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I really want to give the chance for an international body to still work. Of corse with the NSUN that imposes laws on you, this would be very diffrent. Now I've tried this before, but gave up due to lack of intrests. But I'm willing to try again, and build an off-page forum. (because now I know how!) But Only if I spark enough intrest, wil lI bother to go build a page. So here is the charter.

(I mixed in the Original League Charter with the real U.N. Charter)

Preamble: The League shall promote international co-operation to achieve international peace and security. The obligations to not resort to war, by an open, just and honorable relations between nations,
By the firm establishment of the understandings of international law as the actual rule of conduct among Governments, and the maintenance of justice and respect for all treaty obligations in the dealings with international politics.

ARTICLE I: The Goals and the Principals of this League:
a. save succeeding generations from scourges of war (thats war, not A War, not THE war, just war)
b. uphold and reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights
c. establish respect for international law
d. practice good neighborliness, and tolerance, based on equal rights and self-determination of peoples.
e. avoid the use of armed force, except in common interest
f. serve as a center for harmonizing the actions of nations
g. achieve international cooperation in solving economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian problems, while encouraging respect for human rights and freedoms.

ARTICLE II: The League shall recognize a nations sovereignty, and shall not interfere unless international security, human rights, or anything else of distress is aroused to a sever point. (ex. Genocide)

ARTICLE III: The League shall be open to any and all nations.

ARTICLE IV: The League shall have a minor collaboration with the United Nations, but shall remain an independent body, not dominated by third parties.

ARTICLE V: All nations will have an equal say in the League, regardless of population size, Government Status, economy, religion or any other beliefs that are within the boundaries of law and order, civil and political freedoms.

ARTICLE VI: Resolutions are allowed by any nation, and will be voted on. Simple majority will be required proceeding a discussion panel by any and all nations. Resolutions may be over turned by a 2/3 agreement, followed by a majority vote.

ARTICLE VII: Regions shall also be allowed to have a delegate in the League

ARTICLE VIII: Nations that disregard the Covenant on all bases will result in expulsion from the League, military action, or to brought before a tribunal.

Any interests?

I would be interested, but sancions against internal war must be covered.

We'll join.

Regarding warfare sanctions, I belive that would be descussed in the General Assembly, once this is up and running.

That's right that would be a GA discussion

Well we signed up the first time you did this, so count us in

yeah, I'll go for it.

Here is my plans for the Bodies:

Genreal Assembly (GA)

Human Rights Committie (HRC)

Securtiy Council (SC)

World Youth Council (WYC)

International Criminal Court (ICC)

Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC)

International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

World Health Organization (WHO)

World Metorological Ogranization (WMO)

World Bank (WB)

International Peacekeeping and Peace Making Force (IPPF)

Count us in too.

great

As the founder of a NUMBER of successful alliances that have had long runs (a couple of which have been alive for over 3 real years), I can tell you that what you are trying to do is great, but structurally speaking, it cant be done unless you have a LOT of members and i doubt you'll be able to get that many, at least not any of the major NS super powers such as Credonia, Automagfreek, etc. That and the infrastructure is too cumbersome and theres too much redtape needed for such a small alliance. on top of that, none of your nations are that established within the international community so why should the world pay attention to it? Thats just some things you need to think about before going ahead with creating this alliance.

I would like to take part in this and help it get off the ground.

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To: The Leadership of the nation of
From: Galen Q. Leotardia, 2nd Emperor of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom


The Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom does not wish to join this alliance, we will respect any and all of the councils that you are to create with the formation of this alliance. This goes for all of those councils EXCEPT the International Criminal Court. We will try and convict felons as we please in our own nation and will not give up any of our civilians to any higher court for any reason, be it them trying to spread Socialism to other nations or if a nation attempts to blame them for something that they never did. Do not attempt to arrest any Shazbotdom National. We feel that there is no need for an "Inernational Criminal Court" and will not respect any judgement made by them nor any other court made by people who don't know the laws of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire.

What do you mean? i'm becomming an influental power in the international community.

come on you bums, with all the Anti-U.N. Propaganda you shove down peoples throats, this would surely be the thing for you.

