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Looking for support

New Saharistan
05-02-2006, 04:02
To: Terror cells, Islamic Organisations
From: NOS
Re: Training and supplies

We, The Oppresed people of Saharistan/ The New order of Saharistan/ New Saharistan are a Conglomerate of Disfunctional factions of the Global Jihad, Red Brigade, and Saharistan Royal Guard. Our Mission is to Reunite Saharistan by any means possible.

Our People have been Disregarded as mere toys in a larger plot by Several Occupying nations, Mainly those of Mckagen, Halberguardia, Willink, and Leafanistan, to Destroy our nation's(or ex-nation's) culture, and religion.

With this message, we are looking for Organizations and terrorist cells willing to provide our relativly untrained ifadel with proper terror training and weapons, as the best we have right now are elderly rifles and weak homebuilt Explosives.

Our forces number in the several thousand based throught Regions of old Saharistan, lightly armed but willing to die to kill or Defeat the Zionist entitiees that have overrun our Holy Nation years ago. Civilians that have been brainwashed by the evil occupying nations shall be treated no differently.

Now to explain who i am. My name is Alzar Mushak. I was a leading member of the Saharistani Royal Guard during the Evil Imperialistic invasion of my Homeland. I have many young men willing to take back their country at any moment, i am ill, and being 68 years old have little i can help my followers with, except verbal support and outside assitance, please, Consider my plea, and help islam defeat the Zionist Devils.

http://static.flickr.com/25/43888915_59ade929a4_m.jpg
Signed, Alzar Mushak
McKagan
05-02-2006, 04:07
[OOC: Look, McKagan has became an expert at occupations. Saharistan has been occupied for the longest amount of time and, because of several of the tactics we use, any political hatred or opposition in the McKagan zone would have been discovered in the YEARS since the invasion. It's called infiltrating society. Having several thousand supporters just appear doesn't cut it for the McKagan zone. Perhaps you could do it in one of the zones that has a less offensive government, but the McKagan zone looks to covertly stamp things out, and with this much time, would have. Also, It's NATIONstates. Not TERRORCELLstates or REBELstates. You can't RP as an organization that doesn't have a home nation. You should use any of the nearly 20 nations you've created to support a rebel function.]
The Gate Builders
05-02-2006, 04:09
[Many nations are terrorist cells with no home state. Why, back when I was Ankhmet it started out as a corporation with no home.]
Southeastasia
05-02-2006, 04:09
OOC: Can't you simply revive Global Jihad Saharistan?
McKagan
05-02-2006, 04:14
[Many nations are terrorist cells with no home state. Why, back when I was Ankhmet it started out as a corporation with no home.]

[OOC: This is a game called NATIONStates. It's not fair to other players for their to be no possible way to attack another persons infrastructure when they can attack yours. He should have used one of his many, many puppets to simply revive Global Jihad. He still has to RP multiple things before I'll even recognize any of this as relating to McKagan Occupied Saharistan. For starters, he has to get fighters INTO our zone, because in the many years, as stated, anyone waiting around would be discovered. He also needs to get WEAPONS in; all of which needs to be RP'd. I'm NOT allowing him to just RP a jihad army into the middle of a nation that has been a peaceful colony for YEARS ICly and over 6 months in RL.]
Amestria
05-02-2006, 04:24
OOC: Just to point out, he has not really RPed an army into existence or even an attack (which as Mckagan stated would be a godmod), so far it is a message from a lone terrorist to the rest of the world asking for help and claiming he has thousands of followers (perfectly fine if it is mere propaganda). He also does not say where he is based (he could be based in Saharistan or somewhere else). More details are needed in background, characters, military assets, est, however... As there is OOC confusion.
McKagan
05-02-2006, 04:28
He HAS stated where he is based, and there there are (lightly) armed followers. That is inside Saharistan.


