Who Gives a Damn About Human Rights Club."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:43
By what army does the UN plan to execute action?
By other members of the UN. We would, however, like to negoitiate some kind of compromise between our nations. Perhaps you could send all homosexuals to Quaon? They would, of course, be granted refugee status. You could also keep yourself in the UN.
Amazonian Beasts
13-02-2006, 22:44
"Gilabad, I would be honored if you would join the Who Gives a Damn About Human Rights Club."

--Generalissimo J.L.--
As would I, I would love to see you there amidst our esteemed ranks.
Naktan
13-02-2006, 22:44
Oh and by the way, I have never agreed with the UN about "Universal of Human Rights"! You keep saying that I "agreed" with these resolutions, I have never agreed with that particular resolution!

by being a member, you tacitly agree to abide by all of the resolutions passed in the UN, whether or not you actually agree with them.
The Beltway
13-02-2006, 22:44
Your being a UN member implies agreement with all UN resolutions. As many others have said, resign or apologize for your actions and repeal the law that banned gays and prescribed the death penalty as punishment, without even permitting the bare minimum of due process.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 22:46
Oh and by the way, I have never agreed with the UN about "Universal of Human Rights"! You keep saying that I "agreed" with these resolutions, I have never agreed with that particular resolution!

By being a member of the United Nations, you are bound to EVERY one of its resolutions. If you do not like it, you are always welcome to leave.

By what army does the UN plan to execute action?

The UN is not, from what I have read, planning to execute any actions. The UN has not made any sort of official comment either. However, many Member States of the UN have condemned your actions, if not because of the brutality, but because you are in violation of International Law you agreed to when you joined the UN.

The Kingdom of Andredswald would urge you to leave the UN, if you find yourself unable to comply with international law.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 22:47
Your being a UN member implies agreement with all UN resolutions. As many others have said, resign or apologize for your actions and repeal the law that banned gays and prescribed the death penalty as punishment, without even permitting the bare minimum of due process.

The Kingdom of Andredswald would concur with The Beltway on this matter.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:55
In reply to Magda, I'll have to check whether I'm in that organization or not.

Anyway, I would be happy to round up all homosexuals and transport them to one of your countries, except I fear that they would only return to restart the underground organization that the members recently killed were apart of. That was the whole reason they were here! I already said that they could simply leave!
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 22:57
I would strongly advise everyone to stop bringing up the UN. I could really care less about it. All they can do is talk talk talk! They have no army, they can't do anything! Oh KOFIE ANAN YOU SCARE ME IN YOUR 5000$ SUIT!
Quaon
13-02-2006, 22:58
In reply to Magda, I'll have to check whether I'm in that organization or not.

Anyway, I would be happy to round up all homosexuals and transport them to one of your countries, except I fear that they would only return to restart the underground organization that the members recently killed were apart of. That was the whole reason they were here! I already said that they could simply leave!
Please. We of the IASP will not let them return to Gilabad.

------------------
In Quaon City.

Prime Minister of Quaon, Quin Orbor, was writing a propasel to make it illegal to enter Gilabad in case of war.:p
Amazonian Beasts
13-02-2006, 23:00
I would strongly advise everyone to stop bringing up the UN. I could really care less about it. All they can do is talk talk talk! They have no army, they can't do anything! Oh KOFIE ANAN YOU SCARE ME IN YOUR 5000$ SUIT!
The NSUN is different from the RL UN. Kofie Anan doesn't exist here.
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 23:01
It is done then. The GSP are rounding up and detaining all homosexuals and are preparing them for transportation to other countries. All nations willing to accept these ins....people please say now.

-Warlord Shawhabas
Quaon
13-02-2006, 23:01
I would strongly advise everyone to stop bringing up the UN. I could really care less about it. All they can do is talk talk talk! They have no army, they can't do anything! Oh KOFIE ANAN YOU SCARE ME IN YOUR 5000$ SUIT!
Actually, they can invade your region and kick your entire country out of it. It happens a lot.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 23:03
It is done then. The GSP are rounding up and detaining all homosexuals and are preparing them for transportation to other countries. All nations willing to accept these ins....people please say now.

-Warlord Shawhabas

The Kingdom of Andredswald is glad you have taken this step, even if it is not done in the best manner, for their own safety the Kingdom of Andredswald is willing to take as many of these refugees as you see fit to send to us.
The Beltway
13-02-2006, 23:03
We have already stated that we'll take in refugees.
-Mark Warner, Foreign Minister of The Beltway
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 23:04
Actually, they can invade your region and kick your entire country out of it. It happens a lot.

