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This will be the brainstorming/planning thread for a Air or Surface launched missile, which can attack planes, Ships, and ground targets.

Suggestions and comments are encoraged, but the development is closed to other people wanting to join in the Developement.


Size: N/A

Materials- Osmium-Iridium-Solid Aerogel based metal, with Platinum and Nano-Metal(Absorbs Radar and IR pulses) filling layers. Armored Uranium tip with Armor Eating Nano Metals.

Fuel Cell- Experimental Electronic fuel cell, with Nanotube based material included.

Engine: Scramjet, in experimental stages, Hypothetical top speed mach 7.

Guidance system- C.E.P/IR/HEAT, Nano Miniturization

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OOC: TAG. and i'll aim you at the rapier (http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/aad/aad_rfsc.htm) system in UK service in case that helps.

OOC: TAG. and i'll aim you at the rapier (http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/aad/aad_rfsc.htm) system in UK service in case that helps.

I am not sure how much help that is, the Rapier is much different than our quick brainstorms.

fair enough. how about the Sea Dart (http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/1990.html) then. that page is poor, but its the best the MOD have to offer on it, i think.

fair enough. how about the Sea Dart (http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/1990.html) then. that page is poor, but its the best the MOD have to offer on it, i think.

Thanks your help, but we don't really need a RL missile - there aren't any that are going to be like ours anyway.

oh well. sorry to spam your thread a bit... [leaves]

oh well. sorry to spam your thread a bit... [leaves]

No problem.

@Willink: Any response from Omz?

Here is the first official information on the missile, still in the early development stages.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/4471/jointmissile9zj.png

Do you guys take criticism, or no?

Do you guys take criticism, or no?

From you? Sure.

The Grand Imperium of Risban's Imperial Ministry for Technology and Advancement, as well as the Scorpius Corporation, would be more than happy to throw an outrageous amount of funding to this project.

The Grand Imperium of Risban's Imperial Ministry for Technology and Advancement, as well as the Scorpius Corporation, would be more than happy to throw an outrageous amount of funding to this project.

On behalf of both our nations, I accept your generous offer to help funding our project.

-Mar'ki Ticron
CEO of DMI

OOC-Hold on Risban, im sending you a TG

Well, what kind of fuel cells are those, and why do you have them? As for the scramjet engine, what altitude and at what velocity will this missile be operating at? What's the point of the 'safe mode'on the EMP? You can release the pulse on command. Why have EMP at all? Especially on what seems like an armour piercing missile. The guidance computers can't be totally protected against the EMP blast since it has to have some sort of connection to whatever is guiding the computer, which can't be EMP hardened because it has to transmit and receive, and if it's hardened it won't be able to do that. Regardless, when is this EMP designed to be pulsed? Depending on the time my previous point is irrelevent. Why put the high explosive behind the EMP, guidance, et cetera? It will just ruin everything in front of it, although if the missile hits everything in front of it will be ruined anyways, so it's irrelevent - however, if the EMP is pulsed before the missile hits you have a good chance of rendering the high explosive worthless. And why the joystick control? This is most likely a beyond visual range missile, meaning the pilot or whatever is guiding it won't be able to see it, and if it's over the horizon radar won't be able to track it - only satellite, while you may not always have a satellite over the area to service the technology. That said, why not let it be a fire and forget? Ah, now that I see it has a maximum range of 35kms.

That said, I guess my argument can be irrelevent if the missile is for another purpose than I originally thought. What is the purpose of this missile?

Many of your questions will be answered when we actually finish the missile and put up the details on it. The pic was just a quick preliminiary thing - a jotting down of notes.

As for a couple of your questions, I will defer to Willink.

Well, what kind of fuel cells are those, and why do you have them? As for the scramjet engine, what altitude and at what velocity will this missile be operating at? What's the point of the 'safe mode'on the EMP? You can release the pulse on command. Why have EMP at all? Especially on what seems like an armour piercing missile. The guidance computers can't be totally protected against the EMP blast since it has to have some sort of connection to whatever is guiding the computer, which can't be EMP hardened because it has to transmit and receive, and if it's hardened it won't be able to do that. Regardless, when is this EMP designed to be pulsed? Depending on the time my previous point is irrelevent. Why put the high explosive behind the EMP, guidance, et cetera? It will just ruin everything in front of it, although if the missile hits everything in front of it will be ruined anyways, so it's irrelevent - however, if the EMP is pulsed before the missile hits you have a good chance of rendering the high explosive worthless. And why the joystick control? This is most likely a beyond visual range missile, meaning the pilot or whatever is guiding it won't be able to see it, and if it's over the horizon radar won't be able to track it - only satellite, while you may not always have a satellite over the area to service the technology. That said, why not let it be a fire and forget? Ah, now that I see it has a maximum range of 35kms.