Our forces number in the several thousand based throught Regions of old Saharistan, lightly armed but willing to die to kill or Defeat the Zionist entitiees that have overrun our Holy Nation years ago. Civilians that have been brainwashed by the evil occupying nations shall be treated no differently.
Xeraph
05-02-2006, 04:36
[OOC: This is a game called NATIONStates. It's not fair to other players for their to be no possible way to attack another persons infrastructure when they can attack yours. He should have used one of his many, many puppets to simply revive Global Jihad. He still has to RP multiple things before I'll even recognize any of this as relating to McKagan Occupied Saharistan. For starters, he has to get fighters INTO our zone, because in the many years, as stated, anyone waiting around would be discovered. He also needs to get WEAPONS in; all of which needs to be RP'd. I'm NOT allowing him to just RP a jihad army into the middle of a nation that has been a peaceful colony for YEARS ICly and over 6 months in RL.]


ooc: I have always answered this problem two ways: we either attack the nation/nations harboring the terrorists, or we IGNORE them, if they insist on not having a homeland.
Willink
05-02-2006, 04:37
Wow man, do u ever give up ?? Im perfectly up to whooping you again.

And, Adressing Mckagen points, he said he has Elderly rifles and non-military Explosives, those wouldnt be that hard to find there, hell, in any country in RL. Also, He could have followers in Saharistan, which are unarmed but commited. But i want to know what Territory he is based in, mabey that would help us. (Im up for another Jihad Whooping Rp, so im not complaining :) )
Kravania
05-02-2006, 04:41
(OOC)

I'd like to point out that this 'New' Saharistan is NOT me!!!

I have NO intention now or in the future of going back to a Saharistani RP.

Notice some spelling mistakes in his post, I was never that crap with my English.

Somebody has just read a few of my posts and decided to come up with a mixed New Order (Torontia) and GJ (my many Arab nations) terror group.

Like I just told you, this was not posted by me.
McKagan
05-02-2006, 04:43
ooc: I have always answered this problem two ways: we either attack the nation/nations harboring the terrorists, or we IGNORE them, if they insist on not having a homeland.

[OOC: That's totally my issue here. McKagan goes on the policy and doctrine that EVERY terrorist cell has a base. So McKagan finds and goes after those bases. This organizations base cannot be in Saharistan or any of the other colonies this guy gave us: So i'm at a loss as to how he can make this work.]
McKagan
05-02-2006, 04:44
(OOC)

I'd like to point out that this 'New' Saharistan is NOT me!!!

I have NO intention now or in the future of going back to a Saharistani RP.

Notice some spelling mistakes in his post, I was never that crap with my English.

Somebody has just read a few of my posts and decided to come up with a mixed New Order (Torontia) and GJ (my many Arab nations) terror group.

Like I just told you, this was not posted by me.

Y'know, that DOES make sense. For starters, you didn't know how to put links in posts until like not too long ago, and second, you never use the bold HTML tag: I think.
Amestria
05-02-2006, 04:45
OOC:

He HAS stated where he is based, and there there are (lightly) armed followers. That is inside Saharistan.

As I have stated it could be propaganda… He should be asked to OOC clarify and perhaps IC post on his real forces.


(OOC)
I'd like to point out that this 'New' Saharistan is NOT me!!!


I was kind of tipped off by the fact he mentions a Sharistan royal family, I do not believe there was one... So one could write this IC off as a declaration from a lone nut.
Kravania
05-02-2006, 04:50
(OOC)

Your correct, I don't do links on my posts.

Besides, that old guy in the photo looks awful, I'd choose a more sinister looking guy.

And yes, Saharistan under Musab al Zarqawi was the 'People's Republic of Saharistan'.

Where the Royal Guard came from is beyond me.
McKagan
05-02-2006, 04:50
OOC: Does anyone else here draw a line between this incident and Frozopia? I somehow believe that he may have became pissed at me this evening and decided to "get back" at me. It fits his posting style, and spelling McKagan "Mckagen" is something he ALWAYS does. Futhermore, Frozopia had a "royal family..." The post also looks like the ones on the "Free Frozopia!" threads.

