NationStates Jolt Archive

We are the Clans of the Seven Spin,
Greetings to you who may receive this message, wishes of long life and happiness.
It is our great pleasure to invite you to Pax II (coordinates included) in order to attend a confrence of trade and friendship with any who wish to attend are welcome to do so, provided of course that they dont start any trouble with the other representatives.
Pax II has a large parking station in orbit, landing your ships will not be required although you may use your own shuttles to descend to the surface if you wish.
Thank you for your time

The Kingdom of Cordotha will send a minister of the Crown to attend the conference.

The Armed Republic of Althusha will graciuosly accept an invatation to Pax II, but expect us to be armed. Heavily.

Upon hearing this invitation, Prime Minister Montir Perdamon dispatched Senator Adur Pilvona to Pax II. The following transmission was sent:

Greetings Clans of Seven Spin. I am Senator Adur Pilvona of the Kingdom of Astral Romia. I received your invitation and will be attending this conference. I look forward to seeing your world.

The senators shuttle entered FTL travel and soon after dropped into the space around the system that contains Pax II. Since the invitation specifically mentioned shuttles when inviting visitors to land directly on the surface, Adur sent out a transmission asking where to land on the surface for this conference.

We are very happy to accept your presence on Pax, although we must sadly decline Altusha's attendance unless they leave behind the majority of their weapons. This is to be a confrence of peace and any who violate that peace will be ejected, by force if needed.

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Senator Adur, a pad is being made ready for your shuttle, you will be received by a diplomatic team and escorted to the meeting place. Thank you for attending.

the Titian entered the pax II system with peaceful inentions. we send 1 representative of our pupet congress to repersemt us here.

As an appointed minister to his Royal Majesty, King Kassans III, and representing the interests of the Monarchy of Cordotha, I extend my greetings to the gracious hosts of the conferece here on the lovely world of Pax II. The Royal Government is pleased to learn that the hosts of this conference have enforced a strict policy of peaceful discussion and cooperation in rebuking the Altushan delegation for arriving en force. The Royal Government holds no animosity to said delegation, but must affirm its belief in the free and consenual dialogue and commerce between nations.

As a point of order may I request from our hosts a list of issues to be presented for discussion?

Adur's shuttle slid through the atmosphere of Pax II. It was a sleek silver cylinder tapered off at the end with a window in front out of which the for the pilot could see. A delta wing folded out of the bottom of the craft. The shuttle sent off several transmissions identifying itself as it descended and maneuvered towards the appropriate area on the planet's surface. Once it arrived at the landing zone, the shuttle lowered itself and came to a stop. After a minute or so, a ramp folded out from the bottom of the shuttle and Adur walked out, followed by three other men and a small, spherical droid that floated behind the group.

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Getting down to buisness if you all dont mind...)

The delegates were greeted by what appeared to be a camera on treads, a triple-jointed arm supporting A single 'eye'. The body was roughly ovoid and mounted two treads.
"Greetings gentlemen, I am (lengthy string of what sounds like static), but we know that this is difficult to pronounce for many flesh-beasts. For the sake of convinience you may refer to me as 'Adam'. I am at your service. There is much to discuss now. Do you require refreshment before we begin? I understand that many organic species are required to ingest copious amounts of liquid in order to maintain bodily fuctions."

When Adur exited his shuttle, he was disappointed to see a robot waiting for him. There should be someone here in person to greet someone of my importance, thought Adur. Adur waited for the robot to lead the group to whoever it was that they were meeting with, but to his irritation, the robot introduced itself. Come on, come on, I don't care.

The men were all wearing tuxedo suits with red ties. As the robot was uselessly talking to him, Adur looked around to check his surroundings. The robot finally caught his interest when it mentioned drinks.

“Ah, yes, get us some drinks,” ordered Adur. He looked back to affirm that the other men wanted drinks and turned back to the robot. “Oh, robot,” said Adur—he did not want to be embarrassed by calling a robot “Adam”—“Are we supposed to wait here for whoever is coming to meet us or are you bringing us to him?”