Oh don't you mean "peacekeepers". Bah this makes me chuckle! Anyway do you want these.....people or not!?!
Quaon
13-02-2006, 23:04
It is done then. The GSP are rounding up and detaining all homosexuals and are preparing them for transportation to other countries. All nations willing to accept these ins....people please say now.

-Warlord Shawhabas
Mr. Shawnhasbas, Quaon would be happy to take the lot of them.
Magdha
13-02-2006, 23:05
If you decide to join, here's the link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468375
Gilabad
13-02-2006, 23:06
6,000 "refugees" are being loaded on to C-5 Galaxies and are being sent to each of your countries. Make it be known, if they try to enter Gilabad again, they will be shot!
Dostanuot Loj
13-02-2006, 23:07
OOC: Gilabad, technically as you are a UN member, and a UN delegate at that, you are bound to their resolutions, regardless. This is the Nation Sttes UN, not the real UN.
Of course you can always get around that by just leaving the UN, otherwise you're bound to their resolutions. And I believe some of the older UN crowd might just say whatever you did here magically didn't happen (As I have seen happen with this stuff before.)
Gruenberg
13-02-2006, 23:08
OOC: Actually, most UN regulars consider the gnomes and automatic compliance to be mildly wanky. Good RPed non-compliance is always interesting.
Quaon
13-02-2006, 23:14
OOC: Actually, most UN regulars consider the gnomes and automatic compliance to be mildly wanky. Good RPed non-compliance is always interesting.
OOC: Agreed.
The Parthians
13-02-2006, 23:42
The "Gay Rights" resolution was repealed! The Anti-Gay bill is in no way in violation of the UN!

OOC: My advice is to resign from the UN. Then there is no way they can impede upon your national policies. I am not and never will join the UN, ever.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 23:43
OOC: My advice is to resign from the UN. Then there is no way they can impede upon your national policies. I am not and never will join the UN, ever.

Exactly.
Andredswald
13-02-2006, 23:57
"...and none of you vile animals is to ever return to Gilabad - or you know what will happen!!!" the GSP officer finished, spitting on the ground in front of the group of refugees that had just been thrown off the C-5 Galaxy they had arrived on.

He turned, and climbed back up the stairs and re-entered the aircraft. The refugees stood there, many covered in bruises and brandishing black eyes from the sudden shock of being woken in the night and dragged from their homes into vans...then being thrown on this plane, then dumped...here. Wherever 'here' was. All they had been told was that some "disgusting country with no morals" had agreed to take the "animals", meaning the refugees, off the hands of the Gilabadians.

The plane's engines began to start up again, as the fuel tanker and mobile platform withdrew. There was no going back.

Matthew Collins wondered what was going to happen next - what was to become of them? His pulse began to race, he looked around for any sign of someone from this god-forsaken country to come help them. He looked down at himself...he was in his nightwear, splattered with the blood from his partner - he'd resisted, he'd been beaten up badly. They'd taken him away on another plane...

Matt fell to the floor, he hung his head in his hands. As he heard the roar of the C-5's engines as they flew off, he could also make out the sound of a smaller, vehicle engine.

He looked up, in hope and desperation. It was a jeep. There were men on the back, they wore army uniforms, but their helmets were white and they carried no weapon. The vehicle stopped nearby the group, and one of them jumped off.

"Greetings. My name is Captain Lawrence. I'm with the Andredswald Civil Defense Force. You are safe. We are here to help you...do not be afraid"

[OOC: Forgive my little indulgence, I couldn't resist]
Quaon
14-02-2006, 00:40
The rest of the Gilabad homosexuals arrived in Quaon.

"Where are we?" one chirped up.

"Quaon," a security guard escorting the refugees said. "Your safe now. In Quaon you have the right to whatever sexual orientation you want."
Borman Empire
14-02-2006, 00:51
Than those barbarians should resign. If they don't, somebody is going to come around and force them to.

Try it, we dare you.
Quaon
14-02-2006, 00:57
Try it, we dare you.
As the situation is defused, I see no need.
The Beltway
14-02-2006, 00:58
"Dover AFB, this is Gilabad Transport Squadron Three, requesting clearance for our planes to land, over," the plane radioed out. Sergeant Tori Heller, Traffic Controller at Dover AFB, shook her head disgustedly, then replied, "Gilabad, we copy. You are given permission to land."

