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I've been wondering: Are there any Cold Wars going on in NS? Because if there are, I'd like to get involved in them somehow. If there aren't, we should get one started. I'm not talking about 'Nation A and Nation B are in a Cold War and nations DEF are on nation A's side and nations XYZ are on Nation B's side' sort of thing. I'm talking about a serious Cold War, in which the only things taht are arranged are the main superpowers in them. Hell, it doesn't even have to start with superpowers. We could have a Cold War between two small nations that drag big ones in. I think that would be very interesting, to say the least. Especially if it were FT!

Sounds cool. I am FT, I would like to join. I need to make my nation mor eevil for my civil war.

NS nations are already so militarized that I doubt a cold war would accomplish anything.

I'm the Head of a MT Military Alliance which is very tenuously held together. Cold War is very possible either with us or against us.

Cold War with me is possible, I'd enjoy it.

If I were to get in a Cold War with anyone, they would have to be around the same pop. size as me.

Fine *hmph* Shun me.... *cries and runs away*

It sees to me taht because I'm a nation full of Leftists that's smaller than 1 billion people and you're a huge dictatorship of more than 4 billions, I wouldn't stand a chance because dictators are paranoid, jumpy, assholish, and get along with everyone.

I'm fixing that Dictatorship part, I can't figure out what I did to do it...so....I'm staying with Socialist Democracy....cauyse I'm trying to fix the dictatorship part....

Still, it would be better if the Cold War erupted between nations of around the same political and military power.

Tanthan has a cold war with itself...its the only reason why my tech jumps suddenly and other times doesn't. Though you'd have to know me RL to figure out more about Tanthan....unless you like a lot of reading about my nation.

Though...my year is 3261 right now (from my planet's beginning) and we don't have a lot of outside connections. If you want a high-end tech FT nation (above star trek, star wars) to have a 'cold war' with, Tanthan would be a good one.

I might be intersted in a Cold War, but something i'm afraid of is the fact that my nation is not exactly that subtle. If some nation of eaqual size or smaller were threatening me, we would invade them, if they launched missiles, we would launch them back. If they happened to be bigger, we would go about the invasion in a larger way, and send more missles. Very single-minded people.

We are not the kind for the cloak-and-dagger of a Cold War.

We would be happy to fund weapons programs, ship aid, and generaly back up some other nation however, and if any serious Cold War RPs start up, I may join as a minor state, selling secrets and missiles to both sides, and other such things. (This would only work with smaller nations that acually require aid...)

Pananab is about 2007 MT and 2500 FT.

I might be intersted in a Cold War, but something i'm afraid of is the fact that my nation is not exactly that subtle. If some nation of eaqual size or smaller were threatening me, we would invade them, if they launched missiles, we would launch them back. If they happened to be bigger, we would go about the invasion in a larger way, and send more missles. Very single-minded people.

We are not the kind for the cloak-and-dagger of a Cold War.

We would be happy to fund weapons programs, ship aid, and generaly back up some other nation however, and if any serious Cold War RPs start up, I may join as a minor state, selling secrets and missiles to both sides, and other such things. (This would only work with smaller nations that acually require aid...)


You forget that sometimes nations are secretive and don't want to appear threatening or warmongering to other nations, more so if they are in an alliance of any type. When other people get involved nations react differently, as do people.

In a one on one conflict people will fight and usually go at each other with fists. When a gang fights each other it is usually not without having weapons or something to ensure their victory or win without losses. As this gets larger and larger and the threat becomes greater you use bigger and deadlier weapons until you have army vs army. Only at this point, when hundreds of thousands or millions are affected by this outcome and your standing with others in your environment do you find a need to do a cold war. A war of power without using force, just to intimidate the other into backing down.

The US never fired a shot on Russia, yet we won the cold war by bringing the weak (though cruelly run to appear larger) Russian economy to its knees. The Soviet Union fell through the cold war.

Also, Pananab is headed into a Civil War right now, so I couldn't start a Cold War, but Pananab would be a good place for tensions or for it to even start. And Pudu-This would be a good time for your Emperor to start thinking differently. It would be a good challenge for your nation to go from 'Kill or be killed' to 'Kill them without getting my hands dirty'.