That said, I guess my argument can be irrelevent if the missile is for another purpose than I originally thought. What is the purpose of this missile?

Purpose wise, its an Multi-use missile, can be fired at Ships, planes, and ground targets, to the EMP, it is Not fitted with EMP, its "Safe mode" is to protect against EMP, as for things for the fuel cell and such, i really havnt though about it yet. :)

Port Arthur military athority, southeastern Saharistan

DMG and Willink military experts were on hand for the first test of the experimental missile, the X-25B. A TU-160 Took off from the Airfield, and climbed to around 60,000 feet over the southeastern coast. The pilot switched over to the experiment weapon testbed launcher, and prepared to fire the first of its 4 missiles. He grabbed the joystick, and launched the first missile.

But, something went wrong. The missile spun wildly toward the ground, before exploding just above 20,000 feet. One of the fins had been built improperly and had became detached following the launch.

The plane landed, and had the other 3 missiles checked out, all seemed ready to fire. It took off again, and flew back up to 60,000 feet. He prepared the 2nd missile, and fired it off. It rocketed off at mach 2, before taking full effect, hitting a top speed of Mach 6.1 on its first "Complete" test launch, flying over Willink territory in a matter of minutes, before its destructive fuse was detonated, blowing it apart in the sky over Halbagardian territory to the north.

The 3rd missile was fired, reaching mach 6.4 before its fuel cell malfunctioned and exploded. The 4th missile reached a top speed of mach 6.6 before being detonated.

It had proven a useful test, and gave the designers ideas on what the Scramjet/Ramjet hybrid engines capacities were.

DMI Headquarters - the Capitol

The researchers and engineers working on the new missile system have had great success in their preliminary experiments. Slight malfunctions and misdesigns were being corrected with each new test that is completed.

When the missile is finished, it is expected to be phased in as the main missile for all DMI and DMG systems - though it will not be sold any time in the near future.

Per unit cost estimates are currently around two million dollars a missile, which makes it one of the most expensive common use missiles used; though the results prove that the cost is well worth it...

The Government of Artitsa will donate 250 Billion USD to this project, while Hyland-Nikolaas Industries, the main Arms Manufactorer has promised to contribute upto $1 Trillion USD plus specialists to the project.

Lost Hills Department of Defense
Office of Research and Development

Lost Hills R&D is very interested in supporting this project in anyway possible. We would be more than willing to either fund the development of send our own researchers to assist in any capacity. A preliminary estimate of $350 billion dollars yearly could be diverted to aid in development.

We would like to donate 30 billion USD to this project as it shows some promise in being a very good missle. The money is already sent but might there be any perks in donateing money?

To answer your question, no, not really any perks, exept your Countries name on the Credits and a discount on the price once it is exported, plus test and experiment reports.

the discount is enough. as that was what we were looking for.

[ Sounds kind of like what you'd use against an airplane with naval armor.

Or something. With a uranium tip, that'd slow it down a bit, and where do you stick the infrared trackers? Or...do you have them? If not, this probably won't be good against aircraft unless you spam up the airspace with a lot--and I mean a LOT of these. ]

OOC: Willink, I think we have enough funds now. Trillions of dollars for a researching a single missile is certainly enough.

Care to explain how these Armor Eating Nano Metals and Nanotube based fuel cell materials work?

Is this meant to be MT or PMT?

All will be explained in time - when we actually finish the missile and make a write up or something detailing its inner workings.

It is an early PMT missile (2015 roughly).

Well i think you need to up the date quite alot if you plan on having armour eating nanometal - no earlier than mid to late PMT

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Well i think you need to up the date quite alot if you plan on having armour eating nanometal - no earlier than mid to late PMT

Thats a nice opinion, but I think we'll keep it 2015 based on research.

Guys, we are spending trillions of dollars on the research for this missile...