As the robot talked, the delegates were escorted through the neat grid of Central, the only city on Pax II, population 3 million or so.
Most of the buildings seemed to be constructed of the same blue-hued metal as the ships and stations in orbit and had an oily look to them. Most of these seemed to be houses of some kind. The groups destination appeared to the central tower of the city, a construction roughly a mile high, tapering to a point at the tip.
"Your drinks will arrive shortly, do you wish to specify a particular type? Please, Adam is preferable. Robot is a deragatory term derived, as we understand, from a word meaning 'slave'. You are to be escorted to the central tower where you will meet Sul Sulipund, one of the First."

“Champagne,” said Adur after the robot inquired as to what specifically he wanted to drink. The robot then began rambling on about topics that Adur was uninterested in. Something about robots being slaves on this planet or something like that. Adur really could not bother listening to what robots thought. Adur did manage to catch the name “Sul Sulipund” somewhere in there, which seemed important enough to remember.

"As you wish, sir."

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Im waiting for a few of the others to respond...)

Count Szogeny was displeased that he had been dispatched on this mission, despite his polite remarks for public consumption upon arrival at Pax II. While he would never dream of refusing an appointment by His Majesty, the King, to serve as a Minister of the Crown (albeit without portfolio), he felt with great indignation that a mission such as this to a planet to discuss banal matters was beneath him. He was the Lord of the Kazir Valley, one of the richest of the old estates, the Viscount d'Amberle, and a Royal Knight of the Order of the Falconet. All these things had guaranteed him a long and fruitful career as a senior diplomat in His Majesty's government. He scowled at the injustice of it all, watching the delegate from Astral Romia sip champagne with a sort of disdain only old aristocracy can manage. Still, a representative of another monarchical government might be a kindred spirit, and it was true that the aging Count was prone to look at everyone with disdain. He waited with decreasing patience for the first round of discussions to begin.

A ship Emerged into Real Space as it made the transition from T-Space. The Interceptor Destroyer, sent because of its speed, broadcast a message to the station.

This is The Swift Death. We were invited today by U-55012-250 and hurried here as fast as we could. We hope we are not too late.

Swift Death, you have landing permission. Please land at Pad 5 of Central Spaceport, you will be directed to the surface.

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"Gentlemen, please enter. Sul Sulipund will see you now." The robot wheeled its way through the main entrance to the large tower that dominated the city skyline.
The interior was much the same as the outside, smooth and made of the same blue-ish metal. The chamber was roughly circular, with six levels of semi-circular benches facing the other side of the chamber, these were well padded and quite comfortable.
The other side of the room, however, was almost totaly devoid of decoration except for Sul Sulipund.
[i]"Greetings to you, I am Sul Sulipund, the Third of the Sixth and...perhaps the term is mayor...of Central. I greet you in the name of the First and the Seven Spin Clans. We are most pleased to meet you." The voice that floated across the chamber was almost perfectly pronounced, although it did have a certain flatness that made it clear that a human was not doing the speaking.
Sulipund was, put bluntly, huge. He took up at least half of the chamber.
He was also a giant analog computer. Visible from the other side of the room, switches clicked and gears spun, there were a few visible digital components, mostly for things that were either impossible or very inconvinient to do with mechanical componenets. The machine was mounted on six legs, each at least the size of a mid-sized car, while manipulator arms at various points allowed Sulipund some interaction with his environment.
And, to top it off, most of this was done in brilliantly polished brasswork, there could be little doubt that if Sulipund was to venture out of this chamber the reflected sunlight would burd down most of the vegetation for several miles around.

Is this for real? thought Adur, who was insulted by what he perceived as his host’s lack of manners. Not only could they not greet us at our ship, but the leaders of this planet only care enough to have left a recording for us to listen to on this giant machine. The men behind Adur were looking quite uneasy.

