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is this beginners at rp or beginning nations?

[OOC: Define 'beginner'.

While I am fairly new to RP, I've been here a while and have over three billion people. Would I count as a beginner, or not?]

beggining at RPing definately. Yeah. And me, personally, am just really pissed at the bigger 'know-it-all' nations that judge how good you are by your nation's pop. I have been RPing for 2 years, and still get crap respect.

[Ok, in that case count me in, I don't have all too much else to do lately.]

Counts us in. More war the better.

((On the ocntrary, I can roleplay, but have just begun Nationstates today. I've rped on Battlemaster and WoW, and have created two fueding nations to begin with. New Syrrocia being the newly forge state that seceded and is at war with the Principality of Syrrocia. Republic vs Principality, read a bit of Machiavelli for that, anyway I'd love to rp with any of you even though you did say beginner rp I dont mind beginners. Anyway, whatever I'll watch and see what happens))

[OOC:I'm in. Forgot proper RP etiquitte. Sorry!] UberPenguinLandReturns will participate in this war, but only with a small force, as we are rebuilding from a natural disaster. A giant earthquake split our capital in 2. Riots happened, and then the riots turned into a civil war. The rest wasn't good. We're stable again now, so we would like to test our military, so to speak. We'll send 500 troops with BARs and Bowie Knifes. This is about 1/4 of our military. We don't have transport vehicles or artillery yet, but we might soon.

UPLR Minister of War,
Eric Tellir

(OOC: I'm an experienced RPer, but I have yet to play any war RPs on Nationstates, thus making me a technical beginner. Does that count?)

I'd like to think of myself as an experienced RPer, though I've never actually had the chance to do it here, on the Jolt forums. I'd really be interested in this, so as soon as someone knows something for sure, as in time, setting and all that jazz...let me know.

I'd be in i've done lots of RPs in nationstates but generally we end up with some idiot tech wanking or godmodding everywhere (or radically playing out of character for their nation) which kills it very shortly afterward. I also don't know much about modern technology (ask me about any time before 1850 ish and i'll give you a treatese)

I've got 2 nations
the first is a socialist nation (my own variety of socialist) of 100 and something million.

The other is a capitalist hell hole (oddly I find I can think this way scaringly easily) of 29 million

[OOC: That's ok Evoleerf, you can just catch on from watching the rest of us... ;)

Do we have any other type of plans for this war RP? For ex., what should spark it? Why will each of our nations have a reason to get involved? Are WMDs allowed? and so on. I'm assuming it's modern tech, correct me if I'm wrong.]

[OOC: Could someone telegram me when this starts? I normally stay out of II.]

[All right.]

OOC: Here are some common war themes for MT/PMT...

Territory, Differences in Belief turned violent, assassination or terrorist attack by nation. Or you can make up your own nations, then RP a civil war, each person taking a side, but theres too many here I feel. Some wars can be simple imperialism. If you need help I can keep an eye out and watch things. ;)

[OCC: I wouldn't mind joining just need a time of when, plus I'm a noob and would like to learn how to role-play a war. Of course my economy is down but our sprits are up.

ooc: Count me in. I need something to do, and I've never been in a proper war RP. By the way, there seem to be a lot of us interested, so would it be more efficient to pair up and have a lot of little wars? From what I've seen big wars tend to go downhill very quickly, because no-one can keep track of everything.

If we do this, it might be an idea to make each thread a closed RP, as standard doctrine on these forums seems to be that anyone with under 100 posts who starts a war is a good target for invasion.

what is rp:gundge:

[OOC: Read the stickies. RP=Role Play, IC=In Character(when you're roleplaying a character), OOC=Out of Character(When you aren't roleplaying any characters. This is normally for planning, asking for clarification, etc.). In this subforum(Internatonal Incidents), you must have all OOC comments in this format:
[OOC:words] or at least something similar, to distinguish it from IC comments.
Also, capitalization and overall good grammar is expected. Smilies and bad grammar are frowned upon.]