Food for thought.
Leafanistan
05-02-2006, 04:55
OOC: Just to point out, he has not really RPed an army into existence or even an attack (which as Mckagan stated would be a godmod), so far it is a message from a lone terrorist to the rest of the world asking for help and claiming he has thousands of followers (perfectly fine if it is mere propaganda). He also does not say where he is based (he could be based in Saharistan or somewhere else). More details are needed in background, characters, military assets, est, however... As there is OOC confusion.

OOC: As soon as he comes in the local Mafia will be extremely pissed off and rat him out to the government because while a warzone is profitable, the drug trade is far too lucrative (marijuana is legal over the age of 18 but cocaine and heroine aren't and its starting to become a problem).

Public Response

We have recieved an interesting report from a bugged channel from our Red Brigade, a organization calling itself New Saharistan has appeared and greatly amuses us with its lies and misconceptions about us and Leafanistani Saharistan.

We, The Oppresed people of Saharistan/ The New order of Saharistan/ New Saharistan are a Conglomerate of Disfunctional factions of the Global Jihad, Red Brigade, and Saharistan Royal Guard. Our Mission is to Reunite Saharistan by any means possible.

Shouldn't have picked organizations that have been infiltrated years ago. Reunion is impossible at this point due to the polarization and local governments refusing such attempts. Also, what is up with the Royal Guard that never existed.

Destroy our nation's(or ex-nation's) culture, and religion.

We are extremely tolerant of other nation's beliefs and culture. We have not done anything to actively and intentionally to destroy Saharistan's unique culture. Though our tolerant beliefs has created a boom in Nietzchism and mixed ethicities.

relativly untrained ifadel with proper terror training and weapons, as the best we have right now are elderly rifles and weak homebuilt Explosives.

You cannot have relatively untrained ifadel in our zone, we train everyone from age 4 onward in Academies. And our lax gun laws allow you to obtain far more destructive things. More propaganda from a senile old man.

Our forces number in the several thousand based throught Regions of old Saharistan, lightly armed but willing to die to kill or Defeat

Why did you concede killing us all? Usually that is your platform you madmen. Also with the love for Leafanistan and their rearing as children of High Father, many wouldn't support such a radical faction. I think Scientologists will outnumber you in our zone.

Zionist entitiees that have overrun our Holy Nation years ago.

We are in no way Zionist, meaning the support for the creation of the state of Israel for the jewish people. We think that the whole idea of a one ethnicity and one religion state is absolutely silly and wouldn't support its creation at all. We neither support the Religious Zionism as it is an extreme fringe movement amoung religious extremists that we try to distance ourselves from. We do not support Revisionist Zionism as we don't think too highly of the middle class because their properity is created on a foundation of bones. While Labour Zionism appeals to our socialist government, it is again founded on a religion, and supports kibbutzism which isolates people and creates unnecessery tension.
Your nation repeatedly violated the Holy Qu'ran via intolerence of the peoples of the book and unnecessery violence against them.

Civilians that have been brainwashed by the evil occupying nations shall be treated no differently.

Have you no respect for the Holy Qu'ran? No respect for your peers? Disturbing.

My name is Alzar Mushak. I was a leading member of the Saharistani Royal Guard during the Evil Imperialistic invasion of my Homeland

Your name was listed under the Saharistani military records we obtained in the occupation, and you were merely a corporal in a Tank Recovery Platoon. Though since its collapse I suppose you 'appropriated" this title as everyone else was killed in their fanatical attempt to defend itself or surrendered to our forces.
Where in the name of the celestial teapot did you get the Saharistani Royal Guard? Saharistan was a republican government before its collapse. There was never a royal family in recent Saharistani history.
The invasion was provoked by your illegal support of the Red Brigade and your murder of foreign nationals. The occupation was necessery due to rather indiscriminate bombing by McKagan.

i am ill, and being 68 years old

Our medical institutions are some of the best in the world, why not enter one, or perhaps even a pharmacy to buy drugs or consult an independent doctor.