“Robot,” he said sternly to the robot named Adam, “Where are those that I am supposed to be meeting with?”

The Swift Death silently landed at the requested pad. The Reactionary Armor adjusting the underside of the ship to support itself.

The delegate exited the ship and waited for instructions.

Adam sighed. He did not need to, but he did it anyway. "That is Sul Sulipund, he is the computer. Do you think that all life must be made of meat? Flesh-beasts such as yourself seem so...assured on that matter."

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The Balroggan delegate was escorted to the main tower, just in time to catch the end of Adam's lecture to the Romian.

Adur was incensed by what he was hearing. He thought about telling the robot that it was malfunctioning, but he knew that there was some truth to its words. This really was Sul Sulipund. In an attempt to steer the conversation away from the boring topic of the possibility of robot “life”, Adur asked, “Is there not a single person on this planet?”

"There are roughly 12 million people on this planet, but if you mean 'humans', then there are three that we are aware of. There are also three million cyborg life forms and several billion organic non-sentients. Now, do you wish to discuss what we came here to talk about, or are you going to stand there gawping?"

“Very well,” said Adur. He knew he would not enjoy himself, but he could not return to Seraphia empty handed. “Let us get to business.”

The diplomat from the Balrogga Empire smiled to himself as he heard the figures quoted. He wondered how long it would be before they realized the three humans counted the four of them. It meant Adam had been informed of their meeting aboard the Babylon Space Tower. If it comes to bear he would be prepared to show them.

“Yes, I agree. We need to get onto business. Who should start first?”

Sulipund, silent througout the exchange, spoke up again, "Excellent. Now that that is settled, we can continue. I am Sul Sulipund, as I have said, Third of Six and appointed ruler of Pax II. I represent the interests of the other Five and the Seven Spin Clans, the 'robots' as you say. To sum up our desires, we want resources. We need a...boost to start off the industry of the Clans, all that you see around you was constructed using only materials we brought with us and a very little we have been able to extract from the planet, and that is not much as it appears that somebody got here before us." There was a meaningful pause, "But in any case, we have determined that there are further resources below the mined-out levels. It will take some time to reach them though, so for now we must import. We have little...money, but we can offer manufactured products in exchange for raw materials and some assistance in setting up our industry."

“I would again like to point you to the ITH we have started. It would allow trade with a large number of nations. Once you get your industrial base established please feel free to consider this option.”

“As far as mining goes, there are resources available. We can assist you in setting up mining operations in the rest of your system. There are the other planets and the belts where resources can be gathered.”

We are very happy to accept your presence on Pax, although we must sadly decline Altusha's attendance unless they leave behind the majority of their weapons. This is to be a confrence of peace and any who violate that peace will be ejected, by force if needed.

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Senator Adur, a pad is being made ready for your shuttle, you will be received by a diplomatic team and escorted to the meeting place. Thank you for attending.

Message: It is? Damn, I thought we were going to kill something. Anyway, expect at least a corvette, if not a cruiser.

As the cruiser dropped out of slipspace, an alternate dimension, used for traveling great distances, it ejected three fighters. Two of them were drones, armed to the teeth with 4 graviton cannons, weapons usually reserved for bigger ships. The third, flying in the middle of the other two, carried a passanger in an armored suit, made of the Alchia alloy, being very strong. After about an hour of flying, the ships dropped to the ground on a planet. The person in the dropshipp pulled out an BR 55 battle rifle, and a M90 shotgun. No reason not to be cuatious. He walked through the wilderness into a city. In the city, he avoided people, preferring to travel back alleys and side streets, unitil he reached a building. Not bothering to go in throguh the front door, he jumped up a fire escape, and climbed through a window. He walked around until he heard a party. He jumped over the banister of the building, landing softly. He sighed upon sighing the party of delegates, and said to himself "God, I hate politicians." He walked over to the party, and hearing the robot talking, he walked over. "Altusha has a large wealth of resources, but not much industry. We would be ... happy to trade with you." He said, emotionallisly. He sighed. " We would like military resources in return for this venture." He felt eyes staring at him. "You're wondering how I came in. I went through the..... bac- back door. Yeah, that's it."