In this subforum(Internatonal Incidents), you must have all OOC comments in this format:
[OOC:words] or at least something similar, to distinguish it from IC comments.
Actually, I've seen [ooc:] -comment-[OOC:] -comment-OOC: -comment- as well... but yeah, all OOC text must be preceded by the heading to distinguish between it and the IC stuff.

To answer everyones questions: Ok, it doesn't matter what region you liver in, we all live right next to each other. It is MT/PMT, and one unkown nation sneds a spy claiming to be from another nation, and natoin B sends spy to nation C, the spy in Nation C said he/shes from Nation D, so there will be a bunch of mini-wars, eventually erupting into one huge war as people ask for allies help, also there are two diffrent alliances. One is more capitalist, the other is more socialist/communist.

Alliance of Capitalists are:
Altusha
Eastest Westlands
Chevvy Rocks
Helfaer
Xiantia

Total pop:


Alliance of Communist/Socialist are:
UberPangiunLandReturns
Krendakov
Sliver Equity
Mauvasia
The Dylanites

mind if i join? i may be big and i may not be new to RPing wars but it has been a while sense i RPed a MT war and this looks like a good way to start

Communist/Socialist

OOC: I'd like to join. I'm new to the RP part of this (as well as posting on the boards), though I've been playing the game for about three months. I'd like to not get largely involved in a ground war, but I'd be willing to provide a bit of air support.

Edit: I'd participate with the Capitalists.

:mp5: OOC; How you all doing? Well i'm a newbie here I have been reading the forums for about two weeks haven't rp yet but sure looking forward to it.:sniper:


Emperor Cuathemoc
Empire of the Cahuitle

Definitely a capitalist here.

I joined two days ago and still have very little idea what i am doing with all this but once i develop a military i would like to join. So far my activities have only been deciding issues and joining the UN. For the moment i havent even worked out my population.

I joined two days ago and still have very little idea what i am doing with all this but once i develop a military i would like to join. So far my activities have only been deciding issues and joining the UN. For the moment i havent even worked out my population.

ooc: Your population is on your nation page.

OOC:
Can I participate, I have taken part in a couple of war Rps, but I'm not very good and cannot do strategy very well? I'm hoping to learn, but it's hard when you get to 2 billion+ because the other nations of that size are actually good at war Rps. I think this is a good idea (and could easily become a regular occurrence on the forums) as many nations (big and small) feel as though they don't know how to RP very well, and need somewhere to start.

I would be on the socialist side, as I RP like I am the USSR/CCCP. If any nation would want to be a satellite state, I'm open for applications! :-P

EW will join to side of capitalists.

We socialists are screwed. It's like 4 or 5 vs 2.

We socialists are screwed. It's like 4 or 5 vs 2.

[ooc: I could fight for the socialists instead if you would like. My nation cares far less about economic policy than victory and the plunder it brings, so they would concievably fight on either side if they thought it would benefit them.]

(OOC: Mind if I join this? I only just discovered we had RPing on the forums! If it's okay, I'll join on the side of the socialists, as my nation is leaning that way rather than the way of the communists, so it'll be easier to stay in character. :p

And I've RPed before, but don't mind me, I'm just here to have some fun. :) )

OOC: Anything more going on with this today?

Actually, Krendakov has about a billion or so population, so you guys have that.

So one day of NS is the same as one year so that means I could spend my defense budget once a day buying military gear right? a little help here.

I have no idea.
I was never really "in sync" with NS time.

OOC: This is a open thread for Beginners only. Keep the conversations civil, and if someone makes a mistake, do not insult them. Help them.
I am a beginner i started earlier today and i am totally confused on what to do could someone fill me in:)

I am a beginner i started earlier today and i am totally confused on what to do could someone fill me in:)

[ooc: Start off by reading the stickies. If you have any questions after that, there are plenty of people here willing to answer them, myself included.