Pananab is about 2007 MT and 2500 FT.

Risking a double post here....but let's see...

Pananab, what kind of tech do you have? I'll give you some stuff to compare against my BEST and average gear for conflicts.

Average gear for Elven crew:

Weapons: Pistol (non-laser), small ceremonial dagger that doubles as a weapon, officers carry a ceremonial sword that can double as a weapon.
Body Armor: none
Intelligence: Very high, specialized in technology and combat (Major level of intelligence in military (compared to modern day)
Speed: Semi-fast, the average soldier can move between 30-40 mph when running at a full sprint. Martial arts are seldom advanced.
Genetic/Mechanical Modifications: Very rare unless soldier was injured and needed a mechanical replacement.
Area of Weakness: One on one combat, enemies that do not act logically, afraid to admit weakness, easily provoked.
Area of Strength: Highly intelligent and cunning, can use many things as weapons, excels in any style of leadership, can perform many jobs equally (gunner, navigator), and highly adaptable.

Best Elven Commandos

Weapon: An array of powerful laser equipment, guns and hand to hand weapons.
Body Armor: Full exosuit heavy adaman armor
Intelligence: Extremely smart (think Predator smart)
Speed: Deadly fast, extremely good at combat in all forms and sprints at over 50 mph or faster.
Genetic/Mechanical Modifications: More machine then Elven, feels no pain and has enhanced eyes, smell and hearing. Depends on commando also.
Area of Weakness: EMP weapons, being in the open
Area of Strength: Perfect assassins and masters of combat

Ship tech level:

Generally under 1000 meters long, capital ships are known to be larger then standard Star Destroyers. Heavy basis on small fighters to do major damage.

Tnemada is the most powerful ship in the Tanthan Armada, at 120 km long, 20 km high and 40 km wide, production of reactor's max power is 44.5 YW.

Over 300,000,000 spaceships of varying design, tech level and power span the Tanthan Armada. Heavy basis on droid/unmanned ships on the outer levels of Empire. Ships are never mothballed, or destroyed, but are sent to outer regions for various work.

Only 2 ships in the Tanthan Armada are worthy of the title of Planet Killers.

Over 600,000 ships fall under the Star Destroyer (Executor-class) size, but are rarely ever seen.

Tanthan's superior weapons are never used in offensive attacks, only the inner systems ever spot a ship greater then 1 km in length. No enemy has ever seen the ships, so tactics against them are unheard of.

Tanthan ships are able to use phase-space (like hyperspace/bubble-space) to move at great speeds (similar to star wars speeds) when provided enough power. Ships in phase-space (bubble-space basically) have NO shields and are EXTREMELY fragile when compared to normal space standards.

Elven are aristocrats in Tanthan and control the entire Empire, they often glorify war and everything in their lives, morale can easily be killed by a sore defeat, but media can be used to save it, if the situation is dire. (Say the entire 1st fleet was wiped out without firing a shot)

Real-world tech level:

Around the year 2700 with the exceptions of FTL weapons and speeds.

From what I've seen, many of the cold wars have been the result of fairly, well-thought conflicts betweent the participants involved. That is, two nations didn't suddenly say, "Dude, let's have a cold war!"

Yes it takes time.... but conflict has to start with something...

Honestly, on NS we all are in a pretty much cold war like atmosphere. Nation's continue to buy and increase their militaries each day instead of keeping them constant. People continue to create new products to battle on another or to offset someone. NS will always be in a cold war-like state. We even have proxy wars if you know what I mean. ;)

Yes it takes time.... but conflict has to start with something...

So why not start off with something small such as a dispute over territory, resources, or whatever? I see a cold war as something that comes out of these factors, not as a reason in of itself. Countries don't just have a "cold war" for no reason.

So why not start off with something small such as a dispute over territory, resources, or whatever? I see a cold war as something that comes out of these factors, not as a reason in of itself. Countries don't just have a "cold war" for no reason.
It could start with me. A nation and a terrorist group are all ready starting to try to invoke a Civil War in my nation. One nation could back one faction and things just escelate from there, causing the conflict to spill over into the foreign policy of other nations in numerous incidents. Big things can start from little things, like World War One. Millions of young men were killed because of two bullets and a bomb.

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