"I am afraid that our people currently have nothing to offer you," said Adur. He knew perfectly well that they did have actually a surplus of all natural resources mined in the many colony planets of the Kingdom, but a proposal to trade them to these robots would be quickly shot down. Adur was uncomfortable and unable to think of anything else he could say, or wanted to say for that matter.

The represenative from the Empire sighed as he "felt" the dishonesty in the other's words. He reached out with his mind, using his CyberPsi to contact their host.

Greetings, I am Known as Ga'Tarn. Would you like to enter into Dataspeech Mode?

He spoke using his voics as if nothing happened.

"The Empire wishes to assist you in any manner needed. We either have or have access to just about anything you might need. Do you have a list so we know if any of us can assist?"

"I am afraid that our people currently have nothing to offer you," said Adur. He knew perfectly well that they did have actually a surplus of all natural resources mined in the many colony planets of the Kingdom, but a proposal to trade them to these robots would be quickly shot down. Adur was uncomfortable and unable to think of anything else he could say, or wanted to say for that matter.

"Oh. Well, I guess we could trade some of our gravitational technology" he sighed. Being in his unit wasn't always the best. Oh well. His commander had ordered him to trade something or don't bother coming back. So he'ed trade technology. "I can bring up the schematics, or possibly even take you to one of my ships." He suggested. He thought Why can't they use diplomats for this? Then he remembered that he was the best diplomat they had. He had to forget his military training.

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"Raw materials in general would be appreciated, metals mostly, plastic compounds are useful as well. Thank you all for your offers, presently we are not interested in a hasty descision to join an organization, we prefer to...scout things out first.
What is this gravitational technology and what are its uses?"

"Raw materials in general would be appreciated, metals mostly, plastic compounds are useful as well. Thank you all for your offers, presently we are not interested in a hasty descision to join an organization, we prefer to...scout things out first.
What is this gravitational technology and what are its uses?"

"Well, my government mainly uses it for weapons, which fires a metal ball that has such density it produces condensed gravity, and when that ball hits a ship, it turns into a gravity well, which virtually crushes the ship with the titanic gravity forces. Shields don't apply, and counter-meaursures are useless against it, as the condensed gravity will crush anything that gets too close. So, it's virtually the perfect weapon. You can also use sensors to detect gravitic fluctuations in a star system.

"He is correct. Gravitational Technology in it's most basic form can do what he describes, but refinement of GT will yeild much more than that."

The represenative from the Empire cleared his throat.


Many consider the Empire to be at the forfront of both Gravitational and Dimensional Technologies. If you wish to take them up upon their offer, once you have understood his concepts we could help you upgrade.

"He is correct. Gravitational Technology in it's most basic form can do what he describes, but refinement of GT will yeild much more than that."

The represenative from the Empire cleared his throat.


Many consider the Empire to be at the forfront of both Gravitational and Dimensional Technologies. If you wish to take them up upon their offer, once you have understood his concepts we could help you upgrade.

"Well, we are just a developing nation. Also, we are intersested in expanding our Dimensional and Gravitational technologies, as well as others. Perhaps a Research treaty....?"

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The RED part is a telepathic communication directly to our host.

Unless you have a way to intercept the thoughts, you would not even know Dimensional technology was mentioned.

Just informing you because it looked like an accident. If you want to edit it out, I will make a different post here like it never happened.

But the way I worded the post, he could accept both our offers without infringing on either nation. It was the best way I could think of at the moment. I am interested in helping, not stealing all the contracts from others.

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The RED part is a telepathic communication directly to our host.

Unless you have a way to intercept the thoughts, you would not even know Dimensional technology was mentioned.