Almost forgot. Welcome to Nationstates! ;) ]

To answer everyones questions: Ok, it doesn't matter what region you liver in, we all live right next to each other. It is MT/PMT, and one unkown nation sneds a spy claiming to be from another nation, and natoin B sends spy to nation C, the spy in Nation C said he/shes from Nation D, so there will be a bunch of mini-wars, eventually erupting into one huge war as people ask for allies help, also there are two diffrent alliances. One is more capitalist, the other is more socialist/communist.
This outline isn't exactly clear... but meh.

I'll join in on the side of the socialists for three reasons.

1) Mauvasia is more socialist itself (what with the 100% tax rate and everything).
2) My fellow Havenic state Krendakov is on the socialist side. ::high-fives::
3) They're a bit unbalanced right now and need support (my military is really disorganized and basically sucks though, so it'll still be even despite my larger population).

2) My fellow Havenic state Krendakov is on the socialist side. ::high-fives::

Go Haven! *hive fives back*

Hopefully some people I know will be signing up socialist soon... 'yay!' for convincing people to be my satellite states.

Most of my troops have BARs as their main weapons, and maybe 1/2 have AK-74s.

I have joined the war solely for the possiblity of killing mass amounts of people... SO I dont care how I fight with or against...

SO when are we starting?

SO when are we starting?

When we ahve 5 people on each side.

ok

The capitalist sidew needs either Krendakov or Mauvasia. Krendakov (the smaller of the two) has more population then the whole Capitalist side combined. I for one, would rather have Mauvasia, as we would lose about 160 million with Xiantias, and you still have another person, or two, to go. So, no more nations with over 600 million please.

Oh, and we start at post 75, to get everyone that has posted a chance to sign up for a side, get any information, et cetra, et cetera.

I think we Mauvasia should be the one to move as:
a)I have no private industry, he does; and
b) I have a couple of satellite states on the way so even though he's bigger, it'll balance out (if they can join).

[ooc: Does population really matter that much? Many wars on NS have ended in victory for the smaller nation through superior RPing. Plus I'm both crazy and bloodthirsty enough to take on the lot of you! For a few minutes, anyway. :p ]

Hehe...my population is 26 million, so it looks like a defensive war for me. :p

But I'll do my best for the Socialists!

Would you guys like a moderator or something? just someone to make OOC reminders, tactics advice, etc. I've been RPing since Nov 03 on NS as Hogsweat (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Hogsweat_deletion_controversy) and just recently as Questaria. I know my military stuff (2 years of research :x) so I could help you guys out on that sector.

ummm ive only been playin 4 a couple of days and i want to no where i get soldiers from

ummm ive only been playin 4 a couple of days and i want to no where i get soldiers from

[ooc: Soldiers can be recruited from your nation's population. A generally accepted number of soldiers is anything up to five percent of your population: anything more is frowned upon.

Once you have your soldiers, you can either equip them with real-world technology, technology that you have designed, or you can buy equipment from a storefront thread in this forum. For ground equipment, such as tanks and guns, I would personally recommend Kriegzimmer. For ships, try Portland Iron Works or Imperial Praetonian Shipyards. I'm not so sure about aircraft, but many storefronts sell a good selection for you to choose from. Just make sure you buy a good balance of equipment (many storefronts sell package deals to help with this).]

[ooc: Soldiers can be recruited from your nation's population. A generally accepted number of soldiers is anything up to five percent of your population: anything more is frowned upon.]

The closest any RL nation comes to that is N. Korea with about 4.4% of its population in the military. If you have national service, between 1 and 2% is good (depending on your policy on national service), if it's voluntary, I would say 0.5 to 1.5% is reasonable (depending on patriotism). Although you can use five if you plan on being an evil dictator that sacrifices the economy for defence (coughkimjongilcough).

And I'd advise accepting Questers'/Hogsweat(ia)'s offer.