"Sergeant Heller to runway 39, please," the base commandant announced over the intercom. Heller, leaving the tower in the hands of the other men and women there, went down to join The Beltway's reception team. She was a tad nervous; after all, she, a mere sergeant, was in the presence of Thad Cochrane and Carlos Gutierrez, the captain of industry and the next Prime Minister (at least in her view).

The C-5s landed; Heller smiled at their grimy appearance. It comforted her somehow that men she considered evil couldn't properly maintain their aircraft. Then, the rear doors opened, and 2,000 refugees were pushed out.

"You're safe here; you'll have jobs, homes, and a life free from fear here," Heller screamed out across the tarmac, out-shouting the GSP agents' angry yells. She smiled, and shook the hands of the first refugees to come shambling out to where the reception committee was standing.

Lori Heller had always dreamed of making a difference; today, she knew she had. And so she couldn't stop smiling.
Gilabad
14-02-2006, 03:29
OK I don't have a problem with it this time, but just for future preferance, it's not good to RP for other people without permission. The black eye thing was very good, that's what I would've RPed. By the way, when did I ever say we didn't take care of our aircrafts?!?
The Beltway
14-02-2006, 03:37
I never said that you don't; C-5s are pretty old by 2016 (the year I'm in right now, rp-wise), and the short piece I did is done from the perspective, although done at a slight distance, of a woman who hates Gilabad. By the way, 'grimy' doesn't mean 'ill-maintained.'
Gilabad
14-02-2006, 03:38
OK so it's just an opinion of a woman who hates Gilabad.
Andredswald
14-02-2006, 11:33
OK I don't have a problem with it this time, but just for future preferance, it's not good to RP for other people without permission. The black eye thing was very good, that's what I would've RPed. By the way, when did I ever say we didn't take care of our aircrafts?!?

OOC: Apologies. But I'm glad I portrayed it in a manner you liked.
Moronyicka
09-05-2006, 13:57
The Imperial Kingdom commends these honorable acts. We have cleansed moronyicka of gays in the past and it has only made our nation greater.

~King Jedo~
Mer des Ennuis
09-05-2006, 16:48
The Armed Republic of Mer Des Ennuis would happily take as many Gilabad homosexuals into our country. While we have no place to put them, I'm sure I could make room on the pristine Mer Des Ennuis Napalm Proving Grounds/Artillery Range. Its a beautiful area, with ambiet temperatures between 70* and 2000* depending on the day. We have a new compound we'd love to test out in the upcoming months. Let me know if you approve; we can even ship a test supply to Gilabad!
Borman Empire
10-05-2006, 00:00
Don't grave dig.
Kubra
10-05-2006, 00:15
Message courtesy of Kurbanai messaging service.

Kubra, like many other nations, also condemns this act of pointless bloodshed. When people die because they're different is a sad day indeed.
Kubra
10-05-2006, 00:17
The Armed Republic of Mer Des Ennuis would happily take as many Gilabad homosexuals into our country. While we have no place to put them, I'm sure I could make room on the pristine Mer Des Ennuis Napalm Proving Grounds/Artillery Range. Its a beautiful area, with ambiet temperatures between 70* and 2000* depending on the day. We have a new compound we'd love to test out in the upcoming months. Let me know if you approve; we can even ship a test supply to Gilabad! So you would use human lives for such barbaric practices? What is the earth coming to?
The Xeno
10-05-2006, 00:26
The Armed Republic of Mer Des Ennuis would happily take as many Gilabad homosexuals into our country. While we have no place to put them, I'm sure I could make room on the pristine Mer Des Ennuis Napalm Proving Grounds/Artillery Range. Its a beautiful area, with ambiet temperatures between 70* and 2000* depending on the day. We have a new compound we'd love to test out in the upcoming months. Let me know if you approve; we can even ship a test supply to Gilabad!

Trying to paint a target on yourself as well?
Amazonian Beasts
10-05-2006, 00:26
OOC: Where in snap did this thread emerge from, Hell itself?? THis is ancient!
Kubra
10-05-2006, 00:28
OOC: Where in snap did this thread emerge from, Hell itself?? THis is ancient! OOC: Hell just now spat it out.
Mer des Ennuis
10-05-2006, 01:17
I think I found it on the 3rd or 4th page. I'm not sure if this is pre or post ICLU beltway-gilabad war. The pilots don't ask whats on the proving grounds, they just bomb it. daily.
Borman Empire
10-05-2006, 02:07
This thread is months old, it's dead. No reason to post. (Except telling you it is dead. Or asking where the thread came from)
Gilabad
11-05-2006, 01:41
Yeah this was pre-Beltway/Gilabad. All of the homosexuals were killed or were deported.