Just informing you because it looked like an accident. If you want to edit it out, I will make a different post here like it never happened.

But the way I worded the post, he could accept both our offers without infringing on either nation. It was the best way I could think of at the moment. I am interested in helping, not stealing all the contracts from others.

My character is telepathically sensitive, and although he cannot actually telepathically communicate. He can recieve and, it is not a contract, just a treaty, adn it will NOT interfere with you helping other nations, is all. Besides, we may have something interesting to help you with.....

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I am a pure Psi entity called a Ta'Nar inhabiting a clone body created to be used as "clothing" so it can interact with others. He was using his CyberPsi ability to directly communicate with out host. That is why they made the comment about 3 fleshies while there were four of us standing there. The Ta'Nar would have been able to detect your ability and would be sheilding the conversation from "listeners".

This is all secret information you would not know IC. Check out my site if you want to know more.

Sorry for hijacking your Thread for a moment.

Oh. Sorry. And FYI, it isn't much of an "ability" he can just hear it. Like hearing someone speak. Also, if you said the host was a machine, Ithought that evne with cybertronic brains, machines can't be telepathic?

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I based my Psionics on GURPS (Generic Universal Role Playing System) released by Steve Jackson Games (about 20 years ago). I used their Psionics because it is well described and material is available for any if they wanted to. There is an ability that allows the Psi to communicate with normal computers and other technological items called CyberPsi. Any sentient can develop the ability of Psionics. It doesn't matter the hardware involved, just the ability to project and control the energies of the Multiverse with one's mind. Almost all my AI has some sort of Psi ability, as well as the Childer I lead along the evolutionary path. I am actually hoping to lead these sentient machines along the same path. That is my goal and the reason I am here.

I'll let the slip pass for now. The Ta'Nar will tighten the communication and also check you out. Please post what he finds. A passive scan would most likely reviel his surface thoughts (your inside voice) and probably your emotions at that moment. Everyone is free to post their own.


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"Well, we are just a developing nation. Also, we are intersested in expanding our Dimensional and Gravitational technologies, as well as others. Perhaps a Research treaty....?"

Ga'Tarn was slightly startled at the words of the Altushan(?).

I must be slipping. I forgot to scan the others.

Ga'Tarn restricted his communication so it was a private one with their host. He also did a passive scan on the other guests.

OOC: Oh. sorry
Havn't been much of an Rper lately......

IC: He felt himslf being scanned by the being. Oh well. He had more importent things to worry about, such as the trade treaty. He ws impatient, waiting to get back unto the ship. The galaxy was full of much more things then a trade conference. He sighed, waiting for something exciting to happen. He perked up, and looked at the being, realizing that it wasn't human. "So, how would your government feel about the treaty I proposed?"

"First we should deal with the matters on our plate before we go back for seconds. It would be rude to ignore our hosts."

"This is quite interesting, perhaps we would like to obtain such technology, although at present we have little need for weapons as the current technology has proven quite satisfactory, but let us get back on the subject. This is not a 'steel penis' contest, although the nature of this remark is somewhat ironic considering the nature of the Clans, we should focus."
"We still require raw materials, resources to work with. If we must we will exploit the moons of this system, but we presently have little to work with and such a program will be slow to begin. Can either of you offer metals or other building materials?"

"Well,... We could probably offer you either titanium or Alchia. Alchia is an extremely dense substence, altough it is extremely rare. If you are low on funds I would suggest titanium, grade-A. Or, if you are extremely desperate, grade-B. Anything lower then grade-B would be unfit for service. Also, we have large forests on our homeworld, we could give you timber." He smiled at the thought of timber battleships.

Actually, our civilian traffic, such as private yachts and cargo vessels has used the KK Drive for centuries. It generates a singularity in front of the ship and pulls the vessel through Real Space and into Space Plus. We also set up a system of wormholes called the Intergalactic Trade Hub (ITH) using gravity to focus the entire system. These are just two examples how gravitational technology can be used in a peaceful manner.