OOC: I agree with Krendakov. Hogsweat is one of the most experienced players on II at the moment, and is an excellent RPer. I'd also like to volunteer my services as an assistant to Questers/ Hogsweat - I can advise and moderate etc and help y'all develop.

OOC: Sorry for the small hijack, but Krend, can you get on MSN?

[ooc: Soldiers can be recruited from your nation's population. A generally accepted number of soldiers is anything up to five percent of your population: anything more is frowned upon.

Once you have your soldiers, you can either equip them with real-world technology, technology that you have designed, or you can buy equipment from a storefront thread in this forum. For ground equipment, such as tanks and guns, I would personally recommend Kriegzimmer. For ships, try Portland Iron Works or Imperial Praetonian Shipyards. I'm not so sure about aircraft, but many storefronts sell a good selection for you to choose from. Just make sure you buy a good balance of equipment (many storefronts sell package deals to help with this).]
But how do i recruit them from the population and i tried buying tanks earlier but it only told price didnt let me buy

[ooc: Soldiers can be recruited from your nation's population. A generally accepted number of soldiers is anything up to five percent of your population: anything more is frowned upon.

Once you have your soldiers, you can either equip them with real-world technology, technology that you have designed, or you can buy equipment from a storefront thread in this forum. For ground equipment, such as tanks and guns, I would personally recommend Kriegzimmer. For ships, try Portland Iron Works or Imperial Praetonian Shipyards. I'm not so sure about aircraft, but many storefronts sell a good selection for you to choose from. Just make sure you buy a good balance of equipment (many storefronts sell package deals to help with this).]
But how do i recruit them from the population and i tried buying tanks earlier but it only told price didnt let me buy it just told the price

But how do i recruit them from the population and i tried buying tanks earlier but it only told price didnt let me buy it just told the price

You literally just say you did and use them - around 2-3% of your population is good for soldiers. And simply post in the threads and list what you want to buy politely.

So i say im using 2% of my population as soldiers and thats it?
Would you recomend anywhere to get weapons?

I would like to buy
100xPRA Model 100 SMG

So i say im using 2% of my population as soldiers and thats it?
Would you recomend anywhere to get weapons?

2-3% is fine, thats enough for when you're that small. Once you start growing rapidly, the percentage will stay the same but you'll have more, obviously. For weapons, I'll get you a few links. Here we are:

IPS: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469451 - For ships, the best there are on NS.

Kriegzimmer: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787 - Tanks and the like

OMASC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278248 - Airplanes and the like

That should do you. Post small orders, not too many items at first. Use the same ordering structure as everyone else who orders, and be polite - ie no smilies and bad spelling if you can help it. Once you post orders, I'll chip in and pay for some of your first orders to help you along. TG me or post here if you have anymore questions.

Thanks

So i say im using 2% of my population as soldiers and thats it?
Would you recomend anywhere to get weapons?

The best place to get weapons, I've found, is to design them yourself. But make them with flaws, and good points. If you RP MT, there is mainly going to be flaws, but if you RP FT you will have more good points.

The best place to get weapons, I've found, is to design them yourself. But make them with flaws, and good points. If you RP MT, there is mainly going to be flaws, but if you RP FT you will have more good points.

Designing weapons is complex and difficult when you're new. Buy pre-existing weapons for a while, then build your own once you're more knowledgable and know more RPers to get help from. I've been here for more than a year, and I only started designing my own PMT spaceships a few months ago.

I would like to buy
100xPRA Model 100 SMGIs this how you order?

Is this how you order?

yes, but on the right thread. Altusha, what do you say to my offer?

Is this how you order?

Indeed it is. Place it on the right thread, be polite -maybe add some RPing in if you can - ie "Admiral such-and-such wants this" but you don't have to.

I'll assume it is.
Does anyone like punk?
What thread should i go on?

I'll assume it is.
Does anyone like punk?

Those questions go in the General forum. International Incidents is for RPing only old boy.