Consider my plea, and help islam defeat the Zionist Devils.

Like we said, we are not Zionists and most likely we are against Zionism. Islam is supposed to respect those of the book, Christians and Jews, and your brand of Islam would repulse hallowed Allah. Numourous depictions of Allah and his prophet filled your public works and your former dictator didn't perform his daily prayers nor fast on the appointed holy days.

In short, peoples of the world, do not respect this senile, blasphemous man as a legitimate representation of the sentiments of the muslim population of the Leafanistani zone of Saharistan.

OOC: VVVV Amestria reads far too quickly for my ninja edit to occur.
Amestria
05-02-2006, 04:58
OOC: Leaf, there never was a royal guard. It never existed, so the man is claiming to be part of a group that never existed.
Southeastasia
05-02-2006, 05:05
Or it could be Willink's post. He said he needed someone to rp as a puppet to get something in Saharistan done so that he can get IC plots carried out. Perhaps he decided to do this himself....
Amestria
05-02-2006, 05:08
Or it could be Willink's post. He said he needed someone to rp as a puppet to get something in Saharistan done so that he can get IC plots carried out. Perhaps he decided to do this himself....

OOC: I think he would know of all people that Saharistan never had a Royal Guard...
Leafanistan
05-02-2006, 05:10
OOC: I think he would know of all people that Saharistan never had a Royal Guard...

OOC: I nearly forgot.

New Saharistan come back and respond to my Halberdgardian-esque destruction of your original post. ;)
Southeastasia
05-02-2006, 05:12
OOC: Propaganda purposes anyone Amestria?
Willink
05-02-2006, 05:42
Or it could be Willink's post. He said he needed someone to rp as a puppet to get something in Saharistan done so that he can get IC plots carried out. Perhaps he decided to do this himself....


No, it is not me, so here, let me explain:

Yes, i need to get somthing done in Saharistan, my last Rp was in the end of November, and i need something to do.

The person RPing as Saharistan/Everything is my 12 year old brother, he wants to try rping, so i set up a plot for him. Hes not online now b/c im on the pc and he is sleeping. By Royal guard he meant the Saharistani Revolutionary Militia(He read the Wiki article and a little bit of the actual thread) I helped him a little bit, with the Plan and stuff, but he will be the Rp'er.

Hope that Cleared things up.
Frozopia
05-02-2006, 14:48
OOC:
Hell Dont try to link this one to me. You think I would post at 3am GMT? Rping at 3 in the morning, erm I dont think so. I assume this is the old Saharistan's.
Willink
05-02-2006, 20:52
bump for replies, my bro will be on soon
New Saharistan
05-02-2006, 22:49
ooc- My guys area gonna be Based in willink saharistani territory, and about the royal guard thingy, i meant to say Revoloutionary Milita.


ic- Several men moved quietly through Port Arthur at night. They Are armed with several small explosive devices and sidearms. They grab a small boat from a public dock area and head out toward the naval tanker and Pull up along the side of the large ship. They begin to get to work, wiring RXD explosives, curled up in a roll, alongside the boiler room. The men then push quietly off back to the little public dock. They then proceed to toss extra explosives into the leasuire boats and yachts docked nearby, and finally walk into a large, but very empty hotel across the street. They sign in, and go up to their room on the 4th floor.

They open the window and hold a remote-like control out the window, pointing toward the docks. The leading man presses a small white button, and a small explosion erupts alongside the tanker, scorching the paint slightly, doing nothing but waking up civilians and putting a large dent in the side of the ship. He begins to panic, switches to the secondary channel, and pushes the white button franticaly. Several explosion occur on the private dock, sinking some small fishing boats and lighting a yacht on fire. Car alarms begin to go off, and Fire truck alarms are beginning to be head in the distance.


(Is this godmodding ?)