As far as your question about building materials, it all depends upon what you need and your sources of power.

You can either set up mining operations in your moons and any debris belts that may be in the systems. The resources can be transferred to an assembly structure of your choice and location. It can be either in orbit or terrestrial based, it really doesn't matter. Each holds their own pros and cons that may affect the final cost.

If you have a powerful high energy source, you can use Replicator Technology. The key to remember about this tech, you need something to modify at the molecular level to obtain the desired material. You can use disintegrated material as this basis. It takes a lot of power to use some of the earlier models but as you improve this technology, the efficiengy will improve and you will figure out additional sources of basic resources. Some ships "scoop" this material out of clouds of interstellar material, some disintegrate raw materials such as mining skuff, industrial waste, or even captured enemy ships.

Another option is to join the ITH and establish trade routes with other nations who have whatever you might need in excess. I would suggest this as a last option because it could make you dependant upon the whims of other nations. I suggest you develop your own method and use the ITH to supliment your existing supplies.

What exactly would you require in materials?

He turned to the man. "What do you use dimensional technology for? My country opens a dimension, I'm not exactly sure how. It's a place called Slipspace. We can use it to travel very fast. Unfortuneately, our understanding isn't bery good. We usually end up several hundred kilometers from where we're supposed to be..." He drifts off, waiting for an answer.

"The Balrogga Empire uses DT for just about anything our Gravitational Tech doesn't cover. We used both DT and GT to construct the network of wormholes for the ITH."

"We use it as a defensive measure in our sheilds and in protecting entire systems by moving them out of the Physical Universe so they cannot be invaded in times of war."

"The sensors we are utilizing used both technologies, as well as our weapons, whicj I cannot speak much about. I am certain you understand why I cannot.

"We even use DT as a power supply."

"How do you use DT for an energy source?"

"I am sorry, I cannot tell you that without the proper security clearance. I do not want to divulge any secrets."

"I'll put out a guess here. Your tech taps into a dimension full of energy, uses some sort of energy collector to 'sponge' the energy up, and than brings it back into our dimension for use. Am I correct?"

"I can neither confirm nor deny your guess. We are being rude to our guests."



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Actually you are partially correct. we geneate power several different ways and shunt it into Space Minus.

According to Alan Dean Foster in his Commonwealth and Flinx series, Space Minus, or the 6th dimension, is a place where only energy exists. He uses it for instant transportation of communications. I started out my nation with a base of Foster and some stuff from the Night's Dawn Trilogy (Neurolinks,Serjents, Space Towers) and went my own direction from there.

Every system I occupy I have several hundred thousand solar collectors each capable of 1200 TW shunting power into this dimensional space. I also have a large system based upon the momentum of the moons, planets, stars, and other mobile stellar objects. It is very diffacult to explain but it works and the power is also shunted into that dimension so all I have to do is tap it when I need it.

The rep just doesn't have the clearance to tell state secrets, or even hint at them.

"I can neither confirm nor deny your guess. We are being rude to our guests."



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Actually you are partially correct. we geneate power several different ways and shunt it into Space Minus.

According to Alan Dean Foster in his Commonwealth and Flinx series, Space Minus, or the 6th dimension, is a place where only energy exists. He uses it for instant transportation of communications. I started out my nation with a base of Foster and some stuff from the Night's Dawn Trilogy (Neurolinks,Serjents, Space Towers) and went my own direction from there.

Every system I occupy I have several hundred thousand solar collectors each capable of 1200 TW shunting power into this dimensional space. I also have a large system based upon the momentum of the moons, planets, stars, and other mobile stellar objects. It is very diffacult to explain but it works and the power is also shunted into that dimension so all I have to do is tap it when I need it.

The rep just doesn't have the clearance to tell state secrets, or even hint at them.

"Yes, we are being rude." he turned to the SSC delegate. "What kind of meterials did you orignally use to build your ships?"