Those questions go in the General forum. International Incidents is for RPing only old boy.
Sorry... But which thread do i go on?

Whichever thread sells the item. Say you want to buy a corvette from IPS, you go on the IPS thread and do so.

Tell me!!!

Sorry... But which thread do i go on?

No need to apologise, you're new to this.

This is General: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1227 - You ask about punk and anything non-RP related here

The other links I gave you in that post at the top of the page are where you ask for weapons, after selecting what you want in the thread itself. Here they are again:

IPS: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469451 - For ships, the best there are on NS.

Kriegzimmer: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787 - Tanks and the like

OMASC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=278248 - Airplanes and the like

That should do you. Post small orders, not too many items at first. Use the same ordering structure as everyone else who orders, and be polite - ie no smilies and bad spelling if you can help it. Once you post orders, I'll chip in and pay for some of your first orders to help you along. TG me or post here if you have anymore questions.

yes, but on the right thread. Altusha, what do you say to my offer?
Yeah, yeah, definately man.

Great. If you like, I can also use a small force to step in. I need some small-scale practice :x

Let's get our war on.

ok,I'll start.
If anyone wants to join in later on one of the sides, I'll just add them in.

IC: Fred ran down the streets, clutching the stolen documents. He looked back and fell. He scrambled up and turned a corner, running right into the arms of six mirines. He then felt a hit on the back of his head, and evrything was black.

He woke up,to being tortured, after awhile, he told the Mauvasians that he wsas from Krendakov, using his accent that he had trained on for six weeks. The answer was sufficient for the Mauvasians, and he was killed.

Could we start these in a new thread, otherwise It'll get pretty cluttered?
I recomend putting a [beginner] tag or something on it.

And try and fill that post out: describe the spy, the document, the marines, the torture, the death.

Yeah, I agree on both counts. Backstory is good too.

ok, here is the actuall thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10453400#post10453400

I probably ought to mention that:

a) I don't use torture; it's illegal in Mauvasia.
b) Mauvasia doesn't have Marines either (perhaps I should log on more often to explain things like this?)
c) That post should be more detailed; it should describe the spy arriving, stealing the documents, getting caught, etc.
d) I agree that we should start a new thread.

Also, what country is the spy really from? That's kind of unclear...

(I suppose hearing that the spy is from Krendakov would put me on the capitalist side, even if it isn't, so...)

Oh, and thanks Questers and Skinny. We could do with some help around here... ;)

I probably ought to mention that:

a) I don't use torture; it's illegal in Mauvasia.
b) Mauvasia doesn't have Marines either (perhaps I should log on more often to explain things like this?)
c) That post should be more detailed; it should describe the spy arriving, stealing the documents, getting caught, etc.
d) I agree that we should start a new thread.

Also, what country is the spy really from? That's kind of unclear...

(I suppose hearing that the spy is from Krendakov would put me on the capitalist side, even if it isn't, so...)

Oh, and thanks Questers and Skinny. We could do with some help around here... ;)

oh
well then. I for one, like to start out with poss like that.... don't explain the whole story in the first post.... Maybe I have something that will explain.

hey guys. mind if i join in? got kinda a big nation (well, 2.6 billion - large from MY point of veiw) but never role played on here before. well, at all really, but yeah ....

my country's kinda socialist/communist with the 100% income tax and the like but whatever.

Sure, we can always do with more people.

(Waiting for Krend to respond before I post on the main war thread.)

Hmmm...looks like you guys need some help here. How about I oocly play the benevolent, more experienced helper rper here, and ICly play the descreet, neutral nation who sends in a snall stealth asset to observe. That way I'm involved but not enough to really make a large difference. I'd be using my PMT nation in this. Actually, I've been looking for a good excuse to get back into MT/PMT.

Oh, also, I'd like to note this: even the most crude map of a nation is a powerful aid in lessening confusion and helping players to familiarize themselves with where they are. In other words, you may want to get a map up soon.