LON again? The original League of Nations was a failure and one of the key reasons to the start of WW2, I dont want to be part of an even bigger failure.

Just because if failed in Real Life doesn't mean the RP LON would Fail.

The RL LoN failed due to both a lack of effective enforcement of anti-war provisions and due to the non-participation of some influential world powers.

As for this LoN, although we don't know much about the first problem, it's clear that this version suffers worse from the second problem. Without the support of the majority of major powers of NS, the LoN will fail, as it won't be regarded as powerful, important, or of real significance.

In short, we will not be joining the LoN, which we fear will be ineffective at best and detrimental to the cause of peace, by tarnishing the reputation of efforts to secure peace as ineffective and useless, at worst.

Official Statement from the Federation of Amazonian Beasts

The Federation will not join the proposed "League of Nations" and regards the entire idea as a spark to start the future of more violence. The Federation does not agree to the committees promoted by the League, nor will accept any legislation passed or recognize the authority of this collaboration. We will not, nor will other major powers, stand for the legislation of a foreign and different body to impose rules on our people. We bid you good day.

-The Federation of Amazonian Beasts Ministry of State

Kanami is becoming a very influental power in the world. There are far too many nations here, to be consider a few "Super Powers." If you let real life dictat RPing here, then you kind of drain the fun out of it.

AB if you didn't read carefully, this recognizes your national soveringty. So you can adpot resolutions that you like

Besides it would be no diffrent than joining any other alliance in the world.

Kanami is becoming a very influental power in the world. There are far too many nations here, to be consider a few "Super Powers." If you let real life dictat RPing here, then you kind of drain the fun out of it.

AB if you didn't read carefully, this recognizes your national soveringty. So you can adpot resolutions that you like
OOC: I read it, but I still disagree, I like full control over my nation and when I need to display my voice, I use force. Additionally, I am an intolerant nation.

Kurona is right, if you are willing to join smaller alliances that do who knows what, surely you would be willing to join a Global Alliance. With all the "I hate the U.N." statements, I thought of this. The NSUN respects no soverignty, and is a constant marry-go-round of repeals, and hollowed resolutions. Few nations get their rightfull say in the NSUN. in the L.N. you would have your equal say to the world, and a chance to get your resolution adopted, and acutally do good in the world. I find most of the NSUN resolutions are more like indvidual laws, and statutes more than world-improving Resolutions.

Official Statement from the Federation of Amazonian Beasts

The Federation will not join the proposed "League of Nations" and regards the entire idea as a spark to start the future of more violence.
I read it, but I still disagree, I like full control over my nation and when I need to display my voice, I use force. Additionally, I am an intolerant nation.

Now your contradicting your self. You say we are going to spark violence, but that is the thing you do when you want to be heard.

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To: The Leadership of the League of Nations
From: Galen Q. Leotardia, 2nd Emperor of the Pure Socialist Holy Empire of Shazbotdom

I don't really care about the creation of this League of nations, jus as long as they don't attempt to arrest a Shazbotdom National. If they do, then we will do whatever is in our power to free him, be it militarily or diplomatically.

Unless he's violating international law, he's fine. (Chances are you shouldnt tell me) And besides, we are both Socialist Nations we would likely see eye-to-eye on a lot of things

Now your contradicting your self. You say we are going to spark violence, but that is the thing you do when you want to be heard.
OOC: You misinterpretted me. What I'm saying is that others will no doubt take offence to when this council attempts to enact it's various international law and will spark violence, not that the council itself will use violence. While I'm happy with violence, many others aren't. Besides, ME sparking violence would have the violence start on my terms, not on someone else's timetable.

Yeah but seeing as we have a Soverignty policey, their should be no major confrantations. Again this isn't like the NSUN, this is more like the Real U.N. (Less coruppted) our goal is to create international harmony, and peace. Now if a nation steps out of line, yes conflict may errupt that's life. Obviously we would want to avoid war at all costs, but that doesn't mean armed conflict wouldn't come up every now and again. Some times force is the only way. When diplomacy failes, then you take action